OCLogs: 2016-10-10.log

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L3[00:14:13] <TehNut> Does anybody know why using IBlockAccess#getTileEntity(pos) in Block#getDrops always returns null?

L4[00:14:19] <TehNut> Does the TE get removed first?

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L6[00:16:52] <Abastro> It would be the case

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L30[01:59:44] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161010 mappings to Forge Maven.

L31[01:59:47] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20161010-1.10.2.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20161010" in build.gradle).

L32[01:59:58] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L35[02:15:50] <Ordinastie> why can't my hexchat automatically join the server? :/

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L38[02:25:49] <ThePsionic> Ordinastie: does it hate you? You might experience a minor case of robot uprising

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L40[02:26:31] <Ordinastie> nah, I'm usually ok with robots

L41[02:26:39] <Ordinastie> I can relate to them

L42[02:26:42] <ThePsionic> But are robots ok with YOU

L43[02:26:44] <Ordinastie> hating people and shit

L44[02:26:47] <ThePsionic> *dramatic music plays*

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L75[04:01:22] <gigaherz|work> o/ people

L76[04:01:52] <gigaherz|work> anyone with worldgen experience online? (in general, the question isn't specific to mc)

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L81[04:15:45] <Koward> In a producer block of my custom power system I do a notifyNeighborsOfStateChange in onBlockAdded, expecting neighbors to take power from the TE attached to the producer. But onBlockAdded is called before the TE is set, so I guess the updating of neighbors will be too.

L82[04:17:36] <Koward> I'm looking for a solution called right after TE creation, any idea ?

L83[04:18:07] <Ordinastie> onBlockPlacedBy

L84[04:18:26] <gigaherz|work> uhm, when you place a block, the neighbours will already receive a change call

L85[04:18:29] <gigaherz|work> no need to do it yourself

L86[04:21:25] <Koward> Really ? As RedstoneTorch does it, I thought this was not already done

L87[04:21:56] <Koward> But then does this automatic change call happens before of after the TE is set ?

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L89[04:27:59] <gigaherz|work> hmm not sure ;P

L90[04:28:29] <gigaherz|work> also not sure if notifyNeighborsOfStateChange does thesame calls

L91[04:28:48] <gigaherz|work> that said

L92[04:28:56] <gigaherz|work> energy systems usually work on a push basis

L93[04:29:03] <gigaherz|work> where the providers actively spread the energy

L94[04:29:08] <gigaherz|work> rather than requiring the consumers to pull

L95[04:29:20] <gigaherz|work> it makes everything easier to manage ;P

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L97[04:29:55] <Subaraki> what's the best way to throw an exception when the configuration file doesn't have a correct boolean or string ?

L98[04:30:18] <Koward> Really ? I just do the opposite because redstone works on a pull basis, I think

L99[04:30:27] <gigaherz|work> depends on how you want this exception to affect the execution

L100[04:30:42] <gigaherz|work> Koward: redstone isn't really a power system, though ;P

L101[04:31:15] <Koward> Yeah I'm more looking to create a redstone like system than actual an actual energy thing.

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L103[04:35:52] <Subaraki> gigaherz, i just want something, that when people notice that their settings don't work, and the yhappen to maybe look at the log, they can say like ! aha, here's the problem ! without having to read it line for line

L104[04:35:53] <Koward_> gigaherz|work Then in most power systems the providers push their disappearance ? Weird.

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L106[04:36:13] <Subaraki> i did new nullpointerexception(message).printstacktrace

L107[04:36:23] <Subaraki> but that's like very long and seems iconvenient

L108[04:37:00] <IoP> o_O

L109[04:37:51] <Subaraki> i mean the print out is very long ._.

L110[04:38:12] <gigaherz|work> Koward_: well, in RF, for example, there's providers and receivers, but in most cases, the receivers are fully passive, and it's the providers that choose to push to the receivers

L111[04:38:39] <gigaherz|work> so the provider will query the neighbours, see which ones are receivers, and then share the energy across them

L112[04:38:53] <IoP> is it real railure or not?

L113[04:38:57] <IoP> failure

L114[04:39:41] <Koward_> Oh yeah energy systems don't have actual state so they can do that. Redstone-like things maintain a state so I'm not sure I could do it that way.

L115[04:39:45] <IoP> Also you probably should pass your exception to logger. It does nicer work than .printStacktrace()

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L117[04:41:04] <Subaraki> yeah indeed

L118[04:41:10] <IoP> I'm still unable to see the problem here. Do you want to know exact location of the problem?

L119[04:41:17] <Subaraki> but i can't figure out why the forge logger wont print a warning or so

L120[04:41:41] <Subaraki> no. i just want the user to know, if they check the log, that they fooped up something in the config file

L121[04:42:27] <IoP> ohhh

L122[04:42:27] <quadraxis> write a warning to the log yourself?

L123[04:44:33] <IoP> So the question really is how to use Forge's logging system.

L124[04:44:46] <Subaraki> FMllog.warn("message"); ?

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L126[04:45:03] <IoP> Subaraki: fyi you could also use System.out.println() as dirty solution

L127[04:45:28] <Subaraki> too dirty :s

L128[04:45:28] <IoP> Honestly I don't know what is best practise for logging

L129[04:45:45] <IoP> I only know that print to stdout is not

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L131[04:46:22] <Subaraki> [11:45:49] [Client thread/WARN] [FML]: The Value 'nothing' was not a valid String. Resorting to default

L132[04:46:31] <Ordinastie> don't output exceptions, just catch the errors and output a readable explanation in the log

L133[04:46:32] <Subaraki> the thing is, it works. but is terribly not visible

L134[04:46:37] <quadraxis> http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Basic_Mod-1.9

L135[04:47:11] <IoP> or output exception only if they are usable for someone

L136[04:48:11] <quadraxis> you can get a Logger instance for your mod in preinit

L137[04:48:30] <quadraxis> and use that for logging things related to your mod

L138[04:48:33] <Ordinastie> LogManager.getLogger(modid)

L139[04:49:37] <IoP> quadraxis: are you saying that I should use that instance for every logging and not to use class specific instances?

L140[04:50:17] <quadraxis> probably

L141[04:50:42] <Subaraki> aha

L142[04:50:43] <Subaraki> bigWarning

L143[04:50:51] <Subaraki> this seems to be very nice for it :)

L144[04:52:01] <quadraxis> what happens in the event the config is wrong?

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L147[04:59:11] <Subaraki> it just prints out that the config values were not valuable, so the default was set

L148[04:59:29] <Subaraki> just so i have an excuse to say to people that reading the log is not always hard

L149[04:59:40] <Subaraki> or something like that

L150[04:59:44] <Subaraki> user friendly you see

L151[05:00:39] <gigaherz|work> reading the log would be nicer if half the mods didn't spam it with avoidable errors and other meaningless stuff

L152[05:01:30] <IoP> people never read the log

L153[05:01:33] <quadraxis> if i searched the log for 'config' or similar, would I find your warning

L154[05:01:58] <quadraxis> if so, have people do that

L155[05:02:13] <IoP> Make your config.read() to throw exceiption, include bad data in exception details. Then do not catch, let it crash MC

L156[05:02:21] <quadraxis> don't abuse critial error messages for less serious problems

L157[05:02:29] <IoP> aka reikastyle <3

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L181[06:45:30] <Subaraki> so, I am continuing this mod from an author I once worked with, that hasn't showed up for months, and hasn't updated his mods since 1.7.10

L182[06:45:45] <Subaraki> my mod has great use of this mod, and I updated it

L183[06:45:49] <Subaraki> left him a message

L184[06:46:05] <Subaraki> the uestion is

L185[06:46:10] <gigaherz|work> is the mod opensource?

L186[06:46:16] <Subaraki> yes

L187[06:46:33] <Ordinastie> are you sure ?

L188[06:46:36] <Subaraki> the question is, can I host my updated version with fixed on curseforge ?

L189[06:46:37] <Subaraki> yes, very

L190[06:46:44] <Subaraki> i got the code from his github

L191[06:46:48] <gigaherz|work> then, out of respect, you may want to change the name a bit so that it's clear that it's an unofficial update

L192[06:46:52] <Ordinastie> that's not what opensource means

L193[06:46:57] <Subaraki> he even linked it to me when we were working on compatibility between our mods

L194[06:46:59] <gigaherz|work> github != opensource

L195[06:47:06] <gigaherz|work> does it have a license file stating the terms?

L196[06:47:13] * Subaraki looks it up

L197[06:47:13] <Corosus> yeah best check the license

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L199[06:47:45] <gigaherz|work> because something people often forget: if you upload code, even if it's publicly available

L201[06:48:02] <gigaherz|work> unless you explicitly provide permission

L202[06:48:35] * IoP is muttering about RMS zealots using open source for visibile source...

L203[06:48:47] <gigaherz|work> and yes, there have been articles about how an absurdly high number of projects hosted in pages like github, are not REALLY opensource

L204[06:49:08] <quadraxis> this all depends on how you define open source

L205[06:49:16] <gigaherz|work> which is technically against the terms of github

L206[06:49:23] <IoP> it does not. There is exactly one definition

L207[06:49:25] <Subaraki> it's GNU

L208[06:49:48] <gigaherz|work> quadraxis: no, the definition is simply: opensource means you have the right to modify & share the modifications

L209[06:49:51] <gigaherz|work> simple*

L210[06:49:55] <Subaraki> "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies

L211[06:49:56] <Subaraki> of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."

L212[06:49:57] <IoP> gigaherz|work: no. github does not require projects to be open sourced. It was requirement years ago

L213[06:50:13] <gigaherz|work> they don't?

L214[06:50:19] <IoP> open source: https://opensource.org/osd-annotated

L215[06:51:31] <IoP> gigaherz|work: no. I remember seeing that requirement at some point. I have tried to find cached documents or exact date when they lifted that requirement but I have not found. It's really interesting piece of history which is not documented anywhere.

L216[06:51:43] <gigaherz|work> interesting

L217[06:51:48] <gigaherz|work> I assumed they still required it

L218[06:51:52] <gigaherz|work> well either way

L219[06:52:00] <gigaherz|work> even if the projects are "ok"

L220[06:52:05] <gigaherz|work> that doesn't mean they are opensource

L221[06:52:06] <IoP> google code required and they booted some projects

L222[06:52:24] <gigaherz|work> Subaraki: "GNU" is not a license, you mean GPL or LGPL?

