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L1[00:00:16] <Lach_01298> method createTileEntity is not in block

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L3[00:00:45] <TehNut> I'm looking right at it

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L5[00:03:40] <Lach_01298> ok it is there

L6[00:06:17] <Lach_01298> ok it's rendering but the tile entity is not working

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L10[00:17:39] <Lach_01298> i fixed it. i changed it back to BlockContainer and change the render type because for some reason the default is invisible

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L20[00:43:45] <Zidane> So with an obj, where do you specify the adjustments per transform type.

L21[00:44:04] <Zidane> Is that in the material? If so, what is the key/value it is looking for

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L24[00:53:54] <sweetpi> Zidane: you mean like translation and rotation? iirc obj doesnt support transforms. everything is baked

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L31[01:11:09] <Lymia> \o/

L32[01:11:30] <Lymia> Scala IDE warns for trivial style issues like "!list.isEmpty" rather than "list.nonEmpty" or having extra parenthesis.

L33[01:11:37] <Lymia> It doesn't warn for stuff like "Hey, you know you should use IndexedSeq if you want to guarantee O(1) indexing, right?"

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L45[01:59:59] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20160821 mappings to Forge Maven.

L46[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20160821-1.10.2.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20160821" in build.gradle).

L47[02:00:13] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L51[02:07:27] <Waterpicker> I need help. When setting up my project. This happened. https://gist.github.com/Waterpicker/0c651f83d5b54d1ad7a1a3220f591d45

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L59[02:29:16] <sham1> Please paste your build.gradle

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L64[02:44:25] <Akkarin> hmmm ... entity spawning changed a bit, huh ... is there anything apart from registration that has to be done in order to get spawn eggs to work?

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L66[02:44:44] <Akkarin> (egg registration being included with that)

L67[02:45:39] <sham1> Waterpicker, could you provide us wit your build.gradle

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L69[02:46:04] <Waterpicker> Eh fixed that issue awhile ago. :3

L70[02:46:10] <sham1> ah

L71[02:46:23] <Waterpicker> I am looking for how to create custom world types thou.

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L73[02:51:50] <Akkarin> Well ... apparently I'm lacking something that makes eggs not work. Spawning the entity through another item works ...

L74[02:52:16] <Akkarin> If I'd have to guess I'd say eggs do not like spawning non-living entities? :D

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L90[03:34:10] <Waterpicker> zHllo

L91[03:34:25] <Waterpicker> Hello Is it possible I can talk to someone about an idea of mine?

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L94[03:35:29] <Ordinastie_> well, you can talk, sure

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L96[03:37:05] <Waterpicker> Altering the way Chunk loading works so that world in a literal sense can be wrapped.

L97[03:37:33] <sham1> what do you mean by wrapping

L98[03:37:33] <Waterpicker> Chunk from one side of the world loading infront of a player as they walk forward

L99[03:37:37] <sham1> ah

L100[03:37:46] <Waterpicker> No teleporting or hax like that.

L101[03:37:49] <Waterpicker> The real article.

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L103[03:38:22] <Ordinastie_> good luck with that

L104[03:39:13] <Waterpicker> The idea was orginally spawned as a near perfect solution for keeping world size small while allowing minecraft players move infinite in any direction.

L105[03:39:44] <Waterpicker> Actually I found were I would ahve modify.

L106[03:40:21] <Waterpicker> The issue is that I want to stay compatible with most mods including SpongeForge due to idea being meant for server usage.

L107[03:40:50] <Ordinastie_> maybe a simple % in getChunkFromCoord or something

L108[03:41:34] <Ordinastie_> but if you want to look seamless, you'd need to alter the world gen too

L109[03:41:47] <Waterpicker> Yea. I've known this hard caveat for a while

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L112[03:42:30] <Waterpicker> Two fold issue.

L113[03:42:36] <Ordinastie_> actually, just % to get chunks is not enough

L114[03:42:59] <Waterpicker> It is why I'm asking for advice on this.

L115[03:43:04] <Ordinastie_> you'd have to wrap every other coord probably

L116[03:43:39] <Ordinastie_> I think it's probably way more complicated than we can think

L117[03:43:53] <Ordinastie_> and lead to many more problem than anticipated

L118[03:44:09] <sham1> Inb4 having to coremod that shit

L119[03:44:25] <Ordinastie_> that's a given

L120[03:44:41] <Waterpicker> Yea.

L121[03:44:45] <Ordinastie_> very heavy in hooks

L122[03:44:55] <Waterpicker> hooks?

L123[03:45:04] <TechnicianLP> the other thing is how would you handle multiple players?

L124[03:45:44] <Ordinastie_> ^ that's why I say simply % on the get chunk wouldn't not be enough

L125[03:45:59] <Ordinastie_> you'd need to do that for all the coords

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L129[03:50:33] <Waterpicker> just general spam of all the coordiantes?

L130[03:51:06] <Ordinastie_> what ?

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L132[03:51:48] <gigaherz> morning, apparently my computer stopped being "on" around 7:53am -- I suppose power was out for a bit

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L134[03:51:57] <gigaherz> what did I m iss? ;P

L135[03:52:09] <Ordinastie_> http://sbnc.khobbits.co.uk/log/logs/minecraftforge.htm

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L137[03:52:15] <Kaiyouka> Woah, I forgot this channel was a thing

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L140[03:52:46] <gigaherz> how do you forget that the #1 source for modding information on modern forge, exists?

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L142[03:53:15] <Kaiyouka> I don't mod anymore?

L143[03:53:22] <gigaherz> Oh I see.

L144[03:53:31] <Kaiyouka> Well, it's severely low on the priorities list

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L146[03:53:37] <gigaherz> EWH

L147[03:53:49] <gigaherz> that's on my log from before the log stopped logging

L148[03:53:49] <gigaherz> [07:17] (Lach_01298): i fixed it. i changed it back to BlockContainer and change the render type because for some reason the default is invisible

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L150[03:54:01] <gigaherz> WHY? WHY are people still using BlockComtainer?!

L151[03:54:06] <Kaiyouka> lol

L152[03:54:08] <sham1> because stupid

L153[03:54:36] <Kaiyouka> You mean Forge still doesn't have code to nuke the modder if they use BlockContainer?

L154[03:54:43] <Kaiyouka> Tsk, for shame big L, you're slacking ;p

L155[03:54:52] <Kaiyouka> j/k

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L157[03:54:54] <gigaherz> not it just drops its head sadly and sighs

L158[03:55:33] <gigaherz> does help that mojang is teaching people to ignore @Deprecated

L159[03:55:49] <gigaherz> since they are using it as "@Internal"

L160[03:56:01] <Kaiyouka> ... the fuck?

L161[03:56:16] <gigaherz> in 1.9.4, they started providing the jars with annotation info

L162[03:56:29] <gigaherz> so all the methods in Block, that are not meant to be called directly

L163[03:56:38] <gigaherz> and should be called from IBlockState

L164[03:56:41] <gigaherz> are now @Deprecated

L165[03:56:47] <Kaiyouka> O_o

L166[03:56:53] <gigaherz> but you still have to override them for your new blocks

L167[03:57:05] <Kaiyouka> Mojerng plz

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L169[03:59:15] <Kaiyouka> well

L170[03:59:33] <Kaiyouka> I guess I can't really be critical of Mojang's.. um... aesthetic.

L171[03:59:46] <Kaiyouka> Kind of a pot-calling-kettle-black thing

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L174[04:06:34] <gigaherz> to be honest, I can't really blame them for their choice of annotation

L175[04:06:45] <gigaherz> java's protected wouldn't have helped that much

L176[04:07:05] <gigaherz> since it would have still allowed anything in the package to access it

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L178[04:07:31] <Kaiyouka> Fair enough, I s'pose

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L181[04:11:37] <Waterpicker> Fascinating

L182[04:12:12] <Waterpicker> Ordinastie_, I think the modifications in modern minecraft was smaller than one would think

L183[04:12:40] <Ordinastie_> ?

L184[04:13:25] <Waterpicker> ChunkPos and BlockPos define Block side of things of what I need for chunkwrap

L185[04:14:00] <Ordinastie_> hum, not sure what you're saying

L186[04:14:15] <Ordinastie_> but if you want to wrap, you need entities to wrap too

L187[04:15:36] <Waterpicker> I know

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L201[05:30:31] <LexLap2> Slacking? Fuck you.

L202[05:30:42] <LexLap2> And there is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much shit I would do... if I could.

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L204[05:36:37] *** Server sets mode: +CQcnrtf #RegisterYourNameMoron

L205[05:37:58] <sham1> More like megahelpful

L206[05:38:37] <Curle> :L

L207[05:38:51] <Curle> says shamWOW

L208[05:39:12] <sham1> :/

L209[05:39:28] <Curle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8

L210[05:39:55] <Curle> i can rub it in all day

L211[05:39:56] <gigaherz> are you really arguing over if I'm 10^6 worth of helpfulness, or 10^9?

L212[05:40:07] <Curle> it's perspective

L213[05:40:35] <sham1> shamwow is German engineering

L214[05:40:41] <sham1> thus I am flattered

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L218[05:48:34] <sham1> and yes giga

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L225[06:01:49] <Curle> yes, we are.

L226[06:02:14] <Curle> hooray

L227[06:02:22] <Curle> i just got the subsystem working

L228[06:02:37] <sham1> yay

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L230[06:05:26] <Curle> i am now in the ranks of the windows/linux hybrids :D

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L233[06:08:14] <Hawaii_Beach> so.. i'm back at it with creating a log class

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L235[06:13:03] <Curle> Hey guys, what files are required for gradlew to work?

L236[06:13:32] <Curle> i mean, from the folder you install it. I moved the bat and build.gradle and it's complaining, so what else do I have to move? :L

L237[06:16:06] <Hawaii_Beach> is the wiki outdated or am i retarded?

L238[06:16:44] <gigaherz> Curle: technically, just the build.gradle -- if you have gradle on your computer

L239[06:16:45] <gigaherz> but

L240[06:16:56] <gigaherz> gradlew/gradlew.bat, the gradle folder (gradle wrapper), and the build.gradle file

L241[06:17:04] <Curle> the gradle foldeR?

L242[06:17:07] <Curle> damnit

L243[06:17:12] <Curle> but yeah, i'll try that.

L244[06:17:13] <Curle> :L

L245[06:17:22] <Curle> i'm setting up jenkins the easiest way i know

L246[06:17:32] <Curle> execute gradlew build when i push to git :L

L247[06:17:48] <Curle> damn son

L248[06:17:52] <Curle> it's installing gradle

L249[06:17:58] <Curle> no wonder it's taking ages

L250[06:17:59] <Curle> :L

L251[06:19:16] <Curle> it's building

L252[06:19:18] <Curle> im so hyped

L253[06:19:54] <Hawaii_Beach> what happened to the BlockState class?

L254[06:20:03] <gigaherz> Hawaii_Beach: BlockStateContainer

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L256[06:20:15] <gigaherz> read this: https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.8.9-to-1.9

L257[06:20:17] <Hawaii_Beach> yeah was just about to ask if i should read the code

L258[06:20:23] <gigaherz> and this: https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.9-to-1.9.4

L259[06:20:32] <Hawaii_Beach> ah thank you

L260[06:20:35] <Curle> damn son

L261[06:20:36] <gigaherz> also, looking at vanilla blocks does help

L262[06:20:36] <gigaherz> ;P

L263[06:20:41] <Hawaii_Beach> yeah i did

L264[06:20:45] <Curle> basic error in my code ;-;

L265[06:20:48] <Hawaii_Beach> but as you've said, not too much

L266[06:22:03] <Hawaii_Beach> should i use PropertyEnum?

L267[06:22:23] <gigaherz> do you want to expose enums as blockstate properties?

L268[06:22:42] <Hawaii_Beach> or what should i use?

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L270[06:22:48] <gigaherz> whatever fits your needs.

L271[06:22:52] <gigaherz> PropertyBool

L272[06:22:54] <gigaherz> PropertyInteger

L273[06:22:56] <gigaherz> PropertyEnum

L274[06:22:57] <Hawaii_Beach> well just a basic axis thingy

L275[06:23:02] <gigaherz> PropertyFacing

L276[06:23:11] <gigaherz> no need to do the enum yourself.

L277[06:23:15] <Hawaii_Beach> ah

L278[06:23:52] <Hawaii_Beach> so PropertyFacing then?

L279[06:24:01] <gigaherz> well

L280[06:24:11] <gigaherz> what EXACTLY will you ahve in it?

