OCLogs: 2016-05-01.log

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L26[01:26:02] <Sollux-Captor> is it possible to check when an RP is loaded?

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L28[01:29:50] <pig> RP?

L29[01:30:02] <Sollux-Captor> resource pack

L30[01:30:08] <pig> ah. *shrug*

L31[01:30:23] <pig> yes actually but this method was for 1.7.10 and I did it years ago

L32[01:30:28] <pig> RPs have changed since

L33[01:30:39] <pig> but to answer your quesion, yes.

L34[01:30:56] <Sollux-Captor> What class and how exactly?

L35[01:33:51] <pig> that, you have to figure out by yourself.

L36[01:33:54] <pig> Like I said, I did it years ago

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L43[01:59:57] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20160501 mappings to Forge Maven.

L44[02:00:01] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20160501-1.9.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20160501" in build.gradle).

L45[02:00:12] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L48[02:07:55] <Sollux-Captor> What does the TextureSwitchEvent do?

L49[02:08:03] <Sollux-Captor> I cannot find documentation on it.

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L51[02:10:09] <Ordinastie_> it's events that are fired before and after the textures are stichted to the atlas

L52[02:11:34] <Sollux-Captor> So would this be fired when ever a resource pack is changed?

L53[02:12:04] <Ordinastie_> it would be that's not really its use

L54[02:12:36] <Ordinastie_> what do you want to do exactly ?

L55[02:12:54] <Sollux-Captor> I'm essentially trying to check when ever a resource pack is loaded to rerun a block of code.

L56[02:13:12] <Sollux-Captor> if a resource pack is loaded, do checks.

L57[02:13:27] <Ordinastie_> you can register a resourceReloadManager or something

L58[02:13:37] <tterrag> ^

L59[02:14:10] <Sollux-Captor> What class is that in?

L60[02:14:21] <Ordinastie_> Minecraft

L61[02:14:21] <tterrag> IReloadableResourceManager

L62[02:14:35] <Ordinastie_> and that's the implementation you want to do ^

L63[02:15:24] <Sollux-Captor> I see it might be called something different in 1.9?

L64[02:15:31] <Ordinastie_> maybe

L65[02:15:33] <Ordinastie_> doubt it

L66[02:15:33] <LexMobile> Anyone seend the shade guy who did the obj stuff?

L67[02:15:39] <Sollux-Captor> "registerReloadListener"

L68[02:16:02] <tterrag> yes

L69[02:16:25] <Sollux-Captor> was that a yes to me or lex?

L70[02:16:33] <Ordinastie_> to you

L71[02:16:38] <Sollux-Captor> Ok

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L76[02:27:05] <Sollux-Captor> So what do I pass from Minecraft to registerReloadListener() ?

L77[02:27:37] <Ordinastie_> your own listener

L78[02:29:00] <Sollux-Captor> Oh so it is nothing from Minecraft I have to pass to it, just my own listener class?

L79[02:29:27] <Sollux-Captor> I'm just not sure how all of this works is all.

L80[02:29:56] <Ordinastie_> you register your listener, and when resources are reloaded, the method is called on your listener

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L99[03:10:26] <Sollux-Captor> So I got it "working" but it does not seem to be reloading anything.

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L146[05:31:10] <BoredArmor> Hi, is there a method to attach to an existing network channel ?

L147[05:33:01] <Ordinastie_> why don't you use you own channel ?

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L157[05:38:23] <Ordinastie_> psxlover, fix your shit

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L163[05:45:11] <Wuppy> ugh why is there no number++ in python :<

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L169[05:49:53] <BoredArmor> Sorry Ordinastie_ didn't see your reply. Because i need to recieve the messages on a specific channel from a bukkit mod, another mod is already using that channel it seems.

L170[05:51:33] <BoredArmor> I'm using this http://pastebin.com/SVFe86ue but the "world_info" channel is already registered (by JourneyMap)

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L199[06:20:11] <Flenix> This may be a silly question... but I have an item and I want to do something with it MORE than 20 times a second- so onUpdate is no use. Is there any other options I can persue? I was thinking maybe if I could use system time or something, but not sure how I'd approach it.

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L202[06:21:59] <DJ_Arghlex> what seems to be the go-to thing for running a bukkit/spigot server with mods?

L203[06:22:29] <DJ_Arghlex> gonna make an effort to update my private modpack

L204[06:23:01] <DJ_Arghlex> cauldron/mcpc+ seem to only have builds up to forge 1403

L205[06:23:20] <Flenix> KCauldron

L206[06:23:34] <DJ_Arghlex> what's that based off of?

L207[06:23:40] <Flenix> I don't know if the original cauldron is still active, but KCauldron is a continuation of it

L208[06:23:41] <DJ_Arghlex> oh, just regular cauldron

L209[06:23:42] <DJ_Arghlex> good

L210[06:23:57] <DJ_Arghlex> d'aww, site's dead

L211[06:23:58] <Flenix> There's another as well that's more spigot based, but I forgot what it's called... lemme go ask the guy who told me about it

L212[06:24:05] <DJ_Arghlex> rad, alright

L213[06:24:35] <Flenix> Thermos, that was it

L214[06:24:48] <Flenix> It didn't work too well for me but I think it just clashed with Ships mod - so if you don't run that you'll probably be ok

L215[06:25:00] <DJ_Arghlex> I have some strange spigot-based cauldron I found off maeyanie's site

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L217[06:25:09] <DJ_Arghlex> yeah I have a pretty small list

L218[06:25:22] <gigaherz> the KCauldron page appearsto be dead? https://gitlab.prok.pw/KCauldron/KCauldron won't connect

L219[06:25:25] <DJ_Arghlex> yeah

L220[06:26:08] <DJ_Arghlex> seems to be a sourceforge mirror as well, but that's only up to 1403

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L222[06:27:30] <DJ_Arghlex> 'getspigot' seems to have it at both 1517 and 1614 but ... idk

L223[06:28:57] <gigaherz> do you really need bukkit-based plugins, though? there's mods for most things these days

L224[06:29:06] <DJ_Arghlex> performance.

