OCLogs: 2016-08-27.log

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L2[00:04:31] <McJty> Bah, I need to find a way to delay my teleportation code until I'm out of the global entity tick loop

L3[00:04:46] <McJty> Seems moving the code to item.onUpdate() wasn't ok since that appears to be called within that loop as well

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L7[00:14:52] <tterrag> McJty: seems pretty easy, bounce it over to some event handler on WorldTickEvent or some such

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L12[00:32:33] <McJty> Well not convinced WorldTickEvent is safer as I also got a CME there with some entity related stuff (different mod)

L13[00:32:44] <McJty> But I'm going to try to bounce it off to the tile entity that the player is teleporting too

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L15[00:33:29] <McJty> (which may not be chunkloaded so I have to see if I can get that to tick at least once)

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L19[01:17:45] <RANKSHANK> McJty could you addScheduleTask() like you would a packet?

L20[01:18:26] <McJty> The problem is that that makes it run in the main event thread but if you are already in the main event thread (which is the case for me) then it just executes immediatelly

L21[01:18:47] <McJty> So that's really only useful if you are in a network packet

L22[01:19:39] <killjoy1> What's the best way to call something from some thread to run on the client thread?

L23[01:20:01] <killjoy1> my usecase: reading image data and loading it to the texturemanager

L24[01:20:17] <McJty> killjoy1, Minecraft.getMinecraft().addScheduledTask(callableToSchedule) I think

L25[01:20:56] <killjoy1> That beats the way I've been doing it

L26[01:25:56] <RANKSHANK> McJty but the runnables are run at the start of the tick before the entity list is accessed, or am I reading it wrong? so if you do () -> teleportEntity(); it'd be called before the entity update loop is started

L27[01:26:14] <killjoy1> it's good for what I'm using.

L28[01:26:19] <McJty> RANKSHANK, only if you are not in the main event thread already

L29[01:26:26] <McJty> If you are in the main event thread they get called immediatelly

L30[01:26:36] <McJty> Making it identical to just doing a straight call

L31[01:27:08] <RANKSHANK> Ahhh I see it

L32[01:27:30] <RANKSHANK> make a temp thread just for adding the runnable :D

L33[01:28:05] <McJty> That sounds a bit heavy and clumsy

L34[01:28:14] <McJty> Anyway I do it in WorldTick now and I'm having people test that out

L35[01:28:30] <tterrag> McJty: if worldtick fails, server tick would probably work

L36[01:28:34] <tterrag> assuming it's only serverside

L37[01:28:41] <McJty> yes it is

L38[01:30:53] <tterrag> killjoy1: lol, that was exactly my usecase too

L39[01:31:25] <tterrag> https://github.com/creatubbles/ctb-mcmod/blob/1.9/src/main/java/com/creatubbles/ctbmod/common/http/DownloadableImage.java#L110-L150

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L41[01:35:06] <killjoy1> I'm basically making a ImageBufferDownload for resources.

L42[01:35:29] <killjoy1> as a way to convert old resources

L43[01:35:58] <McJty> tterrag, btw, WorldTick seems to be called server side only as well

L44[01:36:09] <tterrag> yep, but at a different point in the tick

L45[01:36:29] <tterrag> killjoy1: that's essentially what mine is :P

L46[01:36:34] <tterrag> but instead of converting, it's just loading on the fly

L47[01:38:16] <killjoy1> Hm.. am I abusing placeholder resource locations?

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L49[01:38:39] <killjoy1> I'm literally static final NULL = new ResourceLocation("NULL")

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L51[01:39:55] <tterrag> considering that really means minecraft:NULL yes :P

L52[01:40:22] <killjoy1> It's impossible for that to be a legit location right now.

L53[01:41:59] <killjoy1> I'm using it in a map to represent a loading texture

L54[01:42:18] <killjoy1> No, I don't have the texture, but it's on the way.

L55[01:42:21] <killjoy1> Don't order more

L56[01:43:56] <tterrag> there's a billion better ways to do that :P

L57[01:44:03] <tterrag> center your system around Futures for one

L58[01:44:16] <killjoy1> I'll have to learn them

L59[01:44:28] <tterrag> guava extends them quite nicely

L60[01:44:39] <tterrag> MoreExecutors.listeningDecorator for one

L61[01:44:49] <killjoy1> I need to learn the concept of futures

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L65[01:47:35] <tterrag> it's just an object that says "this will be done at some point"

L66[01:47:49] <tterrag> so instead of ResourceLocation you would return Future<ResourceLocation>

L67[01:49:12] <tterrag> but with guava you can return a ListenableFuture, which the user could do something like downloadImage(...).addListener(() -> {...}, MoreExecutors.sameThreadExecutor())

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L69[01:49:28] <tterrag> I believe j8 has a similar construct, but you'd have to hard require it of course

L70[01:50:35] <tterrag> ahh yes CompletableFuture

L71[01:50:45] <tterrag> I'm more familiar with guava though

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L74[01:59:57] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20160827 mappings to Forge Maven.

L75[02:00:01] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20160827-1.10.2.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20160827" in build.gradle).

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L77[02:05:43] <killjoy1> tterrag, how would I convert this to a future? https://git.io/v6pso

L78[02:06:28] <tterrag> first off stop spawning a new thread for each download. have an executor for that

L79[02:06:38] <tterrag> you can use guava's listening executor, which will feed you back listenable futures

L80[02:06:42] <tterrag> then just return that

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L85[02:11:49] <killjoy1> Well it's kind of hard to do that because I'm using a vanilla class

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L88[02:17:42] <tterrag> killjoy1: stop doing that then :D

L89[02:17:48] <tterrag> it is not hard to read an image from a remote site

L90[02:17:51] <tterrag> (my code does it)

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L93[02:28:09] <killjoy1> I figured the executors out.

L94[02:28:24] <killjoy1> Unfortunately, I'm embedding callables

L95[02:30:45] <killjoy1> Here's the callable class https://gist.github.com/killjoy1221/99a4350a8d953d0b5cad0d83b9f0d866

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L101[02:36:44] <tterrag> killjoy1: what's the problem with that?

L102[02:36:57] <tterrag> that's perfect, in fact

L103[02:37:02] <killjoy1> It's not really a problem

L104[02:37:10] <tterrag> feed the callable into a ListeningExecutorService and it gives you a ListenableFuture<T>

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L110[02:52:12] <killjoy1> How's this? (impl) https://gist.github.com/killjoy1221/981ac00eb99d8dfc21b349239ab18c27

L111[02:53:09] <tterrag> uhh...unless your internet speeds are astronomical that's never going to work

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L113[02:53:18] <killjoy1> Not using network

L114[02:53:18] <tterrag> a future is meant to be checked in the FUTURE...not immediately after

L115[02:53:24] <tterrag> wait

L116[02:53:27] <tterrag> then what are you downloading?

L117[02:53:38] <killjoy1> I'm updating local resources

L118[02:53:47] <killjoy1> at least in this instance

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L120[02:54:03] <tterrag> uhh

L121[02:54:08] <killjoy1> Specifically, this code is going to be used to force someone's skin using a resource pack

L122[02:54:41] <tterrag> so why did you have ThreadDownlaodImageData then?

L123[02:54:47] <killjoy1> And I want to run it through the ImageBufferDownload

L124[02:54:54] <killjoy1> That's different

L125[02:55:04] <killjoy1> I figured it would be easier to do this first

L126[02:55:27] <tterrag> ok well...I don't even see the need for async if it's a local resource

L127[02:55:37] <killjoy1> If it was from the network, I'd give the ImageLoader a url instead of a resourcelocation

L128[02:55:47] <killjoy1> Reading the image still takes a bit

L129[02:55:47] <tterrag> either way

L130[02:55:51] <killjoy1> ImageIO is slow

L131[02:55:53] <tterrag> that's not how you use a future :P

L132[02:56:26] <tterrag> conv.isDone() will probably never be true immediately after you submit the task

L133[02:57:59] <killjoy1> Well I'm using a singlethreadexecutor

L134[03:01:19] <tterrag> ?

L135[03:01:21] <tterrag> and?

L136[03:02:14] <killjoy1> How would you do it?

L137[03:04:25] <tterrag> getPlayerTexture would return a Future<ResourceLocation>

L138[03:04:30] <tterrag> or rather, ListenableFuture

L139[03:05:44] <killjoy1> and then?

L140[03:06:01] <tterrag> well you said before you were using NULL to represent "not done yet"

L141[03:06:26] <tterrag> the same principle applies here. except the future object itself will change to say that it's done

L142[03:06:36] <tterrag> and better yet, the caller can add a listener to execute once the future completes

L143[03:09:53] <killjoy1> So what? I just move the get() to the caller?

L144[03:10:35] <killjoy1> Also, this method is being called every render.

L145[03:11:06] <tterrag> hm I see what you are doing then

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L148[03:15:19] <tterrag> killjoy1: something along these lines is a bit cleaner imo https://gist.github.com/tterrag1098/7de204a273cb7d59e0612616d4910260

L149[03:15:24] <tterrag> avoids constantly polling the future

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L151[03:16:56] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> night :P

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L158[03:40:23] <killjoy1> Is linux 25? http://imgur.com/L1vyr2T

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L162[03:51:16] <kashike> killjoy1: https://twitter.com/bbotezatu/status/768756952528723969

L163[03:51:49] <killjoy1> Got a CMAKE lying around?