L281[06:24:15] <Curle> https://gist.github.com/343Modding/35614d7df315d215f5770ef264124d21

L282[06:24:23] <Hawaii_Beach> log axis

L283[06:24:26] <Curle> uhm, anyone got a clue as to what's going on here? :L

L284[06:24:28] <gigaherz> aha log-like, then

L285[06:24:37] <gigaherz> then you may want to use BlockLog.LOG_AXIS

L286[06:24:44] <gigaherz> which will already do the job for your needs

L287[06:24:46] <Hawaii_Beach> wat, i can use its

L288[06:24:50] <Hawaii_Beach> omg why didn't someone tell me

L289[06:24:53] <gigaherz> the "public static final" stuff yes

L290[06:25:16] <Hawaii_Beach> protected BlockStateContainer createBlockState() {

L291[06:25:16] <Hawaii_Beach> return new BlockStateContainer(this, BlockLog.AXIS);

L292[06:25:16] <Hawaii_Beach> } ?

L293[06:25:20] <gigaherz> yup

L294[06:25:23] <Hawaii_Beach> well

L295[06:25:25] <Hawaii_Beach> that's too easy

L296[06:25:36] <gigaherz> and then whenever you use .withProperty(BlockLog.LOG_AXIS, value)

L297[06:25:51] <gigaherz> it's a bit longer than declaring your own

L298[06:25:54] <gigaherz> but /shrug

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L301[06:27:04] <gigaherz> oh and, if it's really a pillar and not a log, BlockRotatedPillar may be a better fit -- you can even extend that ;P

L302[06:27:09] <Hawaii_Beach> yeah what about the.withProperty

L303[06:27:18] <gigaherz> .withProperty(BlockLog.LOG_AXIS, value)

L304[06:27:27] <gigaherz> .getValue(BlockLog.LOG_AXIS)

L305[06:27:35] <Hawaii_Beach> i'll have to override onBlockPlaced too?

L306[06:27:56] <gigaherz> depends on if the base class is good enough for you

L307[06:28:10] <Hawaii_Beach> ah

L308[06:28:22] <Hawaii_Beach> i'll have to call setDefaultState() ?

L309[06:28:34] <gigaherz> ofc

L310[06:29:03] <Hawaii_Beach> is setDefaultState(this.getDefaultState()); enough?

L311[06:29:17] <Hawaii_Beach> or do i need to set a axis?

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L313[06:30:57] <gigaherz> well if thedefault value for the axis is good enough for you...

L314[06:31:20] <gigaherz> I like to be explicit

L315[06:31:24] <gigaherz> in case somehow the ordering of the values changes

L316[06:31:28] <gigaherz> so it will still have the same default

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L318[06:31:57] <Hawaii_Beach> ok, and is it BlockLog.AXIS or BlockLog.LOG_AXIS i'm looking for?

L319[06:32:09] <gigaherz> it's LOG_AXIS I'm seeing in my code

L320[06:32:15] <gigaherz> but maybe the mappings are different for you

L321[06:32:22] <gigaherz> oh I see

L322[06:32:25] <Hawaii_Beach> well i see both

L323[06:32:28] <gigaherz> BlockLog extends BlockRotatedPillar

L324[06:32:33] <gigaherz> and the latter has its own .AXIS

L325[06:32:36] <Hawaii_Beach> ah

L326[06:32:42] <gigaherz> wit hthe same EXACT declaration

L327[06:32:45] <gigaherz> so whatever you like.

L328[06:32:47] <gigaherz> it won't matter.

L329[06:33:15] <gigaherz> the log has its own EnumAxis

L330[06:33:21] <gigaherz> while BlockRotatedPillar uses EnumFacing.Axis

L331[06:33:31] <gigaherz> choose whichever you like the most.

L332[06:36:06] <Hawaii_Beach> i'm obvioulsly missing something

L333[06:36:38] <fry> an eyebrow?

L334[06:36:51] <gigaherz> lol!

L335[06:36:56] <Hawaii_Beach> that too for sure

L336[06:37:20] <gigaherz> Hawaii_Beach: did you read this yet? http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blockstates/states/

L337[06:37:29] <Hawaii_Beach> i'm reading it atm

L338[06:40:49] <Hawaii_Beach> hm, using BlockLog.LOG_AXIS crashes the game

L339[06:41:12] <Hawaii_Beach> a IllegalArgumentException

L340[06:41:28] <Hawaii_Beach> nevermind

L341[06:41:33] <Hawaii_Beach> forgot to use setBlockState

L342[06:41:51] <Hawaii_Beach> setDefaultState*

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L344[06:42:50] <Hawaii_Beach> i dont get it, what IBlockState should i return?

L345[06:43:54] <Ordinastie_> the one you want as default

L346[06:44:02] <Hawaii_Beach> IBlockState.withProperty cannot be called from a non-static context?

L347[06:44:22] <Ordinastie_> obviously not

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L349[06:44:58] <Hawaii_Beach> BlockStateContainer getBlockState ?

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L351[06:45:29] <Ordinastie_> maybe you should look what some other blocks do ?

L352[06:47:37] <Hawaii_Beach> looking at BlockLog, it doesn't do anything special

L353[06:48:21] <Ordinastie_> do you know what an abstract class is ?

L354[06:52:14] <Hawaii_Beach> no

L355[06:52:42] <Ordinastie_> then you should start by learning java, and then you can start to mod

L356[06:53:35] <Ordinastie_> otherwise, the only thing that will happen is you coming here asking for every line of code you need to write :/

L357[06:55:22] <TechnicianLP> setupDecompWorkspace takes a long time in conjuction with an AT

L358[06:56:22] <Hawaii_Beach> no i was kidding, didn't notice BlockLog was abstract tho

L359[06:57:06] <Hawaii_Beach> so that's why you have to return your own stuff..

L360[06:57:23] <Ordinastie_> not really

L361[06:57:52] <Hawaii_Beach> yea true

L362[06:58:37] <Ordinastie_> TechnicianLP, it has to download the deps at this stage

L363[06:58:47] <Ordinastie_> and can't use the cache

L364[06:59:02] <TechnicianLP> thats a good point

L365[06:59:27] <Ordinastie_> but the actual decomp/recomp shouldn't take much more time than doing the setup for a new version

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L367[07:00:23] <Hawaii_Beach> so should i override getBlockState or not?

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L369[07:01:08] <Ordinastie_> there is no getBlockState, but if you mean getDefaultState() yes

L370[07:01:57] <Hawaii_Beach> in the constructor right?

L371[07:02:19] <TechnicianLP> yeah overide the method in the constructor

L372[07:02:26] <Ordinastie_> you keep proving you don't really know what you're talking about

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L374[07:02:49] <Hawaii_Beach> there is no method named "getDefaultState()"

L375[07:03:09] <Ordinastie_> my bad, it's setDefaultState()

L376[07:03:18] <Ordinastie_> the one you were already overridign

L377[07:03:24] <Hawaii_Beach> a method right? doesn't exist either

L378[07:04:36] <Ordinastie_> well, they do exist

L379[07:04:42] <Ordinastie_> but yes, they're final

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L381[07:04:57] <Ordinastie_> you just need to call setDefaultState

L382[07:05:33] <Ordinastie_> you confused me with your "what IBlockState should i return?"

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L384[07:06:03] <Hawaii_Beach> and i got confused by "<TechnicianLP> yeah overide the method in the constructor"

L385[07:06:13] <Ordinastie_> that was sarcasme

L386[07:06:15] <Hawaii_Beach> so i searched for the method (NOT in my constructor)

L387[07:06:19] <Hawaii_Beach> yeah i know

L388[07:06:33] <Hawaii_Beach> you think i'm that cheap ha

L389[07:06:36] <Ordinastie_> because override method in constructor doesn't mean anything

L390[07:06:55] <Hawaii_Beach> exactly

L391[07:07:08] <Ordinastie_> but that's what you said

L392[07:07:59] <Curle> ordi: http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_13-07-48.png

L393[07:08:19] <Curle> it's happening.

L394[07:08:20] <Curle> :L

L395[07:08:43] <Ordinastie_> oh, so you were serious

L396[07:08:59] <Ordinastie_> I thought you were bullshitting all that time ><

L397[07:09:05] <Curle> :L

L398[07:09:21] <Curle> I've been making it, one vertex at a time

L399[07:09:22] <Curle> :L

L400[07:09:28] <Ordinastie_> (although, admit it, you just started, haven't you?)

L401[07:09:41] <Curle> i actually started just after I sent that pikachu pic

L402[07:09:51] <Curle> i was messing with the manipulation

L403[07:09:53] <Curle> :L

L404[07:11:15] <Curle> but it's been on-and-off, you know, with the issues with json i've been having

L405[07:13:01] <Curle> but I can actually put some effort into it now

L406[07:13:03] <Curle> :D

L407[07:13:30] <Ordinastie_> well, you have some time, I'm a bit stuck with my system :/

L408[07:13:41] <Curle> What's up?

L409[07:13:49] <Ordinastie_> it's complicated

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L414[07:18:54] <Curle> Hey Ord, do you have OCD?

L415[07:19:18] <Ordinastie_> not fully obsessive, but a bit

L416[07:19:41] <Ordinastie_> also "Ord" ?

L417[07:19:52] <Ordinastie_> that doesn't ping me either

L418[07:20:01] <Curle> I tried not to.

L419[07:20:02] <Curle> :L

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L423[07:34:56] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_13-34-49.png

L424[07:35:01] <Curle> There's the template

L425[07:35:03] <Curle> :L

L426[07:35:51] <Ordinastie_> I think the polys on each side are wrong

L427[07:36:00] <Curle> yeah, it's a work in progress

L428[07:36:00] <Curle> :L

L429[07:36:31] <Curle> Wrong how?

L430[07:36:42] <Ordinastie_> the vertexes don't look coplanar

L431[07:37:12] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_13-37-06.png

L432[07:37:14] <Curle> They are.

L433[07:37:16] <Ordinastie_> there should probably be an edge

L434[07:37:34] <Curle> It's a perfect square

L435[07:37:36] <Curle> 2x2 blocks

L436[07:37:41] <gigaherz> what's that meant to be?

L437[07:37:54] <Curle> the template for the door(s) i'm making for Ordie

L438[07:38:00] <Curle> (sorry, it's habit.)

L439[07:38:13] <Ordinastie_> Curle, I mean the polys on each side of the hole

L440[07:38:17] <Curle> Oh, right.

L441[07:38:51] <Curle> I'm modelling it to prevent texture overlap glitches in-game

L442[07:39:06] <Ordinastie_> wut ?

L443[07:39:28] <Curle> usually models I make have that strange texture thing where they blend in-game

L444[07:39:32] <Curle> i'm trying to prevent it :L

L445[07:39:42] <gigaherz> wut?

L446[07:39:44] <Curle> yes, it has happened in 1.10, so shush.

L447[07:39:49] <Ordinastie_> that's not a thing

L448[07:39:51] <gigaherz> but but

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L450[07:39:56] <gigaherz> mc draws without texture filtering

L451[07:39:59] <gigaherz> o_O

L452[07:40:13] <Ordinastie_> please don't try to prevent anything

L453[07:40:17] <Ordinastie_> just make sure your UVs are right

L454[07:40:28] <Curle> let me rephrase it, nothing works for me, so i'm working off that.

L455[07:40:29] <Curle> :L

L456[07:40:38] <gigaherz> I like to model on 16:1 units

L457[07:40:58] <gigaherz> so that I can then use cube mapping and the texture pixels match with polygon edges

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L459[07:41:16] <Ordinastie_> I just change the grid subdivision, easier

L460[07:41:22] <Ordinastie_> the numbers stay right

L461[07:41:44] <gigaherz> reminds me, I need to check if I can model at scale with my program

L462[07:41:55] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_13-41-49.png

L463[07:41:59] <Curle> this grid is ridiculous

L464[07:41:59] <gigaherz> oh and, I COULD certainly change the grid spacing

L465[07:42:06] <Curle> that black spot is the "door"

L466[07:42:21] <gigaherz> why's your grid so large?

L467[07:42:24] <gigaherz> can't you change it?

L468[07:42:46] <Ordinastie_> yesterday I watched a few blender vids, and I saw how you're supposed to make the textures ><

L469[07:43:08] <Ordinastie_> I assume you did it "wrong" too gigaherz :p

L470[07:43:20] <gigaherz> I don't use blender for it, it looked too complicated

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L472[07:44:00] <Curle> giga, it's wings, changing it requires 3.24 gigawatts

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L474[07:44:08] <Curle> of potato power

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L476[07:44:22] <Ordinastie_> thanks hexchat for crashing on me

L477[07:44:41] <Ordinastie_> anyway, the way you're supposed to do textures

L478[07:44:43] <Curle> all hail the potato powers that be

L479[07:44:50] <Ordinastie_> you make different materials for your model

L480[07:44:58] <Ordinastie_> apply them

L481[07:45:31] <Ordinastie_> then you unwrap your UVs and let blender actually build the texture from the UVs and the materials

L482[07:46:41] <Curle> Ordi, every vertex matches with it's opposites.

L483[07:46:51] <gigaherz> this is how I model, sorta

L484[07:46:52] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2016-08-21-1444-53.mp4

L485[07:46:56] <Ordinastie_> what does that even mean ?