L225[06:29:10] <gigaherz> you may be ableto make do wit hjust forge

L226[06:29:18] <DJ_Arghlex> performance and worldedit

L227[06:29:34] <gigaherz> worldedit works from forge now

L228[06:29:47] <gigaherz> as for performance stuff, dunno, never messed with that

L229[06:30:13] <DJ_Arghlex> well just using te default spigot config the gains are noticable

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L233[06:31:38] <DJ_Arghlex> that and there seems to be some updates going out to cityworld which I *loved* playing on

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L235[06:32:50] <Ivorius> Flenix: ... What

L236[06:33:10] <Ivorius> Firstly, no, never, ever use system time in a game

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L238[06:33:26] <Ivorius> (except for global tick calculation)

L239[06:34:05] <Flenix> Yeah, figured it wasn't a good idea but the only one I could think of currently.

L240[06:34:22] <Ivorius> What do you want to do exactly

L241[06:34:42] <Ivorius> I can guarantee you 100% it's either extrapolation or just calling things more than once

L242[06:35:05] * gigaherz reads up

L243[06:35:12] <gigaherz> ehhh... yeah.

L244[06:35:21] <gigaherz> just explain what you are thinking of doing

L245[06:35:36] <Flenix> I have a gun mod which deals with direct damage instead of the normal "Spawn in a million entities" system. 20 times a second is quite slow for the firerate on some guns - so I want to fire them more. For the actual damage I could probably calculate it still based off 20tps, so it's more for playing sounds

L246[06:35:40] <gigaherz> because trying to get it to happen at shorter intervals won't really work

L247[06:36:22] <gigaherz> uh yeah yo udon't want to spawn > 20 sound effects per second either

L248[06:36:26] <Ivorius> I wouldn't recommend playing a sound more than 20 times a second

L249[06:36:29] <gigaherz> you want a machinegun audio that you can play in a loop

L250[06:36:33] <Ivorius> ^

L251[06:36:49] <Flenix> Hmm, that's a good idea; having multiple firing sounds in one sound trigger

L252[06:37:04] <Flenix> I like that approach, thanks :)

L253[06:37:11] <Ivorius> What? Why multiple

L254[06:37:13] <Ivorius> Just use one loop

L255[06:37:21] <gigaherz> yeah also do the shooting in bursts with those guns

L256[06:37:22] <gigaherz> like

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L258[06:37:35] <gigaherz> I'd have it happen at most 4-5 times a second

L259[06:37:52] <gigaherz> but have like, 50 bullets worth of shooting per burst

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L261[06:38:27] <gigaherz> (or 5, or 10 or whatever)

L262[06:38:53] <gigaherz> fora gun shooting 20 bullets/second, I'd make it 5

L263[06:39:17] <gigaherz> and have 4 bursts per second

L264[06:40:15] <gigaherz> one shooting 50 per second may be 10 per burst, and activate 5 times per second

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L266[06:40:44] <gigaherz> I'd keep the activation number between 4 and 10

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L268[06:41:09] <gigaherz> and adjust the burst size to the nearest fraction

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L274[06:54:14] <masa> ewww I just opened up my 1.7.10 environment

L275[06:54:33] <masa> suddenly started getting crash reports

L276[06:54:52] <masa> NPE when loading items from NBT fails, probably due to some removed mod items

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L319[09:19:48] <Tazz> anyone got a way to get the top block of an x,z coord?

L320[09:20:02] <Tazz> all I see is BlockPos as a param :/

L321[09:22:01] <diesieben07> World#getHeight

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L326[09:26:35] <Tazz> gracias diesieben07

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L336[09:49:52] <Tazz> hmm diesieben07 its not working...

L337[09:49:57] <Tazz> returns -1 :/

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L344[09:59:49] <diesieben07> Tazz, huh it should return a BlockPos first of all

L345[10:00:02] <Tazz> yes but y == -1

L346[10:00:10] <Tazz> BlockPos#getY()that is

L347[10:00:24] <diesieben07> where do you get the position you give it from?

L348[10:00:56] <Tazz> relative to the position of hte player

L349[10:00:58] <diesieben07> also i have to go afk for a bit here... so... later

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L356[10:09:09] <Xilef11> anyone mind telling me what I'm doing wrong with my custom IRecipe? https://gist.github.com/Xilef11/26e608709b8a5d1d65f19a2414233e72

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L361[10:13:05] <masa> well what is wrong with it?

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L363[10:14:14] <Xilef11> its leaving items in the crafting grid and the result does not seem right

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L365[10:24:49] <diesieben07> Tazz, back now, so show your code.

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L367[10:28:04] <gigaherz> Xilef11: remaining items should be the same size as the inventory

L368[10:28:12] <gigaherz> leave the slots null that you don't want to leave in the grid

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L370[10:29:03] <Xilef11> does the index in the returned array matter?

L371[10:29:12] <gigaherz> sortof

L372[10:29:29] <gigaherz> tbh I don't really know

L373[10:29:30] <gigaherz> I haven't really tested that part of it

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L375[10:29:44] <gigaherz> is the item you leave stackable?

L376[10:29:53] <Xilef11> no

L377[10:30:09] <gigaherz> I think it's best if you leave it in thesame slot that it was

L378[10:30:29] <gigaherz> I'm not sure how it works exactly, but I don't know what happens if there was a bigger stack in another slot

L379[10:30:31] <Ivorius> Stackable sounds like a software startup

L380[10:30:48] <gigaherz> or IoT startup

L381[10:30:50] <gigaherz> ;P

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L383[10:31:23] <gigaherz> everything I s ay is coming out slightly wrong today

L384[10:32:26] <gigaherz> I'm looking at the code that uses the recipe

L385[10:33:07] <gigaherz> it uses "addItemStackToInventory"

L386[10:33:14] <gigaherz> so the index shouldn't matter

L387[10:33:27] <gigaherz> wait

L388[10:33:28] <gigaherz> I see

L389[10:33:32] <gigaherz> if the slot you put it in

L390[10:33:34] <gigaherz> is full

L391[10:33:38] <gigaherz> it adds it to the PLAYER inventory

L392[10:33:39] <gigaherz> ifi t's empty

L393[10:33:43] <gigaherz> it puts it back on the grid

L394[10:34:00] <gigaherz> so the ideal situation would be that you return it in the same place

L395[10:34:23] <gigaherz> so that the crafting manager can do the best possible job

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L398[10:43:07] <MrSlick> Pahimar's tutorials mostly work for the first 7 episodes or so, right?

L399[10:43:12] <MrSlick> *in 1.9

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L401[10:43:40] <williewillus> can you link the playlist?

