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L2[00:02:58] <cjmat_000> so uh.. noob question, how do i use metadata in the output of recipes in 1.7.10?

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L5[00:06:33] <TehNut> Use an ItemStack

L6[00:06:45] <Ordinastie> and update

L7[00:08:13] <cjmat_000> update?

L8[00:08:18] <cjmat_000> like... my mod?

L9[00:08:25] <TehNut> yeah

L10[00:10:33] <McJty> cjmat_000, don't make mods for 1.7.10 anymore

L11[00:16:09] <cjmat_000> why cant i use enchanted books in recipes?

L12[00:17:13] <cjmat_000> i either get an enchanted book+enchantment that has no metadata and cant be used in an anvil, or an enchanted book with a metadata and no enchantment, either one cant be used

L13[00:18:59] <McJty> You can with a custom IRecipe

L14[00:24:11] <cjmat_000> another noob question. whats an irecipe? <.<

L15[00:26:33] <Ordinastie> it's an interface

L16[00:26:55] <Ordinastie> you need to make your own implementation

L17[00:29:07] <cjmat_000> oh

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L20[00:35:58] <cjmat_000> also, are the metadata of vanilla spawn eggs hardcoded in like wool or are they floating values that generate on the spot?

L21[00:36:59] <TehNut> they're NBT, not meta

L22[00:39:21] <cjmat_000> oh

L23[00:39:41] <cjmat_000> sorry, I was on a loooong hiatus

L24[00:39:54] <cjmat_000> i havent modded since minecraft was still in 1.8

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L35[01:06:59] <ayyliens> hey guys

L36[01:07:22] <ayyliens> Is there anyway to cancel sending a packet from the client?

L37[01:07:44] <ayyliens> I've been tring to search and find a solution and have not had any luck

L38[01:07:53] <killjoy> I'm not sure if there is a packet event like that

L39[01:08:08] <ayyliens> i dont belive there is

L40[01:08:13] <killjoy> the packet api you get is netty

L41[01:08:35] <killjoy> you should go make a PR about it

L42[01:08:55] <killjoy> or maybe an issue

L43[01:09:51] <ayyliens> Would netty have some sort of interface to allow me to delgate what packets I let send off to the server?

L44[01:10:23] <killjoy> what packets are you wanting to cancel?

L45[01:11:12] <ayyliens> movement packets

L46[01:11:24] <killjoy> any reason?

L47[01:11:32] <ayyliens> Freecam mod

L48[01:11:35] <killjoy> I know there's movement events

L49[01:12:19] <killjoy> you could probably replace the mc.player field or maybe just the playerController

L50[01:12:40] <ayyliens> I had that going

L51[01:12:49] <ayyliens> but with issues

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L53[01:14:35] <killjoy> Well that's the only way I can think of doing it cleanly.

L54[01:15:08] <killjoy> I can think of lots of ways to do it dirty :p

L55[01:15:23] <Ordinastie> render a fake player at the position and don't render the actual player

L56[01:15:26] <ayyliens> yeah

L57[01:15:29] <ayyliens> ill paste my code

L58[01:15:33] <ayyliens> see if anyone can help

L59[01:16:47] <ayyliens> https://coderpad.io/FQAT3TN4

L60[01:17:35] <killjoy> can you ust gist?

L61[01:17:45] <ayyliens> this is real time doe

L62[01:17:51] <killjoy> Watching a stream of your code isn't that great

L63[01:18:08] <ayyliens> you can edit too

L64[01:18:10] <killjoy> You're.. extending Mod?

L65[01:18:17] <ayyliens> its my base class

L66[01:18:42] <Ordinastie> you have a "Mymod" class too? ôO

L67[01:19:00] <ayyliens> yeah that i renamed

L68[01:19:01] <ayyliens> lol

L69[01:19:03] <killjoy> What's all this stuff?

L70[01:19:09] <killjoy> Are you coding ModLoader?

L71[01:19:17] <ayyliens> that is already done

L72[01:20:32] <killjoy> I'm going to be thinking of this as the zombes freecam mod

L73[01:20:39] <ayyliens> yeah

L74[01:20:42] <ayyliens> what im going for

L75[01:21:04] <killjoy> you made this class?

L76[01:21:08] <ayyliens> yep

L77[01:21:14] <killjoy> and targetting Forge?

L78[01:21:20] <ayyliens> yesir

L79[01:21:28] <killjoy> extends Mod isn't how you do this.

L80[01:21:39] <killjoy> That's how you do modloader

L81[01:21:50] <ayyliens> nonon the "Mod" class is mine

L82[01:21:55] <ayyliens> might not have the best name

L83[01:22:00] <killjoy> yeah..

L84[01:22:08] <ayyliens> I should refactor it

L85[01:22:08] <killjoy> unless you include imports, I'm going to be assuming classes

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L87[01:23:08] <ayyliens> so currently when I run this

L88[01:23:18] <ayyliens> i am switching views

L89[01:23:30] <killjoy> you should probably also refactor onEnable

L90[01:23:34] <ayyliens> but the new tempPlayer can not look around

L91[01:23:42] <killjoy> To me, that means when the mod is loaded

L92[01:23:43] <ayyliens> he can move wasd

L93[01:24:00] <killjoy> That's how it worked in zombes

L94[01:24:08] <ayyliens> you couldnt look around?

L95[01:24:09] <killjoy> I think

L96[01:24:38] <killjoy> maybe I was mixing flymods or something

L97[01:25:47] <Ordinastie> maybe copy over the player velocity onto your cam entity and reset the player one ?

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L101[01:39:00] <ayyliens> how is the Vector class used in lwjgl?

L102[01:39:28] <ayyliens> say i wanted something like a 3d vector

L103[01:39:38] <ayyliens> vec = Vector(0, 0, 0)

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L105[01:43:15] <killjoy> Use a Vec3i

L106[01:43:27] <killjoy> or Vec3d

L107[01:46:39] <ayyliens> holy

L108[01:46:47] <ayyliens> i didnt know you were coding up a storm

L109[01:47:24] <McJty> Is there a way to have lighting updated with public int getLightValue(IBlockState state, IBlockAccess world, BlockPos pos) without having to actually replace the block?

L110[01:47:52] <McJty> The vanilla redstone lamp has two versions (lit and not lit) but that's annoying

L111[01:47:56] <killjoy> I did it in my IDE

L112[01:48:06] <killjoy> and it's just empty methods.

L113[01:48:08] <killjoy> nothing special

L114[01:49:11] <ayyliens> so the idea is to replace the current players playerController with a dummy class that doesnt send packets?

L115[01:49:19] <killjoy> most packets

L116[01:49:24] <killjoy> some you'll still want to do.

L117[01:49:27] <killjoy> things related to guis.

L118[01:49:30] <ayyliens> yeah

L119[01:49:31] <killjoy> and your hotbar

L120[01:49:48] <ayyliens> namely stop the sending of movment packets let the rest go

L121[01:50:04] <killjoy> movement doesn't seem to be handled through the playerController

L122[01:52:03] <ayyliens> seems like its done in EntityPlayerSP

L123[01:52:21] <ayyliens> ~270

L124[01:52:51] <killjoy> line numbers must be different than me (vanilla class)

L125[01:53:13] <ayyliens> onUpdateWalkingPlayer

L126[01:53:15] <ayyliens> method

L127[01:53:24] <killjoy> yeah.

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L129[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161222 mappings to Forge Maven.

L130[02:00:07] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20161222-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20161222" in build.gradle).

L131[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L149[03:55:29] <killjoy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcupbk6mobQ

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L185[07:06:37] <Tencao> What would be the best way to completely nuke villager trading

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L207[09:04:36] <Genuine> Why are you using Google predicates still Minecraft? Let me use the java Predicates! guiTextField.setValidator(Pattern.compile("[x#]?[0-9a-fA-F]{,8}").asPredicate());

L208[09:04:53] <gigaherz|work> because those are java8

L209[09:05:02] <gigaherz|work> and mc is still compiled with java6

L210[09:05:07] <gigaherz|work> and even if they do switch

L211[09:05:12] <gigaherz|work> the code is already written

L212[09:05:33] <gigaherz|work> they won't just change all the predicate uses unless they need to

L213[09:06:52] <barteks2x> ... and this is what I got after attempting to solve a "simple" problem alanytically for my gui code: z = ((c - d)*(c - d)*(-1 + f*lb - g*lb))/(-c*c + 2*c*d - d*d - f*f + 2*f*g - g*g + c*c*f*lb - 2*c*d*f*lb + d*d*f*lb + c*f*f*lb - d*f*f*lb - c*c*g*lb + 2*c*d*g*lb - d*d*g*lb - 2*c*f*g*lb + 2*d*f*g*lb + c*g*g*lb - d*g*g*lb);

L214[09:08:42] <gigaherz|work> that expression is horribly redundant XD

L215[09:08:57] <barteks2x> generated by wolfram alpha and modified by me until it compiled in java

L216[09:09:41] <Genuine> Do you really think I don't know that? Stop compiling your game with a version you don't even bundle with the game. They are literally bundling with Java 8. The only places left that maybe aren't Java 8 are servers. I just don't know why they even bothered switching over to 3rd party libraries to handle what was going to be vanilla Java functionality.

