OCLogs: 2016-07-01.log

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L7[00:12:52] <FusionLord> anyone have any ideas as to why my CI Server is erroring out? http://puu.sh/pM1sq/151a748a20.png Full Log: http://puu.sh/pM3Lw/457df432cc.txt

L8[00:13:29] <tterrag> there's nothing there

L9[00:13:41] <tterrag> run with -i and maybe --stacktrace

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L11[00:14:48] <FusionLord> That was ran with --stacktrace which is what I don't understand

L12[00:15:50] <tterrag> use -i

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L17[00:25:37] <FusionLord> tterrag, http://puu.sh/pMhxQ/82c321d925.txt only new line is "[:extractRangemapReplacedMain] file or directory '/home/teamcity/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/6519baad3434b615/libs', not found"

L18[00:26:22] <tterrag> don't know

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L20[00:26:24] <tterrag> never used teamcity

L21[00:26:27] <tterrag> ask #ForgeGradle I guess

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L31[00:51:04] <tterrag> diesieben07: do you have some info on methodhandles?

L32[00:55:13] <Disconsented> Okay so I am getting an error whilst deserialisng some config files with GSON, however the class which caused the error I don't believe I reference where relevant. Any ideas? Log: https://gist.github.com/disconsented/3b3989446daff5042337e2ce6b3feeea#file-gistfile1-txt-L115 Class referred to: https://github.com/disconsented/ANSSRPG/blob/feature/mod_support/src/main/java/disconsented/anssrpg/core/server/config/JsonConfigHandler.java#L120

L33[00:57:08] <tterrag> yeah you're not going to be able to deserialize an EntityPlayer

L34[00:57:35] <tterrag> why would you even

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L37[01:00:26] <Delenas> What would be the best method to open a guiContainer and container from an already open gui?

L38[01:00:39] <tterrag> same as normal?

L39[01:00:42] <tterrag> player.openGui

L40[01:00:53] <tterrag> called serverside of course

L41[01:00:59] <Disconsented> Im not

L42[01:01:06] <Delenas> This gui is client-side.

L43[01:01:10] <Disconsented> I dont know why that class is even mentioned

L44[01:01:21] <tterrag> you just said it has a container Delenas

L45[01:01:27] <tterrag> Disconsented: well Gson thinks you are

L46[01:01:59] <tterrag> Disconsented: what class IS it deserializing then?

L47[01:02:00] <Delenas> No, I asked how to open a container with the gui. Perhaps I wasn't clear

L48[01:02:12] <elan_oots> You'd need to send a packet

L49[01:02:15] <FusionLord> Delenas, ^

L50[01:02:23] <tterrag> yes, a packet

L51[01:02:40] <elan_oots> Have the client send a packet to the server, and the server then call player.openGui

L52[01:02:46] <FusionLord> send packet to the server to open the Continaer

L53[01:02:46] <Disconsented> https://github.com/disconsented/ANSSRPG/blob/feature/mod_support/src/main/java/disconsented/anssrpg/core/server/config/PerkContainer.java#L133

L54[01:03:05] <Delenas> Something like MessageEditWhitelist(Yaddayadda) and then proceed to client code?

L55[01:03:28] <FusionLord> You can call it whatever you like

L56[01:03:48] <FusionLord> just when you recieve the packet on the server call player.openGui

L57[01:03:55] <elan_oots> On the client side, when the action is taken send a packet to the server. In the packet handler on the server, call player.openGui

L58[01:04:16] <tterrag> Disconsented: not sure what that's linking

L59[01:04:30] <Disconsented> That is what is being deserialised

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L61[01:04:54] <tterrag> Disconsented: a closing bracket?

L62[01:05:21] <FusionLord> I would think the whole class tterrag

L63[01:05:35] <Disconsented> ^

L64[01:05:45] <Delenas> Well there's your problem. Ya need to add the opening bracket /s

L65[01:05:55] <Disconsented> i wish

L66[01:06:03] <tterrag> I don't see anything about deserialization in that class

L67[01:06:14] <tterrag> I asked what class was being deserialized to in this particular crash

L68[01:06:22] <Delenas> What are you looking to get? DO you have an example format, or end goal?

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L70[01:07:36] <FusionLord> :/ NetFlix lost my place in a show LAME -.-

L71[01:08:38] <Flaeme> I am so excited. Now I just need to do the same for the ItemBlocks, get names working, and choose less god awful names :P https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Y5pORRPV/2016-07-01_00.06.50.png

L72[01:08:57] <elan_oots> Good job!

L73[01:09:16] <Disconsented> And I did link it tterrag

L74[01:09:17] <Flaeme> err, s/awful names/awful colors/

L75[01:09:38] <Disconsented> https://github.com/disconsented/ANSSRPG/blob/feature/mod_support/src/main/java/disconsented/anssrpg/core/server/config/PerkContainer.java this is the class that is being deserialisted

L76[01:09:40] <FusionLord> awful colors... for sure especially that purple

L77[01:10:05] <tterrag> hm, ok

L78[01:10:14] <Delenas> I like the purple. :<

L79[01:10:25] <Delenas> The world needs more purple.

L80[01:10:35] <FusionLord> not that purple

L81[01:10:54] <Flaeme> I just kinda took the first hex value WA gave for each name (except lightened light blue/darkened blue)

L82[01:11:04] <Flaeme> Which as you can see doesn't match the wool

L83[01:11:05] <FusionLord> lol

L84[01:11:35] <Delenas> The wiki has the exact color codes

L85[01:12:11] <Flaeme> Delenas: well, average from the wool, but I wanted them to be... less random? if that makes sense?

L86[01:12:11] <elan_oots> The purple looks more like the stained purple clay's color

L87[01:12:15] <elan_oots> which is IMO better

L88[01:12:32] <Flaeme> The wool color is kinda all over

L89[01:12:38] <Flaeme> not pure color etc

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L91[01:13:16] <Delenas> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Dye <- See data values

L92[01:13:35] <tterrag> Disconsented: I don't know. you need to run a debugger down the rabbit hole on that particular config entry

L93[01:13:43] <tterrag> see what path it's taking to get to EntityPlayer

L94[01:13:49] <tterrag> I suspect it might be the Potion one

L95[01:13:54] <tterrag> but I can't see exactly how

L96[01:14:12] <Disconsented> Okay cool thanks for looking

L97[01:14:16] <Disconsented> Ill start there

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L99[01:14:30] <Delenas> If all else fails, I hear Greek fire is nice. :>

L100[01:15:48] <FusionLord> I keep seeing references to Gree Fire... What is that a reference to?

L101[01:18:28] <Flaeme> I suppose this will do. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jmBcpD0J/2016-07-01_00.18.03.png

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L103[01:22:59] <Flaeme> I like how it took me an hour or two to get BlockColor working, but then it only took like three minutes to get an ItemColor too because I knew all the problems already :P

L104[01:23:20] <elan_oots> That's what learning is good for

L105[01:24:06] <Flaeme> Now I need names and crafting and technically I have a "complete" mod! Where everything is survival-friendly!

L106[01:27:14] <elan_oots> Protip: Don't get into an infinite debugger loop

L107[01:28:07] <elan_oots> Breakpoint at writeToNBT -> game pauses -> IntelliJ takes control from Minecraft -> Go through breakpoints -> Game is out of focus so it pauses -> writeToNBT is called

L108[01:28:13] <elan_oots> Repeat ad infinitum

L109[01:28:24] <Flaeme> But the interesting bit is that now I can easily expand. The whole framework is set up so that it's easy for me to add more blocks with a different texture and RP makers will have close to full control

L110[01:29:01] <Flaeme> The only thing they can't do is change the tint.

L111[01:29:11] <Delenas> FusionLord, Greek Fire is a hellish substance. It shoots like liquid but burns errything.

L112[01:30:39] <tterrag> and no one knows what it is :p

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L116[01:34:14] <elan_oots> Ok so I have a container that will send a packet to sync if any value changes, but how can I get it to sync when it's created?

L117[01:34:22] <elan_oots> Should I just have it send a packet in the constructor?

L118[01:36:58] <Flaeme> I kinda wanna go to (tweaked) versions of the original colors still. More bright and bold, and remind me of the Anti Block in chisel.

L119[01:37:08] <elan_oots> Do it!

L120[01:37:10] <elan_oots> It'd look great

L121[01:37:22] <Flaeme> Also, any tips on how to do names?

L122[01:37:50] <Flaeme> Like I do not know how to do them at all :P

L123[01:38:04] <Flaeme> And then I can dive into crafting after that.

L124[01:38:07] <elan_oots> What kind of names?

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L126[01:38:52] <Flaeme> elan_oots: localized names, instead of tile.whatever.name

L127[01:38:59] <elan_oots> Oh

L128[01:39:06] <elan_oots> In your assets/modid folder

L129[01:39:10] <elan_oots> Make a folder called lang

L130[01:39:24] <elan_oots> In it make en_US.lang or whatever other language

L131[01:39:27] <Flaeme> Especially with properties/metadata

L132[01:39:55] <elan_oots> Then for every time ingame you see tile.x.name put a new line in the file: tile.x.name=X's name

L133[01:40:23] <elan_oots> For example a line in my en_US.lang is "tile.carbon_fiber_block.name=Carbon Fiber Block"

L134[01:41:24] <Flaeme> how about in my case where I have the 16 colors in the block?

L135[01:41:34] <Flaeme> how do I set names for all of them?

L136[01:41:49] <tterrag> it doesn't matter

L137[01:41:55] <tterrag> a lang file is just a map of key->name

L138[01:42:00] <elan_oots> What do they show up as ingame?

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L140[01:42:11] <tterrag> so whatever unloc name it shows is what it'll translate

L141[01:43:39] <elan_oots> Is MessageContext.side the side that the message was sent on or received on?

L142[01:44:13] <Flaeme> tterrag: in that case, how do I get the unlocalized name to take the meta into account? :P

L143[01:44:25] <tterrag> getUnlocalizedName ?

L144[01:44:33] <elan_oots> What does each block show up as in game?

L145[01:44:37] <tterrag> elan_oots: received

L146[01:44:43] <elan_oots> Ok thanks tterag

L147[01:44:56] <Flaeme> no, how do i make the name reflect the meta in it sorry

L148[01:45:04] <tterrag> same answer :P

L149[01:45:06] <Flaeme> so I can give them different names

L150[01:45:17] <elan_oots> Wait so are all of their unlocalized names the same?

L151[01:45:21] <Flaeme> Oh, I override getUnlocalizedName?

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L153[01:46:12] <Flaeme> tterrag: ^

L154[01:46:40] <tterrag> yes

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L156[01:48:58] <Flaeme> cool, thanks!

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L173[02:22:55] <Disconsented> Hmm

L174[02:23:04] <Disconsented> okay so, my files are processed fine

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L177[02:26:43] <elan_oots> 3 AM me: If the current progress is less than required, do the thing!

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L180[02:44:43] <FusionLord> I just tried building from Intellij(because ci is failing) and got "Gradle build daemon disappeared unexpectedly (it may have been killed or may have crashed)" The full log again: http://puu.sh/pMnpk/c747879a71.txt

L181[02:48:43] <FusionLord> I also reverted my recient changes and built the reverted changes, and ci had no issues building, the only notable change was the addition of a Capability. https://github.com/FireBall1725/Graves/commit/06b38603b3d4bb21792a5811435ce2b9aa7ba99c

L182[02:49:23] <Tazz> uggh need to rewrite my parser >.<

L183[02:56:09] <sham1> :P

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L185[03:11:43] <Tazz> sham1, it needs it haha

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L189[03:18:04] <Tazz> sham1, did I mention I got parameters and other stuffs working in Eschelle?

L190[03:18:13] <sham1> I think you have

L191[03:18:14] <Tazz> all I need to do is get instance calls working and all should be fine XD

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L194[03:32:58] <Tazz> hey sham1 question?

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L196[03:33:33] <sham1> ?

L197[03:33:41] <sham1> Also, how did that not ping me

L198[03:33:59] <Tazz> XD

L199[03:34:42] <Tazz> should I add something like scala's phaser to Eschelle? where typing a var/val is optional?

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L201[03:35:02] <sham1> I personally would just have them be mandatory

L202[03:35:02] <Tazz> like val x = 100; would resolve to be the same as val x: Long = 100;?

L203[03:35:08] <sham1> Oh

L204[03:35:14] <sham1> You mean type inference

L205[03:35:18] <sham1> Go for it

L206[03:35:21] <Tazz> go for it?

L207[03:35:31] <sham1> Ya

L208[03:35:35] <sham1> TYpe inference is gud

L209[03:35:48] <Tazz> yes I do enjoy it

L210[03:36:01] <Tazz> but I was a little on the fence about it haha

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L217[04:09:50] <MalkContent> playing regrowth, can't craft endoflame.. anyone else encounter this?

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L220[04:10:35] <Kopharex> How can i store a position as a Property?

L221[04:11:05] <masa> where?

L222[04:11:42] <Kopharex> In a block

L223[04:12:01] <Kopharex> A master block's position in a multibloc structure

L224[04:12:08] <Kopharex> multiblock*

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L226[04:13:08] <masa> store it in a TE and add the appropriate (de-)serialization to the read/writeNBT methods

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L228[04:14:40] <MalkContent> assuming it's a classic 3x3 multiblock you could do it implicitly by knowing the blocks visual state (assuming every outer block has it's own). also i have barely touched post 1.8 blocks, so i am probably talking out of my ass :)

L229[04:15:18] <Kopharex> I'd like it to be of dynamic size. Shouldn't I use the new BlockStates though?

L230[04:16:16] <MalkContent> i don't know if they could handle that

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L232[04:18:28] <tterrag> they can, but not without a TE

L233[04:19:54] <tterrag> blockstates aren't magical storage

L234[04:19:57] <tterrag> it's still just 4 bits of meta

L235[04:20:20] <Kopharex> Ok, got it

L236[04:20:24] <Kopharex> Thanks

L237[04:22:28] <MalkContent> would it be more efficient to have a te for every block of the structure

L238[04:22:48] <MalkContent> or to search the master block everytime it is required?

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L242[04:26:41] <tterrag> depends on how either are implemented

L243[04:26:49] <tterrag> but in general non-ticking TEs are not that expensive

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L246[04:29:56] <Kopharex> By the way, does anyone know of any multiblock tutorial for 1.9.4?

L247[04:30:19] <Kopharex> Or a tutorial about TileEntities?

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L250[04:35:14] <ghz|afk> Kolatra: I don't know a tutorial but I can do a quick guide ;P

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L252[04:35:22] <gigaherz> oops

L253[04:35:24] <gigaherz> Kopharex*

L254[04:35:32] <Kolatra> All good. :p

L255[04:35:48] * gigaherz yawns

L256[04:35:51] <Kolatra> A MultiBlock tutorial or documentation would be neat though.

L257[04:35:52] <Kopharex> I'd really be grateful for that giga

L258[04:36:07] <gigaherz> so

L259[04:36:25] <gigaherz> multiblocks as in, structures

L260[04:36:31] <gigaherz> or sub-blocks within one Block class?