L486[07:47:06] <Curle> it means everything is flat and even

L487[07:47:09] <gigaherz> although the video sucks

L488[07:47:09] <Curle> and easy to work with

L489[07:47:10] <Curle> :L

L490[07:47:18] <gigaherz> because you don't see all the "temporary lines" but yeah

L491[07:47:34] <gigaherz> crap it didn't capture the file browse window

L492[07:47:42] <Ordinastie_> OBS ?

L493[07:47:45] <gigaherz> yup

L494[07:47:51] <gigaherz> I'll have to use screen capture rather than window capture

L495[07:47:52] <Ordinastie_> yeah, you can't record that

L496[07:48:00] <Ordinastie_> unless that ^

L497[07:48:01] <gigaherz> oh I can, just not with window capture ;P

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L499[07:48:44] <Curle> christ on a bike

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L501[07:49:43] <MalkContent> hmmm

L502[07:49:50] <MalkContent> with the new universal bucket

L503[07:50:16] <MalkContent> is it possible to have items work as alternatives to, say, a filled waterbucket in recipes?

L504[07:50:36] <MalkContent> or would that already have worked with oredict

L505[07:50:41] <gigaherz> better: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2016-08-21-1449-17.mp4

L506[07:53:13] <Curle> god almighty my video player has shit buffering

L507[07:53:30] <MalkContent> or to have it more specified: immersive engineering has this jerry can, which can store liquids

L508[07:54:08] <MalkContent> and i was wondering if, when you put water in it, you could use it as a water bucket for crafting

L509[07:54:17] <gigaherz> not directly

L510[07:54:19] <gigaherz> not magically

L511[07:54:19] <MalkContent> thing is, it only affects the nbt of the item

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L513[07:54:34] <gigaherz> although if it's like a bucket

L514[07:54:35] <MalkContent> which is why i don't think oredict would work

L515[07:54:51] <gigaherz> and it has only "full" and "empty" states

L516[07:54:55] <gigaherz> and it claims to be a bucket of water

L517[07:54:57] <gigaherz> that may still work

L518[07:54:58] <gigaherz> but

L519[07:55:14] <MalkContent> i thought that'd work through containeritem

L520[07:55:17] <gigaherz> if you want to support partial containers and stuff like that, it would require more effort I think

L521[07:55:35] <gigaherz> don't quote me, though -- I have never used fluids ;P

L522[07:56:10] <gigaherz> Curle: but it's onlt 8mbps! ;P

L523[07:56:12] <gigaherz> only*

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L525[07:57:48] <Nepharius> Speaking of fluids: Is there some kind of raytrace that works for liquids?

L526[07:58:10] <MalkContent> yea me neither ^^

L527[07:58:18] <gigaherz> the raytrace function itself has a "ignore fluids" flag

L528[07:58:22] <MalkContent> basically don't know anything

L529[07:58:30] <gigaherz> IIRC

L530[07:58:39] <Nepharius> it does, but it doesn't work

L531[07:59:02] <Nepharius> it only ever returns something when there's a block somewhere behind

L532[07:59:18] <Nepharius> looking at a pond of water return nothing

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L535[08:08:27] <Curle> god damnit

L536[08:08:31] <Curle> all the uvs are wonky

L537[08:08:56] <Curle> teach me sensei

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L539[08:14:54] <MalkContent> heh. digged to bedrock. small cave there. o look. a dandelion on a piece of dirt

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L543[08:23:57] <Curle> digged?

L544[08:24:07] <Curle> dandelion?

L545[08:24:18] <Curle> i should make a wales mod

L546[08:24:19] <Curle> :L

L547[08:28:50] <Curle> daffodil all the way man

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L549[08:31:22] <Curle> malk: life finds a way :D

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L553[08:46:11] <Curle> tick

L554[08:46:12] <Curle> tock

L555[08:47:12] <Curle> tick

L556[08:47:15] <Curle> tock

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L570[09:21:34] <Curle> tick

L571[09:21:36] <Curle> tock

L572[09:22:02] <Curle> hello darkness my old friend

L573[09:22:11] <Curle> ive come to talk with you again

L574[09:22:18] <Curle> because a vision softly creeping

L575[09:22:26] <Curle> left its seeds while i was sleeping

L576[09:23:10] <Curle> and the vision that was planted in my brain

L577[09:23:18] <Curle> still remains within the sound

L578[09:23:19] <Curle> of silence

L579[09:24:32] <Curle> in restless dreams i walk alone

L580[09:24:40] <Curle> in narrow streets of cobblestone

L581[09:24:53] <Curle> underneath the halo of a lamp

L582[09:25:03] <Curle> i turn my collar to the cold nd damp

L583[09:25:22] <Curle> when my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a light

L584[09:25:31] <Curle> that split the night and touched

L585[09:25:35] <Curle> the sound of silence

L586[09:25:50] <Curle> i can keep singing all day guys

L587[09:25:50] <Curle> :L

L588[09:26:00] <TechnicianLP> umm

L589[09:26:24] * howtonotwin plays Baby as loud as possible into Curle's ears

L590[09:26:35] <Curle> Not this again

L591[09:27:13] * howtonotwin shakes his head and continues blasting hell music

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L593[09:27:39] <Curle> what have I done?

L594[09:28:01] <howtonotwin> you sang

L595[09:28:45] <Curle> yeah

L596[09:28:59] <Curle> it gets lonely in this channel sometimes

L597[09:29:01] <Curle> ;-;

L598[09:29:22] <sham1> It still does not give you the permission to sing

L599[09:29:36] <Curle> :(

L600[09:29:50] <fry> give me sooooomething to siiiing aboooooout

L601[09:30:10] <Curle> oppression

L602[09:30:11] <Curle> :L

L603[09:30:17] <sham1> yay, you're back

L604[09:30:18] * howtonotwin dares fry to sing Let it Go

L605[09:31:03] <Curle> oh god

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L617[09:43:28] <Neomex> hey, how does water work like in minecraft? im considering writing my own minecraft like game, i can handle mesh extraction and terrain generation, but was wondering about things like water or falling blocks (sand)

L618[09:44:39] <TechnicianLP> take a look at the code?

L619[09:45:09] <TechnicianLP> theres a hasgravity tag in blocks (no clue on fluids ...)

L620[09:45:34] <Ordinastie_> falling blocks just remove themselves and spawn an entity in their place

L621[09:45:57] <Ordinastie_> when entity reaches ground, it places the block again

L622[09:45:57] <howtonotwin> Other way around Ord :P

L623[09:46:11] <howtonotwin> The entity deletes the block :D

L624[09:46:48] <Ordinastie_> no it doesn't

L625[09:46:57] <RANKSHANK_mob1> Yeah it does

L626[09:47:03] <Ordinastie_> doesn't matter anyway

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L630[09:55:43] <Neomex> any clue about liquids? My guess would be to extract another separate surface from water voxel data

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L632[09:57:11] <BordListian> wut

L633[09:57:47] <TechnicianLP> take a look at the sourcecode

L634[10:00:36] <MalkContent> hrm

L635[10:00:39] <BordListian> any liquid block with meta n just checks for holes in a 5 block radius and spawns another liquid block with meta n-1 in the cardinal direction of the closest hole

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L637[10:01:30] <BordListian> it also reduces the meta of the current liquid block by 1 if there's no liquid with n+1 meta horizontally adjacent

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L639[10:01:45] <BordListian> something like that anyway

L640[10:07:04] <RANKSHANK_mob1> Remember when it used to spread everywhere? Pepridge farm remembers.

L641[10:08:28] <Curle> pepperidge?

L642[10:08:52] <Curle> Remember when redstone couldn't be used for logic? I remember.

L643[10:08:52] <Curle> :L

L644[10:09:32] <RANKSHANK_mob1> Duping items by being pushed through a portal while crafting :D

L645[10:09:41] <Curle> dear lord

L646[10:10:15] <Curle> duping items by having someone break a crafting table while you were crafting

L647[10:10:18] <Curle> that's a really old one

L648[10:10:32] <howtonotwin> But I have no friends so I can't do that :(

L649[10:10:33] <Curle> you drop the items and the window stayed open so you could take the items

L650[10:10:44] <Curle> i loved that dupe

L651[10:11:38] <Curle> anyone remember the flaming arrow turret?

L652[10:11:58] <Curle> a load of dispensers on a single tick redstone clock shooting arrows through lava

L653[10:12:22] <Curle> that was like the thing back in 2010/11

L654[10:14:03] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_16-13-56.png

L655[10:14:05] <Curle> this grid tho

L656[10:14:16] <BordListian> remember when disconnecting from the server deleted your inventory?

L657[10:14:33] <Curle> Remember when reconnecting sent you to spawn?

L658[10:15:02] <BordListian> tfw we should've just kept indev water

L659[10:15:04] <fry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc

L660[10:15:11] <BordListian> and indev gears instead of redstone

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L662[10:16:03] <howtonotwin> Why are we fanboying over indev when we can be fanboying over 1.9 boats?

L663[10:17:27] <Curle> because we're minecraft hipsters

L664[10:17:45] <Curle> 1.9 is too mainstream for this channel

L665[10:17:58] <howtonotwin> Remember when you could farm the ender dragon?

L666[10:18:07] <Curle> shh

L667[10:18:10] <Curle> is okey

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L670[10:18:37] <TechnicianLP> do i have to worry about attaching capabilities to fakeplayers?

L671[10:19:34] <Ordinastie_> well, that was a short rimworld game :x

L672[10:19:51] <Curle> let's play the pronoun game, ordi

L673[10:20:01] <Ordinastie_> 4 out of 6 collapse trying to beat out a fire

L674[10:20:20] <Ordinastie_> the two left got mauled by the cat going manhunter for some reason

L675[10:20:34] <Ordinastie_> Curle, let's not

L676[10:20:39] <howtonotwin> Is it still possible to farm the ender dragon? Or did the death reset get fixed?

L677[10:20:51] <Curle> You already started it, ordi.

L678[10:21:18] <Ordinastie_> howtonotwin, there is a way to make him respawn

L679[10:21:22] <Ordinastie_> like a legit way

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L681[10:21:34] <Curle> 1.9 has the ender crystals iirc

L682[10:21:54] <howtonotwin> Yes but it isn't the farm like before :P And 1.9 did support the farm.

L683[10:22:39] <TechnicianLP> ill take that as a no ...

L684[10:22:57] <gigaherz> howtonotwin: I saw the hermitcraft people dupe the dragon using end portal timing trick

L685[10:23:10] <gigaherz> where a dragon falling into an end portal will spawn both an item AND appear in the end

L686[10:23:13] <gigaherz> a dragon egg*

L687[10:23:17] <gigaherz> dunno if it still works in 1.10.x

L688[10:23:42] <MalkContent> hrm

L689[10:24:31] <howtonotwin> You could farm the DRAGON ITSELF for xp in 1.9 and older versions, but I'm wondering if the thing that made that happen got fixed in 1.9.4/1.10

L690[10:24:54] <gigaherz> so far as I know, you can respawn the dragon as many times as you want

L691[10:25:00] <gigaherz> but you only get an egg the first time

L692[10:25:28] <MalkContent> i thought you need the egg to respawn it

L693[10:25:35] <Curle> no, the crystals

L694[10:25:36] <Curle> :L

L695[10:25:59] <howtonotwin> There was a thing where if you unloaded the dragon while it was dying, it would come back to life and die again. So you could multiply this and kill it over and over again, each time getting some XP.

L696[10:26:14] <Curle> what happens if you kill the dragon without destroying any crystals, how do you spawn it then?

L697[10:26:17] <Curle> :L

L698[10:26:31] <howtonotwin> You make crystals with a crafting recipe

L699[10:26:36] <MalkContent> i havent fought the dragon since like. 1.2something

L700[10:26:37] <howtonotwin> The existing ones don't matter

L701[10:26:52] <MalkContent> o wait thats not true

L702[10:27:28] <MalkContent> actually did it once in 1.7.10, but i think the fight wasnt changed yet then

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L704[10:28:43] <Curle> no, 1.9 was the end update

L705[10:28:50] <Curle> new potion and arrows and shit

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L707[10:31:37] <MalkContent> you can't register a fluid container in a way that it uses getContainerItem(ItemStack) can you?