L164[03:51:55] <kashike> https://twitter.com/Linux/status/768862388179173376

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L166[03:53:14] <killjoy1> "probably"

L167[03:53:17] <killjoy1> that's a big if

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L193[05:27:18] <PitchBright> Any Minecraftforge.net forum admins around?

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L195[05:28:08] <RANKSHANK> If it's urgent you can ping them otherwise say what you need to :P

L196[05:29:10] <PitchBright> not an emergency, but i don't know who on here is a forum admin... that said... I think I can't recover my password because the email address for the account, was based on my previous ISP :(

L197[05:30:03] <PitchBright> the thing asks me to enter my password twice...

L198[05:30:06] <PitchBright> "Password security has recently been upgraded. Please enter your password again."

L199[05:30:42] <PitchBright> so when I enter it a 2nd time, it fails. I figured a password reset was in order, so I thought I'd go that route.

L200[05:31:39] <RANKSHANK> Yeah there was a site wide reset a few months back due to a breach, dunno how much luck you'll have without access to your email though

L201[05:32:50] <PitchBright> awe man... my account is pretty old... I'd hate to lose it

L202[05:33:10] <PitchBright> "I can prove I'm me!!"

L203[05:35:05] <RANKSHANK> maybe try bringing in flame goat since he's the website guru. if you have a twitter that'd be a pretty good way to reach him

L204[05:37:39] <RANKSHANK> or maybe here even, dunno how partial he is to IRC pings

L205[05:40:46] <PitchBright> I'm a little nervous about pinging anybody in here, who has a red icon beside their name xD

L206[05:41:15] <PitchBright> Flamegoat: are you around?

L207[05:44:21] <PitchBright> I'll try again later. Thanks RANKSHANK :)

L208[05:44:42] <RANKSHANK> np, just try to float around to see if you can catch anything :P

L209[05:44:53] <RANKSHANK> something something IRL and time zones

L210[05:45:04] <PitchBright> sounds good

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L230[07:34:42] <RANKSHANK> wtf

L231[07:35:03] <RANKSHANK> why is there a @SideOnly getter for worldObj in FallingBlock?

L232[07:35:31] <sham1> Because vanilla

L233[07:36:45] <RANKSHANK> I guess that's the only possible explanation :P

L234[07:36:54] <RANKSHANK> not a good one, but the only one :D

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L238[08:01:00] <Lylac> hello

L239[08:02:08] <TechnicianLP> o/

L240[08:03:38] <Lylac> where can i go to learn more about the Vec3 class in the minecraft util package?

L241[08:04:30] <Ordinastie_> learn more ?

L242[08:04:39] <Ordinastie_> just read the code for the class

L243[08:05:09] <gigaherz> it's mostly self-explaining, if you know what a vector is and how they work in maths

L244[08:05:28] <Lylac> then i will search for that

L245[08:05:48] <gigaherz> hopefully you use Eclipse or IDEA

L246[08:05:54] <gigaherz> with setupDecompWorkspace?

L247[08:05:55] <gigaherz> if so

L248[08:06:02] <gigaherz> both IDEs have a "go to type name" function

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L250[08:06:12] <gigaherz> which can show you the decompiled source for that class

L251[08:06:14] <gigaherz> or any other

L252[08:06:22] <Lylac> i use idea, yeah I am familiar with that function

L253[08:06:33] <gigaherz> in IDEA, I double-shift all the time

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L265[08:54:57] <LatvianModder> Double-shift ftw

L266[08:55:20] <LatvianModder> solves 99% of "where do I find this class/file"

L267[08:58:30] <IoP> ctrl+n should be faster for that for classes

L268[09:08:15] <sham1> Meh, short corded headphones are the worst

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L271[09:14:15] <sham1> http://i.imgur.com/VC0t9Lk.png

L272[09:14:24] <sham1> Something does not match...

L273[09:14:52] <Lylac> oh vanilla code

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L277[09:22:54] <hch12907> what IDE did you guys use? I am kinda tired of using eclipse..

L278[09:23:10] <sham1> IDEA

L279[09:23:28] <sham1> Or Emacs using Eclipse as a backend ;P

L280[09:24:07] <sham1> Depends on where I am working

L281[09:27:00] <sham1> So yeah

L282[09:27:05] <sham1> I'd say, use IDEA

L283[09:29:34] <Ordinastie_> damn generics :x

L284[09:29:54] <Ordinastie_> I have : public interface ICallback extends Comparable<ICallback> and public class CallbackRegistry<T extends ICallback, U>

L285[09:30:23] <Ordinastie_> oh nvm

L286[09:30:24] <Ordinastie_> I'm dumb

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L288[09:31:02] <Ordinastie_> also, wtf ?

L289[09:31:16] <Ordinastie_> you told me uBlock is awesome so much better than ABP

L290[09:31:25] <Ordinastie_> but I just had a fucking advert on youtube -_-

L291[09:34:33] <TehNut> I have never had an ad on Youtube since using uBlock

L292[09:34:33] <hch12907> why is uBlock awesomer than ABP?

L293[09:34:37] <TehNut> I got them all the time on ABP

L294[09:34:43] <TehNut> uBlock didn't sell out

L295[09:35:14] <gigaherz> uBlock blocks better

L296[09:35:23] <gigaherz> the "acceptable ads" stuff aside

L297[09:35:42] <gigaherz> uBlock works on a certain porn site, while adblock didn't

L298[09:37:10] <sham1> :P

L299[09:37:12] <sham1> Priorities

L300[09:37:30] <sham1> And I don't mind youtube ads as long as they are skipabke

L301[09:38:03] <gigaherz> I have never seen an ad on youtube, even after switching to uBlock

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L303[09:40:16] <sham1> I hope uBlock has a thing for "show ads for certain sites"

L304[09:40:25] <TehNut> It does

L305[09:40:29] <gigaherz> ofc

L306[09:40:37] <sham1> What about certain youtubers

L307[09:40:44] <gigaherz> no, only sites ;P

L308[09:40:53] <sham1> Bah

L309[09:41:18] <gigaherz> one of the points of uBlock is that it's more lightweight

L310[09:42:08] <gigaherz> A Youtube channel

L311[09:42:08] <gigaherz> There is a user script on Greasy Fork: YouTube - whitelist channels in uBlock Origin. I can't vouch for the script, you will have to find out yourself whether it works.

L312[09:42:37] <gigaherz> https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/22308-youtube-whitelist-channels-in-ublock-origin

L313[09:42:54] <gigaherz> it's a greasemonkey script that selectively disables uBlock for specific youtube channels

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L317[09:49:11] <Ordinastie_> I have issues designing my system, I'm not sure how to handle it properly :/

L318[09:49:44] <gigaherz> which system?

L319[09:50:14] <Ordinastie_> I have a CallbackRegistry with public void registerCallback(ICallback callback, ICallbackPredicate predicate) and public CallbackResult processCallbacks(Object... params)

L320[09:51:38] <Ordinastie_> (fuck I can't find my words :x)

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L322[09:52:23] <Ordinastie_> the idea is you're supposed to extend it and give users a narrower addCallback/processCallback so it doesn't use object vararg

L323[09:52:24] <sham1> so many parametres

L324[09:52:28] <sham1> wait no

L325[09:52:57] <Ordinastie_> so you'd have that : http://puu.sh/qQifw.png

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L327[09:54:59] <Ordinastie_> god I'm not even sure what to ask :x

L328[09:55:05] <Ordinastie_> or how to ask it :s

L329[09:58:06] <Ordinastie_> I'll just code random stuff until I have something that looks semi decent I think :x

L330[10:02:48] <Ordinastie_> humpf, see what I mean ?

L331[10:02:49] <Ordinastie_> public void registerCallback(C callback)

L332[10:02:49] <Ordinastie_> {

L333[10:02:49] <Ordinastie_> registerCallback(callback, (P) (ICallbackPredicate) params -> true);

L334[10:02:49] <Ordinastie_> }

L335[10:03:22] <Ordinastie_> it's the first time I ever needed to chain cast like this

L336[10:03:29] <Ordinastie_> doesn't really feel right :x

L337[10:06:06] <Ivorius> Eh, seen worse

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L341[10:18:45] <Ordinastie_> here is what I have : http://puu.sh/qQjuv.png

L342[10:20:20] <Ordinastie_> that'd be nice if there was a way to hide the parent public methods :s

L343[10:20:43] <sham1> protected

L344[10:21:10] <Ordinastie_> yeah, but they still need to be public for when I don't extend the class and instanciate it directly

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L346[10:21:23] <howtonotwin> remember that subclasses can override protected with public

L347[10:21:34] <Ordinastie_> howtonotwin, but i'd want the other way around

L348[10:21:36] <sham1> What a specific edge case

L349[10:21:37] <Ordinastie_> I know it's not possible

L350[10:22:07] <Ordinastie_> it would break the basic principle of OOP but still :p

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L352[10:22:28] <Naiten> is there an ability to flip V coordinate in ForgeModel JSON?