L261[04:36:56] <Kopharex> Structures

L262[04:37:00] <gigaherz> okay

L263[04:37:01] <Kopharex> Like Big Reactors

L264[04:37:11] <gigaherz> the #1 key to understand multiblock structures:

L265[04:37:21] <gigaherz> they aren't really one thing,

L266[04:37:33] <gigaherz> but a collection of separate independent blocks&TEs cooperating to act as one

L267[04:37:43] <gigaherz> in the general case

L268[04:37:46] <gigaherz> there's one master TE

L269[04:37:54] <gigaherz> and a set of slave TEs that forward things to the master

L270[04:38:11] <gigaherz> multiblock structures is where the Capability system is the most awesome

L271[04:38:25] <gigaherz> since you con't have to implement interfaces through forwarding each and every call :D

L272[04:38:44] <gigaherz> now, in order to achieve this master-slave relationship

L273[04:38:53] <gigaherz> each block in the structure needs to know their relative position

L274[04:38:56] <gigaherz> so like

L275[04:39:05] <gigaherz> "i'm at -1,+3,-3 relative to the master"

L276[04:39:12] <gigaherz> so that they can find the master later

L277[04:39:55] <gigaherz> if the structure is of a known size, this relative position information also works as a way to be able to choose a model for rendering

L278[04:40:36] <gigaherz> example: http://media-elerium.cursecdn.com/avatars/23/910/635749881226158969.jpeg

L279[04:40:51] <gigaherz> the ones that are at a corner

L280[04:41:01] <gigaherz> (-1,-1,-1), (-1,-1,1) etc

L281[04:41:21] <gigaherz> draw using one model

L282[04:41:29] <gigaherz> and the ones at an edge draw using the redstone bar

L283[04:41:37] <Kopharex> I see

L284[04:41:41] <gigaherz> and on top of that, the ones at the bottom get the base added

L285[04:42:19] <gigaherz> if you have a dynamic structure size

L286[04:42:27] <gigaherz> well then you'll have to keep that information in the master

L287[04:42:27] <gigaherz> ;P

L288[04:42:45] <gigaherz> save the size and the location of the master inside the structure

L289[04:43:00] <gigaherz> (bottom center block is a good choice if you don't have a controller block explicitly)

L290[04:43:28] <gigaherz> then it's all a matter of having some code that detects the structure

L291[04:43:47] <gigaherz> and some code on the structure pieces that can disassemble the structure when they break

L292[04:44:08] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/rift/RiftStructure.java

L293[04:44:11] <gigaherz> in my case I have this class

L294[04:44:48] <gigaherz> there's two arrays there

L295[04:45:04] <gigaherz> for the blocks used before the structure is fully assembled, and the blocks that end up being part of the structure after assembling

L296[04:45:14] <gigaherz> you don't have to follow that system, if you want it variable-size

L297[04:45:22] <gigaherz> that's just an example of what I came up with

L298[04:45:42] <gigaherz> so that's for the multiblock

L299[04:45:52] <gigaherz> working with TileEntities is simple

L300[04:46:14] <gigaherz> all you do is have your Block class override hasTileEntity and createTileEntity -- the versions that are NOT deprecated

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L302[04:46:19] <gigaherz> and ignore ITileEntityProvider

L303[04:46:34] <gigaherz> and make sure that you did GameREgistry.registerTileEntity also ;P

L304[04:46:47] <gigaherz> then you simply work with the TileEntity classes you have

L305[04:47:34] <Kopharex> Okay, I'll spend the next hour or so checking out Capabilities, Tile Entities and your code.

L306[04:49:47] <MalkContent> would EZ-multiblock make for a good cap?

L307[04:51:25] <gigaherz> there's too many ways to make a multiblock

L308[04:51:54] <gigaherz> if you made an api for it, and made it flexible enough

L309[04:52:01] <gigaherz> it may just be too complex

L310[04:52:16] <gigaherz> if you make it for a specific use case, it may be too specific

L311[04:52:17] <gigaherz> dunno

L312[04:52:24] <gigaherz> You'd have to try

L313[04:52:47] <MalkContent> i mean there'd probably be stages

L314[04:53:18] <MalkContent> cube/cuboid/complex or smth :D idk

L315[04:53:22] <gigaherz> yeah but like: my multiblock structures are facing-agnostic and fixed

L316[04:53:28] <gigaherz> so the code is simple

L317[04:53:34] <gigaherz> I don't have to check if it may be rotated

L318[04:53:39] <MalkContent> i'm just talking crap because i can't figure out why regrowth won't let me craft an endoflame

L319[04:53:47] <MalkContent> this is your fault giga :P

L320[04:53:52] * gigaherz shrugs

L321[04:54:01] <gigaherz> Regrowth changed since I played it

L322[04:54:04] <gigaherz> got a big update

L323[04:54:09] <MalkContent> now I'm finding myself crawling through scripts to see if it got removed somewhere

L324[04:54:16] <MalkContent> or, hopefully, just changed

L325[04:55:00] <MalkContent> well it's not really your fault

L326[04:55:33] <MalkContent> i want the damn endoflame though. bring it back. make botania great again.

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L328[04:57:46] <gigaherz> people are talking about endoflames in the context of regrowth all over the place

L329[04:58:06] <MalkContent> yea. but mostly about using them :/

L330[04:58:29] <MalkContent> haven't found a "o, there's no endoflames" thread yet

L331[04:59:07] <gigaherz> and there's no recipes for it?

L332[05:00:02] <gigaherz> maybe you have to unlock it through the book somehow

L333[05:00:36] <MalkContent> idk. i see it in the book. nei says it's there

L334[05:00:41] <MalkContent> and i can craft other flowers

L335[05:01:26] <gigaherz> dunno all I can say is: follow the book.

L336[05:01:39] <MalkContent> but when i do the endoflame recipe, it doesn't give me the "ok, you can toss the seed now"

L337[05:01:48] <gigaherz> ah

L338[05:01:54] <gigaherz> hmf

L339[05:01:57] <gigaherz> no idea then

L340[05:02:02] <gigaherz> you got a reddit account?

L341[05:02:02] <gigaherz> ;P

L342[05:02:36] <gigaherz> I'm sure if you make a post about it a whole bunch of people will happily tell you how wrong you are

L343[05:02:36] <gigaherz> ;P

L344[05:03:10] <MalkContent> yea

L345[05:03:21] <MalkContent> probably my best bet by now

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L350[05:23:46] <MalkContent> sigh. you know when you got a situation where you don't want to make an error

L351[05:24:07] <MalkContent> and concentrate so you don't mistake a for b, because they are kind of similar

L352[05:24:44] <MalkContent> and then make the error because you doublechecked and were super sure to have it right

L353[05:24:53] <MalkContent> just remembered it wrong in the first place

L354[05:25:09] <MalkContent> turns out the stupid endoflame uses light gray petals. not gray ones.

L355[05:25:16] <gigaherz> heh

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L371[06:06:16] <Tazz> shit I broke branching XD

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L373[06:07:20] <sham1> Meanwhile, I try to render a triangle

L374[06:07:29] <sham1> And have my transformation matrix

L375[06:07:44] <Disconsented> Narrowed down the problem, even if not being de/serialised Gson will crash when it encounters mc's block class -_-

L376[06:09:36] <sham1> My problem is that when I apply the matrix to my vertices in my vertex shader, the triangle only shows up every so often instead of every time I launch my thing

L377[06:11:06] <abab9579> sham, what do you mean by 'every so often' and 'launch'?

L378[06:11:24] <sham1> I try to restart my application

L379[06:11:40] <sham1> And my triangle gets actually rendered randomly

L380[06:11:56] <sham1> Like 1 launch I don't get it at all, and the second launch I do get it and so on

L381[06:12:56] <sham1> It's very weird

L382[06:13:19] <abab9579> First, is it Positioning problem or Blending Problem?

L383[06:13:29] <sham1> What do you mean

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L385[06:14:19] <abab9579> Try changing color to (1,1,1,1) on fragment shader.

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L387[06:14:33] <sham1> Okay

L388[06:14:52] <sham1> Nope

L389[06:14:59] <sham1> Still only renders every so often

L390[06:15:34] <abab9579> Then.. try using fixed position on vertex shader.

L391[06:16:29] <sham1> Umn

L392[06:16:59] <sham1> How would that even work

L393[06:17:01] <abab9579> To check if the problem is the position.

L394[06:17:19] <Disconsented> tterrag|ZZZzzz> In case you were wondering the culprit was the non serialised mc classes, adding the 'transient' keyword resolved this :D

L395[06:17:59] <sham1> It shouldn't be seeing as it does render, but the problem is that it does not always render

L396[06:18:11] <sham1> When it actually does render it has the correct positioning

L397[06:18:38] <Kopharex> should I register Items in a Common Proxy or in a Server Proxy?

L398[06:18:49] <sham1> Preferably outside of a proxy

L399[06:18:57] <sham1> But you could do it in the common one

L400[06:19:17] <Kopharex> Why outside?

L401[06:19:30] <sham1> It's not an operation that you should not do in a proxy

L402[06:19:37] <sham1> that you should do*

L403[06:19:39] <abab9579> Yes, possibility of position problem is very low. But just for certification.

L404[06:19:42] <sham1> Damn it double negative

L405[06:19:42] <gigaherz> Kopharex: yo ucan put it in common

L406[06:19:47] <gigaherz> but there's no need to do it in a proxy at all

L407[06:19:57] <gigaherz> I do all my registrations right there in the @Mod class

L408[06:20:07] <Kopharex> So proxies are just for client specific or server specific code?

L409[06:20:16] <gigaherz> and only use the proxies for things that wouldn't work on the opposite jar

L410[06:20:21] <Kopharex> Common code goes in the mod class?

L411[06:20:30] <gigaherz> such as rendering -- since the rendering classes don't exist on the server, it would crash on load

L412[06:20:37] <gigaherz> the proxy avoids the code fromreferencing those classes directly

L413[06:20:45] <gigaherz> but for registering blocks and items and recipes

L414[06:20:49] <gigaherz> you have to do it on both jars

L415[06:20:55] <gigaherz> since the client also needs to know about them

L416[06:21:04] <gigaherz> so you could do it in a common project superclass

L417[06:21:06] <gigaherz> but why?

L418[06:21:12] <gigaherz> yo ucan just use the @Mod class directly

L419[06:21:27] <gigaherz> and yeah

L420[06:21:33] <gigaherz> I don't even have a Common proxy at all

L421[06:21:36] <gigaherz> I have an interface

L422[06:21:42] <gigaherz> and two implementations: .client.ClientProxy

L423[06:21:48] <abab9579> sham1, is it independent program? Then the GL setup would definitely be needed to resolve this problem.

L424[06:21:49] <gigaherz> and .server.ServerProxy

L425[06:21:54] <Kopharex> Yeah I thought that doing it in the common proxy would be more consistent

L426[06:22:07] <gigaherz> well you CAN

L427[06:22:12] <sham1> Yes it is independent

L428[06:22:13] <gigaherz> if you really want to, there's nothing wrong with it

L429[06:22:27] <gigaherz> it's just not necessary

L430[06:22:47] <abab9579> How did you setup GL?

L431[06:22:49] <Kopharex> Okay, thanks for the info :)

L432[06:22:53] <sham1> Umn

L433[06:22:58] <sham1> Let me just post some code

L434[06:23:09] <abab9579> That'd be great

L435[06:23:48] <sham1> In fact

L436[06:24:11] <sham1> Let me set up a repo real quick

L437[06:26:43] <sham1> https://gitlab.com/sham1/RandomFPS/blob/master/src/main.cpp

L438[06:26:51] <sham1> Here is where I set up the OpenGL stuff

L439[06:27:02] <sham1> Using SDL to handle stuff for me

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L442[06:30:11] <abab9579> Got 404 error with rhe URL.

L443[06:30:26] <sham1> That shouldn't happe

L444[06:30:33] <sham1> Wait

L445[06:30:54] <gigaherz> private repo?

L446[06:30:57] <gigaherz> it asked me to login

L447[06:31:07] <sham1> Yeah

L448[06:31:13] <sham1> For some reason gitlab default to it

L449[06:31:14] <sham1> Try it now

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L451[06:33:54] <sham1> It could be that my Matrix class is borked, but seeing as the transformations do work when the thing renders, I doubt it

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L453[06:36:11] <abab9579> Is it 2d program? If it is, then it would just be z clipping problem.

L454[06:37:14] <sham1> 3d

L455[06:38:01] <abab9579> So depth value is variable..

L456[06:38:50] <sham1> Well, it will be

L457[06:39:05] <sham1> I'm just trying to get these matrices to work before doing anything else

L458[06:40:48] <Tazz> really XD

L459[06:40:56] <Tazz> of all things my constant propagator is what is breaking branching XD

L460[06:42:03] <abab9579> It seems that your depth is always -1, 0 or 1. Is it correct?

L461[06:42:35] <sham1> Yes, all my vertices have the depth of -1

L462[06:42:35] <gigaherz> anyone russian?

L463[06:42:36] <gigaherz> https://twitter.com/wwaibochi/status/748546409184567296

L464[06:42:43] <gigaherz> is this actually readable to russian people? XD

L465[06:43:04] <sham1> When is cursive readable for anyone :P

L466[06:43:30] <gigaherz> well... uhm... you got a point there

L467[06:43:43] <Tazz> wtf

L468[06:43:44] <abab9579> But only depth value between 0 and 1 exclusively are supposed to be rendered.

L469[06:43:57] <Tazz> I know some russian but that is like holy fuckl

L470[06:43:57] <Tazz> XD

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L473[06:44:59] <sham1> I thought that the native device space was [-1, 1]

L474[06:45:10] <sham1> So from -1 to 1 inclusive

L475[06:45:16] <gigaherz> uh you define the actual limits through the near and far planes

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L477[06:45:34] <gigaherz> and those get adjusted to like 0..1 or -1..1 depending on if you use opengl or directx ;P

L478[06:46:29] <abab9579> gigaher.z, far/near settings are reflected on projection matrix on OpenGL.

L479[06:46:40] <sham1> I have no projection matrix yet so I cannot set near and far planes

L480[06:47:11] <gigaherz> abab9579: yes

L481[06:47:12] <gigaherz> same on dx

L482[06:47:16] <gigaherz> after matrix transform

L483[06:47:25] <gigaherz> the coords should be 0..1 or 0..-1

L484[06:47:33] <gigaherz> sham1: uhhh

L485[06:47:42] <gigaherz> you should at least get an orthographic matrix

L486[06:47:59] <sham1> I might as well make a projection matrix then

L487[06:48:06] <gigaherz> for all you know it may choose a random projection matrix if you don't specify one

L488[06:48:07] <gigaherz> XD

L489[06:48:17] <sham1> Would OpenGL do that?

L490[06:48:22] <sham1> Actually, it probably would

L491[06:48:23] <gigaherz> probably not

L492[06:48:28] <gigaherz> but we don't know what the standard is

L493[06:48:38] <gigaherz> it could even change between devices, or between driver versions

L494[06:48:49] <gigaherz> generally the idea is, to be safe, initialize everything.

L495[06:49:22] <abab9579> Yes OpenGL has (-1,1) by default, I was wrong with that.

L496[06:50:05] <abab9579> + Yes it is safer to use projection matrix, as gigaher.z said.

L497[06:50:48] <sham1> All right

L498[06:50:55] <sham1> Time to make a thing that creates one for me

L499[06:51:37] <abab9579> Projection matrix is given to Shader as parameter, so why dont you just apply it?

L500[06:51:51] <abab9579> Then your matrix input will be modelview matrix.

L501[06:52:04] <sham1> Is it?

L502[06:52:36] <abab9579> projectionMatrix * modelViewMatrix * vertex

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L504[06:53:12] <abab9579> This is the default transformation.

L505[06:53:30] <abab9579> You can use your matrix instead of modelViewMatrix.. wait

L506[06:54:03] <abab9579> GLSL 400 does not have projection matrix parameter by default.

L507[06:54:10] <sham1> ye

L508[06:54:53] <gigaherz> not that it matters, you can ignore all the default matrix stuff

L509[06:55:01] <gigaherz> and just provide some custom shader parameters on your own

L510[06:55:06] <gigaherz> a-la DirectX

L511[06:55:21] <sham1> And modern OpenGL

L512[06:55:35] <sham1> Let me write a projection matrix thing real quick

L513[06:55:37] <abab9579> So projection matrix should be gotten by glGet..