L223[06:52:28] <ThePsionic> Subaraki: Unless you have explicit go-ahead from the original creator you can't do anything with it

L224[06:52:52] <ThePsionic> also what gigaherz|work said

L225[06:52:56] <gigaherz|work> ThePsionic: if it's GPL, that's complete BS

L226[06:53:10] <ThePsionic> <Subaraki> of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."

L227[06:53:15] <IoP> Subaraki: You should ask author if it's ok to work with project and if he allows distribution of fork in curseforge (without changing project's name)

L228[06:53:35] <gigaherz|work> ThePsionic: that's the terms of the license document

L229[06:53:37] <gigaherz|work> not the actual license XD

L230[06:53:41] <ThePsionic> welp

L231[06:53:43] <ThePsionic> i'm blind

L232[06:53:50] * ThePsionic leaves silently

L233[06:53:51] <gigaherz|work> Subaraki: can you link to the project already?

L234[06:53:52] <gigaherz|work> XD

L235[06:54:24] <gigaherz|work> it's not like if we are going to judge you badly for updating a mod ;P

L236[06:54:48] <Ordinastie> depends on what you do with it :p

L237[06:54:53] <Corosus> i too want to update a mod but im still holding onto the hope that the guy will come back to life

L238[06:55:16] <ThePsionic> Corosus: I had that once, and then he did come back to life just to give me permission to update it

L239[06:55:23] <Corosus> nice :D

L240[06:55:30] <ThePsionic> (AKA just shoot a message on CurseForge and wait a lil)

L241[06:55:57] <Corosus> yeah, the guy is still active on twitter as he followed me back so perhaps i should contact him when i wanna maybe put effort into updating

L242[06:56:09] <ThePsionic> It was a closed source mod too, I doubt the guy even used Git before he put his mod on GitHub for me to work on

L243[06:56:19] <IoP> Also make those questions in public forum. Better proof for Curse if author allows usage of original name with a fork

L244[06:56:38] <Subaraki> https://github.com/DavidGoldman/PaintingSelectionGui

L245[06:56:51] <Subaraki> the problem is, the author hasn't been active for a while

L246[06:56:58] <Subaraki> and he didn't update past 1.7.2

L247[06:56:58] <ThePsionic> GPL3

L248[06:57:18] <Subaraki> so i doubt he's going to come back to modding soon

L249[06:57:28] <IoP> (IANAM but I have followed discussions in #curseforge about those projects...)

L250[06:57:43] <Subaraki> he never put his project out on curseforge

L251[06:57:46] <gigaherz|work> Subaraki: GPL version 3

L252[06:57:56] <ThePsionic> Subaraki: https://tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-general-public-license-v3-(gpl-3)

L253[06:58:01] <gigaherz|work> that means you are free to modify & distribute any modifications you make

L254[06:58:08] <gigaherz|work> so long as what you distribute is also GPL3

L255[06:58:22] <gigaherz|work> the *name* is a differnt matter

L256[06:58:27] <gigaherz|work> I doubt this mod has a trademark

L257[06:58:34] <gigaherz|work> so technically you could also steal the name

L258[06:58:35] <IoP> just remember to check if he added something into license

L259[06:58:36] <gigaherz|work> but out of respect

L260[06:58:44] <gigaherz|work> you may want to at least make it "unofficial"

L261[06:58:50] <ThePsionic> Or like

L262[06:58:52] <Subaraki> nice. i'l ldo that

L263[06:58:54] <ThePsionic> "Reborn"

L264[06:58:59] <ThePsionic> or "'s Legacy"

L265[06:59:01] <Corosus> just call it "better than paintings" xD

L266[06:59:02] <IoP> or just ask if it's ok to use the damn name

L267[06:59:12] <Subaraki> i can't ask. he's inactive Dx

L268[06:59:17] <ThePsionic> rest in ripperoni

L269[06:59:24] <IoP> Did you try?

L270[06:59:30] <gigaherz|work> it's a generic name, though

L271[06:59:46] <gigaherz|work> "Painting Selection Gui" it's not like if you can be any more standard than that

L272[06:59:59] <Subaraki> i could call it revamped :)

L273[07:00:01] <gigaherz|work> "Painting Selection Resurrection"

L274[07:00:07] <Subaraki> x)

L275[07:00:31] <IoP> yet another <insert mod name here> fork for MC version <insert mc version here>

L276[07:00:39] <Ordinastie> I'd keep the concept and redo it from scratch without a GUI ><

L277[07:00:45] <ThePsionic> Call it Painting Selection New, for short it would be PSN which is (as far as I know) the Photoshop file format so that works out fantastically

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L279[07:01:25] <Corosus> "boss ross presents the happy little painting selector, the anti click spam mod"

L280[07:02:05] <ThePsionic> "and now for a happy little tree" *places sapling* *bonemeals the fuck out of it*

L281[07:02:14] <Corosus> \o\

L282[07:02:34] <gigaherz|work> ThePsionic: Hmmm

L283[07:02:37] <Ordinastie> and don't forget to paint his happy tree friend

L284[07:02:42] <gigaherz|work> Ordinastie: hmmm...!

L285[07:02:47] <ThePsionic> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

L286[07:02:56] <gigaherz|work> make an item

L287[07:03:01] <ThePsionic> Ordinastie: not too close or the bonemealing won't work

L288[07:03:05] <gigaherz|work> that when you click on a placed painting

L289[07:03:11] <gigaherz|work> cycles through the paintings of that size

L290[07:03:26] <gigaherz|work> and when shift-clicking, cycles through the sizes

L291[07:03:38] <Subaraki> gui's more fun though x)

L292[07:03:39] <gigaherz|work> then no gui needed

L293[07:03:43] <Subaraki> no need for cycling

L294[07:03:52] <Subaraki> you can just pick whta you want

L295[07:04:04] <gigaherz|work> Subaraki: nah, there's a kind of "magic" to having in-world interactions

L296[07:04:16] <Subaraki> yeah i know

L297[07:04:20] <gigaherz|work> although

L298[07:04:27] <gigaherz|work> you could make something that is like a catalog

L299[07:04:30] <Ordinastie> gigaherz|work, my idea was, holding the painting item it would display a ghost version of the painting on the wall

L300[07:04:32] <gigaherz|work> and works like the map

L301[07:04:33] <Subaraki> untill you install my paintings ++ and yo'ure going to have to cylce trough 300 paintings ... <_<

L302[07:04:43] <gigaherz|work> where holding it and looking down brings it up

L303[07:04:44] <Ordinastie> and shift+scroll wheel would cycle through them

L304[07:04:53] <gigaherz|work> and holding it and looking at a wall previews how it owuld be placed

L305[07:05:20] <Subaraki> never understood how ghost stuff actually works

L306[07:05:30] <gigaherz|work> RenderWorldLast

L307[07:05:40] <Subaraki> do you place a copy of held item in the world ?

L308[07:05:42] <gigaherz|work> you draw it with a color multiplier with alpha 0.5 or so

L309[07:05:48] <Ordinastie> kill stuff when they're angry, they don't go to heaven and stay in the void as ghosts

L310[07:05:48] <gigaherz|work> no you don't place anything

L311[07:05:53] <gigaherz|work> you do the same stuff that would run if it was placed

L312[07:05:55] <gigaherz|work> without placing it

L313[07:06:14] <gigaherz|work> (the rendering part of it, I mean)

L314[07:06:25] <Subaraki> sound like it would work

L315[07:06:26] <Ordinastie> (in the veil, not in the void)

L316[07:06:41] <Subaraki> the thing is vanilla has like 20 paintings ?

L317[07:06:42] <ThePsionic> just remember, death is whimsical today

L318[07:06:44] <Subaraki> 30 ?

L319[07:06:51] <Subaraki> so its doable

L320[07:06:56] <Ordinastie> (I'm just currently watching Supernatural :p)

L321[07:07:01] <Subaraki> but with over 300 paintings, you'll have a sore finger in no time

L322[07:07:07] <ThePsionic> Ordinastie: in the veal

L323[07:07:18] <gigaherz|work> Subaraki: 26 apparently.

L324[07:07:26] <ThePsionic> at least 1

L325[07:11:26] <gigaherz|work> Ordinastie: old eps or did a new season start?

L326[07:11:39] <Ordinastie> season 9

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L328[07:12:02] <gigaherz|work> premieres october 13

L329[07:12:09] <gigaherz|work> ah, soon.

L330[07:12:17] <Ordinastie> yeah, I've shitton of shows to watch still :s

L331[07:15:17] <howtonotwin> may I just: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/issues/3302

L332[07:15:21] <howtonotwin> o_O

L333[07:16:31] <Corosus> dafuk

L334[07:16:37] <howtonotwin> indeed

L335[07:16:50] <Ordinastie> I wonder, did the first post say anything? :p

L336[07:17:01] <howtonotwin> the same person made a second comment

L337[07:17:22] <Ordinastie> yes, but I'm asking if the first one had something in it and got edited

L338[07:17:37] <gigaherz|work> doesn't say "edited"

L339[07:17:47] <howtonotwin> if you edit within like 5 minutes

L340[07:17:51] <gigaherz|work> I think edited stuff says "edited"

L341[07:17:51] <howtonotwin> it doesn't say edited

L342[07:18:03] <howtonotwin> because that's taken as a revision to the original

L343[07:18:24] <gigaherz|work> hmm if it was edited, I'd have assumed it would have been edited by lex or so, not by the poster

L344[07:18:31] <gigaherz|work> he doesn't seem smart enough to find the edit button

L345[07:18:37] <howtonotwin> ^

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L347[07:19:13] <gigaherz|work> also his username sounds like something people would use as a password

L348[07:19:33] <gigaherz|work> https://github.com/pierre123412345

L349[07:19:39] <gigaherz|work> he has a repository with his name

L350[07:19:43] <gigaherz|work> and another one with his username

L351[07:22:24] <Ordinastie> did you try to connect using those ? :po

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L354[07:23:07] <gigaherz|work> nah I'd feel bad about it. that's probably some young kid who doesn't knowwhat they are doing

L355[07:23:46] <Ordinastie> you don't necessarily have to do bad stuff with it, just check if it works :p

L356[07:32:42] <Subaraki> what does the curseforge 'include' option in library options do ?

L357[07:34:06] <Ordinastie> probably means the library is included in the jar

L358[07:34:07] <howtonotwin> I'd assume it means the API is packaged in your own JAR

L359[07:39:55] <Koward_> "Minecarft" sounds so good.