L353[10:22:37] <sham1> flip(V)

L354[10:22:42] <sham1> ;P

L355[10:22:54] <Ordinastie_> basically, what I mean is that : http://puu.sh/qQjIj.png

L356[10:22:57] <Naiten> sham1, http://i.imgur.com/AutbNOM.png

L357[10:23:09] <Ordinastie_> to see only the ModEventRegistry one

L358[10:23:45] <Naiten> sham1, block is IBM and flip_v is enabled when loading model, item is .json

L359[10:23:59] <sham1> why

L360[10:24:20] <Naiten> what

L361[10:24:22] <Ordinastie_> and that's where I hesitate about the design

L362[10:24:40] <Ordinastie_> I could make CallbackRegistry abstract and make them protected

L363[10:24:50] <Ordinastie_> force users to make their own impl eveytime

L364[10:25:01] <Ordinastie_> not sure I want that

L365[10:28:03] <Naiten> sham1, oh, never mind, found how that's done. Sorry for inconvenience :c

L366[10:28:11] <sham1> :P

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L369[10:46:05] <Naiten> sham1, http://i.imgur.com/L3ndIZp.png

L370[10:46:21] <sham1> nice

L371[10:46:22] <Naiten> diesel fuel, yay \o/

L372[10:46:59] <Naiten> should learn conventions on adding fluids now :C

L373[10:51:00] <Naiten> sham1, are there 'dictionaries' for inter-mod support of fluids and ores, right?

L374[10:51:11] <sham1> not for fluids

L375[10:51:25] <sham1> Just check if a certain fluidid exists in FluidRegistry

L376[10:51:34] <sham1> In your case it could be "disel"

L377[10:51:41] <sham1> If so, use that

L378[10:51:44] <sham1> If not, don'y

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L381[10:53:54] <Naiten> sham1, is there anywhere i can read about adding fluids in 1.10? or what's the latest version with same mechanics?

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L383[10:54:26] <Naiten> i mean, is it similar to 1.9 or 1.8 or even 1.7?

L384[10:54:30] <sham1> Yesd

L385[10:54:38] <sham1> I can write up something after I get back from sauna

L386[10:54:51] * Naiten did nothing related to liquids

L387[10:55:01] <Naiten> *ever

L388[10:55:02] <sham1> Fluids*

L389[10:55:07] <sham1> They can also be gasses

L390[10:55:23] <Naiten> erm, language barriers

L391[10:55:27] <PaleoCrafter> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.10.x/src/test/java/net/minecraftforge/debug/ModelFluidDebug.java could use this as a reference

L392[10:55:37] <TehNut> !dc

L393[10:55:43] <TehNut> er

L394[10:55:45] <TehNut> !dcc

L395[10:55:49] <TehNut> Right?

L396[10:55:52] <sham1> I think I could actually make a fluid page to the docs

L397[10:56:01] <Naiten> PaleoCrafter, \o/

L398[10:58:54] <Naiten> oh, there's even some kind of pseudo-physics for liquids

L399[10:59:15] <Naiten> class TestGas extends Fluid ... density = -1000;

L400[10:59:27] <Naiten> negative density, yay

L401[11:00:07] * Naiten being like 'wat?'

L402[11:00:13] <howtonotwin> gasses

L403[11:00:23] <howtonotwin> negative density makes fluids flow upwards

L404[11:00:25] <sham1> negative density

L405[11:00:27] <sham1> It raises

L406[11:01:07] <Naiten> if speaking of actual real-life density, it can't be negative

L407[11:01:16] <howtonotwin> <grammarnazi>"Raises" is a transitive verb. It must operate on an object. The word you wanted was "rises."</grammarnazi>

L408[11:01:55] <Naiten> gases rise because their density is lesser than air density

L409[11:02:05] <howtonotwin> In magical MCland 0 is the density of air or something :P

L410[11:02:32] <Naiten> ?\_(?)_/?

L411[11:03:07] <howtonotwin> Same thing how Celsius has 0 at freezing point but you can still go lower

L412[11:03:20] <howtonotwin> But temperature is the average kinetic energy per particle

L413[11:03:31] <howtonotwin> so it doesn't actually make sense to have negative temperature

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L415[11:04:05] <howtonotwin> But we do it anyway by offsetting the scale by a couple hundred degrees

L416[11:04:15] <Naiten> ^ that's why _thermodynamic_ temperature which is 'average kinetic energy per particle' as you say, is meausred in kelvins

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L418[11:04:56] <Naiten> and scale goes from 0 and upper

L419[11:06:03] <Naiten> but whatever

L420[11:06:06] <howtonotwin> That's what "offsetting the scale by a couple hundred degrees" means.

L421[11:06:45] <Naiten> howtonotwin, it's not kelvin scale is offset, it's centigrade scale is offset

L422[11:06:49] <howtonotwin> Because the Celsius scale is the Kelvin scale except +-273.15

L423[11:06:50] <Naiten> :P

L424[11:06:58] <howtonotwin> s/+-/-

L425[11:07:00] <howtonotwin> xD

L426[11:07:03] <Naiten> howtonotwin, i know -_-

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L428[11:07:21] <Naiten> but whatever

L429[11:07:37] * Naiten does powerlifting now http://i.imgur.com/y0Sv2fB.png

L430[11:07:54] <howtonotwin> I was referring to the C scale when I said "offsetting", not the K scale. :P And now we stop.

L431[11:08:41] <howtonotwin> But can you carry a 36*64*(9^9) m^3 of cobblestone?

L432[11:08:56] <howtonotwin> s/9^9/9^8/

L433[11:09:57] <Naiten> in the magic blackhole called 'inventory', yea

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L435[11:15:07] <howtonotwin> wolfram alpha just interpreted "density of stone" as "Population density of Stone, Staffordshire, UK" -.-

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L437[11:19:51] <TehNut> well isn't that what you wanted?

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L439[11:20:39] <howtonotwin> Apparently an inventory full of 8*compressed cobble is 4.4e-11 of the earth's mass. We're gonna need some bags of holding :P

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L443[11:26:57] <Naiten> howtonotwin, y u no e-3 e-6 e-9 e-12 scientific format

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L447[11:30:29] <Ivorius> https://youtu.be/06m2lb5D2Jk :>

L448[11:30:55] <Ivorius> Think I'm gonna make a tool out of it too

L449[11:31:08] <TehNut> neat

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L451[11:34:33] <sham1> Ivorius, that... is really cool

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L453[11:37:46] <Koward> I wonder where is defined for example how many ticks it takes for 1.0F Breakspeed to break a block.

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L457[11:44:11] <gigaherz> Koward: in mojang's source, it may have been a constant somewhere

L458[11:44:17] <gigaherz> but in the code we have, it's probably all over th ep lace

L459[11:44:27] <howtonotwin> I believe every tick you spend breaking a block, you add the speed (with enchantment and other effects) to the current breaking damage, and when breaking dmg >= block hardness*30 the block breaks.

L460[11:46:04] <howtonotwin> If the block breaks on the first tick, it is insta-mined and the next block starts being mined next tick. If it is not, there is a 1/4 sec delay before you mine the next block.

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L462[11:46:14] <howtonotwin> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Breaking#Speed

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L472[12:04:46] <Curle> o/

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L474[12:07:13] <Pearle> and one RIP for me

L475[12:07:26] <Pearle> as soon as i joined, my internet went off :L

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L477[12:08:39] <Pearle> there we go

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L482[12:17:01] <williewillus> !gm func_71407_l

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L486[12:28:16] <sibomots> in 1.10.x, choosing new block ID's for new ores. I stumbled upon the post by Grum http://bit.ly/2boW1qY. As of 1.10 no more limits. To be clear - the real limit is just MAX_INT? (2^32 -1 ) ?

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L488[12:28:50] <McJty> You don't choose block ID's in 1.10.2

L489[12:28:51] <PaleoCrafter> the limit technically still is 4096

L490[12:28:54] <PaleoCrafter> but --^

L491[12:29:25] <McJty> Even in 1.7.10 you didn't have to chose block ID's anymore

L492[12:29:26] <diesieben07> basically there can be 4096 blocks at once, IDs are dynamically assigned

L493[12:29:33] <gigaherz> sibomots: mc still has 12 bits for the internal block ID, you just don't get to choose

L494[12:29:38] <williewillus> you do GameRegistry.register(<yourblock>) and fml does literally everything else

L495[12:30:19] <gigaherz> similarly, there's still a 4bit metadata, but unlike the id, you DO have to manage that ;P

L496[12:30:33] <williewillus> well only in one spot

L497[12:30:40] <williewillus> the rest of the time you pretend itdoesnt exist ;p

L498[12:30:46] <gigaherz> well two functions... 3 tops ;P

L499[12:30:52] <gigaherz> but you have to keep it in mind

L500[12:30:53] <gigaherz> like

L501[12:30:59] <gigaherz> "only these two properties are saved"

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L506[12:39:01] <sibomots> i'm reading sample code that is misleading. nevermind, i'll just read more source. thx.