L402[10:43:45] <gigaherz> never seen them

L403[10:44:23] <MrSlick> they are for 1.7

L404[10:44:27] <MrSlick> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6v5egIkThk&list=PLQPiZYWovwmnZlgvbHCbz6TefIgeEiVcj

L405[10:44:36] <gigaherz> then I wouldn't trust anything they say

L406[10:44:37] <gigaherz> ;P

L407[10:44:46] <MrSlick> :(

L408[10:44:46] <gigaherz> 1.7 to 1.9 has changed quite a LOT

L409[10:45:05] <gigaherz> even the way you register blocks and items isn't quite the same

L410[10:45:07] <MrSlick> but would the basic setting up proxies and making your mod class still apply?

L411[10:45:12] <gigaherz> yes

L412[10:45:21] <MrSlick> That's all I needed.

L413[10:45:26] <gigaherz> things that haven't really changed:

L414[10:45:28] <gigaherz> the @mod class

L415[10:45:30] <gigaherz> the proxies

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L417[10:45:38] <gigaherz> the GuiHandler/Gui/Container stuff

L418[10:45:52] <gigaherz> things that have changed a LOT:

L419[10:45:55] <gigaherz> registry system

L420[10:45:57] <gigaherz> models

L421[10:46:09] <MrSlick> darn

L422[10:46:09] <williewillus> yeah basically anything ep8 and after

L423[10:46:12] <williewillus> don't use

L424[10:46:29] <gigaherz> networking is mostly the same

L425[10:46:33] <MrSlick> mhm

L426[10:46:36] <gigaherz> with the exception of threading

L427[10:46:41] <gigaherz> 1.8+ networking has its own thread

L428[10:46:46] <gigaherz> so you need to add protection for that

L429[10:47:07] <gigaherz> http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/gettingstarted/structuring/

L430[10:47:23] <MrSlick> It's been a while since I have touched modding, well minecraft in general. So is this networking thing like a local client to server, where the server handles the world and the client handles how things look?

L431[10:47:40] <gigaherz> yes

L432[10:47:44] <gigaherz> but

L433[10:47:55] <gigaherz> the way it works now, is that even in singleplayer, you have the integrateds erver

L434[10:48:06] <MrSlick> I understand that

L435[10:48:21] <gigaherz> so you should be programming things in a way that the server-side logic and client-side logic are isolated

L436[10:48:46] <gigaherz> there's way too many mods that make use of static fields

L437[10:48:52] <MrSlick> mhm

L438[10:48:54] <gigaherz> which contain "runtime" data

L439[10:49:05] <gigaherz> which they unintentionally share between client and server

L440[10:49:12] <MrSlick> I see

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L442[10:50:00] <gigaherz> http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/concepts/sides/

L443[10:50:02] <gigaherz> recommended reading

L444[10:50:32] <MrSlick> Looking at the docs, http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/conventions/locations/, I see it says to put mcmod.info in the root. But from what I've seen it's in the resource folder. Any explanation?

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L446[10:51:27] <gigaherz> the root of the resources

L447[10:51:30] <gigaherz> ;P

L448[10:51:32] <MrSlick> k

L449[10:51:34] <MrSlick> :P

L450[10:51:49] <gigaherz> everything in the resources folder

L451[10:51:54] <gigaherz> goes straight into the jar

L452[10:51:59] <MrSlick> mhm

L453[10:52:01] <gigaherz> in the same locations that you have in there

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L457[10:53:44] <MrSlick> Is there any tutorial for those neat gradle scripts that every mod on github seems to have?

L458[10:54:17] <gigaherz> hmm jsut the gradledocs themselves, I guess

L459[10:54:33] <gigaherz> I have built mine by takingthings from others' ;P

L460[10:54:33] <MrSlick> I see

L461[10:54:40] <MrSlick> :P

L462[10:54:53] <williewillus> most of them are just the default mdk template

L463[10:54:54] <williewillus> :P

L464[10:54:55] <williewillus> with tweaks

L465[10:55:00] <gigaherz> customized with stuff

L466[10:55:01] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/build.gradle

L467[10:55:14] <gigaherz> mine has those two lines for replacing @VERSION@ in the @mod class

L468[10:55:16] <TehNut> I've just been dicking around with the scripts since they were introduced

L469[10:55:17] <gigaherz> with the actual version

L470[10:55:28] <gigaherz> the other block which makes it java8

L471[10:55:43] <gigaherz> and the one at the end to generate maven-like folders

L472[10:57:08] <MrSlick> mhm

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L478[11:03:56] <synthetica> Hi!

L479[11:04:00] <gigaherz> o/

L480[11:04:27] <synthetica> How are you?

L481[11:04:47] <gigaherz> well I have an ear infection

L482[11:04:52] <gigaherz> so it's a bit itchy/achey

L483[11:04:55] <synthetica> Sorry about that.

L484[11:05:03] <gigaherz> but fine otherwise ;P

L485[11:05:10] <synthetica> Good.

L486[11:06:07] <synthetica> I'm finally back to work on modding.

L487[11:07:11] <gigaherz> :)

L488[11:07:20] <synthetica> feelsgoodman.java

L489[11:07:28] <gigaherz> oh and I recently released this

L490[11:07:28] <gigaherz> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/enderthing

L491[11:07:29] <gigaherz> ;P

L492[11:08:17] <synthetica> I'll look at it! Also, I just realized that clicking links in HexChat actually opens the browser. XChat didn't do that...

L493[11:08:24] <gigaherz> been 17 hours since 0.6.1, ~100 downloads, and no one has complained that they lost items /o\

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L495[11:09:08] <synthetica> Nice! It looks pretty cool.

L496[11:09:35] <synthetica> Sort of a spiritual successor to CB's EnderStorage. I like it.

L497[11:09:40] <MrSlick> So, I am using a ModInfo class for handling my modid, version, name, and etc. Is this fine or should I look into using gradle for this?

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L499[11:10:02] <gigaherz> it's ok

L500[11:10:18] <MrSlick> K

L501[11:10:21] <gigaherz> but the gradle file is the one that updates the mcmod.info

L502[11:10:32] <synthetica> I use my own main mod file, but I'm messy and I wouldn't recommend it.

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L504[11:10:35] <gigaherz> so I prefer to have gradle replace the version string on build instead

L505[11:10:43] <MrSlick> Ito doesnt seem to update the mcmod.info in the example mod tho

L506[11:10:43] <synthetica> Actually, I should really fix that.

L507[11:10:54] <gigaherz> it does on build

L508[11:10:54] <gigaherz> as in

L509[11:10:57] <gigaherz> when you compile the jar

L510[11:11:02] <MrSlick> ohhhh

L511[11:11:04] <gigaherz> not during normal debugging

L512[11:11:08] <synthetica> The gradle file automatically updates mcmod.info?