L360[07:43:22] <gigaherz|work> i'm more of a Minceraft

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L367[08:09:08] <gigaherz> So I had to leave work cos I was braindead, took an aspirin, and now i'm sitting at my desk at home

L368[08:09:36] <gigaherz> anyone wanna help me come up with a way to procedurally generate cliffs on a voxel terrain?

L369[08:10:04] <gigaherz> IIRC, minecraft manages that by purposefully "glitching" the generation

L370[08:10:19] <gigaherz> but I wanted something less hacky

L371[08:10:34] <Subaraki> hmmm

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L373[08:10:45] <Subaraki> ive always wondered how that happened actually

L374[08:10:53] <gigaherz> they have a "bug" in the worldgen

L375[08:11:01] <gigaherz> that causes chunks to not always be properly aligned with the terrain

L376[08:11:13] <gigaherz> creating differences around chunk borders

L377[08:11:28] <Subaraki> do you think you can make some kind of sine the starts at a certain direction ? max width like 10, sines fro mstart position to a random lenght

L378[08:11:40] <gigaherz> problem is

L379[08:11:56] <gigaherz> it woudl be relatively easy if I first generate the terrain

L380[08:12:04] <gigaherz> and then afterward I modify it up/down artificially

L381[08:12:21] <Subaraki> yeah

L382[08:12:25] <gigaherz> but I'd like the cliffs to be implicit in the elevation computations

L383[08:12:30] <Subaraki> hmm

L384[08:12:49] <gigaherz> which means I'd need something like cliffOffset(x,z)

L385[08:13:02] <gigaherz> that always returns the same cliffs for thesame seed and x,z coords

L386[08:13:14] <gigaherz> which makes it 10000x harder

L387[08:13:19] <gigaherz> hence why I'm asking here ;P

L388[08:13:49] <Subaraki> well, i might be a bad shot xD

L389[08:13:56] <Subaraki> i like things easy ._.

L390[08:14:39] <gigaherz> I'm thinking maybe perlin/simplex isn't the best kind of noise for this

L391[08:16:04] <gigaherz> I could try to come up with a different kind of procedural function, that generates sharp cuts in between smooth gradients

L392[08:16:14] <Koward_> I'd like for my redstone like system wires to boom when powered from two sides. A setting like Torch-Wire-Torch for example. But the capability I expose don't really know on what it is attached or even the other capability on the other side.

L393[08:17:11] <howtonotwin> when update: (if powerFromTwoSides boom else ...)?

L394[08:17:31] <gigaherz> why do you need a capability for this? what does it store?

L395[08:20:11] <Koward_> What is stored is the power received.

L396[08:21:08] <gigaherz> oh I suppose you have more than 16 levels ;P

L397[08:21:10] <howtonotwin> Well if you have a directional power system, wouldn't it only make sense for the capability to know that?

L398[08:22:10] <Koward_> So instead of two receiver capabilities (one on each side), just one with the direction passed in.

L399[08:22:26] <Koward_> Mmm that could work.

L400[08:23:20] <howtonotwin> I meant something like a getPowerFlow(EnumFacing): enum { IN, OUT, NONE }

L401[08:23:29] <howtonotwin> so the torches have power flowing out

L402[08:23:42] <howtonotwin> and if a wire finds two blocks connected to it

L403[08:23:44] <howtonotwin> that both output

L404[08:23:46] <howtonotwin> boom

L405[08:24:08] <Koward_> Yeah but it feels duplicate with getCapability(EnumFacing)

L406[08:24:17] <howtonotwin> well you can just drop the EnumFacing

L407[08:24:27] <howtonotwin> you already have it from get/hasCap

L408[08:26:06] <Koward_> Even if I do that, to know where it should boom it needs at least some kind of object or pos&world, only the TE has that. And the TE does not know when power has been added to its cap

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L410[08:27:14] <howtonotwin> I don't think exploding should be part of the main capability...

L411[08:27:45] <Koward_> Indeed, but only the capability knows when it has received power and could do the check.

L412[08:28:34] <Koward_> What I want is really just check a cap but from the TE point of view I can't know when since I don't know when power will be added to the cap.

L413[08:28:51] <howtonotwin> have a subclass of the capability, ExplodingCapability, where you pass in a IExplosionHandler that handles the explosion

L414[08:29:07] <howtonotwin> now you can have a main cap class that won't surprise you by exploding

L415[08:29:13] <howtonotwin> and then a subclass which will

L416[08:29:17] <howtonotwin> and it knows how to explode

L417[08:29:28] <howtonotwin> because it has been passed an IExplosionHandler

L418[08:29:30] <howtonotwin> or something :P

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L420[08:31:34] <Koward_> So just calling the handler during setPower methods ? I may aswell just pass the TE in constructor then.

L421[08:31:59] <Koward_> (to notify it)

L422[08:32:31] <howtonotwin> may as well use an inner class then :P

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L454[10:11:47] <Subaraki> best way of promoting mods ?

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L460[10:22:34] <gigaherz> Subaraki: talk with modpack authors and youtubers

L461[10:22:37] <gigaherz> do it right, though

L462[10:22:55] <gigaherz> spamming may be effective in gathering idiots, but it frowned upon by everyone else

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L464[10:29:33] <Ordinastie> anybody has an idea why my TE would appear dark with shaders ?

L465[10:29:34] <Ordinastie> http://puu.sh/rEcl2.jpg

L466[10:30:23] <fry> odds of 2 random gl things interacting succesfully are not that great

L467[10:30:50] <Ordinastie> (I don't think I'll bother trying to fix the forcefield at night : http://puu.sh/rEcnf.jpg > http://puu.sh/rEcnU.jpg )

L468[10:33:52] <Ordinastie> well, nvm, latest version where I use the batched buffer crash altogether

L469[10:34:36] <Ordinastie> I guess shadersmod expect addVertexData to put full quads data directly

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L471[10:38:22] <tterrag> and by shadersmod you mean optifine

L472[10:38:26] <Ordinastie> yes

L473[10:38:30] <tterrag> optifine makes a TON of invalid assumptions

L474[10:38:53] <tterrag> and it's your fault when you don't comply with these undocumented assumptions

L475[10:38:57] <tterrag> woo

L476[10:39:18] <Ordinastie> I've already had user complain to them for the crash

L477[10:39:46] <Ordinastie> but if there is a way I can avoid it, maybe I should try to make it

L478[10:40:03] <tterrag> that's what I figured too, but how are you meant to debug?

L479[10:40:05] <Ordinastie> because I don't really beleive in the chances they fix it themselves

L480[10:40:22] <Ordinastie> right now ?

L481[10:40:33] <tterrag> good luck getting OF in your dev env

L482[10:40:35] <Ordinastie> wild guess on the reason of the crash, quick fix to see if I'm right

L483[10:40:39] <Ordinastie> if not, fuck it

L484[10:41:01] <Ordinastie> no, I'll have to build and copy to runtime env *-*

L485[10:41:08] <tterrag> OF has passed the critical mass of hacks. there's just too much junk that fixing it is impossible

L486[10:41:14] <tterrag> merging shadermod into it was the worst decision ever

L487[10:41:18] <Subaraki> gigaherz, i never knew how to message youtubers

L488[10:41:59] <Ordinastie> was shaders mods opensource before ?

L489[10:42:10] <Ordinastie> well, s/open/visible/

L490[10:42:45] <tterrag> I don't think so

L491[10:42:48] <tterrag> and it had its own problems

L492[10:42:59] <tterrag> but merging it in with MOAR HAX helped no one

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L494[10:46:04] <Ordinastie> is there an Array.addAll(intoArray, offset, sourceArray) somewhere ?

L495[10:46:22] <Ordinastie> ah, yes, System.arrayCopy

L496[10:47:06] <gigaherz> I was about to say, that's usually called copy, rather than add

L497[10:47:07] <gigaherz> ;P

L498[10:47:35] <gigaherz> Subaraki: they often have contact info for business contact ;P

L499[10:47:39] <Ordinastie> I always forget there is this rogue function that's not in Arrays. nor ArrayUtils. :p

L500[10:47:52] <gigaherz> or DMs on twitter or such

L501[10:48:14] <gigaherz> yeah no idea why that's not just Array.copy ;P

L502[10:48:23] <Ordinastie> it's native

L503[10:48:39] <Ordinastie> well, I assume that's the reason

L504[10:49:09] <gigaherz> wait the Array class is in reflect

L505[10:49:11] <gigaherz> nm

L506[10:51:30] <Ordinastie> ok, time to see if my fix actually fixes something :s

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L508[10:54:23] <Ordinastie> it doesn't crash on dev, so that's something

L509[10:55:18] <gr8pefish> Can someone link me something on how to set up a dev enviro for 1.10 (with IDEA)? For some reason I can't remember how (even though I already have 2 working projects doing so)

L510[10:55:55] <IoP> cpw's videos help

L511[10:57:30] <Ordinastie> tterrag, so, my guess was pretty good, it doesn't crash anymore

L512[10:57:33] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/efa0f296275c42388b574c579b4fc420#configuring-forge-with-intellij-idea

L513[10:57:35] <Ordinastie> instead : http://puu.sh/rEdMd.jpg :(

L514[10:57:37] <gigaherz> try these steps

L515[10:57:46] <gigaherz> gr8pefish ^

L516[10:59:11] <gr8pefish> thanks giga. I know tis super simple, just having trouble this morning :P

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L522[11:06:37] <wundrweapon> ping

L523[11:07:06] <gigaherz> ping who? ;P

L524[11:07:20] <gr8pefish> pong

L525[11:07:26] <wundrweapon> kek

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L527[11:09:21] <wundrweapon> is there an event for a player (or any entity, for that matter) using an item?

L528[11:10:47] <gr8pefish> PlayerInteractEvert.RightClickItem?

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L530[11:11:41] <LexLap2> ugh fucking morons...

L531[11:11:43] <wundrweapon> thx <3

L532[11:11:59] <wundrweapon> damn right I'm a moron

L533[11:12:03] <LexLap2> wake up read my pending, "here s a coremod to fix this issue for you!" instead of "heres a 1 line PR!"

