OCLogs: 2016-12-31.log

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L7[00:28:02] <SomeGuyInATree> When loaded as a mod in dev, CCL-dev.jar works fine but when added as a dep. for my project, it throws this error - http://pastebin.com/F7JC65Q6 - any ideas? Works fine if I move the jar back..

L8[00:29:57] <mezz> SomeGuyInATree, ask in #ChickenBones

L9[00:30:30] <SomeGuyInATree> Thanks Mezz.

L10[00:33:01] <illy> is there a way to find out if a system is 64 or 32 bit on windows from command line?

L11[00:33:24] <mezz> windows, linux, mac?

L12[00:34:16] <illy> windows I know I can use uname -m on linux and mac I dont have to care about

L13[00:34:35] <mezz> wmic os get osarchitecture

L14[00:34:59] <illy> does that work back to xp?

L15[00:35:08] <mezz> no idea

L16[00:35:49] <mezz> I think so though

L17[00:35:56] <mezz> it's pretty old

L18[00:37:05] <illy> yea... might have to ask lex if he cares about xp

L19[00:37:49] <mezz> get a virtual machine and try?

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L22[00:38:29] <illy> could first I would have to "acquire" and iso

L23[00:38:39] <illy> an*

L24[00:38:48] <mezz> what are you up to anyway?

L25[00:42:02] <illy> the JavaWrapper right now im waiting to win10 to install on my vm so I can test a thing and I remembered Lex saying something about not wanting two binaries for linux and windows

L26[00:42:35] <mezz> I don't really know what the JavaWrapper is

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L28[00:43:37] <illy> this thing https://github.com/MinecraftForge/JavaWrapper

L29[00:44:25] <mezz> is that what's used for the forge installer?

L30[00:48:20] <illy> no the forge installer uses lauch4j iirc. It can be thou, in fact that's what im working right now its an alternative to the Mojang j8 launcher

L31[00:48:36] <illy> s/thou/though/

L32[00:48:53] <mezz> ok

L33[00:48:56] <mezz> interesting

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L45[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161231 mappings to Forge Maven.

L46[02:00:12] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20161231-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20161231" in build.gradle).

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L48[02:01:01] <mistamadd001> o7

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L67[03:55:16] <barteks2x> wtf git bash? bash: $'\302\203git': command not found

L68[04:15:51] <barteks2x> uh... any way to make a field with generic type that corresponds to this generic type from method: <T extends SomeClass & SomeInterface>?

L69[04:16:04] <Genuine> How about a new-years vent/discord/what-ever?

L70[04:22:34] <barteks2x> I had to create a new class that did just what I wanted: private static final class SpecialSet<T extends SomeClass & SomeInterface> implements Iterable<T>

L71[04:24:36] <barteks2x> and taht still doesn't do what I want

L72[04:25:49] <barteks2x> it does exactly what I want when I create raw type of that class

L73[04:31:52] <barteks2x> could be interesting what that type erases into

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L75[04:45:53] <barteks2x> this is the first time I saw the difference between SomeClass<Object> and raw type SomeObject...

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L79[04:58:04] <barteks2x> I managed to make hotswap fail with DCEVM - I changed supertyype of some class

L80[04:58:41] <Ordinastie> I was never able to make DCEVM work for minecraft :(

L81[04:58:56] <barteks2x> it just worked for me

L82[04:59:22] <barteks2x> I installed it, changed VM to use in IDEA and it just worked

L83[05:00:11] <barteks2x> that generic type is a bit confusing even to me... <T extends UIComponent<C> & IDragTickable<T, C>, C extends UIComponent<C>>

L84[05:01:48] <Ordinastie> why T and C are different ?

L85[05:02:15] <barteks2x> because javac complained otherwice with some mysterious compile errors

L86[05:02:35] <barteks2x> about completely unrelated methods in UIComponent

L87[05:04:02] <barteks2x> actually, I can use T here

L88[05:04:07] <barteks2x> I used ? instead there

L89[05:04:14] <barteks2x> (in UIComponent)

L90[05:04:18] <barteks2x> and then it complained

L91[05:05:24] <barteks2x> so that type got reduced to: <T extends UIComponent<T> & IDragTickable<T>>

L92[05:05:34] <barteks2x> still can't really define variable with this generic type

L93[05:06:29] <Ordinastie> no, you can't define fields that way

L94[05:06:49] <Ordinastie> but you can do what I did in UIScrollbar

L95[05:06:54] <Ordinastie> store is as T

L96[05:06:59] <barteks2x> but creating this type: private final class TickContainer<T extends UIComponent<T> & IDragTickable<T>> and using raw type of it worked

L97[05:07:19] <Ordinastie> and add a getDragTickable() and cast T to IDragTickable<T>

L98[05:07:36] <Ordinastie> raw type ?

L99[05:07:41] <Ordinastie> wy raw type ?

L100[05:08:03] <barteks2x> because this is the case where raw type does exactly what I want and there is no way to express it as generic type

L101[05:10:58] <Ordinastie> but then T has no point

L102[05:11:23] <barteks2x> https://gist.github.com/Barteks2x/248f8ab7dd9e11a46576166f02730536 this is the code

L103[05:12:08] <barteks2x> that generic type still allows javac to do type checking the way I want but it warns about rawtypes and unchecked types

L104[05:13:38] <Ordinastie> because it should be ExtraGui<T extends....>

L105[05:14:05] <barteks2x> in the end I would need to define it as variable somewhere

L106[05:14:38] <barteks2x> or wait, I will try that

L107[05:16:12] <Ordinastie> actually, scratch that

L108[05:16:29] <Ordinastie> why do you need T to extend UIComponent ?

L109[05:16:45] <barteks2x> so I can do something like t.isHovered()

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L111[05:17:01] <barteks2x> or t.isFocused()

L112[05:17:03] <Ordinastie> why isHovered and isFocused not part of IDragTickable ?

L113[05:17:17] <barteks2x> because it's part of UIComponent?

L114[05:17:27] <Ordinastie> doesn't matter

L115[05:17:59] <barteks2x> And I actually want all implementations of that interface to also extend UIComponent

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L117[05:18:50] <Ordinastie> the problem with your current system

L118[05:19:19] <Ordinastie> is that you can only have one type in your TickContainer

L119[05:19:26] <Ordinastie> and by extension, in your GUI

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L123[05:22:01] <barteks2x> well, that works. I still don't like that there are types you can specify in some places but not in other places in code

L124[05:27:03] <barteks2x> argh... I also need to give up on public interface IDragTickable<T extends UIComponent<T> & IDragTickable<T>>

L125[05:27:16] <Ordinastie> 2s

L126[05:27:20] <barteks2x> because then I can't make class that extends existing component and implements this interface

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L128[05:31:05] <Ordinastie> my take on it : https://gist.github.com/Ordinastie/5d59843e7e294b6e5b41b7047a9d9f76

L129[05:31:16] <ghz|afk> gah

L130[05:31:22] <ghz|afk> I keep thinking there's something wrong with my ear

L131[05:31:25] <ghz|afk> but there isn't

L132[05:31:30] <Ordinastie> it's your brain

L133[05:31:32] <ghz|afk> I'm really hearing the bubbles from my cocacola cup

L134[05:31:54] <Ordinastie> no, I still think it's your brain

L135[05:31:57] <Ordinastie> you should see a doctor

L136[05:32:03] <ghz|afk> I don't deny there's something wrong with my brain

L137[05:32:08] <ghz|afk> but that's not what I'm talking about right now

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L139[05:33:09] <barteks2x> that... is not supposed to be static

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L141[05:33:41] <barteks2x> and beforeClickHovered is supposed to be per-component

L142[05:34:21] <barteks2x> wait, you did it in even more weird way

L143[05:37:55] <Ordinastie> TickContainer is just a glorified Pair<T, bool>

L144[05:38:29] <barteks2x> I still don't like the set being static

L145[05:38:38] <barteks2x> what if there are 2 GUIs?

L146[05:38:56] <Ordinastie> it doesn't matter where the set is

L147[05:39:07] <Ordinastie> you can make it a field in you GUI if you prefer

L148[05:39:35] <Ordinastie> you'll have to call the forEach in update directly, that's all

L149[05:40:34] <Ordinastie> here, gist updated :p

L150[05:41:03] <Ordinastie> although I still find it odd that you'd need such logic

L151[05:41:15] <Ordinastie> with that bool

L153[05:43:40] <Ordinastie> I changed it to {year} now :p

L154[05:43:55] <Ordinastie> but now I need to find where it's defined that it puts the imports before

L155[05:43:57] <Ordinastie> I don't like that

L156[05:44:17] <barteks2x> I had to give up on IDragTickable<T extends UIComponent<T> & IDragTickable<T>> because it wouldn'tbe able to extend already existing scollbar that wat

L157[05:44:52] <barteks2x> I have headers above imports

L158[05:45:03] <barteks2x> when I don't forget to add them

L159[05:45:30] <Ordinastie> me too, but somehow, new imports are added above, like in the gist

L160[05:45:39] <barteks2x> blame eclipse

L161[05:45:54] <barteks2x> works fine in idea

L162[05:46:09] <Ordinastie> it worked fine before I updated to neon

L163[05:46:28] <Ordinastie> and it doesn't move the imports already there

L164[05:46:35] <barteks2x> my license plugin for gradlke would already scream there is no license header

L165[05:46:42] <Ordinastie> it's only when I make a new class, the first imports get placed above :s

L166[05:48:49] <barteks2x> now not inclusing your license header seems wrong to me, but adding it seems a bit pointless because of how simple the class is...

L167[05:51:26] <barteks2x> argh, the T extends UIComponent<T> makes things hard

L168[05:51:44] <barteks2x> because it doesn't really work for this type: UIOptionScrollbar extends UIScrollBar

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L170[05:54:59] <Yuri6037> Hey all I'm back

L171[05:55:12] <barteks2x> and using T extends UIComponent<?> won't work because <insert some weird reason because I don't understand that error message>

L172[05:55:46] <Yuri6037> I just compiled a first mod for 1.11 I can get a creative tab to register but no ways to make any Item/Block to register...

L173[05:55:54] <fry> class UIScrollBar<T extends UISctollbar<T>>

L174[05:56:13] <fry> final class UIOptionScrollbar extends UIScrollBar<UIOptionScrollbar>

L175[05:56:28] <fry> *class UIScrollBar<T extends UISctollbar<T>> extends UIComponent<T>

L176[05:56:39] <Yuri6037> Wait I forgot to call the registration method...

L177[05:56:44] <ghz|afk> Yuri6037: hey

L178[05:56:52] <ghz|afk> can you show your mod's code?

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L180[05:57:07] <barteks2x> UIComponent is defined as public abstract class UIComponent<T extends UIComponent<T>>, UIScrollbar is public class UIScrollBar extends UIComponent<UIScrollBar> and UIOptionScrollbar is public class UIOptionScrollbar extends UIScrollBar implements IDragTickable

L181[05:58:15] <fry> change UIScrollBar to be "class UIScrollBar<T extends UISctollbar<T>> extends UIComponent<T>"

L182[05:58:25] <barteks2x> UIScrollbar isn't my class

L183[05:58:32] <fry> oh well

L184[05:58:57] <fry> who's is it?

L185[05:59:00] <Yuri6037> Ok now it does something but not exactly what I wanted, it creates a model that looks like a block but with a large scale...

L186[05:59:22] <barteks2x> from malisiscore (that discussion should be on #malisis in the first place but is started here...)

L187[05:59:25] <Yuri6037> I just wanted a basic item to start with...

L188[05:59:36] <fry> Ordinastie: learn how to use F-bound properly :P

L189[05:59:47] <Yuri6037> Not a giant block...

L190[06:02:23] <Yuri6037> Oh wait it says the file does not exist...

L191[06:07:21] <Yuri6037> I still get FileNotFoundException for my .json

L192[06:08:15] <Ordinastie> and then you get shit like you have with UIContainer

L193[06:08:58] <Ordinastie> fry, when you instantiate a UIScrollbar, what generic do you use then ?

L194[06:09:07] <fry> UIScrollbar<UIScrollbar>

L195[06:09:11] <Yuri6037> Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: ancientaddinmod:models/item/dronelauncher.json

L196[06:09:28] <Ordinastie> but then it complains because generic UIScrollbar is raw

L197[06:10:54] <Ordinastie> actually, it complains it can't find the class

L198[06:11:12] <Ordinastie> ah no nvm

L199[06:11:21] <fry> it doesn't complain

L200[06:11:25] <Ordinastie> bound mismatch

L201[06:12:04] <Ordinastie> public class UIContainer<T extends UIContainer<T>> extends UIComponent<T>

L202[06:12:15] <Ordinastie> UIContainer<UIContainer> container = new UIContainer<>(null);

L203[06:12:24] <Yuri6037> And I have assets.ancientaddinmod.models.item package in my resources folder of IntelliJ

L204[06:12:24] <Ordinastie> Bound mismatch: The type UIContainer is not a valid substitute for the bounded parameter <T extends UIContainer<T>> of the type UIContainer<T>

L205[06:13:05] <Ordinastie> you can have UIContainer<?> container but meh

L206[06:17:07] <fry> https://gist.github.com/RainWarrior/67a065ba7fdcd78385983d0bf1b713ff

L207[06:17:41] <Ordinastie> yes

L208[06:17:45] <Ordinastie> if you have another layer

L209[06:17:55] <Ordinastie> I'm talking if you need to make a TestB

L210[06:18:25] <fry> TestB should be abstract, as should TestA

L211[06:18:31] <Ordinastie> it's not

L212[06:18:47] <fry> updated gist

L213[06:19:03] <Ordinastie> well, in my case, it's still not

L214[06:19:18] <fry> which is why your case is wrong :P

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L216[06:19:45] <fry> unless limiting T to always be UIScrollbar is fine

L217[06:19:46] <Ordinastie> aslo, not sure what you made static create()

L218[06:19:49] <fry> but I suspect it's not

L219[06:20:03] <Ordinastie> I have both cases

L220[06:20:11] <fry> to actually show it's being used

L221[06:20:42] <Ordinastie> you add restriction with abstract and final I don't have

L222[06:21:45] <Ordinastie> anyway, this will all be pointless when I'm done rewriting everything

L223[06:22:16] <fry> yes, I do actually add restriction, because not having it is wrong

L224[06:22:16] <Ordinastie> the whole purpose of the generics are for chaining setters and child classes

L225[06:22:31] <fry> you can say the same about generics in general - they make less code compile :D

L226[06:22:41] <Ordinastie> if I do make builders, I won't need them anymore

L227[06:23:10] <fry> but the builders themselves will have the same properties :P

L228[06:24:17] <Ordinastie> hum

L229[06:24:35] <Ordinastie> actually, probably

L230[06:24:47] <Ordinastie> I don't know how I'll handle the builders yet

L231[06:24:59] <Ordinastie> but I guess they will have the same issues

L232[06:26:10] <Ordinastie> and I need a decent way to design those builders

L233[06:26:30] <Ordinastie> like I really don't want to copy/paste all the setters for each type of component

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L240[06:46:32] <Yuri6037> If anyone has an idea

L241[06:48:24] <Yuri6037> I keep getting net.minecraftforge.client.model.ModelLoaderRegistry$LoaderException: Exception loading model ancientaddinmod:item/dronelauncher with loader VanillaLoader.INSTANCE, skipping

L242[06:48:42] <fry> post full log please

L243[06:49:08] <Yuri6037> full error ? Or full game log ?

L244[06:49:22] <fry> full game log

L245[06:49:31] <Ordinastie> please don't post it in chat *_*

L246[06:49:43] <Yuri6037> I know

L247[06:50:27] <Yuri6037> http://pastebin.com/7RXg7aib

L248[06:51:18] <Yuri6037> Please don't laugh about the GPU I know it's not great GPU but it runs GL...

L249[06:51:46] <fry> you have neither the "inventory" variant in the blockstate nor the item model in the models/item

L250[06:52:07] <Yuri6037> there's no blockstate it's not a block

L251[06:52:18] <fry> so, do you have the item model?

L252[06:52:43] <Ordinastie> and is everything lowercase ?

L253[06:52:47] <fry> ^

L254[06:52:56] <Yuri6037> yes of course inside resources/assets/ancientaddinmod/models/item/dronelauncher.json

L255[06:53:26] <Ordinastie> is resources on the classpath ?

L256[06:54:04] <Yuri6037> resource is a folder created by default by gradle which contains by default a file called mcmod.info

L257[06:54:30] <Yuri6037> I just added the assets folder

L258[06:54:59] <Yuri6037> Here is the item's model

L259[06:55:00] <Yuri6037> http://pastebin.com/Jt3AHvqE

L260[06:55:19] <Ordinastie> the content doesn't matter, it's not even finding it

L261[06:56:10] <Yuri6037> The thing is that I don't know why it's not finding it

L262[06:56:22] <Ordinastie> is it finding the mcmod.info ?

L263[06:56:24] <Yuri6037> The file is there I checked Windows explorer

L264[06:57:02] <Yuri6037> From the mod list in game no it's exactly like in 1.7.10 it never found mcmod it only finds this file in compiled versuion

L265[06:57:18] <Ordinastie> are you using eclipse ?

L266[06:57:36] <Yuri6037> No AndroidStudio which is an IntelliJ Comunity

L267[06:58:19] <gigaherz> is it general-purpose enough to work with non-android java projects?

L268[06:59:11] <Yuri6037> It should work the IDE is basically the same as IntelliJ it only adds features to quick design android screens$

L269[06:59:22] <Yuri6037> (activities like google calls them)

L270[06:59:52] <Yuri6037> And the game runs perfectly when I click the play button in IDE

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L272[07:00:12] <gigaherz> do you know what version of intellij is it using as a base?