L513[11:11:14] <gigaherz> yes

L514[11:11:19] <synthetica> That's cool.

L515[11:11:28] <gigaherz> expand 'version':project.version, 'mcversion':project.minecraft.version

L516[11:13:34] <synthetica> Well, never knew that. Thanks!

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L523[11:21:31] <williewillus> "If we want to support wildcards, we'll need some VM help. And we need to make some progress towards bringing non-erased instantiations into the raw type / wildcard fold."

L524[11:21:36] <williewillus> sooo..reification? :D

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L527[11:22:10] <synthetica> What the heck is wrong with getVersionJson?

L528[11:22:31] <synthetica> It's consistently taking minutes and then not working...

L529[11:22:41] <williewillus> whatever its pointing to is down

L530[11:22:51] <synthetica> Thanks.

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L533[11:28:50] <vox> tterrag: if you're around I'd like to talk about CTM some more

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L536[11:42:16] <Xilef11> Is there a way for a custom recipe to remove a whole stack from the grid instead of just one item?

L537[11:42:48] <gigaherz> dunno but that goes against the crafting system

L538[11:42:52] <LexMobile> 9:22 <synthetica> What the heck is wrong with getVersionJson?

L539[11:42:55] <gigaherz> you probably want a custom machine for that

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L541[11:43:01] <LexMobile> Most likely your url is wrong

L542[11:43:06] <capitalthree> Xilef11: vanilla crafting can't. that's why some mods define their own things. like "ic2 crafting" or whatnot

L543[11:43:20] <capitalthree> I am pretty sure you can make your own modified form of crafting work in vanilla crafting tables

L544[11:43:33] <Xilef11> I see... how would I do that?

L545[11:43:38] <capitalthree> but probably not in vanilla-expecting autocrafting blocks

L546[11:43:39] <gigaherz> nah IRecipes remove one from the stacks

L547[11:43:45] <gigaherz> then add back whatever you give as remaining

L548[11:43:49] <LexMobile> No it doesnt

L549[11:44:01] <LexMobile> It allows you to remove as much as you want

L550[11:44:06] <gigaherz> does it?

L551[11:44:07] <Ordinastie_> from 1.8 yes

L552[11:44:11] <capitalthree> oh! ok cool

L553[11:44:18] <Ordinastie_> or 1.8.9 maybe, don't remember

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L555[11:45:07] <Ordinastie_> yeah, since 1.8 apparently

L556[11:45:09] <synthetica> Hmm... thank you L_e_x (is that a good way not to use your full name?) I have a completely stock build.gradle of the latest forge version though. The only difference is the version and names for my own mod.

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L558[11:45:18] <gigaherz> uhm but, if the slot in the crafting table isn't empty

L559[11:45:19] <gigaherz> it just does

L560[11:45:23] <LexMobile> Yes it has a function for setting the entire resulting grid

L561[11:45:23] <gigaherz> this.craftMatrix.decrStackSize(i, 1);

L562[11:45:30] <gigaherz> oh I see

L563[11:45:38] <gigaherz> so you can bypass that part

L564[11:45:43] <LexMobile> Ya

L565[11:46:22] <Ordinastie_> https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisDoors/blob/1.8.9/src/main/java/net/malisis/doors/recipe/BigDoorRecipe.java#L114

L566[11:46:45] <gigaherz> oh so you just set the slot, lol

L567[11:46:46] <capitalthree> synthetica: I think saying lex is ok, just not the full nickname

L568[11:46:55] <synthetica> Okay, thanks. :P

L569[11:47:08] <capitalthree> I got in trouble for that once because he was saying my full nickname and I assumed it was ok since he was actively chatting anyways

L570[11:47:11] <capitalthree> that assumption was wrong :P

L571[11:47:17] <gigaherz> he always uses something longer than just "lex", so that "lex" alone won't ping

L572[11:47:22] <williewillus> !gf field_174840_a

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L574[11:50:14] <synthetica> makes sense.

L575[11:50:47] <williewillus> hmm i wonder why xp orbs are grey on pickup

L576[11:51:30] <synthetica> Asking the deep questions.

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L578[11:53:28] <synthetica> He was saying I probably have the URL wrong. What should it be? For me, it's http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven

L579[11:54:25] <synthetica> And that's the default.

L580[11:54:28] <gigaherz> well that url is obviously wrong

L581[11:54:41] <synthetica> I haven't touched it, though.

L582[11:55:06] <gigaherz> wait you said update url

L583[11:55:10] <gigaherz> I thought you meant the @Mod one

L584[11:55:36] <gigaherz> if you mean the "maven url" in the build script

L585[11:55:42] <gigaherz> that's different

L586[11:55:55] <synthetica> Dang... what am I looking for then?

L587[11:56:12] <gigaherz> what are you trying to do?

L588[11:56:51] <gigaherz> I'm confused now

L589[11:57:08] <synthetica> I'm trying to setupDecompWorkspace. getVersionJson hangs for a while then stops. I've already been to the ForgeGradle channel and I got no reply.

L590[11:57:14] <gigaherz> ah

L591[11:58:17] <gigaherz> works here

L592[11:58:29] <gigaherz> :getVersionJson

L593[11:58:29] <gigaherz> :extractUserdev

L594[11:58:29] <gigaherz> Download http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.9-12.16.0.1868-1.9/forge-1.9-12.16.0.1868-1.9.pom

L595[11:58:50] <gigaherz> internet issues?

L596[12:00:41] <synthetica> Well, when I run the task from a terminal, I actually get the error. It says that I have another Gradle instance running, but I most certainly don't.

L597[12:01:13] <synthetica> It's strange, though. Maybe it would make sense if I actually had another running, but I do not so it doesn't really make sense.

L598[12:02:21] <williewillus> fry: where the bot at? :P

L599[12:05:01] <synthetica> Gonna restart my computer.

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L603[12:07:51] <synthetica> Well, I'm stupid. It works!

L604[12:07:54] <LexMobile> Oh thats a compleelty different thing

L605[12:08:09] <LexMobile> Thats you having network issues with mojangs servers

L606[12:08:36] <synthetica> Well, apparently not. I restarted my computer and it works.

L607[12:09:06] <synthetica> I really should've done that first thing.

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L610[12:15:02] <Nosirrom> is there an entity id that persists when you restart the game?