L708[10:31:54] <MalkContent> a right. those dragonsbreath potions

L709[10:32:39] <MalkContent> i wonder if there's vanilla minecrafters out there actually regularly getting those for pvp

L710[10:34:31] <MalkContent> a nvm. that's a thing now

L711[10:34:44] <MalkContent> only gotta find out when that changed :x

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L713[10:35:52] <MalkContent> nope. not a thing after all

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L715[10:37:18] <gigaherz> hah

L716[10:37:19] <gigaherz> https://bigmachine.io/imposter/

L717[10:37:31] <gigaherz> that'd be a handy thing to hand out in here ;p

L718[10:39:16] <Latvian|away> Im BACK

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L721[10:41:07] <edgarasf123> http://i.imgur.com/wpeUzAk.png Trying to render line from player to center of map, but the line only appears when using F3 and at specific angles, and its not pointing to correct to location :/

L722[10:41:08] <howtonotwin> GHz: Why not just use this https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ :P

L723[10:42:09] <gigaherz> howtonotwin: because a lot of people may even be proficent with Java itself

L724[10:42:16] <gigaherz> but still lack basic knowledge of programming concepts in general

L725[10:43:03] <howtonotwin> Well first, the coordinate system corresponds to the view. That means you also have to properly rotate the player's position to point at the origin.

L726[10:44:00] <edgarasf123> Hmm, ok. Is there any examples where it shows how to translate world coordinates to view coordinates?

L727[10:45:06] <howtonotwin> Perhaps try and see how ender crystals render their beams?

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L729[10:49:28] <Curle> you guys and your examples

L730[10:50:08] <Curle> latvian, i'm trying to do some stuffs in wings3d, like cutting a cube in half diagonally, any advice? :L

L731[10:50:28] <Curle> I've tessellated and triangulated the two faces

L732[10:50:50] <Curle> and i've tried just moving the offending corner to one of the sides but that messes up my uv

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L734[10:52:17] <Curle> would bevelling the edge work?

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L737[10:52:47] <Curle> o/ will

L738[10:52:51] <williewillus> heyo

L739[10:53:11] <Curle> Hell yeah, i'm in the money now

L740[10:53:12] <Curle> :D

L741[10:53:21] <williewillus> ?

L742[10:54:33] <Curle> i'm modelling

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L744[10:54:35] <Curle> :L

L745[10:54:48] <LatvianModder> You can cut in half, I just gotta remeber how

L746[10:55:10] <LatvianModder> I think I usually cut the 4 edges in half

L747[10:55:49] <LatvianModder> And there was "fill" (don remeber the name) option too for quads/triangles

L748[10:56:32] <howtonotwin> I did a google and maybe body plane cut?

L749[10:56:48] <Curle> that's vertically/horizontally

L750[10:56:53] <Curle> i specified horizontall

L751[10:57:01] <Curle> max bevel worked for me

L752[10:57:08] <Curle> diagonally*

L753[10:57:09] <Curle> damn

L754[10:57:23] <Curle> can't even prove my argument to myself

L755[10:57:33] <howtonotwin> Can you not specify a custom axis that bisects the cube?

L756[10:57:40] <LatvianModder> Somehing like Split too. I havent used that progran for a while now

L757[10:58:00] <LatvianModder> Its a very simple one, maybe you can

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L760[10:59:07] <Curle> and now i've screwed up the snapping

L761[11:00:12] <Curle> dat fit tho

L762[11:00:25] <MalkContent> blegh. i despise vanilla enchanting

L763[11:00:31] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_17-00-25.png

L764[11:00:33] <sham1> why

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L766[11:01:18] <MalkContent> incredibly random, very much to gain and lots of crap

L767[11:01:33] <MalkContent> but don't worry they overhauled it

L768[11:01:55] <raoulvdberge> What are the chances of Entity#getHorizontalFacing returning EnumFacing.DOWN?

L769[11:02:04] <MalkContent> now you can see if you get crap before you enchant and enchant something else instead

L770[11:02:05] <Curle> down isn't horizontal

L771[11:02:06] <Curle> :L

L772[11:02:26] <Curle> up and down are pitch, so 0

L773[11:02:40] <Curle> 1 in infinity

L774[11:02:44] <raoulvdberge> well someone reported a bug to me

L775[11:02:46] <raoulvdberge> and they got a down facing

L776[11:02:47] <raoulvdberge> lol

L777[11:03:01] <MalkContent> a well, buckle up and find something else that is worth enchanting

L778[11:03:17] <Curle> probably leather armor

L779[11:03:48] <MalkContent> o, nothing worthwhile for anything? spend 1 lvl and a lapis for a wooden sword to move the table forward for another chance

L780[11:04:13] <MalkContent> 3 hours later you finally got fortune 3 and 4 chests full of crap

L781[11:04:33] <Curle> anyone for the osmotic enchanter/

L782[11:04:35] <Curle> :L

L783[11:04:50] <Curle> all hail nekosune i guess

L784[11:05:22] <nekosune> o.o

L785[11:05:48] <Curle> dear lord, i had no idea you were here

L786[11:07:58] <Ordinastie_> Curle, I see you make progress :s

L787[11:08:05] <Curle> :L

L788[11:08:11] <Curle> that was the template.

L789[11:08:29] <Curle> Never know when i wanna make a door

L790[11:08:30] <Curle> eh?

L791[11:08:57] <Curle> Someone once said i was adoorable when i'm modelling

L792[11:09:10] <MalkContent> mhm. osmotic enchanter would be the way to go if i had tc on this

L793[11:09:58] <Curle> thaumic tinkerer

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L795[11:11:56] <MalkContent> i know. needs tc though :P

L796[11:12:47] <Curle> shh bby

L797[11:12:49] <Curle> is okey

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L802[11:23:40] <Curle> welp

L803[11:23:44] <Curle> i just crashed wings

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L808[11:30:56] <Curle> alright

L809[11:30:59] <Curle> what the hell

L810[11:31:04] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_17-30-52.png

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L812[11:31:19] <Curle> one of the edges separated into two and one is stealing the uv

L813[11:31:49] <Ordinastie_> stealing the uv ?

L814[11:32:05] <Curle> yeah.

L815[11:32:11] <Ordinastie_> what do you call uv ?

L816[11:32:14] <Curle> shush

L817[11:32:18] <Curle> texture coordinate

L818[11:32:32] <Curle> i swear to god, shush. :L

L819[11:32:33] <Ordinastie_> you realise there aren't any texture there ?

L820[11:32:39] <Curle> not in the viewer.

L821[11:32:44] <Curle> but it's transparent.

L822[11:33:09] <Curle> i can't fix it

L823[11:33:34] <Ordinastie_> do you meant the triangle where you can see through in your screen

L824[11:33:36] <Ordinastie_> ?

L825[11:33:59] <Curle> yeah.

L826[11:34:04] <Curle> on the left, the transparent area.

L827[11:34:22] <Curle> One of the edges is slightly smaller and the larger one is warping it

L828[11:35:05] <Ordinastie_> it's not about UVs, it's just the face that is smaller

L829[11:35:31] <Curle> Actually, the face is smaller because one of the edges separated

L830[11:35:44] <Ordinastie_> yes

L831[11:35:49] <Curle> you can see the one belonging to the tilted square

L832[11:35:55] <Curle> that should be shared with the edge

L833[11:36:07] <Curle> of the inside

L834[11:36:16] <Curle> i fixed it

L835[11:36:22] <Curle> but it's strange nonetheless

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L837[11:37:05] <howtonotwin> Edge AND Firefox at the same time? What are you doing? o_O

L838[11:37:15] <Curle> u wat

L839[11:37:50] <williewillus> wat is that bar at the top?

L840[11:37:53] <howtonotwin> <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_17-30-52.png

L841[11:37:54] <Curle> wat bar

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L843[11:38:14] <Curle> oh, the one with the aperture logo?

L844[11:38:17] <Curle> that's Rainmeter

L845[11:38:19] <williewillus> yeah

L846[11:38:22] <williewillus> oh lol

L847[11:38:29] <Curle> it's like a utility shorcut bar

L848[11:38:32] <Curle> amazing

L849[11:38:48] <Curle> also, howto, Jenkins only works with Edge for me

L850[11:38:49] <Curle> :L

L851[11:38:59] <Curle> but Firefox is faster

L852[11:39:01] <Curle> rip

L853[11:39:05] <Curle> yes, firefox is updated.

L854[11:39:07] <Curle> it's a mystery.

L855[11:39:24] <howtonotwin> aha!

L856[11:39:57] *** Mine|dreamland is now known as minecreatr

L857[11:40:22] <OrionOnline> Hey guys i have a question for the redering specialists under us

L858[11:40:26] <williewillus> ff honestly has sucked for a while :P

L859[11:40:28] <williewillus> imo

L860[11:40:46] <OrionOnline> I am working on rendering an ItemModel (so baked one) as a piece of a Armor

L861[11:40:48] <OrionOnline> http://i.imgur.com/YiNiywz.png

L862[11:41:00] <OrionOnline> If you look carefully on the model that is used on the player

L863[11:41:03] <Curle> Oh hey, it's you again.

L864[11:41:04] <OrionOnline> (not the on in the hand)

L865[11:41:16] <williewillus> yeah

L866[11:41:16] <Curle> Show us the god damned top. Last pic you were looking forward.

L867[11:41:26] <williewillus> well look at the picture

L868[11:41:27] <williewillus> i see the top

L869[11:41:28] <williewillus> :P

L870[11:41:41] <Curle> also, that's one big model

L871[11:41:41] <OrionOnline> you see it turns white/grey under certain angles

L872[11:41:48] <OrionOnline> Is there a way to prevent this?

L873[11:41:52] <williewillus> well I don't see it

L874[11:41:56] <williewillus> gif would help

L875[11:41:57] <Curle> On the side

L876[11:42:07] <Curle> it looks like chainmail on the right side

L877[11:42:39] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_17-42-36.png

L878[11:43:12] <OrionOnline> Very much true Curle

L879[11:43:22] <OrionOnline> The model data tells it that it should be purple there#

L880[11:43:26] <OrionOnline> Just like on the top

L881[11:43:29] <williewillus> what size is that side cube/texture?

L882[11:43:35] <OrionOnline> Debugging show the data being purple

L883[11:43:39] <williewillus> and do you have mipmapping on

L884[11:43:46] <williewillus> (i'm just guessing here lol)

L885[11:43:47] <Curle> looks like a vbo thing to me

L886[11:43:55] <williewillus> how is that a vbo thing? :P

L887[11:44:12] <Curle> i remember having an issue like this in my gl game

L888[11:44:15] <OrionOnline> williewillus, one sixteened of a block

L889[11:44:22] <williewillus> OrionOnline: i mean the whole thing

L890[11:44:22] <Curle> so a pixel?

L891[11:44:29] <williewillus> and play with your mipmap settings

L892[11:44:33] <OrionOnline> 16x16

L893[11:45:10] <Curle> wait, that side is 16^?

L894[11:45:15] <Curle> christ on a bike

L895[11:45:27] <williewillus> what did you think it was? 0.o

L896[11:45:34] <Curle> not that!

L897[11:45:35] <Curle> :L

L898[11:45:53] <OrionOnline> Curle, minecraft is 16x16 default

L899[11:46:04] <Curle> yeah.

L900[11:46:06] <OrionOnline> So most if my textures are 16x16 defaulted

L901[11:46:27] <Curle> hold on, i just got confused between armor wrapping and items

L902[11:46:28] <Curle> :L

L903[11:46:44] <OrionOnline> Curle

L904[11:46:53] <OrionOnline> This is an ItemModel rendered as an Armor

L905[11:47:04] <OrionOnline> So the models just performs some translations and then calls render model

L906[11:47:06] <OrionOnline> for a Item

L907[11:47:14] <williewillus> what is an "ItemModel"?

L908[11:47:22] <OrionOnline> A baked one

L909[11:47:27] <OrionOnline> The standard from vanilla

L910[11:47:39] <OrionOnline> Using json stuff

L911[11:47:43] <williewillus> wait so are rendering this yourself?

L912[11:47:46] <williewillus> why?

L913[11:47:47] <OrionOnline> Yes

L914[11:47:51] <OrionOnline> Is there a easier way?

L915[11:47:55] <Curle> yeah.

L916[11:48:10] <OrionOnline> Disabling mipmapping fixes the problem btw

L917[11:48:11] <Curle> willie, carry on.

L918[11:48:11] <Curle> :L

L919[11:48:13] <williewillus> vanilla's already has a layer renderer that renders it as is

L920[11:48:17] <williewillus> lemme confirm

L921[11:48:26] <OrionOnline> Is there a way i can activate taht?

L922[11:48:39] <Curle> it wouldn't be there if there wasn't :L

L923[11:49:14] <williewillus> yeah LayerCustomhead simply renders anything that isn't armor directly

L924[11:49:43] <OrionOnline> williewillus, would that also do body parts?

L925[11:49:45] <OrionOnline> Or just head?

L926[11:49:48] <williewillus> what do you mean

L927[11:49:54] <williewillus> you're trying to render this item on the head

L928[11:49:58] <williewillus> and I'm saying vanilla already does that

L929[11:49:58] <OrionOnline> Yeah

L930[11:50:04] <OrionOnline> But it is part of a suit

L931[11:50:08] <Curle> -.-

L932[11:50:13] <williewillus> ...??

L933[11:50:18] <williewillus> how does that matter right now?