L273[07:00:13] <fry> make sure your mod resources are actually copied into the build folder

L274[07:00:20] <gigaherz> because in older versions

L275[07:00:32] <gigaherz> you would need to add a line in your build.gradle

L276[07:00:38] <gigaherz> to coerce IDEA into copying the resources

L277[07:01:06] <Yuri6037> in build folder only two folders taskLogs and tmp

L278[07:01:20] <gigaherz> try adding

L279[07:01:21] <gigaherz> idea { module.inheritOutputDirs = true }

L280[07:01:25] <gigaherz> to your build.gradle

L281[07:01:50] <fry> or install modern idea :D

L282[07:02:01] <gigaherz> well if it works with that

L283[07:02:07] <gigaherz> then the suggestion would be to get a modern IDEA

L284[07:02:08] <gigaherz> ;P

L285[07:02:17] <gigaherz> if it does not, then we'd have to continue troubleshooting XD

L286[07:03:15] <fry> I'd prefer continuing troubleshooting on the modern idea :D

L287[07:04:43] <Yuri6037> I don't even know if it's modern or not

L288[07:05:18] <gigaherz> that's why I told you to add that line to your build.gradle

L289[07:05:20] <gigaherz> if you do that

L290[07:05:26] <gigaherz> and then click the blue refresh icon on the gradle panel

L291[07:05:28] <fry> help -> about

L292[07:05:29] <gigaherz> and it starts working

L293[07:05:32] <fry> should show the version

L294[07:05:37] <gigaherz> then it's an older IDEA ;P

L295[07:06:22] <Yuri6037> From what I see in website of Android it's an IntelliJ 13

L296[07:06:34] <Yuri6037> Android Studio 2.2.3

L297[07:06:56] <gigaherz> that's... ancient

L298[07:07:11] <gigaherz> get IDEA Community 2016.3.x ;P

L299[07:07:23] <gigaherz> yo ucna have them side by side

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L301[07:07:44] <Yuri6037> yeah and pump my windows partition

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L303[07:08:11] <Yuri6037> You know I only have 100 gb of the SSD for windows

L304[07:08:24] <fry> it's 2016, you can afford 1gb of free space :D

L305[07:08:41] <fry> also, if you can afford ssd, you can afford another hdd to go with it

L306[07:08:57] <fry> and if you can't - you shouldn't've gotten the ssd in the first place :D

L307[07:09:00] <gigaherz> not even 800mb

L308[07:09:00] <gigaherz> ;P

L309[07:09:11] <fry> eh, 1004mb for me :P

L310[07:09:24] <gigaherz> 790mb used in C:\Program Files (x86)\JetBrains\IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition 2016.3

L311[07:09:38] <Yuri6037> The thing is that for the third year in my programming school we are going to do some platform developmennt using VisualStudio and maybe even DX and I know the VS and DX SDK are HUGE !

L312[07:09:52] <gigaherz> yep

L313[07:09:58] <gigaherz> but it's not that bad

L314[07:10:00] <gigaherz> only 3-4gb

L315[07:10:15] <Ordinastie> compared to some 60gb games ><

L316[07:10:47] <gigaherz> the VS folder is 600mb, the windows SDK is 1gb

L317[07:10:52] <Yuri6037> Yeah I have no game in my windows partition (only MC in dev actualy I did not install the Launcher version...)

L318[07:10:55] <gigaherz> and that includes dx headers and libs

L319[07:11:00] <gigaherz> which don't need a separate SDK anymore

L320[07:11:13] <gigaherz> I have used windows on a 120gb SSD for a few years

L321[07:11:19] <gigaherz> it was ok

L322[07:11:22] <gigaherz> ;P

L323[07:11:35] <gigaherz> eventually wanted to have games in it

L324[07:11:39] <gigaherz> so I got a 500gb one as a replacement

L325[07:11:40] <Yuri6037> ok I guess it will support it

L326[07:12:46] <Yuri6037> approx 1 hour download !!

L327[07:13:27] <gigaherz> slow internet?

L328[07:14:53] <Yuri6037> Normaly I have a 1.1 Mb/s download speed

L329[07:15:03] <Ordinastie> so yes

L330[07:15:34] <Yuri6037> For me it's not so slow a 4 gb file can download in 10 minutes$

L331[07:15:38] <gigaherz> I have 300mbps fiber (32-33MB/s peak speed)

L332[07:15:58] <gigaherz> downloads are usually limited by the server ;P

L333[07:16:09] <Ordinastie> less and less

L334[07:16:13] <Yuri6037> But apparently the IntelliJ download server is stuck at 100kb/s

L335[07:16:18] <gigaherz> ah sucks

L336[07:16:25] <gigaherz> you could try again see if it chooses another mirror

L337[07:21:49] <Yuri6037> well there's only one download link

L338[07:22:10] <Yuri6037> So for the moment i'm stuck with Android studio

L339[07:22:39] <Yuri6037> How do I update the gradle file after adding idea { module.inheritOutputDirs = true }

L340[07:23:14] <gigaherz> blue refresh icon

L341[07:23:17] <gigaherz> on the gradle panel in idea

L342[07:23:35] <gigaherz> not the one on the main toolbar, that just refreshes the file list, not the gradle project

L343[07:23:45] <gigaherz> if that line doesn't work

L344[07:23:48] <gigaherz> since the intellij is so old

L345[07:23:53] <gigaherz> you could try the OLDER workaround

L346[07:23:54] <gigaherz> which was

L347[07:23:55] <gigaherz> sourceSets { main { output.resourcesDir = output.classesDir } }

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L350[07:28:23] <Yuri6037> let's hope it works with the old workarround

L351[07:29:11] <Yuri6037> Still same issue

L352[07:29:24] <gigaherz> how did you import the gradle project?

L353[07:29:34] <gigaherz> did you use idea's own import feature, or "gradlew idea"?

L354[07:29:44] <Yuri6037> well I used setupDecompWorkspace idea

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L356[07:29:53] <gigaherz> aha

L357[07:29:57] <gigaherz> as a last-resort thing

L358[07:30:00] <Yuri6037> it created a file that android studio found

L359[07:30:08] <gigaherz> can you try to open the build.gradle file

L360[07:30:12] <gigaherz> and let it re-import the project?

L361[07:30:23] <gigaherz> without using gradlew idea again afterward

L362[07:30:55] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/efa0f296275c42388b574c579b4fc420#configuring-forge-with-intellij-idea

L363[07:31:09] <gigaherz> this is how I import/create modding projects

L364[07:31:23] <gigaherz> it has worked flawlessly at least since idea 14

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L366[07:31:34] <gigaherz> I never used idea 13

L367[07:31:39] <gigaherz> so I don't know if it would work there

L368[07:31:40] <Yuri6037> Now I lost all run configs

L369[07:31:43] <gigaherz> yes

L370[07:31:47] <gigaherz> open the gradle panel

L371[07:31:53] <gigaherz> and doubleclick the "genIntellijRuns" task

L372[07:32:03] <gigaherz> inside the forgegradle folder

L373[07:32:19] <gigaherz> and if it complains about GradleStart

L374[07:32:28] <gigaherz> open the run config editor

L375[07:32:35] <gigaherz> and choose the "Use classpath of module"

L376[07:32:41] <gigaherz> to the one that has "_main" in the name

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L378[07:33:00] <Yuri6037> It done it

L379[07:33:06] <Yuri6037> now I reload the game

L380[07:34:01] <Yuri6037> exact same problem

L381[07:34:17] <Yuri6037> nothing changed

L382[07:34:20] <gigaherz> okay then I'm out of ideas

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L384[07:35:00] <Yuri6037> 30 minutes approx remaining for IntelliJ 2016

L385[07:36:27] <Yuri6037> What if I try runClient task

L386[07:37:15] <Yuri6037> Interisting now it seam to find assets

L387[07:37:44] <Yuri6037> So the run config is broken that's all as if I run directly runClient it works

L388[07:37:47] <Akkarin> Make sure you selected the file based import when you initially imported the gradle project

L389[07:37:56] <Akkarin> afaik gradle won't touch the directory based project files

L390[07:39:34] <gigaherz> it works just fine with directory-based import

L391[07:39:39] <gigaherz> so long as you let IDEA manage it

L392[07:40:19] <Yuri6037> that's weird it's just that it needs gradle runClient to work

L393[07:42:46] <Yuri6037> now I can run the client correctly that way but I lost all console output

L394[07:43:12] <Yuri6037> debug is gonna be HARD

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L396[07:44:13] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: how about debugClient?

L397[07:44:26] <gigaherz> it's not ideal, but you can connect a debugger to debugClient

L398[07:44:41] <Akkarin> gigaherz: Generating the run configurations won't work from gradle in that case though if I recall correctly. Unless gradle finally fixed their stuff to properly recognize the directory based layout

L399[07:45:14] <gigaherz> uhm

L400[07:45:21] <gigaherz> [14:30] (gigaherz): https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/efa0f296275c42388b574c579b4fc420#configuring-forge-with-intellij-idea

L401[07:45:24] <gigaherz> these steps

L402[07:45:25] <gigaherz> as i said

L403[07:45:30] <gigaherz> have worked just fine for a while

L404[07:45:38] <gigaherz> and i have NEVER used "gradlew idea"

L405[07:45:48] <gigaherz> by the time I started modding (this time)

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L407[07:46:04] <gigaherz> the suggested way to get started was already to use IDEA's gradle import

L408[07:46:07] <gigaherz> and not gradlew idea

L409[07:46:09] <Akkarin> well the gen runs task also pokes the project files

L410[07:46:23] <gigaherz> and it works just fine for directory-based projects.

L411[07:47:00] <Akkarin> I do recall having trouble with that on more than one occasion. That's why I'm mentioning it ;-)

L412[07:47:26] <gigaherz> note that, in idea 2016

L413[07:47:30] <Akkarin> Same here.

L414[07:47:31] <gigaherz> you do have to fix the runs afterward

L415[07:47:45] <gigaherz> because fg will set them to the root module

L416[07:47:49] <gigaherz> instead of projectname_main

L417[07:47:58] <Akkarin> Well you have to switch the module. I had the runs not end up in the right project before.

L418[07:48:06] <gigaherz> so you have to fix them after running genIntellijRuns

L419[07:48:08] <Akkarin> Since it generated a file based project while IntelliJ was hogging the directory

L420[07:48:11] <gigaherz> but the runs DO get generated

L421[07:48:25] <gigaherz> and that has always worked for me

L422[07:48:32] <Akkarin> Well congrats then

L423[07:48:33] <LatvianModder> gigaherz: any idea why FontRenderer doesnt use Tessellator?

L424[07:48:40] <gigaherz> nope

L425[07:48:46] <LatvianModder> FontRenderer#renderDefaultChar

L426[07:49:05] <Akkarin> Probably because nobody dares to touch it? :P

L427[07:49:35] <LatvianModder> Again, unless it really has a good reason - good job, mojang

L428[07:50:01] <Akkarin> Keep in mind that they slowly reworked the entire rendering system over notch's fixed pipeline beast

L429[07:50:14] <Ordinastie> and did a terrible job with it

L430[07:50:22] <LatvianModder> They had a lot of time to do it

L431[07:50:23] <Akkarin> as Mojang happens to do everything

L432[07:50:24] <Akkarin> so yeah

L433[07:50:42] <Akkarin> to be fair it would've been easier to just rewrite the entire rendering from scratch

L434[07:50:45] <LatvianModder> Lets email them right now - "Your code is bad. All of it. Pls fix"

L435[07:51:02] <Akkarin> Well it has been getting better slowly

L436[07:51:19] <Akkarin> But oh well ... still doing weird stuff left and right

L437[07:51:33] <LatvianModder> Only because they got people like Prof and Grum etc

L438[07:51:39] <Akkarin> yep xD

L439[07:51:54] <Yuri6037> First before making the font renderer they should make a better model format and create an editor for that

L440[07:52:10] <Akkarin> I still feel like rewriting the entire game from scratch when it wasn't such a behemoth would've been the better choice ... but oh well "this is going to take less time" was probably the argument there

L441[07:52:29] <Akkarin> Why not just use obj models and call it a day? ^^'

L442[07:52:42] <LatvianModder> Because thats not intended

L443[07:52:42] <Yuri6037> Yeah I would have done that in C++

L444[07:52:49] <LatvianModder> They did

L445[07:52:54] <LatvianModder> And its unmoddable

L446[07:53:14] <Akkarin> Well C++ doesn't really change much apart from more pain (e.g. more stuff to run into when you're not careful)

L447[07:53:28] <Akkarin> Java is fine in that regard ... nor is it actually slower. The memory usage is just much harder to get down

L448[07:53:30] <Yuri6037> Yeah but if it's for making a crap game that does not have anything to play with then I say no

L449[07:53:47] <LatvianModder> I prefer Java for that. Also easy to run on all platforms

L450[07:53:53] <Yuri6037> Because Win10 C++ MC is just a crap

L451[07:54:25] <Yuri6037> I would have liked a custom DLL loader...

L452[07:54:36] <Akkarin> Thing with languages these days is: There's pretty much no wrong language for something anymore. JIT and what not fixes the speed issue. At max your argument is "overloaded stdlib" but that's also one of the benefits

L453[07:54:37] <Akkarin> so yeah

L454[07:54:53] <Akkarin> Well DLLs are cool and what not but they don't give you the freedom we have atm

L455[07:55:32] <Yuri6037> DLLs would give you more freedom in native that what you have currently

L456[07:55:34] <Akkarin> You can literally modify whatever the hell you want. So unless you wanted to literally toss around raw opcodes you'd be kind of at the end of the road with such a system in a native compiled environment

L457[07:56:15] <Yuri6037> with native you can do plenty of things

L458[07:56:29] <Akkarin> Yes. But altering the program code of the game itself is not one of them

L459[07:56:42] <Akkarin> You're tied to the mercy of the company that has the keys to the source

L460[07:56:54] <Akkarin> Unless again ... you're into lots of pain and reading disassembly

L461[07:57:16] <Yuri6037> You can alter game's RAM while it's running

L462[07:57:21] <Akkarin> [14:56:55] <Akkarin> Unless again ... you're into lots of pain and reading disassembly

L463[07:57:40] <Akkarin> Literally what that means

L464[07:57:48] <Yuri6037> Oh sorry didn't see your last message

L465[07:58:11] <Akkarin> And believe me ... decompiled Java code is much more readable than disassembly :P

L466[07:58:27] <Yuri6037> I know I already touched assembly code

L467[07:58:28] <Akkarin> even though it doesn't feel like it at times

L468[07:58:53] <Akkarin> so yeah ... the modding community the way it exists today would be much slower if Minecraft was shipped as a native binary

L469[07:59:12] <Akkarin> nor would it change much apart from having much more bugs (they make stupid mistakes now how many would they make in C++)

L470[07:59:47] <Yuri6037> Yeah that's true... But Mojang should realy try to improve their JSON model system like for example suppirting rotation in every 3 axises

L471[07:59:51] <Akkarin> It wouldn't go faster either. It would use slightly less memory. Yes. But that's about it.

L472[08:00:58] <Yuri6037> I'm not sure if you would not go faster... Native is usualy a bit faster compared to java after it may depend on how you implement it too. MC should try to do threaded rendering that would speed things up

L473[08:01:43] <Akkarin> Since the introduction of JIT, Java should never be actually slower than any native compiled language. There's a few catches obviously but that's in such a small range that you can literally ignore it on a regular PC

L474[08:02:18] <Akkarin> It all boils down to how stupid the programmer is

L475[08:02:23] <Akkarin> and how smart the compiler is I guess

L476[08:02:33] <Akkarin> (kudos to gcc for being better at maths than most programmers)

L477[08:04:34] <Yuri6037> I remember 1.7.10 freezing every 10 seconds on big PC I7 3.7ghz 24GB RAM and GTX 650 ti DirectCU II 2GB VRAM

L478[08:05:33] <Akkarin> Freezing on a regular basis tends to be the GC and fixed when using a proper GC such as G1GC

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L480[08:05:59] <Akkarin> for extra speed points you may also want to toss Java some flags to optimize the process a little for the program it runs

L481[08:06:06] <Akkarin> cpw wrote a great reddit post on that the other day ;-)

L482[08:06:20] <Akkarin> (no ping intended buddy)

L483[08:06:41] <Yuri6037> After I can't tell you exactly what happened but it stopped after create a new save file on another HDD

L484[08:07:08] <Akkarin> well might as well be a memory leak contributing to the frequent gcing

L485[08:07:12] <Akkarin> #blameMojang

L486[08:07:49] <Yuri6037> I can be the HDD too : It was an IDE connected one it died in all cases

L487[08:07:58] <Glennox> Would anyone mind to explain how i can look into the vanilla code? how i could find out how for example the furnace block works?

L488[08:08:35] <Yuri6037> On 1.7.10 I remember a folder I could access with all the java but I can't find it anymore on 1.11

L489[08:08:36] <Akkarin> IntelliJ provides you with the code in the libraries tree under forgeSrc in your project view

L490[08:08:43] <Akkarin> you can browse that ;-)

L491[08:08:55] <Yuri6037> Hey INtelliJ 2016 done

L492[08:09:22] <Glennox> Hmm i am using eclipse i believe it should be kinda the same right?