L534[11:12:15] <gigaherz> wundrweapon: Idont' think that was to you ;P

L535[11:12:29] <wundrweapon> gigaherz: oh kek

L536[11:12:53] <gigaherz> however, you said that, not us ;P

L537[11:13:11] * wundrweapon has no idea what Lex means by a "1 line PR," and as such, will simply dip out of this conversation for a while

L538[11:13:44] <howtonotwin> It appears his comment no longer exists :P

L539[11:13:59] <LexLap2> no, it doesnt, and hes lucky he isnt banned from the repo

L540[11:14:34] <howtonotwin> "System.out.println("OPCODEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:" + target.getOpcode());"

L541[11:14:34] <gigaherz> wundrweapon: PR means github pull request, as in, contributing changes to Forge itself

L542[11:14:37] <howtonotwin> wtf is this

L543[11:14:54] <LexLap2> That is a sign of a moron

L544[11:14:55] <gigaherz> it's strongly recommended to avoid coremods at all costs

L545[11:15:08] <LatvianModder> Lex, #3155 <.<

L546[11:15:12] <wundrweapon> oh that kind of PR

L547[11:15:55] <gigaherz> for most of us, when someone does something stupid like that, we just facepalm, but Lex has to deal with it as his job

L548[11:16:06] * wundrweapon is very happy that the FMLCommon bus and the EVENT_BUS are now equal

L549[11:17:11] <LatvianModder> why ORE_GEN and TERRAIN_GEN arent though?

L550[11:17:26] <gigaherz> imagine that all the worldgen events

L551[11:17:29] <gigaherz> were added to the main bus

L552[11:17:42] <gigaherz> or the opposite

L553[11:17:45] <LatvianModder> But imagine all the Tick events and render tick events that go trough EVENT_BUS

L554[11:17:47] <LatvianModder> EVERY TICK

L555[11:17:51] <LatvianModder> Like 10 of them

L556[11:17:51] <gigaherz> yeah

L557[11:17:54] <gigaherz> so

L558[11:18:02] <gigaherz> imagine that worldgen, which is speed-critical

L559[11:18:03] <LatvianModder> Why isnt there TICK_BUS or smth?

L560[11:18:15] <gigaherz> had to sort through the non-worldgen events

L561[11:18:33] <wundrweapon> by the sound of it, I should be glad I'm not dealing with terraingen/oregen

L562[11:18:47] <howtonotwin> no it's fine :P

L563[11:19:21] <howtonotwin> except for the part where you have to learn calculus to write a good generator /s :P

L564[11:19:44] <wundrweapon> that there ^

L565[11:19:46] <wundrweapon> no thx

L566[11:19:52] <LatvianModder> WTF idea http://ss.latmod.com/pc/2016-10-10_19.19.59.mp4

L567[11:20:00] <gigaherz> I'm still hoping someone can help me come up with a scheme for procedurally generating cliffs

L568[11:20:00] <gigaherz> ;P

L569[11:20:35] <fry> learn calculus.

L570[11:20:38] <fry> :P

L571[11:20:46] <gigaherz> ;P

L572[11:21:29] <howtonotwin> Have a secondary "cliff generator" that is almost always 1, but every so often dips down to something like .25. Then multiply that by the main noise to produce sharp dips every so often?

L573[11:21:29] <wundrweapon> tmw you name your rightclick thing rickclick

L574[11:21:37] <howtonotwin> ^bad ideas by HTNW

L575[11:22:16] <wundrweapon> howtonotwin: you need to teach me something

L576[11:22:17] <gigaherz> howtonotwin: problem is if it just "dips down", it will generate valleys, rather than cliffs

L577[11:22:21] <gigaherz> it will be smooth on both sides

L578[11:22:22] <Ordinastie> !gm func_178975_e

L579[11:22:22] <wundrweapon> teach me how not to win

L580[11:22:28] <gigaherz> I'd need something that has a sharp break

L581[11:22:28] <gigaherz> XD

L582[11:22:38] <howtonotwin> sawtooth waves?

L583[11:22:39] <LatvianModder> x = y

L584[11:22:42] <LatvianModder> then y = 0

L585[11:22:45] <gigaherz> too predictable

L586[11:22:47] <gigaherz> also

L587[11:22:57] <gigaherz> I'd need for the cliffs to not look like random circles

L588[11:23:04] <gigaherz> so far the best idea I have been able to come up with

L589[11:23:09] <gigaherz> is to have two separate generators

L590[11:23:13] <gigaherz> one with cliffs and one without

L591[11:23:14] <howtonotwin> and in order to not win, you have to mod for 1.7.10

L592[11:23:16] <gigaherz> and use max(a,b)

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L594[11:23:17] <howtonotwin> :P

L595[11:23:37] <fry> something something frequences

L596[11:23:53] <fry> lowpass hipass e.t.c.

L597[11:24:55] <LatvianModder> datass

L598[11:25:28] <howtonotwin> smooth

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L600[11:25:45] <fry> >.>

L601[11:26:09] <howtonotwin> <fry> >.>

L602[11:26:13] <fry> oh my god becky

L603[11:28:33] <howtonotwin> perhaps see how MC makes ravines and put a - before it :P

L604[11:28:49] <gigaherz> those "features" are generated afterward

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L606[11:28:58] <gigaherz> I wantedto avoid that ;p

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L608[11:32:38] <tschm> how often is the forge version updated? I noticed there is a v...2099 out?`

L609[11:33:03] <quadraxis> normally there's a build for every commit

L610[11:33:09] <gigaherz> every time someone pushes something

L611[11:33:15] <LatvianModder> Am I the only insane person that plays with Smooth Lighting: OFF?

L612[11:33:32] <tschm> should i update to every version or skip some versions?

L613[11:33:47] <tschm> i am not at 2095

L614[11:33:49] <tschm> *now

L615[11:35:07] <tschm> and what do i need to replace or change when updating?

L616[11:35:20] <McJty> tschm, normally nothing

L617[11:35:24] <McJty> And no, you don't have to update all the time

L618[11:35:30] <McJty> I only update when I need some fix in forge

L619[11:35:36] <McJty> Or when I want to test against recommended

L620[11:35:47] <tschm> alright, then i won't bother with the latest version :)

L621[11:36:40] <gigaherz> oooh this looks nicer than I expected

L622[11:36:43] <gigaherz> I'm onto something :3

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L624[11:37:31] <LexLap2> Really need to make that command ping with the full meessage then ban him

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L626[11:39:16] <gigaherz> tschm: try to use a normal PM rather than DCC Chat

L627[11:39:19] <gigaherz> ;P

L628[11:39:32] <tschm> i'll do ;)

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L632[11:44:06] <LexLap2> test

L633[11:44:35] <wundrweapon> pong

L634[11:46:42] <LexLap2> anyone volventeer to be a test?

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L636[11:47:20] <gigaherz> depends on the test

L637[11:47:24] <LatvianModder> If you merge PermissionAPI, maybe <.<

L638[11:47:29] <gigaherz> I'm going grocery shopping in a fewm inutes

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L640[11:47:42] <LexLap2> I like how yall are skeptical

L641[11:47:48] <LexLap2> LatvianModder, is it PRable?

L642[11:48:00] <LatvianModder> From my side, nothing to add

L643[11:48:11] <LexLap2> then ill look at it when i get a chance

L644[11:48:17] <LatvianModder> Ok, thanks

L645[11:48:45] <LexLap2> Almost one getting over the fucking con plague

L646[11:48:51] <LexLap2> done*

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L648[11:50:15] <gigaherz> I got a cold here, no idea if it's related to me visiting Barcelona Games Week on friday. Either that or just the season.

L649[11:55:11] <howtonotwin> I'll be your test subject lex :P

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L652[11:57:17] <Ordinastie> has someone used the FastTESR in his mod ?

L653[11:57:43] <howtonotwin> doesn't forge have an example fasttesr?

L654[11:57:50] <Ordinastie> that's not my question :)

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L656[12:02:49] <Ordinastie> no, noone ?

L657[12:02:59] <Praaug> hey there o/

L658[12:03:13] <howtonotwin> \o

L659[12:03:14] <McJty> I always plan to look at it but I didn't get around to using it yet

L660[12:03:25] <fry> what would you like to know, Ordinastie? :P

L661[12:04:02] <Ordinastie> I want to check if that is my fault : http://puu.sh/rEhro.jpg

L662[12:04:05] <Ordinastie> or yours :p

L663[12:04:23] <gr8pefish> is there any consolidated documentation for the new events for forge for registering (i.e. somethign like RegisterItemEvent) (or even just a class dir I can look up in the source)?

L664[12:04:27] <fry> probably yours :P

L665[12:04:48] <fry> step 1: reproduce without optifine

L666[12:04:49] <howtonotwin> It looks beautiful in a Lovecraftian way

L667[12:04:51] <howtonotwin> :P

L668[12:04:52] <Ordinastie> when I say yours, I mean optifine

L669[12:05:03] <Ordinastie> no, without optifine is works fine

L670[12:05:14] <fry> then not my fault :P

L671[12:06:03] <Ordinastie> that only happens when I use the batched buffer

L672[12:06:18] <Ordinastie> but I want to check if it happens with others too

L673[12:06:33] <fry> and what is batched buffer?

L674[12:06:48] <Ordinastie> the buffer you use for FastTESR

L675[12:07:30] <LexLap2> oh hey how volenteered

L676[12:07:36] <LexLap2> Timebaned howtonotwin For: (1) 1 test

L677[12:08:03] <LatvianModder> How much time is one test? :P

L678[12:08:58] <LexLap2> Timebaned howtonotwin For: (1) 1 TEST long message that will get cut off somewhere down the line because stupid kick messages have limited lengths and are dumb and stupid and their mom dresses them funny

L679[12:09:00] <LatvianModder> What is gradle setupCiWorkspace task?

L680[12:09:02] <LexLap2> DAMMET

L681[12:09:06] <howtonotwin> :P

L682[12:09:27] <howtonotwin> Lat: CI workspace is the very basic essentials to build a forge mod

L683[12:09:40] <LatvianModder> oh. so it doesnt create run folders and what not?

L684[12:09:41] <howtonotwin> meant for build servers

L685[12:09:53] <LexLap2> Timebaned howtonotwin For: (1) TEST long message that will get cut off somewhere down the line because stupid kick messages have limited lengths and are dumb and stupid and their mom dresses them funny

L686[12:09:53] *** howtonotwin was kicked by MineBot (Banned: (1) TEST long message that will get cut off somewhere down the line because stupid kick messages have limited l))

L687[12:09:57] <LexLap2> there we go

L688[12:10:02] <LatvianModder> hah

L689[12:10:33] <LexLap2> ping with full reason and moved the time to the front so they always see it

L690[12:10:42] <Ordinastie> if you say the message before the kick, maybe it's not necessary to repeat it in the kick message

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L692[12:10:57] <LexLap2> No it is because that message is used if they try and join again

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L694[12:11:05] <LexLap2> on a different ip

L695[12:11:05] <Ordinastie> ah

L696[12:11:28] <howtonotwin> run `gradle tasks --all` to see what every task does

L697[12:12:05] <Ordinastie> holy shit, that's many tasks :x

L698[12:12:25] <howtonotwin> not that many

L699[12:12:26] <howtonotwin> :P

L700[12:14:34] <LexLap2> forge does a lot of shit, plus all the normal gradle shit

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L705[12:18:56] <illy> Beep o/

L706[12:19:22] <PitchBright> o/

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L708[12:28:21] <jordibenck> my minecraft is stuck in loading screen when in debug mode, anyone had before?