L217[09:10:59] <barteks2x> there is no way I would be able to solve this (1-letter names because too long): b^c/(p - z) == (b^c (-c + d) Log[b])/(1 - p), b^f/(-n + z) == (b^f (-f + g) Log[b])/n, (1 - p) (d - c) == n (g - f) (this is after simplifying it)

L218[09:11:29] <barteks2x> and this is all for a stupid slider

L219[09:14:28] <g> goo.gl/JgPkFrcontent_copyCopy short URL

L220[09:14:32] <g> ..why'd it copy that text

L221[09:14:32] <g> lol

L222[09:14:42] <g> http://goo.gl/JgPkFr

L223[09:15:01] <gigaherz|work> barteks2x: z = ((c-d)*(c-d)*(-1 + (f-g)*lb)) / (-c*c + 2*c*d - d*d - f*f + 2*f*g - g*g + (c-d)*lb*(c*f - d*f + f*f - c*g + d*g - 2*f*g + g*g));

L224[09:15:12] <gigaherz|work> that's just a first step in simplifying your first paste XD

L225[09:15:57] <barteks2x> it took me a few hours to get it at all and no idea if it's anywhere close to correct

L226[09:16:40] <barteks2x> here, z is supposed to be between 0 and 1 and should be the zero position of the slider

L227[09:16:55] <gigaherz|work> wat

L228[09:17:50] <barteks2x> the slider has 2 linear parts and 2 exponential parts

L229[09:18:07] <barteks2x> one pair for positive part and one for negative

L230[09:18:52] <barteks2x> the idea is that the transition between linear and exponential part should be at just the right place so that derivative of the linear part is equal to derivative of exponential part at the transition point

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L232[09:19:22] <barteks2x> and the zero point should be placed so that sizes of exponential parts are proportional to size of range of their exponents

L233[09:19:27] <gigaherz|work> hmm if I did't make any mistake...

L234[09:19:28] <gigaherz|work> cd = c-d; fg = f-g; z = (cd*cd*(-1 + fg*lb)) / (-cd*cd - fg*fg + cd*lb*f*((cd+f)*f - (cd+2*f)*g));

L235[09:19:50] <gigaherz|work> no wait I did make a mistake

L236[09:20:07] <gigaherz|work> cd = c-d; fg = f-g; z = (cd*cd*(-1 + fg*lb)) / (-cd*cd - fg*fg + cd*lb*((cd+f)*f - (cd+2*f)*g));

L237[09:20:08] <g> and people wonder why I suck at math

L238[09:20:18] <Koward> What happens when a mod that defines an alias for a vanilla block is disabled/uninstalled ? The world will be broken the usual way ?

L239[09:21:33] <barteks2x> b is baseValue (the exponential part is b^x), lb is log(b) c is minExpPositive, d is maxExpPositive, e is minExpNegative, g is maxExpNegative

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L241[09:23:26] <gigaherz|work> this is the best I can manage right now XD

L242[09:23:27] <gigaherz|work> cd = c-d; fg = f-g; cd2 = cd*cd; fg2 = fg*fg; z = (cd2*(-1 + fg*lb)) / (- cd2 - fg2 + cd*lb*((cd+f)*f - (cd+f+f)*g));

L243[09:24:10] <gigaherz|work> (in terms of reducing reduncancy)

L244[09:25:16] <barteks2x> I would still like to know if my solution is correct at all

L245[09:25:23] <gigaherz|work> I have no idea

L246[09:27:46] <barteks2x> I will test it now

L247[09:28:25] <barteks2x> ... or not yet, I need to implement backwards function now (not that complicated, just calculating these 3 numbers was complicated)

L248[09:33:56] <barteks2x> z=0.500000, n=0.430923, p=0.569077 that seems to work...

L249[09:34:25] <barteks2x> (this was with symmertic negative and positive part)

L250[09:37:59] <barteks2x> so this was probably one of those rare times when I didn't make any mistake in whatever I did

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L253[09:41:21] <barteks2x> looks like there is some mistake, it works but it's reversed - increasing exponent range decreases size on slider

L254[09:42:54] <barteks2x> oh, that's because I used multiplication instead of division in one place...

L255[09:42:59] <barteks2x> right at the beginning

L256[09:43:45] <barteks2x> so now I could start over and do it properly, or I could just do z = 1-z

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L259[09:46:42] <Koward> Somebody knows how one could make a simple slab by extending BlockSlab ? It looks this class force you to use properties but I don't have that need, yet it's not nullable.

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L262[09:50:38] <PaleoCrafter> Koward, what exactly isn't nullable? if it's the property array you have to give to BlockStateContainer, just pass an empty array/nothing :P

L263[09:51:17] <Koward> BlockSlab#getVariantProperty() and BlockSlab#getTypeForItem(ItemStack).

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L265[09:52:15] <Koward> (for the BlockSlab#getUnlocalizedName(meta) I just always return Block#getUnlocalizedName() since I don't care about meta.

L266[09:53:51] <Koward> Nevermind, now I have an idea of variants so my question is useless

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L269[10:03:13] <barteks2x> After doing it correctly I also got much simpler thing: z = (-1 + f*lb - g*lb)/(-2 + c*lb - d*lb + f*lb - g*lb);

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L271[10:06:28] <barteks2x> and it also seems to work

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L277[10:28:17] <ghz|afk> barteks2x: you can extract the lb from there

L278[10:28:40] <ghz|afk> z = (-1 + (f-g)*lb)/(-2 + (c-d+f-g)*lb);

L279[10:28:49] <barteks2x> I saw it already, this is done only once in constructor so doesn't matter that much

L280[10:29:01] <barteks2x> well, once per slider

L281[10:29:05] <ghz|afk> heh

L282[10:29:17] <ghz|afk> well my "ocd" says it's wasteful ;P

L283[10:29:18] <diesieben07> and the jvm probably does that :P

L284[10:29:52] <barteks2x> I have 30-line long comment above it explaining how I got this result :D

L285[10:29:58] <diesieben07> LOL

L286[10:30:05] <barteks2x> *60lines

L287[10:30:18] <diesieben07> LOL²

L288[10:32:26] <ghz|afk> hmmm so lol is an exponential function

L289[10:32:35] <ghz|afk> double the lines -> square of the lol

L290[10:33:00] <diesieben07> definitely.

L291[10:33:42] <barteks2x> I definitely don't want to read the code half year later wondering how the hell did I get this result

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L293[10:37:38] <ghz|afk> diesieben07: hmmm geometric growth may be too extreme, we need a deci-lol

L294[10:38:23] <ghz|afk> dL = log(lol1/lol0)/10

L295[10:40:33] <Genuine> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79514/ColorPicker/color-picker-1.png 1 through 7.

L296[10:40:40] <Genuine> It's pretty well done now.

L297[10:42:02] <Genuine> 1 2 3 6 7 more like.

L298[10:43:10] <Naiten> Hi there. So, i tried drawing a string, put this http://pastebin.com/uRFpTNet into my entity render() and it does draw it

L299[10:43:30] <Naiten> But the string tends to disappear randomly when walking around

L300[10:43:43] <Naiten> The code is from vanilla fish render

L301[10:43:47] <Naiten> Any ideas?

L302[10:44:03] <williewillus> fish render? :P

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L304[10:44:28] <Naiten> williewillus, yes

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L306[10:44:33] <williewillus> what does that mean lol

L307[10:44:41] <Naiten> it actually renders fish and fishing hook

L308[10:44:46] <Naiten> and a string

L309[10:44:58] <williewillus> oh i thought you meant string as in character string lol

L310[10:45:01] <williewillus> you meant the fishing line

L311[10:45:43] <Naiten> williewillus, net.minecraft.client.renderer.entity.RenderFish

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L316[10:56:49] <Naiten> williewillus, https://youtu.be/JS64BydMkJU

L317[11:03:52] <FusionLord> is that thomas the train? xD

L318[11:04:58] <Naiten> No, it isn't

L319[11:06:22] <barteks2x> argh... I need the slider to construct converter, and I need conveter to construct slider

L320[11:06:46] <barteks2x> now I really do, and my usual workaround won't work

L321[11:07:03] <FusionLord> Naiten, checking out your channel, I love what you're doing!

L322[11:11:46] <Naiten> FusionLord, well, thanks

L323[11:12:22] <ghz|afk> barteks2x: add some intermediate object that holds the info for both?

L324[11:12:33] <FusionLord> subs++

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L326[11:12:49] <barteks2x> the problem was that the slider constructor calls the converter function that requires the slider

L327[11:12:58] <ghz|afk> well then don't

L328[11:13:00] <ghz|afk> call it later

L329[11:13:02] <ghz|afk> in some init method

L330[11:13:06] <barteks2x> it's not my slider

L331[11:13:22] <barteks2x> the slider in in malisiscore

L332[11:13:39] <ghz|afk> then you need some way to have the converter not need the slider initially

L333[11:14:22] <barteks2x> I need it to make snapping to useful values work based on slider size, so as workaround I assume constant size of 1000 pixels when there is no slider

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L335[11:15:00] <barteks2x> so I make array that contains the slider and use that array in the lambda expression

L336[11:15:10] <barteks2x> and if what it contains is null I assume value 1000

L337[11:22:19] <Genuine> I just got fired for being late too much. But in the last month I wasn't late at all except when my car got snowed in and I had a coworker pick me up.

L338[11:22:37] <ayyliens> FeelsBadMan

L339[11:25:03] <Genuine> I feel like dying.