L611[12:15:46] <Nosirrom> i'm trying to store a reference to an entity in an itemstack

L612[12:16:10] <diesieben07> the UUID

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L615[12:16:52] <diesieben07> entity.getPersistendID

L616[12:17:03] <diesieben07> thats not how you spelll persistent... oh well

L617[12:18:31] <Nosirrom> too bad there is no world.getEntityByUUID

L618[12:18:58] <diesieben07> WorldServer#getEntityFromUuid

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L620[12:20:35] <Nosirrom> damn

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L626[12:37:59] <gigaherz> hmmm how'd I push the player upward?

L627[12:38:06] <gigaherz> addVelocity works on other entities but not the player :&

L628[12:38:08] <gigaherz> :/*

L629[12:38:15] <williewillus> are yo doign it clientside?

L630[12:38:19] <gigaherz> no

L631[12:38:25] <williewillus> client controls player motions

L632[12:38:27] <gigaherz> is there no way to push from the server?

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L634[12:38:36] <williewillus> uh there should be

L635[12:38:50] <williewillus> 1.9 collision is appleid serverside I think

L636[12:39:00] <LatvianModder> I'm Dev-streaming \o/ https://beam.pro/LatvianModder

L637[12:39:38] <gigaherz> applyEntityCollision uses addVelocity

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L639[12:39:54] <williewillus> then maybe its not serverside xD

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L641[12:41:37] <gigaherz> hmm I think those collisions are done on both sides

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L643[12:41:53] <gigaherz> I'll have to have some crap to push players, I guess

L644[12:42:09] <gigaherz> send a special packet that pushes them clientside too

L645[12:42:57] <DJ_Arghlex> now what could POSSIBLY be using codechickencore in my modlist right now

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L647[12:43:11] <DJ_Arghlex> I thought the dude who made that renamed it or something

L648[12:43:13] <williewillus> gigaherz: that's what explosions do btw :P

L649[12:43:26] <williewillus> they send the client player knockbacks

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L653[12:51:51] <DJ_Arghlex> hmm....

L654[12:52:06] <DJ_Arghlex> are you perhaps making a elytra mod?

L655[12:52:15] <DJ_Arghlex> or something to augment them?

L656[12:52:33] <Zaggy1024> haha I just realized ItemColored does nothing if you pass false to the hasSubtypes parameter in 1.9

L657[12:52:48] <Zaggy1024> since item coloring isn't a method in Item anymore

L658[12:53:33] <Zaggy1024> well, actually, it could do something if someone sets the subtype names, but it would be quite screwy that way

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L667[13:07:28] <Nosirrom> weird, I can totally save int and string in nbt but seems to not save uniqueid

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L670[13:09:02] <williewillus> use the UUID -> long methods

L671[13:09:28] <williewillus> getLeastSignificantBits and getMostSignificantBits

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L676[13:17:26] <Nosirrom> Thanks a bunch, everything is working now.

L677[13:17:57] <gigaherz> for reference: https://github.com/gigaherz/Enderthing/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderthing/storage/InventoryManager.java#L127,L142

L678[13:18:00] <gigaherz> this is how I store it

L679[13:18:44] <Xilef11> is there a sneaky way to cancel rendering of certain layers of an item's model (based on NBT), or am I better off just using a different model based on meta?

L680[13:18:56] <gigaherz> OMG THIS IS AWESOME

L681[13:18:59] <gigaherz> video soon :D

L682[13:20:21] <williewillus> Xilef11: all layers are combined into one when baking

L683[13:20:27] <williewillus> so you need to use different ones

L684[13:20:27] <Zaggy1024> ugh, returning success from onItemRightClick doesn't make the player swing their arm?

L685[13:20:37] <williewillus> of course not :P

L686[13:20:44] <williewillus> do you swing your arm when throwing ender pearls/snowballs?

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L688[13:20:55] <Zaggy1024> you should :P

L689[13:21:14] <gigaherz> okay so while the video uploads to my dropbox:

L690[13:21:18] <williewillus> fry: where did Actuarius go :P

L691[13:21:23] <gigaherz> my magic mod had an air spell

L692[13:21:26] <gigaherz> that would push things around

L693[13:21:28] <williewillus> (hits tab a million times trying to autocomplete the name)

L694[13:21:32] <gigaherz> I modifiedit so that

L695[13:21:36] <gigaherz> if it's applied in "self" mode

L696[13:21:41] <gigaherz> it pushes in the direction you look

L697[13:21:50] <gigaherz> combine with elytra: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/MC/2016-05-01-2019-19.mp4

L698[13:21:55] <Xilef11> but getColorFromItemStack separates layers with the render pass, so maybe a way to cancel a render pass?

L699[13:22:01] <williewillus> those aren't render passes

L700[13:22:06] <williewillus> I need to change my primer

L701[13:22:10] <williewillus> and that param name is wrong

L702[13:22:12] <Zaggy1024> if I call player.swingArm will the server tell all clients to show the player swinging his arm?

L703[13:22:19] <williewillus> yes

L704[13:22:22] <gigaherz> they aresimply different texture quads

L705[13:22:42] <gigaherz> it uses the tint index to modify the color before sending them off to the tesellator

L706[13:22:53] <williewillus> it's all 1 render pass now

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L708[13:25:10] <williewillus> primer updated to clarify that :P

L709[13:25:29] <gigaherz> anyone saw the video? ;P

L710[13:26:08] <gigaherz> I'm uploading that to youtube too ;P

L711[13:26:55] <Nosirrom> modded 1.9 is going to be great ^

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L714[13:27:15] <gigaherz> Nosirrom: Backlytra ;P

L715[13:27:17] <fry> williewillus: ^

L716[13:27:21] <Biochemic> nice video :D

L717[13:27:22] <williewillus> thx

L718[13:27:26] <Biochemic> i like ^^

L719[13:27:28] <unascribed> hey ping words

L720[13:27:30] <unascribed> they work

L721[13:27:32] <unascribed> hi i made backlytra

L722[13:28:03] <unascribed> ._.