L514[06:55:56] <gigaherz> however yo uwould need a vector library for that

L515[06:56:08] <gigaherz> something that can build the matrix and pass it over to the gl shader parameter setter

L516[06:56:25] <sham1> Well, I do happen to have a vector thing

L517[06:56:53] <gigaherz> I used a little one called SVL back in the day

L518[06:58:07] <gigaherz> (Simple Vector Library)

L519[06:58:13] <gigaherz> but there's plenty others

L520[06:58:29] <sham1> I should be using GLM, but NIH

L521[06:58:59] <abab9579> Well its pretty easy to write one by oneself

L522[06:59:05] <sham1> Yeah

L523[06:59:28] <abab9579> If it is not about whole linear algebra

L524[06:59:38] <gigaherz> yeah but writing the createPerspectiveMatrix and createOrthographicMatrix

L525[06:59:41] <gigaherz> are the annoying bits

L526[06:59:41] <sham1> The most I stuggled with when doing my minimalistic math thing was matrix multiplication

L527[06:59:45] <gigaherz> where having a library is good

L528[06:59:46] <gigaherz> ;p

L529[07:00:40] <sham1> Because matrix multiplication

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L536[07:15:10] <sham1> I think I should initialize my matrix data with all zeroes

L537[07:15:13] <sham1> That might also help

L538[07:17:25] <gigaherz> uhh, you should probably initialize with an identity matrix ;P

L539[07:17:39] <sham1> Probably

L540[07:17:59] <sham1> I feel so dumb now

L541[07:18:12] <sham1> My matrix data was garbage because the data was never initialized

L542[07:18:22] <sham1> Only certain parts were actually set to sane values

L543[07:18:26] <sham1> All the others were BS

L544[07:18:27] <gigaherz> lol+

L545[07:18:30] <gigaherz> -+

L546[07:18:51] <sham1> I did say that my Matrix class might have been borked

L547[07:18:57] <sham1> And it was

L548[07:19:14] <sham1> Well, at least I made myself a little projection matrix function

L549[07:20:54] <sham1> Now it works constantly because the matrices are initialized to be all sane

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L554[07:28:16] <sham1> Well, somewhat sane

L555[07:30:25] <Kopharex> What's the meta value in "getItemModelMesher().register(item, meta, location)" for?

L556[07:30:36] <sham1> It is deprecated

L557[07:31:04] <Kopharex> So i can just put a 0 in there and not suffer any consequences?

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L560[07:31:19] <sham1> You don't use it

L561[07:31:53] <Kopharex> Okay

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L563[07:33:34] <Wuppy> that's interesting... when you install the 2k HD mod for skyrim, the game actually becomes uglier

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L565[07:33:42] <Wuppy> found out why, that mod doesn't have normal maps :V

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L578[07:51:16] <PaleoCrafter> Kopharex, just to clarify, sham1 refered to that particular method :P

L579[07:52:26] <PaleoCrafter> you want ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation

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L581[07:57:40] <gigaherz> side-note: if your item' hasSubTypes is set to true, you DO have to register every single subitem model explicitly

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L597[08:18:00] <MalkContent> what do forestry bees do?

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L600[08:18:53] <sham1> Produce honey

L601[08:18:58] <sham1> And other stuff

L602[08:22:41] <Chais> how can I straight up copy an existing block available in different materials?

L603[08:23:03] <sham1> What do you mean

L604[08:23:12] <Chais> I can't find anything specific in that direction. just on adding entirely new blocks

L605[08:24:03] <Chais> I want to add new doors. so I'd like to extend the BlockDoor class. and for starters a straight copy should be fine. just changing the name or something, but retaining the different materials

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L607[08:25:06] <Chais> and I can't get behind how to register the different materials and init the models

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L609[08:25:26] <sham1> Well your different materials could be properties

L610[08:29:09] <Chais> currently I'm trying to use the same mechanism that MC uses. don't know if that's a good idea though

L611[08:29:26] <sham1> Sheldom is

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L615[08:32:02] <Chais> so the actual material would become an additional constructor parameter?

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L617[08:32:55] <sham1> Maybe

L618[08:32:56] <sham1> Maybe

L619[08:33:27] <gigaherz> Chais: the wonder of programming: there's mroe than one way to achieve the same goal

L620[08:33:27] <gigaherz> ;p

L621[08:33:48] <Chais> but some are better than others

L622[08:33:53] <gigaherz> you can have a generic door

L623[08:34:03] <gigaherz> have multiple instances

L624[08:34:09] <gigaherz> no blockstates or anything

L625[08:34:20] <gigaherz> and just have different textures in the blockstates json file

L626[08:34:29] <gigaherz> OR

L627[08:34:38] <Chais> but how would I make a difference between them

L628[08:34:47] <gigaherz> they are different instances

L629[08:34:50] <Chais> how do I tell the game which texture to use

L630[08:34:53] <gigaherz> YourMod.doorMaterial1

L631[08:34:55] <gigaherz> YourMod.doorMaterial2

L632[08:34:56] <gigaherz> YourMod.doorMaterial3

L633[08:35:03] <gigaherz> you'd have them regitered separately

L634[08:35:07] <gigaherz> with different registry names

L635[08:35:10] <gigaherz> and different unlocalized names

L636[08:35:15] <gigaherz> just they'd reuse the same implementation

L637[08:35:28] <gigaherz> and since the blockstates filename is given by the registry name

L638[08:35:40] <gigaherz> each one would automatically reference a different blockstates file when placed in the ground

L639[08:35:46] <Chais> ah k

L640[08:35:54] <Chais> that's kinda the approach I wanted to go for

L641[08:35:59] <gigaherz> so all the extra work you'd have to do

L642[08:36:02] <gigaherz> is apply for an item model

L643[08:36:08] <gigaherz> with ModelLoader.setCustomMRL

L644[08:36:42] <Chais> can I reuse the mc assets directly or do I have to copy them?

L645[08:36:48] <gigaherz> you'll have to copy

L646[08:36:51] <Chais> ok

L647[08:37:00] <gigaherz> you can point to a vanilla model

L648[08:37:04] <gigaherz> from the blockstates

L649[08:37:12] <gigaherz> but the blockstates json itself -- you'll need to copy

L650[08:37:23] <Chais> I mean the textures

L651[08:37:44] <Chais> duh. the json references them

L652[08:37:50] <Chais> derp

L653[08:39:05] <Chais> but then the registration shouldn't be done in the block's constructor, right? because that would lead to re-registering every type for every instance

L654[08:39:56] <gigaherz> well

L655[08:40:01] <gigaherz> this is how I do my blocks:

L656[08:40:21] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/blocks/BlockRegistered.java

L657[08:40:24] <gigaherz> I have this base class

L658[08:40:29] <gigaherz> which gets the name from constructor

L659[08:40:54] <gigaherz> and then the blocks end up being registered like this:

L660[08:40:54] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/EnderRiftMod.java#L91

L661[08:48:00] <Chais> where do you define the BlockEnderRift class?

L662[08:48:14] <gigaherz> in rift/

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L664[08:48:43] <gigaherz> I'm in the middle of reorganizing the packages ;P

L665[08:51:17] <gigaherz> in fact, I just pushed it ;P

L666[08:51:33] <gigaherz> new links:

L667[08:51:34] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/common/BlockRegistered.java

L668[08:51:54] <gigaherz> hmm ah the other one didn't change

L669[08:51:55] <Chais> link is the same. just the content changed ^^

L670[08:52:09] <gigaherz> the BlockRegistered one did change:

L671[08:52:11] <gigaherz> ;P

L672[08:52:18] <gigaherz> it was un blocks/

L673[08:52:20] <gigaherz> now in common/

L674[08:52:27] <Chais> ah yup

L675[08:52:32] <gigaherz> I reduced the number of packages

L676[08:52:33] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift

L677[08:52:36] <gigaherz> it's now more manageable

L678[08:53:12] <gigaherz> unified "compatibility" and "integration" into "plugins"

L679[08:53:29] <gigaherz> moved the inventory network into automation/

L680[08:53:47] <gigaherz> moved the rift storage into rift/

L681[08:53:48] <gigaherz> ;p

L682[08:54:59] <Chais> one instance for all materials isn't sensible, is it?

L683[08:55:07] <gigaherz> nope

L684[08:55:16] <gigaherz> you'd need a TileEntity as backing storage for the material

L685[08:55:22] <gigaherz> since you already said the meta bits are full

L686[08:55:30] <gigaherz> it's an option, yes

L687[08:55:37] <Chais> or can I put it in the state?

L688[08:55:46] <gigaherz> the state is only virtual

L689[08:55:53] <gigaherz> it doesn't persist

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L691[08:56:08] <gigaherz> there's 3 sources of data from which the state is built:

L692[08:56:11] <gigaherz> 1. metadata,

L693[08:56:16] <gigaherz> 2. TileEntities,

L694[08:56:22] <gigaherz> 3. neighbouring blocks "context"

L695[08:56:49] <Chais> how does mc do it then?

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L697[08:56:57] <gigaherz> they have one instance per door.

L698[08:57:43] <Chais> ah. and store the material just via the unlocalizedName, right?

L699[08:57:54] <gigaherz> no

L700[08:57:57] <gigaherz> via the registry name

L701[08:58:01] <Chais> or that

L702[08:58:13] <gigaherz> the unlocalized name is ONLY for the translation string when you hold the object as an item

L703[08:58:31] <Chais> but it tends to be the same as the registry name

L704[08:59:01] <gigaherz> yes

L705[08:59:04] <gigaherz> but you shouldn't get confused

L706[08:59:09] <gigaherz> they have different uses

L707[08:59:11] <gigaherz> different semantics

L708[08:59:12] <Chais> yup

L709[08:59:20] <gigaherz> and anyone using unlocalized name for any other purpose than translations

L710[08:59:22] <gigaherz> is doing it wrong

L711[08:59:32] <gigaherz> which sadly happens WAY too often in tutorials and such

L712[09:00:37] <Chais> I can imagine.

L713[09:00:50] <gigaherz> haven't you come across the ugly and horrible

L714[09:01:06] <gigaherz> "GameRegistry.registerBlock(theBlock.getUnlocalizedName().substring(5)"?

L715[09:01:17] <Chais> I don't think so

L716[09:01:29] <KnightMiner> No, please don't remind me

L717[09:01:38] <gigaherz> well

L718[09:01:52] <gigaherz> that's one of the worst "bad examples" that tutorials have an habit to give

L719[09:02:08] <KnightMiner> I have used Minetweaker excessively and it is terrible when people use the unlocalized name there

L720[09:02:09] <gigaherz> also

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L722[09:02:29] <gigaherz> a lot of tutorials don't explain that unlocalized names are NOT domain-aware

L723[09:02:39] <gigaherz> if two mods have "item.rock.name"

L724[09:02:44] <gigaherz> one of them will overwrite the other

L725[09:02:46] <gigaherz> and you can't tell which

L726[09:03:01] <gigaherz> so it's a very important rule to include your modid in the unlocalized names

L727[09:03:32] <Chais> btw I saw you using MODID+registryName, isn't that kinda redundant? I mean doesn't get each mod its own 'namespace' in the form of MODID:

L728[09:03:50] <gigaherz> for registration names, yes

L729[09:03:53] <gigaherz> but NOT for translations

L730[09:03:56] <Chais> ah ok

L731[09:04:03] <gigaherz> which I just mentioned above ;P

L732[09:04:13] <Chais> yea just saw after I sent it ^^

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L734[09:13:40] <Chais> gigaherz: I just noticed that if I ever submitted a pull request to the repo it'd be huge

L735[09:13:52] <Chais> like every single class

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L737[09:16:56] <gigaherz> Chais: wat?

L738[09:17:08] <Chais> you open all your braces on the wrong lines xD

L739[09:17:17] <gigaherz> no I open them on the proper line

L740[09:17:22] <gigaherz> ;p

L741[09:17:37] <gigaherz> having the brace on the next line is better for readability

L742[09:17:44] <Chais> I don't think so

L743[09:17:52] <gigaherz> it helps delimit the block start and end

L744[09:18:01] <gigaherz> without having to look to the right

L745[09:18:38] <Chais> why would you need to? the block starts where indentation starts.

L746[09:18:39] <gigaherz> hoinestly, I prefer them that way because I'm used to it

L747[09:18:43] <gigaherz> from C, C++, and C#

L748[09:18:57] <gigaherz> Java is the only one doing it differently ;P

L749[09:19:11] <Chais> I do it that way on C too :D

L750[09:19:15] <gigaherz> but then after I decided to also use that brace style in Java

L751[09:19:23] <gigaherz> I actually saw a video that epxlained WHY it's better

L752[09:20:14] <sham1> why is it

L753[09:20:21] <gigaherz> I dont' remember the exact reasons

L754[09:20:26] <gigaherz> and I have no idea what the video was

L755[09:20:32] <gigaherz> as I said, I just do it because I'm used to it.

L756[09:20:59] <gigaherz> I remember the video spoke about readability

L757[09:21:06] <gigaherz> things like aligning function arguments

L758[09:21:26] <gigaherz> about how allowing lines to become too long is bad because you never read that far right

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L760[09:21:46] <gigaherz> but there were some reason in favor of having the braces on the next line

L761[09:23:39] <PaleoCrafter> probably that talk by Kevlin Henney?

L762[09:25:22] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyyFKHpzL0Q

L763[09:25:25] <gigaherz> yeah I think it was this one

L764[09:25:32] <gigaherz> just on another page

L765[09:26:22] <PaleoCrafter> InfoQ

L766[09:26:25] <PaleoCrafter> I usually link it :P

L767[09:26:39] <gigaherz> yep

L768[09:26:39] <gigaherz> https://www.infoq.com/presentations/7-ineffective-coding-habits

L769[09:29:08] <diesieben07> that is a horrible talk :D

L770[09:29:23] <gigaherz> noway

L771[09:29:36] <diesieben07> norway?

L772[09:30:12] <gigaherz> Now, ay

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L774[09:30:18] <plathrop> I've heard a lot of people come up with some very convincing-sounding reasons why their formatting is objectively better, but I remain unconvinced. Formatting doesn't matter all that much outside of being consistent within a given project or group of developers.

L775[09:30:28] <diesieben07> ^

L776[09:30:44] <gigaherz> plathrop: I wholeheartedly agree with consistency being above anything else

L777[09:30:52] <gigaherz> but given the choice, I will always put the opening brace on the next line.

L778[09:31:01] * diesieben07 slaps gigaherz

L779[09:31:18] <plathrop> That's cool, I just won't agree it's objectively better :-)

L780[09:31:25] <plathrop> I actually prefer that style too

L781[09:32:03] <diesieben07> Egyptian Brackets ftw

L782[09:32:05] <plathrop> But I've closed PRs with prejudice at work that reformat code to my preferred style; because it is inconsistent with a large body of established code.

L783[09:32:16] <Chais> sorry I've started this xD

L784[09:32:30] <plathrop> haha

L785[09:32:44] <plathrop> Nah, I got no beef. I just like blathering about style.

L786[09:32:52] <Chais> same :D

L787[09:33:11] <plathrop> Because I used to be a style dictator and then one day I was like "does this actually matter" and realized I didn't believe it did anymore.

L788[09:33:28] <plathrop> Part of me constantly looks for reasons to go back to it, though

L789[09:33:34] <Chais> so to bring us kinda back on topic, I assume ItemBlock creates an item from a block?

L790[09:33:44] <diesieben07> ItemBlock just is the item form ofa block

L791[09:33:49] <diesieben07> a block can ONLY exist placed down in the world

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L793[09:34:01] <diesieben07> if it drops, thats an ItemBlock

L794[09:34:23] <Chais> so I don't need this if I supply the item to a block myself

L795[09:34:39] <Chais> e.g. because it isn't block shaped

L796[09:34:52] <diesieben07> just alter the model for the ItemBlock

L797[09:34:59] <diesieben07> no need for a separate item

L798[09:35:14] <diesieben07> tehn you have a much easier time because you dont have to re-implement all the logic (e.g. placing)

L799[09:35:42] <diesieben07> and if oyu need other custom behavior on the item, just make a custom ItemBlock

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L801[09:38:04] <diesieben07> some people... :O http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/topic,39890.msg212093.html#msg212093

L802[09:38:08] <PaleoCrafter> diesieben07, the talk's not just formatting :P

L803[09:38:21] <diesieben07> i know. i watched it, its mostly bullshit :D

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L805[09:39:27] <masa> private EventPriority phase = null;

L806[09:39:29] <masa> wut

L807[09:39:37] <PaleoCrafter> why would anybody ever use their own handwriting as font

L808[09:39:43] <diesieben07> i have no idea.

L809[09:39:59] <gigaherz> I remember some app from the 90s

L810[09:40:00] <PaleoCrafter> I can't even read mine half the time xD

L811[09:40:09] <diesieben07> probably because they are a narcissist?