L340[11:26:20] <diesieben07> Hugs

L341[11:26:40] <diesieben07> Life gets better

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L345[11:32:17] <barteks2x> so my slider finally works http://i.imgur.com/rgVnI1Q.gif

L346[11:38:50] <williewillus> what was wrong with using the one in vanilla? :P

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L349[11:45:23] <barteks2x> that it was linear

L350[11:45:45] <barteks2x> so I could have either very limited range or almost no control for smaller values

L351[11:46:10] <barteks2x> and it would be almost impossible to hit useful values like 64 or 128 exactly

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L353[11:50:11] <williewillus> you could transform the linear value coming out of it with some function :P but whatevs

L354[11:51:14] <barteks2x> I used slider from malisiscore, and the hard part was transoforming the value

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L356[11:51:29] <barteks2x> this is what took me q few hours to figure out

L357[11:51:42] <barteks2x> I'm still finishing it for some special cases

L358[11:54:03] <barteks2x> this is current code just for the converter: https://gist.github.com/Barteks2x/6c9c0357223d49f64258ce9660f8eebd

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L362[12:01:52] <diesieben07> lord have mery on this world. http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=44146.0

L363[12:01:57] <diesieben07> mery? sure.

L364[12:04:32] <williewillus> but then they'll have to figure out how to build forge itself lol

L365[12:12:08] <ghz|afk> wtf is up with youtube lately

L366[12:12:12] <ghz|afk> suggesting me livestreams?

L367[12:12:40] <williewillus> yay targeting?

L368[12:12:40] <ghz|afk> I MAY have watched a tiny bit of a livestream

L369[12:12:59] <ghz|afk> but it's like < 1% of my watch history

L370[12:13:20] <PaleoCrafter> come on, diesieben07, no reason to be offensive :P

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L372[12:18:08] <PaleoCrafter> I bet you that guy is going to make valuable contributions to the code, for instance: "y u so stupid and make no special case my mod" or "y u so stupid and no write Minceraft correctly?"

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L374[12:21:13] <PaleoCrafter> gah, stupid Visual Studio

L375[12:21:47] <ayyliens> Y U NOT MAKE MY MOD ALLOW ME ADMIN!

L376[12:22:45] <williewillus> well he replied

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L381[12:41:08] <ayyliens> so last night I was trying to figure out if there is a way to cancel certain packets being sent to the server

L382[12:41:57] <ayyliens> is there anything I could use to implement this

L383[12:42:04] <williewillus> why do you need that

L384[12:42:24] <ayyliens> trying to make a freecam mod

L385[12:42:38] <ayyliens> but I have been trying many other things with not luck :(

L386[12:42:41] <williewillus> why does that involve canceling movement packets

L387[12:42:58] <williewillus> you can just use another view entity right?

L388[12:43:03] <ayyliens> I'm trying that now

L389[12:43:06] <ayyliens> but having many issues

L390[12:43:31] <williewillus> you could just port the freecam from the snapshots where mojang left it in

L391[12:43:34] <williewillus> how does f5 do it?

L392[12:44:02] <ayyliens> wait is there something like that in one of the snapshots

L393[12:44:05] <ayyliens> i've never seen it

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L395[12:45:17] <williewillus> it's from a long time ago though so you probably need to put your decompilation cap on :P

L396[12:45:17] <williewillus> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Controls#Debugging_controls

L397[12:45:31] <ayyliens> oh boy :D

L398[12:46:09] <ayyliens> "deadmau5 camera"

L399[12:47:08] <williewillus> i would get that old snapshot decompile and then cross reference with a source of like 1.2.5 or something. it's so old

L400[12:48:04] <ayyliens> it's really simple to just use the packet cancelation method though but since I'm using forge I have not found a way to do that

L401[12:48:04] <williewillus> i don't know where old MCP's are located anymore though

L402[12:48:13] <williewillus> that's really hacky though

L403[12:48:32] <williewillus> what issues are you having with a separate view entity?

L404[12:48:52] <ayyliens> When I set the view to the other ent

L405[12:48:58] <ayyliens> I cant look around

L406[12:49:01] <ayyliens> but I can wasd

L407[12:49:24] <williewillus> you could capture mouse input and make the view entity move as well

L408[12:52:10] <ayyliens> gonna give that a try

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L411[13:02:14] <williewillus> what was that mod on /r/ftb or /r/mc a while back

L412[13:02:17] <williewillus> that had realistic cave reverb

L413[13:02:19] <williewillus> and stuff like that

L414[13:02:24] <williewillus> not sound filters but newer

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L416[13:03:39] <williewillus> oh found it, sound physics

L417[13:06:08] <ayyliens> so now im stuck with moving the clone ent

L418[13:06:19] <ayyliens> http://i.imgur.com/HSWpUKM.png

L419[13:06:31] <williewillus> look at how vanilla does it

L420[13:06:45] <ayyliens> you know where it is

L421[13:06:47] <williewillus> also I wouldn't use a player for the clone entity

L422[13:06:57] <williewillus> players have lots of special magic fluff around them in the engine

L423[13:07:07] <ayyliens> what would you use?

L424[13:07:08] <williewillus> just make a dummy entity

L425[13:07:13] <williewillus> uh no but do a find usages on keybindforward

L426[13:07:13] <ayyliens> oh right

L427[13:07:16] <williewillus> and you'll find it :P

L428[13:07:26] <ayyliens> thanks for your help man

L429[13:07:29] <williewillus> np

L430[13:08:44] <ayyliens> MovementInputFromOptions it seems

L431[13:09:56] <ayyliens> lol ents have a method .setMoveForward

L432[13:12:11] <williewillus> so what I would do is

L433[13:12:16] <williewillus> attach a MovementInputFromOptions to your entity

L434[13:12:19] <williewillus> just like in EPSP

L435[13:13:04] <williewillus> and copy the logic you want from EPSP by doing a find usages to see how it uses the MovementInput object

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L437[13:14:00] <ayyliens> jeez im really starting to not like intellij

L438[13:14:04] <williewillus> why not lol

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L440[13:14:18] <ayyliens> I feel like eclipse had more easier to use features

L441[13:14:26] <PaleoCrafter> tsk

L442[13:14:35] <williewillus> you mean you're not familiar yet so you don't like it :P

L443[13:14:39] <williewillus> what feature are you looking for?

L444[13:14:40] <PaleoCrafter> ^

L445[13:14:42] <ayyliens> like imports

L446[13:14:47] <williewillus> what do you mean

L447[13:14:48] <ayyliens> i cant just point in click

L448[13:14:51] <ayyliens> lmao

L449[13:14:53] <williewillus> yes you can...?

L450[13:14:56] <ayyliens> alt+enter

L451[13:14:59] <ayyliens> is what it wants me to do

L452[13:15:09] <williewillus> yes because it's more efficient to use your keyboard

L453[13:15:14] <williewillus> instead of moving back and forth to your mouse

L454[13:15:22] <ayyliens> I do agree

L455[13:15:32] <ayyliens> but then for things like errors

L456[13:15:35] <ayyliens> on a missing class

L457[13:15:59] <ayyliens> i have a hard time figuring out what the issue is

L458[13:16:07] <williewillus> what do you mean :P

L459[13:16:13] <williewillus> it highlights it in red like any other ide

L460[13:16:19] <ayyliens> yes it does

L461[13:16:22] <ayyliens> http://i.imgur.com/LDcALXN.png

L462[13:16:46] <williewillus> move your cursor to the line in red and the status bar at the bottom tells you what's wrong. hit alt+enter to see if quick fixes are available

L463[13:17:22] <ayyliens> like for instance in the case it wants the the abstract methods

L464[13:17:24] <ayyliens> implmented

L465[13:17:38] <ayyliens> but how to i just make the ide do it for me

L466[13:17:40] <williewillus> alt enter on the class delcaration generates them all for you :P

L467[13:17:51] <ayyliens> Ahhh

L468[13:18:00] <ayyliens> this alt enter thing is whats messing with me

L469[13:18:11] <williewillus> so basically the keybind's are different lol

L470[13:18:12] <ayyliens> just moved like 3 days ago to intellij

L471[13:18:18] <williewillus> welcome haha

L472[13:18:29] <ayyliens> well in eclipse I would just mouse over and point and click

L473[13:18:39] <ayyliens> kinda tought me a bad habbit i suppose

L474[13:23:20] <PaleoCrafter> iirc you can actually hover in IDEA too :P

L475[13:23:26] <PaleoCrafter> it'll display a small error icon you can hover

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L477[13:23:36] <ayyliens> it seems flakey though

L478[13:23:54] <ayyliens> it never seems to appear consistently for me

L479[13:24:06] <PaleoCrafter> just get used to only using your keyboard :P

L480[13:24:12] <PaleoCrafter> that's the most effective

L481[13:24:13] <ayyliens> I will

L482[13:26:36] <ayyliens> also

L483[13:26:44] <ayyliens> hotswap

L484[13:26:57] <ayyliens> how to I turn it on automatically

L485[13:27:13] <ayyliens> rn i have to manually run > reload changes

L486[13:29:08] <PaleoCrafter> search for "make project automatically" in your settings

L487[13:29:14] <PaleoCrafter> actually, nvm

L488[13:36:45] <LexManos> anyone seen illy?

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L490[13:40:04] <PaleoCrafter> I'd say no, but I haven't been around for some time as well :P

L491[13:41:04] <LexManos> http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=44146.msg235693#new *facepalm*

L492[13:42:46] <PaleoCrafter> at least it'll look better when Flame finally gets to finish off the new forums :P

L493[13:43:01] <ayyliens> New forums eh?

