OCLogs: 2016-10-25.log

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L21[01:53:34] <Subaraki> masa, https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/telepad?comment=17

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L23[01:53:43] <Subaraki> it apperantly resyncs when opening a chest

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L25[01:59:40] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161025 mappings to Forge Maven.

L26[01:59:44] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20161025-1.10.2.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20161025" in build.gradle).

L27[01:59:54] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L50[03:58:41] <alexiy> what is the purpose of 'api' source set? Is it for putting other mods API or for putting my API?

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L52[04:04:37] <sham1> o/

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L60[04:49:47] <Wuppy> \o

L61[04:51:00] <SquareWheel> Howdy

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L72[06:17:26] <Subaraki> no event for breeding animals or the like ? trying to know when a player has bred two animals

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L85[07:23:41] <wundr|mobile> Can anyone suggest a way to double item drops?

L86[07:24:36] <wundr|mobile> Like mine a block, get double the output?

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L89[07:32:58] <Subaraki> block drops event wundr|mobile ?

L90[07:33:18] <Subaraki> dont know if that exists

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L92[07:33:44] <Subaraki> blockEVent.harvestDropEvent

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L95[07:35:35] <Subaraki> why isn't livingspawnevent firing when i'm spawning a cow with a spawn egg ?

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L97[07:43:31] <JustWhoAmI> gigaherz,

L98[07:43:48] <JustWhoAmI> if in my actionPerformed, I wanted to change a value server-side

L99[07:43:51] <JustWhoAmI> how would I do it?

L100[07:43:55] <JustWhoAmI> Imessage?

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L103[07:53:22] <Wuppy> is steam down for anyone else or just me? internet says it's online but I can't get in :V

L104[07:55:09] <AshIndigo> I'm on mobile so I can't load a game but I can see my friends online

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L108[07:58:30] <JustWhoAmI> online for me

L109[07:59:37] <JustWhoAmI> GUys

L110[07:59:55] <JustWhoAmI> How do Iuse methods in a TileEntity in my IMessageHandler

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L113[08:06:37] <masa> you get the TE from world and then call the methods

L114[08:07:52] <masa> Subaraki: I think there was something like a breed event or an offspring event or something added recently

L115[08:08:34] <Subaraki> should check in updated forge then P:

L116[08:09:01] <Subaraki> masa, did you get my message from before ?

L117[08:09:15] <masa> yes

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L119[08:10:19] <masa> I was looking at the bed/sleeping code yesterday trying to understand what happens when that desync glitch happens... still no idea really, unless the EntityPlayerMP.connection reference points to an outdated net handler or something

L120[08:10:48] <masa> do you have any idea if that glitch happens in single player too, or only in multiplayer?

L121[08:10:53] <Subaraki> would there be a way to force a sync ? send a packet a few ticks after calling the TP code ?

L122[08:10:58] <Subaraki> it might be multiplayer only

L123[08:11:14] <Subaraki> i have never head such a bug, and i play sp only

L124[08:11:15] <masa> I would need to set up a server and run the client in debug mode and then try to reproduce the glitch...

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L126[08:12:03] <masa> yeah well no need for nasty workarounds if we could find out what/why is causing the issues, and then just change the TP code accordingly

L127[08:12:46] <Subaraki> check the chest code to see what that does to fix it ?

L128[08:12:49] <masa> hmm, all of MC network code runs over TCP, right? or does it?

L129[08:12:54] <Subaraki> can tell us more what is wrong

L130[08:13:01] <Subaraki> no clue tbh :/

L131[08:13:05] <Subaraki> never really looked into that

L132[08:13:12] <masa> well I just understood that the chest syncs the inventory as that's what they were talking about

L133[08:13:28] <Subaraki> yeah

L134[08:13:45] <masa> it probably won't fix anything else that is wrong with the player at that point

L135[08:13:54] <Subaraki> yeah, most likely

L136[08:14:03] <Subaraki> but noone complains about being stuck or teleporting back

L137[08:14:17] <Subaraki> only dupe items and inventory content not doing what it should (aka dysnced)

L138[08:14:22] <masa> well how often do people sleep right after teleporting? :p

L139[08:14:30] <Subaraki> xD

L140[08:14:32] <Subaraki> good question

L141[08:14:41] <Subaraki> you should try that

L142[08:14:48] <Subaraki> i'm going to ask my users to test that

L143[08:15:44] <masa> anyway, if all MC network stuff is TCP, then I could set up a ssh-tunnel from my server box to my dev PC and run a server in debug mode to help with debugging

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L145[08:16:10] <masa> so if you have free time to help with debugging some day, we could try to reproduce the problem

L146[08:16:33] <masa> unfortunately I have a lot of other things to do lately so I'm not sure when I'll have time to do that

L147[08:20:08] <Subaraki> just ping me

L148[08:20:16] <Subaraki> i'm free very often, all the time

L149[08:20:43] <masa> alright

L150[08:31:57] <JustWhoAmI> Subaraki, I seem to be having a number of weird issues with my gui

L151[08:31:59] <JustWhoAmI> can you help?

L152[08:32:23] <Subaraki> offcourse :)

L153[08:32:25] <Subaraki> tell me

L154[08:32:35] <JustWhoAmI> ty :D

L155[08:32:50] <JustWhoAmI> I'll give you my code first

L156[08:34:23] <JustWhoAmI> GuiHandler: http://pastebin.com/uDdRNvxV

L157[08:34:31] <JustWhoAmI> Mod class: http://pastebin.com/vhFkVTqk

L158[08:34:37] <JustWhoAmI> TE: http://pastebin.com/JUZcN6Pn

L159[08:34:55] <JustWhoAmI> GuiMessageHandler implements IMessageHandler: http://pastebin.com/W4PLs9Jq

L160[08:35:40] <JustWhoAmI> GuiContainer for the TE: http://pastebin.com/Xq0rQ2Ke

L161[08:36:06] <JustWhoAmI> GuiMessage implements IMessage: http://pastebin.com/Ug8fyWuW

L162[08:36:13] <JustWhoAmI> Alright I think that's all the required code

L163[08:37:00] <JustWhoAmI> now problem number 1: you might see that in my GuiContainer, upon the pressing of a button I send an IMessage to the server, in order to set some values in a TE (rf and gas)

L164[08:37:18] <JustWhoAmI> However, upon pressing, this is the exception shown:

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L166[08:41:43] <JustWhoAmI> http://pastebin.com/C0Pw6cGp

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L168[08:42:44] <Subaraki> do you not have a repo ?

L169[08:42:47] <Subaraki> like github or so ?

L170[08:42:52] <Subaraki> you should concider it P:

L171[08:42:58] <JustWhoAmI> Yeah will do haha

L172[08:43:04] <JustWhoAmI> so it doesn't reset my rf

L173[08:43:06] <JustWhoAmI> BUT

L174[08:43:19] <JustWhoAmI> if i attempt using the button when rf is being filled simultaneously

L175[08:43:25] <JustWhoAmI> it resets my rf

L176[08:43:27] <JustWhoAmI> any clue?

L177[08:43:51] <JustWhoAmI> fyi, the line mentioned from greatblitz in the exception is: te.es.setEnergyStored(message.rf);

L178[08:44:31] <JustWhoAmI> if i were to break the block and place it somewhere else (while there is rf in block) rf will not reset, instead it will throw that exception

L179[08:44:44] <Subaraki> (TileEntityTestBlock) world.getTileEntity(new BlockPos(x, y, z)));

L180[08:44:57] <Subaraki> for security, you should check if the TE is indeed your teTestBlock

L181[08:45:01] <JustWhoAmI> which file we talking about?

L182[08:45:03] * Subaraki contineus looking t code

L183[08:45:04] <JustWhoAmI> Handler?

L184[08:45:06] <Subaraki> guihandler

L185[08:45:08] <Subaraki> yeah

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L188[08:47:24] <Subaraki> are you using java 1.8 ?