L934[11:50:18] <Curle> the armor renderer works in 2 parts

L935[11:50:28] <Curle> helmet, chestplate and boots

L936[11:50:30] <Curle> and leggings

L937[11:50:33] <Curle> afaik

L938[11:50:37] <williewillus> wat

L939[11:50:39] <williewillus> thats unrelated

L940[11:50:44] <Curle> its not

L941[11:50:53] <Curle> you can't have a part rendered

L942[11:50:53] <williewillus> look at LayerCustomHead

L943[11:50:59] <williewillus> yes but that's for MODELBASE armor

L944[11:51:02] <williewillus> this is just a baked model

L945[11:51:04] <Curle> o shit son

L946[11:51:10] <Curle> calm down :L

L947[11:51:19] <williewillus> not uncalm :P

L948[11:51:25] <Curle> Yeah, heads are getting confusing right now

L949[11:51:27] <Curle> :L

L950[11:51:53] <williewillus> point is that you shouldn't have had to render it yourself, something in vanilla already does it for you :P

L951[11:53:29] <Curle> what he said. :L

L952[11:53:34] <OrionOnline> williewillus, that class only renders stuff that is in the Head Slot though

L953[11:53:37] <OrionOnline> correct?

L954[11:53:46] <williewillus> yes...and your armor is in the head slot

L955[11:53:50] <OrionOnline> currently

L956[11:53:54] <Curle> like i said, there's a separate armor renderer for a full suit

L957[11:53:58] <OrionOnline> i have a chestplate of the same type

L958[11:54:05] <Curle> then use the armor renderer

L959[11:54:05] <OrionOnline> Curle were?

L960[11:54:06] <Curle> -.-

L961[11:54:13] <Curle> willie pls

L962[11:54:23] <Curle> I have no idea what it's called in 1.8+

L963[11:54:24] <Curle> :L

L964[11:54:30] <OrionOnline> Curle, it is oke

L965[11:54:39] <Curle> i'm a 1.7.10 modder

L966[11:54:42] <williewillus> i still don't understand what the problem is :P

L967[11:54:52] <Curle> he's using the head renderer for traditional armor

L968[11:55:04] <Curle> the itemmodel is for a fancy 3d model

L969[11:55:09] <Curle> he just wants armor

L970[11:55:22] <williewillus> so you want the baked model to NOT render on the head? :P

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L972[11:55:36] <Curle> yeah, he wants the model to not render, and the armor to render

L973[11:55:48] <Curle> that's what he's asking

L974[11:55:57] <Curle> in a way i can understand apparently

L975[11:56:00] <Curle> :L

L976[11:56:01] <williewillus> that point wasn't communicated at all from the past 10 minutes of discussion lol

L977[11:56:09] <Curle> ignore the model, just the armor

L978[11:56:12] <Curle> he wants armor

L979[11:56:13] <Curle> :L

L980[11:56:19] <OrionOnline> No curle

L981[11:56:27] <Curle> you want the helmet to render

L982[11:56:31] <Curle> and you have a chestplate

L983[11:56:32] <OrionOnline> What i want is to render an IBakedModel as a piece of Armor

L984[11:56:38] <Curle> Why?

L985[11:56:39] <williewillus> and I'm saying in head position

L986[11:56:42] <williewillus> vanilla does it for you

L987[11:56:42] <OrionOnline> But without mipmapping

L988[11:56:50] <OrionOnline> williewillus, yeah i know now

L989[11:56:52] <williewillus> you can't do that, mipping is a global thing

L990[11:56:57] <OrionOnline> But the mipmapping problem still exists

L991[11:57:05] <Curle> Can't you have the iBakedModel based off the armor instead of rendering the item itself on your head?

L992[11:57:13] <williewillus> wat

L993[11:57:14] <Curle> the item seems really inefficient

L994[11:57:17] <williewillus> does that even mean

L995[11:57:21] <williewillus> what?

L996[11:57:32] <Curle> he's rendering the item itself on his head.

L997[11:57:35] <Curle> not armor, the item.

L998[11:57:38] <williewillus> yes and vanilla does that?

L999[11:57:50] <Curle> last time i checked vanilla armor items weren't massive

L1000[11:57:52] <gigaherz> vanilla uses a ModelBase-based model for armor

L1001[11:58:01] <williewillus> pumpkins don't

L1002[11:58:10] <gigaherz> but when you equip a BLOCK

L1003[11:58:10] <williewillus> that's what's rendering your thing right now, same thing that does pumpkins

L1004[11:58:13] <gigaherz> it will draw the block

L1005[11:58:14] <williewillus> not a block

L1006[11:58:16] <williewillus> any non-armor item

L1007[11:58:20] <gigaherz> well

L1008[11:58:27] <gigaherz> can you even equip a non-block item?

L1009[11:58:32] <williewillus> with /replaceitem you can

L1010[11:58:39] <gigaherz> ah I thought it only worked for blocks

L1011[11:58:54] <gigaherz> mistaken assumption, I guess

L1012[11:58:55] <williewillus> either way make clear what you want to happen :P

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L1014[11:58:58] <williewillus> orion

L1015[11:59:08] <Curle> alright

L1016[11:59:08] <OrionOnline> williewillus, how do i tell it to use that layer?

L1017[11:59:13] <williewillus> wat

L1018[11:59:25] <williewillus> use what layer what

L1019[11:59:33] <Curle> i'm just gonna say, you can't render your chestplate from the item

L1020[11:59:39] <Curle> the head has a separate thing

L1021[11:59:44] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: we don't knwo what you are looking at

L1022[11:59:45] <williewillus> yes

L1023[11:59:47] <gigaherz> explain, from the beginning

L1024[11:59:52] <gigaherz> what EXACTLY do you have

L1025[11:59:52] <OrionOnline> How do i tell it to use the LayerCustomHead instead of the default LayerArmor?

L1026[11:59:56] <gigaherz> and what EXACTLY do you need to happen

L1027[11:59:57] <williewillus> you don't

L1028[12:00:00] <williewillus> LayerCustomHead always runs

L1029[12:00:00] <OrionOnline> Or does it do that automatically?

L1030[12:00:06] <williewillus> and it only runs for the head slot

L1031[12:00:09] <williewillus> and only for non armor items

L1032[12:00:10] <gigaherz> that's something any player has

L1033[12:00:13] <OrionOnline> Okey

L1034[12:00:16] <Curle> hang on

L1035[12:00:17] <OrionOnline> That is good to know

L1036[12:00:20] <gigaherz> it only activates when a non-armor item is placed on the slot

L1037[12:00:22] <OrionOnline> Can i register my own layers?

L1038[12:00:25] <williewillus> yes

L1039[12:00:25] <gigaherz> yes

L1040[12:00:35] <Curle> if you're using layercustomhead with armor

L1041[12:00:39] <Curle> ...

L1042[12:00:41] <Curle> i can't even

L1043[12:00:44] <williewillus> wat

L1044[12:00:50] <Curle> but..

L1045[12:00:50] <williewillus> the solution is obvious :P

L1046[12:00:51] <OrionOnline> Can i deactivate a certain layer for a specific piece of Armor?

L1047[12:00:52] <Curle> hang on

L1048[12:00:58] <williewillus> let the vanilla layer take care of the head

L1049[12:01:02] <williewillus> and add your own to do the other three

L1050[12:01:09] <OrionOnline> williewillus, yep that is what i was planning

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L1052[12:01:20] <OrionOnline> I just need a way to not make it render with the normal model

L1053[12:01:25] <Curle> i'm not even gonna try to comprehend

L1054[12:01:32] <williewillus> you mean the modelbase?

L1055[12:02:09] <OrionOnline> yes

L1056[12:02:23] <Curle> so this armor is going to be purely cosmetic

L1057[12:02:27] <williewillus> hm

L1058[12:02:35] <Curle> it's just a renderer

L1059[12:02:37] <OrionOnline> I bassicly want it to skip the LayerArmor<t extends ModelBase> phase

L1060[12:02:38] <Curle> and not armor items

L1061[12:02:42] <OrionOnline> Curle, currect

L1062[12:02:51] <williewillus> you could return an empty ModelBase

L1063[12:02:52] <Curle> why, exactly?

L1064[12:02:55] <OrionOnline> Until know i had flat (like paper flat) armor

L1065[12:03:04] <williewillus> from Item.getArmorModel

L1066[12:03:05] <Curle> as it is

L1067[12:03:12] <OrionOnline> williewillus, okey

L1068[12:03:33] <williewillus> it should be fast enough (tm), and it's the simplest solution

L1069[12:03:41] <OrionOnline> Yeah

L1070[12:03:44] <williewillus> thats assuming your armor is not itemarmor

L1071[12:03:46] <williewillus> *is

L1072[12:03:51] <OrionOnline> It is

L1073[12:03:57] <williewillus> is your helmet?

L1074[12:04:19] <williewillus> if so the vanilla LayerCustomHead won't activate for it

L1075[12:04:24] <williewillus> so your custom layer will have to do all 4

L1076[12:04:32] <OrionOnline> I would need a layer for that too

L1077[12:04:34] <OrionOnline> I know

L1078[12:04:38] <OrionOnline> Was planning for it

L1079[12:04:39] <williewillus> just put them all in the same one :P

L1080[12:04:43] <OrionOnline> Yeah

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L1082[12:05:26] <williewillus> yay problem solved. but the mipping problem i don't know. you can't do it on a case by case basis because the entire atlas is mipped

L1083[12:05:48] <gigaherz> wtf is the mipmapping problem?

L1084[12:06:04] <gigaherz> (I know what mipmapping is, that's why it confuses me)

L1085[12:06:12] <williewillus> you probably know more about it

L1086[12:06:21] <williewillus> but his baked model is gray when viewed at a narrow angle

L1087[12:06:37] <gigaherz> is it a checkerboard?

L1088[12:06:41] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, yes

L1089[12:06:42] <williewillus> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_17-42-36.png

L1090[12:06:46] <gigaherz> then it's working as intended

L1091[12:06:48] <gigaherz> gotta live with it

L1092[12:06:52] <OrionOnline> It is 3d Chain mail

L1093[12:06:55] <OrionOnline> Okey thanks

L1094[12:07:00] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, what causes it?

L1095[12:07:04] <gigaherz> that's the alpha values

L1096[12:07:11] <gigaherz> when seen at an angle

L1097[12:07:29] <gigaherz> probably

L1098[12:07:32] <OrionOnline> Why would it show the alpha values at a steep angle?

L1099[12:07:40] <gigaherz> hmm actually

L1100[12:07:43] <gigaherz> how's the model made?

L1101[12:07:50] <OrionOnline> Baked like any other ItemModel

L1102[12:07:51] <gigaherz> is it actual little cubes?

L1103[12:08:03] <gigaherz> no I mean what it's made of

L1104[12:08:10] <OrionOnline> It is generated from a texture like a sword or an axe would

L1105[12:08:14] <gigaherz> okay so

L1106[12:08:17] <OrionOnline> so yeah little cubes are created

L1107[12:08:22] <gigaherz> it's a bunch of builtin/generated

L1108[12:08:28] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, correct

L1109[12:08:32] <gigaherz> yah then there aren't "little cubes" at all

L1110[12:08:35] <gigaherz> what minecraft does

L1111[12:08:40] <gigaherz> it put a flat texture on each side

L1112[12:08:46] <gigaherz> and only generates the visible edges

L1113[12:08:50] <gigaherz> so

L1114[12:08:56] <gigaherz> what you see transparent

L1115[12:09:04] <gigaherz> is really still covered -- by transparent pixels

L1116[12:09:10] <OrionOnline> ahhhh

L1117[12:09:17] <gigaherz> so when you look at a steep enough angle

L1118[12:09:18] <OrionOnline> That also explains the white thenm

L1119[12:09:37] <gigaherz> the gpu sometimes doesn't interpolate any transparent pixels in those regions

L1120[12:09:54] <OrionOnline> Is there way to prevent it from doing that (should i even attempt that?)

L1121[12:09:58] <gigaherz> it will draw the color but the alpha value won't be small enough to be alpha-tested away

L1122[12:10:02] <gigaherz> no

L1123[12:10:11] <gigaherz> your only solution would be to actually generate a model with each little cube one by one

L1124[12:10:50] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, that would probably be a lot of vertexes though....

L1125[12:11:01] <gigaherz> well given that it's a checkerboard already

L1126[12:11:04] <gigaherz> only a few more than it has now ;P

L1127[12:11:11] <OrionOnline> I could however attempt it

L1128[12:11:31] <OrionOnline> I have a week off next week

L1129[12:11:43] <gigaherz> also, you could have it as an actual armor model using the normal modelbase crap

L1130[12:11:48] <OrionOnline> It would be a nice challenge to write somethign like that

L1131[12:11:55] <gigaherz> but ewh.