L507[12:39:42] <Pearle> i'm reading the source of the TARDIS mod by DarkholmeTenk, most of this code shouldn't work, but it does. Efficiently.

L508[12:39:44] <Pearle> kthxbai.

L509[12:43:38] <PaleoCrafter> interesting versioning system on that mod

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L514[12:59:28] <Pearle> yeah.

L515[12:59:35] <Pearle> Interesting code base on that mod.

L516[12:59:38] <Pearle> Check the github.

L517[12:59:40] <Pearle> Main file.

L518[12:59:46] <Ivorius> Is there a reverse JsonToNBT?

L519[12:59:50] <Pearle> You'll immediately hate darkholm

L520[13:00:07] <Ivorius> Turning NBT to Json

L521[13:00:20] <PaleoCrafter> Ivorius, I think the toString methods are implemented to generate JSON

L522[13:00:58] <Ivorius> Looks good

L523[13:00:59] <Ivorius> Thanks

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L525[13:02:00] <PaleoCrafter> Pearle, are you referring to the formatting or the fact that they just dumped all references in there?

L526[13:02:13] <Pearle> Everything.

L527[13:02:19] <Pearle> The spacing gets me the most.

L528[13:02:23] <gigaherz> Ivorius: JsonToNBT#getTagFromJson

L529[13:02:23] <Pearle> Like, the fuck?

L530[13:02:24] <Pearle> :L

L531[13:02:33] <gigaherz> oh weait nevermind

L532[13:02:34] <gigaherz> I misread

L533[13:02:44] <gigaherz> yeah as PaleoCrafter said, you just .toString the NBT

L534[13:02:49] <gigaherz> it's not QUITE json, but close enough

L535[13:02:54] <Ivorius> I was about to say, you just reversed the verb :D

L536[13:03:04] <gigaherz> no

L537[13:03:06] <Ivorius> Not quite json? wut?

L538[13:03:07] <gigaherz> the class name is misleading

L539[13:03:22] <gigaherz> it does stuff like

L540[13:03:25] <gigaherz> tag:1b

L541[13:03:27] <gigaherz> for "byte"

L542[13:03:34] <gigaherz> it's meant for debugging

L543[13:03:37] <gigaherz> not serializing ;P

L544[13:03:44] <Ivorius> Hmm

L545[13:03:50] <gigaherz> the only reason JsonToNBT exists, is decoding chat commands

L546[13:03:57] <Ivorius> But it's still compatible?

L547[13:04:03] <gigaherz> with a JSON parser? no

L548[13:04:08] <Ivorius> JsonToNBT(nbt.toString) will give out the same, I mean

L549[13:04:53] <gigaherz> I can't say I have tried

L550[13:04:55] <Ivorius> Can I use it to reliably let players edit NBT is what I want to say

L551[13:05:05] <gigaherz> probably not

L552[13:05:16] <Ivorius> Welp, it's too late to turn back

L553[13:05:20] <Ivorius> I already invested like 6 minutes

L554[13:05:26] <gigaherz> lol

L555[13:05:36] <gigaherz> why do players need to edit json?

L556[13:05:41] <Ivorius> Not players

L557[13:05:42] <Ivorius> Creators

L558[13:05:48] <gigaherz> can't they use NBT Explorer?

L559[13:05:53] <Ivorius> Is that ingame?

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L561[13:06:04] <gigaherz> no but there's an ingame one

L562[13:06:15] <Ivorius> *shrug*

L563[13:06:16] <Curle> NBTEditor?

L564[13:06:20] <gigaherz> https://github.com/DavidGoldman/NBTEdit

L565[13:06:23] <gigaherz> 1.7.10 though

L566[13:06:25] <gigaherz> maybe someone ported it

L567[13:06:30] <Curle> Someone should make a dev version of that

L568[13:06:33] <Curle> for debugging

L569[13:06:59] <gigaherz> yep

L570[13:06:59] <gigaherz> https://github.com/kanomiya/NBTEdit

L571[13:07:04] <gigaherz> there's at least on 1.10.2 port

L572[13:07:06] <Ivorius> Yah looks pretty good

L573[13:07:19] <Ivorius> But I can still use a basic version of this stuff in my toolkit

L574[13:07:26] <Ivorius> Since it doesn't take long to implement

L575[13:07:42] <gigaherz> at least one*

L576[13:08:15] <gigaherz> https://github.com/MoeBoy76/NBTEdit/commits/master

L577[13:08:16] <gigaherz> two

L578[13:08:16] <gigaherz> ;P

L579[13:08:24] <gigaherz> well this one is 1.10, but I guess it works on 1.10.2 ;P

L580[13:08:24] <Ivorius> Tho, screw it, if this exists the json part isn't work it

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L587[13:43:18] <TechnicianLP> is there a way to fix the mipmap limit? (i have 36px images)

L588[13:45:21] <McJty> 36? You should always use a power of two

L589[13:45:34] <McJty> Non power of two images are going to give lots of trouble in other areas too (not only mipmapping)

L590[13:47:23] <TechnicianLP> thats why im asking if theres a way to fix those issues ... (or ill have to redo those images (again -.-))

L591[13:47:44] <PaleoCrafter> the to fix the issues is making power of two textures :P

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L593[13:48:16] <McJty> yes really

L594[13:48:42] <TechnicianLP> ok

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L596[13:57:51] <Ordinastie_> TechnicianLP, actually, think if you're using 36px img, it might just disable mipmapping entirely

L597[13:59:23] <TechnicianLP> 4 -> 2

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L607[14:38:12] <Ordinastie_> question, if I subscribe to both FMLStateEvent and FMLPreInit, which one is called first ?

L608[14:38:23] <Ordinastie_> or is it undetermined ?

L609[14:38:38] <PaleoCrafter> try it? :P

L610[14:39:20] <Ordinastie_> can't compile yet ><

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L613[14:41:46] <PaleoCrafter> I don't think you're capable at all of subscribing to FMLStateEvent

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L616[14:42:11] <Ordinastie_> really ?

L617[14:42:14] <Ordinastie_> why not ?

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L621[14:42:46] <PaleoCrafter> looks to me like @EventHandler methods are added to a direct class->method map

L622[14:43:02] <PaleoCrafter> and FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent only checks the event's direct class

L623[14:45:28] <PaleoCrafter> if you can somehow register directly to the event bus (i.e. with a coremod dummy container), you can capture supertypes

L624[14:47:03] <Ordinastie_> well, I wish I could just get the event bus directly

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L627[14:49:35] <PaleoCrafter> *maybe* you can access it through FMLConstructionEvent? (the FMLStateEvent handler only is fired subsequently, obviously)

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L634[15:14:14] <Ordinastie_> I love how I made a calback system to allow method calls for FMLState events so that I don't necessarily have to reference them from the main mod class

L635[15:14:30] <Ordinastie_> only to realise I don't have any place else to register that callback that the main mod class :(

L636[15:15:08] <PaleoCrafter> lol

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L638[15:17:15] <Ordinastie_> I want my MalisisRegistry to only have registerStuff() methods, that you call when you want to register something, so my registerBlockComponent() method that automatically loops through blocks to find the components need to move

L639[15:17:25] <Ordinastie_> or at least, not be visible from outside

L640[15:18:02] <Ordinastie_> I would do modEventRegistry.addCallback(MalisisRegistry::registerBlockComponents)

L641[15:18:08] <Ordinastie_> but I have nowhere to call that from :(

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L645[15:24:30] <Ordinastie_> I just thought about static {}

L646[15:24:32] <Ordinastie_> that'll do

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L650[15:30:14] <Javaschreiber> Can somemone tell me where I can find the FMLDeactivationEvent? It is in the @Mod-Annotation file but seems not to be implemented.

L651[15:30:26] <Javaschreiber> * It is mentioned

L652[15:31:03] <diesieben07> it's not implemented.

L653[15:34:31] <Ordinastie_> and another bonus point for lambdas : you don't have to make full javadoc for them :p

L654[15:35:21] <sham1> :P

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L656[15:36:04] <sham1> Let the types guide you

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L658[15:37:53] <xJon> Hello guys, is it possible to have a client-side only mod sending a message into chat?

L659[15:38:29] <PaleoCrafter> sure

L660[15:38:36] <xJon> Well I can't manage to do it

L661[15:38:51] <xJon> my message is sent through the onPlayerLogin() event

L662[15:39:00] <xJon> and the whole function is being called through the client proxy

L663[15:39:20] <Ordinastie_> player.sendChatMessage

L664[15:39:30] <PaleoCrafter> do you literally mean sending a message? i.e. acting on the player's behalf and send it to all players

L665[15:39:31] <Ordinastie_> or player.addChatMessage if you want only the current player to see it

L666[15:39:57] <xJon> I'm working with 1.7.10, there's no sendChatMessage?