L812[09:40:10] <gigaherz> which was supposedto scan your handwriting and convert it into a font

L813[09:40:23] <gigaherz> I'm left-handed

L814[09:40:28] <gigaherz> my handwriting is bad by definition

L815[09:40:29] <gigaherz> ;P

L816[09:40:50] <gigaherz> I'm lazy, which makes it worse, but just being left-handed already puts me on a disadvantage

L817[09:41:05] <sham1> That text

L818[09:41:06] <sham1> My god

L819[09:41:10] <diesieben07> well, in the western LTR world, yes :P

L820[09:41:15] <diesieben07> in RTL you would be in the advantage

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L822[09:41:34] <sham1> Handwriting as a font :O

L823[09:41:35] <sham1> Why

L824[09:42:06] <PaleoCrafter> the real problem is: it ain't monospace

L825[09:42:10] <gigaherz> narcissism.

L826[09:42:17] <gigaherz> if you are using it to write letters

L827[09:42:18] <gigaherz> sure

L828[09:42:28] <gigaherz> if you are using it to make a webcomic, sure

L829[09:42:30] <gigaherz> but for CODING?!

L830[09:42:39] <gigaherz> coding fonts are supposed to be easy to read

L831[09:42:40] <gigaherz> clean

L832[09:42:41] <gigaherz> clear

L833[09:42:45] <gigaherz> monospace

L834[09:42:57] <gigaherz> to reduce the burden on the eyes

L835[09:43:02] <diesieben07> i should send them a screenshot of this chat haha

L836[09:43:06] <gigaherz> and allow for more effective aligning

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L838[09:44:30] <PaleoCrafter> googled "Comic Sans Mono", got this: https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans

L839[09:44:32] <Ordinastie_> diesieben07, omg that font *_*

L840[09:44:34] <PaleoCrafter> actually looks pretty nice

L841[09:47:29] <sham1> You should diesieb

L842[09:49:26] <sham1> Got perspective matrix to work

L843[09:49:32] <sham1> Now to try and make camera to work

L844[09:51:03] <gigaherz> yeah that font is relatively nice

L845[09:51:10] <gigaherz> but it's not REALLY comic sans

L846[09:51:18] <gigaherz> it's more like a lucida/dejavu

L847[09:51:48] <gigaherz> it IS rounder, but it doesn't have the "childish" feel of comic sans

L848[09:52:31] <sham1> Hmm, one has to multiply cameraMatrix * projectionMatrix instead of other way around

L849[09:52:34] <sham1> Interesting

L850[09:53:01] <Chais> sham1: all depends on how you build your projection matrix

L851[09:53:27] <Chais> 3d transformations are very sensitive to order of operations and order of operands

L852[09:53:56] <sham1> Well, the thing is that matrix multiplication that is used in 3d stuff

L853[09:54:22] <sham1> Is not commutative

L854[09:54:30] <sham1> That's why the order matters

L855[09:54:53] <sham1> Eg. A*B =/= B*A

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L857[09:56:30] <gigaherz> there's different kinds of matrices

L858[09:56:34] <gigaherz> row-major, column-major

L859[09:56:38] <gigaherz> they multiply differently

L860[09:57:06] <sham1> Well, if one of the matrices in my example were an identity matrix, then A*B == B*A

L861[09:57:09] <abab9579> Row/Column major..? m>n..?

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L863[09:57:24] <gigaherz> no the idea is what you consider the input of the matrix

L864[09:57:34] <gigaherz> do you input the values from the left, and get a result at the top

L865[09:57:36] <gigaherz> or input on the top

L866[09:57:41] <gigaherz> and get the results on the left?

L867[09:57:46] <gigaherz> (or right)

L868[09:57:47] <abab9579> Ah as transformation.

L869[09:57:55] <gigaherz> or also

L870[09:58:52] <abab9579> Some thought; (Ax)^T=(x^T)(A^T)

L871[09:58:57] <gigaherz> is your vector a row? or a column?

L872[09:59:11] <gigaherz> also

L873[09:59:37] <gigaherz> (A*B)^T = (B^T)*(A^T)

L874[10:00:13] <gigaherz> wait that's the same that you said

L875[10:00:14] <gigaherz> XD

L876[10:00:25] <gigaherz> in the end, it's a matter of how the matrices are built vs how you use them

L877[10:00:29] <Naiten> If choosing MCF verison, do i go for 1.10.2 or just 1.10?

L878[10:00:48] <sham1> Just go to 1.10.2

L879[10:00:55] * Naiten was out of modding for so long

L880[10:01:07] <gigaherz> .2

L881[10:01:12] <gigaherz> there's absolutely no reason to use .0

L882[10:01:26] <gigaherz> the update was too quick

L883[10:01:33] <abab9579> Thats why I like matrices.

L884[10:01:34] <gigaherz> we didn't have time to mark mods as 1.10, that 1.10.2 forge was out

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L887[10:04:08] <gigaherz> also, 1.9.4 mods often work on 1.10.2 without changes

L888[10:04:11] <gigaherz> there's exceptions, ofc

L889[10:04:18] <gigaherz> specially anything with coremods will probably fail

L890[10:04:26] <gigaherz> but all 5 of my mods work just as-is

L891[10:04:28] <gigaherz> same jar

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L893[10:04:57] <gigaherz> OH!

L894[10:05:05] <gigaherz> Curseforge now has 1.10.2 on the list of versions!!

L895[10:05:26] * gigaherz goes update his latest releases

L896[10:09:01] <masa> woooo my new modprototype works

L897[10:09:12] <masa> https://youtu.be/uSpJUt_nUHQ

L898[10:13:13] <PaleoCrafter> needs orientation support :P

L899[10:13:18] <PaleoCrafter> (for the chest, that is)

L900[10:13:23] <masa> yes

L901[10:13:46] <masa> I was actually surprised the chest renders anything...

L902[10:13:53] <masa> aren't they TESRs?

L903[10:14:15] <PaleoCrafter> they are

L904[10:14:23] <sham1> I hope that will not stay long

L905[10:14:38] <sham1> But masa, that's pretty nice prototype

L906[10:15:04] <sham1> I can see it being very useful to builders

L907[10:15:17] <masa> that's the first version that doesn't crash on load, so it works pretty nicely already considering that :D

L908[10:15:25] <kashike> I thought someone else in here, or maybe it was masa too, made the same thing as a prototype already?

L909[10:15:32] <masa> oh?

L910[10:15:43] <masa> hm, well wated effort then? ;D

L911[10:15:46] <masa> +s

L912[10:15:54] <kashike> few months ago someone showed the same thing iirc

L913[10:15:57] <kashike> I'll try to find it

L914[10:16:03] <masa> okay, thanks

L915[10:16:15] <masa> brb...

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L917[10:18:37] <Elucent> i'm trying to render a simple quad in the GameOverlayEvent

L918[10:18:46] <Elucent> but it's not showing up no matter what i've tried

L919[10:18:49] <Elucent> http://pastebin.com/tnBXHDrg

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L926[10:37:45] <kashike> masa: found it

L927[10:37:48] <kashike> 2016-03-27 20:43:52 FusionLord thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvOtRpxNoQA&feature=youtu.be 1080p60FPS is processing

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L929[10:39:37] <MattDahEpic> will 1.9 mods which work on 1.10.0 work on 1.10.2?

L930[10:39:53] <kashike> more than likely.

L931[10:40:48] <MattDahEpic> and will native 1.10.0 mods work on 1.10.2?

L932[10:41:00] <MattDahEpic> (probably)

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L935[10:43:33] <Flaeme> Ugh, localization is confounding me @.@

L936[10:43:49] <diesieben07> what's confusing about it?

L937[10:44:29] <Flaeme> I have a block, that extends BlockColored, that I need to set names for

L938[10:44:40] <Flaeme> I don't understand how vanilla manages to do it with wool

L939[10:44:57] <Flaeme> I only seem to get a single unlocalized name

L940[10:45:08] <Flaeme> And I shouldn't be doing anything breaking...

L941[10:45:29] <diesieben07> you need a custom ItemBlock

L942[10:45:36] <diesieben07> blocks don't have unlocalized names, only items

L943[10:45:48] <diesieben07> vanilla wool uses ItemCloth

L944[10:46:37] <Flaeme> I... no, blocks do have Unlocalized names, pretty sure? But thanks, I see now what to do I think

L945[10:47:06] <diesieben07> No, they don't :D

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L949[10:47:56] <Flaeme> Then what does Block.setUnlocalizedName do? :P

L950[10:47:58] <Flaeme> >.>

L951[10:48:08] <Flaeme> They clearly exist

L952[10:48:09] <MattDahEpic> sets the name that the item gets

L953[10:48:17] <Flaeme> even if vanilla doesn't use them

L954[10:48:19] <MattDahEpic> look at ItemBlock

L955[10:48:41] <MattDahEpic> it sets it's name to the block's name

L956[10:48:58] <MattDahEpic> the block's name isnt used for display, bu the item's is

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L958[10:49:59] <sham1> Hmm, somehow I managed to make my camera turn when pressing a or d instead of strafing

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L962[10:52:02] <Xilef11> would ticksExisted%rand.nextInt(average_delay)==0 be a sensible thing to check to get a random delay between ticks?

L963[10:58:35] <diesieben07> certainly looks like it, but i am not quite sure :D

L964[10:58:58] <diesieben07> although actually i dont think so

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L966[11:03:25] <Xilef11> my theory was that there is a 1/average_delay chance for that to be true on a given tick

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L969[11:04:37] <diesieben07> the problem with that is i think that there are for example more numbers divisible by 2 than say 7, right?

L970[11:04:59] <Xilef11> yes

L971[11:05:20] <Flaeme> I figured out what I wanted, I was using ItemColored already and just had to call .setSubtypeNames with an appropriate array and then the rest was done for me, yay

L972[11:06:14] <diesieben07> also first of all nextInt can produce 0, which would throw because division by 0

L973[11:06:29] <Xilef11> I guess I could also do ticksExisted==rand.nextint(delay) and reset ticksExisted when it works

L974[11:06:58] <diesieben07> but modifying ticksExisted might not be a good idea

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L977[11:08:25] <Xilef11> well, I can name it otherwise

L978[11:08:48] <MushroomDynamo> Does anyone have a decent explanation for what the "type" is for NBTTagCompound.getTagList(String key, int type)?

L979[11:08:50] <Flaeme> Probably your best bet is doing something like having a nextTick and whenever you tick set nextTick to ticksExisted + ((Int)rand.nextGaussian()*delay)

L980[11:08:57] <diesieben07> just make a 2nd field, set it to rand.nextInt(delay) and count down until you reach 0

L981[11:09:00] <diesieben07> rinse and repeat

L982[11:09:04] <MushroomDynamo> Looking at the source I get that the key is the name of the nbt tag I'm saving data under but I can't figure out what the type is for

L983[11:09:17] <diesieben07> MushroomDynamo, Constants.NBT has all the types

L984[11:09:24] <MushroomDynamo> Thanks! I'll look there

L985[11:09:28] <diesieben07> its the type of nbt tag in the list (e.g. String, Int, etc.)

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L991[11:27:50] <Flaeme> Is it just me or all the displayed bounding boxes too large, at least in 1.10.2?

L992[11:28:59] <Flaeme> It even happens with vanila blocks- you can see the bounding box when looking at the pink wool is drawn too large, overlapping on the green/gray wool and my block below https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HSQFDpZD/2016-07-01_10.26.57.png

L993[11:30:09] <diesieben07> i think that has always been the case hasnt it

L994[11:36:22] <gigaherz> yeah it has always been a tiny little bit on the outside

L995[11:36:26] <gigaherz> so that there's no z-fighting

L996[11:40:31] <gigaherz> Flaeme: the block's unlocalized name is only called by ItemBlock, for when they are in item form

L997[11:40:36] <gigaherz> oops I was scrolled up

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L1005[11:51:18] <elan_oots> Protip: Make sure you actually register your block after you make it

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L1012[12:12:13] <Nitrodev> so modded 1.10 is a ting?

L1013[12:13:11] <Chais> why shouldn't it be?

L1014[12:13:35] <Chais> the 1.9.4 - 1.10 transition seems to be pretty smooth too

L1015[12:16:23] <MushroomDynamo> writing a mod for 1.10.2 right now ^^

L1016[12:18:08] <MushroomDynamo> feels weird to say that, though, that forge is so up to date with vanilla

L1017[12:18:30] <MushroomDynamo> granted that "1.9.4 mods usually work on 1.10 forge" loader stuff is some pretty spooky, if much appreciated magic

L1018[12:19:21] <diesieben07> SRG names are not magic :p

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L1022[12:33:08] <Otho> Hello, is it possible to have a mod working with multiple minecraft/forge versions?

L1023[12:33:45] <sham1> very possible

L1024[12:34:31] <McJty> Well many mods for 1.9.4 work for 1.10. But that's a rare case

L1025[12:34:41] <sham1> Oh, before I forget

L1026[12:34:45] * sham1 slaps McJty

L1027[12:34:57] <sham1> Your tutorial is teaching bad habits

L1028[12:34:59] <McJty> I've seen you do that before. What for exactly?

L1029[12:35:02] <McJty> What part of it?

L1030[12:35:30] <sham1> Well for one, you demonstrate the fact that you can leave out the clientSide and serverSide for @SidedProxy

L1031[12:35:38] <sham1> Thus having them be inner classes

L1032[12:35:59] <sham1> That defeats the point of a proxy

L1033[12:36:43] <McJty> Sorry but I don't get that

L1034[12:37:03] <sham1> Class loading

L1035[12:37:08] <McJty> yes?

L1036[12:37:24] <sham1> If you do stuff in an inner class, it has to load the classes for them

L1037[12:37:49] <sham1> And if you do client-side stuff in the dedicated server, it will crash

L1038[12:37:59] <sham1> Now, lets try to add 2 and 2 together

L1039[12:38:56] <sham1> Are you starting to see the problem

L1040[12:39:23] <McJty> Well yes

L1041[12:39:28] <McJty> But it is a choice you have

L1042[12:39:37] <McJty> You can do that method and *still* have it work on a server correctly

L1043[12:39:54] <McJty> Provided you make sure the client side dependencies are done else where

L1044[12:40:08] <sham1> Indeed

L1045[12:40:08] <gigaherz> [19:33] (Otho): Hello, is it possible to have a mod working with multiple minecraft/forge versions?

L1046[12:40:08] <McJty> In general proxies should not contain a lot of code anyway IMHO

L1047[12:40:18] <gigaherz> some people have tried to make some sort of abstraction layer / coremod

L1048[12:40:23] <gigaherz> that injects the right files based on version

L1049[12:40:28] <gigaherz> but it's an horrible horrible hack

L1050[12:41:00] <gigaherz> 1.8.8 -> 1.8.9, 1.9.4->1.10->1.10.2 are nice cases that don't happen often

L1051[12:42:30] <Otho> gigaherz, didn't like that hack

L1052[12:43:11] <Otho> I am just thinking about keeping the mod updated for 1.7.0 alongside 1.8.9

L1053[12:43:37] <gigaherz> probably not worth it

L1054[12:43:46] <McJty> 1.7.10 should die. 1.8.9 to 1.9.4/1.10 is not a big job so why not make the jump?

L1055[12:43:52] <kashike> ^^^

L1056[12:43:53] <McJty> There is no reason to stay on the older versions IMHO

L1057[12:43:58] <gigaherz> I have been maintaining 1.8.9,1.9 and 1.9.4 for a while

L1058[12:44:04] <gigaherz> but 1.8.9 too, is over

L1059[12:44:09] <sham1> Except if the person is just too stubborn to jump

L1060[12:44:16] <sham1> In which case it is their problem

L1061[12:44:17] <gigaherz> I now only maintain 1.9.4+1.10+1.10.2, which is one jar ;Pç

L1062[12:44:19] <gigaherz> -ç

L1063[12:44:23] <gigaherz> yeah

L1064[12:44:29] <gigaherz> I'd accept PRs for older versiopns

L1065[12:44:34] <Otho> I was curious about the possibility. Don't think it is worth it

L1066[12:44:34] <gigaherz> but not bother writing any code for them

L1067[12:44:59] <McJty> gigaherz, for most of my mods it is also one jar except unfortunatelly for rftools

L1068[12:45:08] <gigaherz> heh

L1069[12:45:14] <gigaherz> what did you do that doesn't transfer?