L493[08:09:22] <Akkarin> Practically newer versions of IntelliJ also let you browse compiled stuff and decompile it with Fernflower but I was pretty sure that there's a source dep attached to that

L494[08:09:27] <Akkarin> uhh no clue

L495[08:09:39] <Akkarin> Eclipse is kinda cancer when it comes to usability :P

L496[08:09:41] <Yuri6037> Installing

L497[08:09:49] <Yuri6037> Should be quick as SSD

L498[08:10:18] <Glennox> Ok let me try to get intelliJ to work

L499[08:10:22] <Akkarin> lol

L500[08:10:26] <Akkarin> You certainly won't regret it

L501[08:10:29] <Yuri6037> I like how fast it installs... on regular HDD it was so slow

L502[08:11:18] <Glennox> I am just trying to get into modding minecraft so setting up was a pretty long seat especially when the mapping/version server went down

L503[08:11:42] <Akkarin> Well if you're just getting started I'd really recommend going for IntelliJ since it tends to be a lot more intuitive

L504[08:11:45] <Yuri6037> Only the download took LONG time for me

L505[08:12:06] <Yuri6037> Ok running IntelliJ 2016

L506[08:12:27] <Yuri6037> So I just have to reimport the gradle project directly right ?

L507[08:12:41] <gigaherz> yep, this is how I do it: https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/efa0f296275c42388b574c579b4fc420#configuring-forge-with-intellij-idea

L508[08:12:43] <gigaherz> ;P

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L510[08:13:14] <Akkarin> Thinking of which: Next time IntelliJ does weird things/doesn't recognize stuff try to invalidate caches and restart. Sometimes it gets a little confused ;-)

L511[08:13:29] <Yuri6037> Well now on this version it asks for import or open should I select import or open ?

L512[08:13:38] <Glennox> Only if i knew that before gigaherz :P

L513[08:13:57] <gigaherz> I paste that link literally anyone talks about setting up IDEA when i'm around

L514[08:13:57] <gigaherz> XD

L515[08:14:09] <Akkarin> I'd say Import since that will most likely open the gradle project and re-generate the project config

L516[08:14:11] <gigaherz> +whenever

L517[08:14:17] <Akkarin> aka clean start

L518[08:14:26] <gigaherz> it doesn't matter

L519[08:14:30] <gigaherz> if you "open" a build.gradle file

L520[08:14:32] <gigaherz> it === import

L521[08:14:40] <Yuri6037> should I check Use auto import ?

L522[08:14:46] <Akkarin> I'd not recommend that

L523[08:14:48] <Akkarin> tends to be slow as fuck

L524[08:14:55] <Akkarin> Well he probably selected the folder which is why it asks, gigaherz

L525[08:15:07] <gigaherz> no Yuri

L526[08:15:09] <Akkarin> since there's two recognized projects in there: a gradle build script and an IntelliJ project

L527[08:15:13] <gigaherz> leave auto-import unselected

L528[08:15:18] <gigaherz> leave "create directories for" unselected

L529[08:15:23] <gigaherz> leave "create separate module" selected

L530[08:15:32] <gigaherz> leave "use default gradle wrapper" selected

L531[08:15:36] <Akkarin> actually I think they fixed the memory leak regarding auto import so it's still just slow as hell ;-)

L532[08:15:46] <Akkarin> used to crash your IDE before that though

L533[08:16:10] <gigaherz> the only thing I recommend changing there

L534[08:16:14] <gigaherz> is, in Global gradle settings

L535[08:16:18] <Yuri6037> Invalid Gradle JDK configuration found

L536[08:16:22] <gigaherz> add -Xmx3G for VM options

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L539[08:16:47] <Akkarin> well default mdk comes with a gradle properties that fixes the heapsize now

L540[08:16:54] <gigaherz> does it?

L541[08:17:00] <Akkarin> Ye. Noticed the other day.

L542[08:17:04] <gigaherz> nice

L543[08:17:21] <Akkarin> So your forkbomb has the right amount of memory

L544[08:17:33] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: if you don't have an SDK selectable

L545[08:17:39] <gigaherz> you should add one ;P

L546[08:17:46] <Yuri6037> well I can't import anything it says JAVA_HOME does not exist

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L549[08:17:58] <gigaherz> do you have any other choice in the list?

L550[08:17:59] <gigaherz> if not

L551[08:18:03] <gigaherz> cancel that screen

L552[08:18:13] <gigaherz> on the main screen

L553[08:18:14] <Yuri6037> I canceled

L554[08:18:19] <gigaherz> there's a config menu at the bottom

L555[08:18:23] <gigaherz> with default project settings

L556[08:18:52] <gigaherz> configure -> project defaults -> project structure

L557[08:18:59] <gigaherz> in there, you can go to SDKs

L558[08:19:03] <gigaherz> and add your JDK to the list

L559[08:19:12] <Akkarin> Well ... usually the JDK dropdown lets you create a JDK but okay

L560[08:19:13] <Akkarin> lol

L561[08:19:50] <Yuri6037> OK I added 1.8 jdk

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L563[08:20:25] <Yuri6037> Thank you it's importing now

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L567[08:25:11] <Yuri6037> It says there are unindexed remote maven repository

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L569[08:26:37] <Yuri6037> files.minecraftforge.net/maven does Error when I try to update it

L570[08:27:43] <Yuri6037> Ok from Firefox it's Internal server error

L571[08:28:42] <gigaherz> ignore that message

L572[08:28:53] <gigaherz> there's no advantage in indexing the repositories

L573[08:29:03] <gigaherz> and in the case of forge, it won't even work

L574[08:29:06] <gigaherz> (directory can't be listed)

L575[08:29:25] <gigaherz> so just... dismiss the message and continue doing whatever you were doing ;P

L576[08:29:53] <Yuri6037> Ok but how do I get the gradle tab it's no longer there

L577[08:30:03] <gigaherz> at the bottom left

L578[08:30:07] <gigaherz> there's a little square icon

L579[08:30:09] <gigaherz> click once on it

L580[08:30:19] <gigaherz> if that doesn't show it

L581[08:30:22] <gigaherz> leave the mouse over that icon

L582[08:30:27] <gigaherz> and it will show a menu whereyou can choose gradle

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L584[08:31:56] <Yuri6037> Ok I do genIntelliJRuns

L585[08:33:18] <Yuri6037> I try running the client now

L586[08:35:09] <Yuri6037> Ok it works

L587[08:35:40] <Yuri6037> Thanks for all now I have a working modding env

L588[08:37:36] <Yuri6037> now let's try to create a 3D non animated model using the JSON structure

L589[08:40:55] <Yuri6037> Can we still use a png file name with upper case letters ?

L590[08:42:30] <gigaherz> can't you make it lowercase?

L591[08:42:48] <gigaherz> from experience, the answer is no

L592[08:42:53] <Yuri6037> Well that would ease import from old project

L593[08:42:55] <gigaherz> I usedto have an Energy.png in my code

L594[08:42:59] <gigaherz> had to rename it to energy.png

L595[08:43:32] <Yuri6037> In 1.7.10 it was working with a code Model

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L601[08:50:58] <Yuri6037> I have one little problem with UV the old model base does not have UVs directly per faces

L602[08:52:09] <gigaherz> hm?

L603[08:55:19] <Yuri6037> Yeah when I build a model using the old system you create a ModelRenderer using 3 variables and I guess the two last vars are texture coords

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L608[09:01:01] <Shambling> portablejim, what version of baubles did you compile angel ring to bauble against? It crashes on startup, so I'm thinking the release not beta version?

L609[09:01:14] <Shambling> errr nm, latest version is release

L610[09:01:40] <Yuri6037> And it requires faces ok that's maybe a bit more flexibility we get but I can't provide what it asks me...

L611[09:12:48] <Akkarin> mother of update queue :o

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L614[09:33:45] <Glennox> Hmm do i need this? The following repositories used in your gradle projects were not indexed yet:

L615[09:33:45] <Glennox> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven

L616[09:36:45] <Yuri6037> Just ignore that message

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L618[09:41:03] <Yuri6037> Ok I have another problem Forge 1.11 refuses 64x32 textures for models

L619[09:41:31] <Yuri6037> Problem: broken aspect ratio and not an animation

L620[09:42:07] <Yuri6037> It refuses to use that texture as a UV based texture for item model

L621[09:46:06] <Yuri6037> On internet it says it must be same with and same height and then why is the pig not same with and same height !?

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L624[09:48:04] <Yuri6037> Oh wow apparently the game thinks my item texture is a sprite like other items... It failed to recognize custom model

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L627[09:50:21] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: ALL item and block textures are added to the atlas

L628[09:50:28] <gigaherz> wait

L629[09:50:33] <gigaherz> you mean that it used builtin/generated

L630[09:50:41] <gigaherz> that usually means you used builtin/generated

L631[09:51:07] <Yuri6037> I don't know what you mean all I want is the model file to be 3D item composed of 3D boxes

L632[09:51:53] <Yuri6037> It's in all cases not rendering even if texture is right it's not rendering

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L634[09:52:39] <Yuri6037> I'll post the model json

L635[09:52:52] <Yuri6037> http://pastebin.com/sFG2RpAn

L636[09:53:26] <Yuri6037> It only contains the drone launcher's base box and it's already not able to render it ! It can't render a single box...

L637[09:54:20] <gigaherz> and how does it look like ingame?

L638[09:54:33] <Yuri6037> It does not render

L639[09:54:37] <gigaherz> first

L640[09:54:41] <gigaherz> remove the "parent" element

L641[09:54:46] <gigaherz> since you have "elements" and "display"

L642[09:54:51] <gigaherz> you aren't actually using it

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L644[09:56:52] <Yuri6037> it renders something now but binds the entire item atlas instead of only the part with the iron ingot

L645[09:57:31] <gigaherz> okay next problem

L646[09:57:32] <Yuri6037> I'll try with the original texture from 1.7.10

L647[09:57:37] <gigaherz> your UVs must be 0..16

L648[09:57:45] <gigaherz> even if your image is bigger

L649[09:58:00] <gigaherz> scale the numbers down to pretend it is 16x16

L650[09:58:18] <Yuri6037> But it refuses the texture

L651[09:58:26] <Yuri6037> it still refuses the item model texture

L652[09:58:33] <Yuri6037> Problem: broken aspect ratio and not an animation

L653[09:58:52] <gigaherz> what?

L654[09:59:01] <gigaherz> oh, textures have to be square

L655[09:59:05] <gigaherz> 16x16, 32x32, etc

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L657[09:59:14] <Yuri6037> No it will not work

L658[09:59:15] <gigaherz> if yours is 64x32, that won't be accepted into the atlas

L659[09:59:26] <Yuri6037> But it's not an atlas texture

L660[09:59:34] <gigaherz> it is.

L661[09:59:35] <gigaherz> all are.

L662[09:59:47] <gigaherz> anything referenced through item/block models is stitched into the atlas

L663[09:59:52] <gigaherz> you can't choose not to

L664[09:59:54] <gigaherz> it just is.

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L666[10:00:15] <Yuri6037> Ok then I can not use that because the texture in question works exactly like the pig texture

L667[10:00:23] <Yuri6037> or other texture like that

L668[10:00:29] <gigaherz> it can work

L669[10:00:32] <gigaherz> I did it for the ender chest

L670[10:00:52] <gigaherz> whic means I said a lie by mistake

L671[10:00:59] <gigaherz> [16:59] (gigaherz): oh, textures have to be square

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L673[10:01:03] <gigaherz> no, they have to be powers of two ;P

L674[10:01:15] <Yuri6037> 64x32 is power of 2

L675[10:01:21] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Enderthing/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/enderthing/models/block/ender_key_chest.json

L676[10:01:23] <gigaherz> this

L677[10:01:32] <gigaherz> is a model corresponding to the ender chest

L678[10:02:01] <Yuri6037> And the texture is not square ?

L679[10:02:22] <gigaherz> hmm it is!

L680[10:02:26] <gigaherz> happens to be 64x64

L681[10:02:26] <gigaherz> ;P

L682[10:02:38] <gigaherz> you should make yours square, then

L683[10:03:08] <Yuri6037> yes and will break everything in the model

L684[10:03:18] <gigaherz> no it won't

L685[10:03:21] <gigaherz> you just have to fix the UVs

L686[10:03:21] <gigaherz> ;P

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L689[10:03:26] <gigaherz> as I said

L690[10:03:39] <Yuri6037> cause if you say uv must be between 0 and 16 then it's broken cause the texture can not be 16x16

L691[10:03:39] <gigaherz> The coords have to be 16x16

L692[10:03:44] <gigaherz> nono

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L694[10:03:48] <gigaherz> the COORDS have to be 16x16

L695[10:03:51] <gigaherz> no matter the size ofthe texture

L696[10:04:01] <gigaherz> if your texture was 64x32

L697[10:04:04] <gigaherz> and your coord was 20

L698[10:04:09] <gigaherz> that'd be

L699[10:04:12] <gigaherz> 20 * 16 / 64

L700[10:04:17] <gigaherz> !!calc 20 * 16 / 64

L701[10:04:17] <gigaherz> gigaherz: Result(s): 5

L702[10:04:21] <gigaherz> so you'd write 5 instead

L703[10:04:36] <Yuri6037> Oh you mean it's translated

L704[10:04:52] <gigaherz> all the UV coords are internally 0..1

L705[10:04:55] <Yuri6037> the square texture is translated to be 16x16 in coords

L706[10:04:56] <gigaherz> but minecraft expects 0..16

L707[10:04:59] <gigaherz> and divides by 16

L708[10:05:06] <gigaherz> so

L709[10:05:09] <gigaherz> when you write 5

L710[10:05:12] <gigaherz> it will do 5/16

L711[10:05:22] <gigaherz> and use the value 0..1 to translate into the atlas sprite area

L712[10:05:24] <Yuri6037> Ok I see so if I have 64x64 then tex coords max is 0, 0 16, 16 ?

L713[10:05:27] <gigaherz> yes

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L715[10:05:40] <gigaherz> so if you ahve pixel 27

L716[10:05:43] <gigaherz> !!calc 27 * 16 / 64

L717[10:05:43] <gigaherz> gigaherz: Result(s): 6.75

L718[10:05:47] <Yuri6037> Like GL but instead of 0, 0 1, 1 it's 0, 0 16, 16

L719[10:05:48] <gigaherz> you have to write 6.75 into the file

L720[10:05:51] <gigaherz> yup

L721[10:06:00] <Yuri6037> OK right I get it

L722[10:06:26] <gigaherz> ok then

L723[10:06:27] <gigaherz> gotta go

L724[10:06:29] <gigaherz> be back in a bit

L725[10:06:29] <Yuri6037> Let's hope I have Photoshop for that task now

L726[10:06:33] <Yuri6037> ok bye

L727[10:06:36] <gigaherz> need some new year's eve dinner groceries

L728[10:06:53] <gigaherz> yo ucan expand the texture in mspaint or paint.net

L729[10:06:54] <gigaherz> ;P

L730[10:07:22] <Yuri6037> I only know photoshop

L731[10:07:37] <gigaherz> paint.net is easy ;P

L732[10:09:18] <Yuri6037> I have it that's ok

L733[10:10:07] <Yuri6037> Ok now it applies the correct texture

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L735[10:10:12] <Yuri6037> Just need to fix UVs

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L738[10:18:39] <Tatskaari> I’m still trying to update the players position smoothly. I’m currently doing it every tick but I’m looking for a way to update it every frame. Does anybody know where to start?

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L742[10:22:10] <gr8pefish> Tatskaari, I forget the details, as I never worked wit it myself, but I believe there might be a renderTick that you might want to look for.

L743[10:22:39] <Tatskaari> Okay yeah I was tempted to try and do it in the TESR but that seems hacky

L744[10:24:22] <gr8pefish> Update a player's position from the TESP? That seems weird, I'd send a packet to the player to tell them to update. Well depends how often you update actually, you might have to add a capability if you do it a lot.

L745[10:26:44] <Akkarin> interpolate all the things?

L746[10:26:49] <Tatskaari> I’m trying to create an elevator that moves blocks upwards. I’m currently doing it all server side moving the player and enities the same way a piston does.

L747[10:27:04] <Tatskaari> I want to now move the player smoothly between the positions the server gives each tick

L748[10:27:59] <Yuri6037> I think my best way is to use my NAS / research in all my HDDs for the techne model

L749[10:28:53] <Tatskaari> Akkarin: Where do I interpolate though? Is there a player tick that get’s called each from or something?

L750[10:29:27] <Akkarin> well you'd have to alter the local values in the render loop somewhere

L751[10:29:46] <Tatskaari> Seems like a hack to update the players position in the renderer.

L752[10:29:59] <Akkarin> so you get the extra precision from the extra calls in render. Technically you don't even need to interpolate. As long as the speed is equal overall it won't desync

L753[10:30:00] <Tatskaari> If that’s the only hood into the main game loop then I guess it will work

L754[10:30:04] <gr8pefish> Could look at other implementations: https://github.com/Thutmose/Thut-Elevators

L755[10:30:25] <Tatskaari> hook*

L756[10:30:35] <Akkarin> well ... you'll have to anyways. Ticks will always be bound to 20 per second. You want it to appear smooth though so you need to somehow bind it to the renderer or otherwise interpolate between the points originating in the ticks

L757[10:31:32] <Akkarin> I mean ... you could also redo every bit of rendering for that part ever

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L759[10:32:45] <Tatskaari> Yeah I was hoping there was a physics tick hook I can use

L760[10:33:18] <Tatskaari> Normally the way game loops work is: game logic tick -> physics tick -> render tick

L761[10:33:41] <Tatskaari> updating the positions of entities midway through rendering might cause some incosistancies

L762[10:33:56] <Tatskaari> I don’t know how minecraft works though

L763[10:34:16] <Tatskaari> I’ll try and figure out how Thut does it

L764[10:39:02] <Yuri6037> Oh yeah amazing I found my .tcn models

L765[10:39:10] <Akkarin> Probably your best bet. It's probably going to be hacky as hell anyways

L766[10:39:45] <Akkarin> I mean ... you do have 20 data points and try to make 60 (or more) out of it ... so you have to do it in rendering somewhere anyways or devise a method of figuring out how much you are supposed to add or subtract

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L769[10:40:47] <copygirl> Hey. Without getting too involved, because.. last time I did so I got pretty frustrated, is there any way to suggest something to go into Forge?