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L710[12:29:51] <barteks2x> maybe you have some conditional breakpoint that slows it down so badly?

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L713[12:32:02] <jordibenck> seems to be the problem ye

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L715[12:32:22] <jordibenck> ty

L716[12:33:27] <Ordinastie> !gm func_180446_a

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L726[13:12:55] <wundrweapon> would there be any harm in having my ArrowLooseEvent handler class extend ItemBow or Item?

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L731[13:16:54] <wundrweapon> wb

L732[13:21:29] <LatvianModder> https://jitpack.io, where have you been all my life?!

L733[13:23:07] <IoP> it's weird that the spammers are targerting only one form...

L734[13:23:17] <IoP> and wrong channel

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L744[13:42:14] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> I'm trying to make an AI that will make mobs attracted to a certain block, however I can't seem to make it look natural. Did anyone do this before and could share their source?

L745[13:45:03] <Subaraki> Ferdz_TheWeeb, I did something similar

L746[13:45:06] <Subaraki> made a feeding block once

L747[13:45:38] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Can I please take a look at the source?

L748[13:45:46] <Subaraki> the tile entity from the block checked every random 7500 ticks the boundingbox + 10 blocks around him

L749[13:46:05] <Subaraki> if any entities where near, their path would be set towards the block

L750[13:46:13] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Uhmm

L751[13:46:21] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> So you didn't go through an EntityBaseAI?

L752[13:46:24] <DemonWav> barteks2x in your mod you have a few typos in your mcmod.info :p

L753[13:46:25] <Subaraki> Ferdz_TheWeeb, i'm sorry to anounce you that i no longe rhave the code

L754[13:46:28] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> This is what I have so far http://pastebin.com/WgNtUVQh

L755[13:46:28] <Subaraki> no

L756[13:46:36] <Subaraki> entity.getnavigator.setpathto

L757[13:46:55] <barteks2x> I know, I'm going to fix them once I get around changing things in mcmod.info

L758[13:47:09] <Subaraki> ive never done ai realy

L759[13:47:13] <Subaraki> my block was my own

L760[13:47:16] <Subaraki> so i did stuff from there

L761[13:47:27] <Subaraki> have discontinued the mod since 1.6 and gave it to someone else

L762[13:47:35] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> I see

L763[13:47:37] <Subaraki> have no more source code of any kind for that

L764[13:47:40] <barteks2x> And I will probably need to rename it so that it's not the same name as existing beta 1.7.3 mod

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L767[13:54:22] <quadraxis> so, how do I get a single commit into a forge PR?

L768[13:54:40] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Subaraki, wasn't there a problem where the mobs will get their AI overriden by your block?

L769[13:54:42] <howtonotwin> explain more?

L770[13:54:58] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Like for example they will stop running away from someone who hit them

L771[13:56:08] <Subaraki> probably do

L772[13:56:15] <Subaraki> but mine were sheep and cows

L773[13:56:19] <Subaraki> it was a feeder

L774[13:56:49] <Subaraki> so i didnt really worry about it

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L776[13:56:57] <Subaraki> you could check if the entity actually has a path set

L777[13:57:07] <Subaraki> if navigator.hasPath or getPath != null

L778[13:57:10] <Subaraki> something liek that

L779[13:57:40] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Yeah

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L781[14:05:28] <howtonotwin> <quadraxis> so, how do I get a single commit into a forge PR?

L782[14:05:29] <howtonotwin> ?

L783[14:06:00] <SquareWheel> As in, rebasing a branch instead of merging?

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L785[14:09:03] <ghz|afk> quadraxis: git rebase -i

L786[14:09:09] <ghz|afk> or whatever the equivalent is for your git frontend

L787[14:11:43] <PaleoCrafter> inb4 all they want to do is squash their commits which isn't even necessary anymore

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L792[14:22:21] <quadraxis> it's me being dumb and failing to plan for having multiple PRs

L793[14:23:23] <quadraxis> so now I need to get the original out of the history for the second

L794[14:24:00] <howtonotwin> use rebase

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L796[14:24:27] <howtonotwin> can you explain how your history is right now?

L797[14:25:24] <quadraxis> messy

L798[14:25:26] <quadraxis> https://github.com/bs2609/MinecraftForge/network

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L800[14:27:15] <howtonotwin> first thing you should do is pull 1.10.x up to date with the original repo

L801[14:27:23] <howtonotwin> and then push that

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L803[14:28:41] <howtonotwin> remote git history management

L804[14:28:49] <howtonotwin> what has my life come to :P

L805[14:28:50] <howtonotwin> (jk)

L806[14:29:06] <TechnicianLP> pulling the battery from my laptop fixed my sound O.o #Technology

L807[14:29:34] * howtonotwin shoves TechnicianLP into a computer repair shop

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L809[14:33:13] <quadraxis> well i did that

L810[14:33:30] <howtonotwin> now

L811[14:33:45] <howtonotwin> with HEAD on the tip of that branch

L812[14:33:47] <howtonotwin> create a new branch

L813[14:33:55] <howtonotwin> call it something related to your PR

L814[14:33:57] <howtonotwin> idc

L815[14:34:00] <howtonotwin> just make it

L816[14:34:15] <ghz|afk> just out of curiosity -- I have no intention on doing it

L817[14:34:15] <howtonotwin> or else you'll end up having to rescue commits from the reflog

L818[14:34:31] <ghz|afk> is there any mod in existance that caches the compiled atlas across reloads?

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L820[14:35:25] <quadraxis> ok made a new branch from up-to-date 1.10.x

L821[14:35:33] <howtonotwin> alright

L822[14:35:46] <howtonotwin> so what did you call the MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge remote?

L823[14:36:14] <howtonotwin> your own GH repo and the original repo both have a name, what are they?

L824[14:36:43] <gr8pefish> when saving data on the client (just to sync it up with the server, I know it's not ideal), does that get saved anywhere? I.E. You have a capability on your server player, then you update it and have to let the client know, so your mirror the capability for the client player. Does that get saved in a player.dat file anywhere? I know you can go to world/playerdata/name.dat, but is there another spot for the

L825[14:36:43] <gr8pefish> client specific data? Also feel free to let me know if I just misunderstand how it works conceptually.

L826[14:37:52] <quadraxis> repo's just called MinecraftForge

L827[14:38:26] <howtonotwin> ok

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L829[14:39:15] <howtonotwin> git rebase --interactive MinecraftForge/1.10.x 1.10.x --onto MinecraftForge/1.10.x

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L831[14:40:16] <howtonotwin> i.e. find where my 1.10.x and the original diverge, take all the commits after that, and then paste them on top of original 1.10.x, allowing you to edit something along the way

L832[14:40:38] <howtonotwin> delete all the lines that are part of your own PR

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L834[14:43:06] <howtonotwin> after you do that

L835[14:43:13] <howtonotwin> screenshot `gitk --all`

L836[14:43:19] <howtonotwin> so I can make sure everything is sane

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L838[14:45:33] <howtonotwin> also if you got stuck in vim and have no idea what you're doing

L839[14:45:39] <howtonotwin> scream loudly

L840[14:45:40] <howtonotwin> :P

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L842[14:47:46] <howtonotwin> quadraxis?

L843[14:47:59] <quadraxis> here

L844[14:48:17] <howtonotwin> success? fail?

L845[14:48:18] <quadraxis> still looking at output from rebase

L846[14:48:38] <howtonotwin> it's like a list of commands

L847[14:48:51] <howtonotwin> imagine that you're on MinecraftForge/1.10.x

L848[14:49:11] <howtonotwin> and each line is says "copy commit XXXXX and paste it here, then commit it"

L849[14:49:33] <howtonotwin> actually

L850[14:49:34] <howtonotwin> nvm

L851[14:49:36] <howtonotwin> I did a dumb

L852[14:49:40] <howtonotwin> delete the entire file

L853[14:49:44] <howtonotwin> empty it

L854[14:49:44] <quadraxis> im assuming i want to edit the single pick <commit>to drop <commit>?

L855[14:49:53] <howtonotwin> just delete every line

L856[14:49:57] <howtonotwin> I'm an idiot

L857[14:50:58] <howtonotwin> once you've deleted every line and therefore canceled the rebase

L858[14:51:03] <howtonotwin> git checkout 1.10.x

L859[14:51:11] <howtonotwin> git reset --hard MinecraftForge/1.10.x

L860[14:51:47] <howtonotwin> sorry for wild goose chase ;_;

L861[14:52:06] <quadraxis> ok need to escape vim first

L862[14:52:25] <howtonotwin> you deleted all the lines?

L863[14:52:57] <quadraxis> afaik

L864[14:53:08] <howtonotwin> <ESC>:x

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L867[14:56:02] <quadraxis> ok all done

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L869[14:56:38] <howtonotwin> screenshot `gitk --all`?

L870[14:56:54] <howtonotwin> periodic sanity checks are a must in git :P

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L872[14:59:28] <quadraxis> http://imgur.com/OBtC6JT

L873[15:01:44] <howtonotwin> rebase time!

L874[15:02:10] <howtonotwin> git rebase 1.10.x the-branch-you-worked-on --interactive

L875[15:04:54] <quadraxis> ok got two commits, and I only want one

L876[15:05:08] <howtonotwin> delete the lines you don't want

L877[15:05:23] <howtonotwin> and then save

L878[15:05:42] <quadraxis> :s ?

L879[15:05:52] <howtonotwin> :w

L880[15:05:52] <howtonotwin> :q

L881[15:05:56] <howtonotwin> :wq

L882[15:05:57] <howtonotwin> :x

L883[15:06:02] <howtonotwin> :P

L884[15:06:05] <howtonotwin> oh

L885[15:06:11] <howtonotwin> :P is not a command

L886[15:06:41] <fry> :P

L887[15:07:23] <howtonotwin> By the Gods, the Gods speak to me!