L1070[12:45:20] <gigaherz> jsut curious what did change

L1071[12:45:32] <McJty> gigaherz, use skeleton.getSkeletonType()

L1072[12:45:35] <McJty> Which changed from int to an enum

L1073[12:45:42] <gigaherz> aha

L1074[12:45:56] <McJty> It is such a minor thing

L1075[12:45:59] <McJty> But it breaks the entire mod

L1076[12:46:04] <gigaherz> yeah, sucks

L1077[12:46:27] <sham1> Well, that's what people get for not having their enums intrinsicly be integers

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L1079[12:46:32] <sham1> \s

L1080[12:46:52] <gigaherz> nah it would still fail

L1081[12:46:55] <McJty> Well it was not my enum :-)

L1082[12:46:56] <gigaherz> since the returned type wouldn't match

L1083[12:47:05] <McJty> and indeed

L1084[12:47:12] <gigaherz> you'd ALSO need dynamic binding

L1085[12:47:21] <sham1> I was more talking about java enums in general, and I did have /s there

L1086[12:47:22] <gigaherz> but then we'd be talking about a different langauge altogether

L1087[12:47:26] <kashike> a way to probably get by that is to get it by reflection. try enum and get ID from it. catch exception and use old method?

L1088[12:47:29] * kashike yawns

L1089[12:47:38] <McJty> kashike, no because it doesn't compile

L1090[12:47:39] <gigaherz> kashike: that requires a rebuild ;p

L1091[12:47:48] <McJty> I mean the enum doesn't exist on 1.9.4

L1092[12:47:58] <sokratis12GR> how I can check if the player was Struck by lightning ?

L1093[12:48:01] <McJty> And on 1.10 the method that returns int doesn't exist

L1094[12:48:14] <sham1> sokratis12GR: have an event handler for damage

L1095[12:48:17] <kashike> "try enum and get ID from it"

L1096[12:48:22] <sham1> Check if the damage type was lightning

L1097[12:48:26] <sokratis12GR> ok

L1098[12:48:27] <sham1> Do what you need to do

L1099[12:48:31] <McJty> kashike, I cannot compile the code to try an enum and get ID from it

L1100[12:48:40] <gigaherz> McJty: you could?

L1101[12:48:42] <kashike> yes you can :P

L1102[12:48:47] <gigaherz> using reflection, that is

L1103[12:48:48] <McJty> Well on 1.10 yes

L1104[12:48:53] <McJty> But how would that code work on 1.9.4?

L1105[12:48:54] <kashike> and 1.9.4

L1106[12:48:58] <gigaherz> oh wait

L1107[12:48:58] <gigaherz> right

L1108[12:49:01] <gigaherz> you need enumType.class

L1109[12:49:03] <McJty> It can't work

L1110[12:49:06] <gigaherz> for querying

L1111[12:49:08] <gigaherz> hmmm

L1112[12:49:09] <sham1> Or Class.forName

L1113[12:49:10] <kashike> class. forname

L1114[12:49:16] <gigaherz> ah ofc

L1115[12:49:21] <kashike> it would work fine

L1116[12:49:22] <gigaherz> Class.forName("EnumType")

L1117[12:49:23] <gigaherz> XD

L1118[12:49:23] <kashike> just ugly

L1119[12:49:29] <gigaherz> fugly

L1120[12:49:35] <sham1> Uglyness is not a bad thing tbh

L1121[12:49:48] <sham1> If it works, it works

L1122[12:50:06] <gigaherz> yeah if it's the ONLY thing preventing it form working on both at the same time

L1123[12:50:10] <gigaherz> it MAY be worth considering ;P

L1124[12:50:22] <McJty> I'm not sure I totally getting the solution though

L1125[12:50:31] <McJty> And making sure it works obfuscated and not

L1126[12:50:39] <sham1> Meanwhile, I am doing some vector mathematics

L1127[12:50:45] <sham1> TO get my camera to work

L1128[12:50:48] <kashike> I'd write it for you if I wasn't in bed

L1129[12:50:52] <sham1> Nah

L1130[12:50:54] <kashike> maybe Gigaherz can explain

L1131[12:51:06] <McJty> Anyway, it is too late now as I actually support the new skeleton type in the 1.10 version

L1132[12:51:09] <sham1> I found a nice piece of documentation about it from msdn of all places

L1133[12:51:12] <McJty> So I would have to do a lot more right now

L1134[12:51:25] <MushroomDynamo> McJty: while you're here: thanks so much for writing those mod tutorials, they really helped me get off the ground with basic Forge stuff ^^

L1135[12:51:31] <McJty> np

L1136[12:51:41] <McJty> But according to sham1 be careful with your sided proxies :-)

L1137[12:51:48] <McJty> I'll add some notes clarifying the dangers of that method

L1138[12:51:58] <sham1> It's for Direct3D but they do explain the matrix in a way that I can apply to OGL

L1139[12:52:01] <sham1> Well

L1140[12:52:11] <gigaherz> actually!

L1141[12:52:14] <Flaeme> How would I add other mods to my dev environment?

L1142[12:52:21] <gigaherz> you don't specify the return type on reflection do you

L1143[12:52:24] <Flaeme> Like if I wanted to optionally use the Chisel API

L1144[12:52:25] <gigaherz> only the input args?

L1145[12:52:28] <kashike> no giga

L1146[12:52:32] <kashike> returns object

L1147[12:52:34] <gigaherz> yeah

L1148[12:52:35] <gigaherz> so

L1149[12:52:41] <McJty> Flaeme, in 1.8.9 or later you just drop the normal mod in your mods folder

L1150[12:52:48] <gigaherz> findMethod("getSkeletonType", ...)

L1151[12:52:52] <McJty> In 1.7.10 you need the deobufscated version

L1152[12:52:53] <gigaherz> method.invoke();

L1153[12:52:56] <sham1> NcJty, what the fuck is this:

L1154[12:52:59] <sham1> http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Render_Block_Basic-1.9

L1155[12:53:06] <sham1> The first code sample

L1156[12:53:16] <McJty> yes?

L1157[12:53:47] <gigaherz> if(result.getClass().getName() == "EnumSkeletonType") number = <getEnumOrdinal>(result)

L1158[12:53:48] <sham1> For one, one should not be using @SideOnly for their own methods

L1159[12:53:56] <gigaherz> else number = (int)result;

L1160[12:54:12] <Tazz> Haha

L1161[12:54:26] <sham1> Second of all, classloading is going to bite the tutorial follower to their arse once their mod is at the dedicated server

L1162[12:54:27] <McJty> sham1, why not exactly? In this case it is clearly client side only

L1163[12:54:35] <McJty> sham1, how so?

L1164[12:54:52] <sham1> It still loads ModelLoader even if the only code using it is @SideOnly[3~

L1165[12:54:54] <Tazz> sham1 lol not sure if it's because I'm on my phone but like that code looks formatted shitty

L1166[12:55:01] <McJty> sham1, this technique I use in all my mods

L1167[12:55:08] <McJty> sham1, including rftools and mods that *are* on servers

L1168[12:55:16] <McJty> Works fine

L1169[12:55:56] <sham1> Unless FML is able to strip away the imports that are only used in @SideOnly blocks, that still is a style that should not be recommended

L1170[12:56:08] <McJty> imports are not a problem

L1171[12:56:12] <McJty> They don't do anything

L1172[12:56:27] <McJty> It is only when you start using and the class has to be loaded that it is a problem

L1173[12:56:33] <McJty> But an import doesn't load classes

L1174[12:56:41] <Tazz> ^^

L1175[12:56:59] <Tazz> Imports are just pseudo statements

L1176[12:57:13] <iari> does anyone knows a good fork of the modular force field system mod?

L1177[12:57:15] <sham1> There still is a reference to a given client class, which will still get loaded

L1178[12:57:18] <iari> or at least a similar one?

L1179[12:57:20] <Tazz> They literally just create entries in a table for reference lookups

L1180[12:57:30] <McJty> sham1, it surely doesn't. Otherwise none of my mods would work on a server

L1181[12:57:32] <Tazz> Actually no sham1

L1182[12:57:38] <sham1> Actually yess

L1183[12:57:48] <Tazz> Classes arent loaded till they are references

L1184[12:58:11] <McJty> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8619895/when-does-classloader-load-imports

L1185[12:58:12] <Tazz> Imports don't reference classes they just reference qualified names

L1186[12:58:17] <McJty> Exactly

L1187[12:58:25] <gigaherz> McJty: this is what I came up with: https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/100d790c544280cd75035ea86c31e349

L1188[12:58:54] <sham1> I still say that the style here should not be advocated

L1189[12:58:59] <McJty> gigaherz, will that work deobfuscated

L1190[12:59:03] <sham1> Just in case someone forgets the @SideOnly

L1191[12:59:04] <gigaherz> not as-is

L1192[12:59:07] <sham1> When copy-pasting

L1193[12:59:15] <gigaherz> all you need is to provide ReflectionHelper with all the possible names

L1194[12:59:17] <gigaherz> obf and deobf

L1195[12:59:26] <gigaherz> (srg and pretty, I mean)

L1196[12:59:36] <gigaherz> the class name should be constant

L1197[12:59:43] <gigaherz> since they are in the master mcp table

L1198[12:59:47] <gigaherz> rather than the pretty mappings

L1199[12:59:53] <Tazz> McJty rofl I honestly didn't know shit about the jvm class loader

L1200[13:00:05] <Tazz> But I know compilers :D

L1201[13:00:23] <gigaherz> !gm getSkeletonType 1.9.4

L1202[13:00:30] <gigaherz> !gm getSkeletonType 1.10

L1203[13:00:37] <Tazz> Well actually can't say that because like I have dealt with class loading before haja

L1204[13:00:58] <Tazz> But wasn't aware of how imports are handled in the jvm

L1205[13:01:24] <McJty> sham1, actually even the SideOnly is not strictly required. I like to add it to make it clear

L1206[13:01:37] <McJty> But I use Waila interfaces in my code and that even works if Waila is not present

L1207[13:01:43] <McJty> Because nothing is calling those methods

L1208[13:01:54] <Tazz> McJty really?

L1209[13:02:05] <gigaherz> Refresh: https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/100d790c544280cd75035ea86c31e349

L1210[13:02:08] <Tazz> That works? O_o

L1211[13:02:08] <sham1> They are probably called via reflection

L1212[13:02:23] <sham1> By WAILA that is

L1213[13:02:44] <McJty> hold on

L1214[13:02:56] <Tazz> Well you figure the vtable for the class would need the interface at runtime if it was compiled

L1215[13:03:03] <McJty> https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/1.10/src/main/java/mcjty/rftools/blocks/environmental/EnvironmentalControllerBlock.java

L1216[13:03:11] <McJty> There is public List<String> getWailaBody(ItemStack itemStack, List<String> currenttip, IWailaDataAccessor accessor, IWailaConfigHandler config) {

L1217[13:03:11] <McJty> there

L1218[13:03:13] <gigaherz> Tazz: the vtable is built on demand

L1219[13:03:17] <McJty> Which uses IWailaConfigHandler

L1220[13:03:18] <gigaherz> on first reference

L1221[13:03:23] <McJty> There is no @Optional there

L1222[13:03:25] <Tazz> Hmmm interesting

L1223[13:03:33] <gigaherz> so if a type isn't referenced at all

L1224[13:03:35] <McJty> But rftools works without WAILA in the mod list. I know it does. People have done that

L1225[13:03:35] <gigaherz> the class isn't loaded

L1226[13:03:39] <gigaherz> so the dependencies aren't resolved

L1227[13:03:56] <gigaherz> so the Waila plugins

L1228[13:04:02] <gigaherz> since WAILA gets the type as a STRING

L1229[13:04:05] <Tazz> Well yes but I figured since the class was compiled with an interface the interface would be required at runtime

L1230[13:04:07] <gigaherz> rather than as a Class

L1231[13:04:14] <gigaherz> Tazz: ONLY if it's referenced

L1232[13:04:18] <gigaherz> or more accurately

L1233[13:04:21] <gigaherz> only WHEN it's referenced

L1234[13:04:22] <McJty> Tazz, actually my blocks do not implement a Waila interface

L1235[13:04:29] <McJty> They have methods that use Waila api's

L1236[13:04:33] <Tazz> McJty oh haha

L1237[13:04:50] <Tazz> Gigaherz I know XD

L1238[13:04:52] <gigaherz> Tazz: https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/EnderRiftMod.java#L214

L1239[13:04:59] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/plugins/WailaProviders.java

L1240[13:05:05] <gigaherz> this is everything that WAILA involved

L1241[13:05:10] <gigaherz> the providers are separate classes

L1242[13:05:14] <gigaherz> and the other reference is a string

L1243[13:05:18] <gigaherz> so yeah no hard deps

L1244[13:05:28] <Tazz> Well I'm not aware of how waila works

L1245[13:05:31] <gigaherz> JEI is even more awesome

L1246[13:05:32] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/plugins/JEIPlugin.java

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L1248[13:05:47] <gigaherz> it scans for classes with that annotation

L1249[13:05:50] <gigaherz> and instantiates them

L1250[13:05:50] <gigaherz> ;P

L1251[13:06:01] <Tazz> However I was under the assumption a class was being loaded with a missing interface dependency

L1252[13:12:14] <Chais> I'm a bit confused I think I copied all assets from vanilla. I'm loading the model using Item.getItemFromBlock but I get an Exception from the VariantLoader

L1253[13:14:09] <gigaherz> full error text?

L1254[13:15:48] <Chais> Exception loading model for variant magiccastle:acacia_door#facing=west,half=upper,hinge=left,open=false,powered=true for blockstate "magiccastle:acacia_door[facing=west,half=upper,hinge=left,open=false,powered=true]"

L1255[13:15:49] <Chais> net.minecraftforge.client.model.ModelLoaderRegistry$LoaderException: Exception loading model magiccastle:acacia_door#facing=west,half=upper,hinge=left,open=false,powered=true with loader VariantLoader.INSTANCE, skipping

L1256[13:15:58] <Chais> followed by stacktrace

L1257[13:16:25] <McJty> Show your blockstate json

L1258[13:16:57] <Chais> it's the vanilla acacia_door.json

L1259[13:17:24] <McJty> That doesn't have a powered property

L1260[13:17:27] <McJty> So that cannot work

L1261[13:17:50] <Flaeme> I bet when vanilla loads it it ignores powered probably

L1262[13:18:03] <Flaeme> With whatever that thing is called

L1263[13:18:16] <Flaeme> and the door TE changes open depending on powered?

L1264[13:18:24] <Flaeme> IDK whoops

L1265[13:18:36] <Chais> vanilla doors aren't TEs

L1266[13:18:42] <McJty> yes vanilla uses getActualState()

L1267[13:21:01] <Chais> I'm extending BlockDoor so I thought I'd inherit that method

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L1269[13:21:22] <McJty> Not sure

L1270[13:22:14] <Flaeme> You need the thing that lets you ignore an IProperty in your blockstate, I think

L1271[13:22:27] <Flaeme> Like a different state loader or whatever it's called

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L1273[13:24:22] <Flaeme> Hmmmm.

L1274[13:24:34] <Flaeme> I have a feeling I need to somehow fix my build.gradle

L1275[13:24:55] <Flaeme> I've made dependency and source location changes

L1276[13:25:02] <Chais> gigaherz: any idea?

L1277[13:25:04] <Flaeme> and the gradle isn't reflecting that

L1278[13:25:36] <gigaherz> Chais: it's your block ,so you need a blockstates json

L1279[13:25:42] <gigaherz> doesn't matter if you reused a class from vanilla

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L1281[13:25:53] <gigaherz> vanilla hardcodes stuff, but you can't

L1282[13:25:54] <gigaherz> ;p

L1283[13:26:22] <gigaherz> wait I misunderstood I think

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L1285[13:26:28] <gigaherz> did you mean that you copied the vanilla json?