L770[10:41:37] <copygirl> Specifically, a canUnequip. I was hoping with 1.11 Mojang added something similar to support the binding curse.. but it's just hardcoded into the armor slot.

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L773[10:41:48] <Akkarin> GitHub issues include feature suggestions

L774[10:42:08] <copygirl> There apparently already is an isValidArmor on Item.

L775[10:42:27] <Tatskaari> Is there a way to slow down the tick rate to say 1 second? Might make it easier to see if my interpolations are working as expected

L776[10:42:37] <copygirl> Akkarin: I'm scared of touching that tbh.

L777[10:43:06] <Akkarin> Why? Issues are the best way of communicating changes and what not

L778[10:43:29] <copygirl> And I somehow doubt someone would pick up and provide a PR for an issue on there unless they're interested in having it themselves.

L779[10:43:45] <Akkarin> Usually the best way of getting something into an open source project is to raise an issue about it, discuss its pros and cons and ultimately submit a PR for it when everything is figured out

L780[10:43:50] <copygirl> I'm scared of the man.

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L783[10:44:25] <copygirl> I 100% agree with you.

L784[10:44:40] <Akkarin> you mean those who shall not be named without reason? There's no reason to be scared of them. They tend to be nice and reasonable people ;-)

L785[10:45:43] <copygirl> I made the exact opposite experience with them.

L786[10:45:53] <copygirl> Well. Can't say for the others.

L787[10:46:27] <Tatskaari> So you want a way to make a feature suggestion to the forge team without making a feature suggestion to the forge team?

L788[10:46:36] <Akkarin> lol

L789[10:47:26] <copygirl> Sorta looking for someone who thinks it's a good idea but isn't a wuss like me.

L790[10:47:54] <Tatskaari> What’s the idea?

L791[10:48:01] <Akkarin> Generally: Write up a proposal (e.g. an API method or type or whatever), write what it is used for and how it should work. Make sure it is useful for a bigger group and not just you (if its just useful for you, there's means to patch stuff in on the fly).

L792[10:48:11] <copygirl> Item.canUnequip to go along with Item.isValidArmor.

L793[10:48:14] <Akkarin> If you stick to those basic things there's no reason why you'd end up being denied

L794[10:48:27] <diesieben07> i think there was a PR for something like that already

L795[10:48:33] <copygirl> (Name open to discussion I guess.)

L796[10:48:46] <Akkarin> ^ oh yeah also check for existing PRs/similar issues

L797[10:49:37] <copygirl> I made one years ago.

L798[10:50:10] <copygirl> Can't find a PR / issue matching "equip" that's newer than that one.

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L800[10:56:44] <Yuri6037> I have a question : is the particle system with GL access still there on 1.11 ?

L801[10:57:37] <Yuri6037> I mean using Tesselator I could have some beam render and some other effects (like a stargate event horizon renderer)

L802[10:58:22] <Corosus> pretty sure its all the same as 1.10 but i havent checked, also particles are rendered in a batch so any immediate gl code in a particle renderer sorda breaks efficiency of it all

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L804[10:59:22] <Yuri6037> Yeah but for the kine of effect I want to do immediate GL is simpler but it's not a permanent render it will only render when required

L805[10:59:23] <Corosus> could always use world render event for any extra fancyness

L806[11:00:10] <Yuri6037> Ok I'm planing on a rewrite of LanteaCraft which crashes randomly the server and I want to fix it for 1.11

L807[11:00:43] <Yuri6037> That's why I need GL access only for the event horizon the rest can be done with OBJ files

L808[11:01:06] <Mimiru> Yuri any reason you don't want to help us do that..?

L809[11:01:11] <Mimiru> Yuri6037 *

L810[11:01:30] <Yuri6037> Help you do what ?

L811[11:01:38] <Corosus> cool, id advise against any immidiate gl in particles onRender, but if its at least not on all the time thats better, i personally use a clone of vanilla particle renderer using the forge world render event and it works quite well, so you could use that event to do extra stuff

L812[11:01:39] <Mimiru> Hi.. I'm one of the authors of LanteaCraft.

L813[11:01:54] <Corosus> vanilla fog needs to be processed though

L814[11:02:20] <Yuri6037> Oh ok, well I looked your code and I think a rewrite is better

L815[11:02:43] <Yuri6037> You should use OBJ for the stargate model itsel instead of procedural mesh generation

L816[11:03:16] <Yuri6037> And you have a ring OBJ file that could be used for the stargate

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L818[11:04:01] <Yuri6037> and for the moving effect I recommend using two models one model for moving ring and one model for stargate base itself

L819[11:04:13] <Yuri6037> A bit like the Stargate GMod Addon

L820[11:04:58] <Yuri6037> And a rewrite of the teleportation is required because the last time I tried it randomly crashed the server when trying to switch dimensions

L821[11:06:08] <Yuri6037> After I can help you rewrite everything but not right now... I'd like to update my AncientAddinMod which just adds a few stargate stuff like personal shield

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L824[11:07:19] <Yuri6037> Also today and tomorow are my last holidays... I'm in a programming school which just takes almost all my time

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L828[11:08:07] <Yuri6037> Currently I have a raycasting thing to finish for school and some basic easy C programming

L829[11:08:53] <Yuri6037> Raycast is easy but what they want is LONG (game menu, map loading, map design, textures, collisions, network...)

L830[11:08:59] <Glennox> which task should i use to run and test the game?

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L832[11:09:18] <Yuri6037> To run the game I just click the green play button

L833[11:10:15] <Glennox> Hmm its grayed out..

L834[11:10:19] <diesieben07> Glennox, you can use the runClient task if you insist on using gradle to launch the game. but it would be simpler to just create a launch config in your IDE to point at GradleStart

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L836[11:10:28] <diesieben07> as the main class

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L839[11:14:08] <Glennox> ok had to run genitellijRuns

L840[11:14:16] <Glennox> now it has a run profile ^^

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L842[11:15:04] <diesieben07> or that :)

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L845[11:24:04] <Tatskaari> Is there an easy way to get the time since last frame in a TESR?

L846[11:24:22] <Tatskaari> I thoought it would be one of the params but it desn’t appear to e

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L848[11:27:43] <diesieben07> what do you need it for?

L849[11:28:10] <williewillus> things should be in terms of ticks (and partial ticks)

L850[11:28:58] <diesieben07> yeah

L851[11:31:13] <Tatskaari> Minecraft.getMinecraft().prevFrameTime

L852[11:31:23] <Tatskaari> An animation in my renderer

L853[11:31:30] <williewillus> yes but animations should be synced to ticks

L854[11:31:33] <williewillus> not to frames

L855[11:31:45] <williewillus> what exactly are you trying to do?

L856[11:31:47] <Tatskaari> I want to move between the positions set in ticks smoothly

L857[11:31:54] <williewillus> that's literally what partial ticks is for

L858[11:32:11] <Tatskaari> Right, you siad about that but I couldn’t find anything on itl

L859[11:32:20] <diesieben07> you count ticks

L860[11:32:22] <diesieben07> 0, 1, 2, 3

L861[11:32:25] <diesieben07> that gives you 20 fps

L862[11:32:30] <diesieben07> then you just add the partial ticks

L863[11:32:34] <williewillus> the TESR method has a parameter called "partialTicks"

L864[11:32:41] <diesieben07> then you get 0, 0.123, 0.631, 1.123, etc.

L865[11:32:52] <diesieben07> and suddenly you have however many fps the renderer runs at

L866[11:33:41] <Tatskaari> I might need to update MCP or something but I have

L867[11:33:42] <Tatskaari> public void renderTileEntityAt(TileEntityBasicElevatorPart platformPiece, double xPos, double yPos, double zPos, float unknown, int unknown2) {

L868[11:33:55] <williewillus> how old is that??

L869[11:34:10] <williewillus> also it's the float "unknown"

L870[11:34:18] <Tatskaari> Ummmmm… not sure XD I guess I need to run the gradel task again?

L871[11:34:21] <williewillus> look at the superclass

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L873[11:34:27] <diesieben07> it won't name parameters in your classes

L874[11:34:38] <williewillus> no it's because whoever wrote it originally didn't know or didn't care what the last two params are

L875[11:34:43] <williewillus> first is partialTicks

L876[11:34:45] <williewillus> second is destroyStage

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L878[11:34:51] <Tatskaari> Oh thanks. :)

L879[11:35:02] <Tatskaari> So is partialticks a fraction of how far we are to the next tick?

L880[11:35:12] <diesieben07> exactly

L881[11:35:17] <Tatskaari> That’s useful!

L882[11:35:33] <diesieben07> without partial ticks you would get (in the renderer): 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3 etc

L883[11:35:35] <Yuri6037> I'm getting that error when using an exported json model from Techne converter : Caused by: com.google.gson.JsonParseException: 'from' specifier exceeds the allowed boundaries: Vector3f[6.0, -23.0, 12.0]

L884[11:35:36] <diesieben07> as ticks

L885[11:35:42] <diesieben07> but if you then add the partial ticks, you get the actual fractions

L886[11:36:07] <williewillus> Yuri6037: there's vanilla imposed limits on models from the json loader

L887[11:36:16] <williewillus> *model sizes

L888[11:37:18] <Yuri6037> So what solution do I have if the model exceeds the size of one block ?

L889[11:37:39] <Yuri6037> And what are the limits ?

L890[11:37:50] <diesieben07> use OBJ?

L891[11:38:04] <Yuri6037> I have no exporter for that

L892[11:38:37] <williewillus> -16 to 32 according to vanilla wiki

L893[11:38:41] <diesieben07> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-tools/2617440-tool-tabula-techne-to-obj-model-converter

L894[11:38:43] <williewillus> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Model#Block_models

L895[11:38:43] <Yuri6037> and if I use obj then I can no longer define rotation and translation of the item

L896[11:38:44] <diesieben07> not sure if that works

L897[11:38:50] <diesieben07> wat, of course you can

L898[11:38:53] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: you can

L899[11:38:55] <gigaherz> in a blockstates file

L900[11:39:01] <gigaherz> forge allows blockstates jsons for items

L901[11:39:20] <Yuri6037> It's not a block it's an item

L902[11:39:25] <Glennox> So how do you know which methods you can use? for example to spawn or place a block automaticly?

L903[11:39:27] <gigaherz> read my last sentence.

L904[11:39:40] <williewillus> Glennox: what do you mean automatically?

L905[11:39:46] <williewillus> and by spawn?

L906[11:40:08] <Glennox> There are is a method to check if a block is activated onBlockActivated

L907[11:40:08] <Yuri6037> a blockstate file is only for block and it's not a block it's an item

L908[11:40:19] <williewillus> no, you can use blockstate files for items

L909[11:40:21] <williewillus> the name is a bad one

L910[11:40:25] <williewillus> because forge extends it

L911[11:40:39] <williewillus> Glennox: that method is badly named, onBlockActivated is called when you right click the block

L912[11:40:56] <Yuri6037> and can a blockstate file render two models with one animated

L913[11:41:10] <williewillus> how does a file render a model :P

L914[11:41:38] <Yuri6037> I mean if it can reference two models

L915[11:41:52] <Glennox> Yeps thats what i wanted, but now i want to spawn a entity into the world.. but how do i know which method or function to use for that?

L916[11:41:53] <gigaherz> forge blockstates

L917[11:41:58] <gigaherz> which is an extension to vanilla blockstates

L918[11:42:04] <gigaherz> can use submodels

L919[11:42:04] <gigaherz> that is

L920[11:42:10] <gigaherz> models that are attached to the main model

L921[11:42:13] <gigaherz> through submodels

L922[11:42:13] <Tatskaari> williewillus: Thanks a lot that worked a treat!

L923[11:42:17] <gigaherz> you can make one of them animated

L924[11:42:18] <diesieben07> Glennox, World::spwanEntityInWorld

L925[11:42:19] <gigaherz> and another one fixed

L926[11:42:23] <diesieben07> *spawn

L927[11:42:44] <Glennox> diesieben07 but how do you know that? is there a list of methods?

L928[11:42:50] <williewillus> experience and IDE completions

L929[11:42:55] <diesieben07> list of methods = your IDE

L930[11:43:07] <Yuri6037> well the main model is parented to player thirdperson/firstperson view and the second is parented to main with offset and rotates arround an axis locally

L931[11:43:29] <Glennox> ive been scrolling for hours through the documentation already haha trying to find a overview

L932[11:44:02] <diesieben07> well, there is no such thing, really

L933[11:44:05] <williewillus> yeah...

L934[11:44:08] <diesieben07> at least nothing i know of

L935[11:44:09] <mezz> Glennox, read the code

L936[11:44:10] <williewillus> start with what you want to accomplish

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L938[11:44:14] <williewillus> and then use your IDE

L939[11:44:18] <williewillus> and this place

L940[11:44:24] <williewillus> preferably in that order

L941[11:44:35] <mezz> there are many open source projects that do things similar to what you'd like to do, they are a good starting point

L942[11:44:56] <williewillus> vanilla itself too (but there's bad examples in there sometimes)

L943[11:47:23] <gigaherz> Glennox: counterintuitively, writing mods is often harder than writing your own code from scratch ;P

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L945[11:47:40] <gigaherz> of course making a minecraft clone is no easy task

L946[11:47:55] <gigaherz> but neither is trying to coerce minecraft into doing what you want ;P

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L948[11:48:20] <gigaherz> and if you limit yourself to things that are copypasteable from tutorials, then it's kindof sad ;P

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L950[11:50:17] <Glennox> I cant agree more gigaherz

L951[11:51:50] <Yuri6037> How do I specify the blockstate file ?

L952[11:52:50] <gigaherz> you don't have to

L953[11:52:53] <gigaherz> whatever name you choose

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L955[11:52:57] <gigaherz> if there isn't an item model with that name

L956[11:53:02] <gigaherz> forge tries to load it from blockstates

L957[11:53:28] <diesieben07> other way around, isn't it? it first tries the blockstate, then the item model

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L959[11:56:49] <Yuri6037> I'm getting FileNotFoundException for the model now

L960[11:58:21] <Yuri6037> I get FileNotFound for models/item/dronelauncher.json (normal removed it) then FileNotFound for models/item/dronelauncher.obj.json (abnormal should be .obj not .obj.json)

L961[11:59:09] <Yuri6037> It apparently loads the blockstate but doesn't understand it's referencing an OBJ not a JSON

L962[11:59:10] <diesieben07> did you do ObjLoader.addDomain in preInit with your ModID?

L963[11:59:20] <Yuri6037> No

L964[11:59:28] <diesieben07> you need to

L965[11:59:38] <diesieben07> it's a stupid design choice, but maybe it has some reason. i don't see which though

L966[11:59:56] <Yuri6037> It's only to call client side I guess ?

L967[12:00:00] <diesieben07> ye

L968[12:00:33] <PaleoCrafter> I think fry has wanted to change it to not require that call for ages now, something was blocking him though :P

L969[12:01:36] <gigaherz> it's kindof pointless, IMO

L970[12:01:39] <gigaherz> becasue it's like

L971[12:01:59] <gigaherz> if(has domain) return endsWith(".obj"); else return false;

L972[12:02:23] <gigaherz> not like endsWith is such a heavy operation that requires careful optimization

L973[12:02:27] <Yuri6037> MUCH BETTER FINALLY It finally rendered the model !! Ok maybe it's white but it rendered something at least

L974[12:02:52] <Yuri6037> Now I'd like it to bind my modeldronelauncher.png

L975[12:03:20] <Yuri6037> How do I reference the texture inside the blockstate ?

L976[12:03:32] <gigaherz> does your model hava .mtl?

L977[12:03:35] <gigaherz> have a*

L978[12:03:47] <Yuri6037> .mtl ?

L979[12:03:52] <Yuri6037> What's that

L980[12:03:52] <gigaherz> you use a .obj model right?

L981[12:03:57] <Yuri6037> Yes

L982[12:04:06] <gigaherz> obj files have an accompanying .mtl file

L983[12:04:12] <gigaherz> that declares the textures and color and such

L984[12:04:15] <Yuri6037> Not this converter

L985[12:04:26] <Yuri6037> this converted did not generate any mtl

L986[12:04:29] <gigaherz> so inside the .obj file

L987[12:04:36] <gigaherz> are there any "usemtl" lines or similar?

L988[12:04:42] <gigaherz> I guess there won't be

L989[12:05:07] <Yuri6037> No nothing like that only vertices

L990[12:05:18] <gigaherz> okay then

L991[12:05:22] <gigaherz> at the top write like

L992[12:05:25] <Yuri6037> And UV too

L993[12:05:26] <gigaherz> mtllib something.mtl

L994[12:05:33] <gigaherz> and then

L995[12:05:37] <gigaherz> usemtl materialname

L996[12:05:46] <fry> iirc you can simply to "usemtl modid:name" and it'll work :P

L997[12:05:47] <gigaherz> then create the file "something.mtl"

L998[12:05:49] <fry> *do

L999[12:05:52] <gigaherz> you can?

L1000[12:06:07] <fry> yes, it was a bit annoying to always require an mtl

L1001[12:06:11] <fry> so I added that :P

L1002[12:06:14] <gigaherz> that's... nice

L1003[12:06:17] <gigaherz> and horribly ugly

L1004[12:06:19] <gigaherz> at the same time

L1005[12:06:21] <gigaherz> XD

L1006[12:06:27] <fry> how is it ugly? :P

L1007[12:06:37] <gigaherz> because there's no material library to take the material from

L1008[12:06:39] <fry> it's within the spec, mostly

L1009[12:06:41] <gigaherz> and the material isn't actually a material name

L1010[12:06:42] <gigaherz> XD

L1011[12:07:08] <fry> also, imho, less ugly than the whole stupid lack of uv direction in the spec

L1012[12:07:48] <Yuri6037> and what do I put in my mtl ?