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L668[15:40:10] <PaleoCrafter> update, god dammit

L669[15:40:10] <Ordinastie_> ah, neverming, 1.7.10 is dead

L670[15:40:28] <xJon> Well it's a mod for my modpack

L671[15:40:38] <sham1> Someone pick up that phone

L672[15:40:42] <sham1> Because I called it

L673[15:41:00] <PaleoCrafter> sham1, pls

L674[15:42:28] <xJon> I can't manage to get it working.

L675[15:42:47] <xJon> I have the onPlayerLogin() being called through the client proxy

L676[15:43:10] <xJon> so I see the chat message on single player, but not on other Forger servers (that don't have the mod installed)

L677[15:43:19] <xJon> Forge*

L678[15:44:17] <sham1> Wait, is this like a cross-server chat or what

L679[15:44:33] <xJon> What's that? Forge server with no mods/plugins

L680[15:44:46] <xJon> And I want only the player to see the message in chat, not everybody

L681[15:45:02] <sham1> merf

L682[15:45:08] <xJon> But I want him to see it when he logins to either single player worlds, or servers

L683[15:45:56] <xJon> I want it to work for every login basically, and to show only client-side

L684[15:46:57] <xJon> Is that possible?

L685[15:47:41] <sham1> What sorts of messages

L686[15:48:01] <sham1> what purpose

L687[15:48:05] <xJon> Chat messages, normal, for informing

L688[15:48:07] <Ordinastie_> hum, what can't I cast a Consumer<T> into IFMLEventCallback<T> ? http://puu.sh/qQBEy.png

L689[15:48:43] <sham1> Well it's not exactly a consumer now is it

L690[15:48:56] <Ordinastie_> because that would only work at the lambda level duh -_-

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L692[15:49:25] <Ordinastie_> I swear my brain has fried a little with this heat :/

L693[15:50:13] <sham1> Meh, I read that to mean "why cannot this be turned into a consumer"

L694[15:52:00] <xJon> sham1: Any idea?

L695[15:52:20] <xJon> https://github.com/xJon/Jons-Exclusives/blob/master/src/main/java/xjon/jexclusives/proxy/ClientProxy.java#L41

L696[15:52:23] <xJon> https://github.com/xJon/Jons-Exclusives/blob/master/src/main/java/xjon/jexclusives/event/ClientPlayerEvents.java#L38

L697[15:52:33] <sham1> I know nothing about 1.7.10

L698[15:52:33] <xJon> (Link to code)

L699[15:52:46] <xJon> So you don't know if it's possible or not?

L700[15:52:48] <sham1> And even if I did, I would not support it

L701[15:52:56] <xJon> Out of disrespect?

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L703[15:53:11] <sham1> I would not support it because it is deprecated

L704[15:53:16] <sham1> Nothing to do with respect

L705[15:53:22] <sham1> Just pragmatism

L706[15:53:32] <xJon> But I just need to know if it's possible or not

L707[15:53:42] <PaleoCrafter> and the answer is yes :P

L708[15:53:58] <xJon> Really? could you help me with that PaleoCrafter?

L709[15:54:40] <PaleoCrafter> nope, not touching anything but the current version with a 10 foot pole :P

L710[15:55:01] <xJon> I can get you an 11 foot

L711[15:55:12] <xJon> D; anybody that can help me with that chat issue?

L712[15:55:54] <sham1> You really have a dilema

L713[15:56:07] <PaleoCrafter> iirc, addChatMessage was introduced in 1.7

L714[15:56:20] <xJon> I am using addChatMessage()

L715[15:56:32] <PaleoCrafter> but?

L716[15:56:49] <xJon> But the whole onPlayerLogin() function is not being called when I'm logging into a server without my mod installed

L717[15:57:02] <xJon> (function-event)

L718[15:57:44] <diesieben07> of course. PlayerLoggedInEvent is server-side

L719[15:58:02] <diesieben07> why is it ina class called "ClientPlayerEvents"? That makes no sense

L720[15:58:05] <xJon> I was afraid this is the case. So is there any other way around that?

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L722[15:58:29] <xJon> diesieben07 Well I didn't know that, and I'm calling these events from my client proxy

L723[15:58:31] <diesieben07> update to 1.10.2, then ask again and I will happily give you advice.

L724[15:58:44] <xJon> Again, this mod is for my 1.7.10 modpack

L725[15:58:48] <diesieben07> i don't care.

L726[15:59:00] <diesieben07> why are you making a modpack in that ancient of a version?

L727[15:59:03] <xJon> I'm just explaining

L728[15:59:11] <xJon> Because modders don't update their good mods

L729[15:59:13] <xJon> http://the-1710-pack.com/

L730[15:59:19] <sham1> But you should

L731[15:59:21] <diesieben07> you are not helping the case.

L732[15:59:23] <sham1> Make a trend

L733[15:59:43] <diesieben07> Make modding great again!

L734[15:59:46] <xJon> I will have a 1.7.10 version AND a 1.10.2 version

L735[15:59:51] <xJon> but first I want the mod to help my modpack

L736[15:59:52] <diesieben07> ... I'll show myself out.

L737[15:59:56] <xJon> xD

L738[16:00:08] <xJon> Is there a way around PlayerLoggedInEvent being called client-side?

L739[16:00:10] <sham1> Das Trump

L740[16:00:11] <Ordinastie_> ok, how bad is it to have compareTo() always return 0?

L741[16:00:19] <diesieben07> bad bad.

L742[16:00:23] <diesieben07> there will not be support for 1.7.10 in this chat room

L743[16:00:37] <diesieben07> it is equivalent to equals always returning true

L744[16:00:40] <sham1> compareTo always returning zero breaks the contract

L745[16:00:42] <xJon> welp

L746[16:01:08] <Ordinastie_> I have a list for my callbacks, that needs to be ordered by their priority

L747[16:01:23] <Ordinastie_> except the list doesn't just hold the callbacks

L748[16:01:29] <diesieben07> Comparator.comparingInt(Callback::getPriority)

L749[16:01:34] <Ordinastie_> it holds a Pair<Callback, Predicate>

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L751[16:02:15] <Ordinastie_> yeah, you're right, providing the comparator is probably better that let the default compareTo from Pair ><

L752[16:02:16] <diesieben07> Ordering.natural().onResultOf(Callback::getPriority).onResultOf(Pair::getLeft)

L753[16:02:48] <sham1> I...it's beautiful

L754[16:02:57] <Ordinastie_> diesieben07, in that order ?

L755[16:03:00] <diesieben07> yes.

L756[16:03:26] <sham1> The order looks off

L757[16:03:28] <howtonotwin> Natural ordering on the result of Callback::getPriority on the result of Pair get left

L758[16:03:30] <howtonotwin> makes sense

L759[16:03:33] <diesieben07> ^

L760[16:03:42] <sham1> merf

L761[16:03:45] <sham1> Compose

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L763[16:04:11] <Ordinastie_> well, that made my Eclipse freeze ôO

L764[16:04:28] <diesieben07> your fault for using that "IDE" :P

L765[16:04:40] <sham1> Something like this if '.' is a composition operator

L766[16:05:21] <sham1> Wait

L767[16:05:36] <sham1> How does one compose java Function<?, ?>

L768[16:05:48] <howtonotwin> compose or andthen

L769[16:06:05] <howtonotwin> iirc

L770[16:06:23] <Ordinastie_> diesieben07, except that doesn't work :p

L771[16:06:33] <Ordinastie_> The type Pair does not define getLeft(Object) that is applicable here

L772[16:06:57] <sham1> (Pair::getLeft).andThen((Callback::getPriority))

L773[16:07:07] <howtonotwin> parens?

L774[16:07:26] <sham1> Because I don't know if method references return Function<T, R>

L775[16:07:26] <howtonotwin> And you can't be saying that Pair doesn't define a method to get values

L776[16:07:37] <howtonotwin> method refs don't return anything

L777[16:07:52] <sham1> But they are an expression aren't they

L778[16:07:54] <howtonotwin> yes

L779[16:08:02] <howtonotwin> they don't have a type like most types

L780[16:08:04] <Ordinastie_> Callback already implements so I don't need to compose

L781[16:08:13] <sham1> What witchcraft is this

L782[16:08:17] <howtonotwin> They act like a general input -> output

L783[16:08:33] <sham1> An expression without a value

L784[16:08:40] <howtonotwin> and the compiler has to figure out which interface/class you are implementing and splices in some magic to make that happen

L785[16:08:43] <sham1> My brain is frying

L786[16:09:49] <sham1> It would have been so good if method references could have been used to stand for Function<T,R> like that

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L788[16:10:07] <diesieben07> can they not?

L789[16:10:12] <howtonotwin> So the type of Callback::getPriority is just Callback -> int, no class, and the compiler magicks around and makes that into a Function<Callback, Integer> with type inference or something.