L189[08:47:55] <JustWhoAmI> let me check

L190[08:47:59] <JustWhoAmI> would that make a difference?

L191[08:48:17] <Subaraki> not really, but it would be better. most certainly for upcoming 1.11 iirc

L192[08:48:19] <Subaraki> anyway

L193[08:48:34] <Subaraki> your packet message could be made 2 lines shorter by simply doing

L194[08:48:34] <JustWhoAmI> how do I check?

L195[08:48:36] <Subaraki> ((WorldServer)ctx.getServerHandler().playerEntity.worldObj).addScheduledTask(

L196[08:48:52] <Subaraki> and if you're using java 1.8 : ((WorldServer)ctx.getServerHandler().playerEntity.worldObj).addScheduledTask(() -> {

L197[08:48:56] <Subaraki> code

L198[08:49:02] <Subaraki> });

L199[08:49:05] <TechnicianLP> my code: https://gist.github.com/TechnicianLP/c1d65473b18ba4d0334eef021ede6bd7

L200[08:49:46] <Subaraki> also, JustWhoAmI : build path, configure build path, libraries

L201[08:49:57] <Subaraki> at the bottom it shows what jre you're using

L202[08:50:16] <JustWhoAmI> jre1.8.0

L203[08:50:18] <JustWhoAmI> so yeah

L204[08:50:36] <Subaraki> great, you can use lambdas then :)

L205[08:50:43] <JustWhoAmI> alrighty! :D

L206[08:51:18] <Subaraki> you use the fmlcommonhandler TechnicianLP ?

L207[08:51:47] <Subaraki> they always recomanded me to use the worldserver from the context

L208[08:51:53] * Subaraki digs into forge documentation

L209[08:52:29] <TechnicianLP> i used wha was recommended to me ..

L210[08:52:33] <JustWhoAmI> Subaraki, you're correct: http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=20135.0 according to diesieben anyway

L211[08:52:43] <Subaraki> lol, well, in either way, it does the job right ;)

L212[08:52:44] <JustWhoAmI> > The Runnable you pass to this method will be executed on the main thread. The IThreadListener instance is Minecraft.getMinecraft() on the client and (WorldServer) ctx.getServerHandler().playerEntity.worldObj on the server. See below for examples.

L213[08:53:18] <Subaraki> fmlcommonhandler returns a worldserver object as well though

L214[08:54:45] <Subaraki> the one from the context comes from the player directly

L215[08:55:00] <Subaraki> the one from the fml handler seems to be comming from an interface

L216[08:55:14] <JustWhoAmI> wait what

L217[08:55:14] <JustWhoAmI> Lambda expressions are allowed only at source level 1.8 or above

L218[08:55:19] <JustWhoAmI> but

L219[08:55:42] <Subaraki> that is loaded when the server starts

L220[08:55:45] <Subaraki> either one is good really

L221[08:55:53] <Subaraki> you do use 1.8

L222[08:56:15] <JustWhoAmI> https://gfycat.com/PiercingPoisedConey Subaraki

L223[08:56:16] <Subaraki> it's because something odd is going on, like, the code you wrote after the lambda isn't correct

L224[08:56:39] <Subaraki> just try to make a lambda with no code in it

L225[08:56:52] <Subaraki> like, comment out the rest, or cut it out and paste it elsewhere to save in later

L226[08:57:02] <JustWhoAmI> should I just quickfix and "Change project compilance and JRE to 1.8"?

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L228[08:57:11] <JustWhoAmI> that's one of the two quickfixes offered

L229[08:57:16] <Subaraki> ((WorldServer)ctx.getServerHandler().playerEntity.worldObj).addScheduledTask(() -> {});

L230[08:57:18] <Subaraki> nah

L231[08:57:21] <Subaraki> it already should be

L232[08:57:25] <JustWhoAmI> but my jre seems to be 1.8 (see the gfy above)

L233[08:57:37] <Subaraki> if the above doesn't work, use the quickfix

L234[08:57:59] <JustWhoAmI> yeah, didn't work

L235[08:58:00] <Subaraki> return null; should be outside of the lambda too btw. just aying in case of

L236[08:58:04] <JustWhoAmI> using quickfix

L237[08:58:06] <Subaraki> okay, quickfix then

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L239[08:58:49] <JustWhoAmI> alright

L240[08:58:50] <JustWhoAmI> done, works

L241[08:59:00] <JustWhoAmI> I removed the final attributes

L242[08:59:01] <Subaraki> also, you can write a BlockBos to a long

L243[08:59:06] <Subaraki> and recreate a blockpos from long

L244[08:59:16] <Subaraki> so you don't have t owrite each individual coord to the buffer

L245[08:59:34] <Subaraki> buf.writeLong(pos.toLong()

L246[08:59:42] <JustWhoAmI> but in theory shouldn't it work?

L247[08:59:43] <Subaraki> pos = BlockPos.fromLong(buf.ReadLong)

L248[08:59:52] <Subaraki> it does work, yes, but that's messy

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L250[09:00:00] <Subaraki> you use 6 lines of code where you could use 2

L251[09:00:02] <JustWhoAmI> yeah

L252[09:00:10] <JustWhoAmI> alright i'll update and then run

L253[09:00:12] <Subaraki> and not to mention the lenght of your line checking for the TE

L254[09:00:23] <Subaraki> also, securtiy, check if wthe te is actually yours before casting it

L255[09:00:50] <Subaraki> won't change anything for now, but it's better coding. (if anyone disagrees, please tell me ! )

L256[09:02:30] <Subaraki> this.mc.getTextureManager().bindTexture(new ResourceLocation("testmod:textures/gui/container/tile.png"));

L257[09:02:48] <Subaraki> this should be referencing a static resourcelocation, to prevent it creating a new resourcelocation every tick

L258[09:02:50] <Subaraki> just sayon'

L259[09:02:53] <Subaraki> sayin' *

L260[09:03:06] <Subaraki> perfromance stuff yada yada yada

L261[09:04:01] <Subaraki> why are you using a try/catch in the button click ?

L262[09:04:16] <Subaraki> and there's no need to super the actionPerformed

L263[09:04:18] <Subaraki> it's empty

L264[09:04:38] <JustWhoAmI> the try catch

L265[09:04:42] <JustWhoAmI> is because

L266[09:04:47] <JustWhoAmI> hold on i'll tell you why

L267[09:04:59] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> well, yeah

L268[09:04:59] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> someone at mojang wrote a new GUI, and something in their actionPerformed throws an IOEception

L269[09:04:59] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> so their IDE complained

L270[09:04:59] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> with a quickfix: add to emthod signature

L271[09:04:59] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> which they did.

L272[09:05:06] <JustWhoAmI> diesieben07> but then the caller of actionPerformed has the same problem. so they did the same thign there

L273[09:05:06] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> and so on.

L274[09:05:06] <JustWhoAmI> <diesieben07> i think at least like 5 times

L275[09:05:55] <JustWhoAmI> so yeah that's why

L276[09:06:32] <JustWhoAmI> should I remove super call to actionPerformed?

L277[09:06:55] <JustWhoAmI> Subaraki

L278[09:06:56] <Subaraki> yeah, it's pointless

L279[09:07:46] <JustWhoAmI> if I remove the super call

L280[09:07:52] <JustWhoAmI> then i can remove the try

L281[09:08:17] <Subaraki> yeah

L282[09:08:23] <JustWhoAmI> alright, i'll launch

L283[09:08:26] <JustWhoAmI> make a new world

L284[09:08:27] <JustWhoAmI> stuff

L285[09:08:31] <Subaraki> testBlockTE.gastank.getGas().getGas() < the second getGas should be named something like, getGasName

L286[09:08:36] <Subaraki> because that's just confusing

L287[09:09:25] <Subaraki> i think your main problem for the reset, is the block not being notified ?