L1132[12:12:09] <williewillus> i wish they'd get on with getting rid of modelbase

L1133[12:12:17] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, i have it as a normal model now, but is flat as paper

L1134[12:12:20] <williewillus> and getting sane entity models (PE's look awesome)

L1135[12:12:31] <gigaherz> I wish they'd transition to a hybrid approach, that loads ModelBase from json

L1136[12:12:31] <gigaherz> ;P

L1137[12:12:33] <OrionOnline> Which just looks wrong...

L1138[12:12:34] <williewillus> PE entity models are in json

L1139[12:12:45] <gigaherz> and bakes it like they bake the other models

L1140[12:12:55] <williewillus> with full declaration of what the skeleton is, etc.

L1141[12:13:00] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: no not normal

L1142[12:13:08] <gigaherz> using Item#getArmorModel

L1143[12:13:15] <gigaherz> and returning a custom armor model

L1144[12:13:15] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, yeah

L1145[12:13:20] <gigaherz> where the head has a lot of little boxes

L1146[12:13:28] <OrionOnline> It returns a modified version of the default

L1147[12:13:33] <OrionOnline> I could do that too

L1148[12:13:43] <gigaherz> rather than the dfefault one-big-box version

L1149[12:13:47] <gigaherz> or

L1150[12:13:49] <gigaherz> maybe the best

L1151[12:13:57] <gigaherz> if you can make that model as a .obj model or .json or whatever

L1152[12:14:05] <gigaherz> you could load it from your ModelRenderer

L1153[12:14:09] <gigaherz> and override the draw code

L1154[12:14:12] <gigaherz> to draw the IBakedModel ;p

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L1157[12:15:31] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, that is how it is rendered now

L1158[12:15:59] <OrionOnline> But the ItemModel still has the transparency issue

L1159[12:16:31] <gigaherz> yeah it's going to be painful, but if it bothers you, you'll have to do the separate cubes ;P

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L1161[12:16:55] <OrionOnline> :P

L1162[12:17:17] <gigaherz> for reference I can easily do that in my modelling program in just a couple minutes ;P

L1163[12:17:27] <gigaherz> and export to .obj ;P

L1164[12:17:50] <Ordinastie_> you konw, if you really want to model...

L1165[12:17:58] <gigaherz> XD

L1166[12:18:10] <gigaherz> nah I'm playing wow right now, but maybe later ;P

L1167[12:18:26] <gigaherz> if it's not an organic shape -- I can't do organic ;P

L1168[12:19:35] <Ordinastie_> as long as it can be something you can open, you can do whatever you want :p

L1169[12:20:14] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, it is currently generated from a texture

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L1171[12:33:37] <Curle> hooray

L1172[12:33:40] <Curle> normal uv maps

L1173[12:36:45] <LatvianModder> in W3D?

L1174[12:36:52] <LatvianModder> like, alighed to grid? or what you call normal?

L1175[12:37:24] <Curle> normal as in, straight

L1176[12:37:25] <Curle> :L

L1177[12:37:29] <Curle> and even

L1178[12:37:57] <Curle> i literally made a cube, immediately went to uv map it and it came up as a rhombus

L1179[12:37:58] <Curle> -.-

L1180[12:38:44] <BordListian> uv mapping is funny

L1181[12:39:32] <Curle> yeah

L1182[12:39:46] <Curle> Lat, how do you export the texture generated from the uv mapping window?

L1183[12:39:59] <Curle> :L

L1184[12:40:31] <LatvianModder> something something External

L1185[12:40:55] <Curle> something something u wat m8

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L1188[12:41:07] <LatvianModder> how did you align it to grid?

L1189[12:41:11] <Curle> yeah.

L1190[12:41:13] <BordListian> he's saying to get a cheeky nando

L1191[12:41:31] <Curle> are you legitimately british?

L1192[12:41:48] <Curle> christ on a bike

L1193[12:42:12] <BordListian> wut

L1194[12:42:13] <LatvianModder> err

L1195[12:42:25] <Curle> but yeah, External?

L1196[12:42:29] <Curle> i'll have a goosey

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L1198[12:42:52] <Curle> Bord: I can import a Nendo if that's alright :L

L1199[12:43:11] <BordListian> mfw i'm not even british

L1200[12:43:17] <Curle> yeah.

L1201[12:43:18] <BordListian> mfw you're just going with it

L1202[12:43:34] <Curle> um

L1203[12:44:15] <Curle> "the performance of wings is dependant on many things, such as: - the phase of the moon"

L1204[12:44:17] <BordListian> i like how one interjection is enough to thoroughly confuse everybody

L1205[12:44:17] <Curle> damn right

L1206[12:45:04] <BordListian> the performance of wings is dependant on the distance between earth and moon

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L1208[12:45:22] <BordListian> and the number of things we sent into space

L1209[12:45:56] <Curle> so if i fire a tennis ball into LEO, will Wings go faster?

L1210[12:46:10] <BordListian> maybe

L1211[12:46:17] <Curle> poor Leo

L1212[12:46:18] <Curle> :L

L1213[12:46:49] <Curle> i meant Low Earth Orbit, for anyone actually called Leo

L1214[12:46:49] <Curle> :L

L1215[12:47:06] <BordListian> we were somehow aware

L1216[12:48:04] <Curle> i wasn't

L1217[12:48:05] <Curle> :L

L1218[12:48:21] <Curle> i need to cut down on my :Ls

L1219[12:48:21] <Curle> :L

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L1221[12:50:42] <Curle> Outliner > Make External

L1222[12:50:45] <Curle> Thanks Lat :D

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L1224[12:55:46] <LatvianModder> told ya

L1225[12:56:37] <Curle> i love me some cryptic shit

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L1227[12:57:21] <IoP> !gm func_180661_e

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L1235[13:03:14] <Curle> http://www.anter-gerang.org/p/2016-08-21_19-03-06.png

L1236[13:03:20] <Curle> it's not my best but it gets the job done

L1237[13:03:20] <Curle> :L

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L1240[13:08:03] <Curle> mfw Windows Media Player starts playing my playlist for no reason

L1241[13:08:03] <Curle> http://i.memeful.com/media/post/BRkj4jM_700wa_0.gif

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L1249[13:32:24] <Curle> Oh hey, i fixed my issues with rendering

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L1251[13:32:43] <Curle> it turns out my JSONS were fine, I just didn't call initModels() :L

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L1257[13:45:30] <gigaherz> did the smelting time stuff ever make it into forge?

L1258[13:45:56] <gigaherz> apparently not

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L1265[14:08:01] <madcrazydrumma> Hey guys! So I've got my capability working and its storing stuff as it should. However, when I try to display it on my RenderGameOverlayEvent it constantly says its 0, whereas in my print statements it says it increments as it should

L1266[14:08:17] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> client vs server?

L1267[14:08:31] <madcrazydrumma> what do you mean?

L1268[14:09:43] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> overlay rendering is on the client

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L1271[14:11:37] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: there's usually two copies of anything

L1272[14:11:40] <gigaherz> one on the client thread

L1273[14:11:43] <gigaherz> and one on the server thread

L1274[14:11:45] <gigaherz> even in singleplayer

L1275[14:11:55] <gigaherz> with capabilities, you'll have to synchronize them

L1276[14:12:27] <madcrazydrumma> oh

L1277[14:12:34] <madcrazydrumma> How can I sync them then?

L1278[14:12:55] <madcrazydrumma> Like im guessing the caps are stored on the server for each player?

L1279[14:15:04] <LatvianModder> is it item capability or tileentity or smth else?

L1280[14:15:41] <LatvianModder> because tile entities are the easiest ones from all

L1281[14:16:31] <madcrazydrumma> player capability

L1282[14:17:40] <tterrag> when I was using an IEEP for that I had to use these 4 events https://github.com/tterrag1098/PotionAPI/blob/master/src/main/java/tterrag/potionapi/api/effect/EffectUtil.java#L179-L204

L1283[14:17:42] <tterrag> I assume caps are the same

L1284[14:17:42] <LatvianModder> then you probably need to send a message

L1285[14:18:09] <LatvianModder> dont you also need to have Clone event now?

L1286[14:19:10] <TechnicianLP> http://hastebin.com/ivecumadis.coffee is this code ok for attaching a cap to player? (looks weird to me)

L1287[14:19:21] <tterrag> fairly sure cloning would still fire spawn event

L1288[14:19:24] <tterrag> but maybe not

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L1290[14:19:35] <tterrag> it worked fire in 1.7...it could have changed

L1291[14:19:37] <tterrag> fine*

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L1293[14:20:13] <howtonotwin> You have to handle Clone events to copy caps across deaths.

L1294[14:20:20] <tterrag> oh, well yeah

L1295[14:20:26] <tterrag> this was for potions, so no carrying across death

L1296[14:20:32] <tterrag> so I didn't worry about that

L1297[14:21:09] <tterrag> !gm func_189509_E

L1298[14:24:24] <tterrag> why is it possible for DrawBlockHighlightEvent to have a null pos?

L1299[14:24:26] <tterrag> what the hell?

L1300[14:24:34] <tterrag> https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/issues/214

L1301[14:26:20] <madcrazydrumma> Ill figure it out tomorrow, cant be bothered right now, watching the lcs haha

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L1303[14:29:36] <gigaherz> back

L1304[14:30:16] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: if only the player itself needs it, you can just send a message to the player itself

L1305[14:30:26] <gigaherz> if you need others to also have the info, then there's events for that too

L1306[14:31:16] <gigaherz> http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/datastorage/extendedentityproperties/#synchronizing-data-with-clients

L1307[14:31:20] <gigaherz> there's a rough overview here

L1308[14:31:49] <gigaherz> it's on the IEEP page, but it applies to capabilities too

L1309[14:32:26] <madcrazydrumma> nah i just need the individual players to interact with their own gold

L1310[14:32:42] <madcrazydrumma> Because they will only interact with shops and stuff to purchase for their own use, not affecting stock levels or anything for other players

L1311[14:33:52] <gigaherz> yep then just send them a packet whenever the value changes

L1312[14:36:07] <madcrazydrumma> okay ill sort it tomorrow :P cbf tonight; might fix up my skill system tonight if i can be arsed

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L1323[15:02:04] <Curle> it would be so helpful if someone made the chunk generation easier to understand

L1324[15:02:36] <Curle> i mean, i'm good at maths, and that shit just makes me go http://i.memeful.com/media/post/PM0aaRL_700wa_0.gif

L1325[15:02:46] <gigaherz> you mean the terrain?

L1326[15:02:53] <Curle> yeah

L1327[15:03:05] <gigaherz> there's a certain formula

L1328[15:03:10] <gigaherz> that generates random values

L1329[15:03:15] <gigaherz> pseudo-random*

L1330[15:03:25] <gigaherz> if you apply it to decimals

L1331[15:03:26] <gigaherz> like

L1332[15:03:35] <gigaherz> it takes 100 blocks to go from 0 to 1

L1333[15:03:43] <gigaherz> you cna get a rough "heightmap"

L1334[15:03:52] <gigaherz> but it would be very smooth

L1335[15:03:58] <gigaherz> so you apply some more "octaves" of it

L1336[15:04:07] <gigaherz> so that you get different levels of detail

L1337[15:04:18] <gigaherz> generating some semi-smooth semi-random terrain

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L1339[15:04:28] <gigaherz> xcept--- it's in 3D

L1340[15:04:45] <gigaherz> with the probability of a block being solid much higher the lower you go

L1341[15:05:16] <gigaherz> the sharper this change, the less "ridgey" the terrain

L1342[15:05:30] <gigaherz> ...

L1343[15:05:37] <gigaherz> it's more complicated than that

L1344[15:05:52] <gigaherz> but that should at least serve as a way to understand the concept

L1345[15:07:57] <howtonotwin> It's mostly Perlin noise iirc

L1346[15:09:22] <LexDesktop> Essentially, its just a bunch of random noise, not sure what part in particular he is wanting to understand...

L1347[15:10:23] <Curle> -.-

L1348[15:10:24] <Curle> :L

L1349[15:10:27] <howtonotwin> Here's the core algorithm. Pretty sure MC modifies it a bit but you have to start somewhere http://flafla2.github.io/2014/08/09/perlinnoise.html

L1350[15:11:43] <Curle> yeah, that's gonna be helpful

L1351[15:11:44] <Curle> :L

L1352[15:11:52] <Curle> also hai lex

L1353[15:12:28] <tterrag> lex, do you know why 1.10.2 mcp caches have a 1.9.4 and 1.10.2 folder in them? http://i.imgur.com/egTUqBF.png

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L1355[15:13:09] <LexDesktop> because abrar was a fucking moron

L1356[15:13:21] <tterrag> ok....more detail?