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L1287[13:26:58] <Chais> yup

L1288[13:27:18] <gigaherz> vanilla has a custom state mapper

L1289[13:27:23] <gigaherz> which ignores the powered property

L1290[13:27:33] <gigaherz> this.registerBlockWithStateMapper(Blocks.OAK_DOOR, (new StateMap.Builder()).ignore(new IProperty[] {BlockDoor.POWERED}).build());

L1291[13:27:52] <gigaherz> I don't know how to do the same for a mod block, though

L1292[13:27:54] <Xilef11> it annoys me that World#spawnParticle doesn't work on the server

L1293[13:27:56] <gigaherz> you'll have to ask someone else

L1294[13:31:48] <Xilef11> for the custom state mapper, maybe look at this https://github.com/Xilef11/Runes-of-Wizardry/blob/master/src/main/java/com/zpig333/runesofwizardry/proxy/ClientProxy.java#L84

L1295[13:32:18] <gigaherz> ah, ModelLoader.setCustomStateMapper

L1296[13:32:18] <gigaherz> XD

L1297[13:32:25] <gigaherz> that makes it easy, then

L1298[13:32:31] <gigaherz> sicne he doens't actually need to override anything

L1299[13:32:53] <Chais> so I can just call that during initModel()?

L1300[13:32:57] <Chais> neat

L1301[13:32:58] <gigaherz> ModelLoader.setCustomStateMapper(YOUR_DOOR, (new StateMap.Builder()).ignore(new IProperty[] {BlockDoor.POWERED}).build());

L1302[13:32:59] <gigaherz> yup

L1303[13:33:02] <masa> FusionLord: so that BlockHighLights mod, that isy our showcase of it, right?

L1304[13:33:22] <masa> did you ever finish it? didn't see anything on curseforge at least

L1305[13:33:24] <Chais> actually I'd have been surprised if nobody had tried to leverage that mechanism

L1306[13:34:53] <diesieben07> gigaherz, naughty, ignore is varags

L1307[13:35:06] <gigaherz> diesieben07: that's vanilla

L1308[13:35:11] <diesieben07> Hm?

L1309[13:35:14] <gigaherz> I copied from the Block registry

L1310[13:35:15] <diesieben07> also no need for those bravces

L1311[13:35:22] <diesieben07> well, naughty for copypasta then :P

L1312[13:35:25] <gigaherz> yeah

L1313[13:35:43] <gigaherz> hopefully Chais' IDE will tell him it's redundant

L1314[13:35:43] <gigaherz> ;p

L1315[13:35:57] <Chais> currently trying

L1316[13:36:21] <gigaherz> it also has an unneded opening paren

L1317[13:36:21] <gigaherz> ;P

L1318[13:38:00] <Chais> ModelLoader.setCustomStateMapper(this, new StateMap.Builder().ignore(BlockDoor.POWERED).build());

L1319[13:38:49] <gigaherz> :)

L1320[13:39:05] <gigaherz> I owuldn't have put that code inside the Block class

L1321[13:39:06] <gigaherz> but meh.

L1322[13:39:26] <Chais> the idea is that the block creates its own model

L1323[13:39:31] <Chais> dunno, kinda makes sense to me

L1324[13:39:39] <Chais> but I still get the exception

L1325[13:40:59] <Chais> so, it works like a door, it's untextured in block and item form and it's only one blocko high :D

L1326[13:41:47] <Chais> Imma step out for dinner. later. thanks for all your help gigaherz

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L1330[13:42:49] <Tazz> Ugh I forgot branching still doesn't work >.>

L1331[13:43:00] <Tazz> Stupid constant propagator haha

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L1335[13:47:14] <Xilef11> is there a way to force a TE to update (from the server)? what I'm doing doesn't look super clean... worldObj.notifyBlockUpdate(pos, worldObj.getBlockState(pos), worldObj.getBlockState(pos), 0);

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L1339[13:47:51] <diesieben07> that is fine, it however does not "update the TE".

L1340[13:48:12] <Xilef11> ?

L1341[13:48:45] <Xilef11> it syncs the block and TE to the client right?

L1342[13:49:55] <diesieben07> no, it causes the client to call world.setBlock again

L1343[13:49:58] <diesieben07> which re-renders the block

L1344[13:50:14] <diesieben07> and yes, it re-sends the TE

L1345[13:52:19] <gigaherz> Xilef11:

L1346[13:52:25] <gigaherz> state = world.getBlockState(pos);

L1347[13:52:33] <Xilef11> I preferred when it was world.markBlockForUpdate(BlockPos)

L1348[13:52:34] <gigaherz> world.notifyblockUpdate(pos, state, state, 3);

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L1350[13:52:46] <gigaherz> the "3" doesn't really matter

L1351[13:52:51] <gigaherz> but it's the "correct" value ;p

L1352[13:53:06] <gigaherz> just... dont' call getBlockState twice.

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L1361[14:23:21] <Chais> so it seems ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(Item.getItemFromBlock(this), 0, new ModelResourceLocation(getRegistryName(), "inventory")); is not the correct line for my doors

L1362[14:23:45] <Chais> getting a blockstate location exception

L1363[14:25:04] <diesieben07> what is the error?

L1364[14:25:18] <Chais> Exception loading model for variant magiccastle:wooden_door#inventory for item "magiccastle:wooden_door", blockstate location exception:

L1365[14:25:19] <Chais> net.minecraftforge.client.model.ModelLoaderRegistry$LoaderException: Exception loading model magiccastle:wooden_door#inventory with loader VariantLoader.INSTANCE, skipping

L1366[14:25:40] <diesieben07> show the full log

L1367[14:25:49] <Chais> sec

L1368[14:26:40] <Chais> http://sprunge.us/BVPF

L1369[14:26:51] <Chais> full stacktrace

L1370[14:26:58] <diesieben07> ok now show the blockstate json.

L1371[14:27:10] <Chais> straight copy from vanilla

L1372[14:27:23] <diesieben07> show. it.

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L1375[14:28:04] <Chais> http://sprunge.us/EHOA

L1376[14:28:13] <Wuppy> jesus gigaherz I feel for you... 40C

L1377[14:28:26] <diesieben07> ok. so you told it to use variant "inventory".

L1378[14:28:31] <diesieben07> where in that blockstate file do you see that variant?

L1379[14:29:17] <Chais> I have no idea what that parameter does. I've seen it in the examples I've looked at so far and it worked there. can't find any documentation either

L1380[14:29:58] <diesieben07> you see all those variants listed in the blockstate file, yes?

L1381[14:30:05] <Chais> yup

L1382[14:30:11] <diesieben07> thats what the string means

L1383[14:30:13] <diesieben07> it says which to use

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L1385[14:32:10] <Chais> ok. now I have the teensiest little door xD

L1386[14:32:33] <Chais> and if I put another next to it the both pop off and drop vanilla oak doors

L1387[14:34:04] <jrbudda> hi there, installation question: can Forge be installed via a profile json alone?

L1388[14:34:56] <jrbudda> like if I'm making a profile that includes Forge as a library and a download link, is that sufficient? or does the installer do something else besides make a profile and put the jar in libraries?

L1389[14:35:23] <diesieben07> it creates the version json and installs the libraries, thats what you need

L1390[14:35:42] <diesieben07> but it's discouraged to bypass the installer, since the downloads is how forge makes money

L1391[14:35:59] <jrbudda> i did not know that

L1392[14:36:03] <jrbudda> installer downloads?

L1393[14:36:08] <jrbudda> or jar downloads?

L1394[14:36:37] <diesieben07> any download from files.minecraftforge.net goes through adfoc.us

L1395[14:36:47] <diesieben07> unless you use the direct links of course

L1396[14:36:54] <jrbudda> ok so if i make a json that downloads from there?

L1397[14:37:17] <jrbudda> that prolly wouldnt work

L1398[14:37:19] <jrbudda> nvm

L1399[14:37:28] <diesieben07> your json is not a user viewing the ad ;)

L1400[14:37:35] <jrbudda> yea i thought about it

L1401[14:38:21] <Chais> what's against the direct link?

L1402[14:38:47] <diesieben07> the direct link is not a user viewing the ad.

L1403[14:38:48] <sham1> The fact that Lex lives off of Forge, therefore he does need users to see the ads

L1404[14:39:01] <sham1> AFAIK

L1405[14:39:10] <diesieben07> yep.

L1406[14:39:10] <jrbudda> he lives my dream

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L1408[14:39:25] <jrbudda> he must get a lot of downloads

L1409[14:39:43] <Chais> living off ad networks that get blocked for being a security risk? nah thanks

L1410[14:40:07] <diesieben07> jrbudda, and lots of downloads = you need to have a big ass server which costs money.

L1411[14:40:07] <sham1> Security risk?

L1412[14:40:29] <Chais> exactly

L1413[14:40:38] <jrbudda> adfloc / adfly doesnt host the files?

L1414[14:40:45] <jrbudda> i never looked into how that works

L1415[14:40:51] <Chais> most ad networks have trouble not delivering malicious ads

L1416[14:40:55] <jrbudda> i should, i bet i could make, like, a whole dollar

L1417[14:41:07] <diesieben07> jrbudda, they are a link shortener that shows ads. thats all

L1418[14:41:09] <Chais> no it's not the hosted files. it's the ads

L1419[14:41:15] <jrbudda> i see

L1420[14:41:27] <jrbudda> is the payout any good?

L1421[14:41:33] <sham1> Depends'

L1422[14:41:58] <diesieben07> http://adfoc.us/payout-rates

L1423[14:43:11] <jrbudda> that seems like not enough to live on, lol

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L1425[14:43:28] <Chais> I love how uMatrix blocks the entire domain xD

L1426[14:43:57] <diesieben07> if you get enough clicks :)

L1427[14:44:22] <diesieben07> forge appparently has terabytes of traffic per day

L1428[14:44:36] <diesieben07> if i remember correctly

L1429[14:44:39] <jrbudda> wow

L1430[14:44:48] <diesieben07> of course that includes the stuff that the installer downloads (ie the libraries)

L1431[14:44:57] <jrbudda> i think I will stick to donations and keeping my day job for now, haha

L1432[14:45:03] <sham1> Patreon

L1433[14:45:09] <sham1> It's really weird here

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L1436[14:45:58] <sham1> Anyway, got my free 3d camera to work

L1437[14:46:04] <sham1> Thank you cosine and sine

L1438[14:46:38] <Chais> sham1: what you up to?

L1439[14:47:22] <sham1> I'm just doing a random 3d thing

L1440[14:49:14] <Chais> 3d can be finnicky. but fun

L1441[14:49:20] <sham1> Ya

L1442[14:49:32] <Chais> but what would you need sin/cos in the camera for?

L1443[14:49:37] <sham1> Strafing

L1444[14:50:02] <Chais> ah, speed?

L1445[14:51:29] <sham1> I pretty much did need trigonometry to be able to strafe as I could strafe before, but it was only along x axis

L1446[14:52:08] <sham1> Which is what I would not classify as strafing

L1447[14:52:24] <Chais> bit of a roundabout way of doing it, but I guess it works

L1448[14:52:29] <sham1> ye

L1449[14:53:24] <Chais> I'd probably go for translating the camera within its own coordinate system, calculate the new world position and undo the translation in the local CS

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L1452[15:00:55] <gigaherz> [21:28] (Wuppy): jesus gigaherz I feel for you... 40C

L1453[15:00:56] <gigaherz> not here

L1454[15:01:04] <gigaherz> we erached osmething like 33C

L1455[15:01:06] <gigaherz> reached*

L1456[15:01:13] <gigaherz> I did have to turn on the AC, though

L1457[15:01:16] <gigaherz> first time this year

L1458[15:01:32] <Chais> so how do I get my door to actually be two blocks high? I suspected BlockDoor.canPlaceBlockAt() to take care of that, but apparently it doesn't

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L1460[15:01:45] <gigaherz> uh no

L1461[15:01:48] <gigaherz> check your Item

L1462[15:01:50] <gigaherz> when you place one

L1463[15:01:52] <gigaherz> it has to place both

L1464[15:02:01] <gigaherz> check ItemDoor

L1465[15:02:15] <gigaherz> it has a public static placeDoor

L1466[15:02:17] <gigaherz> that you could use

L1467[15:02:54] <Chais> ah, so my item creation is off. so Item.GetItemFromBlock(this) is not the way to go

L1468[15:03:11] <gigaherz> that has nothing to do

L1469[15:03:27] <gigaherz> at some point you register an ItemBlock for it, right?

L1470[15:03:31] <Chais> yup

L1471[15:03:37] <gigaherz> rather than using a generic one

L1472[15:03:43] <gigaherz> create your own ItemBlockDoor or something

L1473[15:03:51] <Chais> currently I'm doing new ItemBlock(this)

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L1475[15:03:56] <gigaherz> and copy over the onItemUse from the ItemDoor

L1476[15:03:57] <gigaherz> ;p

L1477[15:12:37] <Wuppy> gigaherz, better than the dutch summer though, so far it's been around 18C and raining :V

L1478[15:12:54] <sham1> Dutch summer

L1479[15:12:57] <sham1> What's that

L1480[15:13:05] <Wuppy> today there's this festival which had to be downscaled massively thanks to the rain

L1481[15:13:17] <Wuppy> and tomorrow at the festivla I'm going to I expect a lot of mud :<

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L1483[15:13:32] <Chais> I thought that's what festivals are about oO

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L1485[15:13:49] <Chais> haven't been at one that wasn't at least partly mud

L1486[15:15:53] <Wuppy> then you've been to festivals at bad times

L1487[15:15:55] <Wuppy> or bad festivals

L1488[15:16:46] <Tazz> hey Wuppy

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L1490[15:16:58] <Wuppy> hello Tazz :)

L1491[15:17:09] <Tazz> hows you Wuppy ?

L1492[15:17:20] <Wuppy> finally have my summer vacation :D

L1493[15:17:38] <Wuppy> also, I have a Duvel now :)

L1494[15:17:39] <Tazz> Wuppy, cool

L1495[15:18:03] <Tazz> XD

L1496[15:18:26] <Wuppy> and as we all know, belgian beer is great beer

L1497[15:20:21] <Wuppy> although I've got to say, Duvel isn't one of their better ones

L1498[15:20:27] <Tazz> XD

L1499[15:20:55] <Tazz> gah I came home to eat and I still havent done that XD

L1500[15:21:04] <Chais> do items and blocks have separate registries?

L1501[15:21:18] <Tazz> Chais, what minecraft version

L1502[15:21:23] <Chais> 1.9.4

L1503[15:21:28] <Ordinastie_> yes

L1504[15:21:29] <Tazz> yes

L1505[15:21:32] <Chais> k

L1506[15:21:55] <Wuppy> I like how Duvel is pretty much one of the most popular beers yet there's tons I can name which are better

L1507[15:22:19] * Tazz doesnt like beer

L1508[15:22:25] <Tazz> I prefer liquor

L1509[15:22:26] <Tazz> XD

L1510[15:22:30] <Chais> Wuppy: popular doesn't mean good

L1511[15:22:35] <Wuppy> funnily enough, Filou is a clone of Duvel, and it's much better :P

L1512[15:22:43] <Wuppy> Chais, this gets a 95/100 rating on average

L1513[15:23:28] <Chais> Bavaria's most popular beer by bottles sold is Öttinger. The best is probably from some small brewery nobody has ever heard of ^^

L1514[15:24:27] <Chais> basically, if they wanna sell their stuff they have to make it appeal to the masses. and the common ground for taste is relatively small

L1515[15:24:29] <Wuppy> Chais, Duvel is also a special beer, the most drank beer here is probabely heineken which is shit

L1516[15:24:37] <Chais> it is ^^

L1517[15:24:47] <Wuppy> also, I thought you said Bavaria as a beer brand there, which is also shit

L1518[15:25:00] <Wuppy> (bad, cheap dutch beer)

L1519[15:25:16] <Chais> no. Öttinger is bad cheap bavarian beer ^^

L1520[15:25:47] <Wuppy> http://www.centerhoreca.nl/assets/gallery/15/477.jpg

L1521[15:25:55] <Wuppy> I mean this image says it all

L1522[15:26:08] <Wuppy> if you google the brand, the top result is beer in cans which is literally the worst way to drink beer :P

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L1525[15:26:54] <Chais> which is why I barely drink any beer atm

L1526[15:27:04] <Wuppy> why?