L288[09:09:25] <JustWhoAmI> ikr

L289[09:09:29] <JustWhoAmI> but its mekanism

L290[09:09:31] <JustWhoAmI> not mine sadly

L291[09:09:38] <Subaraki> in your packet handler, when recieving the message, you should call world.notifyblock

L292[09:09:40] <JustWhoAmI> the library in general is poorly coded

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L294[09:09:53] <Subaraki> ah :/

L295[09:09:59] <Subaraki> well, go complain to Mekanism x)

L296[09:10:33] <JustWhoAmI> you bet i did: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/issues/3896 this was about an issue with their api

L297[09:10:46] <JustWhoAmI> but the devs have been inactive for over a month

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L300[09:12:41] <Subaraki> well damn

L301[09:13:00] <Subaraki> maybe you should not use that library as soon as possible, and make your own, or fix theirs xD

L302[09:13:13] <Subaraki> inactive for over a month smells like a bad futur for your mod

L303[09:14:06] <JustWhoAmI> i know and it just makes me sad :( it's such a cool mod

L304[09:14:11] <JustWhoAmI> but from dev perspective

L305[09:14:16] <JustWhoAmI> it just depresses me

L306[09:14:37] * Subaraki googles mekanism

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L309[09:18:57] <JustWhoAmI> Subaraki, after that world.notifyBlockUpdate, anything I need to change in my update tag/packet emthods?

L310[09:19:07] <Subaraki> no

L311[09:19:24] <Subaraki> the notify should 'force' the packet

L312[09:19:31] <Subaraki> so it will save and sync

L313[09:22:50] <JustWhoAmI> Subaraki, now clicking the button does nothing

L314[09:22:53] <JustWhoAmI> no exception

L315[09:22:56] <JustWhoAmI> nothing

L316[09:23:13] <wundr|mobile> Subaraki: I've been using that, but I can't get it to work without throwing an error and preventing any drops

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L318[09:23:42] <Subaraki> well wundr|school, what did you try ?

L319[09:23:46] <JustWhoAmI> http://pastebin.com/EcPkAjAD

L320[09:23:52] <Subaraki> have you any code samples ?

L321[09:23:53] <JustWhoAmI> Here's the updated GuiMessageHandler

L322[09:24:36] <Subaraki> well, why does it do nothing ?

L323[09:24:42] <Subaraki> use breakpoints

L324[09:24:55] <Subaraki> also

L325[09:24:56] <Subaraki> world.notifyBlockUpdate(p, world.getBlockState(p), world.getBlockState(p), 3);

L326[09:25:02] <Subaraki> this needs to be inside the runnable x)

L327[09:25:05] <Subaraki> aka lambda

L328[09:25:18] <JustWhoAmI> OH WOW i didn't put it there?

L329[09:25:23] <Subaraki> nope x)

L330[09:25:29] <Subaraki> you put it outside xD

L331[09:25:39] <JustWhoAmI> *smashes head in wall*

L332[09:25:55] <Subaraki> x)

L333[09:26:46] <wundr|school> If the event's harvester's item has a specific enchant and the block in question is an ore, then:

L334[09:27:23] <JustWhoAmI> Subaraki, would the notify be inside the if statement or outside? i'm guessing inside

L335[09:27:36] <Subaraki> inside offcourse

L336[09:28:02] <Subaraki> wundr|school, please use pastebin :o (idk, but i feel like you were not going to)

L337[09:28:53] <wundr|school> (i wasnt woops, nice catch)

L338[09:29:55] <wundr|school> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DfZ2nV4s

L339[09:31:50] <JustWhoAmI> yeah, still won't work

L340[09:32:02] <JustWhoAmI> i'll be back after some itme, just frustrated

L341[09:32:04] <JustWhoAmI> cya

L342[09:32:10] <wundr|school> Bai

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L344[09:32:16] <JWAI|afk> Bai

L345[09:33:09] <Subaraki> wundr|school, why copy ?

L346[09:33:41] <Subaraki> oh, so you double them ?

L347[09:33:51] <wundr|school> It was a leftover from testing, but should work

L348[09:34:00] <wundr|school> Yeah, double the drop list

L349[09:34:12] <wundr|school> Ofc it doesnt work and thats the problem

L350[09:37:53] <Subaraki> wundr|school, how bout this ? http://pastebin.com/3taBcFGi

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L352[09:38:39] <Subaraki> you make a new list that is the old list, and add the entire content to the old list

L353[09:39:46] <Subaraki> also note : http://pastebin.com/3KqxD6t0

L354[09:39:56] <Subaraki> don't know if that might change something

L355[09:40:13] <Subaraki> but most likely, you'd have a better chance by doubling the stacksize, then to make the list longer

L356[09:41:16] <Subaraki> for(ItemStack theDrop : event.getDrops()){theDrop.stackSize+=theDrop.stackSize;}

L357[09:41:36] <Subaraki> wont double it if it's higher then 32 though

L358[09:41:47] <Subaraki> might be funky with unstackable items

L359[09:41:52] <wundr|school> ArrayList(List) is valid constructor?

L360[09:41:53] <Subaraki> but it's an example x)

L361[09:41:56] <Subaraki> yeah

L362[09:42:06] <wundr|school> Odd

L363[09:42:27] <Subaraki> but as shown in the dropsevent explenation, the dropsChance determines what will drop

L364[09:42:34] <wundr|school> And while i could double the stack, some modders use mulitple drop stacks

L365[09:42:35] <Subaraki> so doubling the list just gives more stuff to drop

L366[09:42:39] <Subaraki> not actually more drops

L367[09:42:50] <Subaraki> if i understood correctly

L368[09:43:08] <wundr|school> Now i'm lost

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L371[09:44:06] <gigaherz|work> oooh https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/790925431293747200

L372[09:44:27] <wundr|school> Hey, that's pretty good!

L373[09:45:22] <gigaherz|work> is that seed-like value meaningful?

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L376[09:46:29] <r4wk> knowing Searg_e , probably

L377[09:47:31] <TechnicianLP> the launcher states 2.0 O.o

L378[09:47:50] <wundr|school> Ooooh

L379[09:47:58] <wundr|school> Gtg

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L381[09:50:54] <LatvianModder> gigaherz|work: https://twitter.com/SeargeDP/status/789179254768492544

L382[09:52:54] <gigaherz|work> OOOOOOOh

L383[09:53:02] <gigaherz|work> SWITCH! SWITCH! SWITCH!

L384[09:53:11] <LatvianModder> Shh, no panic :P

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L386[09:56:41] <gr8pefish> \o/ hype

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L388[10:02:02] <gigaherz|work> the new launcher works well enough -- even in mac ;p

L389[10:02:25] <fry> it even works in wine :P

L390[10:02:52] <gigaherz|work> heh

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L392[10:04:20] <barteks2x> wait, how? It can't install java on wine...

L393[10:04:28] <gigaherz|work> not java

L394[10:04:32] <gigaherz|work> the launcher is a native .exe

L395[10:04:46] <fry> and sure it can

L396[10:04:49] <fry> :P

L397[10:04:50] <barteks2x> I know, but it downloads it's own java to run mc, right?

L398[10:04:50] <gigaherz|work> it doesn't "install java"

L399[10:04:53] <fry> yup

L400[10:04:57] <gigaherz|work> it has its own java package

L401[10:05:01] <gigaherz|work> so it doesn't haveto run the java installer

L402[10:05:07] <gigaherz|work> it just unzips right thre in the folder

L403[10:05:13] <barteks2x> ...does java reallyy work on wine?

L404[10:05:19] <LatvianModder> *Please be Java 8 for 1.11*

L405[10:05:33] <gigaherz|work> LatvianModder: the launcher has used java8 for like 3 years?

L406[10:05:42] <gigaherz|work> maybe 2

L407[10:06:21] <LatvianModder> I know, its silly how long they have delayed it for MC itself

L408[10:06:23] <fry> even lwjgl works in wine, which I'm a bit more surprised about :P

L409[10:06:28] <gigaherz|work> heh

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L411[10:06:38] <LatvianModder> lwjgl2 or 3 or both?