L494[13:43:08] <ayyliens> what are yall moving to

L495[13:43:13] <McJty> Lex, oh my

L496[13:43:27] <McJty> Humanity never ceases to amaze me

L497[13:43:29] <McJty> Usually in bad ways

L498[13:44:13] <LexManos> I think we're moving to IPB.

L499[13:44:22] <ayyliens> :(

L500[13:44:30] <LexManos> Transfers done Flame just needs to finish it, there may be some loss the longer he delays.

L501[13:44:45] <LexManos> but im in no hurry gunna bug him after new years

L502[13:45:06] <LexManos> http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=44147.0 Same guy.. same stupid shit...

L503[13:45:42] <Ashindigo> "Bad code quality"

L504[13:45:50] <Ashindigo> "I dont see it"

L505[13:45:59] <PaleoCrafter> it's IPB, yeah

L506[13:46:04] <Ashindigo> Ive seen the horrid shit mcreator spits out

L507[13:46:25] <LexManos> he has no idea what any real programming language

L508[13:46:41] <LexManos> he spouts that hes excelent at programming cuz he can do batch SCRIPTS.

L509[13:46:46] <LexManos> u.u some people...

L510[13:46:49] <ayyliens> ^ LMAO

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L512[13:46:56] <ayyliens> but lex I am dank batch scripter

L513[13:47:01] <ayyliens> plz give me ur code

L514[13:47:21] <ayyliens> IPB looks not too bad

L515[13:47:29] <ayyliens> https://discussion.evernote.com/forum/244-education/

L516[13:47:32] <ayyliens> they use it

L517[13:47:55] <ayyliens> and bethesda too

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L519[13:50:04] <LexManos> Its a popular one.

L520[13:50:13] <LexManos> Its what I used back in the say for SB.

L521[13:50:23] <ayyliens> that and xenforo

L522[13:50:35] <ayyliens> which im really a fan of

L523[13:50:36] <LexManos> Plus, getting it profeshionally moved means we can move away from the rats nest we currently have

L524[13:50:38] <ayyliens> not*

L525[13:51:09] <ayyliens> so it's a managed forum from IPB then?

L526[13:51:21] <ayyliens> err, maybe the migration process?

L527[13:51:31] <PaleoCrafter> I still need to tweak the stylesheet a bit, but I'm waiting for Flame to provide me with the assets server xD

L528[13:51:34] <LexManos> just the migration we'll still host it all

L529[13:51:57] <ayyliens> @PaleoCrafter got any pics?

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L532[13:53:32] <PaleoCrafter> http://i.imgur.com/oQn2feG.png light http://i.imgur.com/5go1BPa.png dark

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L534[13:53:57] <Flamegoat> I’ve been validating data - holidays make things difficult :]

L535[13:53:59] <ayyliens> ooooooooo

L536[13:54:00] <PaleoCrafter> don't mind that butterfly in the bottom left corner :P

L537[13:54:08] <PaleoCrafter> no worries, Flamegoat, I still have other projects :D

L538[13:54:31] <Flamegoat> Had to have a few adjustments to converter/import process.

L539[13:54:39] <Flamegoat> We’ve got… a lot of stuff :D

L540[13:54:54] <LexManos> ya we do

L541[13:55:14] <LexManos> btw you should send me your invoice sometime, just got paid so bills can go out.

L542[13:55:28] <ayyliens> When are the new forums projected to release?

L543[13:55:30] <Flamegoat> I should do work then Kappa

L544[13:55:43] <ayyliens> PogChamp

L545[13:55:56] <Flamegoat> @ayyliens I wanted before Christmas, but they people helping bailed for the holidays. Slackers.

L546[13:56:10] <LexManos> twats

L547[13:56:12] <Flamegoat> So shortly after - will be bringing in the new year with shinyness

L548[13:56:39] <ayyliens> @Flamegoat, that sux man. Are you a freelancer working on this project or with a company?

L549[13:56:55] <ayyliens> IPB im assuming

L550[13:56:58] <Flamegoat> Lol no.

L551[13:57:08] <ayyliens> topkek

L552[13:57:18] <Flamegoat> Contracted with Forge homie.

L553[13:57:23] <Flamegoat> Have been since Feb :]

L554[13:57:29] <Flamegoat> Ish? Somewhere around there.

L555[13:57:36] <ayyliens> That's neato

L556[13:58:15] <Flamegoat> But I went and got myself a job, moved 2k miles, and well. Haven’t been as active last few months.

L557[13:58:42] <LexManos> Sadly Forge doesn't make enough to be able to pay him exclusivly ;P

L558[13:58:52] <ayyliens> How does forge even make money

L559[13:58:59] <Flamegoat> I GENERALLY keep things running. Generally

L560[13:58:59] <LexManos> Like i'd want him full time tho... imagine it, Flame all day every day....

L561[13:59:01] <ayyliens> Surely the ad links are not enough

L562[13:59:04] <Flamegoat> Hahaha

L563[13:59:08] <Flamegoat> I’d get .3% more done!

L564[13:59:28] <LexManos> ads are the only way I make money

L565[13:59:44] <LexManos> well I also do some personal non-minecraft related tech work IRL

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L567[13:59:49] <Flamegoat> Ads keep it simple, and relatively unobtrusive ads don’t bother people too much :]

L568[14:00:22] <ayyliens> fix my computer plz lex

L569[14:00:30] <Flamegoat> I’m not sure that’s how that works.

L570[14:00:34] <ayyliens> Lol

L571[14:02:18] <PaleoCrafter> I'd like to test out those responsive ads at some point btw, Flamegoat :P

L572[14:03:34] <ayyliens> Adsenses responsive ads are annoying, they only scale on load

L573[14:03:55] <Flamegoat> Rather get it running, make sure we don’t destroy revenue and THEN tweak lol.

L574[14:04:13] <LexManos> .me votes for that -^

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L576[14:05:14] <Flamegoat> Ideally, the ads will perform better - just do to improvements to the site and placement. Gives us room for that tweaking.

L577[14:05:43] <PaleoCrafter> the sizes I've selected for the current placeholders get the most ads according to Google, so

L578[14:08:55] <ghz|afk> finally -- managedto get my game compiling and running on android with unity 5.5

L579[14:09:16] <ghz|afk> it has a few glitches (music doesn't play, and sometextures are black), but the game is playable

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L581[14:10:04] <PaleoCrafter> nice

L582[14:10:30] <Koward> How are different isFullCube and isFullBlock ?

L583[14:10:53] <LexManos> neither have anything to do with being 'full'

L584[14:11:01] <ayyliens> lol

L585[14:11:06] <Flamegoat> Makes perfect sense.

L586[14:11:21] <LexManos> IIRC once for physics and ones for light.

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L588[14:11:56] <diesieben07> isFullBlock is kinda like "is this solid, can an entity stand on it"

L589[14:12:11] <ayyliens> you'd think from the method name it would allow you to isFullBlock(slab) = false

L590[14:12:23] <Koward> So isFullBlock(slab) == true ?

L591[14:12:28] <Koward> What the hell

L592[14:12:30] <ayyliens> idk

L593[14:12:32] <Flamegoat> diesieben07: funny story. You’re one of the reasons I had to go back and forth with the forum conversions. It kept banning you on the new forum.

L594[14:12:41] <diesieben07> o.O

L595[14:12:46] <diesieben07> why? :D

L596[14:12:54] <Flamegoat> You were banned at some point. And it was failing to expire that ban.

L597[14:12:55] <Flamegoat> Lol

L598[14:12:58] <LexManos> IT KNOWS!

L599[14:13:06] <diesieben07> lol ah

L600[14:13:16] <diesieben07> i think luacs did that once because he thought i was going insane :D

L601[14:13:21] <Flamegoat> :D :D :D

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L604[14:15:03] <LexManos> oh dem twatnuggets

L605[14:15:10] * PaleoCrafter goes to abuse his administrative rights to actually ban diesieben07 on the new forums

L606[14:15:11] * PaleoCrafter runs

L607[14:15:35] <diesieben07> You can deal with the "twatnuggets" then paleo :P

L608[14:15:48] * LexManos is talking about mojang

L609[14:16:00] <diesieben07> i just liked the word

L610[14:16:04] <LexManos> 90% of the 1.11.1 change is adding a new param to some functions.

L611[14:16:15] <LexManos> Fortunatly looks like they added it to the END

L612[14:16:25] <PaleoCrafter> what's the param do?:P

L613[14:16:41] <LexManos> no idea yet havent decompiled

L614[14:17:04] <kashike> 1.11.2 is out

L615[14:17:43] <LexManos> I know, but its easier to do smaller updates

L616[14:17:50] <kashike> ah right

L617[14:17:52] <LexManos> so mapping 1.11.1 before i do 1.11.2

L618[14:20:21] <Ashindigo> So say my mod adds one command, is there a way to only make it required on the server?

L619[14:20:34] <LexManos> like 6

L620[14:20:55] <LexManos> @Mod is your friend

L621[14:24:42] <barteks2x> why updates come out always when I'm in the middle of making some bigger change...

L622[14:24:58] <LexManos> ah, the new paraeter for func 185908 is to tell the block NOT to check its surroundings for it's 'real' state.

L623[14:25:15] <LexManos> !gm 185908

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L625[14:27:35] <LexManos> ohh new debug rendering!