L790[16:10:48] <sham1> Time for me to do some testing

L791[16:11:15] <howtonotwin> We have two interfaces that represent a function A -> B in the Forge env

L792[16:11:21] <howtonotwin> java.util.function.Function

L793[16:11:26] <sham1> And the guava one

L794[16:11:26] <howtonotwin> and scala.Function1

L795[16:11:30] <howtonotwin> and that one ok

L796[16:11:35] <diesieben07> the scala one doesnt count

L797[16:11:42] <howtonotwin> but the method ref works the same on all 3

L798[16:11:46] <diesieben07> and the guava one is legacy because guava supports java 6

L799[16:11:48] <diesieben07> yes

L800[16:11:56] <howtonotwin> even though their common superclass is just Object

L801[16:11:57] <diesieben07> thats the niceness of the java 8 lambdas

L802[16:12:15] <diesieben07> they can stand in for any single abstract method interface

L803[16:12:16] <howtonotwin> So therefore the ref doesn't have a normal type as we know it.

L804[16:12:17] <diesieben07> whether new or not

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L806[16:12:35] <Ordinastie_> I still don't know how to make that comparator work :s

L807[16:12:50] <diesieben07> Callback has a method getPriority, yes?

L808[16:12:58] <Ordinastie_> Callback IS comparable

L809[16:13:07] <diesieben07> oh

L810[16:13:09] <Ordinastie_> my issue with Pair is the right that wasn't

L811[16:13:14] <diesieben07> well then.

L812[16:13:25] <diesieben07> Comparator.comparing(Pair::getLeft())

L813[16:13:48] <diesieben07> ah no

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L816[16:15:50] <Ordinastie_> diesieben07, ahah found it

L817[16:15:59] <Ordinastie_> you need the generic

L818[16:16:03] <diesieben07> yeah

L819[16:16:06] <Ordinastie_> so it knows what's what

L820[16:16:08] <howtonotwin> I think that's the second time I've fried sham's brain :D

L821[16:16:10] <Ordinastie_> makes sense

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L824[16:16:59] <sham1> Well this time it was because I was trying to do stuff that seems normal to me in other languages

L825[16:17:12] <sham1> But does not work in Java because reasons

L826[16:17:28] <sham1> I was just trying to compose the functions

L827[16:17:48] <howtonotwin> You can use a cast to beat the compiler into submission I think

L828[16:17:59] <sham1> But that's fugly

L829[16:18:09] <howtonotwin> ((Function) blah).compose(blah)

L830[16:18:15] <howtonotwin> dont quote me on that

L831[16:18:26] <Ordinastie_> PaleoCrafter, btw, you were right, FMLStateEvent is not called

L832[16:18:40] <sham1> Well I have eclipse open so I can confirm that

L833[16:18:49] <sham1> Just give me a second

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L835[16:19:09] <sham1> Welp, this works

L836[16:19:14] <sham1> Function<String, Integer> test = ((Function<String, Integer>)Integer::parseInt).andThen(Main::plusOne);

L837[16:19:25] <sham1> But it's fugly

L838[16:19:33] <howtonotwin> oh god what have we done

L839[16:19:36] <secknv> so createTileEntity gets called everytime a block is placed right?

L840[16:19:50] <Pearle> only when a tileentity is created from a block

L841[16:19:54] <Pearle> block != tileentity

L842[16:19:54] <sham1> Damn you Haskell. You have cursed me to try and compose everything

L843[16:20:05] <Ordinastie_> on the plus side, I can now do MalisisRegistry.onInit(e -> this::doStuff); \o/

L844[16:20:24] <Ordinastie_> secknv, yes

L845[16:20:56] <Ordinastie_> and also everytime the IBlockState for that position changes, unless you override TileEntity::shouldRefresh

L846[16:20:59] <secknv> the tile entities get auto-deleted when a block is brocken right?

L847[16:21:05] <Ordinastie_> yes

L848[16:21:47] <secknv> but say I was trying to optimise my looping-through-all-the-blocks-in-x-radius-of-player

L849[16:21:54] <secknv> into a list of my TE

L850[16:22:05] <secknv> that loops and check if any of them is near

L851[16:22:24] <LexManos> what?

L852[16:22:29] <secknv> is there a method that's called when the block is broken or the TE is destroyed

L853[16:22:38] <secknv> that I can use to delete TE entry from said list

L854[16:22:39] <Pearle> onBlockBroken?

L855[16:22:42] <LexManos> What are you doin?

L856[16:23:27] <secknv> so I have a copper coil block and I want compasses to point at it if it's powered and compass in x radius of it

L857[16:23:29] <Ordinastie_> secknv, breakBlock in your block

L858[16:23:52] <Ordinastie_> thats what's removes the TE, so if you override, call super

L859[16:24:22] <secknv> because I am very bad at java and forge I had a for loop go through all the blocks in x radius of player and check if it was my TE

L860[16:24:30] <secknv> Ordinastie_ thx

L861[16:24:43] <secknv> trying to do something better rn

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L864[16:25:25] <secknv> this is all happening inside an addPropertyOverride for the compass

L865[16:28:12] <secknv> very nice I see the if hasTE thingy delete it

L866[16:28:19] <secknv> nice tip

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L868[16:45:08] <secknv> why is createTileEntity getting called twice though

L869[16:45:29] <Ordinastie_> client server

L870[16:45:34] <secknv> both createTileENtity and BlockedPlacedBy are getting called 2 times when I place a block

L871[16:45:37] <howtonotwin> If something is getting called twice, normally blame sidedness

L872[16:45:37] <secknv> oh lol

L873[16:45:48] <secknv> can I fix it with and @sided

L874[16:45:52] <Ordinastie_> NO!

L875[16:45:54] <secknv> or does it need to be 2 sided

L876[16:45:55] <howtonotwin> NONONONONO

L877[16:45:58] <howtonotwin> world.isRemote

L878[16:46:04] <secknv> yes right

L879[16:46:06] <Ordinastie_> and it needs to be on both sides

L880[16:46:08] <secknv> forgot sorry

L881[16:46:16] <secknv> ty guys

L882[16:46:29] <secknv> erm remote world is server right

L883[16:46:34] <howtonotwin> no

L884[16:46:38] <howtonotwin> isRemote is client

L885[16:46:44] <howtonotwin> !isRemote is server

L886[16:47:02] <secknv> I am missing the logic behind this

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L888[16:47:20] <howtonotwin> The world exists on the server

L889[16:47:41] <Ordinastie_> isRemote is kinda isSlave

L890[16:47:43] <howtonotwin> therefore, on the client, the world is remote, as it exists somewhere else

L891[16:47:51] <secknv> oh very bice

L892[16:47:52] <Ordinastie_> or isAuthoritative

L893[16:47:54] <secknv> nice*

L894[16:47:59] <howtonotwin> on the server it is here and therefore not remote

L895[16:48:14] <Ordinastie_> well !isAuthoritative

L896[16:48:58] <secknv> so I guess since all I'm doing is adding and removing from a list of TE

L897[16:49:15] <secknv> it doesnt really matter if I go with the isRemote or !isRemote check

L898[16:49:17] <secknv> right

L899[16:49:27] <howtonotwin> NONONONONO

L900[16:49:42] <howtonotwin> The client and server will be stepping all over themselves if you don't

L901[16:49:46] <Ordinastie_> populate your list only on the client

L902[16:49:49] <howtonotwin> I assume you're using a static field

L903[16:49:51] <secknv> yes

L904[16:49:59] <Ordinastie_> also don't

L905[16:50:20] <howtonotwin> if you don't side check, the sides will race against each other and comodify the list.

L906[16:50:24] <howtonotwin> and yes, don't

L907[16:50:33] <secknv> 1st why should I populate it only on the client

L908[16:50:46] <secknv> 2nd why is a static field bad for this

L909[16:50:57] <Ordinastie_> the list serves for rendering of the item

L910[16:51:02] <howtonotwin> because you need the list on the client for the compass property to know about it

L911[16:51:02] <Ordinastie_> what rendering is done on server ?

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L913[16:51:39] <howtonotwin> If you have an SP world, there are two threads running on the same JVM

L914[16:52:01] <howtonotwin> in that case, the client and server share static fields and such

L915[16:52:14] <howtonotwin> If both sides manage to modify the list simultaneously

L916[16:52:18] <howtonotwin> it explodes

L917[16:52:58] <secknv> but if I write an if(isRemote) on all the places there is list modify code

L918[16:53:04] <secknv> it's ok no?

L919[16:53:07] <howtonotwin> yes

L920[16:53:32] <secknv> because correct me if wrong but this sort of list needs to be static right

L921[16:53:56] <secknv> to keep track of all the diferent instances of the TE

L922[16:54:40] <howtonotwin> yes

L923[16:55:20] <Ordinastie_> it doesn't HAVE TO

L924[16:55:52] <secknv> if I unstaticate it wont I have a different list for every instance of my TE

L925[16:57:12] <Ordinastie_> depends on where you put your list

L926[16:57:39] <howtonotwin> Well you can place it into your BlockCoil (or whatever) class, which is a singleton, as an instance field. But then the instance of BlockCoil is static.

L927[16:58:12] <secknv> and doing that is better than it being static?