L412[10:06:48] <barteks2x> mc uses 2

L413[10:06:56] <gigaherz|work> well it doesn't surprise me that much, opengl already works by dynamic binding as it is

L414[10:06:58] <LatvianModder> LWJGL3 changed its natives. No longer seperate for 64x systems

L415[10:07:04] <barteks2x> And I don't think they will switch to lwjgl3 anytime soon

L416[10:07:04] <LatvianModder> and I think it depends on Java 8 now

L417[10:07:33] <LatvianModder> No, that would be too much work, wouldnt it? Im working on a game using LWJGL3 and its inputs/windows are way different

L418[10:08:13] <barteks2x> I didn't even get to handling input yet in what i'm working on now...

L419[10:08:34] <LatvianModder> I wonder who is the person who translates MC to latvian..

L420[10:08:57] <LatvianModder> It cant be automatic, right? Because its translated too good to be machine :D

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L422[10:09:40] <gigaherz|work> does lwjgl3 also have the issue where after going from fullscreen back to windowed, you can't resize anymore? ;P

L423[10:09:53] <barteks2x> I was surprised how they translated Mooshroom :D

L424[10:09:55] <LatvianModder> Not sure

L425[10:10:22] <LatvianModder> I know it goes to fullscreen perfectly fine. I havent tried going back from it. But I only do that on startup once so

L426[10:10:56] <fry> gigaherz|work: fixed a long time ago, iirc :D

L427[10:10:57] <barteks2x> Anyway, I'm not installing wine. Just nope. It always messes up my file type associations

L428[10:11:32] <fry> you know you can put it in a container/chroot? :P

L429[10:11:44] <barteks2x> I still didn't full remove all bits and pieces left over from last wine installation

L430[10:12:21] <barteks2x> and I was never able to get anything that uses X working in chroot :(

L431[10:12:42] <fry> what distro? :P

L432[10:12:45] <barteks2x> debian

L433[10:12:50] <fry> heh, me too

L434[10:12:59] <fry> but I had no problem with X :P

L435[10:13:26] <barteks2x> I always have those weird issue nobody else has

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L437[10:14:06] <barteks2x> like for example not being able to use bumblebee (that allows to use nvidia optimus)

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L439[10:15:52] <SquareWheel> Small pet peeve: You need to update version numbers twice, in your @Mod annotation and build.gradle file. Is there a nice way to have one inherit from the other?

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L441[10:16:44] <LatvianModder> yes

L442[10:16:47] <LatvianModder> useMetadata = true

L443[10:16:55] <LatvianModder> Thats what I use, at least

L444[10:17:12] <LatvianModder> it will override your version with the one from mcmod.info (which is overriden by build.gradle on build)

L445[10:17:29] <LatvianModder> or you can use replace & replaceIn

L446[10:17:52] <SquareWheel> useMetadata would just goes in the main mod file?

L447[10:18:03] <LatvianModder> one of @Mod parameters

L448[10:18:14] <barteks2x> wait, is it the kind of launcher that actually uses "web technology" inside?

L449[10:18:30] <SquareWheel> Huh, neat. Thanks!

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L453[10:28:27] <Koward> I can't test the mod I'm working on on my laptop (jvm memory limit exceeded), so I'd like to reduce consumption by toggling off some mods that are imported as dependencies for mod compatibility. Is there a way to quickly enable&disable them ?

L454[10:29:24] <gigaherz> barteks2x: I believe so, yes

L455[10:29:38] <barteks2x> I hate those things...

L456[10:29:54] <gigaherz> it works smoothly

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L458[10:30:43] <barteks2x> But I'm sure it uses just as much memory as java. You get memory usage of java and portability of native application...

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L460[10:32:03] <gigaherz> it loaded 3 exes here

L461[10:32:07] <gigaherz> the main one, at 20mb

L462[10:32:16] <gigaherz> a "--type=gpu-process" at 16mb

L463[10:32:34] <gigaherz> and a "--type=renderer --no-sandbox ..." at 43mb

L464[10:33:12] <LatvianModder> Koward: Idea?

L465[10:34:14] <Koward> LatvianModder: Yep.

L466[10:35:09] <LatvianModder> Go to module Dependencies tab and mark soft deps as Provided

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L468[10:35:54] <luacs1998> https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/59b7m0/help_us_test_the_new_minecraft_launcher_check_the/

L469[10:35:55] <luacs1998> hmmm

L470[10:36:20] <LatvianModder> you should read backlogs, luacs1998 :P

L471[10:36:26] <luacs1998> lol

L472[10:36:29] <LatvianModder> This is already old topic :P

L473[10:36:36] <luacs1998> znc kicked me from here because of nickserv

L474[10:36:46] <LatvianModder> oh I see you just joined

L475[10:36:54] <LatvianModder> See the 1st comment there

L476[10:37:00] <LatvianModder> Java 8 hype! Can't stop it now!

L477[10:37:19] <luacs1998> kek

L478[10:39:39] <luacs1998> ps

L479[10:39:47] <luacs1998> dinnerbone tweeted about it an hour ago

L480[10:39:49] <luacs1998> LOL

L481[10:40:30] <Necro> I hope they really end up changing the game to Java 8.

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L483[10:41:22] <LatvianModder> ... In Minecraft 1.15!

L484[10:41:36] <LatvianModder> Which at this update speed should be here around march :Kappa:

L485[10:41:39] <fry> http://imgur.com/eCzcbZJ

L486[10:43:27] <luacs1998> kek

L487[10:43:53] <luacs1998> holy crap

L488[10:43:59] <luacs1998> resource downloading is so slow...

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L491[10:44:53] <LatvianModder> Uploaded Jun 22 2015

L492[10:45:01] <LatvianModder> kek

L493[10:45:17] <fry> yes :P

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L495[10:47:49] <luacs1998> mojang wat http://i.imgur.com/5mQmpFJ.png

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L500[10:53:47] <nathan72419> how to generate flower in vanilla biome /

L501[10:53:48] <nathan72419> ?

L502[10:55:25] <nathan72419> do i have to use an event handler for this ?

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L504[10:59:16] <barteks2x> nathan72419, you need to register IWorldGenerator

L505[10:59:36] <barteks2x> (assuming you want to do it in world generation)

L506[10:59:50] <nathan72419> u mean using GameRegistry.registerWorldGenerator(new WorldGeneration(), 0);

L507[10:59:51] <nathan72419> ?

L508[10:59:56] <nathan72419> i did

L509[11:00:08] <barteks2x> so what is the problem?

L510[11:00:15] <nathan72419> i opened the world

L511[11:00:28] <nathan72419> and nothing shows up on the ground

L512[11:00:36] <barteks2x> existing world or new world?

L513[11:00:44] <nathan72419> new world of course

L514[11:00:53] <barteks2x> can you show the code?

L515[11:01:19] <nathan72419> wait a sec

L516[11:01:26] <barteks2x> (on pastebin obviously)

L517[11:02:08] <nathan72419> http://pastebin.com/xWZhdUiw

L518[11:02:11] <nathan72419> yea of coz

L519[11:02:13] <nathan72419> lol

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L521[11:06:07] <barteks2x> chunkX + rand.nextInt(16) + 8;

L522[11:06:17] <barteks2x> chunkX is chunk position...

L523[11:06:33] <barteks2x> not the beginning of a chunk in block coords

L524[11:07:02] <nathan72419> so how should i correct it ?

L525[11:07:16] <barteks2x> I'mm sure you copied that code from vanilla

L526[11:07:34] <nathan72419> yup

L527[11:07:52] <nathan72419> but why is that wrong though ?