L626[14:30:57] <Ashindigo> Oh that was it... Thanks lex

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L633[14:42:53] <killjoy> Guess I won't be on xbox live this holiday

L634[14:42:56] <killjoy> It's free

L635[14:43:05] <ayyliens> lol

L636[14:44:42] <barteks2x> when I have size of some gui thing, how could I get real size of that thing in pixels instead of the scaled size?

L637[14:45:00] <killjoy> use ScaledResolution

L638[14:45:02] <LexManos> !gm func_176213_c

L639[14:45:28] <barteks2x> how exactly would I use it?

L640[14:45:43] <killjoy> new ScaledResolution(mc)

L641[14:45:57] <killjoy> you can get the scale from it.

L642[14:46:11] <killjoy> sr.getScaleFactor() * width

L643[14:46:16] <barteks2x> ... I just need to get amount of real pixels that is dynamically updated as I resize GUI

L644[14:46:43] <barteks2x> the lambda expression that does it is already too complicated as it is

L645[14:46:51] <killjoy> post code

L646[14:47:09] <PaleoCrafter> the great thing about lambdas is composability :P

L647[14:47:18] <PaleoCrafter> or well, first class functions

L648[14:47:48] <barteks2x> d -> wrappedSlider[0] == null ? 0.0001f : (1.0/wrappedSlider[0].getWidth())*0.5 this is the whole thing, the wrapped part is a hack to get around the part where to create the lambda I need the slider and to create slider I need the lambda

L649[14:48:04] <barteks2x> this will actually give me half of size of pixel

L650[14:48:23] <barteks2x> d is not used here, but can be used

L651[14:48:42] <barteks2x> I use it to round slider value to more useful values

L652[14:48:58] <killjoy> change 0.5 to sr.getScaleFactor()

L653[14:48:58] <barteks2x> but the pixel I'm getting is bigger than it really is because of scaling

L654[14:49:09] <PaleoCrafter> if wrappedSlider stored Optionals, it'd be a lot nicer :P

L655[14:49:25] <LexManos> !gm func_146203_f

L656[14:49:35] <barteks2x> if there was mutable optional, I wouldn't need array

L657[14:49:38] <killjoy> idea yells at me for using Optional in a field

L658[14:49:53] <killjoy> He means Optional<?>[]

L659[14:50:10] <barteks2x> so another unchecked warning

L660[14:50:10] <PaleoCrafter> maybe because it'd be nullable, killjoy? :P

L661[14:50:16] <barteks2x> because type erasure

L662[14:50:25] <PaleoCrafter> well, what does the array store right now? :P

L663[14:50:47] <barteks2x> actually, it does store generic, UISlider<?> from malisiscore

L664[14:50:57] <barteks2x> *UISlider<Float>

L665[14:51:24] <barteks2x> will ScaledResolution update as I change window size?

L666[14:51:35] <barteks2x> or do I need to create new one each tome to see it update?

L667[14:51:41] <killjoy> create a new one

L668[14:53:00] <barteks2x> but that would mean I would create potentially hundreds of these objects each time I change slider value by 1 pixel

L669[14:53:20] <killjoy> What's this slider do again?

L670[14:53:59] <barteks2x> It's exponential slider, with negative and positive part (and linear part) that also rounds to the closest value withing half pixel distane that is multiple of the highest power of 2

L671[14:54:08] <PaleoCrafter> eden space is negligible GC wise :P

L672[14:54:14] <killjoy> so it just sets a value?

L673[14:54:35] <barteks2x> The slider is in worldgen config options

L674[14:54:55] <killjoy> you should only need to create a new ScaledResolution every time it's rendered

L675[14:55:02] <barteks2x> And I was already worried about performance of this thing without allocating any objects there

L676[14:55:16] <barteks2x> And the function that would use ScaledResolution doesn't know when something is rendered

L677[14:55:34] <killjoy> Don't you know what they say you should do to optimize your code?

L678[14:56:20] <barteks2x> Have you seed the slider code?

L679[14:56:30] <PaleoCrafter> measure before stating shit, dammit :P

L680[14:56:31] <barteks2x> (actuallyy the converter code, which is what makes it exponential)

L681[14:57:18] <PaleoCrafter> that should be a simple functioN? :P

L682[14:57:24] <killjoy> Here's how I use it. https://github.com/killjoy1221/TabbyChat-2/blob/e61f2ea99f84f3c0e98ed191ebfdce037229f272/src/main/java/mnm/mods/tabbychat/gui/ChatBox.java#L105

L683[14:57:43] <killjoy> (git.io is erroring on me)

L684[15:01:38] <barteks2x> It's not

L685[15:01:47] <barteks2x> it looks like this: https://gist.github.com/Barteks2x/6c9c0357223d49f64258ce9660f8eebd

L686[15:02:05] <PaleoCrafter> jesus christ

L687[15:02:58] * killjoy has no idea what any of those methods do

L688[15:03:05] <LexManos> !gm func_191514_d

L689[15:03:14] <LexManos> !gf field_71460_t

L690[15:03:23] <barteks2x> notice that most of them are private

L691[15:04:08] <killjoy> Why do you need a builder?

L692[15:04:28] <barteks2x> Because I don't like constructor with 3+ int/float/number arguments

L693[15:04:34] <killjoy> fair 'nuf

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L695[15:04:49] <killjoy> and overloading the constructor wasn't good either?

L696[15:04:59] <PaleoCrafter> or using a language supporting named arguments :P

L697[15:05:07] <barteks2x> I mean that I would have no idea what each argument is looking at the code that uses it

L698[15:05:19] <killjoy> what?

L699[15:05:38] <barteks2x> new ExponentialSlider(0, 10, 0, 10, true) woudln't tell me much

L700[15:05:50] <killjoy> use javadocs

L701[15:05:55] <barteks2x> or new ExponentialSlider(2, 0, 10, 0, 10, true)

L702[15:06:13] <barteks2x> that's not the point

L703[15:06:15] <killjoy> intellij will insert labels for literal parameters

L704[15:06:34] <barteks2x> the point is that you won't see what these numbers mean without looking at the constructor first

L705[15:06:39] <barteks2x> or at javadoc

L706[15:07:05] <PaleoCrafter> you could add comments xD

L707[15:07:48] <barteks2x> and I'm going to add one feature that isn't there

L708[15:07:56] <barteks2x> that would require varargs in constructor

L709[15:08:21] <PaleoCrafter> and that's bad?

L710[15:08:24] <barteks2x> so you could potentially have new ExponentialConverter(2, 0, 10, 0, 10, true, 5, 10)

L711[15:09:57] <barteks2x> and this kind of constructor is just bad. If I wanted to create variable/constant for each argument, I could as well use builder, and it would be the same amount of code

L712[15:10:47] <PaleoCrafter> again, use a language that supports named arguments :P

L713[15:10:49] <PaleoCrafter> there's a plethora

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L715[15:11:20] <barteks2x> because porting 20000 lines of code to different language is a good idea...

L716[15:11:28] <PaleoCrafter> sure

L717[15:11:49] <PaleoCrafter> depending on the language you choose, you won't have to change that much :P

L718[15:11:55] <barteks2x> especially when parts of your code need to be very well optimized

L719[15:12:06] <barteks2x> and when you use Mixin

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L722[15:12:51] <fry> there are languages that have mixins :P

L723[15:12:58] <PaleoCrafter> fry \o/

L724[15:13:04] <fry> me \o/

L725[15:13:08] <barteks2x> but not ones that support what the sponge mixins can do

L726[15:13:24] <barteks2x> ie. injections, redirects, overwrite etc

L727[15:13:53] <barteks2x> I use mixin more as more readable asm than as mixins

L728[15:14:12] <fry> injection = call super + other code, redirect = override, owerwrite = override? :D

L729[15:14:40] <barteks2x> redirect will replace method call inside target method with your method

L730[15:14:55] <barteks2x> injection will add call to your method at specified place

L731[15:15:13] <barteks2x> and overwrite will replace a method

L732[15:15:54] <LexManos> !gf field_190929_cY

L733[15:15:55] <killjoy> There's also accessor

L734[15:16:00] <barteks2x> I have no idea how that would work in other languages

L735[15:16:03] <killjoy> new in 0.6

L736[15:16:12] <PaleoCrafter> AspectJ has this partially :P

L737[15:16:17] <barteks2x> what is that?

L738[15:16:31] <killjoy> It's an easier way to do something that's already possible

L739[15:16:49] <killjoy> it implies a @Shadow field and gets it

L740[15:16:53] <killjoy> or sets it

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L742[15:17:41] <barteks2x> wait, what? I don't think I understand, because the way I understand it annotation processor can't do that without hacks

L743[15:17:54] <killjoy> it's implied by the transformer

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L745[15:18:11] <killjoy> gist

L746[15:18:18] <killjoy> oops

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L751[15:21:52] <killjoy> https://gist.github.com/killjoy1221/954f381b2a2bf00911291e47028b25cd

L752[15:22:16] <barteks2x> ah, this kind of thing

L753[15:22:18] <killjoy> It's another alternative to access transformers

L754[15:22:21] <barteks2x> that will be useful

L755[15:22:52] <barteks2x> it will save me, like, 4 lines of code

L756[15:23:16] <killjoy> or 1 if you inline things

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L758[15:24:05] <barteks2x> looks like sliders not being smoothnis vanilla thing, not fault of my code

L759[15:24:13] <barteks2x> I thought it was my rounding that did it

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L770[15:51:24] <barteks2x> I sometimes hate that Minecraft fonts are so big... http://i.imgur.com/5HCBlqt.png

L771[15:53:42] <ghz|afk> you can make them smaller

L772[15:53:50] <ghz|afk> it takes a bit of math ;P

L773[15:54:12] <ghz|afk> and it will be inconsistent

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L775[15:54:38] <ghz|afk> in my Guidebook mod

L776[15:54:39] <barteks2x> So I want the last 5 options to be somehow grouped together in consistent way...