L1357[15:13:32] <LexDesktop> and making srg files from the mc version in a non version specific folder

L1358[15:13:34] <LexDesktop> so i changed it

L1359[15:13:48] <tterrag> err

L1360[15:13:59] <tterrag> I thought mappings were already version specific

L1361[15:14:04] <LexDesktop> no

L1362[15:14:12] <tterrag> mcpbot seems to think so

L1363[15:14:14] <LexDesktop> you can use any mapping on any version

L1364[15:14:18] <LexDesktop> it may not WORK

L1365[15:14:21] <LexDesktop> but you can

L1366[15:14:22] <tterrag> well yeah, but they were obviously designed around X version

L1367[15:14:41] <gigaherz> howtonotwin: there's a faster algorithm than perlin noise, called "simplex noise", which gives similar results if you apply it in the same way you'd apply perlin

L1368[15:15:21] <Curle> sweet

L1369[15:16:52] <JoltEffect> Hey guys, released my mod, just want to say many thanks for the help over past 2 week, my nephews love it :)

L1370[15:17:07] <gigaherz> :)

L1371[15:17:10] <gigaherz> link?

L1372[15:17:21] <JoltEffect> https://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/250113-tesla-modular-solars

L1373[15:18:04] <gigaherz> lol on top of end rods

L1374[15:18:25] <gigaherz> JoltEffect: tell the tesla fan club on twitter?

L1375[15:18:25] <gigaherz> ;P

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L1377[15:18:47] <JoltEffect> didnt know one existed :)

L1378[15:18:54] <gigaherz> https://twitter.com/TeslaApiFanClub

L1379[15:20:04] <Curle> I'll try it out for ya, jolt.

L1380[15:20:05] <Curle> :D

L1381[15:20:31] <JoltEffect> thanks

L1382[15:20:50] <JoltEffect> i think ive managed to uplaod the source to githib as well

L1383[15:21:03] <JoltEffect> that took half a day to work out :)

L1384[15:21:18] <Curle> Same here.

L1385[15:21:19] <gigaherz> heh

L1386[15:21:28] <Curle> Once you git the hang of it, it becomes automatic

L1387[15:21:29] <Curle> :)

L1388[15:21:29] <gigaherz> I learned git a while before learning to mod ;P

L1389[15:21:37] <gigaherz> TortoiseGit was amazing help

L1390[15:21:41] <JoltEffect> now if you want to see noobish code at it's worst :) https://github.com/JoltEffect/Tesla-Modular-Solars

L1391[15:21:51] <gigaherz> I hated git beforeI managed to get it working with TortoiseGit

L1392[15:21:51] <gigaherz> ;P

L1393[15:22:12] <JoltEffect> from nothing to mod in 2 weeks, ish.

L1394[15:22:14] <gigaherz> yo uare missing a readme file, but hey your repository looks nice ;P

L1395[15:22:22] <gigaherz> yo udidn't upload crap ;P

L1396[15:22:51] <JoltEffect> mmmm maybe i can only see it

L1397[15:22:58] <JoltEffect> confuses the hell out me

L1398[15:23:26] <JoltEffect> i have 5 commits, do i have to accept them or something

L1399[15:23:34] <Curle> right click the project

L1400[15:23:34] <Curle> team

L1401[15:23:35] <Curle> commit

L1402[15:23:40] <Curle> push

L1403[15:23:41] <Curle> even

L1404[15:23:44] <Curle> team, push

L1405[15:23:55] <tterrag> you were right the first time

L1406[15:24:04] <Curle> he says he has 5 commits

L1407[15:24:05] <JoltEffect> though i had done that, i can see them on github

L1408[15:24:07] <tterrag> that said, eclipse egit is a crutch. learn cmdline :P

L1409[15:24:19] <Curle> oh, you mnea

L1410[15:24:22] <Curle> team, pull

L1411[15:24:32] <Curle> :L

L1412[15:24:43] <Curle> you mean you're 5 commits behind?

L1413[15:24:56] <Curle> pull from upstream

L1414[15:24:57] <Curle> :L

L1415[15:25:01] <JoltEffect> sorry i though you could not see my source on github

L1416[15:25:26] <Curle> im getting confused so im gonna shut up now

L1417[15:25:28] <JoltEffect> <gigaherz> yo udidn't upload crap ;P

L1418[15:25:38] <JoltEffect> thought you meand i didnt upload anyithng

L1419[15:25:46] <JoltEffect> but you mean i litteraly didnt upload crap

L1420[15:25:47] <JoltEffect> lol

L1421[15:25:53] <Curle> phrasing, lads.

L1422[15:25:55] <JoltEffect> i did several times

L1423[15:26:08] <JoltEffect> i deleted about 3/4 repo's before i managed to work it out

L1424[15:26:22] <gigaherz> oops sorry I didn't think of that other possible meaning

L1425[15:26:25] <gigaherz> I was being quite literal ;P

L1426[15:26:30] <gigaherz> non-sarcastic ;P

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L1428[15:36:17] <tterrag> well, fixed the 1.10.2 issues in BON2 http://ci.tterrag.com/job/BON2/3/

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L1430[15:40:39] <P3pp3rF1y> just had a crash where block's tileentity update was run after the block was broken

L1431[15:40:50] <P3pp3rF1y> and I do call removetileentity when it gets broken

L1432[15:41:18] <P3pp3rF1y> do I really need to check if the block still exists in the tileentity update

L1433[15:41:27] <P3pp3rF1y> or this is some kind of bug in vanilla/forge

L1434[15:41:45] <gigaherz> first, you shouldn't need to call removeTileEntity yourself? unlessyou override breakBlock but don't call super

L1435[15:41:52] <gigaherz> and... yeah it happens

L1436[15:42:00] <P3pp3rF1y> I call super

L1437[15:42:02] <gigaherz> yo uhave to prevent it from crashing and live with it

L1438[15:42:06] <P3pp3rF1y> that's what I meant

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L1440[15:42:45] <P3pp3rF1y> alright, I checked vanilla furnace logic and that doesn't seem to have any checks in happily works with block without checking

L1441[15:44:37] <gigaherz> do you use world.getblockstate or similar from your update?

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L1443[15:44:49] <P3pp3rF1y> I do

L1444[15:45:12] <P3pp3rF1y> and it gets minecraft:air in this case and thus can't see the properties

L1445[15:46:26] <gigaherz> yep you have to control for that

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L1447[15:55:19] <Curle> willie's with us

L1448[15:55:19] <Curle> :D

L1449[15:56:53] <PitchBright> anybody got any good ideas on how I should approach trying to make all food items always edible? I'm muckin' around and am a bit stumped on how to tackle this one. 1.7.10 btw.

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L1451[15:57:42] <Curle> pretty sure that's a boolean

L1452[15:57:47] <Curle> alwaysEdible

L1453[15:58:03] <Curle> so make a wrapper

L1454[15:58:07] <PitchBright> yeah... I tried messin' with it... but I'm probably too newb to know how to use it properly

L1455[15:58:26] <Curle> and replace all instances of <? extends ItemFood> (i think)

L1456[15:58:40] <Curle> with food that extends your wrapper

L1457[15:59:07] <Curle> or if item instanceof ItemFood, item.alwaysEdible = true

L1458[15:59:13] <Curle> a few ways

L1459[15:59:46] <williewillus> wat

L1460[15:59:50] <williewillus> replace all instances?

L1461[15:59:55] <Curle> whatever

L1462[16:00:05] <williewillus> you just need to find every itemfood in the registry and set the bool to true

L1463[16:00:06] <williewillus> :P

L1464[16:00:08] <Curle> im theoricizing

L1465[16:00:42] <Curle> pretty sure the boolean is protected

L1466[16:00:48] <williewillus> theres a setter

L1467[16:00:51] <williewillus> public

L1468[16:00:55] <Curle> huh

L1469[16:01:07] <Curle> I'll be damned

L1470[16:01:48] <PitchBright> is that the best way then?

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L1472[16:04:24] <williewillus> yes

L1473[16:04:27] <williewillus> you said all foods?

L1474[16:04:38] <williewillus> or just vanilla oens?

L1475[16:04:41] <PitchBright> yeah... for all the mods on the server

L1476[16:05:03] <williewillus> loop through the registry and call that setter on all ItemFood instances

L1477[16:05:05] <PitchBright> I hate that you can't eat food, when your hunger bar is full... so I wanna see if I can change it

L1478[16:05:56] <PitchBright> okay... I'll google up on how to do that and see if I can make'r happen. Thanks man!

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L1480[16:07:47] <williewillus> i wouldn't trust google for anything modding but okay :P

L1481[16:07:56] <madcrazydrumma> Im trying to use EntityPlayerMP#addChatMessage in my packet but its not working :/ is this the right way to use it?

L1482[16:08:05] <williewillus> define "not working"

L1483[16:08:42] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/953rjJ5N -> the print statement runs

L1484[16:08:49] <madcrazydrumma> but the message isnt being sent in the fail statement

L1485[16:10:24] <williewillus> how do you know it's running that code?

L1486[16:10:30] <williewillus> put prints in each branch of the if

L1487[16:10:32] <williewillus> not above the if

L1488[16:11:07] <williewillus> and blurgh that spellList thing reminds me of 1.6 block/item ids :P

L1489[16:12:27] <madcrazydrumma> ^^

L1490[16:12:39] <madcrazydrumma> I cant be bothered to make a capability for it right now

L1491[16:12:52] <williewillus> has nothing to do with caps :P

L1492[16:12:55] <madcrazydrumma> The mod is quite early in alpha so ill eventually make spells "learnable" but for now everyone gets the same shit

L1493[16:13:01] <madcrazydrumma> what do you mean then?

L1494[16:13:07] <williewillus> no the thing that disgusted me was the int ids :P

L1495[16:13:13] <madcrazydrumma> oooh xD

L1496[16:13:20] <williewillus> forge gives you a super easy to use registry system

L1497[16:13:21] <tterrag> use a forge registry

L1498[16:13:25] <madcrazydrumma> ?

L1499[16:13:41] <williewillus> you know how items and blocks work? you have an object + a string name + an int id that forge takes care of for you

L1500[16:13:48] <williewillus> so you don't have to work with ints

L1501[16:13:54] <williewillus> its all objects and resourcelocations

L1502[16:14:08] <madcrazydrumma> ooh yeah

L1503[16:14:30] <madcrazydrumma> Ill use it later, I just want to make sure this is working before refactoring, just how i work :p

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L1505[16:15:28] <williewillus> yeah its fine

L1506[16:15:41] <williewillus> i just pointed out how it reminded me of the old disgusting stuff :P

L1507[16:16:06] <madcrazydrumma> xD

L1508[16:16:09] <madcrazydrumma> apologies ;)

L1509[16:22:06] <madcrazydrumma> williewillus, how can I create a cooldown for the spell without using a tick handler? Because Im calling the packet so I want to check the cooldown first

L1510[16:22:18] <williewillus> you probably need one

L1511[16:22:21] <tterrag> save the tick when it was started

L1512[16:22:27] <tterrag> check that the required amount of time has elapsed

L1513[16:22:29] <tterrag> no polling needed

L1514[16:22:44] <williewillus> im not familiar with what your system is :P

L1515[16:22:46] <madcrazydrumma> tterrag, example?

L1516[16:23:00] <tterrag> I don't know your system. but when the spell is executed, save world.getTotalWorldTime()

L1517[16:23:01] <madcrazydrumma> I just want to start a cooldown when its activated, only if the skill is not currently on cooldown

L1518[16:23:18] <tterrag> when you need to check the cooldown, check that world.getTotalWorldTime() - spellStartTime > cooldownTime

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L1520[16:25:11] <madcrazydrumma> I know how I would get it working, I just dont know where i'd save i.e. the spellStartTime

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L1522[16:25:29] <tterrag> again, idk your system

L1523[16:25:35] <tterrag> put it in your capability?

L1524[16:25:38] <tterrag> something persisted

L1525[16:26:47] <madcrazydrumma> could do.

L1526[16:26:52] <madcrazydrumma> ill see what happens :b

L1527[16:28:05] <williewillus> is there an efficient way to give entities walking on my block an attribute modifier

L1528[16:28:10] <williewillus> and take it away when they leave it?

L1529[16:28:28] <williewillus> right now I have application in onEntityWalk but removal in a tickhandler and I don't like it x.x

L1530[16:28:37] <madcrazydrumma> That's the way I would have done it

L1531[16:28:45] <gigaherz> can't think of anything besizes using a potion effect with duration=1tick

L1532[16:28:51] <gigaherz> besides*

L1533[16:29:00] <williewillus> well its not a potion

L1534[16:29:02] <williewillus> just an attribute modifier

L1535[16:29:20] <williewillus> if i made a potion with the modifier

L1536[16:29:20] <gigaherz> I know, but a custom potion effect can apply attribute modifiers

L1537[16:29:26] <williewillus> then I have to go through all the legwork to hide it

L1538[16:29:41] <gigaherz> yeah as I said, I can't think of anything better than that, right now

L1539[16:32:02] <Curle> wouldn't he be able to use the cooldown like with the ender fruit?