L888[15:07:30] <howtonotwin> :P

L889[15:08:30] <quadraxis> all vim commands carefully chosen to avoid confliect with emoticons

L890[15:08:59] <howtonotwin> indeed

L891[15:09:26] <howtonotwin> oh it is a command

L892[15:09:32] <howtonotwin> alias for :print

L893[15:09:43] <howtonotwin> but for people who press shift for too long (wtf)

L894[15:10:40] <beschio> What's the standard for the modid when the mod has spaces? -, _ or nothing?

L895[15:10:41] <quadraxis> anyway, rebase successful

L896[15:11:14] <howtonotwin> gitk?

L897[15:11:18] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Anyone know about the AI mutex bits thing?

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L899[15:11:20] <beschio> Or rather the modname has spaces

L900[15:11:30] <howtonotwin> I'd say _

L901[15:11:36] <howtonotwin> going by the snake_case_convention

L902[15:11:40] <howtonotwin> but not sure

L903[15:11:46] <quadraxis> i like mod_name

L904[15:11:58] <beschio> Alright cool. Thanks!

L905[15:12:01] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> My modid is UpperCamelCase

L906[15:12:15] <howtonotwin> that's not going to sit well in 1.11 :P

L907[15:12:24] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> fml

L908[15:12:34] <beschio> Hmm.. What's happening in 1.11 in regards to that?

L909[15:12:42] <howtonotwin> I don't see what the mod loader has to do with this...? /s

L910[15:12:43] <gr8pefish> easy to change assuming it's in a constants file, right... :P

L911[15:12:48] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Oh nevermind it's plain lowercase

L912[15:13:01] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Yeah but the blockstates :P

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L914[15:14:19] <quadraxis> http://imgur.com/YqAOAtF

L915[15:14:48] <howtonotwin> u_u

L916[15:14:56] <howtonotwin> I have literally no idea what's what anymore

L917[15:15:09] <howtonotwin> GIT!

L918[15:15:27] <howtonotwin> at this point

L919[15:15:33] <howtonotwin> 1.10.x has been unfucked

L920[15:15:39] <howtonotwin> so just check that out

L921[15:15:43] <howtonotwin> make a branch on it

L922[15:15:54] <howtonotwin> and cherry-pick everything you want to keep

L923[15:16:06] <howtonotwin> then use git branch -D to kill everything else

L924[15:16:47] <bartman> 1.11 a big change?

L925[15:16:56] <bartman> again? :(

L926[15:17:03] <howtonotwin> jeb said 1.11 is internal changes

L927[15:17:11] <howtonotwin> that will make some mods hard to port

L928[15:17:18] <howtonotwin> so take that as you will

L929[15:17:45] <howtonotwin> but at least now we might start seeing non-crappy code design from them

L930[15:18:02] <tterrag> grum said the main problem will be "inventory changes"

L931[15:18:15] <tterrag> one of said changes is that itemstack is becoming immutable

L932[15:18:18] <tterrag> but I would think there are others

L933[15:18:42] * howtonotwin almost dies of happiness at immutable ItemStacks

L934[15:19:06] <LexManos> they arnt immutable

L935[15:19:09] <LexManos> the items are

L936[15:19:19] * howtonotwin dies inside

L937[15:19:20] <LexManos> nbt, damage, size can all change still

L938[15:19:59] <tterrag> ah well yeah

L939[15:20:02] <tterrag> immutable item

L940[15:20:05] <tterrag> nothing else makes sense to be immutable

L941[15:20:17] <tterrag> should have clarified

L942[15:20:39] <tterrag> immutable itemstacks would be an interesting concept though

L943[15:20:42] <tterrag> no more .copy()

L944[15:20:56] <LexManos> would be nice but that would be costly

L945[15:20:56] <tterrag> however, could get ugly as currently you modify the NBT info directly

L946[15:21:00] <tterrag> yeah, it would

L947[15:21:05] <howtonotwin> Lenses?

L948[15:21:12] <LexManos> ItemStacks are BIG when you take into account NBT

L949[15:21:17] <tterrag> mhm

L950[15:21:24] <tterrag> could perhaps be a shallow copy for NBT, but then that's not very useful

L951[15:21:51] <tterrag> anyways, anyone else playing shenzhen IO ?

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L954[15:29:14] <quadraxis> ok, i managed to make an unfucked branch with my patches in

L955[15:29:21] <quadraxis> thanks howtonotwin

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L957[15:30:01] <beschio> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven 500 HTTP response?

L958[15:31:12] <LexManos> the root? ya probablyu

L959[15:31:45] <beschio> IntelliJ complains when trying to index it

L960[15:31:53] <ghz|afk> don't index, then

L961[15:31:54] <ghz|afk> ;P

L962[15:31:55] <howtonotwin> quad: np

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L965[15:41:40] <tterrag> lex: considering subdirs are browsable, why not root?

L966[15:44:44] <LatvianModder> "they arnt immutable" imagine if they were

L967[15:45:04] <LatvianModder> create new stack every time you want to change its size.. instantation nightmare

L968[15:45:20] <ghz|afk> if only java supported valuetypes ;P

L969[15:45:25] <LatvianModder> I guess its the same as strings being immutable

L970[15:45:31] <ghz|afk> yeah

L971[15:45:34] <ghz|afk> you'd have like

L972[15:45:38] <tterrag> except strings are heavily pooled

L973[15:45:47] <tterrag> and managed by the JVM as a special case

L974[15:45:50] <ghz|afk> stack.reduceBy(1)

L975[15:45:57] <ghz|afk> stack.withTag(blah)

L976[15:45:58] <LatvianModder> pretty much == now works on Strings

L977[15:46:20] <LatvianModder> I tested with a lot of them in many ways, all seem to have equal references

L978[15:46:25] <tterrag> nah, not always

L979[15:46:33] <LatvianModder> even things like new String("a") + "b" == "ab"

L980[15:46:42] <tterrag> sure, but it's not reliable

L981[15:46:49] <tterrag> it depends on the size of the string pool and the recency of use

L982[15:47:06] <LatvianModder> well yeah, im just saying that == works in *many* cases

L983[15:47:17] <TechnicianLP> iirc compiled strings get interned

L984[15:47:20] <LatvianModder> I think "" is also a special case, isnt it?

L985[15:48:16] <tterrag> LatvianModder: your above code can be inlined

L986[15:48:26] <tterrag> in fact, it could compile to 'true' for all you know

L987[15:48:33] <tterrag> since it involves no variables

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L989[15:48:50] <LatvianModder> I could try that with methods

L990[15:49:11] <LatvianModder> test("a") == test("a") and test returns s + "a" or smth

L991[15:49:24] <tterrag> do something like for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++) { a += "a"; } and then test a == "aaaaa"

L992[15:49:30] <tterrag> I wonder

L993[15:49:53] <LatvianModder> help.. my DevEnv now things for some reason that it's in Java 1.6

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L995[15:50:35] <LatvianModder> http://ss.latmod.com/pc/2016-10-10_23.50.50.png

L996[15:50:41] <LatvianModder> so the IDE now just yells at me

L997[15:50:51] <tterrag> sux 4 u

L998[15:50:54] <LatvianModder> Ive changed it to 1.8/8 wherever I could..

L999[15:51:03] <tterrag> I don't know IDEA :P

L1000[15:51:20] <LatvianModder> sux 4 u, because you really should :P

L1001[15:51:44] <Ordinastie> tterrag, a == "aaaaa" > false :p

L1002[15:54:53] <tterrag> Ordinastie: a being a variable

L1003[15:55:15] <Ordinastie> http://puu.sh/rEwKq.png

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L1006[15:56:57] <tterrag> ah

L1007[15:57:00] <tterrag> yeah, that's what I figured

L1008[15:57:50] <quadraxis> settings > build > compiler > java > bytecode version ?

L1009[15:59:36] <LatvianModder> 1.8

L1010[16:00:39] <LatvianModder> language level in modules - default (8)

L1011[16:01:03] <LatvianModder> in Project - 8

L1012[16:01:45] <Ordinastie> LatvianModder, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0

L1013[16:02:05] <LatvianModder> Yep

L1014[16:02:41] <LatvianModder> That's it, im resettupping (yep, a new word) Forge

L1015[16:03:31] <quadraxis> build.gradle ?

L1016[16:03:39] <LatvianModder> 1.8 in both

L1017[16:04:42] <Ordinastie> use Eclipse

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L1019[16:08:09] <secknv> ugh

L1020[16:08:11] <ghz|afk> LatvianModder: remember to click the blue refresh icon on the gradle panel

L1021[16:08:16] <LatvianModder> fuck no

L1022[16:08:17] <ghz|afk> after doing stuff that changes the gradle file

L1023[16:08:20] <LatvianModder> ghz|afk: I do, all the time

L1024[16:08:24] <ghz|afk> good.

L1025[16:08:54] <secknv> that feels when 0 modding cus there are still 20 pages of calculus problems in your desk tho

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L1027[16:10:19] <howtonotwin> time to write a calculus solving machine in MC then :P

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L1029[16:12:08] <ghz|afk> uhm

L1030[16:12:40] <ghz|afk> anyone else tried the registry events yet?

L1031[16:12:59] <ghz|afk> it appears that items/blocks registered from within the event using setRegistryName("string")

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L1033[16:13:09] <ghz|afk> will end up as "minecraft:string" rather than "mymod:string"

L1034[16:13:24] <ghz|afk> just want to confirm it's not just me

L1035[16:13:35] <howtonotwin> I know IContextSetters exist to do something about that

L1036[16:13:45] <howtonotwin> just haven't actually used them yet

L1037[16:14:09] <ghz|afk> hmm

L1038[16:14:11] <ghz|afk> let me try latets

L1039[16:14:16] <ghz|afk> I'm 3 versions behind ;p

L1040[16:16:30] <tschm_> i am trying to lead a custom model via ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(). I have the json in resources/assets.<modID>/models/block and load it after i register the block and itemblock

L1041[16:16:38] <howtonotwin> not assets.modid

L1042[16:16:41] <howtonotwin> assets/modid

L1043[16:17:10] <tschm_> they are actually two folders, yeah, was misleaded by intellij

L1044[16:17:53] <howtonotwin> logs

L1045[16:18:01] <howtonotwin> model errors = lots of stacktraces

L1046[16:18:06] <tschm_> and i do new ModelResourceLocation( "moss:firstPartialBlock", "inventory" )" moss is the mod name

L1047[16:18:24] <howtonotwin> note_that_you_should_be_using_snake_case

L1048[16:18:38] <howtonotwin> and_that_1_11_will_kill_you_otherwise

L1049[16:18:44] <ghz|afk> tschm_: the model you register with setCustomMRL is an *item* model

L1050[16:18:58] <ghz|afk> so you want a models/item/<blockname>

L1051[16:19:05] <ghz|afk> with "parent":"block/blockname"

L1052[16:19:17] <ghz|afk> or reference the model through the blockstates file.