L777[15:54:51] <ghz|afk> I copy-edited some of the "ScaledResolution" logic

L778[15:54:57] <ghz|afk> but with a twist

L779[15:54:59] <barteks2x> and I really don't see how to do it without eithe rthe text not fitting or one slider taking the whole width

L780[15:55:03] <ghz|afk> I can give my code a scale factor

L781[15:55:11] <ghz|afk> so that, if I say 0.6

L782[15:55:25] <ghz|afk> it will try to find a "gui scale" that is 60% or less, of the total scale size

L783[15:55:49] <ghz|afk> then I fix up the margins, etc, to transform from the old gui scale to the new

L784[15:55:51] <barteks2x> the thing is that I want it to look similar to vanilla

L785[15:55:59] <barteks2x> mostly

L786[15:56:08] <ghz|afk> another option then

L787[15:56:15] <ghz|afk> put the description above the slider

L788[15:56:20] <ghz|afk> and make only the number appear in the slider

L789[15:56:35] <ghz|afk> it iwll be vanilla-enough

L790[15:56:45] <barteks2x> and that completely screws my GridLayout

L791[15:57:23] * ghz|afk shrugs

L792[15:57:28] <barteks2x> because height of label the text will be different tha height of the slider

L793[15:57:30] <ghz|afk> you have to sacrifice something

L794[15:58:13] <ghz|afk> as I see it, you have 3 options... well 4

L795[15:58:24] <ghz|afk> 1. put less sliders per row

L796[15:58:26] <ghz|afk> 2. make the font smaller

L797[15:58:41] <ghz|afk> 3. move the labels above the sliders

L798[15:59:00] <ghz|afk> 4. shorten the labels somehow

L799[15:59:25] <barteks2x> shortening the labels would be ideal, but may not be possible at all in many languages

L800[15:59:42] <ghz|afk> I'd probably do 3.

L801[15:59:47] <ghz|afk> but not just the bottom ones

L802[15:59:48] <ghz|afk> I'd have like

L803[15:59:53] <ghz|afk> Y var

L804[16:00:15] <ghz|afk> [ factor |][ sp. |][ offset |]

L805[16:00:18] <barteks2x> the fill name would be "Height variation vactor"

L806[16:00:21] <barteks2x> *full

L807[16:00:24] <ghz|afk> height:

L808[16:00:32] <ghz|afk> [factor][offset]

L809[16:00:38] <barteks2x> the Y var. sp. in the code is actually specialHeightVariationFactorBelowAverageY

L810[16:00:44] <ghz|afk> Water:

L811[16:00:47] <ghz|afk> [ level ]

L812[16:00:52] <ghz|afk> wtc

L813[16:00:55] <ghz|afk> etc*

L814[16:01:05] <barteks2x> oh, I like that approach

L815[16:02:58] <barteks2x> but that will definitelyy take a while to do with my layout, especially when sliders have to stay 20 pixels high because otherwise they render broken

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L817[16:04:51] <ghz|afk> hmmm

L818[16:05:21] <ghz|afk> so, forge for 1.11.2, i guess it probably won't happen until next year?

L819[16:07:00] <PaleoCrafter> Lex was working on 1.11.1 earlier, ghz|afk :P

L820[16:07:28] <ghz|afk> ah nice

L821[16:07:36] <ghz|afk> i thought he'd be too busy moving ;P

L822[16:08:49] <ghz|afk> wat

L823[16:09:06] <ghz|afk> ah nevermind

L824[16:09:14] <ghz|afk> the fireworks don't push you unless the elytra is actually enabled

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L829[16:29:15] <williewillus> hm

L830[16:29:37] <williewillus> so I have a projectile that I want to do stuff (tm) when it gets fired upwards and it flies past y 256

L831[16:29:44] <williewillus> but at around y 220 they just lose all their motion

L832[16:29:49] <williewillus> and hang in midair

L833[16:31:17] <ghz|afk> o_O

L834[16:31:21] <williewillus> oh lol

L835[16:31:23] <williewillus> derp

L836[16:31:29] <williewillus> throwables apply drag

L837[16:31:57] <barteks2x> I made my layout work with things that don't need to have the same height

L838[16:39:32] <Ashindigo> !gm func_72788_a 1.7.10

L839[16:40:26] <Ashindigo> !gm func_71190_q 1.7.10

L840[16:44:41] <barteks2x> worked perfectly http://i.imgur.com/fM9xsbh.png

L841[16:45:10] <Ashindigo> Looks nice!

L842[16:47:43] <barteks2x> the screenshot is about the smallest window size that isn't scaled to "everything is tiny"

L843[16:48:33] <kashike> barteks2x: did you mean width? they all look the same height to me

L844[16:48:50] <barteks2x> labels have different height

L845[16:49:54] <barteks2x> width is already handled by my grid layout

L846[16:50:32] <barteks2x> (it may not look like it but it is a grid, with 6 columns)

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L879[18:34:19] <Shambling> is there a trick to getting gradle to download dependencies? Its telling me 403 forbidden, but I can literally type the link it just spit at me and it downloads the pom file just fine

L880[18:38:00] <killjoy> what's the repo

L881[18:38:34] <Shambling> a maven for end ores, https://maven.mcmoddev.com/mmd/orespawn/2.0.0.10-1.10.2/orespawn-2.0.0.10-1.10.2.pom

L882[18:38:39] <Shambling> or rather orespawn

L883[18:39:05] <Shambling> trying to get the latest version to compile to see it works any better than the version from way back in may or whatever it was

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L885[18:47:59] <Shambling> huh well looking at th epom file, it says "accessdenied, right in the file itself

L886[18:48:00] <Shambling> lol

L887[18:49:57] <Shambling> ah thats because its from minecraft libraries, I don't think I've ever had gradle successfully pull from there

L888[18:51:18] <killjoy> mojang only stores libraries they use there.

L889[18:51:43] <killjoy> if gradle is erroring about that, it means it couldn't find your library

L890[18:55:23] <Shambling> sometimes I think gradle.build files would be alot easier to understand if people would stop trying to make them so generic

L891[18:55:35] <Shambling> 5 layers of referencing another spot

L892[18:55:35] <killjoy> they're groovy

L893[18:56:20] <barteks2x> For me gradle buildscript is much easier to understand in kotlin

L894[18:57:32] <killjoy> does gradle support kotlin buildscripts?

L895[18:58:12] <barteks2x> as of 3.something it does

L896[18:58:29] <barteks2x> https://github.com/Barteks2x/CubicChunks/blob/MC_1.11/build.gradle.kts

L897[18:59:22] <barteks2x> the get<Something>("something") is a function I made to make it less verbose

L898[18:59:42] <killjoy> unfortunately you have to import everything

L899[18:59:50] <barteks2x> but you have autocomplete in IDEA

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L901[19:00:03] <barteks2x> actually working autocomplete, the same as in java

L902[19:00:15] <barteks2x> with automatic imports

L903[19:00:19] <killjoy> cool

L904[19:01:14] <barteks2x> it does support implied imports or something like that but I'm not sure if idea recognizes them right now

L905[19:02:38] <killjoy> github needs to support folding

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L912[19:14:53] <Shambling> ... ok so it was a hanging , that caused the compile fail

L913[19:14:55] <Twisted_Code> (As a server owner) is there a simple way to check what status effect a mob has while the server is running? The best I can figure would be to trap it in something like a safari net or golden lasso and examine the item's NBT.

L914[19:14:55] <Shambling> vunderbar

L915[19:15:23] <killjoy> I'm sure there's a vanilla command for it

L916[19:15:27] <ayyliens> hey can anyone point me in the right direction to drawing a png on the screen?

L917[19:15:45] <killjoy> ayyliens, bind the resourcelocation then draw a textured modal

L918[19:16:55] <ayyliens> any place I can look where this is done?

L919[19:17:03] <ayyliens> maybe one of the gui's?

L920[19:17:06] <killjoy> yeah

L921[19:17:10] <killjoy> any gui really

L922[19:17:12] <ayyliens> on it :P

L923[19:17:30] <killjoy> GuiButton's a good place to look

L924[19:17:35] <ayyliens> thanks man

L925[19:19:44] <Twisted_Code> killjoy, if there is a command for it, I can't remember what and probably won't be able to find it in any short period of time, so do you have any other ideas?

L926[19:19:57] <killjoy> I'm sure sethbling would kn ow

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L928[19:20:47] <killjoy> use /entitydata

L929[19:21:27] <killjoy> http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/248001/how-can-i-see-the-entity-data-of-an-existing-item

L930[19:22:32] <Twisted_Code> Unknown command. Thanks for the suggestion nonetheless

L931[19:23:08] <Twisted_Code> (Now might be a good time to mention that this is a 1.7.10 server)

L932[19:23:09] <killjoy> works for me

L933[19:23:11] <killjoy> ah

L934[19:23:13] <killjoy> why?