L1013[12:08:00] <fry> again, you don't need an mtl :P

L1014[12:08:19] <Yuri6037> then what do I do to reference the PNG ?

L1015[12:08:28] <fry> 21:05 forge @fry | iirc you can simply to "usemtl modid:name" and it'll work :P

L1016[12:08:46] <Yuri6037> you mean name = texture file ?

L1017[12:08:59] <LexMobile> !gm func_188281_o

L1018[12:09:12] <PaleoCrafter> can you also put #whatever there and specify the texture via a variable? :P

L1019[12:09:23] <fry> should work, yes

L1020[12:09:28] <PaleoCrafter> nice

L1021[12:09:35] <fry> have to check

L1022[12:10:23] <fry> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/commit/8a11ad7a7a36493ac13a8078f5850c05325b5da3

L1023[12:10:27] <Yuri6037> "usemtl ancientaddinmod:modeldronelauncher" does exception parsing line

L1024[12:10:33] <fry> yup, don't need any mtl lines in the obj at all

L1025[12:10:53] <Yuri6037> then how do I reference texture ?

L1026[12:10:58] <fry> can just do "#OBJModel.Default.Texture.Name": "modid:texture" in the blockstate

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L1029[12:11:55] <PaleoCrafter> but it is only 7PM

L1030[12:11:57] <PaleoCrafter> :P

L1031[12:12:00] <fry> 9 :P

L1032[12:12:22] <gigaherz> meh 7pm, reminds me I should get started on dinner

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L1034[12:13:43] <Yuri6037> "#OBJModel.Default.Texture.Name": "ancientaddinmod:modeldronelauncher" in blockstate but item model is still white !

L1035[12:14:04] <Yuri6037> no errors in console

L1036[12:14:52] <Lisimba> Is the extended block state basically the block state as based on other things than just the 4 bits of metadata?

L1037[12:15:07] <diesieben07> no, that would be the acutal state

L1038[12:15:13] <Tatskaari> If a cleint moves an entity, say a chicken, will it update the server automatically or does that only happen for the plater entity?

L1039[12:15:25] <diesieben07> extended block state can contain *any* object, not just enumerable things like facings, ints, etc.

L1040[12:15:37] <diesieben07> it is only used to pass data on to custom IBakedModel implementations

L1041[12:16:06] <Lisimba> So stuff that's not an IProperty?

L1042[12:16:24] <gigaherz> in an ExtendedBlockState

L1043[12:16:28] <gigaherz> you still have the normal IProperties

L1044[12:16:35] <gigaherz> but on top of that, you can declare IUnlistedProperties

L1045[12:16:41] <gigaherz> which contain an arbitrary object instance

L1046[12:17:02] <gigaherz> the recommended approach is to use an object that holds a copy of the data you want

L1047[12:17:12] <gigaherz> since the actual tileentity/world may change while a frame is still rendering

L1048[12:17:34] <Zidane> gigaherz, with OBJModels, how do you specify the perspective information?

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L1050[12:17:52] <gigaherz> "transform": { ... }

L1051[12:17:55] <gigaherz> in the blockstates file

L1052[12:18:17] <gigaherz> note that it's not quite the same as a vanilla "display" block

L1053[12:18:17] <Yuri6037> Ok basically the "#OBJModel.Default.Texture.Name" is just ignored it changes absolutely nothing

L1054[12:18:45] <Yuri6037> I tried putting a texture that does not exist I get no errors no changes

L1055[12:20:05] <Zidane> gigaherz, can you link me where that transform value is read?

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L1057[12:23:51] <gigaherz> Zidane: ForgeBlockStateV1.java

L1058[12:23:58] <Zidane> ty sir

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L1060[12:30:44] <Yuri6037> Does anyone know why it does not work ?

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L1062[12:33:54] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: no idea, i just use .mtl files with the default texture in them

L1063[12:33:59] <gigaherz> and then replace the texture in my blockstates

L1064[12:34:27] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/enderrift/models/block/hedron.obj

L1065[12:34:33] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/enderrift/models/block/hedron.mtl

L1066[12:34:36] <gigaherz> example of one of my obj models

L1067[12:35:14] <gigaherz> with that, I'd use "#Main": "enderrift:something"

L1068[12:37:26] <howtonotwin> you need the blocks/ or items/ part of the texture path

L1069[12:37:38] <Yuri6037> what is block_kd ?

L1070[12:37:46] <Yuri6037> *map_kd

L1071[12:38:58] <gigaherz> Kd is the mtl command for "color, diffuse"

L1072[12:39:06] <gigaherz> map_Kd means "texturemap for diffuse color"

L1073[12:39:15] <howtonotwin> "relate color texture in file to diffuse reflectivity of material"

L1074[12:39:15] <gigaherz> and diffuse color is normal color that isn't reflective or shiny

L1075[12:39:26] <howtonotwin> i.e. this materials has this texture

L1076[12:39:30] <howtonotwin> *material

L1077[12:39:42] <howtonotwin> http://paulbourke.net/dataformats/mtl/

L1078[12:39:48] <gigaherz> which just means "use this texture to get the color of the object"

L1079[12:39:56] <gigaherz> so far as mc obj loading is concerned

L1080[12:40:01] <gigaherz> it's just "the texture".

L1081[12:40:18] <howtonotwin> also read this https://gist.github.com/howtonotwin/88fd07f419ae5c9560e9ae2615514018

L1082[12:43:40] <TechnicianLP> !gm func_175272_a

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L1084[12:51:57] <Necro> !latest 1.11.2

L1085[12:53:32] <TechnicianLP> where does minecraft handle mousewheel inputs?

L1086[12:54:13] <diesieben07> Minecraft::runTickMouse is one

L1087[12:54:21] <diesieben07> search for usages of Mouse.getEventDWheel

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L1091[12:58:31] <Zidane> gigaherz, can you link me to one of your forge blockstates that has the transform set?

L1092[12:58:42] <Zidane> (Just so I can see an example)

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L1097[13:05:25] <howtonotwin> Zidane: here's a more formal definition of transforms, if that helps: https://gist.github.com/RainWarrior/0618131f51b8d37b80a6

L1098[13:05:39] <Zidane> That helps a lot

L1099[13:05:41] <Zidane> Thanks :)

L1100[13:05:51] <howtonotwin> Line 30 onwards

L1101[13:05:53] <howtonotwin> yw

L1102[13:05:58] <gigaherz> Zidane: https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/elementsofpower/blockstates/magicRing.json

L1103[13:06:02] <Yuri6037> gigaherz: So now that I just used the same way as you the item ceased to render

L1104[13:06:16] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: errors in the console?

L1105[13:06:21] <Yuri6037> no

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L1107[13:06:38] <Yuri6037> just nothing on screen no longer any render

L1108[13:06:50] <gigaherz> can you pastebin/gist/link to your github?

L1109[13:07:06] <Yuri6037> pastebin what the model files ?

L1110[13:07:42] <gigaherz> the obj, mtl, and blockstates

L1111[13:07:49] <gigaherz> gist lets you paste more than one file nicely

L1112[13:08:18] <Yuri6037> OBJ http://pastebin.com/HrdLgcLL

L1113[13:08:46] <Yuri6037> MTL http://pastebin.com/gw5uHVv3

L1114[13:09:36] <Yuri6037> Blockstate http://pastebin.com/9A84i3Bf

L1115[13:10:28] <howtonotwin> path to texture in MTL is incomplete

L1116[13:10:40] <howtonotwin> it needs to have a blocks/ or an items/ before it

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L1118[13:11:02] <Yuri6037> no it's not the texture is at root of my textures folder

L1119[13:11:33] <howtonotwin> most things don't appreciate you breaking their expectations

L1120[13:11:40] <howtonotwin> can you try to put it in items/ and try again?

L1121[13:12:13] <howtonotwin> (though I don't know why having it in textures/ would break it)

L1122[13:13:27] <Yuri6037> nothing still the same

L1123[13:14:13] <howtonotwin> what happens if you remove the texture?

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L1125[13:15:34] <Yuri6037> The missing resources for domain ancientaddinmod are:

L1126[13:16:01] <Yuri6037> And the model gets the pink/black texture

L1127[13:16:05] <howtonotwin> so then the issue is probably the texture itself

L1128[13:16:38] <Yuri6037> It's PNG 64x64

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L1130[13:17:02] <howtonotwin> any transparent pixels?

L1131[13:17:06] <Yuri6037> or the problem is UV broken

L1132[13:17:21] <Yuri6037> Yeah actualy A LOT of transparent pixels

L1133[13:17:25] <howtonotwin> that's it

L1134[13:17:39] <howtonotwin> do you override getRenderLayer (or whatever) in your block?

L1135[13:17:47] <Yuri6037> No

L1136[13:17:53] <howtonotwin> It has to be one of CUTOUT, CUTOUT_MIPPED, or TRANSLUCENT

L1137[13:17:54] <Yuri6037> It's not a block it's an item

L1138[13:17:57] <howtonotwin> derp

L1139[13:17:59] <howtonotwin> nvm

L1140[13:18:18] <howtonotwin> it might be the transparency doing it

L1141[13:18:19] <Yuri6037> but by transparent I mean alpha 0

L1142[13:18:32] <howtonotwin> oh, so no partially transparent ones?

L1143[13:18:37] <Yuri6037> NO

L1144[13:18:47] <Yuri6037> Not any pixel is translucent

L1145[13:19:22] <Yuri6037> Only the background is transparent (alpha 0) and the object is alpha 255 on it

L1146[13:19:47] <howtonotwin> so probably the OBJ model loader is choking on your texture for some reason...

L1147[13:19:56] <howtonotwin> sadly I have no idea about its internals

L1148[13:19:59] <Yuri6037> Or UV is broken

L1149[13:19:59] <howtonotwin> you can ask fr.y

L1150[13:20:11] <howtonotwin> wouldn't you notice that in your modeller?

L1151[13:20:27] <howtonotwin> Say...

L1152[13:20:31] <Yuri6037> Well I did use a program to convert from .tcn to .obj

L1153[13:20:49] <howtonotwin> can you take a look at it in real 3d modeller?

L1154[13:20:51] <Yuri6037> Which by default does not generate a .mtl I was forced to do it myself

L1155[13:20:56] <howtonotwin> it might have borked something

L1156[13:21:46] <Wuppy> guys, happy new year <3

L1157[13:22:16] <howtonotwin> you too!

L1158[13:22:28] <howtonotwin> (I have 10 hrs to go but :P)

L1159[13:22:31] <killjoy1> Unless you're chinese

L1160[13:22:37] <Wuppy> it's still a few hours for me as well

L1161[13:22:45] <Wuppy> but I'll not be on my pc when it's actually new years

L1162[13:22:54] <killjoy1> Chinese new year is jan 28

L1163[13:24:26] <Yuri6037> According to Win10 Pro 3DBuilder it's perfectly aligned no UV error

L1164[13:24:48] <Yuri6037> So problem must be OBJLoader or texture loader

L1165[13:25:10] <howtonotwin> texture loader is pretty foolproof :P

L1166[13:25:20] <howtonotwin> so I guess it must be the former

L1167[13:25:40] <Yuri6037> The OBJ is right that's sure

L1168[13:25:56] <howtonotwin> hmm...

L1169[13:26:12] <howtonotwin> can you change the usemtl line to have your modid too?

L1170[13:26:31] <howtonotwin> I doubt that's it, though

L1171[13:26:33] <Yuri6037> yes I can I'll try

L1172[13:28:07] <Yuri6037> Now I get that in console : Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: ancientaddinmod:models/item/ancientaddinmod:dronelauncher.mtl

L1173[13:28:39] <howtonotwin> CTRL-Z

L1174[13:28:41] <howtonotwin> :P

L1175[13:28:53] <killjoy1> :?

L1176[13:28:53] <Yuri6037> I already reverted

L1177[13:29:14] <howtonotwin> Yeah, I'm stumped... fry, any ideas?

L1178[13:29:35] <killjoy1> do you mean to add your modid in there twice?

L1179[13:29:51] <howtonotwin> that's not the issue

L1180[13:30:01] <howtonotwin> that was me trying to debug the issue and making another issue

L1181[13:30:02] <howtonotwin> :P

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L1183[13:36:13] <Yuri6037> fry: Do you know why the OBJLoader does not work on my OBJ with a texture

L1184[13:40:26] <Zidane> gigaherz, https://gist.github.com/Zidane/41c65f64620afe2c50dc8574528a1ca6 if I don't want to perform any rotation for a facing=south, do I just specify it and keep it empty?

L1185[13:43:45] <howtonotwin> yes

L1186[13:43:58] <howtonotwin> also that blockstate won't work

L1187[13:44:05] <howtonotwin> it thinks you have three properties facing=...

L1188[13:44:07] <Zidane> What part did I get wrong?

L1189[13:44:15] <howtonotwin> and each has value "y"

L1190[13:44:31] <howtonotwin> you need facing { n {...}, s{...}, e{...}, w{...}}

L1191[13:44:36] <howtonotwin> formatted properly

L1192[13:44:37] <howtonotwin> :P

L1193[13:44:47] <howtonotwin> inside variants

L1194[13:45:39] <howtonotwin> (or, make each of the facing=... keys a list of a single object (f=n [{...}], f=s [{...}]), but that's no fun!)

L1195[13:49:38] <Yuri6037> I'll try edit the model and export it as JSON

L1196[13:49:52] <Yuri6037> I'll then try using a scale

L1197[13:50:28] <gigaherz> Zidane: onething to understand about blockstates files

L1198[13:50:36] <gigaherz> you may be tempted to think it worksl ike

L1199[13:50:56] <gigaherz> "I need "blah#facing=east", so let me open blah.json, and look for facing=east"

L1200[13:51:00] <gigaherz> that's not what happens

L1201[13:51:11] <Zidane> Well I'm having to auto-generate these

L1202[13:51:11] <gigaherz> on one side, mc computes a list of all the variant strings it will need

L1203[13:51:16] <gigaherz> and on a completely separate side

L1204[13:51:23] <gigaherz> it loads the referenced blockstates jsons

L1205[13:51:24] <Zidane> So just trying to get the formatting right

L1206[13:51:27] <gigaherz> and then

L1207[13:51:36] <gigaherz> it will try to match up the variant strings from the blocks/items

L1208[13:51:43] <gigaherz> to the variant strings from the loaded blockstates

L1209[13:51:49] <gigaherz> so in the blockstates json

L1210[13:51:54] <Yuri6037> that's strange that the model exceeds MC bounds as it's less than one block size

L1211[13:52:05] <Yuri6037> In Techne

L1212[13:52:06] <gigaherz> you have to explicitly enumerate each and every possible variant combination

L1213[13:52:30] <Tatskaari> Is it a really bad idea to base the collision box of a block on a value in the tile entity? I’m getting some strange going ons. The collision box is in the right place but right clicking doesn’t place on the correct side and occasionally the collision box dissapears for a few frames.

L1214[13:53:17] <Yuri6037> that would mean that vanilla limits defines a limit so that blocks can not be as the size of a normal block

L1215[13:53:30] <Yuri6037> It makes no sense

L1216[13:54:28] <gigaherz> Tatskaari: well keep in mind

L1217[13:54:41] <gigaherz> some uses of the bounding box will be on the client

L1218[13:54:43] <gigaherz> and some on the server

L1219[13:54:49] <gigaherz> so make sure they are properly in sync

L1220[13:55:57] <Tatskaari> gigaherz: Do they have to be exactly in synch? I’m updating it on the client once every frame and on the server once every tick

L1221[13:56:30] <gigaherz> no, otherwise lag would make the game unplayable

L1222[13:56:45] <gigaherz> but just keep in mind that could matter

L1223[13:56:49] <gigaherz> in terms of sometimes being slightly off

L1224[13:57:07] <Tatskaari> But that wouldn’t affect the right click behavior surely? That’s client side only.

L1225[13:57:10] <gigaherz> if the issues can't be "explained away" by desync

L1226[13:57:17] <gigaherz> thne yeah, you have a problem

L1227[13:58:03] <gigaherz> so, modding problems aside

L1228[13:58:06] <gigaherz> it's new year's eve

L1229[13:58:23] <gigaherz> and i have just finished preparing the food, and it's now cooking in the oven

L1230[13:59:02] <Tatskaari> I just ate until my belly hurts.

L1231[14:00:15] <Tatskaari> Garlic pork shouldner steaks, garlic mushrooms, chunky chips, parsnips and carrot sticks.

L1232[14:01:28] <Yuri6037> It's so weird all the positions that are generated from the JSON converter are ALL negative but my model is inside one block so it should not be negative

L1233[14:08:00] <gigaherz> Tatskaari: I boiled some potatoes until the skin would peel off, and made a base of potatoes on the oven plate

L1234[14:08:07] <Yuri6037> Ok using a height value I can fix the JSON export problem now my model works in JSON

L1235[14:08:27] <gigaherz> I cooked some onion slices, tomato slices, and carrot slices until they were a bit soft

L1236[14:08:31] <gigaherz> and put that on top of the potatoes

L1237[14:08:43] <gigaherz> then I covered some pork with some "argentinian style sauce" I found in the supermarket

L1238[14:08:57] <gigaherz> so that it keeps the moisture

L1239[14:09:05] <gigaherz> and put it on top of the rest

L1240[14:09:18] <gigaherz> then dropped some garlic "bits" (whatever they are called) around

L1241[14:09:22] <gigaherz> and put some white wine

L1242[14:09:31] <gigaherz> it's now in the oven at 170C

L1243[14:09:33] <gigaherz> ;P

L1244[14:09:46] <barteks2x> Can entries in .lang files contain newlines?