L723[13:28:14] <unascribed> and I thought Psi+Elytra was overpowered

L724[13:28:24] <TehNut> gigaherz: Yeah we discovered that during the BM port http://tehnut.info/share/lWUkFELW8Y.mp4

L725[13:28:33] <gigaherz> unascribed: that's a CREATIVE staff

L726[13:28:56] <gigaherz> oooh air sigils, didn't think of those

L727[13:30:46] <williewillus> the animation of the wings was pretty well done

L728[13:31:00] <williewillus> like how when he dives the wings come together and when you go horizontally it spreads out

L729[13:31:14] <gigaherz> yeh

L730[13:31:26] <Biochemic> it's very cool yeah :DD

L731[13:31:27] <gigaherz> they feel so much more natural that any glider

L732[13:31:32] <gigaherz> than*

L733[13:32:42] <Biochemic> but the idea of an propelled glider would also be awesome, i guess ^^

L734[13:32:51] <gigaherz> yeh

L735[13:33:01] <unascribed> yeah, for infinite flight I think jetboots would work really well

L736[13:33:02] <gigaherz> I donsidered making some sort of thing for the feet slot

L737[13:33:14] <gigaherz> meh jetboots are too high-tech

L738[13:33:17] <gigaherz> ;P

L739[13:33:17] <PaleoCrafter> oh, I haven't thought about combining my metal abilities with an elytra yet xD will make for some great travelling if I ever finish this mod xD

L740[13:33:23] <DJ_Arghlex> propeller boots

L741[13:33:28] <gigaherz> i wasthinking more like a pedal-powered fan

L742[13:33:37] <DJ_Arghlex> or a pair of pants with a similar design

L743[13:33:38] <gigaherz> that goes in the feet slot

L744[13:33:41] <Biochemic> yep ^^

L745[13:33:41] <unascribed> bicyclytra

L746[13:33:54] <gigaherz> like an unicycle

L747[13:33:59] <gigaherz> but instead of a wheel, a fan

L748[13:34:03] <Biochemic> actually then very relaxing, when travelling long distances ^^

L749[13:34:03] <gigaherz> pointing down

L750[13:34:10] <Biochemic> ah okay :D

L751[13:36:29] <Biochemic> bottom would be also easier to implement, since no real math is needed to just accelerate the player against the gravity ^^

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L754[13:42:43] <Andrey96> Hello. I have a problem with shift-click in my container. It ignores isItemValidForSlot in my IInventory implementation and isItemValid in my Slot and just puts it in.

L755[13:44:14] <gigaherz> the default slot doesn't use that

L756[13:44:21] <gigaherz> it's meant for hoppers and such

L757[13:44:41] <gigaherz> if you want to limit what can go in a slot, you have to use a custom Slot class that filters the slot

L758[13:44:42] <masa> where are client side command registered to?

L759[13:44:45] <masa> +s

L760[13:45:05] <Andrey96> I have custom Slot class.

L761[13:45:05] <gigaherz> wait shift-click

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L763[13:45:24] <gigaherz> can you show your transfer method?

L764[13:45:37] <Andrey96> It is default from minecraftforge wiki.

L765[13:45:37] <masa> Andrey96: are you in 1.8.9+?

L766[13:45:44] <Andrey96> 1.7.10

L767[13:47:27] <Andrey96> Is transferStackInSlot method used to transfer stack from my container or into it?

L768[13:47:27] <capitalthree> you can type commands~ I've got slots for what I hold in my hands~

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L770[13:48:45] <masa> Andrey96: it is used to transfer a stack FROM the slot that is given as parameter

L771[13:49:36] <masa> my code for it is quite heavily customized at this point, but you can take a look if it helps you:

L772[13:49:39] <masa> https://github.com/maruohon/enderutilities/blob/MC_1.7.10_0.5.x/src/main/java/fi/dy/masa/enderutilities/inventory/ContainerEnderUtilities.java

L773[13:50:00] <gigaherz> hmm you can travel around 12000 blocks with one max-level fully-charged staff, and sub-optimal gliding skills

L774[13:50:09] <Andrey96> I've got it, seems that I have to add check somewhere in this method. Thanks for the link, it really can help.

L775[13:50:15] <gigaherz> probably 20k if you did it truly right

L776[13:50:42] <Zaggy1024> oh my...

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L778[13:51:24] <Zaggy1024> the player's angles aren't sent with the packet to tell the server that onItemRightClick was called

L779[13:51:44] <Zaggy1024> so you can place a lily pad in a different position on the client than on the server if you move your aim fast enough

L780[13:52:01] <williewillus> yeah

L781[13:52:04] <williewillus> it's been like that forever

L782[13:52:06] <Zaggy1024> although it's quite easy to do if you aim right next to the edge between two water blocks

L783[13:52:09] <Zaggy1024> ugh, that's stupid

L784[13:52:19] <masa> is that the same bug where you "always" manage to place a slab in the wrong position? :p

L785[13:52:20] <williewillus> it makes sense

L786[13:52:22] <Zaggy1024> how hard can that be to fix? :P

L787[13:52:23] <williewillus> yes

L788[13:52:24] <gigaherz> why do you think playing "lily-drop" isso hard?

L789[13:52:31] <williewillus> it's easy to fix

L790[13:52:40] <williewillus> have the server validate every. single. block placement

L791[13:52:43] <williewillus> before the client shows it

L792[13:52:44] <Zaggy1024> lily-drop?

L793[13:52:52] <Zaggy1024> erm

L794[13:52:54] <gigaherz> a game where you have a lilypad in your hand

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L796[13:52:58] <Zaggy1024> that'd contribute to some lovely lag

L797[13:52:58] <williewillus> but then that causes latency issues when you are jump stacking or otherwise placing blocks quickly

L798[13:52:59] <gigaherz> and you drop onto a pool

L799[13:53:04] <gigaherz> and haveto place a lilypad as you fall

L800[13:53:07] <williewillus> that was actually a bug in 1.3.x

L801[13:53:24] <williewillus> jump stacking was happening faster on the client than it took the server to respond so players would glitch out

L802[13:53:26] <Zaggy1024> the simplest solution is to just send the way the player is facing

L803[13:53:41] <gigaherz> or send position/angles update alongwith the interactions?

L804[13:53:41] <Zaggy1024> and set that before the server does anything

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L806[13:53:53] <Zaggy1024> indeed, exactly giga

L807[13:53:56] <williewillus> well the block is placed on both sides

L808[13:53:59] <williewillus> so it wouldn't matter

L809[13:54:04] <Zaggy1024> yes it would

L810[13:54:13] <Zaggy1024> because the server would know where the client is actually placing the lily

L811[13:54:26] <williewillus> the point of the bug is the client moves after it has sent packet to the server

L812[13:54:33] <Zaggy1024> no..