L935[19:23:22] <killjoy> mods is no excuse anymore

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L938[19:24:11] <BrainStone> Hey, does anyone know how I can get the current light level of a block?

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L940[19:24:22] <BrainStone> I tried these methods:

L941[19:24:27] <killjoy> probably in world

L942[19:24:31] <Twisted_Code> killjoy, I was holding out hope that Thaumcraft would update to 1.10, but it's taking its sweet time if it is

L943[19:24:48] <killjoy> at least update to 1.9

L944[19:25:00] <Shambling> dangit dense ores, why you say you want 1.11 when curse lists you as 1.10.2

L945[19:25:19] <killjoy> *Thaumcraft is for 1.8.9

L946[19:26:10] <killjoy> I blame curse

L947[19:26:18] <Twisted_Code> killjoy, I fully intend to, at least once I can find time to throw a pack together.

L948[19:27:10] <BrainStone> Well found it, made a stupid mistake

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L960[19:56:40] <Zaggy1024> is there an event fired when vanilla settings are changed?

L961[19:57:36] <killjoy> I would just check them onTick

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L963[19:58:34] <Zaggy1024> mmh that's the other option

L964[19:59:00] <Zaggy1024> if there is an event though, that'd be preferable

L965[19:59:26] <mezz> what setting do you want to check?

L966[20:00:13] <Zaggy1024> checking vbos and cloud mode

L967[20:00:48] <Zaggy1024> currently I've got it in the renderer itself, but that doesn't catch if the clouds get turned off, so I can't destruct the VBO/display list in there

L968[20:00:54] <mezz> there is not an event

L969[20:00:57] <Zaggy1024> ah

L970[20:01:02] <mezz> you can add one though

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L972[20:01:42] <Zaggy1024> mmh, that's a bit outside the scope of this patch

L973[20:01:56] <mezz> just need events for those two things

L974[20:02:06] <killjoy> Aren't they set by changing field values?

L975[20:02:19] <Zaggy1024> probably

L976[20:02:35] <Zaggy1024> this got me curious so I'm checking :P

L977[20:02:53] <Zaggy1024> but I wouldn't want to make events for those two specific settings, that's a bit pointless for just one Forge patch

L978[20:03:27] <mezz> depends on if there is an alternative solution or not

L979[20:04:35] <ayyliens> mc.getTextureManager().bindTexture(new ResourceLocation("resources/images/test.png"));

L980[20:04:52] <ayyliens> am i using that right?

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L982[20:05:15] <mezz> look at other uses, open source, etc

L983[20:05:23] <killjoy> ayyliens, is your texture in the minecraft domain?

L984[20:05:35] <ayyliens> its in my resources folder

L985[20:05:40] <Zaggy1024> could be fired from GameSettings.setOptionValue

L986[20:05:47] <Zaggy1024> with the Options enum

L987[20:06:02] <Zaggy1024> that would be handy, but..maybe for another PR if I get around to it

L988[20:06:24] <ayyliens> http://i.imgur.com/9YdZucQ.png

L989[20:06:28] <killjoy> ayyliens, images should go in "src/main/resources/assets/modid/...

L990[20:06:37] <ayyliens> ok

L991[20:06:43] <ayyliens> let me do that :P

L992[20:06:56] <killjoy> then you use new ResourceLocation("modid", "...")

L993[20:07:15] <TehNut> hi

L994[20:07:48] <TehNut> Ignore me.

L995[20:08:36] <mezz> o/

L996[20:08:38] * killjoy stares intently at TehNut

L997[20:08:57] <TehNut> My girlfriend decided it would be funny to type into whatever window was open

L998[20:09:14] <killjoy> Tell your gf I said hi

L999[20:10:08] <TehNut> i showed her mlp and she loves it

L1000[20:10:14] <TehNut> the mod, not the show

L1001[20:10:19] <TehNut> oh and hi

L1002[20:10:19] <killjoy> cool

L1003[20:10:44] <killjoy> mlp => show, minelp => mod

L1004[20:10:55] <TehNut> whatev

L1005[20:11:02] <killjoy> mhm

L1006[20:11:09] <TehNut> :P

L1007[20:11:52] <killjoy> I'm watching my favorite Disney movie: Mulan

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L1025[21:07:31] <Ordinastie> so how do you deactivate that again : https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisDoors/issues/124 ?

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L1029[21:15:42] <killjoy> Nobody's biting on #ForgeGradle.

L1030[21:15:48] <killjoy> Someone able to help with this? http://pastebin.com/maDu8suJ

L1031[21:15:55] <killjoy> Looks like it's related to Srg2Src

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L1033[21:31:12] <LexManos> somehow you borked it

L1034[21:31:22] <LexManos> if you saved the file while this was running, then yes it'd cause iussues

L1035[21:37:53] <Ordinastie> Lex, I wonder who are the idiots that wanted the no-slash client commands ?

L1036[21:39:36] <LexManos> no idea it was long ago

L1037[21:39:53] <Ordinastie> I'm just surprised you accepted that though

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L1040[21:50:09] <Zaggy1024> didn't even know non-slash commands were a thing..

L1041[21:50:32] <Ordinastie> thankfully, it's only for client commands

L1042[21:50:45] <Zaggy1024> finished the PR for the clouds, all updated for 1.11 https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/pull/3559

L1043[21:53:55] <ayyliens> !gm func_187097_a

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L1048[22:11:29] <killjoy> There's nothing stopping you from making non-slash server commands

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L1050[22:13:55] <Ordinastie> I wonder, how are you supposed to deal with 0 stack size itemStack now ?

L1051[22:14:08] <LexManos> you dont, as they are air

L1052[22:14:59] <LexManos> but ya, it would probably be best to make a trigger system and make the commands trigger aware

L1053[22:15:00] <Ordinastie> vanilla completely dump the visual, but before when you were dragging an itemStack over slots, you would still see the picked itemStack with a yellow 0

L1054[22:15:33] <LexManos> interesting, no idea what vanilla does for that now

L1055[22:15:38] <Ordinastie> nothing

L1056[22:15:42] <Ordinastie> it just doesn't draw

L1057[22:15:53] <Ordinastie> it checks for isEmpty before drawing

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L1059[22:16:44] <tterrag> sounds like a bug tbh

L1060[22:17:04] <Ordinastie> but even if they wanted to draw, they wouldn't be able

L1061[22:17:21] <Ordinastie> because getItem() returns AIR if size is 0, even if the actual item inside is not AIR

L1062[22:18:00] <killjoy> I saw a getRawItem() a while ago

L1063[22:18:02] <killjoy> maybe that?

L1064[22:18:04] <Ordinastie> I kept getting confused because toString() use getItem() and I was wonder why my item changed :x

L1065[22:19:04] <Ordinastie> can't find that

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L1067[22:21:55] <Ordinastie> outputing the itemStack is pointless now if I want to debug it :x

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L1069[22:24:02] <killjoy> getItem() should work

L1070[22:24:10] <killjoy> it doesn't call isEmpty()

L1071[22:24:17] <killjoy> it tests the field isEmpty

L1072[22:24:29] <Ordinastie> which is set when setCount is called

L1073[22:25:33] <killjoy> Hm.. do negative itemstacks still work?

L1074[22:25:41] <killjoy> guess not

L1075[22:25:52] <Ordinastie> this.stackSize <= 0

L1076[22:26:22] <killjoy> guess we've got to do something hacky to get infinite stacks now

L1077[22:26:59] <killjoy> commandbook used the negative numbers.

L1078[22:27:13] <Ordinastie> what's that ?

L1079[22:27:15] <killjoy> bukkit essentials I think cancelled the stackSize thing

L1080[22:27:25] <killjoy> commandbook is a bukkit plugin for server management

L1081[22:27:47] <killjoy> created by sk89q, maintained by wizjany

L1082[22:27:49] <killjoy> I think

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L1084[22:28:40] <Ordinastie> !gf ItemStack.item

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L1088[22:32:46] <killjoy> double clicking to pick up all items isn't working.

L1089[22:32:49] <killjoy> must be another bug

L1090[22:32:51] <killjoy> (1.11.2

L1091[22:33:16] <Ordinastie> works in 1.11

L1092[22:33:37] <killjoy> it's working half the time

L1093[22:33:41] <killjoy> arrows do, bones don't

L1094[22:33:46] <killjoy> I must be doing it wrong

L1095[22:34:26] <killjoy> only works when doing it on the hotbar

L1096[22:34:35] <killjoy> also I'm in creative

L1097[22:34:49] <Ordinastie> ah yes

L1098[22:34:55] <Ordinastie> doesn't work for player inventory in creative

L1099[22:34:58] <Ordinastie> good job mojang

L1100[22:35:12] <killjoy> who needs inventory management in creative?

L1101[22:35:19] <killjoy> Not me

L1102[22:35:23] <killjoy> ...

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L1104[22:35:31] <killjoy> Who needs inventory management in creative? I Dooooo!!

L1105[22:35:50] <Ordinastie> it's more like, why isn't it even the same code

L1106[22:36:14] <killjoy> gonna try to find a issue

L1107[22:38:58] <Ordinastie> I welcome the day where NPE will tell you what actually NPEs :x

L1108[22:39:15] <killjoy> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-65086

L1109[22:40:04] <killjoy> This has been here since '14?

L1110[22:40:15] <killjoy> seriously?