L1540[16:32:17] <williewillus> that's item-bound

L1541[16:32:23] <Curle> fair enough

L1542[16:33:00] <madcrazydrumma> ^^ nice try Curle

L1543[16:33:14] <Curle> :D

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L1549[16:47:34] <Curle> madcrazy, try the method that the furnace uses to tell if smelting is done

L1550[16:47:44] <williewillus> wat

L1551[16:47:51] <Curle> that's essentially a cooldown

L1552[16:47:51] <williewillus> it stores a variable burntime in the TE

L1553[16:48:10] <Curle> so that ^ :L

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L1562[17:16:40] <madcrazydrumma> I had this code a while ago, but the particle system changed. So on line 21, how would I use that same particle effect? http://pastebin.com/0weXK7bf

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L1565[17:18:24] <madcrazydrumma> I know its ParticleRedstone but the constructors are protected

L1566[17:19:08] <P3pp3rF1y> what I use in mine is world.spawnParticle(EnumParticleTypes.REDSTONE,

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L1568[17:19:22] <P3pp3rF1y> the rest of the parameters should be the same

L1569[17:19:30] <williewillus> they all have factories

L1570[17:19:38] <williewillus> and yes normally you should be using world methods

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L1572[17:20:30] <madcrazydrumma> okay ill give that a go and see what happens

L1573[17:22:49] <madcrazydrumma> Hmm nothing shows

L1574[17:23:36] <madcrazydrumma> wait

L1575[17:23:42] <madcrazydrumma> do i have to register this entity?

L1576[17:23:43] <madcrazydrumma> lmao

L1577[17:25:04] <madcrazydrumma> Nevermind, it works when I use the client player not server player

L1578[17:25:32] <williewillus> wat

L1579[17:26:36] <madcrazydrumma> Ik

L1580[17:26:42] <madcrazydrumma> Wait ill paste the new code so you can see

L1581[17:26:57] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/HzaqqQsu

L1582[17:28:29] <madcrazydrumma> and spawning the entity: http://pastebin.com/PAcWgYXf

L1583[17:28:43] <williewillus> uhh

L1584[17:28:46] <williewillus> particles aren't entities

L1585[17:28:48] <williewillus> by the way

L1586[17:28:54] <williewillus> they shouldn't be

L1587[17:28:58] <madcrazydrumma> I know, but its for the effect

L1588[17:29:39] <williewillus> well if you're going to make it an entity you're goign to have to register it

L1589[17:29:50] <madcrazydrumma> it spawns when i do it that way

L1590[17:29:55] <madcrazydrumma> but i dont think itll be shown to other players

L1591[17:30:07] <williewillus> beacuse you're doing it clientside

L1592[17:30:37] <madcrazydrumma> So would I register it using the GameRegistry as per?

L1593[17:30:41] <williewillus> yes

L1594[17:30:52] <madcrazydrumma> EntityRegistry*

L1595[17:30:55] <williewillus> and spawn it serverside

L1596[17:31:13] <madcrazydrumma> I have a server player so i can use that?

L1597[17:31:18] <williewillus> use what

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L1599[17:32:24] <vastatio> Anyone know an event for when a Player types something in chat?

L1600[17:32:30] <madcrazydrumma> from my packet with the skill, i have the serverplayer casting the spell so i can spawn the effect from that?

L1601[17:32:59] <williewillus> what do you think? :P no need to ask every little thing

L1602[17:33:13] <williewillus> vastatio: serverchatevent

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L1604[17:33:19] <vastatio> Alright, thanks.

L1605[17:34:20] <madcrazydrumma> okay williewillus that didnt work xD

L1606[17:34:31] <williewillus> whenever you say "didn't work" add details

L1607[17:34:35] <williewillus> didn't work can mean a million things

L1608[17:34:42] <madcrazydrumma> that's true haha

L1609[17:34:49] <madcrazydrumma> The spell and everything works as per, but the particle isnt being shown

L1610[17:34:53] <madcrazydrumma> its being registered and all

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L1612[17:36:24] <williewillus> you're spawning the entity server side?

L1613[17:36:29] <madcrazydrumma> I think so

L1614[17:36:35] <williewillus> show code

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L1616[17:36:39] <madcrazydrumma> Im using EntityPlayerMP#worldObj

L1617[17:36:46] <williewillus> show full code :P

L1618[17:37:00] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/rZCej28E line#37

L1619[17:37:17] <madcrazydrumma> the EntityPlayer input to that method is the EPMP from the packet

L1620[17:37:25] <williewillus> uhhhh

L1621[17:37:26] <williewillus> wat

L1622[17:37:30] <williewillus> you have client code in that method

L1623[17:37:40] <madcrazydrumma> only for the sound

L1624[17:37:41] <williewillus> Minecraft.getMinecraft is client-only

L1625[17:37:44] <williewillus> that won't work

L1626[17:37:47] <madcrazydrumma> only for the sound ^

L1627[17:37:51] <williewillus> it won't work

L1628[17:37:57] <madcrazydrumma> the sound plays haha

L1629[17:38:01] <williewillus> this method will crash the moment its run or loaded on a dedicated server

L1630[17:38:04] <williewillus> don't believe it try it

L1631[17:38:11] <madcrazydrumma> so if i ran a server it would crash?

L1632[17:38:13] <williewillus> yes

L1633[17:38:18] <williewillus> read the readthedocs on sides

L1634[17:38:18] <madcrazydrumma> okay

L1635[17:38:22] <williewillus> and you'll know why >.<

L1636[17:38:44] <madcrazydrumma> okay i changed it, will sort it out later ^

L1637[17:38:55] <madcrazydrumma> any idea still why the particle doesnt show?

L1638[17:39:10] <madcrazydrumma> Do I need a render for it even though its just an entity consisting of particle effects?

L1639[17:39:37] <williewillus> no

L1640[17:39:42] <williewillus> because it's just spawning other particles

L1641[17:39:48] <williewillus> check if its onupdate is being run clientside

L1642[17:39:53] <williewillus> (print out world.isRemote)

L1643[17:40:00] <williewillus> in onupdate

L1644[17:41:50] <madcrazydrumma> Just opened console: http://pastebin.com/280nRpBj

L1645[17:41:54] <madcrazydrumma> world is not remote

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L1647[17:42:09] <williewillus> the stacktrace tells you the problem

L1648[17:42:14] <williewillus> <init> is the name of a constructor

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L1650[17:43:33] <madcrazydrumma> So that means I need just a constructor with just World parameter?

L1651[17:43:37] <williewillus> yes

L1652[17:43:39] <williewillus> all entities do

L1653[17:43:45] <madcrazydrumma> okay i can just overload the second one then

L1654[17:45:08] <madcrazydrumma> Final thing, why is this black box here? xD http://imgur.com/a/UC8JG

L1655[17:45:28] <williewillus> ?

L1656[17:45:42] <williewillus> entities without a renderer default to a white box iirc. no idea why its black though

L1657[17:46:05] <madcrazydrumma> any way to get rid of it?

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L1659[17:46:51] <williewillus> i wouldn't use an entity forthis in the first place but whatever :P

L1660[17:47:24] <madcrazydrumma> xD

L1661[17:49:03] <madcrazydrumma> Is there like an empty render i can use for it?

L1662[17:49:13] <williewillus> set the entity size to 0

L1663[17:49:20] <madcrazydrumma> I did in the constructor

L1664[17:49:25] <williewillus> both dimensions?

L1665[17:50:57] <madcrazydrumma> yeah

L1666[17:51:14] <williewillus> not sure if that black box is the entity then

L1667[17:51:25] <madcrazydrumma> this is terrifying xD

L1668[17:51:37] <williewillus> wat

L1669[17:51:56] <Ordinastie_> make no mistakes, the black box is coming for you!

L1670[17:52:28] <Ordinastie_> it probably just wants to be friend though

L1671[17:54:10] <madcrazydrumma> Now its not even spawning any particles what the heck xD

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L1674[17:57:14] <williewillus> did you do what i told you to?

L1675[17:57:20] <williewillus> see if the onupdate is running clientside

L1676[17:57:33] <madcrazydrumma> it changes from like false to true

L1677[17:57:50] <LexDesktop> Itotally didn't accedently include a debug line in my last commit.

L1678[17:58:01] * LexDesktop waves hands "You saw nothing"

L1679[17:58:34] * madcrazydrumma claims he is blind

L1680[17:58:40] <Ordinastie_> and you just found the most effective way to have people review your commits

L1681[17:58:48] * howtonotwin gouges his own eyes out

L1682[17:59:03] <madcrazydrumma> HowToNo Twin, how you doing? ;)

L1683[17:59:25] <howtonotwin> I am a loser, not George ;_;

L1684[18:00:07] <madcrazydrumma> williewillus, i think the black box may be because of the brightness methods im overriding

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L1686[18:01:00] <madcrazydrumma> Okay now it's a white box

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L1688[18:03:55] <williewillus> $ labels add 3214 Feature

L1689[18:03:56] <Actuarius> Added labels [Feature] for issue 3214; new labels: [Feature].

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L1691[18:06:23] <vastatio> williewillus: Is there an event specifically for commands? (ServerChatEvent doesn't seem to work with commands)

L1692[18:06:36] <williewillus> commandevent

L1693[18:06:39] <williewillus> :P

L1694[18:06:45] <vastatio> Ha, well

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L1700[18:20:39] <Ordinastie_> can someone show me the call hierarchy for Item.getAnimationParameters() ?

L1701[18:20:56] <williewillus> unused

L1702[18:21:18] <Ordinastie_> wlel, that explains what I couldn't find any

L1703[18:21:34] <williewillus> probably something fry|afk was working on but didnt finish yet

L1704[18:22:17] <Ordinastie_> trying to find out what makes the Item CLOCK tick

L1705[18:23:12] <howtonotwin> Item Properties

L1706[18:23:20] <Ordinastie_> I mean internally

L1707[18:23:27] <Ordinastie_> can't find what call apply on it

L1708[18:23:49] <howtonotwin> Call hierarchy on IItemPropertyGetter:apply then?

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L1710[18:24:56] <Ordinastie_> wow, if only I could think of that

L1711[18:25:36] <howtonotwin> Poe's law, it is strong with this one :P

L1712[18:25:50] <williewillus> its in the model system. RenderItem calls bakedModel.getOverrides().handleItemState

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L1714[18:25:58] <williewillus> and the default handleItemState calls all property overrides

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L1717[18:26:54] <Ordinastie_> ah thanks

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L1720[18:35:35] <KnightMiner> How does the path priority system from 1.10? work? Is a value of 1 default?

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L1794[21:57:04] <Grinch> What would the best way to get the player count (think 1/20 players online) from the currently connected server be?

L1795[21:57:52] <howtonotwin> I think there's a method on World(Server?) for getting a list of all connected players. You can just do size() on that

L1796[21:59:50] <Grinch> How would I get the max players allowed by the server?

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L1806[22:20:44] <SatanicSanta> Grinch: Briefly looking there's ServerData#populationInfo which returns a string like 1/20

L1807[22:21:35] <SatanicSanta> thats what the server selection screen uses

L1808[22:21:55] <Grinch> Right, and I see there is Minecraft.getMinecraft.getCurrentServerData#populationInfo however that gets me a null while on the server.

L1809[22:22:08] <Grinch> I can get the ip and the motd

L1810[22:23:18] <SatanicSanta> hm

L1811[22:23:33] <SatanicSanta> right ServerData is a client only class

L1812[22:23:43] <Grinch> This is from the client I want this info

L1813[22:23:48] <SatanicSanta> oh

L1814[22:23:55] <Grinch> Drawing it on screen, sorry that I didn't mention that bit :p

L1815[22:23:55] <SatanicSanta> then ping the server

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L1820[22:29:26] <SatanicSanta> Grinch: new ServerPinger().ping(Minecraft.getMinecraft().getCurrentServerData()); Minecraft.getMinecraft().getCurrentServerData().populationInfo;

L1821[22:29:37] <SatanicSanta> obviously with proper ServerData#pinged checks

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L1823[22:30:25] <tterrag> pretty sure you don't need to construct a server pinger

L1824[22:31:01] <SatanicSanta> it's only initialized twice

L1825[22:31:19] <SatanicSanta> once in GuiMultiplayer as an instance var

L1826[22:31:43] <SatanicSanta> and once in one of the FML client classes as a local var in some connectOnStartup method, or something like that

L1827[22:31:50] <SatanicSanta> and ping is an instance method

L1828[22:32:04] <SatanicSanta> 'course I've never done this so I could def be wrong

L1829[22:33:48] <HassanS6000> In 1.10.2 what happened to PlayerInteractEvent ? It no longer has an action variable in it?

L1830[22:34:23] <HassanS6000> oh nvm

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L1832[22:41:56] <HassanS6000> !gm onCraftGuiOpened 1.8.9

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