L528[11:07:57] <barteks2x> vanilla has chunkX that is actually multiplied by 16

L529[11:08:02] <barteks2x> (chunk size is 16 blocks)

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L531[11:08:16] <nathan72419> so i should *16 it right

L532[11:08:33] <barteks2x> yes, if you followed the vanilla code backwards you would see how chunkX is calculated

L533[11:08:43] <nathan72419> chunkX*16

L534[11:08:50] <nathan72419> and chunkZ*16

L535[11:08:56] <barteks2x> yes

L536[11:09:25] <barteks2x> I'm writing readthedocs pages about worldgen now, so sometime soon it should be explained there

L537[11:10:46] <nathan72419> thx

L538[11:10:50] <nathan72419> let me try again

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L541[11:13:24] <nathan72419> um

L542[11:13:29] <nathan72419> wat should the y be

L543[11:15:35] <barteks2x> the height at which you want your flowers to be

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L545[11:17:19] <barteks2x> if you choose random height - it will generate flowers only im places they can be places

L546[11:17:22] <barteks2x> *placed

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L548[11:20:47] <nathan72419> how to set the flowers placeable anywhere

L549[11:20:50] <nathan72419> except air

L550[11:21:08] <nathan72419> i tried protected boolean canPlaceBlockOn(Block block)

L551[11:21:08] <barteks2x> this would need to be done in your flower block class

L552[11:21:08] <nathan72419> {

L553[11:21:08] <nathan72419> return block != Blocks.air;

L554[11:21:08] <nathan72419> }

L555[11:21:11] <nathan72419> it didnt work

L556[11:21:12] <nathan72419> yea

L557[11:21:19] <nathan72419> i put it in the block class

L558[11:21:31] <barteks2x> you extend BlockFlower, right?

L559[11:21:37] <nathan72419> oh

L560[11:21:45] <nathan72419> what if i dont extend it

L561[11:21:51] <nathan72419> oh

L562[11:21:52] <nathan72419> ok

L563[11:22:06] <barteks2x> nothing, just that game may not see it as flower, I don't know exactly

L564[11:22:16] <barteks2x> but the method used by flower generator is canBlockStay

L565[11:22:36] <barteks2x> instead of canPlaceBlockOn

L566[11:22:45] <nathan72419> yea i am using 1.7.10

L567[11:23:04] <barteks2x> oh...

L568[11:23:08] <barteks2x> then I don't know

L569[11:23:12] <Koward> LatvianModder: Meh, I set the dependencies to provided without any effect, unfortunately.

L570[11:23:19] <barteks2x> I don't even have 1.7 source

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L572[11:23:47] <barteks2x> and 1.7.10 isn't really supported here

L573[11:26:36] <LatvianModder> Koward: thats weird. That should work

L574[11:26:50] <LatvianModder> And I know for sure, because I do that all the time

L575[11:27:02] <LatvianModder> unless you have those dependencies in /mods folder

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L578[11:34:07] <Koward> I may be missing something. It's not my mod and the whole project has a messy structure

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L591[12:05:43] <barteks2x> When writing the docs, should I assume that the reader can read minecraft code? There are way too many vanilla implementations of WorldGenerator to explain all of them

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L596[12:25:48] <barteks2x> or should I describe all vanilla WorldGenerators?

L597[12:27:06] <barteks2x> there is >40 of them

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L599[12:29:24] <Tarig> pick a few and then point to where they can find the rest

L600[12:29:47] <gigaherz> yeah give a couple examples

L601[12:29:53] <gigaherz> no point in beinh exhaustive

L602[12:30:04] <Tarig> that way they have a bit a primer so they can understand the rest

L603[12:30:55] <barteks2x> WorldGenMinable is a big exception to one rule here

L604[12:33:52] <barteks2x> no idea why mojang made it that way :(

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L606[12:34:54] <killjoy> Has anyone tried the new launcher?

L607[12:35:05] <killjoy> I think we'll need to update the installer

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L612[12:37:53] <killjoy> or maybe...

L613[12:37:59] <illy> beep o/

L614[12:38:00] <killjoy> It deleted all my version jsons

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L616[12:38:40] <xcube> Where would be a good place for a getPlayersViewingBlock(...BlockPos) method? It is to prevent modders form messing around with PlayerChunkMapEntry

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L618[12:40:55] <gigaherz> some special class?

L619[12:41:55] <gigaherz> I mean like, ForgeSomething.getPlayersViewingBlock

L620[12:42:07] <xcube> ya

L621[12:42:20] <gigaherz> there's a ForgeChunkManager

L622[12:42:27] <gigaherz> may fit there

L623[12:43:04] <xcube> I was thinking of patching PlayerList, as it would be a good place for the method... might it also fit there? or should we avoid such a patch

L624[12:43:22] <gigaherz> eh dunno

L625[12:43:34] <gigaherz> I personally don't see the point of sticking it in a vanilla class for no reason

L626[12:44:45] <xcube> My main motive for doing this is do that mods will be compatible with Cubic Chunks (the one barteks2x and I are working on)

L627[12:45:25] <gigaherz> hmmm is that method something that woudl be world-specific?

L628[12:46:59] <xcube> as in? Cubic Chunks supports both non-cubic and cubic worlds? I am a bit confused

L629[12:47:34] <barteks2x> I think he asks if this method would give different results for different World

L630[12:49:12] <xcube> It allows the modder to specify the y coordinate to the api... right now it is lost when using PlayerChunkMapEntry like https://github.com/lumien231/Random-Things/blob/5bca01c4d5e2f4ae4bb5ba2ac870aad969170b21/src/main/java/lumien/randomthings/network/MessageUtil.java

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L633[12:51:50] <barteks2x> technically we could return a special kind of chunk that has Y coordinate information from world.getChunkFromBlockCoords... but that would mean it will only work when mod uses this exact method

L634[12:52:04] <barteks2x> nevermind, didn't read the whole code

L635[12:53:35] <Lumien> Are you talking about a patch in Forge? I doubt you will get a patch for a specific mod in there.

L636[12:54:31] <xcube> getPlayersViewingBlock() is useful for more than just Cubic Chunks compatibility... It is much easer than reflecting the list form PlayerChunkMapEntry by hand

L637[12:55:23] <barteks2x> randomthings is one of the mods that don't use reflection here

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L639[12:56:11] <Lumien> Pretty sure i did before, i don't think it's necessary anymore

L640[12:57:39] <barteks2x> but it still uses the internals of PlayerChunkMap(Entry). Bug given that there is a no-hacks way to do it in vanilla - such patch probably won't be accepted

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L642[13:00:08] <Intektor> is there a quick way to read a bytebuffer from a datainputstream without putting them in seperately(what seems to be consuming a lot of time)

L643[13:00:37] <fry> where do you get datainputstream from?

L644[13:00:45] <Intektor> from my socket

L645[13:01:34] <fry> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/nio/channels/SocketChannel.html

L646[13:01:35] <killjoy> bytebuf.write(stream)

L647[13:01:39] <killjoy> could try that

L648[13:02:13] <Intektor> I want to read dude :D

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L650[13:02:33] <killjoy> the bytebuf reads it

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L653[13:03:30] <killjoy> Intektor, Use IOUtils.toByteArray()

L654[13:03:35] <killjoy> it's part of apache io

L655[13:03:47] <killjoy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30026060/java-inputstream-to-bytebuffer

L656[13:04:03] <fry> or do the fast thing and use nio :P

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L658[13:04:50] <Intektor> not my whole packet is bytes, a lot of it is also other info

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L661[13:05:03] <killjoy> everything is bytes

L662[13:05:22] <Intektor> I know, I mean BytebUffer

L663[13:05:22] <Intektor> lol

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L677[13:58:37] <Intektor> oh shit http://i.imgur.com/SuEvYwf.png

L678[14:01:45] <sham1> o/

L679[14:02:02] <LatvianModder> o/

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L681[14:03:53] <sham1> I am return from the Haskell channel in my grand quest to do better coding

L682[14:04:08] <g> attempting to manually fix a player file

L683[14:04:14] <g> just out of interest, what is OnGround used for?