L1111[22:41:07] <Ordinastie> do you think I should send mojang my container code ? ^^

L1112[22:42:08] <killjoy> just PR it to forge. It'll be easier

L1113[22:42:50] <Ordinastie> ahah

L1114[22:45:48] <killjoy> mojang doesn't take code from modders anymore

L1115[22:45:52] <killjoy> not since notch left

L1116[22:49:03] <killjoy> otherwise, they would've taken forge's many vanilla fixes

L1117[22:49:31] <killjoy> I've fixed at least 2 vanilla bugs now

L1118[22:49:33] <williewillus> what about horses

L1119[22:49:39] <killjoy> horse inventories?

L1120[22:49:43] <killjoy> oh.

L1121[22:49:50] <killjoy> that was a idea.

L1122[22:49:52] <killjoy> they take lots of those

L1123[22:50:04] <williewillus> no actual horses, they got the guy to help them

L1124[22:50:08] <williewillus> or something

L1125[22:50:17] <killjoy> the model or something

L1126[22:50:33] <LexManos> they take forge fixes in every now and again

L1127[22:50:43] <LexManos> but yes if you want ti fixed in a timely manor, PR it forge

L1128[22:51:17] <Ordinastie> my container is a complete rewrite, you wouldn't want it in forge

L1129[22:51:46] <LexManos> ah, then nope

L1130[22:51:59] <Ordinastie> on another note, is it possible to have discrepancies between a vanilla class file and it's viewable source ?

L1131[22:52:13] <killjoy> yes.

L1132[22:52:24] <killjoy> the compiler/decompiler may add a ghost variable

L1133[22:52:43] <Ordinastie> my issue is ItemStack.copy()

L1134[22:52:49] <LexManos> that and they definitly move lines

L1135[22:53:19] <Ordinastie> the methods uses this.item, but the debugger goes into getItem()

L1136[22:53:29] <LexManos> yes thats cuz we transform everything

L1137[22:53:38] <killjoy> I'm assuming this is related to transformers, and nobody in their right mind would test for line numbers.

L1138[22:53:49] <Ordinastie> you transorm what ?

L1139[22:53:55] <killjoy> the patch

L1140[22:54:00] <Ordinastie> because in this case, it does do the same thing

L1141[22:54:11] <LexManos> we opted to have a transformer for Itemtack instead of the 50 patches that would be nessasary to redirect everything

L1142[22:56:17] <Ordinastie> wait, originally, all the isEmpty() methods where field access ?

L1143[22:56:38] <Ordinastie> no I misrad

L1144[22:56:43] <Ordinastie> *misread

L1145[22:57:18] <Ordinastie> question though, why ?

L1146[22:57:28] <LexManos> the only ones that dont go through getItem is the empty check and forge init

L1147[22:57:41] <LexManos> and it needs to go through it so we can do delegates correctly

L1148[22:58:25] <killjoy> so does saveToNBT use item or getItem()?

L1149[22:58:31] <LexManos> getItem

L1150[22:58:43] <LexManos> <LexManos> the only ones that dont go through getItem is the empty check and forge init

L1151[22:58:49] <Ordinastie> basically,once you have 0 stackSize, you're fucked :x

L1152[22:59:13] <LexManos> technically you can ressusitate it by changing the stack size

L1153[22:59:22] <LexManos> but yes o sized stacks are now air

L1154[23:00:13] <Ordinastie> the whole thing is a mess :s

L1155[23:00:27] <LexManos> sorta, but its mainly your lack of understanding

L1156[23:00:40] <williewillus> what was the point of the change overall?

L1157[23:00:46] <LexManos> which one?

L1158[23:01:15] <tterrag> any GL wizards around atm? got a non-MC-related problem

L1159[23:02:57] <williewillus> actually it kinda makes sense. 0 size stacks let you get rid of all the if (stacksize == 0) setStack(slot, null) checks. which makes it convenient to have <= 0 also count as "empty/not present"

L1160[23:03:06] <williewillus> at first sight it seemed like the change was just for the sake of change

L1161[23:03:20] <LexManos> yes, the idea was to make itemstacks immutible, or atleast as much as it can be

L1162[23:03:25] <LexManos> and auto-nulling

L1163[23:03:33] <McJty> Unfortunatelly they didn't go the whole way

L1164[23:03:40] <McJty> But then again that would have been even more major for us

L1165[23:03:41] <LexManos> its mojang, dont bitch, fix

L1166[23:04:07] <williewillus> rest of the way for what?

L1167[23:04:18] <McJty> Making itemstack truely immutable

L1168[23:04:18] <killjoy> It's not entirely immutable

L1169[23:04:30] <killjoy> only item is final

L1170[23:05:07] <williewillus> i mean that sounds like a pita for inventory management

L1171[23:05:29] <McJty> Actually not really

L1172[23:05:46] <McJty> What is a pita right now is having to do copy() on stacks because you cannot always be sure nothing is modifying the stack

L1173[23:06:10] <Ordinastie> that's the thing, the inventory should be the one checking the size, and using ItemStack.EMPTY

L1174[23:07:04] <LexManos> tomato tomato

L1175[23:07:49] <tterrag> that phrase doesn't really work in text

L1176[23:07:50] <tterrag> lol

L1177[23:07:55] <LexManos> yes it does ;)

L1178[23:08:05] <killjoy> tomahto

L1179[23:08:15] <LexManos> shush anyways you get my point

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L1182[23:14:34] <williewillus> when infernal mobs buffs a baby zombie in a roguelike dungeon that already had armor >.>

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L1188[23:48:07] <ayyliens> can i use !gm the other way around

L1189[23:48:32] <killjoy> setting?

L1190[23:48:36] <killjoy> it's !sm

L1191[23:48:41] <ayyliens> coo

L1192[23:48:46] <ayyliens> !sm sendQueue

L1193[23:48:50] <ayyliens> oh lol

L1194[23:49:10] <ayyliens> I was thinking to get the ob name from debof name

L1195[23:49:21] <killjoy> !gm sendQueue

L1196[23:49:32] <ayyliens> !gm sendQueue

L1197[23:49:34] <killjoy> what's the parent class?

L1198[23:49:41] <ayyliens> EntityPlayerSP

L1199[23:49:49] <killjoy> is it a field or method?

L1200[23:49:52] <ayyliens> field

L1201[23:49:54] <killjoy> !gf sendQueue

L1202[23:50:00] <ayyliens> !gf sendQueue

L1203[23:50:16] <ayyliens> ill just open the csv lol

L1204[23:50:18] <killjoy> use !gf <class>.<field>

L1205[23:50:35] <ayyliens> !gf EntityPlayerSP.sendQueue

L1206[23:50:57] <killjoy> !fh EntityPlayerSP.sendQueue

L1207[23:51:07] <killjoy> it was changed to connection

L1208[23:51:13] <ayyliens> ahh

L1209[23:51:26] <ayyliens> forgot it's using the latest

L1210[23:51:30] <ayyliens> im still on 1.9

L1211[23:51:31] <killjoy> if you're not using latest, you should append the mc version

L1212[23:51:37] <ayyliens> yeah last arg

L1213[23:51:40] <ayyliens> forgot about that

L1214[23:51:46] <killjoy> !gf EntityPlayerSP.sendQueue 1.9

L1215[23:51:51] <killjoy> !gf EntityPlayerSP.sendQueue 1.8

L1216[23:51:59] <killjoy> it was changed at the last minute in 1.9 I guess

L1217[23:52:11] <killjoy> that's enough mcpbot for me

L1218[23:52:15] <ayyliens> heh

L1219[23:52:20] <killjoy> pst, #mcpbot

L1220[23:52:30] <ayyliens> yeah ill do dat

L1221[23:52:34] <ayyliens> much spam

L1222[23:52:42] <killjoy> Do we have a web interface for that yet?

L1223[23:52:48] <ayyliens> i can make one Kappa

L1224[23:54:55] <ayyliens> this odd though

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L1226[23:55:25] <BrainStone> please make one ayyliens

L1227[23:55:39] <killjoy> if you make it client-based, you don't even have to pay for hosting.

L1228[23:55:44] <killjoy> github pages

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L1230[23:56:13] <ayyliens> meh i have the ability to fund it

L1231[23:56:14] <BrainStone> Hosting something like that should'nt be too much of an issue

L1232[23:56:31] <BrainStone> I mean at least 20% of people here have a server

L1233[23:56:36] <killjoy> I mean assuming purely js/jquery

L1234[23:56:38] <ayyliens> host on digital ocean $5/mo

L1235[23:56:48] <ayyliens> i wouldnt want to do it client based

L1236[23:56:50] <killjoy> I'd prefer $10/yr

L1237[23:56:53] <ayyliens> lol

L1238[23:57:43] <killjoy> make it a chrome app

L1239[23:57:46] <BrainStone> Or for free

L1240[23:58:00] <ayyliens> ima just make a mockup

L1241[23:58:02] <killjoy> github pages is free

L1242[23:58:03] <ayyliens> and we can see where it goes

L1243[23:58:08] <BrainStone> I have so much webspace left on my root

L1244[23:58:17] <BrainStone> Or that

L1245[23:58:25] <killjoy> Would it be a good idea to support setting names?

L1246[23:58:32] <ayyliens> no

L1247[23:58:35] <ayyliens> probably not

L1248[23:58:38] <ayyliens> just read only

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L1250[23:59:17] <killjoy> Did anyone ever fix that bug where entities don't render when in the void/sky?