L1053[16:19:22] <tschm_> i tried debugging the steps. The tut says one should debug ModelBakery.bakeModel and check the name of the parameter, but it is not called. The setCustomModel method IS called though

L1054[16:19:43] <howtonotwin> https://github.com/howtonotwin/MCForgeDocumentation/blob/models/docs/models/using.md#item-models

L1055[16:20:16] <tschm_> ahhh, alright, so with this step, it's only the item model in the inventory. To have a custom rendered block, i also have to register the block?

L1056[16:20:27] <howtonotwin> no

L1057[16:20:31] <howtonotwin> blocks are automatic

L1058[16:20:34] <howtonotwin> items are not

L1059[16:20:48] <ghz|afk> blocks go straight to the blockstates file

L1060[16:20:57] <ghz|afk> it's up to you to reference the block model from the blockstates json

L1061[16:21:02] <howtonotwin> see above section on blocks

L1062[16:21:43] <ghz|afk> okay it worked with the latest forge

L1063[16:21:46] <ghz|afk> time for me to sleep

L1064[16:21:49] * ghz|afk poofs

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L1066[16:22:23] <tschm_> i'll have a look on the docs, thx

L1067[16:22:44] <howtonotwin> np

L1068[16:22:54] <howtonotwin> that page is the single most linked page :P

L1069[16:23:53] <tterrag> nah

L1070[16:23:57] <tterrag> definitely gettingstarted

L1071[16:24:34] <howtonotwin> that hasn't even been mentioned here since UTC 0 :P

L1072[16:24:53] <howtonotwin> the models doc is ~2 times per day

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L1074[16:34:54] <Praaug> i'm new to modding and have a question: is there a list of the vanilla block names? I'm asking for the Block_model.json texture part.

L1075[16:35:33] <Ivorius> Try the Block class

L1076[16:35:41] <Ivorius> Or do like /setblock and press tab :P

L1077[16:36:19] <Praaug> ah. thx

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L1081[16:43:31] <tschm_> i want my block to just look like a standard dirt block, in the world but also in inventory. how would i do that?

L1082[16:44:20] <tschm_> I NEED a blockstate file under /models/blockstates named "<registryName>.json" and how would this small json look like in order to appear as dirt?

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L1084[16:45:15] <howtonotwin> you don't need a blockstate JSON :P

L1085[16:45:22] <howtonotwin> but you should have one anyway

L1086[16:45:31] <howtonotwin> the dirt model is just minecraft:dirt

L1087[16:45:54] <howtonotwin> so the blockstate is { "variants": { "normal": "minecraft:dirt" } }

L1088[16:45:57] <tschm_> so i would only have "texture": "minecraft:dirt" inside the normal

L1089[16:46:11] <howtonotwin> no, see above ^

L1090[16:46:26] <howtonotwin> also the wiki will tell you the format of the vanilla jsons

L1091[16:46:38] <howtonotwin> for the forge blockstate see the rtd page

L1092[16:46:58] <tschm_> didn't know i could just do "minecraft:dirt" without specifiing what i want to take from this block, like texture, model or whatever

L1093[16:47:12] <howtonotwin> derp

L1094[16:47:23] <tschm_> alright, i continue reading :)

L1095[16:47:34] <howtonotwin> "minecraft:dirt" -> { "model": "minecraft:dirt" }

L1096[16:47:44] <howtonotwin> you saw nothing >.>

L1097[16:47:45] <howtonotwin> <.<

L1098[16:47:57] <tschm_> ahh, ok, i was confused there for a second

L1099[16:48:13] <tschm_> but.. wouldn't it be "texture" then?

L1100[16:48:18] <tschm_> oh no.. model does include texture, right?

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L1102[16:48:39] <howtonotwin> yes

L1103[16:48:48] <howtonotwin> it does include the textures

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L1105[16:53:49] <tschm_> do i have to load the block model explicitly? Or is it sufficient to only have a blockstate json and it will load the model?

L1106[16:54:56] <howtonotwin> just having the file

L1107[16:54:58] <howtonotwin> will do it

L1108[16:55:07] <howtonotwin> also would you like some more in depth model docs?

L1109[16:55:23] <tschm_> appreciate it

L1110[16:55:36] <howtonotwin> https://github.com/howtonotwin/MCForgeDocumentation/tree/models/docs/models

L1111[16:55:51] <howtonotwin> read them in this order: https://github.com/howtonotwin/MCForgeDocumentation/blob/models/mkdocs.yml#L13-L20

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L1114[16:56:01] <howtonotwin> yell at me if my writing's bad

L1115[16:56:13] <howtonotwin> (seriously, proofreaders are very helpful)

L1116[16:56:39] <tschm_> when having a blockstate json, is a itemblock required? because when loading the model that has the dirt model it says "expceotion loading model for variant moss:BlockA#inventory for item "moss:BlockA"

L1117[16:56:44] <howtonotwin> no

L1118[16:56:54] <howtonotwin> logs!

L1119[16:57:19] <tschm_> you want the log?

L1120[16:57:22] <howtonotwin> yep

L1121[16:57:51] <tschm_> http://pastebin.com/WvWXK3BJ

L1122[16:58:24] <howtonotwin> can I see the JSON?

L1123[16:58:42] <tschm_> http://pastebin.com/hRNvmKA3

L1124[16:59:03] <howtonotwin> ah

L1125[16:59:12] <howtonotwin> the item is going to the inventory variant

L1126[16:59:16] <howtonotwin> which doesn't exist

L1127[16:59:30] <howtonotwin> copy the "normal" variant

L1128[16:59:35] <howtonotwin> and rename it "inventory"

L1129[16:59:38] <howtonotwin> that'll do it

L1130[17:00:05] <tschm_> i try that

L1131[17:00:16] <howtonotwin> (you also could just send the item model to the vanilla item model (same is true for the block actually), but that's frowned upon)

L1132[17:01:26] <tschm_> new json http://pastebin.com/UuzMmExG new log http://pastebin.com/UuzMmExG

L1133[17:01:50] <SquareWheel> Same link

L1134[17:01:55] <tschm_> oh great..

L1135[17:02:01] <tschm_> http://pastebin.com/aQGPEb5c

L1136[17:02:35] <SquareWheel> Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: moss:models/item/BlockA.json

L1137[17:02:37] <howtonotwin> ???

L1138[17:02:41] <howtonotwin> SW: two stacktraces

L1139[17:02:48] <howtonotwin> you have to go for the lower one

L1140[17:02:58] <SquareWheel> I'm jumping in late, should probably read back a bit first.

L1141[17:02:59] <howtonotwin> it's MVE-ing

L1142[17:03:09] <SquareWheel> Oh that fun one.

L1143[17:03:11] <howtonotwin> even though it exists for real?

L1144[17:03:20] <howtonotwin> did you refresh your assets?

L1145[17:09:13] <Praaug> stupid question: how do i refresh my assets?

L1146[17:09:29] <howtonotwin> f5 in your ide

L1147[17:09:37] <SquareWheel> Just give 'em a spritz of water. Very refreshing

L1148[17:09:39] <howtonotwin> at least in eclipse

L1149[17:09:42] <howtonotwin> or that

L1150[17:09:50] <howtonotwin> if your computer is ok with water

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L1152[17:10:24] <tschm_> well the files should all be up to date

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L1154[17:10:38] <tschm_> but i am also wondering about the FileNotFound excp

L1155[17:10:45] <howtonotwin> nono

L1156[17:10:47] <howtonotwin> ignore it

L1157[17:10:51] <howtonotwin> totally ignore it

L1158[17:10:57] <howtonotwin> it tries first to load a blockstate

L1159[17:10:58] <howtonotwin> fails

L1160[17:11:09] <howtonotwin> and then tries to load a models/item model

L1161[17:11:12] <howtonotwin> and fails again

L1162[17:11:15] <SquareWheel> Yeah, my bad. Didn't read far enough.

L1163[17:11:21] <howtonotwin> the second one is expected to fail

L1164[17:11:26] <howtonotwin> only the first one matters

L1165[17:11:36] <howtonotwin> but the first one's stacktrace comes second

L1166[17:12:22] <howtonotwin> oh

L1167[17:12:32] <howtonotwin> it couldn't load the entire blockstate JSON

L1168[17:12:36] <howtonotwin> bc file not found

L1169[17:12:52] <howtonotwin> where did you put that thing?

L1170[17:12:56] <howtonotwin> what did you name it?

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L1172[17:13:36] <howtonotwin> same is true for BlockB

L1173[17:13:37] <tschm_> http://imgur.com/a/TL6or

L1174[17:13:46] <howtonotwin> capitalization

L1175[17:13:58] <howtonotwin> and

L1176[17:14:04] <howtonotwin> it's assets/moss/blockstates

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L1178[17:14:18] <tschm_> outside models?...

L1179[17:14:20] <howtonotwin> yes

L1180[17:14:25] <tschm_> gnaaarf :(

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L1182[17:14:28] <howtonotwin> also snake_case

L1183[17:14:29] <tschm_> my bad, sry

L1184[17:14:55] <tschm_> you mean block_a instead of blocka?

L1185[17:15:00] <howtonotwin> and no need for names like blocka or blockb in models

L1186[17:15:00] <howtonotwin> yes

L1187[17:15:12] <howtonotwin> models do not care if they are items or blocks

L1188[17:15:31] <howtonotwin> they are equally valid for both

L1189[17:15:35] <tschm_> this is just for tests, but yeah. normally i would use camel case, but for must-have lower case, this would be the preferred naming

L1190[17:16:37] <tschm_> block a and b are differnt blocks

L1191[17:16:42] <tschm_> or what do you mean?

L1192[17:16:50] <howtonotwin> I mean don't name them block_a

L1193[17:16:54] <howtonotwin> or block_b

L1194[17:16:59] <howtonotwin> or do the italics not work

L1195[17:17:05] <howtonotwin> emphasis on block

L1196[17:17:06] <howtonotwin> :P

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L1199[17:23:54] <tschm_> still have same error. I have two blocks. One has a custom model that does actually work. I have a itemblock model and blockstate json referring the model. The simple minecraft:dirt blockstate does nto work though :(

L1200[17:24:14] <howtonotwin> logs some more?