L928[16:58:14] <howtonotwin> Basically there's has to be something static SOMEWHERE down the line

L929[16:58:21] <howtonotwin> no it makes no difference

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L931[17:01:10] <secknv> so I have this in the CoilBlock class http://pastebin.com/sijAQuda

L932[17:01:26] <secknv> what did I derp to still get [net.secknv.nkmod.tileentity.TileEntityCoil@768e0168, net.secknv.nkmod.tileentity.TileEntityCoil@34fe7a40]

L933[17:01:31] <secknv> on the log

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L935[17:01:39] <secknv> when I place just 1 it logs a list with 2

L936[17:02:50] <Ordinastie_> do you ever clear the list ?

L937[17:03:28] <secknv> on the same class http://pastebin.com/jGGyedjG

L938[17:03:51] <diesieben07> ok so

L939[17:03:56] <diesieben07> this is never going to work with manually clearning the list

L940[17:04:02] <diesieben07> you need to use WeakReferecnes

L941[17:04:30] <diesieben07> i haven't been following closely, what exactly are you trying to do? :D

L942[17:04:46] <Ordinastie_> have the TE impact the animation of the player compas

L943[17:04:48] <Ordinastie_> s

L944[17:04:56] <diesieben07> on that thing still

L945[17:05:00] <Ordinastie_> lol

L946[17:05:01] <diesieben07> what's the radius now? :D

L947[17:05:08] <diesieben07> it used to be 3 blocks...

L948[17:05:09] <Ordinastie_> 7x7x7

L949[17:05:11] <Ordinastie_> I think

L950[17:05:18] <secknv> yes still 3 blocks

L951[17:05:19] <diesieben07> just scan the chunk TE map...

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L953[17:05:24] <sham1> 7 to every direction I hope

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L955[17:05:36] <diesieben07> 7x7x7 is like 2 chunks max

L956[17:05:47] <secknv> well for scalabilty and stuff

L957[17:05:48] <howtonotwin> 4

L958[17:05:48] <diesieben07> just scan the lists, that is infinitely easier than what you are doing

L959[17:05:56] <diesieben07> right, 4

L960[17:05:57] <howtonotwin> do you even math bruh xD

L961[17:06:00] <Ordinastie_> is that list accessible ?

L962[17:06:00] <diesieben07> 3d is hard

L963[17:06:03] <diesieben07> sure is

L964[17:06:08] <diesieben07> has a public getter even

L965[17:06:25] <howtonotwin> m8 this is 2D

L966[17:06:32] <sham1> But will the compass be webscale

L967[17:07:06] <secknv> my idea was to add TE to list when block placed and remove it when block broken

L968[17:07:08] <secknv> so that http://pastebin.com/e7mzNsSz

L969[17:07:19] <secknv> I could use that thing in the compass override

L970[17:07:22] <diesieben07> like i siad, that will not work

L971[17:07:31] <diesieben07> it just screams memory leak

L972[17:07:40] <Ordinastie_> yes

L973[17:07:41] <diesieben07> plus it is unnecessary

L974[17:08:57] <secknv> so you were saying the position of every TE in a chunk is known?

L975[17:09:02] <diesieben07> yes...

L976[17:09:07] <diesieben07> Chunk::getTileEntityMAp

L977[17:09:15] <diesieben07> gives you a Map<Blockpos, TE> for all Tes in that chunk

L978[17:09:37] <diesieben07> so you scan that for all eligble chunks and you are good

L979[17:09:48] <howtonotwin> I think we have a getChunksInAABB too. Don't quote me though.

L980[17:10:16] <Ordinastie_> is there, I know i had to make my own

L981[17:11:28] <secknv> hm I'll try to come up with something not so stupid that uses that TE map

L982[17:11:48] <secknv> thx

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L1032[19:57:27] <Eccles> when I try to start minecraft from eclipse (1.7.10) to test something, all the text in the main menu buttons is replaced by random textures, which are different each time I open it. Any ideas?

L1033[19:57:40] <williewillus> are you on a mac?

L1034[19:57:53] <Eccles> yes indeed!

L1035[19:58:01] <williewillus> try disabling the forge splash screen

L1036[19:58:07] <williewillus> in config/splash.properties

L1037[19:58:15] <Eccles> will do, one sec

L1038[20:01:28] <Eccles> at risk of seeming like the noob I am, where in the folder I downloaded forge into is all the…stuff?

L1039[20:03:15] <howtonotwin> somewhere in your gradle file there should be a line runDir = ...

L1040[20:03:31] <williewillus> what do you mean stuff? :P

L1041[20:03:34] <howtonotwin> If not, there should be assetDir = ...

L1042[20:03:49] <williewillus> the run environment is in the eclipse/ folder in 1.7 iirc

L1043[20:03:58] <howtonotwin> The folder in which MC is run is either runDir or assetDir/..

L1044[20:04:40] <howtonotwin> so config/splash.properties would be under that

L1045[20:05:16] <Eccles> ah, found it in eclipse/config/splash.properties

L1046[20:06:23] <Eccles> okay, disabled it. that fixed it

L1047[20:06:30] <Eccles> but why was it doing that?

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L1049[20:09:53] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> no one really knows :P

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L1051[20:11:11] <Eccles> well, okay! Is it only an issue when running from Eclipse? I've never had that happen otherwise

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L1054[20:19:47] <williewillus> Eccles: the times it's happened it's always been on a mac, hence that was the first thing I asked

L1055[20:19:57] <williewillus> no one really knows exactly why though

L1056[20:20:35] <Ordinastie_> did I mention I love Zero Punctuation ? ><

L1057[20:21:13] <primetoxinz> but ? is a punctuation :3

L1058[20:21:35] <Ordinastie_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAJRw4flK40&index=128&list=PLAbMhAYRuCUhC85vZRvBBdYPJk-9pLN-8

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L1064[21:09:09] <Tazz> yo williewillus whats up with the font in botania? XD

L1065[21:09:16] <Tazz> its kinda like hard to read...

L1066[21:09:18] <williewillus> ?

L1067[21:09:27] <williewillus> in the lexicon?

L1068[21:09:32] <williewillus> it's the standard mc unicode font

L1069[21:09:49] <Tazz> yeah

L1070[21:09:56] <Tazz> like its seriously bad XD

L1071[21:10:01] <williewillus> no it isn't :P

L1072[21:10:02] <Tazz> 1 sec Ill screenie it for you

L1073[21:10:04] <williewillus> it's the standard font

L1074[21:10:10] <williewillus> okay

L1075[21:11:01] <Tazz> http://i.imgur.com/XTCKVD3.png

L1076[21:11:15] <williewillus> that's your resource pack

L1077[21:11:18] <tterrag> ^

L1078[21:11:21] <Tazz> hmm true

L1079[21:11:25] <Tazz> I didnt think about that

L1080[21:11:27] <tterrag> but also, are you on Normal GUI size?

L1081[21:11:50] <tterrag> try large

L1082[21:11:52] <Tazz> but I havent seen other places it was like that...mostly why I assumed it was a botania thing

L1083[21:11:56] <Ordinastie_> williewillus, are you rendering font with scale < 1 ?

L1084[21:12:02] <williewillus> no idea

L1085[21:12:14] <williewillus> the lexicon code is basically 100% unchanged

L1086[21:12:18] <williewillus> :P

L1087[21:12:21] <Tazz> yeah no Im on large and its still is like borked XD

L1088[21:12:28] <Tazz> so it must be my resource pack XD

L1089[21:12:36] <Tazz> fair enough haha

L1090[21:12:46] <williewillus> well it is for sure because the standard font doesn't look like that

L1091[21:12:46] <Ordinastie_> it looks like that because the font scale doesn't match gui scale

L1092[21:12:49] <Tazz> thanks anyways williewillus, and tterrag

L1093[21:13:25] <Tazz> not sure Im going to sacrifice my resource pack for a random font bug >.>

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L1095[21:13:35] <Tazz> if it gets too bad I may have to haha

L1096[21:13:47] <tterrag> actually normal might look better

L1097[21:13:53] <Ordinastie_> Tazz, at least check what it looks like without the RP

L1098[21:14:00] <Tazz> yeah I can do that haha

L1099[21:14:22] <Tazz> everything is built to be supportive of my resourcepack though XD

L1100[21:14:26] <Ordinastie_> but if I'm right, it will still look bad

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L1102[21:14:29] <Tazz> haha

L1103[21:14:32] <Tazz> Im checking now

L1104[21:15:04] <Tazz> actually holy crap its not so bad without the resource pack either haha

L1105[21:15:07] <Tazz> checking the book now

L1106[21:15:15] <Tazz> yeah the book is fine

L1107[21:15:24] <Ordinastie_> screen ?

L1108[21:15:48] <williewillus> Ordinastie_: no scaling before rendering text

L1109[21:15:49] <tterrag> it looks like the font uses a different pt size

L1110[21:15:53] <Tazz> http://i.imgur.com/3Pd1kWs.png

L1111[21:16:05] <Tazz> williewillus, I totally made that mistake before haha

L1112[21:16:07] <tterrag> the text seems bigger

L1113[21:16:11] <primetoxinz> you're not using optifine are you Tazz?