L1527[15:27:14] <Chais> most beer where is live comes in cans

L1528[15:27:22] <Chais> bottles are rather hard to come by

L1529[15:27:32] <Wuppy> :(

L1530[15:27:34] <Chais> also I've grown spoiled xD

L1531[15:27:37] <Wuppy> go to a special beer store

L1532[15:27:54] <Wuppy> and order some Filou, Kasteel or La Trappe beer

L1533[15:28:04] <Chais> La Trappe I know, I think

L1534[15:28:21] <Wuppy> or Leffe or Texels beer

L1535[15:28:34] <Chais> Duvel I've tried too I think. Leffe too

L1536[15:29:34] <Wuppy> duvel isn't too great

L1537[15:29:37] <Wuppy> leffe is

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L1541[15:34:40] <Chais> if you're into craft beer I can wholeheartedly recommend the brews of http://www.camba-bavaria.de/

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L1543[15:35:27] <Wuppy> they make 50 differnet beers themselves?

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L1546[15:37:02] <Wuppy> Camba Lechte Weisse looks & sounds awesome :)

L1547[15:37:11] <Wuppy> I'll keep my eye out for this brand.. doubt I'll find it though

L1548[15:40:55] <Wuppy> damn this is one strong beer though...

L1549[15:44:11] <LexManos> !gm renderLagometer

L1550[15:44:43] <Chais> I was at a tasting there once. awesome stuff. the coffee stout was fun

L1551[15:45:17] <Wuppy> oeh if you like beer that tastes somewhat like coffee, get the best beer I've ever had: Kasteel barista chocolate quad

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L1553[15:45:38] <Wuppy> we drank that with about 20 people, over 50% considered it the best beer ever

L1554[15:45:44] <Wuppy> so uhhh... it's pretty good :P

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L1556[15:48:50] <Chais> I'll try to keep it in mind

L1557[16:00:40] <Chais> seems items and blocks share a registry in 1.9.4

L1558[16:00:55] <Chais> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Attempted to set registry name with existing registry name!

L1559[16:01:28] <Ordinastie_> no they don't

L1560[16:02:42] <Chais> why the exception then?

L1561[16:02:58] <Ordinastie_> the exception tells you exactly what happens

L1562[16:03:17] <Ordinastie_> also, you should have a stacktrace that tells you what it originated from

L1563[16:08:07] <Chais> I'm trying to register a custom item instead of an ItemBlock

L1564[16:08:20] <Ordinastie_> what does the exception tell you ?

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L1566[16:09:43] <Chais> http://sprunge.us/Ifhj

L1567[16:10:02] <Ordinastie_> -_-

L1568[16:10:13] <Ordinastie_> I'm asking you

L1569[16:10:19] <Chais> ah

L1570[16:10:54] <Chais> it tells me that I'm trying to register a new something to an already existing registry name

L1571[16:11:10] <Ordinastie_> not exactly

L1572[16:11:35] <Ordinastie_> it doesn't say register

L1573[16:11:38] <Ordinastie_> it says "set registry name"

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L1575[16:13:50] <masa> someone who is better with rendering stuff, just out of curiosity: would the "placement preview" mod be feasible in 1.7.10, ie. before the models? I guess you could render the actual block at least... but would it be possible to do a wire frame model without having access to the model quads/vertice data?

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L1577[16:14:27] <Ordinastie_> would probably be easier and look better to not be wireframe, but just alpha'd out

L1578[16:14:29] <Ordinastie_> but yes

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L1580[16:14:31] <Ordinastie_> it's doable

L1581[16:14:36] <diesieben07> you could make a custom tessellator and grab the vertices that way

L1582[16:14:45] <masa> the person whu was asking for this mod is still in 1.7.10 and was hoping for it there, but I'm certainly not touching anything before 1.9.4 anymore...

L1583[16:14:58] <masa> hmm, okay

L1584[16:15:52] <masa> well I'm going to add wire frame as a second option, but the actual models will be the other option

L1585[16:16:13] <masa> but I don't really know how to render the models as translucent...

L1586[16:16:44] <Ordinastie_> just set the blendfunc and alpha

L1587[16:16:44] * masa sucks in general at rendering things

L1588[16:17:47] <kashike> masa: dis you see my ping above a few hours ago?

L1589[16:17:50] <Fredi100> Hey, i am trying to release my first mod, but when i try to build it, it cant transfer the mcmod.info file. I googled a bit so i think the problem is probably something with my build file and the mcmod.info not beeing consistent but i cant find the exact problem

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L1591[16:20:03] <masa> kashike: yep I saw it... I didn't find it on curseforge so I don't know if he abandoned it?

L1592[16:20:59] <jrbudda> can anyone point me in the direction of some kind of documentation for the version json contents?

L1593[16:21:03] <kashike> masa: well the person is in here, you may be able to poke and see if you're curious :P

L1594[16:21:33] <masa> I pinged him but no response so far...

L1595[16:22:17] <masa> Fredi100: here is one of my build files https://github.com/maruohon/minihud/blob/master/build.gradle#L91-L102

L1596[16:22:35] <masa> and the mcmod.info is in src/main/resources

L1597[16:22:59] <Fredi100> build.gradle: http://pastebin.com/FRh3z5ck mcmod.info: http://pastebin.com/ELqLAtEx stacktrace: http://pastebin.com/Ggfd80Fg

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L1599[16:24:09] <masa> jrbudda: https://git.io/vr5QZ

L1600[16:24:46] <masa> and an example: https://github.com/maruohon/minihud/blob/master/update.json

L1601[16:25:14] <jrbudda> oh, i guess i mean regular launcher jsons

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L1603[16:25:48] <jrbudda> with libraries and things

L1604[16:26:07] <Chais> Ordinastie_: I'm at a loss. I'm trying to set a custom item for my door. usually, for a normal block I'd call GameRegistry.register(new ItemBlock(this), getRegistryName());

L1605[16:26:26] <masa> Fredi100: Caused by: groovy.lang.MissingPropertyException: No such property: modid for class: SimpleTemplateScript1

L1606[16:26:31] <masa> maybe that one?

L1607[16:26:40] <Ordinastie_> you set the registry name twice, that's plain english

L1608[16:26:47] <Chais> since that won't work as intended I tried GameRegistry.register(new ItemMagicDoor(this, registryName), getRegistryName()); which gives me the exception

L1609[16:27:00] <Chais> that's what I said, isn't it?

L1610[16:27:06] <Chais> and normally it works, too

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L1612[16:27:48] <diesieben07> Chais, i assume the ItemMagicDoor constructor calls setRegistryName?

L1613[16:27:53] <Fredi100> masa: I found it, i though i could do this "modid": "${modid}" in my mcmod.info

L1614[16:28:11] <Chais> positive

L1615[16:28:16] <diesieben07> there is your issue

L1616[16:28:24] <diesieben07> look at what the 2 arg register method does.

L1617[16:29:40] <masa> Fredi100: well you need to assign the modid variable then too

L1618[16:30:13] <Chais> so if I want to register the item and block separately, how do I link them?

L1619[16:30:33] <diesieben07> set the registry name of the item to the one of the block.

L1620[16:30:53] <Chais> and drop the second call to .register?

L1621[16:31:09] <diesieben07> no.

L1622[16:31:12] <diesieben07> you need to register both.

L1623[16:31:30] <diesieben07> but don't call setRegistryName twice on the same object

L1624[16:31:59] <jrbudda> i found this but it's missing a lot http://wiki.vg/Game_files

L1625[16:32:12] <masa> Chais: https://github.com/maruohon/enderutilities/blob/master/src/main/java/fi/dy/masa/enderutilities/setup/EnderUtilitiesBlocks.java#L157

L1626[16:34:03] <kashike> interesting code style

L1627[16:34:06] <kashike> isDisabled == false

L1628[16:39:31] <Chais> diesieben07: sure I need both. but separately. If I got that right .register(new ItemBlock(this), getRegistryName()) registers a new item autogenerated from the block and registers it to the name of the block

L1629[16:39:54] <diesieben07> No.

L1630[16:40:05] <diesieben07> it calls setRegistryName on the first argument with the 2nd argument

L1631[16:40:09] <diesieben07> then it calls register(first arg)

L1632[16:40:55] <Chais> yes. and new ItemBlock(this) creates the item from the existing block

L1633[16:41:01] <diesieben07> yes.

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L1635[16:42:10] <Chais> currently I'm calling .register(this) and then .register(new ItemMagicDoor(...)...

L1636[16:42:30] <Chais> so I need to drop the second call, since the ctor of ItemMagicDoor already takes care of it

L1637[16:42:40] <diesieben07> does it call register(this)?

L1638[16:42:47] <Chais> yes

L1639[16:42:55] <diesieben07> then yes you need to drop that

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L1641[16:44:28] <masa> oh wow, I never even knew that the door hinge position on the placed doors depends on which "edge" on the block you are pointing at :o

L1642[16:45:02] <masa> in other words, yay, my placement preview mod now handles doors correctly too :p

L1643[16:47:28] <Chais> now I'm getting an exception from the initModel(). Assume I need to replace Item.getItemFromBlock(this) by something more appropriate?

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L1645[16:47:56] <diesieben07> what exception? what is your code?

L1646[16:48:05] <Chais> sec

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L1648[16:50:48] <Chais> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(Item.getItemFromBlock(this), 0, new ModelResourceLocation(getRegistryName(), "facing=east,half=lower,hinge=left,open=false"));

L1649[16:51:12] <Chais> getting a NPE

L1650[16:51:33] <diesieben07> and you are positive you are creating and registering the item?

L1651[16:51:52] <masa> wait is that in your block class?

L1652[16:52:11] <masa> what order are you registering stuff in?

L1653[16:52:22] <Chais> blocks first, then items

L1654[16:52:28] <masa> should be block, item, model for that

L1655[16:52:42] <diesieben07> show where you register your item.

L1656[16:53:12] <Chais> sec

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L1658[16:55:32] <Chais> @Mod class https://gist.github.com/Chais/77eb8a55d611da31fcd8da31ec292f01

L1659[16:55:57] <diesieben07> and ModBlocks / ModItems?

L1660[16:56:23] <Chais> ModBlocks: https://gist.github.com/Chais/f5a478467afab9b0274f13a4cc7f685c ModItems: https://gist.github.com/Chais/32b186c4790a4dd012919c3c7f4fdad6

L1661[16:56:50] <diesieben07> ItemMagicDoor?

L1662[16:57:34] <Chais> BlockMagicDoor: https://gist.github.com/Chais/b60b5c20c06f4424734973c5a22dff52 ItemMagicDoor: https://gist.github.com/Chais/ac24a18493e4a457c02de31ab3b7168d

L1663[16:59:17] <diesieben07> ok its not the doors, they are fine.

L1664[16:59:32] <Chais> so the item?

L1665[16:59:45] <diesieben07> no its one of the non-door items

L1666[16:59:50] <diesieben07> ehh blocks

L1667[17:00:03] <Chais> they worked fine before oO

L1668[17:00:16] <diesieben07> where EXACTLY are you gettin gthe NPE

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L1670[17:01:22] <Chais> from setCustomMRL called from BlockMagicDoor:46

L1671[17:01:33] <diesieben07> post the stacktrace.

L1672[17:02:11] <Chais> https://gist.github.com/Chais/1b84123cb5106a5eeacae56596c60b55

L1673[17:04:25] <Chais> Idea tells me that Item.getItemFromBlock(this) might be null. but it always has done that

L1674[17:05:29] <diesieben07> yeah this should not be possible.

L1675[17:08:12] <Chais> so Item.getItemFromBlock is principally the right thing to call?

L1676[17:08:19] <diesieben07> yes

L1677[17:08:31] <Chais> huh...

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L1680[17:10:14] <diesieben07> if you had a git repo i would debug this for you...

L1681[17:10:42] <Chais> havne't for this. also I wanna learn it ^^

L1682[17:11:14] <diesieben07> well, put breakpoints everywhere, see whats happening :D

L1683[17:11:20] <Chais> on it

L1684[17:12:50] <Chais> but the break on exception is so not helpful... doesn't even contain my classes at all

L1685[17:18:35] <Chais> so I put a break on that line

L1686[17:18:50] <Chais> this is not null. yet Item.getItemFromBlock(this) returns null

L1687[17:19:14] <diesieben07> does ForgeRegistries.ITEM contain your item?

L1688[17:19:20] <diesieben07> actually

L1689[17:19:32] <diesieben07> just step into getItemFromBlock and check why it returns null

L1690[17:19:55] <Chais> on exactly that. where would I find ForgeRegistries.ITEM?

L1691[17:20:13] <diesieben07> that question makes no sense :D

L1692[17:20:36] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> Item.REGISTRY

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L1694[17:22:02] <diesieben07> same deal

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L1698[17:24:04] <LexMobile> Same deal but you should use forge registries as it had the clean modder facing api

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L1702[17:25:04] <Chais> BLOCK_TO_ITEM doesn't seem to contain it

L1703[17:25:28] <Chais> it contains my datablock though

L1704[17:26:23] <diesieben07> verify that absolutely the registry name is exactly the same

L1705[17:27:16] <diesieben07> actually that is irrelevant.

L1706[17:27:27] <Chais> ForgeRegistries.ITEMS?

L1707[17:27:48] <Chais> has it oO

L1708[17:27:51] <diesieben07> god i just noticed it...

L1709[17:27:55] <diesieben07> your item is not an ItemBlock

L1710[17:27:57] <diesieben07> -_-

L1711[17:28:14] <Chais> that is very true

L1712[17:28:28] <diesieben07> then it has NO connection to your Block.

L1713[17:28:31] <diesieben07> why is it not?

L1714[17:29:00] <Chais> because the vanilla doors are that way, I guess

L1715[17:29:10] <Ordinastie_> diesieben07, it doesn't have to be a ItemBlock

L1716[17:29:19] <diesieben07> for getItemFromblock to work: yes.

L1717[17:29:23] <Chais> ^

L1718[17:29:57] <Ordinastie_> does it though ?

L1719[17:30:23] <diesieben07> yes. See GameData.ItemCallbacks

L1720[17:31:06] <Ordinastie_> wtf ?

L1721[17:31:14] <diesieben07> ???

L1722[17:31:29] <Ordinastie_> why is there that instanceof check in the first place? ôO

L1723[17:31:39] <diesieben07> how would it work otherwise?

L1724[17:32:41] <Chais> can I get the item via the registry name somehow?

L1725[17:32:48] <diesieben07> just use the constants in your ModItems class?

L1726[17:33:19] <Chais> but then I'd have to tell initModel() for which variant I'm currently calling it

L1727[17:33:34] <Ordinastie_> well, I'm not sure where the callback is called from, but maybe have a different way to get the matching block I guess

L1728[17:33:41] <diesieben07> you can use ForgeRegistries.ITEMS.getValue(<registry name>)

L1729[17:33:43] <LexMobile> Name isnt reliable as there are some vanilla ones that are not synced

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L1731[17:34:52] <Chais> currently using Item.getByNameOrId(getRegistryName().toString()) which works-ish

L1732[17:35:07] <Chais> my wooden door item has the texture of an open door :D

L1733[17:35:08] <diesieben07> oh god.

L1734[17:35:27] <Chais> what

L1735[17:35:33] <diesieben07> that is a horrible method

L1736[17:35:37] <Zaggy1024> indeed

L1737[17:35:39] <Chais> why

L1738[17:35:49] <Zaggy1024> ID meaning integer

L1739[17:35:53] <LexMobile> Dont use that function

L1740[17:35:54] <Zaggy1024> so it's parsing an string to an integer

L1741[17:35:55] <diesieben07> it takes a string for a start.

L1742[17:36:00] <diesieben07> ForgeRegistries.ITEMS.getValue(<registry name>)

L1743[17:36:02] <diesieben07> use that.

L1744[17:36:06] <Chais> Zaggy1024: name or ID

L1745[17:36:18] <Zaggy1024> erm

L1746[17:36:19] <Zaggy1024> what?

L1747[17:36:37] <Chais> it takes a string

L1748[17:36:40] <Chais> not an int

L1749[17:36:43] <Zaggy1024> yeah?

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L1751[17:36:54] <LexMobile> When fucking with registries

L1752[17:36:54] <Zaggy1024> it parses the string to an int if it comes up with nothing using the name

L1753[17:37:03] <LexMobile> DO NOT use vanilla shit

L1754[17:37:08] <Zaggy1024> and you shouldn't be using a string anyway, you should always use ResourceLocation

L1755[17:37:14] <LexMobile> Use ForgeRegistries and GameRegistry

L1756[17:37:31] <diesieben07> while you're here and we're talking about registries, lex would you be fine with a PR that adds ByteBufUtils.write/readRegistryEntry and uses the ID?