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L686[14:05:44] <killjoy> one use is for drag

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L688[14:06:21] <killjoy> if onGround is set to false, you walk a lot slower (think jumping)

L689[14:06:26] <g> ah, I see

L690[14:06:32] <g> 0 is false, right?

L691[14:06:36] <g> also, is it something I need to edit if I, eg, move a player's coords to be above the ground?

L692[14:06:37] <killjoy> false is false

L693[14:06:39] <killjoy> this isn't c

L694[14:06:47] <g> the nbt editor I'm using has it set to 0

L695[14:06:54] <g> (nbtexplorer)

L696[14:06:54] <killjoy> onGround is updated automatically

L697[14:06:55] <illy> #inculde <c.h>

L698[14:07:09] <g> OK, so I don't need to worry about that

L699[14:07:13] <sham1> This should be C

L700[14:07:15] <sham1> well

L701[14:07:16] <killjoy> updated in onLivingUpdate()

L702[14:07:17] <sham1> No

L703[14:07:29] <killjoy> sham1, *Points towards motd*.

L704[14:07:37] <g> the issue I'm trying to fix is.. really odd

L705[14:07:43] <g> and seems to be related to https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-100678

L706[14:07:53] <sham1> I caught myself

L707[14:08:23] <sham1> I'm just going to say it, having 0 be false should be more of a feature nowadays

L708[14:08:38] <killjoy> remove the portal

L709[14:08:47] <g> well, the thing is, there is no portal

L710[14:08:54] <g> this is as a result of teleporting

L711[14:09:15] <killjoy> last resort: delete player.dat

L712[14:09:26] <g> that does fix it

L713[14:09:31] <sham1> Last resort, a nuke

L714[14:09:32] <g> but I'd rather figure out why it happens

L715[14:09:34] <sham1> Good job

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L721[14:26:48] <TvL2386> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

L722[14:26:59] <TvL2386> hits self on head

L723[14:27:19] <TvL2386> too much info

L724[14:27:23] <sham1> self.hit(head);

L725[14:27:33] <TvL2386> :)

L726[14:27:48] <TvL2386> learning curve is so incredibly steep

L727[14:27:54] <sham1> Indeed

L728[14:28:01] <sham1> 'Tis is programming after all

L729[14:28:29] <killjoy> sham1, this isn't python territory

L730[14:28:59] <sham1> Don't step on snek

L731[14:29:05] <TvL2386> lol

L732[14:29:23] <sham1> Also, that could have been Rust

L733[14:29:30] <sham1> And you'd never know

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L735[14:29:48] <killjoy> or any variable named self

L736[14:30:01] <killjoy> not python

L737[14:30:10] <killjoy> gotta drop the ;

L738[14:30:26] <sham1> Gotta be PEP8 compliant

L739[14:30:47] <TvL2386> maybe it was Ruby?

L740[14:30:53] <TvL2386> then you don't need to drop the ;

L741[14:31:03] <sham1> Even in other languages: https://i.imgur.com/wG51k7v.png

L742[14:31:06] <TvL2386> //// JetpacksNG.logger.info("onArmorTick event for chestplate");

L743[14:31:12] <TvL2386> whooops!

L744[14:31:13] <killjoy> querydns. yay or nay?

L745[14:31:19] <killjoy> *querydsl

L746[14:31:20] <sham1> Meh

L747[14:31:31] <sham1> So, what do you like of the link

L748[14:31:33] <killjoy> it's an sql api

L749[14:31:52] <killjoy> http://www.querydsl.com/

L750[14:31:54] <TvL2386> yuck!

L751[14:32:12] <sham1> Until I am able to compose my queries in a Query monad, I will not be happy

L752[14:32:24] <sham1> Also

L753[14:32:28] <sham1> >MongoDB support

L754[14:32:33] <sham1> Gotta support the meme db

L755[14:32:55] <killjoy> Nah, Microsoft SQL is bae

L756[14:33:07] <killjoy> I should go before I'm late for work

L757[14:33:15] <sham1> Stay in IRC

L758[14:33:20] <killjoy> no

L759[14:33:25] <sham1> Use your various computers to stay in touch

L760[14:33:32] <sham1> Unless you are driving

L761[14:33:36] <sham1> In which case, don't

L762[14:34:07] <TvL2386> irssi :)

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L764[14:37:56] <g> you don't _have_ to drop the ; in python.. :P

L765[14:38:01] <g> it's a sign of a python golfer!

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L767[14:39:13] <sham1> Meanwhile in Haskell-land, we could use braces and ;

L768[14:39:15] <sham1> However

L769[14:39:23] <sham1> We choose not to

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L771[14:39:51] <g> haskell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvCNb7fKsg

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L776[14:46:42] <Ivorius> Wow, I cannot even set up my 1.7 project anymore

L777[14:46:47] <Ivorius> For a bugfix release

L778[14:46:54] <Ivorius> The gradle stuff is just suddenly broken

L779[14:47:18] <Ivorius> (well, my dependency stuff at least)

L780[14:52:59] <LatvianModder> Easiest way to fix 1.7.10 bugs: Don't

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L782[14:53:19] <Ivorius> blah

L783[14:53:27] <Ivorius> More than half my downloads are 1.7

L784[14:53:33] <Ivorius> I'd at least like it to be stable

L785[14:53:36] <Ivorius> I'm not gonna expand it

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L793[15:09:09] <LexManos> So just putting this out there, I need a OSX test laptop. So i can dev/test shit on OSX {as it doesnt work in a vm -.-} anyone know a good test bed for ~1K?

L794[15:09:32] <g> totally works in a VM if you have enough time

L795[15:09:37] <g> anyway, sometimes apple has refurbs up

L796[15:09:40] <g> they're usually a bit cheaper

L797[15:10:36] <LexManos> IDEALLY id be able to install like 5 copies of OSX because aparently OSX lepard isnt compatible with osx puma or chupacabra.

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L799[15:13:48] <Shambling> so what test cases aren't working with OSX that has you vexed enough to want to buy that shit?

L800[15:14:19] <LexManos> I dont know, which is the issue I have zero test bed for OSX.

L801[15:14:21] <Shambling> I'd look at a tech school auctioning off old adobe photoshop computers. We can't wait to get rid of our mac shit

L802[15:14:23] <LexManos> Ive needed one for a while.

L803[15:14:27] <gigaherz> I installed OSX in vmware in windows some time ago

L804[15:14:29] <gigaherz> not fun.

L805[15:14:32] <gigaherz> wouldn't recommend. XD

L806[15:14:40] <LexManos> id rather get real hardware.

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L808[15:14:53] <Shambling> even for 5 year old stuff that shit is overpriced

L809[15:14:58] <LexManos> Plus, as its literally JUST for testing shit, its a tax writeoff

L810[15:15:18] <Shambling> so main job testing?

L811[15:15:37] <Shambling> hrmmmm.... I'd still look at a second hand imac, laptops are kinda shit

L812[15:16:04] <Shambling> my god are they gorgeous, but if I can bend it in half with my torn rotator cuff, its kinda weak.

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L815[15:16:31] <illy> Lex mind if I PM you about the wrapper?

L816[15:16:35] <LexManos> sure

L817[15:16:36] <Shambling> a1278 I think was a fairly good one. I'd donate one to you, but I don't think I could get it past my supervisor

L818[15:16:42] <gigaherz> now NEW do you need it?

L819[15:16:44] <gigaherz> how*

L820[15:16:46] <gigaherz> https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MC118LL-15-4-Inch-Laptop/dp/B002C744K6/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477426608&sr=1-4&keywords=macbook

L821[15:17:07] <LexManos> I need it to be able to run minecraft relativly well.

L822[15:17:21] <LexManos> And IDEs like eclipse/mono/intellij

L823[15:17:22] <Shambling> that would be a fairly decent one, but no idea how he would install 5 versions of mac os X on it with 250gb hdd

L824[15:17:24] <LexManos> Thats about it..