L1114[21:16:13] <tterrag> which of course would break scaled rendering entirely

L1115[21:16:13] <Tazz> no

L1116[21:16:21] <primetoxinz> ok, you could just turn custom font off if you were

L1117[21:16:26] <tterrag> Tazz: on a whim, try resource pack + normal size

L1118[21:16:28] <Tazz> not that Im aware of haha

L1119[21:16:33] <williewillus> if there was a problem with the lexicon w default textures vaz (and I) would have gotten lots more reports ;p

L1120[21:16:34] <Tazz> tterrag, normal size UI?

L1121[21:16:38] <tterrag> yes

L1122[21:16:56] <Tazz> uh I think it was on normal when I sent willie the first ping.. XXD

L1123[21:17:01] <Tazz> but I can check again if you want

L1124[21:17:48] <tterrag> that's what I said initially

L1125[21:17:50] <tterrag> try large, then

L1126[21:17:56] <Tazz> http://i.imgur.com/Nc4ijn4.png its actually still pretty haha

L1127[21:18:01] <Tazz> tterrag, its on large now :X

L1128[21:18:22] <tterrag> and with the resource pack, is the text still broken?

L1129[21:18:26] <RANKSHANK> you could probably just pull out the font/gui textures from the pack and let it fall back to default for those

L1130[21:18:28] <Tazz> yes

L1131[21:18:38] <tterrag> *sigh*

L1132[21:18:40] <Tazz> RANKSHANK, I may do that haha Im not to fond of the font anyways haha

L1133[21:18:46] <tterrag> could you just post a screenshot of the resource pack with large and normal ?

L1134[21:18:50] <tterrag> of the book

L1135[21:18:52] <Tazz> yeah

L1136[21:19:17] <Tazz> the first one that I sent was normal

L1137[21:19:18] <Tazz> heres large

L1138[21:20:48] <Ordinastie_> missing the link ? :p

L1139[21:20:56] <Tazz> http://i.imgur.com/iPtmXSJ.png

L1140[21:21:12] <Tazz> sorry takes a minute to switch packs due to the amount of mods haha

L1141[21:21:26] <Ordinastie_> that's really weird

L1142[21:21:48] <Tazz> Ordinastie_, what is? XD

L1143[21:21:50] <Tazz> the font being weird?

L1144[21:22:12] <Ordinastie_> that kind of failed font is usually because of scaled down rendering

L1145[21:22:15] <Tazz> I ddint think of it the first time but yeah its most likely the font itself being borked

L1146[21:22:26] <Tazz> Ive faced this before while workign on my own mod haha

L1147[21:22:33] <williewillus> https://github.com/williewillus/Botania/blob/d2aa4e0ebcf6b7bf10fdd10f76d04086f1364617/src/main/java/vazkii/botania/client/gui/lexicon/button/GuiButtonInvisible.java#L102-L102

L1148[21:22:44] <Vazkii> dude same

L1149[21:23:12] <Vazkii> I made a rule to not ping me on urls but it still pings me :(

L1150[21:23:23] <Tazz> haha

L1151[21:23:23] <williewillus> lol

L1152[21:23:49] <Tazz> hey Vazki anyways haha

L1153[21:23:55] <Ordinastie_> tss, look at him complaining that his mod is famous :p

L1154[21:24:01] <Tazz> haha

L1155[21:24:10] <tterrag> Tazz: there's no way that's large

L1156[21:24:11] <Vazkii> I'd say that 80% of my pings come from here and links to my code

L1157[21:24:12] <tterrag> it looks identical

L1158[21:24:20] <Tazz> tterrag, it is

L1159[21:24:30] <tterrag> http://i.imgur.com/iPtmXSJ.png http://i.imgur.com/XTCKVD3.png

L1160[21:24:32] <tterrag> flick between those

L1161[21:24:34] <tterrag> they are not different sizes

L1162[21:24:40] <Tazz> ik

L1163[21:24:45] <tterrag> -_-

L1164[21:24:48] <primetoxinz> lel

L1165[21:25:05] <howtonotwin> "some guy: how do I do X" "me: Quark/Botania does it, here" :P

L1166[21:25:06] <Tazz> small is the only setting that is different for some reason

L1167[21:25:16] <williewillus> how big is your window?

L1168[21:25:21] <Tazz> lol

L1169[21:25:23] <tterrag> omg...your window is tiny

L1170[21:25:43] <Tazz> I have my PC connected to my TV...

L1171[21:25:49] <Tazz> kik

L1172[21:25:52] <Tazz> lol*

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L1174[21:25:56] <tterrag> 1300x700 it appears

L1175[21:25:59] <tterrag> or something like that

L1176[21:26:06] <Tazz> lol

L1177[21:26:08] <tterrag> maybe 1280x720, 720p ?

L1178[21:26:12] <Tazz> Im not sure haha

L1179[21:26:12] <tterrag> do you have a 720p TV??

L1180[21:26:14] <Tazz> yes

L1181[21:26:19] <tterrag> I wasn't aware that existed

L1182[21:26:22] <Tazz> maybe

L1183[21:26:25] <Tazz> idk

L1184[21:26:25] <Tazz> haha

L1185[21:26:32] <tterrag> are you sure your comp settings aren't just screwed up

L1186[21:26:39] <Tazz> they could be afaik

L1187[21:26:42] <tterrag> I severely doubt your TV is 720p

L1188[21:26:53] <tterrag> check your resolution settings

L1189[21:26:57] <Ordinastie_> tterrag, why not ?

L1190[21:26:59] <Tazz> doing it right now XD

L1191[21:27:08] <Ordinastie_> do you think TVs when from SD to FullHD directly? :p

L1192[21:27:13] <tterrag> yes

L1193[21:27:15] <tterrag> they did

L1194[21:27:20] <Ordinastie_> no they didn't

L1195[21:27:22] <Tazz> 1360x768

L1196[21:27:22] <Tazz> XD

L1197[21:28:04] <Ordinastie_> well, they didn't went to fullHD directly from SD, but there stil were just HD TVs

L1198[21:28:06] <Tazz> as far as pixel density Im not sure haha

L1199[21:28:09] <Ordinastie_> cost less

L1200[21:28:22] <Ordinastie_> is your TV old ?

L1201[21:28:30] <Tazz> relatively

L1202[21:28:37] <Ordinastie_> 10y ?

L1203[21:28:46] <Tazz> definitely no XD

L1204[21:28:59] <Ordinastie_> well, you probably have full HD then :p

L1205[21:29:08] <tterrag> does your settings allow you to change resolution to 1080

L1206[21:29:10] <Tazz> like I said I have no idea haha

L1207[21:29:12] <Tazz> yes

L1208[21:29:14] <tterrag> then do that

L1209[21:29:16] <tterrag> for the love of god

L1210[21:29:29] <Ordinastie_> lol

L1211[21:29:34] <Tazz> I think

L1212[21:29:38] <Tazz> idk

L1213[21:29:38] <Tazz> haha

L1214[21:29:43] <tterrag> anyways, my guess: the resource pack dev uses a 1080 monitor with large GUI size and it looked fine to him

L1215[21:29:51] <tterrag> what he didn't realize is that normal GUI size doesn't use a PoT scaling factor

L1216[21:29:57] <tterrag> so it screws up everything

L1217[21:30:04] <Tazz> fair enough lol

L1218[21:30:22] <tterrag> and he probably doesn't care because I'd hazard a guess that most people use GUI size large

L1219[21:30:39] <Ordinastie_> tterrag, how can that even be possible ?

L1220[21:30:45] <tterrag> Ordinastie_: what do you mean?

L1221[21:31:10] <Ordinastie_> large GUI is just multiplying the scale by 3

L1222[21:31:30] <Ordinastie_> you still have to design you font with scaling by 1 in mind

L1223[21:31:43] <tterrag> vanilla unicode font is 8pt

L1224[21:31:49] <Ordinastie_> yes

L1225[21:31:51] <tterrag> this resource pack looks like 10pt

L1226[21:32:17] <Ordinastie_> and in large gui, it will be drawn over 30px

L1227[21:32:49] <tterrag> no, font height is always 9px (8)

L1228[21:32:53] <tterrag> it's a constant in the font renderer

L1229[21:33:04] <Ordinastie_> yes, but the scaling is just glScale

L1230[21:33:04] <Tazz> ^^

L1231[21:33:15] <Tazz> like it literally is a constant XD

L1232[21:33:17] <tterrag> which is why it fails

L1233[21:33:29] <Ordinastie_> oh I see what you mean

L1234[21:33:33] <Tazz> and its hardly noticeable without actually lookign at it XD

L1235[21:33:36] <tterrag> because 10 is not a power of two

L1236[21:33:44] <Tazz> like I didnt know it was a constant till I looked at the font renderer code XD

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L1238[21:34:04] <tterrag> the resource pack author has broken a fundamental assumption of the font renderer

L1239[21:34:07] <tterrag> that ALL fonts are 8pt

L1240[21:34:24] <tterrag> (16, 32, 64 would also work, but definitely not 10 or 12 or whatever this is)

L1241[21:35:04] <tterrag> aaaanyways...I need to sleep

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L1243[21:35:13] <Tazz> night tterrag|ZZZzzz

L1244[21:35:26] <Ordinastie_> I should go too, but too hot :/

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