L1245[14:09:52] <Tatskaari> I do love a good oven bake though it sounds like it needs copius amounts of cheese if you ask me ;)

L1246[14:10:58] <gigaherz> cheese?!

L1247[14:10:58] <Yuri6037> I need translation and rotation

L1248[14:11:29] <gigaherz> Tatskaari: the result is meant to look a bit like https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ilxMn64iiXs/UXlu0f3qV3I/AAAAAAAATXI/MYt6DJyssbU/s1600/1-20abril2013+053.JPG

L1249[14:11:37] <gigaherz> although I didn't leave the garlic whole

L1250[14:11:43] <gigaherz> or the onions

L1251[14:11:44] <Tatskaari> Oh right

L1252[14:11:49] <Tatskaari> I was getting a very different idea

L1253[14:12:15] <Tatskaari> Something like http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/article/potato-bake-top-12-recipes-a1001.html

L1254[14:12:23] <barteks2x> %n in .lang file should result in newline right?

L1255[14:12:32] <Yuri6037> Let's try to apply some rotation and translation now

L1256[14:12:36] <gigaherz> barteks2x: not sure

L1257[14:12:41] <gigaherz> also

L1258[14:12:55] <gigaherz> newlines only work if you use the drawString method that will draw multiple lines

L1259[14:13:04] <barteks2x> I handle newlines myself

L1260[14:13:19] <barteks2x> but not sure if \n\r would work or not

L1261[14:13:22] <gigaherz> hmm

L1262[14:13:25] <gigaherz> if you hgandle them yourself

L1263[14:13:26] <barteks2x> I only tested it with \n

L1264[14:13:33] <gigaherz> you can just .replace("\\n", "\n")

L1265[14:14:08] <barteks2x> don't like that approach because I would need to handle escaped \

L1266[14:14:23] <barteks2x> and I think %n will work because String.format may do it

L1267[14:17:33] <Yuri6037> That's bad rotation has no effect

L1268[14:19:09] <Yuri6037> I can't rotate the thirdperson/firstperson model

L1269[14:24:23] <gigaherz> so I took the meat out of the oven for a moment, to get some of the wine juice onto the meat

L1270[14:24:24] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/photo_2016-12-31_21-23-55.jpg

L1271[14:24:29] <gigaherz> this is how it's looking so far

L1272[14:24:37] <barteks2x> things I got used to always stay there... I forgot that I don't need to restart to change code... and stopped the VM

L1273[14:24:47] <gigaherz> in 20-30min more, I'll turn the piece around so it makes a bit of a crust on the other side too

L1274[14:24:52] <Ordinastie> gigaherz, who puked on it? :p

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L1276[14:30:17] <barteks2x> this is magic, dcevm can replace static final constants

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L1278[14:30:27] <gigaherz> barteks2x: lol

L1279[14:31:20] <barteks2x> no idea how, re-running static initializers could have side effects

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L1281[14:31:51] <gr8pefish> What's the json format for 2 property overrides? Do you have multiple predicate blocks?

L1282[14:32:00] <gr8pefish> *on the same item

L1283[14:32:14] <howtonotwin> one predicate block with several kv pairs

L1284[14:33:05] <howtonotwin> overrides [ { predicate { a: X, b: Y, model: M }, { predicate { a: A, b: B, model: N } ]

L1285[14:33:19] <gr8pefish> ah, perfect, thanks

L1286[14:33:43] <howtonotwin> oh I borked the formatting a bit

L1287[14:33:51] <howtonotwin> whatever you can still understand it :P

L1288[14:33:59] <gr8pefish> I think so , yeah

L1289[14:34:18] <howtonotwin> There's also a class ItemOverride and a deserializer somewhere near it :P

L1290[14:34:23] <howtonotwin> check that if unsure

L1291[14:36:37] <howtonotwin> also barteks, I think \r\n causes a missing-glyph-esque character that looks like a box with dotted edges with a CR inside it

L1292[14:36:39] <howtonotwin> even on windows

L1293[14:36:45] <howtonotwin> so you may want to avoid that

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L1295[14:40:36] <barteks2x> I removed that al;ready when debugging other issue

L1296[14:41:22] <Yuri6037> I need to apply a rotation to the model thirdperson and firstperson view I could get the thirdperson to not be ignored but the rotation on Z axis is exactly the same as X axis...

L1297[14:42:30] <Yuri6037> by default the weapon points downwards but instead I want it to point forward so I rotate 90 in Y and 90 in Z but here is the issue Z = X !!

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L1302[14:45:27] <howtonotwin> Z is the axis that pierces the screen

L1303[14:45:39] <howtonotwin> you want to rotate about X

L1304[14:46:17] <howtonotwin> which is the one from side to side

L1305[14:46:53] <Yuri6037> Weird it's the countrary on my model Y axis is what you describe as X

L1306[14:47:50] <howtonotwin> o_O

L1307[14:48:00] <howtonotwin> keep swapping the axes around until it works then :P

L1308[14:48:18] <Yuri6037> Found it X 90 Y 0 Z 0

L1309[14:48:25] <Yuri6037> But translation is broken now

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L1311[14:49:17] <howtonotwin> The order is TRSR - Translate Rotate Scale Rotate

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L1313[14:49:38] <howtonotwin> get out your linear algebra textbook and start mathin'!

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L1315[14:50:32] <barteks2x> I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to let the user configure the inverse of noise generator frequency (what was english name of that?) instead of frequemcies with default values like 0.0083546 or 0.0007629

L1316[14:51:00] <gigaherz> inverse of frequency = period

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L1318[14:51:25] <Yuri6037> IntelliJ json reformat is BAD

L1319[14:51:35] <barteks2x> so would it be better to let the user configiure noise generator period or frequency? Preiod would be in blocks... frequency... in 1/blocks

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L1321[14:53:17] <howtonotwin> ¿Por qué no los dos?

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L1323[14:55:02] <barteks2x> I will go with preiod because it will actually for in my sliders, and anything is better that vanilla minecraft-frequency, which is normalFrequency*(2^numberOfOctaves) where number of octaves is not configurable and visible only in code

L1324[14:57:18] <gigaherz> period has some uses, and frequency has some other uses

L1325[14:57:27] <gigaherz> in this case, period seems like the more intuitive choice

L1326[14:57:57] <gigaherz> actually

L1327[14:58:02] <gigaherz> what would a "common" value be?

L1328[14:58:27] <howtonotwin> ?

L1329[14:58:34] <barteks2x> the default value?

L1330[14:58:43] <gigaherz> no I mean the normal range of operation

L1331[14:58:44] <gigaherz> like

L1332[14:59:00] <barteks2x> something like 1 to infinity?

L1333[14:59:02] <gigaherz> if normal values are 1-1000 blocks/cycle

L1334[14:59:08] <gigaherz> then period works best

L1335[14:59:09] <barteks2x> I would actually allow infinite period

L1336[14:59:15] <gigaherz> if it would be 0.0001 blocks/cycle

L1337[14:59:26] <gigaherz> then the frequency would make more sense

L1338[14:59:30] <barteks2x> normal values are default

L1339[14:59:31] <howtonotwin> these seem large scale

L1340[14:59:39] <gigaherz> so my question would be

L1341[14:59:41] <howtonotwin> those values up above have periods in the hundreds

L1342[14:59:49] <gigaherz> are "normal" values > 1, or < 1

L1343[15:00:06] <gigaherz> ah right

L1344[15:00:12] <gigaherz> "instead of frequemcies with default values like 0.0083546 or 0.0007629"

L1345[15:00:13] <barteks2x> defaulr periods would be between 500 and 2000

L1346[15:00:17] <gigaherz> yeah

L1347[15:00:18] <barteks2x> depending on what it would be

L1348[15:00:23] <gigaherz> definitely period is best.

L1349[15:00:24] <gigaherz> XD

L1350[15:00:46] <barteks2x> minecraft uses a third more weird option

L1351[15:02:37] <Yuri6037> I'm getting finally something using the JSON system... It's not "easy" like said by some internet websites

L1352[15:02:57] <howtonotwin> It's easier when you do complicated things

L1353[15:03:12] <howtonotwin> (And by easier I mean it makes the what used to be impossible work)

L1354[15:03:20] <howtonotwin> *~~the~~

L1355[15:04:03] <Yuri6037> What I mean is that when you have everything working in 1.7 it's a pain to update to 1.11

L1356[15:04:44] <Yuri6037> And I have not even figured out if my hack to change dynamically player speed is gonna work

L1357[15:05:21] <howtonotwin> tip: do not update anything model-ly from 1.7 to 1.8+

L1358[15:05:34] <howtonotwin> its better to nuke and restart

L1359[15:06:24] <Yuri6037> Well I'm not gonna remake all the models ok for the code but the models never I spent TOO much time behind models (days and days of editing with Techne)

L1360[15:07:44] <Yuri6037> let's hope this model system will be as simple when I will need my armor...

L1361[15:08:32] <Yuri6037> (It's an armor that permits you to never or pratically never die... (As long as you have battery power)

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L1363[15:14:11] <howtonotwin> it doesn't actually touch that :P

L1364[15:14:20] <howtonotwin> entity renders are basically the same

L1365[15:22:01] <barteks2x> I hate this keyboard, it has \ (|) and ' (") in the wrong places...

L1366[15:22:31] <barteks2x> or at least not the places I'm used to

L1367[15:22:36] <barteks2x> not sure what is correct anymore

L1368[15:23:02] <howtonotwin> \ is above RET and ' is to the left on mine

L1369[15:23:27] <barteks2x> for me there is backspace above ret, and \ is on the right of '

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L1371[15:24:47] <Zidane> gigaherz, in your cocoon's blockstate, do you set the inventory variant manually when you load in the code?

L1372[15:24:51] <howtonotwin> Standard: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Qwerty.svg

L1373[15:25:37] <barteks2x> and none of the keyboards I have in total has this layout

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L1375[15:26:21] <barteks2x> if someone told me to use one with the standard layout, I would say it's wrong

L1376[15:27:43] <barteks2x> and RET is kind of upside down on that one O.o

L1377[15:33:24] <Yuri6037> Is there a hot reload for models to make tests ?

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L1379[15:36:45] <howtonotwin> F3+T = reload models

L1380[15:36:52] <howtonotwin> *resources

L1381[15:37:28] <gigaherz> Zidane: what do you mean?

L1382[15:37:56] <Yuri6037> Also can I change the translation of the model in world rendering

L1383[15:38:35] <Zidane> nvm gigaherz

L1384[15:38:41] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/DSC_0111.JPG

L1385[15:38:43] <gigaherz> :3

L1386[15:38:50] <gigaherz> just finished eating ;P

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L1390[15:45:26] <Zidane> gigaherz, for some reason, the variant loader is hell bent on loading a normal variant though I think my blockstate is right now

L1391[15:46:13] <Yuri6037> Where can I find a list of possible display elements (thirdperson_lefthand, firstperson_lefthand, ...)

L1392[15:46:17] <Yuri6037> ?

L1393[15:46:29] <Zidane> gigaherz, https://gist.github.com/Zidane/8d93ad6ef31ff0154d6bab5c304d9a1c

L1394[15:46:42] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: ForgeBlockStateV1.java

L1395[15:46:59] <Zidane> Yuri6037, or ItemCameraTransforms.TransformType for an enum

L1396[15:47:04] <TehNut> Or the MC wiki http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Model#Block_models

L1397[15:47:11] <gigaherz> nono

L1398[15:47:16] <gigaherz> forge blockstates has a few extra

L1399[15:47:18] <gigaherz> ;P^

L1400[15:47:20] <TehNut> Does it?

L1401[15:47:38] <gigaherz> wait no

L1402[15:47:39] <gigaherz> hmmm

L1403[15:47:53] <TehNut> Nope all the same

L1404[15:47:59] <Yuri6037> What's the differance between display head and display ground ?

L1405[15:48:01] <gigaherz> nevermind

L1406[15:48:12] <TehNut> how it renders on a player head vs how it renders as an item entity

L1407[15:48:16] <gigaherz> Yuri6037: "head" is literally when you equip the block in your head

L1408[15:48:24] <gigaherz> such as a pumpkin

L1409[15:48:37] <Yuri6037> You can equip a block ?

L1410[15:48:40] <gigaherz> yes

L1411[15:48:48] <gigaherz> with commands, you can equip any block

L1412[15:48:57] <gigaherz> without commands, only player heads and pumpkins

L1413[15:49:02] <Yuri6037> And if it's an item it does not count ?

L1414[15:49:21] <gigaherz> well dunno how an item would apply in your head

L1415[15:49:23] <gigaherz> besides armor

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L1418[15:50:34] <Yuri6037> Yeah but the fact is that I have 1 or 2 standard items all my items are 3D models

L1419[15:51:04] <howtonotwin> you don't need to supply all of them

L1420[15:51:06] <gigaherz> that doesn't really matter

L1421[15:51:10] <gigaherz> just give wahtever you care about

L1422[15:51:15] <howtonotwin> you can just leave head to default

L1423[15:51:36] <gigaherz> the important ones are firstperson_x, thirdperson_x, gui, and sometimes, ground

L1424[15:52:02] <gigaherz> well fixed IIRC means item frame?

L1425[15:52:04] <Yuri6037> I will need to do ground for a translation and gui forcely because gui just does not render at all (I suspect it's ouside the screen)

L1426[15:52:58] <Yuri6037> for the moment the model renders right in thirdperson and firstperson

L1427[15:53:37] <Yuri6037> now I have ground OK

L1428[15:54:01] <Zidane> Any idea gigaherz ?

L1429[15:54:27] <gigaherz> not really

L1430[15:54:32] <gigaherz> all my blood is in my belly

L1431[15:54:35] <Yuri6037> Well item frame it's bugging...

L1432[15:55:52] <Yuri6037> I'd say I don't ware ItemFrame for the moment

L1433[15:55:59] <Yuri6037> *care

L1434[15:58:38] <Yuri6037> In inventory it's not 3D

L1435[15:58:58] <Zidane> gigaherz, do you set a custom model resource location for normal anywhere in your mod?

L1436[15:59:18] <gigaherz> nope

L1437[15:59:23] <gigaherz> "normal" is only used for blocks without states

L1438[15:59:29] <gigaherz> do you override createblockState in your block?

L1439[15:59:34] <Zidane> No

L1440[15:59:39] <gigaherz> that'd be why, then

L1441[16:00:00] <gigaherz> if you want blockstates

L1442[16:00:05] <Zidane> Do I need to do that even if the block is basically nothing to it?

L1443[16:00:16] <Zidane> Its a basic cube that renders an obj model

L1444[16:00:16] <gigaherz> if you don't have blockstate properties

L1445[16:00:19] <gigaherz> then you have "normal"

L1446[16:00:28] <gigaherz> and then yes, you would have "normal" in your blockstates file

L1447[16:00:35] <Zidane> Got it

L1448[16:01:01] <PaleoCrafter> hm... Mojang didn't put fireworks for celebrating the new year into the game, did they?

L1449[16:04:20] <Yuri6037> F3+T does not work

L1450[16:08:09] <Zidane> gigaherz, https://gist.github.com/Zidane/8d93ad6ef31ff0154d6bab5c304d9a1c ?

L1451[16:08:59] <gigaherz> yep like that

L1452[16:09:24] <Zidane> Still fails to load it

L1453[16:09:44] <gigaherz> errors in the log?

L1454[16:10:08] <Zidane> Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException

L1455[16:10:08] <Zidane> at net.minecraftforge.client.model.ModelLoader$WeightedRandomModel.<init>(ModelLoader.java:758) ~[ModelLoader$WeightedRandomModel.class:?]

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L1457[16:10:17] <Zidane> Which to me means model = null

L1458[16:10:21] <Zidane> yet I've specified it

L1459[16:10:21] <Zidane> :S

L1460[16:10:55] <gigaherz> try moving the model line into the [{}]s

L1461[16:10:59] <gigaherz> see if that changes anything

L1462[16:11:03] <Zidane> mmk

L1463[16:13:24] <Yuri6037> World.setBlock has been removed ?

L1464[16:14:25] <gigaherz> it's setBlockState

L1465[16:14:34] <gigaherz> you can use block.getDefaultState()

L1466[16:14:39] <gigaherz> or

L1467[16:14:51] <gigaherz> block.getDefaultState().withProperty(SOMETHING, value)...

L1468[16:14:59] <gigaherz> to get a specific sub-block

L1469[16:16:48] <Yuri6037> And what happened to IChatComponent and DamageSource (I'm trying to import EntityDrone which causes custom damage type)

L1470[16:17:00] <Yuri6037> public IChatComponent func_151519_b(EntityLivingBase dead) {

L1471[16:20:34] <gigaherz> ITextComponent

L1472[16:20:50] <gigaherz> DamageSource is still a thing

L1473[16:21:03] <gigaherz> !gm func_151519_b

L1474[16:21:10] <gigaherz> func_151519_b is now getDeathMessage

L1475[16:22:14] <Yuri6037> I18n is deprecated and that's where I can get the translateToLocal method

L1476[16:22:24] <gigaherz> use I18n.format instead

L1477[16:22:26] <gigaherz> it's in another package

L1478[16:22:33] <gigaherz> note that it's client-only

L1479[16:22:35] <gigaherz> but it's ok

L1480[16:22:40] <gigaherz> because mod strings don't exist in the server

L1481[16:22:54] <gigaherz> if you DO need to get the strings in the server, and vanilla strings are enough, then you can use the deprecated one

L1482[16:23:45] <Yuri6037> And if I need to get from server and that vanilla strings are not sufficient (it's a custom damage type)

L1483[16:23:56] <Yuri6037> that has a custom death notification

L1484[16:24:27] <Yuri6037> I could use StatCollector in the past 1.7.10

L1485[16:24:58] <gigaherz> no you couldn't

L1486[16:24:59] <gigaherz> I mean

L1487[16:25:00] <gigaherz> you could

L1488[16:25:12] <gigaherz> but forge has NEVER loaded mod strings in the server

L1489[16:25:17] <gigaherz> (so far as I know)

L1490[16:25:25] <gigaherz> it just doesn't have a resource system

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L1492[16:29:01] <Zidane> That did not work either gigaherz . I have to be doing stupid and missing something simple.