L825[15:17:31] <gigaherz> yeah then this would be off the table: https://www.amazon.com/Apple-13-Inch-MacBook-T7200-Processor/dp/B004FG793G/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477426608&sr=1-7&keywords=macbook

L826[15:17:42] <Shambling> well I suppose... 20 gigs per OS, and have a data partition

L827[15:18:22] <gigaherz> ah

L828[15:18:25] <gigaherz> this one's decent

L829[15:18:26] <gigaherz> https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MC965LL-13-3-Inch-Solid-State/dp/B005CWHZP4/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477426608&sr=1-11&keywords=macbook

L830[15:19:08] <gigaherz> (I mean, as far as macs go ;P)

L831[15:19:20] <Shambling> bit pricey for what its got

L832[15:19:46] <gigaherz> it's a core i5, though

L833[15:19:49] <Shambling> true

L834[15:19:58] <Shambling> you don't happen to live in upstate NY do you Lex? lol

L835[15:20:23] <gigaherz> bit more pricey, but core i7:

L836[15:20:23] <Shambling> we're trying to figure out what to do with all our i5 macs. :P

L837[15:20:24] <gigaherz> https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-13-3-Inch-ThunderBolt-Yosemite/dp/B015GED9Q6/ref=sr_1_19?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477426763&sr=1-19&keywords=macbook+air

L838[15:20:37] <Shambling> yeah if you hate USB ports

L839[15:20:51] <Shambling> oh wow, that one actually ahs 2 USB

L840[15:20:55] <gigaherz> yeh

L841[15:21:18] <Shambling> geeksquad training right out the window there

L842[15:21:35] <Shambling> literally one of the questions "How many usb ports does the macbook air have" "1" :P

L843[15:21:39] <gigaherz> similar offer:

L844[15:21:39] <gigaherz> https://www.amazon.com/MacBook-MD226LL-Computer-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01MCT99JA/ref=sr_1_23?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477426882&sr=1-23&keywords=macbook+air

L845[15:22:17] <Shambling> that one definitely looks like a good dev machine. Problem is, what version of minecraft, as 1.10.2 requires like 6+ gigs ram now :(

L846[15:22:26] <gigaherz> not really

L847[15:22:33] <Shambling> well not if you're doing one mod

L848[15:22:34] <gigaherz> you only need 6+ gb to play big modpacks

L849[15:22:42] <gigaherz> he said testing and IDE

L850[15:22:44] <Shambling> so I guess a dev environtment still be good

L851[15:22:46] <gigaherz> 4gb should handle that much ;P

L852[15:25:46] <LexManos> Sham... no but I will be in boston in march

L853[15:26:38] <LexManos> Well also remember ram wise, there is what the OS takes, then there is what the IDE takes then there is MC

L854[15:26:46] <LexManos> so 8GB+ would be preferred

L855[15:27:14] <gigaherz> oh not bad

L856[15:27:15] <gigaherz> https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-13-3-Inch-Laptop-Yosemite/dp/B00NS5MY8U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1477427249&sr=8-3&keywords=macbook+8gb

L857[15:27:31] <gigaherz> that's not far from the one I got at my current job

L858[15:28:37] <gigaherz> https://www.amazon.com/MacBook-250GB-Flash-Intel-Graphics/dp/B00Q3YZMAA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1477427319&sr=8-4&keywords=macbook+i7+8gb

L859[15:28:50] <gigaherz> that one has 256gb SSD, which is nice

L860[15:31:30] <gigaherz> I take back what I said about the previous link, it's an older i7

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L862[15:33:29] <gigaherz> anyone with actual mac experience?

L863[15:33:39] <gigaherz> I know what the numbers would mean on PC, but I have no idea how MC performs with those specs

L864[15:33:40] <gigaherz> ;P

L865[15:33:53] <kashike> kenzierocks: is a mac user, if around

L866[15:34:09] <gigaherz> all I know is:

L867[15:34:31] <gigaherz> I started the new beta launcher, ran MC vanilla snapshot

L868[15:34:43] <gigaherz> and it was 18fps, on a 2015 macbook pro ;P

L869[15:35:06] <Shambling> such intel, many frames

L870[15:35:06] <gigaherz> but Iwas at work, with the work stuff opened in the background

L871[15:35:09] <LexManos> i'll let you guys fight it out for a while. Ive stated what I need it for. so if you can find it and shoot me a few links at the end of the day that'd be nice.

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L875[15:39:58] <g> I've successfully installed OSX under virtualbox before

L876[15:40:07] <g> but updating the OS later totally borked it

L877[15:40:39] <gigaherz> problem isn't installing, it's that it performs... poorly

L878[15:42:02] <g> mm, that's true

L879[15:44:07] <gigaherz> heh my OSX VM just asked if I want to update to Sierra ;P

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L885[16:03:19] <bartman> I have a mbp and I get 100+ fps

L886[16:03:26] <bartman> but I have a geforce gt 650

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L888[16:03:41] <bartman> intergrated is always crap

L889[16:04:04] <bartman> there is a mac event on the 27th you should wait till then, should at least drop the prices for you

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L895[16:15:29] <xcube> Anyone know how to add a spectator hotbar command?

L896[16:19:35] <barteks2x> looking at the code, no way to do that

L897[16:19:55] <barteks2x> there is even separate texture for these things

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L900[16:27:22] <LatvianModder> Can @Mod.EventBusSubscriber be used on any class or just the @Mod one?

L901[16:29:55] <xcube> LatvianModder: Would MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register() work?

L902[16:30:14] <LatvianModder> ofc, im just interested in this feature

L903[16:30:33] <LatvianModder> Its a lot easier to use annotation on event bus than register every bus you have

L904[16:30:45] <LatvianModder> (since I listen to like 100 events, I split mine per category)

L905[16:30:58] <Ordinastie> but it only works for static methods

L906[16:31:20] <Ordinastie> you can't register instances with it

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L908[16:35:10] <tterrag> xcube: no, it wouldn't

L909[16:35:18] <tterrag> lifecycle events are not posted to the forge bus

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L911[16:43:40] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: any class

L912[16:43:46] <gigaherz> I use it on my clientProxies

L913[16:43:51] <LatvianModder> oh cool

L914[16:43:53] <gigaherz> for ModelREgistryEvent

L915[16:43:57] <g> yeah I use it on a separate class

L916[16:44:00] <gigaherz> the only limitation is that it only works for statics

L917[16:44:01] <LatvianModder> nice

L918[16:44:04] <LatvianModder> so?

L919[16:44:06] <LatvianModder> :P

L920[16:44:13] <gigaherz> so nothing

L921[16:44:18] <gigaherz> it's the only limitation ;P

L922[16:44:23] <LatvianModder> Isnt that even faster from Forge's perspective?

L923[16:44:49] <Ordinastie> why would it be ?

L924[16:44:52] <LatvianModder> I dont see how that's a limitation. If dont want to extend event handlers

L925[16:45:11] <LatvianModder> I thought invoking static methods is faster than ones that require object (a.k.a non-static)

L926[16:45:12] <gigaherz> I mean that if you have non-static methods

L927[16:45:14] <gigaherz> it won't work on them

L928[16:45:35] <gigaherz> didn't mean that it becomes less useful because of it

L929[16:45:49] <LatvianModder> well yeah, but I dont see how thats a limitation :P

L930[16:45:57] <LatvianModder> does it work on private methods though?

L931[16:45:58] <gigaherz> ...

L932[16:46:19] <tterrag> because it's bad OO, really

L933[16:46:28] <gigaherz> can you use it on non-static methods? no, hence, it's a limitation

L934[16:46:34] <gigaherz> even if you feel like thel imitation has no value to you

L935[16:46:36] <gigaherz> it still is

L936[16:46:36] <gigaherz> ;P

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L959[17:22:45] <shartte> oh god

L960[17:23:25] <g> yes?