L1757[17:37:46] <diesieben07> so that the transfer can be efficient wiithout mods having to deal with IDs

L1758[17:38:12] <LexMobile> I was thinking about that. Itd have to do registry type and id

L1759[17:38:43] <diesieben07> or we could do read(IForgeRegistry)

L1760[17:39:04] <LexMobile> Maybe

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L1764[17:46:41] <Chais> lol xD works flawlessly http://imgur.com/U6YVeI8

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L1766[17:48:24] <Chais> now it's json debugging I guess

L1767[17:48:40] <diesieben07> i dont think that is a json problem

L1768[17:49:23] <Chais> but?

L1769[17:49:49] <diesieben07> something in your block? idk

L1770[17:50:19] <Chais> I'd suspect it wouldn't work for some blocks then. It'd be broken all the way

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L1772[17:51:57] <gudenau> Hello!

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L1774[17:52:27] <gudenau> I am looking at the beacon code, and it does not appear as though I can make my own blocks change it's color. Am I mistaken?

L1775[17:54:20] <diesieben07> you are not.

L1776[17:54:57] <Chais> without having looked at it, I'd suspect they could if you extend on BlockStainedGlass

L1777[17:55:10] <diesieben07> nope.

L1778[17:55:19] <masa> change colour how?

L1779[17:55:37] <Chais> if you put stained glass above a beacon its beam changes colour

L1780[17:55:50] <masa> oh right the beam

L1781[17:56:51] <masa> still that question was a bit vague

L1782[17:59:34] <Chais> diesieben07: why not? updateSegmentColors() checks for blocks in the beam and if they're stained glass adopts their colour

L1783[17:59:59] <diesieben07> it checks for Blocks.STAINED_GLASS

L1784[17:59:59] <Chais> and Block derived from BlockStainedGlass should inherit that treatment

L1785[18:00:21] <Chais> ah true

L1786[18:00:37] <Chais> so basically checks for the known instance

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L1790[18:03:50] <Chais> well, getting late here. thank you folks for your help and patience. I'll be back tomorrow and probably require more of it ;)

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L1797[18:24:25] <masa> oooh, derp, only now I understood the question, haha

L1798[18:24:51] <masa> I thought he was trying to make his block change its color in some way

L1799[18:25:08] <masa> and just checking the beacon for some examples

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L1801[18:27:05] <masa> yay, once again blindly copy pasting rendering code from vanilla seems to have worked ;D

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L1803[18:27:34] <masa> I now have TESR blocks also rendering in the preview

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L1805[18:28:52] <tterrag> it would be a decent place for an event

L1806[18:28:57] <tterrag> or something else, along the lines of IBlockColor

L1807[18:29:04] <tterrag> the beacon coloring, that is

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L1810[18:36:12] <b0bst3r> quick question to anyone, playing 1.10.2 and have automatic step up blocks, can't find a mod that's doing it, is this a MC default now?

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L1812[18:36:31] <tterrag> yes, it's called auto jump

L1813[18:36:55] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Is there a way to force update a block with it's TE? markDirty doesn't seem to cut it.

L1814[18:37:01] <b0bst3r> any way to turn it off it's annoying

L1815[18:37:24] <diesieben07> Ferdz_TheWeeb, define "update".

L1816[18:37:30] <diesieben07> b0bst3r, yes in the options i think

L1817[18:37:32] <TehNut> Options > Controls > Toggle at the top

L1818[18:37:46] <b0bst3r> ahh ty ty

L1819[18:37:55] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> diesieben07, I want the data to be sent from the server to every client

L1820[18:38:00] <diesieben07> what data?

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L1822[18:38:53] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> It's a data that is used for rendering and that changed on right click, but that I can't store in the metadata

L1823[18:39:22] <diesieben07> send a packet

L1824[18:39:39] <diesieben07> you can use the builtin "description packet" or use your own

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L1826[18:39:57] <masa> notifyBlockUpdate() to cause the updatePacket to be sent

L1827[18:40:06] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> It works when you relog, I just want it to update on demand

L1828[18:40:12] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> I'll try that masa

L1829[18:40:33] <diesieben07> so you have the update packet already set up, you shoulda said that :P

L1830[18:40:51] <masa> Ferdz_TheWeeb: https://github.com/maruohon/enderutilities/blob/master/src/main/java/fi/dy/masa/enderutilities/tileentity/TileEntityPortalPanel.java#L232-L233

L1831[18:41:11] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Yeah sorry, everything is already setup I just want it to execute whenever I want :P

L1832[18:41:34] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Is oldState used by anything?

L1833[18:42:09] <diesieben07> currently it isnt

L1834[18:42:26] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Okay

L1835[18:42:32] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Should I be marking it dirty as well?

L1836[18:42:46] <diesieben07> markDirty is to say "i need to be saved to disk" and updates comparators

L1837[18:43:48] <masa> hmm, should I make my fake world tick so that the TESRs might actually update... I think that's probably too much :p

L1838[18:43:57] <diesieben07> TESRs dont tick

L1839[18:44:14] <masa> it probably can't handle all the stuff anyway

L1840[18:44:18] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> "i need to be saved to disk right now" or "i need to be saved to disk at server close"

L1841[18:44:27] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> I'm not using a TESR so that settles it :p

L1842[18:44:28] <diesieben07> i need to be saved whenver

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L1844[18:44:31] <masa> well isn't some animation stuff somtimes done in the update() on the client?

L1845[18:44:41] <diesieben07> it just says "my data changed, so re-save me when you save next"

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L1847[18:55:13] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> http://pastebin.com/WtAn1efH this works on single player if I don't right click too much and not at all on multiplayer

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L1849[18:56:58] <diesieben07> either have the thing stored in the TE or in metadata... not both

L1850[18:57:37] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Why not?

L1851[18:57:49] <diesieben07> redundancy is bad?

L1852[18:58:00] <diesieben07> why store it in 2 places?

L1853[18:58:01] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Oh I thought you said I couldn't use both at all

L1854[18:58:08] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> I'm not storing it in 2 places

L1855[18:58:12] <diesieben07> yes you are.

L1856[18:58:29] <diesieben07> unless the property MODEL is not stored in metadata?

L1857[18:58:39] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Think you might be right

L1858[18:58:42] <diesieben07> and if so: don't call world.setBlockState then

L1859[18:58:54] <diesieben07> all setBlockState does is call getMetaFromState and remember that.

L1860[18:58:58] <diesieben07> it does NOT remember the IBLockState

L1861[18:58:58] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> The property MODEL is used in getActualState but the value is stored in the TE

L1862[18:59:13] <diesieben07> yeah, remove all that blockstate stuff from onBlockActivated then

L1863[18:59:19] <diesieben07> just change the TE value

L1864[18:59:54] <KnightMiner> Is onBlockAdded called after the TE is created?

L1865[19:00:28] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> onBlockPlacedBy is KnightMiner

L1866[19:00:46] <KnightMiner> Is that one called when placed via setBlockState?

L1867[19:00:58] <diesieben07> onBlockAdded is called before the TE

L1868[19:00:59] <diesieben07> why?

L1869[19:01:14] <KnightMiner> I want to set some data in the TE on block placement

L1870[19:01:22] <diesieben07> set it in the TE constructor?

L1871[19:01:22] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> No it's not called with setBlockState

L1872[19:01:42] <KnightMiner> Basically my block has a powered state and upon setting said state the TE data is lost

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L1875[19:01:53] <KnightMiner> Otherwise I'll just make a custom method

L1876[19:01:54] <gigaherz> KnightMiner: override shouldREfresh on the TE

L1877[19:01:59] <gigaherz> so that it doesn't get erased on blockstate changes

L1878[19:02:03] <gigaherz> shouldRefresh*

L1879[19:02:15] <KnightMiner> I did not know that was an option, thanks!

L1880[19:02:20] <gigaherz> yo uwant to return something like oldState.getBlock()!=newState.getBlock()

L1881[19:02:27] <gigaherz> rather than oldState!=newState which is thedefault

L1882[19:02:47] <gigaherz> if you DO have states that need a new TE

L1883[19:02:51] <gigaherz> then you can do like

L1884[19:03:15] <gigaherz> return (oldState.getBlock()!=newState.getBlock()) || (oldState.getValue(SUBTYPE) != newState.getValue(SUBTYPE))

L1885[19:03:17] <KnightMiner> For the most part it never does, the TE is just there as an extended data container

L1886[19:03:27] <gigaherz> yeah just for reference

L1887[19:03:35] <KnightMiner> (I ran out of space in the metadata and it was a mess doing separate blocks

L1888[19:04:17] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Now the data updates when I see it through F3, but it doesn't change the block rendering, any reason why that would happen?

L1889[19:04:20] <gigaherz> yeah that0s ok

L1890[19:04:30] <gigaherz> Ferdz_TheWeeb: when you receive onDataPacket

L1891[19:04:34] <gigaherz> call notifyBlockUpdate on the client also

L1892[19:04:48] <gigaherz> this will trigger a rerender of the mesh for the given subchunk

L1893[19:04:57] <gigaherz> (the one your block resides in)

L1894[19:05:07] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Okay

L1895[19:05:28] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Should I just do that in the blockActivated or right in the TE?

L1896[19:05:38] <gigaherz> just in the onDataPacket of the TE

L1897[19:06:03] <gigaherz> although if you are updating the data on the client also

L1898[19:06:08] <gigaherz> and want the change to be applied sooner

L1899[19:06:10] <gigaherz> you can do that too

L1900[19:08:36] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Works perfect, thanks.

L1901[19:09:01] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Another question, how expensive is it for Minecraft to use getBlockState and notifyBlockUpdate?

L1902[19:12:19] <gigaherz> somewhat

L1903[19:12:37] <gigaherz> getBlockState is relatively quick

L1904[19:12:43] <gigaherz> but if you do a thousand of them per tick

L1905[19:12:46] <gigaherz> they'd show on the fps

L1906[19:13:05] <gigaherz> notifyBlockUpdate, you shouldn't call it more than once a tick

L1907[19:13:06] <gigaherz> and even then

L1908[19:13:13] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> But one every right click is fine

L1909[19:13:14] <gigaherz> you should try to avoid it if not necessary

L1910[19:13:22] <gigaherz> one every click is nothing ;P

L1911[19:13:30] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Perfect :P

L1912[19:14:37] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Unrelated, but is there a way to not show the missing variants from the blockstates? I have a complex combination of blockstates, and sometimes there's one or two that aren't defined because they never happen in game

L1913[19:14:59] <diesieben07> you can use a custom state mapper

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L1915[19:19:10] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Can you guide me towards some doc about that?

L1916[19:22:24] <diesieben07> the interface is pretty self explanatory really. there is also a Builder for it. then register using ModelLoader.setCustomStateMapper

L1917[19:22:29] <diesieben07> not sure if there is docs

L1918[19:23:54] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> Okay

L1919[19:24:05] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> I should only use that on my client proxy I assume

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L1922[19:24:24] <jmeyer2k> hi there

L1923[19:24:54] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> hi jmeyer2k

L1924[19:26:05] <jmeyer2k> I'm looking for a mod to contribute to.

L1925[19:26:10] <jmeyer2k> anyone need help?

L1926[19:26:22] <diesieben07> wow that is a rare request :D

L1927[19:26:57] <diesieben07> i can always use a had, what is your skillset? :D

L1928[19:27:03] <jmeyer2k> coding

L1929[19:27:10] <diesieben07> duh

L1930[19:27:16] <jmeyer2k> I've worked on a couple mods myself, but none to completion

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L1932[19:28:43] <jmeyer2k> anyway, I'll be here for a while, so just let me know :)

L1933[19:32:09] <diesieben07> if you havent even finished a mod i am honestly not sure if you are qualified tbh

L1934[19:32:51] <gigaherz> there's plenty of people asking to ahve old mods bugfixed or updated to modern mc

L1935[19:32:56] <jmeyer2k> lol I was just hoping for a github link

L1936[19:33:22] <jmeyer2k> I'll check it out gigaherz thx

L1937[19:33:31] <gigaherz> I may have had some stuff that needed doing, but I just took a one week vacation just to bugfix my stuff and upate to 1.10

L1938[19:33:38] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> GUess I'll just add the jsons, cuz I can't amke this workç

L1939[19:33:52] <gigaherz> and I wouldn't be comfortable with someone else writing new features ;P

L1940[19:34:16] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> If you really want to do something you can check out this https://github.com/Ferdzz/PlaceableItems and I can send you a few simple models I don't have the time to make

L1941[19:34:22] <Ferdz_TheWeeb> to implement in code*

L1942[19:34:50] <jmeyer2k> sure I can give it a try

L1943[19:45:05] <Flaeme> Ugg, gradle is trying to get jei from libraries.minecraft.net for some reason @.@

L1944[19:46:54] <mezz> grade does that if it can't find the correct maven, minecraft is a fallback

L1945[19:47:10] <mezz> make sure you have declared the repositories correctly

L1946[19:49:11] <Flaeme> mezz: I just changed the version and it worked so probably just a mistype there

L1947[19:50:26] <Flaeme> Also annoying is how long it takes to build already with just the few dependencies I have @.@

L1948[19:51:14] <mezz> they're cached so it only takes longer when you update them

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L1952[20:02:45] <tterrag> mezz: that's not quite why

L1953[20:02:55] <tterrag> the mojang maven is stupid and retuns 403 instead of 404 when a resource isn't found there

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L1955[20:03:11] <tterrag> which gradle interprets as an error instead of just a "not here"

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L1962[20:33:24] <LexMobile> #BlameNotch

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L1975[21:03:43] <elan_oots> How does GuiContainer.drawGuiForegroundLayer determine the top left corner of the GUI?

L1976[21:03:52] <elan_oots> And how does it determine the gui size?

L1977[21:04:13] <gudenau> The size is what it is told the size is as far as I know.

L1978[21:04:24] <elan_oots> Yeah what tells it the size?

L1979[21:04:32] <gudenau> Then you can calculate the position based on the size of the screen and the gui.

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L1981[21:04:39] <gudenau> Each GUI does.

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L1987[21:20:51] <Flaeme> Annoying problem: I need to like special case a blockstate to like invert the colors when rendering it @.@

L1988[21:21:35] <Flaeme> Well, pretty sure at least

L1989[21:21:54] <Flaeme> other wise one block variant for all the ones I'm making would just be solid black

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L1991[21:25:48] <khumps> Im trying to add tesla to my workspace havent ever tried using an api before and not sure how to do it

L1992[21:25:57] <khumps> 1.9.4

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L1996[21:34:32] <jmeyer2k> alright

L1997[21:34:39] <jmeyer2k> anyone else need help with their mod?

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L1999[21:37:57] <gudenau> Probably me, but I want to try to get my stuff working first. :-P

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L2007[22:09:26] <TehNut> khumps: https://github.com/Darkhax-Minecraft/Tesla/#dependency-management

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L2011[22:11:03] <TehNut> er

L2012[22:11:06] <Darkhax> Lol

L2013[22:11:07] <TehNut> khumps: https://github.com/Darkhax-Minecraft/Tesla/#dependency-management

L2014[22:11:16] <TehNut> sent that right after you left lol

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L2017[22:22:21] <jmeyer2k> I meant does anyone need contributors for their mod

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L2021[22:27:37] <jmeyer2k> does anyone know of an old mod that hasn't been updated in a while and would be cool to have newer versions of?

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L2036[23:05:15] <robedpixel> how do i edit the minecraft forge wiki?

L2037[23:05:22] <robedpixel> i mean the read the docs

L2038[23:09:12] <TehNut> Fork it at https://github.com/MinecraftForge/Documentation and submit a PR

L2039[23:11:23] <robedpixel> i want to see if i can do some documentation on the type of events available

L2040[23:11:26] <robedpixel> or is that not needed?

L2041[23:12:13] <tterrag> I don't really see why that's needed.

L2042[23:12:21] <tterrag> any IDE can show you all events

L2043[23:12:34] <tterrag> any hard-written list of events will be outdated in a few weeks

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L2045[23:18:03] <killjoy> select Event, Ctrl+Shift+T (eclipse)

L2046[23:18:17] <killjoy> opens type hierarchy

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