L813[13:54:37] <williewillus> yes? :P

L814[13:54:43] <Zaggy1024> the bug is because the server is lagging behind the client's aim

L815[13:54:54] <Zaggy1024> the client places the lily pad where it sees the player looking

L816[13:54:57] <williewillus> exactly because of the reason I just said

L817[13:55:07] <Zaggy1024> the server places the lily pad where it thought the player was looking based on the last position update

L818[13:55:25] <Zaggy1024> so the server needs to be sent the actual angles the player is trying to place at

L819[13:55:45] <Zaggy1024> the client isn't moving after the packet is sent

L820[13:55:57] <Zaggy1024> because the packet is sent at exactly the moment that the lily pad is placed

L821[13:56:06] <Zaggy1024> well, pretty much

L822[13:56:34] <Zaggy1024> the packet is sent after onItemRightClick is called on the client I believe

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L825[14:02:01] <Xilef11> I'm trying to put an item in a bag when it's picked up, and it's not doing anything... https://gist.github.com/Xilef11/77f997672b7c414ed9281b61ffd3090a#file-pickuphandler-java-L25

L826[14:03:44] <Tazz> why...why does this shit happen

L827[14:03:52] <Tazz> minecraft isnt loading my textures >.<

L828[14:04:03] <Tazz> every time I work on a mod this always happens

L829[14:04:19] <gigaherz> elcipse or idea?

L830[14:04:35] <Tazz> idea

L831[14:04:40] <gigaherz> try adding

L832[14:04:40] <gigaherz> idea { module.inheritOutputDirs = true }

L833[14:04:46] <gigaherz> at the end of your build.gradle

L834[14:04:55] <gigaherz> and using the refresh icon on the gradle panel

L835[14:05:43] <gigaherz> it shouldn't be needed anymore but /shrug

L836[14:05:49] <gigaherz> if it helps it helps :p

L837[14:05:51] <DJ_Arghlex> hmm

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L839[14:08:52] <Tazz> nope did nothing to help

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L846[14:23:53] <FusionLord> is there something that I need to do in my ItemBlock to enable the "transform" tag in my blockstate? because for three days now I have not been able to get the transform key to work for anything but sub models...

L847[14:24:30] <FusionLord> https://github.com/FusionLord/Hardcore-Nomad/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/hardcorenomad/blockstates/items/enchantingtable.json#L5

L848[14:25:03] <TehNut> Um

L849[14:25:07] <TehNut> scale is an x, y, z

L850[14:25:19] <williewillus> TehNut: it can be a single number

L851[14:25:21] <williewillus> according to the spec

L852[14:25:28] <williewillus> which is just shorthand for the same thing for all axes

L853[14:25:41] <TehNut> well it doesn't hurt to try

L854[14:25:52] <TehNut> But nice to know

L855[14:26:24] <FusionLord> TehNut, that isn't the only thing I have also tried rotation, I've tried every possible option in the blockstate

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L857[14:27:31] <TehNut> Does it work in 1.8?

L858[14:27:50] <FusionLord> I'd have to back port

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L860[14:28:20] <williewillus> mmm

L861[14:28:23] <TehNut> Theoretically you could drop that blockstate+model into any 1.8 source and it would work

L862[14:28:25] <FusionLord> I' guess I'll backport and find out

L863[14:28:31] <williewillus> whats a good 1.8 midgame tico tool

L864[14:28:53] <williewillus> also gotta to prune my nether chunks so things regen\

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L869[14:30:31] <FusionLord> just noticed there is a newer forge, gonna try that first

L870[14:31:38] <williewillus> are there any other mc world editors that support forge?

L871[14:31:40] <williewillus> besides mcedit

L872[14:32:32] <FusionLord> WorldEdit? http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/worldedit

L873[14:33:00] <williewillus> out of world

L874[14:33:04] <williewillus> i want to prune chunks

L875[14:33:05] <TehNut> I never bother with MCEdit. I just nuke region files

L876[14:33:47] <Biochemic> having fun with random bytes and watching, what happens xDD

L877[14:34:34] <williewillus> Biochemic: random byets of what

L878[14:34:55] <Biochemic> of your... brainstream ^^

L879[14:35:13] <Biochemic> inserting random bytes in the region files :P

L880[14:36:02] <FusionLord> williewillus, with WorldEdit you can //chunk and then //delchunks

L881[14:36:52] <FusionLord> cheat sheet here https://cloud.github.com/downloads/sk89q/worldedit/worldedit_ref_rev6.pdf

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L883[14:39:23] <masa> I used MCEdit in the 2D chun mode or whatever when I pruned my worlds

L884[14:39:27] <masa> *chunk

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L886[14:39:44] <williewillus> 2d chunk mode? that's a thing? :P

L887[14:39:48] <williewillus> is this the new or old one

L888[14:39:56] <masa> old one

L889[14:40:11] <masa> I still don't know how to use the new one, the user interface seems overly confusing

L890[14:40:31] <masa> first time I tried it it took me like 10 minutes to figure out how to load a world :D

L891[14:42:41] <masa> I did use mcedit2 once when I was doing NBT tag renames in my mod, to fix my test world so that I didn't lose items

L892[14:43:51] <masa> the NBT search & replace in it is pretty handy

L893[14:44:02] <masa> but that too had some usability issues at least for me...

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L899[14:48:28] <FusionLord> figured it out, seems the rotation at the bottom was causing the transform key to be overriden

L900[14:48:31] <FusionLord> >.>

L901[14:48:52] <williewillus> ugh

L902[14:49:01] <williewillus> the mcedit ui is completely broken on tiling window managers :P

L903[14:49:07] <williewillus> Cinnamon time

L904[14:49:11] <FusionLord> its been 3+ days i agree ugh

L905[14:49:12] <FusionLord> :P

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L909[14:55:50] <FusionLord> hmmm... submodels cannot be added in defaults?

L910[14:57:40] <__0x277F> Does the 'mclocation' property in a coremod's injectData method store a String or a File?

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L913[14:58:37] <williewillus> print the class and see :P

L914[15:01:27] <LatvianModder> probably File

L915[15:02:29] <__0x277F> Well, that's interesting.

L916[15:02:42] <__0x277F> Getting an npe on just trying to print the class name.

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L918[15:02:56] <__0x277F> Don't say a word as I check my spelling.

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L920[15:04:31] <__0x277F> Okay, it's a file.

L921[15:04:54] <shortybsd> Any infinite raining issues in Forge build 1866 for 1.9? Ever since I upgraded the world has been raining non-stop. Even as OP and typing /weather clear is ignored.

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L924[15:09:46] <Zaggy1024> shorty, is that the specific version it started happening in?