L961[17:23:55] <Ordinastie> good try, but you're not even half of a god

L962[17:24:09] <g> A third is more than most people! :o

L963[17:30:19] <kenzierocks> mac opinions?

L964[17:30:37] <kenzierocks> get one with 16gb if you're doing serious development on it, sometimes i hit close to my 8gb limit

L965[17:31:42] <kenzierocks> they run minecraft at around 30fps with vanilla stuff

L966[17:31:49] <kenzierocks> but can hit 60fps easily with like optifine

L967[17:32:02] <kenzierocks> System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014) • CPU: Intel Core i7-4578U (4 Threads, 2 Cores) @ 3.00 GHz • Memory: 8.00 GB • Uptime: 1 day • Disk Space: 499.05 GB • Graphics: Intel Iris • Screen Resolution: 1280 x 800 (HiDPI Mode) • OS: macOS Sierra (Version 10.12.1, Build 16B2553a)

L968[17:32:05] <kenzierocks> there's all my information

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L970[17:35:49] <PitchBright> i get 60fps w/Vanilla on 5 year old mac

L971[17:36:35] <kenzierocks> that could have been because i was running it with like 100 mods

L972[17:36:41] <kenzierocks> let me get current snapshot fps

L973[17:36:58] <PitchBright> ya you said 30fps with vanilla stuff

L974[17:37:11] <kenzierocks> that was what i remembered

L975[17:37:19] <kenzierocks> from like 3-4 years ago

L976[17:37:24] <kenzierocks> i don't tend to play vanilla

L977[17:37:32] <PitchBright> should be better than that though

L978[17:37:49] <PitchBright> i don't either, I just happen to have a near vanilla dev open now

L979[17:38:35] <PitchBright> 2.5ghz Intel Core i5

L980[17:39:51] <PitchBright> i've noticed that on my server, historically... mac users have much better FPS, vs PC users

L981[17:39:58] <kenzierocks> video settings: https://i.imgur.com/1HvlEdV.png snapshot 16w42a about 40-50fps

L982[17:40:25] <PitchBright> that's with Opifine?

L983[17:40:27] <kenzierocks> no

L984[17:40:32] <kenzierocks> plain vanilla

L985[17:40:49] <PitchBright> hm, Fast gfx

L986[17:40:52] <PitchBright> I'm on Fancy

L987[17:41:02] <PitchBright> everything cranked

L988[17:41:08] <PitchBright> animations, etc

L989[17:41:39] <PitchBright> you're on a macbook though, i'm on an imac

L990[17:41:47] <PitchBright> maybe that makes the difference

L991[17:43:08] <kenzierocks> probably

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L1064[20:50:04] <wundrweapon> is there a way to ensure that every instance of a specific item always has a specific enchantment, like some of the swords in Metallurgy 4?

L1065[20:50:14] <wundrweapon> (those even worked in tabs)

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L1078[21:23:20] <wundrweapon> ...searge?

L1079[21:23:28] <TehNut> ?

L1080[21:23:40] <wundrweapon> i didnt think he'd be here is all lol

L1081[21:23:51] <TehNut> why? He's one of the devs of MCP

L1082[21:24:01] <wundrweapon> MCP != Forge

L1083[21:24:12] <wundrweapon> anyways

L1084[21:24:32] <TehNut> Forge relys on MCP

L1085[21:24:39] <wundrweapon> well duh

L1086[21:24:47] <wundrweapon> anyways, since nobody seems to have any ideas for my issue, I'll be taking my leave

L1087[21:25:05] <TehNut> Explain your question?

L1088[21:25:12] <TehNut> You want items in a tab to have enchantments?

L1089[21:25:32] <TehNut> I swear I already answered that question from you a few days ago

L1090[21:25:45] <wundrweapon> you might've, I tend to not remember things

L1091[21:26:13] <wundrweapon> but the thing is, it has to go beyond just tabs - it has to /always/ have the enchant

L1092[21:26:31] <TehNut> Well you can't really achieve that

L1093[21:26:40] <TehNut> JEI will always show the enchantments, so you're fine there

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L1095[21:26:52] <TehNut> But /give will not work unless the user specifies the NBT

L1096[21:27:17] <wundrweapon> that sucks

L1097[21:27:29] <TehNut> I mean, it's the same with Tinker's Tools

L1098[21:27:39] <wundrweapon> what if i used a PlayerTickEvent handler

L1099[21:27:40] <wundrweapon> how so?

L1100[21:27:46] <TehNut> oh god please don't

L1101[21:27:53] <wundrweapon> then I shan't

L1102[21:27:57] <TehNut> Tinker Tools rely on NBT to determine all their properties

L1103[21:28:13] <TehNut> If you /give one, you'll end up with a "default" tool with no real properties

L1104[21:29:12] <wundrweapon> that's... weird

L1105[21:29:16] <wundrweapon> anyways, igtg

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L1110[21:38:50] <PitchBright> I'm trying to get an entity's inventory to display the contents in the correct slots, but the inventory's itemstacks appear to be filling the slots in order. The nbt data on the itemstacks in the entity's inventory, show that they have the correct slot number associated with them.

L1111[21:40:17] <PitchBright> i'm sure i'm just newbin' it up... and overlooking something stupid simple. Any ideas on which method facilitates loading stacks into the correct slot based on what's in the nbt tags?

L1112[21:40:42] <TehNut> You're saving the slot number, correct?

L1113[21:40:59] <PitchBright> ya, the slot number is on the stack in the nbt

L1114[21:41:15] <TehNut> And you're reading that back and calling setStackInSlot() or whatever equivalent?

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L1116[21:43:31] <PitchBright> i dont' have a setStackInSlot()... but i do have a getStackInSlot()

L1117[21:43:44] <PitchBright> am I missing the former?

L1118[21:43:54] <TehNut> Oh, a normal IItemHandler then

L1119[21:44:00] <TehNut> How are you deserializing this NBT?

L1120[21:45:38] <PitchBright> I have to think about that question... bear with me xD

L1121[21:46:11] <PitchBright> I'm doin' readEntityFromNBT... and getting the TagList...

L1122[21:47:19] <TehNut> don't explain it, show me >.>

L1123[21:47:45] <PitchBright> okay cool thanks http://pastebin.com/WuwQ4wUd

L1124[21:49:53] <PitchBright> is the problem on Line 10?

L1125[21:51:40] <TehNut> Yes. YOu're not setting the array index based on the value of the NBT

L1126[21:51:48] <TehNut> you're just going in order of 0 -> inventory size

L1127[21:52:17] <PitchBright> okay... awesome... thanks so much Nut.

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L1151[23:09:39] <killjoy> Why can't sql have standards?

L1152[23:11:39] <sham1> It does

L1153[23:11:42] <Ordinastie> ^

L1154[23:12:06] <sham1> It's just that not everyone always follows them

L1155[23:14:14] <sham1> Like sometimes MySQL does its own thing, and sometimes Oracle does its own thing, and sometimes Microsoft SQL Server does its own thing...

L1156[23:14:49] <sham1> Well, s/MySQL/MariaDB/

L1157[23:16:18] <Ordinastie> a friend of mine recently started learning programming in some school, and they're learning SQL with firebird... :x

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L1159[23:16:47] <Ordinastie> I was trying to help him with some assignment, I was facepalming every 2 min -_-

L1160[23:16:55] <killjoy> there's 3 ways to create a primary key

L1161[23:17:05] <Ordinastie> IFNULL ? nope, doesn't know it

L1162[23:17:07] <killjoy> only 1 way is universal

L1163[23:17:08] <Ordinastie> stuff like that

L1164[23:19:42] <sham1> Yeah, and the universal should be the one that is the standard

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L1166[23:21:49] <Lord_Ralex> oracle....

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L1169[23:27:04] <sham1> Oracle is supposedly a decent database

L1170[23:27:27] <Lord_Ralex> we're getting off it at work

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L1173[23:31:36] <Lord_Ralex> huh, oracle finally added limit stuff.... 3 years ago

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