L1493[16:29:21] <Yuri6037> the server doesn't have resource system ? And are there any plans of supporting strings in server ?

L1494[16:29:22] <Zidane> debugger shows it loaded TexturedVariants for normal/inventory

L1495[16:29:24] <Zidane> Just model is no

L1496[16:29:39] <Zidane> Yuri6037, server doesn't do resources and Mojang likely has no plans to change this

L1497[16:30:08] <Yuri6037> So I have to load them manualy

L1498[16:30:14] <gigaherz> if you *require* them, yes

L1499[16:30:40] <Yuri6037> The resource is always going to be package with Jar file so I can probably use an InputStream and read byte per byte

L1500[16:31:10] <Yuri6037> I do that almost on every project in my programming school

L1501[16:32:59] <gigaherz> no need to read it byte by byte

L1502[16:34:18] <gigaherz> IOUtils.toString(this.getClass().getResourceAsStream("assets/modid/lang/en_US.lang"));

L1503[16:38:13] <gigaherz> 25min till I cross over the year line

L1504[16:41:36] <Yuri6037> spawnParticle no longer takes a string that's bad if you want custom particle

L1505[16:43:44] <Yuri6037> getShadowSize does no longer exist client side ?

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L1507[16:56:31] <Zaggy1024> Yuri, which spawnParticle?

L1508[16:58:02] <Zaggy1024> back when I was messing with it, I was able to "register" (manually through reflection, IIRC) some new EnumParticleTypes to use for World.spawnParticle

L1509[17:00:04] <Yuri6037> Yeah I see... And how did you mapped the Enum to your particle ?

L1510[17:00:27] <Zaggy1024> used to be that it had particle factories that were registered to the enums

L1511[17:00:30] <Zaggy1024> not sure if that's still the case

L1512[17:00:48] <Zaggy1024> ah, looks like it is

L1513[17:00:50] <Zaggy1024> see ParticleManager

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L1515[17:02:24] <gigaherz> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ANYONE ON GMT+1!

L1516[17:03:03] <howtonotwin> Now it is sleepytimes for you :P

L1517[17:03:40] <gigaherz> lol

L1518[17:04:15] <Zaggy1024> Yuri6037, this is what I used to create the particle types https://github.com/WinternestStudios/Genesis/blob/master/src/main/java/genesis/util/ParticleUtils.java

L1519[17:04:48] <Zaggy1024> not sure how well it works now, haven't been maintaining that code for like half a year

L1520[17:05:27] <Yuri6037> onItemUseFinish is not working

L1521[17:05:54] <Yuri6037> Is there an equivalence to onItemRightClick ?

L1522[17:06:05] <howtonotwin> onItemUse

L1523[17:06:24] <howtonotwin> onItemUseFinish is for the release of things like bows

L1524[17:07:15] <Yuri6037> onItemUse does not exist

L1525[17:07:37] <PaleoCrafter> gigaherz, some badly programmed mod already wished me a happy new year an hour ago, tsk

L1526[17:07:42] <howtonotwin> Item.onItemUse?

L1527[17:08:05] <gr8pefish> Given 3 states an item can be in (in my case normal, in-use, or broken), what is the best way to organize the json/itemProperties for it? Can you do one property with 3 different states (and if so, how does that look in the json)?

L1528[17:08:16] <howtonotwin> not really

L1529[17:08:20] <howtonotwin> its always floats

L1530[17:08:23] <Yuri6037> No it's not what I want it's only called on block right click I want it to be called everytime player right clicks

L1531[17:08:27] <howtonotwin> just use 0, 1, and 2

L1532[17:08:38] <howtonotwin> PlayerInteractEvent should do it

L1533[17:09:00] <Yuri6037> You're telling me that onItemRightClick has been removed ?

L1534[17:09:49] <howtonotwin> no...

L1535[17:10:20] <Yuri6037> The method signature changed a lot

L1536[17:10:22] <howtonotwin> it's still there

L1537[17:10:52] <howtonotwin> If adding a hand param is "a lot", yeah :P

L1538[17:11:01] <gr8pefish> howto, so I can do (status = (in-use) ? 2.0 : if (broken) 1.0 : 0.0), and then just do something like {"predicate": { "status": 1 }, "model": "mod:item/item_broken"}, {..the other 2 predicates of status 0 and 1...} ?

L1539[17:11:13] <Yuri6037> No it's also removing access to item stack !!

L1540[17:11:20] <gr8pefish> if that's not clear let me know and I'll pastebin or somethign ^

L1541[17:11:31] <gigaherz> so

L1542[17:11:36] <gigaherz> time to do a bugfix release for one of my mods

L1543[17:11:37] <howtonotwin> it's not as if you need it...

L1544[17:12:09] <howtonotwin> also gr8pefish ew ternaries

L1545[17:12:13] <Yuri6037> WHAT I don't need it ! How am I supposed to save something in NBT when player uses my Item !!??

L1546[17:12:22] <howtonotwin> you have a EnumHand

L1547[17:12:31] <howtonotwin> player -> get item in hand -> ??? -> profit

L1548[17:12:34] <gr8pefish> I was trying to be concise for IRC :/

L1549[17:12:37] <gigaherz> player.getHeldItem(hand)

L1550[17:12:44] <gr8pefish> But does that general logic flow work?

L1551[17:12:48] <howtonotwin> yes

L1552[17:12:51] <gr8pefish> okay, thanks

L1553[17:12:56] <howtonotwin> vanilla uses it

L1554[17:13:30] <gr8pefish> Does it? The bow uses 2 different values to map as 3 states.

L1555[17:13:41] * gr8pefish should go check out clocks

L1556[17:14:03] <gr8pefish> ah yup, that is the case with clocks

L1557[17:14:08] <howtonotwin> the bow has 3 states? what?

L1558[17:14:21] <howtonotwin> last I check there were two properties

L1559[17:14:28] <howtonotwin> 4, if you count damage

L1560[17:14:45] <gigaherz> wow

L1561[17:14:45] <gigaherz> wtf

L1562[17:14:49] <gigaherz> my Rift Interface eats items

L1563[17:14:53] <howtonotwin> vanilla doesn't use ternaries, it just uses booleans

L1564[17:14:53] <gigaherz> doesn't actually place them anywehre?!

L1565[17:15:01] <gr8pefish> two properties, and that is shown as 3 "states", sorry, the terminology is odd

L1566[17:15:31] <gr8pefish> pulling0, 1, and 2

L1567[17:15:45] <gr8pefish> using the properties pull and pulling

L1568[17:16:02] <Yuri6037> Thanks no I should have back my EntityDrone

L1569[17:18:29] <Zidane> Alright gigaherz figured out my problem...only issue left now is inventory renders as the missingno cube but when placed it is an obj

L1570[17:19:23] <Yuri6037> Or maybe not regsitering entity also changed

L1571[17:20:15] <Yuri6037> It does not spawn entity

L1572[17:20:24] <Yuri6037> EntityRegistry.registerModEntity(null, entityClass, "ancientAddin." + id, usingID, AncientAddinMod.MODID, 10, 1, true);

L1573[17:20:50] *** DarkevilAway is now known as Darkevilmac

L1574[17:25:32] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/commit/540b63040869e4e51038e6374b83fa9d6c27f100

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L1576[17:28:55] <Yuri6037> Ok I fixed the issue

L1577[17:29:05] <Yuri6037> Now debugging EntityDrone

L1578[17:34:26] <Yuri6037> The entity gets removed right after it spawned

L1579[17:38:13] <gigaherz> crap

L1580[17:38:16] <gigaherz> first release of the year

L1581[17:38:20] <gigaherz> first BROKEN release of the year.

L1582[17:38:23] <gigaherz> welp, not a good start

L1583[17:38:32] <gigaherz> I have a dupe bug ;P

L1584[17:38:46] <gr8pefish> Starting the year off right :P

L1585[17:38:51] <Yuri6037> don't worry I think I found why it does not work

L1586[17:39:57] <Yuri6037> If that fixes the issue than I'm stupid

L1587[17:40:45] <gigaherz> UGH, ALL THE BUGS!

L1588[17:40:54] <gigaherz> how did all of this slip through my testing last release?!

L1589[17:40:59] <gigaherz> Did I even DO any testing?!

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L1591[17:42:40] <Yuri6037> Ok it's official I'm stupid

L1592[17:43:54] <Yuri6037> Basically I done a condition like that onUpdate if (getBlockstate(new BlockPos((int)posX, (int)posY, (int)posZ)).getBlock == Blocks.AIR then setDead()....

L1593[17:44:27] <Yuri6037> which means to kill it instantly if you spawn it in air...

L1594[17:44:42] <Yuri6037> The stupid if block of the year

L1595[17:45:02] <Yuri6037> yeah i made the first broken if block of the year

L1596[17:45:18] <Yuri6037> anyways gtg now tired

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L1598[17:45:28] <barteks2x> was that suppoised to be with "!"?

L1599[17:45:32] <barteks2x> oh, he left

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L1602[17:46:52] <gr8pefish> What's the "best" side to update an item damage on? The server and send to client (my assumption), or vice-versa?

L1603[17:47:02] <parzivail> anyone had the issue where you transfer to another dimension, but you can't interact with entities until you restart the world? am I forgetting something?

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L1606[17:53:22] <Lisimba> gr8pefish: I figure the server is the right side for anything you can do there.

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L1609[17:54:41] <gr8pefish> Yeah what I have is on a player tick (which fires on both sides) I need to update one from the other. So I can update on server and sent that to client, or I can do the reverse. I don't think it matters much here, but thought I'd ask. Specifically I just need to damage an item (and keep that synced).

L1610[17:55:31] <gr8pefish> But I can't just do blah.damageItem, as I am doing it randomly, so I'm waiting until the RNG goes through, then I need to send the message (and do it on the other side).

L1611[17:55:40] <gigaherz> anything "authoritative" should be done on the server

L1612[17:55:56] <gigaherz> the client can choose to predict the server's response

L1613[17:56:01] <gigaherz> as a way to reduce the feeling of lag

L1614[17:56:23] <gigaherz> the only place where minecraft lets the client take control

L1615[17:56:26] <gigaherz> is in moving the player

L1616[17:56:33] <gigaherz> it doesn't fully verify the moements to be correct

L1617[17:56:36] <gigaherz> movements*

L1618[17:57:37] <gr8pefish> okay cool, that's what I though, thanks for verifying.

L1619[18:00:10] <parzivail> ok, i've narrowed it down to entities not updating in the dimension I currently inhabit after switching dimensions

L1620[18:00:48] <parzivail> i can place blocks no problem

L1621[18:02:54] <parzivail> it fixes itself when I die and respawn

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L1623[18:08:08] <barteks2x> anyone remember the math term for function f(g(x))?

L1624[18:08:30] <parzivail> i always just heard them called functions

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L1626[18:08:58] <barteks2x> the thing has a mane in math but I don't remember that name

L1627[18:09:07] <parzivail> composition?

L1628[18:09:11] <barteks2x> probably

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L1630[18:09:46] <parzivail> "In mathematics, function composition is the pointwise application of one function to the result of another to produce a third function"

L1631[18:10:14] <barteks2x> well, now the question is - does it have any functional programming name

L1632[18:10:22] <parzivail> functions

L1633[18:10:25] <parzivail> :)

L1634[18:10:50] <barteks2x> So I will explain what I want to do and what name I'm looking for...

L1635[18:10:57] <parzivail> shoot

L1636[18:10:58] <barteks2x> Guava has Converter class

L1637[18:11:18] <barteks2x> and I'm creating util method/function that takes 2 converters and returns basically f(g(x))

L1638[18:11:26] <barteks2x> a third converter

L1639[18:11:44] <barteks2x> converter is different than function in that it can al;ways be reversed

L1640[18:11:52] <parzivail> and you're trying to name it, or what>

L1641[18:11:53] <parzivail> ?

L1642[18:11:58] <barteks2x> trying to name it

L1643[18:12:03] <barteks2x> in a way that makes sense

L1644[18:12:16] <barteks2x> the code is literally 4 lines

L1645[18:12:20] <barteks2x> and I can't come up with name

L1646[18:14:06] <barteks2x> I'm almost sure it's somethig common with a name in functional programming, but I don't know it

L1647[18:16:14] <tterrag> ....composition

L1648[18:21:23] <barteks2x> when I do something like this: 1.0f/(1.0f/x) with x == 0.0f, is it safe to assume that I get 0 back?

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L1650[18:22:58] <barteks2x> or are there some weird special cases I don't yet know about?

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L1653[18:23:26] <barteks2x> 1.0/0.0 should give me infinity, and 1.0/infinity should give me 0, right?

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L1656[18:23:38] <gigaherz> !calc 1/0

L1657[18:23:44] <gigaherz> !!calc 1/0

L1658[18:23:44] <gigaherz> gigaherz: Result(s): POSITIVE INFINITY

L1659[18:24:00] <gigaherz> !!calc 1/(1/0)

L1660[18:24:00] <gigaherz> gigaherz: Result(s): 0

L1661[18:24:08] <gigaherz> unless java messes with the values

L1662[18:24:16] <gigaherz> the FPU will indeed give those results

L1663[18:24:20] <ScottehBoeh> public void wishNewYear(Year year){ Log.print("Happy new year, enjoy " + year.toString + "!") }

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L1665[18:25:06] <gigaherz> Happy new year, enjoy {Method group}!

L1666[18:27:56] <parzivail> when i teleport a player to another dimension, that happens serverside right? and it tells the client to do to too? or do I need to do it on both sides

L1667[18:28:05] <parzivail> do so too*

L1668[18:28:17] <gigaherz> no idea

L1669[18:28:19] <gigaherz> check the nether portal?

L1670[18:30:33] <parzivail> that's what I've been working off of

L1671[18:31:02] <parzivail> but i'll travel to a dimension and won't be able to interact with it until a world restart so i suspect something is wrong here

L1672[18:35:43] <gigaherz> I wish they'd have made it so that a redstone signal causes the shulker box to animate into the open position

L1673[18:36:30] <gr8pefish> Hmm, any idea why re-equipping animations would break in singleplayer? https://streamable.com/9fxap

L1674[18:36:37] <gr8pefish> *first person view

L1675[18:36:44] <gr8pefish> idk why I typed singleplayer

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L1677[18:39:55] <parzivail> are your first person transforms correct?

L1678[18:42:26] <gr8pefish> Oh that might be it, I only have a first person transform on one of them (the state that oddly enough isn't showing)

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L1689[19:26:38] <gigaherz> oh hey

L1690[19:26:43] <gigaherz> when was this memory thingy added to forge?

L1691[19:27:07] <gigaherz> the loading screen

L1692[19:29:14] <gigaherz> anyone knows/has a list of whatchanged code-wise between 1.11 and 1.11.2?

L1693[19:29:33] <gigaherz> so far as I can tell, Ender-Rift works out of the box

L1694[19:29:54] <gigaherz> (the 1.11 jar)

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L1698[19:37:14] <Disconsented> Thread safe way of applying potion effects?

L1699[19:37:30] <gigaherz> apply from?

L1700[19:37:56] <Disconsented> https://gist.github.com/disconsented/7d3abd4a2e11a7119190e29d525b9ba7#file-potioncrystalpoison-java-L49-L72

L1701[19:38:03] <gigaherz> I mean where are you running the code, that would cause threading issues

L1702[19:38:20] <Disconsented> Potion.preformEffect

L1703[19:38:29] <gigaherz> yes but where does that run in

L1704[19:38:31] <gigaherz> which thread

L1705[19:38:32] <gigaherz> which context

L1706[19:38:37] <Disconsented> No clue

L1707[19:39:01] <gigaherz> are you applying the potion effect from an item use?

L1708[19:39:04] <gigaherz> from a tick handler?

L1709[19:39:07] <gigaherz> from a network packet?

L1710[19:39:12] <Disconsented> From within another potioneffect

L1711[19:39:16] <gigaherz> WAT

L1712[19:39:37] <gigaherz> wait I see

L1713[19:39:43] <gigaherz> that's crazyness XD

L1714[19:39:52] <Disconsented> Is there a better way to do that?

L1715[19:40:11] <Necro> does it even cause threading issues? shouldn't it run on the main thread anyway?

L1716[19:40:14] <gigaherz> oyu may want to schedule a task on the player's world

L1717[19:40:22] <gigaherz> not threading issues

L1718[19:40:31] <gigaherz> but it may cause reentrancy issues

L1719[19:40:38] <gigaherz> since the list is modified within the iterator

L1720[19:40:55] <gigaherz> the solution is to queue/delay it until afterward

L1721[19:41:16] <gigaherz> and the easy way is to use entityLivingBaseIn.getWorld().addScheduledTask

L1722[19:41:26] <gigaherz> so that it runs at the start of the next tick

L1723[19:42:02] <gigaherz> also, Disconsented, don't use get by id on potions

L1724[19:42:20] <Disconsented> Was being lazy there

L1725[19:42:54] <gigaherz> actually

L1726[19:43:00] <gigaherz> are there potion fields?