L1201[17:24:17] <tschm_> this is the new log

L1202[17:24:17] <tschm_> http://pastebin.com/ZPCZEisM

L1203[17:25:03] <howtonotwin> Caused by: com.google.gson.JsonSyntaxException: com.google.gson.stream.MalformedJsonException: Unterminated object at line 6 column 6

L1204[17:25:07] <howtonotwin> fix it

L1205[17:25:09] <howtonotwin> :P

L1206[17:25:15] <howtonotwin> I think you missed a comma

L1207[17:25:32] <tschm_> what, how could i missed that (exception AND comma) :o

L1208[17:26:30] <howtonotwin> the other model should be fine now

L1209[17:26:41] <howtonotwin> also no need to restart MC every time you change something in assets/

L1210[17:26:46] <howtonotwin> if you didn't change the code

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L1212[17:26:52] <howtonotwin> just refresh the files

L1213[17:26:54] <howtonotwin> and F3+T

L1214[17:27:04] <tschm_> ladies and gentleman... a dirt block *yaaaay*

L1215[17:27:31] <howtonotwin> trust me, you're one of the faster ones :P

L1216[17:27:37] <tschm_> though.. no itemblock that looks like dirt, which is the right behaviour, i guess?

L1217[17:27:49] <howtonotwin> what?

L1218[17:28:02] <tschm_> I would have to set a custom model for that in order to make it display a dirtblock in my hand?

L1219[17:28:19] <howtonotwin> yes, you'd have to do ModelLoader.setCustomMRL for the itemblock

L1220[17:28:25] <howtonotwin> an itemblock is just a normal item

L1221[17:28:29] <tschm_> I have a the default itemblock texture in gui and in hand, but when i place the block, it looks like dirt

L1222[17:28:35] <howtonotwin> yep

L1223[17:28:38] <tschm_> alright, is ee

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L1225[17:28:48] <tschm_> but then i finally managed to make this work :D

L1226[17:28:50] <tschm_> thx a lot

L1227[17:28:52] <howtonotwin> np

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L1229[17:32:57] <tschm_> it's a tough start and a huuge learning curve, i have to admit :D

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L1232[17:37:30] <Praaug> my problem was that the blockstates name was "blockA_registry" I changed it to "blockA_regitry.json" and now i have a dirt block too \o/

L1233[17:38:14] <Praaug> *"blockA_registry.json"

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L1238[17:47:12] <tschm_> to reference the dirt block as itemblock json.. would i just have to do " "parent": "minecraft:dirt" " ?

L1239[17:47:16] <tschm_> since... it does not work :(

L1240[17:47:20] <howtonotwin> ?

L1241[17:47:22] <howtonotwin> ??????

L1242[17:47:23] <howtonotwin> no

L1243[17:48:02] <howtonotwin> ModelLoader.setCustomMRL(item, meta, new MRL("moss", "blockstate", "inventory"))

L1244[17:48:29] <howtonotwin> read https://github.com/howtonotwin/MCForgeDocumentation/blob/models/docs/models/using.md#item-models

L1245[17:48:57] <howtonotwin> I have to go now

L1246[17:49:02] <tschm_> itemModelResourceLocation = new ModelResourceLocation( "moss:blocka", "inventory" ); ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation( ModItems.blockAItemBlock, 0, itemModelResourceLocation );

L1247[17:49:08] <howtonotwin> Good luck.

L1248[17:49:16] <tschm_> yeah, i go to bed now :)

L1249[17:49:16] <howtonotwin> and that's good

L1250[17:49:22] <howtonotwin> ^

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L1253[17:55:16] <thechief5456> is there a way to set the bounding box of a block to a dynamic shape?

L1254[17:55:27] <thechief5456> not just a cubeoid

L1255[18:05:35] <diesieben07> thechief5456, you can make it multiple cubeoids, but nothing "rounded"

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L1259[18:11:04] <tterrag> For collision that is true

L1260[18:11:18] <tterrag> For selection you can draw whatever you want in the event

L1261[18:15:08] <diesieben07> yeah

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L1264[18:25:25] <thechief5456> what would I do to implement that?

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L1269[18:31:06] <diesieben07> thechief5456, which one? collision? or hover-outline?

L1270[18:31:18] <thechief5456> collision

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L1272[18:33:56] <diesieben07> Override addCollisionBoxToList and add whichever collision boxes you want to the list passed in.

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L1274[18:36:38] <thechief5456> sweet thank you!

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L1283[19:04:47] <PitchBright> I've been trying to wrap my head around this line

L1284[19:04:48] <PitchBright> OpenGlHelper.glBlendFunc(770, 771, 1, 0);

L1285[19:05:03] <PitchBright> For some reason I can't seem to shake the thought that those 770 & 771 are supposed to be between 0 & 1

L1286[19:05:22] <PitchBright> I know the vars are ints but... I'm not sure where the 770 771 are coming from...

L1287[19:05:47] <PitchBright> if I add up RGB at 255 each that gets me to 765...

L1288[19:05:48] <tterrag> GL_SRC_ALPHA and GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA

L1289[19:05:55] <tterrag> look in GL11 and match them up

L1290[19:06:00] <tterrag> I just happen to know those off the top of my head

L1291[19:06:14] <PitchBright> the fact that they're higher than 765 is what's confusing me

L1292[19:06:58] <PitchBright> I think I'm confused about what the actual numbers are though

L1293[19:07:15] <tterrag> they are GL constants

L1294[19:07:17] <PitchBright> like... not what they are... but how they got to be those exact values

L1295[19:07:20] <tterrag> like I said, look them up in GL11

L1296[19:07:58] <PitchBright> it's GL14 though, isn't it?

L1297[19:08:16] <PitchBright> because of the 0 and the 1 ints at the end

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L1299[19:08:57] <tterrag> no

L1300[19:09:05] <tterrag> OpenGlHelper pics between the two for you

L1301[19:09:11] <tterrag> and even if it was GL14, it uses the same constants

L1302[19:10:18] <PitchBright> oh wow.. okay, i see...

L1303[19:10:33] <PitchBright> those ints are the decimal conversion values to hex

L1304[19:10:44] <PitchBright> 771 = 0x303

L1305[19:11:59] <PitchBright> so the the ints, are actually me designating which blend function to use

L1306[19:12:12] <PitchBright> and not some "total rgb value"

L1307[19:12:38] <PitchBright> thanks tterrag!

L1308[19:12:39] <tterrag> yes

L1309[19:12:46] <tterrag> you can hover over the constant (at least in eclipse) to show the int value

L1310[19:12:48] <PitchBright> you always bail me out :D

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L1325[20:28:25] <tterrag> what's this error I get about 20 times on startup?

L1326[20:28:26] <tterrag> [21:28:18] [Client thread/ERROR] [FML]: MultiModel minecraft:builtin/missing is empty (no base model or parts were provided/resolved)

L1327[20:29:40] <TehNut> I think it's EnderIO

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L1329[20:34:31] <tterrag> ook then

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L1340[21:07:17] <tterrag> how little research can you do? https://github.com/MinecraftForge/Documentation/issues/69

L1341[21:07:41] <tterrag> why even report an issue if you can't be bothered to use the thing you are reporting to?

L1342[21:07:50] <tterrag> not even use, just briefly look at

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L1352[21:47:59] <thechief5456> I bet this is super simple but I cannot get my TE to save to nbt.

L1353[21:48:07] <thechief5456> https://github.com/Austin-Dorff/Mechanica/blob/master/src/main/java/com/austindorff/mechanica/tileentity/energy/producer/coalgenerator/TileEntityCoalGenerator.java

L1354[21:56:40] <KnightMiner> Did you register the tile entity?

L1355[21:57:10] <KnightMiner> I am going to guess no: -> https://github.com/Austin-Dorff/Mechanica/blob/master/src/main/java/com/austindorff/mechanica/tileentity/TileEntityDeclaration.java#L14

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L1357[22:01:57] <thechief5456> nope definitely did not register it, what a dumba** I am

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L1359[22:02:11] <tterrag> it's ok, it's nonobvious that you should have to

L1360[22:02:54] <TehNut> Doesn't the game crash if you don't register it?

L1361[22:03:01] <tterrag> nope, just errors

L1362[22:03:04] <tterrag> in the console

L1363[22:03:05] <KnightMiner> I've done the same before as well, took me so long to figure out why it was not saving until finally it crashed and the report told me I never registered it

L1364[22:03:12] <TehNut> Huh... I vaguely remember crashes

L1365[22:03:13] <tterrag> "XXXX is missing a mapping! This is a bug!"

L1366[22:03:20] <tterrag> I know the error well

L1367[22:03:24] <TehNut> I know about the error

L1368[22:03:29] <tterrag> it may crash depending on what you do

L1369[22:03:31] <TehNut> But I definitely thought there was a crash

L1370[22:03:37] <thechief5456> ohhhhhhh thats what that error means

L1371[22:04:11] <tterrag> yes

L1372[22:04:18] <tterrag> it's a horrible warning for an obscure problem

L1373[22:04:21] <tterrag> someone should probably change it

L1374[22:04:22] <tterrag> *shrug*

L1375[22:05:00] <tterrag> the issue with TEs is that they are loaded from NBT before block context is available

L1376[22:05:41] <thechief5456> If I have a set of tile entity classes but only some of them can actually be placed in the world, most of them are for abstracting default code out of each specific block's TE, do I need to register every one or only the ones that can be placed in the world

L1377[22:06:19] <tterrag> only the concrete ones

L1378[22:06:24] <tterrag> ones that exist in the world, yes

L1379[22:06:31] <thechief5456> sounds good

L1380[22:07:07] <thechief5456> and should I prefix the registry string with my mod id?

L1381[22:07:44] <tterrag> I don't *think* it matters

L1382[22:08:09] <tterrag> wait, yes it does

L1383[22:08:13] <tterrag> yes, use something unique

L1384[22:08:19] <thechief5456> okay

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L1390[22:30:57] <blood_> tterrag: https://gist.github.com/bloodmc/0ff0a203288c249a85678987bd48bea3 any idea?

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L1392[22:32:06] <tterrag> wat

L1393[22:32:14] <tterrag> our API is definitely not before chickenchunks

L1394[22:32:47] <tterrag> blood_: #EnderIO

L1395[22:33:35] <blood_> k thanks

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L1427[23:55:22] <LexManos> https://gist.github.com/LexManos/ca57c1f29365bf492f207e4aa1a7865c So this si a thing.

L1428[23:58:05] <MrIbby> ooh