L1727[19:43:11] <Disconsented> You mean like Block.Whatever?

L1728[19:43:20] <gigaherz> yeah

L1729[19:43:30] <Disconsented> Not that I am aware of

L1730[19:43:34] <Disconsented> There is just the registry

L1731[19:43:44] <gigaherz> weird.

L1732[19:43:53] <gigaherz> you should do it by string, then ;P

L1733[19:44:06] <gigaherz> and cache them

L1734[19:44:11] <gigaherz> so that you only query the registry once

L1735[19:44:46] <LexMobile> they are a normal registry

L1736[19:44:48] <Disconsented> Will do, I don't see a addScheduledTask method on the world obj

L1737[19:44:51] <LexMobile> they work with @ObjectHolders

L1738[19:44:55] <LexMobile> so you can make them

L1739[19:45:04] <gigaherz> ah right

L1740[19:45:07] <gigaherz> I always forget about those

L1741[19:45:14] <gigaherz> Disconsented: hmmm

L1742[19:45:22] <gigaherz> ah, it may only exist on WorldServers

L1743[19:47:05] <gigaherz> wtf was minecraft:totem

L1744[19:47:10] <gigaherz> and why's it missing from 1.11.2?

L1745[19:47:28] <gigaherz> ah, it's now totem_of_undying, I suppose?

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L1747[19:49:17] <gigaherz> OH! an idea, if someone feels like implementing it: a mod that makes the elytra able to contain gunpowder in it

L1748[19:49:20] <gigaherz> and while holding spacebar

L1749[19:49:35] <gigaherz> it applies a temporary rocket push

L1750[19:49:36] <Disconsented> That sounds fatal

L1751[19:51:00] <howtonotwin> don't we have rocket elytra in vanilla already?

L1752[19:51:05] <gigaherz> yes

L1753[19:51:10] <gigaherz> but you have to hold the rockets separately

L1754[19:51:11] <Disconsented> Well there was the punch 2 bow thing

L1755[19:51:21] <gigaherz> Disconsented: look at 1.11.2 ;P

L1756[19:51:28] <gigaherz> firework rockets now actually push you

L1757[19:51:31] <gigaherz> no more need for bows

L1758[19:51:33] <Disconsented> oh neat

L1759[19:52:30] <gigaherz> okay Survivalist appears to also work on 1.11.2

L1760[19:52:36] <gigaherz> second mod that I can tag in curseforge

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L1763[20:01:09] <Disconsented> So I need to hook into entity ticks and do my applications there, correct?

L1764[20:01:18] <Disconsented> s/applications/applying effects

L1765[20:01:32] <gigaherz> can't you just do like

L1766[20:02:21] <gigaherz> if (world instanceof IThreadListener) ((IThreadListener)world).addScheduledTask(() -> addPotionEffect blah blah);

L1767[20:17:18] <Akkarin> well Happpy new 2017 Europeans or something

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L1769[20:22:52] <howtonotwin> wait why CAN'T you just do it from another potion?

L1770[20:24:01] <Disconsented> I don't see how using an ObjectHolder helps me

L1771[20:24:31] <howtonotwin> https://gist.github.com/disconsented/7d3abd4a2e11a7119190e29d525b9ba7#file-potioncrystalpoison-java-L57

L1772[20:24:40] <howtonotwin> gets rid of that

L1773[20:25:05] <howtonotwin> IDs are ugly and should not be used unless absolutely required

L1774[20:25:31] <howtonotwin> you can either just change that string names

L1775[20:25:53] <howtonotwin> and in case you don't want to do that over and over every tick an @OH will keep it in a static field

L1776[20:26:02] <howtonotwin> *~either~

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L1778[20:27:29] <gigaherz> howtonotwin: because EntityLivingBase#updatePotionEffects has a while() loop with an iterator, which means if he applies a potion effect, he'll modify activePotionsMap, while iterating it

L1779[20:27:31] <gigaherz> and boom, CME

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L1781[20:29:01] <ghz|afk> nibht!

L1782[20:29:03] <ghz|afk> night*

L1783[20:29:17] <howtonotwin> o/

L1784[20:29:58] <Akkarin> b-b-but ... cme's are so much fun

L1785[20:30:59] * howtonotwin blasts Akkarin with a elder guardian's beam

L1786[20:31:15] * Akkarin doesn't feel very affected

L1787[20:31:30] * howtonotwin realizes he's on MC 2.0 and that only made Akkarin feel better

L1788[20:31:45] * howtonotwin tries to downgrade frantically

L1789[20:32:16] <Akkarin> I mean ... practically I'm a magician and a phoenix at this point. Logic doesn't apply to me anymore ... at least in a roleplay scenario

L1790[20:32:43] <howtonotwin> Anyway, I'm about to install the Scala IDE plugin into eclipse again

L1791[20:32:53] <howtonotwin> Let's hope the recent update made it less shit...

L1792[20:33:43] <quadraxis> scala or eclipse?

L1793[20:33:54] <quadraxis> :p

L1794[20:33:57] <howtonotwin> yes

L1795[20:34:00] <howtonotwin> :P

L1796[20:34:38] * howtonotwin secretly pines for dotty to come and save him anyway

L1797[20:37:38] <Disconsented> @GameRegistry.ObjectHolder("minecraft:poison") private static final PotionEffect poison = null;

L1798[20:37:38] <Disconsented> I assume I am using the wrong name here, how do I find what I want to use?

L1799[20:38:30] <howtonotwin> it'd be in game or you can just look at where it's registered

L1800[20:38:46] <howtonotwin> but I'm pretty sure its poison

L1801[20:38:56] <howtonotwin> there's not much room for error there :P

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L1803[20:40:05] <Disconsented> That throws java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: poison

L1804[20:40:26] <howtonotwin> public

L1805[20:40:28] <howtonotwin> make it public

L1806[20:41:05] <Akkarin> ReflectionUtil is your friend btw. ... or whatever that is called now

L1807[20:41:22] <howtonotwin> that's about as useful as a cucumber wearing a skirt rn :P

L1808[20:41:28] <Akkarin> too drunk to care about semantics

L1809[20:41:54] <howtonotwin> New Years Alcohol strikes again!

L1810[20:42:14] <Akkarin> am German am allowed to be intoxicated at any time

L1811[20:42:51] <howtonotwin> meanwhile all my cognitive powers are being consumed by minesweeper

L1812[20:42:54] <RandomX45> drunk + tired = fail

L1813[20:43:10] <Akkarin> well technically I'm not tired. Just drunk

L1814[20:43:18] <Akkarin> and practically I still know how to logic :P

L1815[20:43:47] <Akkarin> says the guy that spent his time helping hundreds of people on Spigot IRC while being drunk

L1816[20:43:55] <Akkarin> quite a sad statistic for two years of service

L1817[20:44:32] <RandomX45> while (drunk) {person.stumble(); person.tellBadJoke(); if (person.isPlastered()) System.exit(128);}

L1818[20:44:47] <howtonotwin> aren't err codes 128+ reserved?

L1819[20:45:04] <Akkarin> not even using this

L1820[20:45:08] <howtonotwin> yep

L1821[20:45:15] <RandomX45> eh

L1822[20:45:16] <howtonotwin> 128 = invalid arg to exit

L1823[20:45:19] <Akkarin> OOP all the things and what not

L1824[20:45:44] <RandomX45> Technically you can return exit codes up to 255

L1825[20:45:48] <Disconsented> Ah I see now, there are no effects I have to pull direct from the potion reg and the field needs to reflect that

L1826[20:46:02] <howtonotwin> wat

L1827[20:46:10] <RandomX45> however exit codes above 128 are reserved for the system by specification.

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L1829[20:46:35] <Disconsented> The issue was I had PotionEffect instead of Potion

L1830[20:46:46] <RandomX45> So it's possible, but bad form.

L1831[20:46:47] <howtonotwin> oh right, didn't even notice that...

L1832[20:46:51] <howtonotwin> but it still should be public

L1833[20:46:58] <howtonotwin> unless they changed that

L1834[20:47:08] <howtonotwin> but then the javadoc would be out of date

L1835[20:47:21] <RandomX45> java doc has nothing to do with it.

L1836[20:47:25] <RandomX45> Operating system does

L1837[20:47:45] <howtonotwin> lol was talking about @ObjectHolder

L1838[20:47:52] <RandomX45> oh

L1839[20:47:53] * howtonotwin likes to juggle conversations

L1840[20:47:57] * RandomX45 is drunk

L1841[20:48:09] * howtonotwin curses New Years for causing this to happen

L1842[20:48:45] <RandomX45> The program is a joke in a way

L1843[20:48:48] <Akkarin> Drunk programmers are better people tho

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L1845[20:49:46] <RandomX45> because if your plastered at the bar... your exit is usually unclean. So that's why if the person is plastered the program exits with a standards violating exit code

L1846[20:50:14] * RandomX45 has weird programmers humor.

L1847[20:50:29] <howtonotwin> ...there's gotta be a logical fallacy for that kind of argument

L1848[20:50:31] <Akkarin> Programmers have no humor! lies!

L1849[20:50:36] <howtonotwin> but idk what it's called :P

L1850[20:50:54] <RandomX45> Wanna know something about your computers CPU

L1851[20:51:04] <howtonotwin> Yes

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L1853[20:51:46] <RandomX45> some logical fallacy the designers committed allows people with bad intent to hijack your system

L1854[20:52:16] <RandomX45> everything us humans create as a race has a flaw of some kind.

L1855[20:52:42] <howtonotwin> so you're saying brainfuck is flawed?

L1856[20:52:46] <howtonotwin> BLASPHEMY!

L1857[20:52:46] <Akkarin> lies drunken engeneering is perfect

L1858[20:52:53] <Akkarin> along with my typos right now

L1859[20:53:30] <RandomX45> drunken engineering is flawed... only the flaws are on purpose.

L1860[20:53:46] <Akkarin> to be fair I do security related stuff when I'm drunk since that'S much easier

L1861[20:53:51] <Akkarin> for whatever reason

L1862[20:53:59] <RandomX45> What kind?

L1863[20:54:17] <Akkarin> web nonsense usually ... aka the things you shouldn't do drunk

L1864[20:54:28] <RandomX45> I tinker with drivers and embedded systems.

L1865[20:54:41] <Akkarin> while being drunk? how reckless! :P

L1866[20:54:50] <RandomX45> sometimes

L1867[20:55:07] <Akkarin> as if that was any more risky than web shit at this point

L1868[20:55:39] <Akkarin> Funfact: Your ATM probably runs Windows XP and is actually capable of running DOOM

L1869[20:55:39] <RandomX45> all your web security bs is useless if the person breaking in knows your firewall's weak spot.

L1870[20:55:49] <Akkarin> firewall lol

L1871[20:55:51] <Akkarin> sure ... yeah no

L1872[20:56:14] <gr8pefish> Anyone know why my lang file would work just fine in the dev environment, but is broken when used in a built jar?

L1873[20:56:25] <gr8pefish> resources (i.e. textures) are fine

L1874[20:56:30] <RandomX45> lang files are picky

L1875[20:56:39] <Akkarin> firewalls don't do shit. they fix the occasional fuckup regarding port exposure but no more

L1876[20:56:47] <illy> speaking of XP http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1483238933.png

L1877[20:57:18] <howtonotwin> USER session?

L1878[20:57:22] <howtonotwin> gl with networking

L1879[20:57:23] <howtonotwin> :P

L1880[20:57:35] <RandomX45> pffff

L1881[20:57:47] <LexMobile> Firewalls are NOT security, they are doors, they are ment to absorb the flood and let a bit through.

L1882[20:57:48] <Akkarin> It's like that stupid expensive insurance somebody sold you on your stupid tablet when you bought it at some smallass sotre

L1883[20:57:52] <Akkarin> s/sotre/store

L1884[20:58:09] <Akkarin> well flooding only is absorbed to some extend

L1885[20:58:15] <Akkarin> if it's too big for your pipes you're doomed

L1886[20:58:17] <illy> howtonotwin: networking runs fine surprisingly

L1887[20:58:29] <LexMobile> yup, they arnt perfect and they provide little protection

L1888[20:58:32] <RandomX45> firewalls are hilarious when you fry them and suddenly they block -everything-

L1889[20:58:40] <Akkarin> gosh I should go to bed my typing is just fucked at this point

L1890[20:58:47] <howtonotwin> I can never get virtualization to work properly for me...

L1891[20:59:01] <howtonotwin> oh well

L1892[20:59:03] <Akkarin> only 4 AM X)

L1893[20:59:07] <LexMobile> point is to distribute some of the load.

L1894[20:59:23] <Akkarin> well firewalls don't do the deed on distribution usually

L1895[20:59:49] <Akkarin> at least not in the general sense

L1896[20:59:50] <RandomX45> firewalls are just made to be a specific tool to provide a specific kind of security

L1897[21:00:10] <RandomX45> mostly to stop some of the goofy stuff you can do with hacked TCP

L1898[21:00:13] <illy> Lex think I found a way to distribute only one binary instead of 2 per platform as long as we dont support windows xp

L1899[21:00:13] <LexMobile> "security"

L1900[21:00:17] <Akkarin> They're just there to catch your idiotic "oops I bound this to literally all interfaces " fuckups

L1901[21:00:31] <LexMobile> why would that matter?

L1902[21:00:42] <RandomX45> I don't know

L1903[21:01:06] <RandomX45> If I want secure, it never gets connected to the internet.

L1904[21:01:08] <LexMobile> why is xp special?

L1905[21:02:08] <Akkarin> I mean ... the entire idea of firewalls is to say "this is okay to pass, this isn't" ... literally the safeguard of the sloppy sysadmin

L1906[21:02:20] <illy> Im not shure if I can run the check im planning on doing. im testing right now finaly got my hands on a xp disk

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L1908[21:02:42] <illy> if it can run the check platform check*

L1909[21:02:53] <Akkarin> oh well ... god night every1 or whatever. I'm literally too wasted for anything at this point

L1910[21:02:55] <RandomX45> yes... but it can also be used to stop outsiders from doing things like port scanning your computer.

L1911[21:03:05] <Akkarin> I'll so regret this evening tomorrow X)

L1912[21:03:20] <RandomX45> or doing some goofy stuff with carefully crafted packets.

L1913[21:03:34] <Akkarin> psh port scanning is a technique without real use unless you really have open stuff you didn't mean to expose

L1914[21:03:52] <Akkarin> the things that do come up in portscans should be the things you intend to expose. no more.

L1915[21:03:56] <Akkarin> firewalls don#t change that

L1916[21:04:33] <Akkarin> I guess at best you could toss some rules in a smarter implementation to hotfix software bugs if you really wanted to

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L1918[21:05:20] <Akkarin> e.g. "oops my DNS server responds to monlist, toss all requests to that"

L1919[21:06:24] <howtonotwin> This minesweeper window is a surprisingly accurate way of measuring my cognitive functions

L1920[21:06:27] <howtonotwin> I like it

L1921[21:06:48] <illy> Lex also found a way to get the installer working the way you wanted just I just need to get a few things cleaned up

L1922[21:07:17] <RandomX45> Would you do better if your minesweeper game deleted system32 if you hit a mine

L1923[21:07:26] <howtonotwin> no

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L1925[21:07:33] <howtonotwin> I would scream

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L1927[21:20:54] <LexMobile> mm there should be SOME way to check the bit-ness in winxp

L1928[21:21:12] <LexMobile> wait do they even make a 64bit xp jre?

L1929[21:21:16] <illy> damn this product key is bad

L1930[21:21:32] <Lord_Ralex> mojang at least shares one iirc, no idea where they got it from

L1931[21:22:23] <illy> oracle dropped support for it

L1932[21:22:39] <LexMobile> Google Windows XP Black

L1933[21:22:47] <LexMobile> Best i use for testing.

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L1936[21:30:51] <RandomX45> you also have a Windows XP64

L1937[21:31:10] <RandomX45> which is separate from windows XP

L1938[21:32:19] <illy> bah to many windows versions of windows :P

L1939[21:33:38] <illy> pacaur -S unrar

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L1945[22:03:14] <Disconsented> https://gist.github.com/disconsented/5c1278f975fd83a5d3270d1527236d42 ideas on how to resolve this?

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L1947[22:12:09] <howtonotwin> You can do it the command block way :P

L1948[22:12:23] <howtonotwin> spawn marker armor stand onto target entity

L1949[22:12:35] <howtonotwin> then for all marked entities apply potion effect

L1950[22:12:39] <Disconsented> I would rather pull over my tasking system

L1951[22:12:43] <howtonotwin> (don't; i kid)

L1952[22:14:39] <howtonotwin> Though really, that is kind of the only way to do it

L1953[22:14:46] <howtonotwin> you have to mark the entity somehow

L1954[22:14:58] <howtonotwin> and then apply the effects outside of the potion effect itself

L1955[22:15:12] <howtonotwin> not even addScheduledTask will help you

L1956[22:15:29] <howtonotwin> because if it's run on the server thread it just executes immediately

L1957[22:23:34] <quadraxis> add your own delayed task in a thread that calls addScheduledTask later?

L1958[22:26:54] <illy> LexMobile just tested it looks like it doesn't work for xp I'll see if there's another way to check. quick question does Mercurius also collect info like how many users use winxp vs win7/8/etc or does it only say windows?

L1959[22:28:02] <LexMobile> Don't know... dont think we collected is just jvm

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L1967[23:00:15] <A1b3> Hello

L1968[23:00:52] <A1b3> How can I get a Map from the config?

L1969[23:02:43] <illy> wat?

L1970[23:04:11] <A1b3> Reading a Map <String, Double> from the configuration.

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