L925[15:10:03] <FusionLord> wish slot drawing used scissors

L926[15:11:06] <shortybsd> Zaggy, I went from 1864 to 1866 then noticed it was raining 24/7. I haven't added any new mods and if a mod is to blame i would love to know which is responsible for doing it. Very annoying.

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L929[15:12:29] <williewillus> it's a vanilla bug

L930[15:12:51] <williewillus> /weather clear <number> the number is ignored

L931[15:12:55] <williewillus> but i thought it was fixed

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L933[15:13:30] <shortybsd> So is a mod to blame for this?

L934[15:13:35] <williewillus> probably not

L935[15:13:50] <shortybsd> Why did it just start happening after updating forge itself?

L936[15:14:51] <shortybsd> Or do you know of any other way to make it stop raining, so many people with dinosaur computers constantly bitching about it.

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L938[15:15:08] <williewillus> weather clear should work, try toggledownfall

L939[15:15:26] <williewillus> or if all else fails go to level.dat and set the rain flag to 0/false :P

L940[15:15:40] <shortybsd> tried both, it stops for literally a split second, then immediately starts raining again.

L941[15:16:09] <williewillus> lol

L942[15:16:17] <williewillus> actually may be a mod

L943[15:16:17] <williewillus> what do you have installed?

L944[15:16:27] <shortybsd> i'll get you a server list of mods.

L945[15:16:30] <shortybsd> one second.

L946[15:19:09] <williewillus> what forge version did you update from -> to?

L947[15:19:17] <shortybsd> 1864 to 1866

L948[15:20:30] <shortybsd> has to goto 1866 due to TechReborn

L949[15:20:35] <shortybsd> s/has/had

L950[15:20:42] <williewillus> its not forge then

L951[15:20:51] <modmuss50> what up?

L952[15:21:03] <williewillus> hes getting infinite rain :P

L953[15:21:04] <shortybsd> sup modmuss50

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L955[15:21:26] <williewillus> but the only change from 1864 to 1866 is an event I added for boss bar rendering and a shield crash fix

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L959[15:23:15] <shortybsd> What utility should i use to edit level.dat? MCEdit?

L960[15:23:44] <DJ_Arghlex> probably your best bet

L961[15:23:52] <williewillus> no

L962[15:23:54] <shortybsd> or NBTExplorer

L963[15:23:55] <williewillus> any nbt editor

L964[15:23:58] <williewillus> NBTExplorer yeah

L965[15:23:59] <shortybsd> gotcha, thanks

L966[15:24:03] <DJ_Arghlex> on

L967[15:24:13] <DJ_Arghlex> I misunderstood your goal

L968[15:25:30] <shortybsd> for level.dat it shows raining: 0 and rainTime: 1

L969[15:26:04] <williewillus> interesting

L970[15:26:15] <williewillus> rainTime is the ticks until raining is toggled

L971[15:26:42] <williewillus> the fact that its exactly on 1 means someone set it

L972[15:26:49] <williewillus> most likely

L973[15:26:51] <FusionLord> anyone know it the w and h of glscissors are relitive to the x and y?

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L975[15:27:34] <shortybsd> had to be MCEdit that done so, i had to remove a tinker's construct smeltry due to someone accidently shift clicking chiseled stone in it, which crashed anyone in the area.

L976[15:27:49] <diesieben07> FusionLord, https://www.opengl.org/sdk/docs/man2/xhtml/glScissor.xml

L977[15:27:51] <williewillus> but once it reaches 0 it should be reset to another value

L978[15:27:55] <shortybsd> williewillus, what should the default value be?

L979[15:28:00] <williewillus> for now just set raining to 0 and rainTime to something big

L980[15:28:36] <shortybsd> i'll pull up another world to see real quick

L981[15:29:04] <shortybsd> 60922

L982[15:29:08] <FusionLord> diesieben07, that doesn't say that they are or arent...

L983[15:29:27] <diesieben07> it says all you need to know

L984[15:29:34] <diesieben07> x and y are the bottom left corner of a box

L985[15:29:38] <diesieben07> w and h are width and height of this box

L986[15:29:40] <williewillus> shortybsd: every time it reaches 0 raining is toggled and rainTime should be reset to some high value

L987[15:29:41] <diesieben07> both in window coords

L988[15:29:50] <williewillus> somehow i think its constantly resetting to low values

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L990[15:30:09] <shortybsd> williewillus: going to hard set it to an integar then check it.

L991[15:30:34] <shortybsd> s/integar/integer

L992[15:31:56] <williewillus> uh what tools do you need to mine cobalt again

L993[15:32:02] <williewillus> does a diamond pick work

L994[15:32:08] <shortybsd> No

L995[15:32:26] <shortybsd> what mods do you have? Botania terrasteel works good

L996[15:32:35] <shortybsd> rf tools with max mining upgrade works good

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L998[15:32:38] <williewillus> i haven't started botania yet

L999[15:32:44] <shortybsd> TC you'll need at least manyullyn

L1000[15:32:53] <williewillus> wat

L1001[15:33:01] <williewillus> but manyullyn needs cobalt to make?

L1002[15:33:05] <williewillus> 1.9: botania, psi, quark, tico, BM

L1003[15:33:15] <shortybsd> no TC?

L1004[15:33:25] <shortybsd> if not then you gotta get rolling with botania :)

L1005[15:33:27] <williewillus> no 1.9 thaumcraft

L1006[15:33:40] <Nosirrom> throw some chainmail into smeltery and get some steel

L1007[15:33:53] <williewillus> no steel in 1.8+ tico

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L1009[15:33:55] <williewillus> i don't see it at least

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L1012[15:35:35] <williewillus> doesnt sound right - the only thing that can mine cobalt is the thing made of cobalt, or something from another mod? :P

L1013[15:38:38] <gigaherz> obsidian

L1014[15:38:42] <gigaherz> they made obsidian replace alumite

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L1016[15:38:51] <shortybsd> williewillus, do you have tinkers' construct?

L1017[15:39:00] <williewillus> yes

L1018[15:39:04] <williewillus> thats why i haev cobalt :P

L1019[15:39:06] <shortybsd> alumite then upgrade to ardite

L1020[15:39:25] <gigaherz> shortybsd: no alumite anymore in 1.8.9

L1021[15:39:51] <shortybsd> my modpack come from 1.8.9 into 1.9

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L1023[15:40:27] <gigaherz> unless they added it back to 1.9

L1024[15:40:35] <shortybsd> ahh i used obsidian with a sharpening stone

L1025[15:40:55] <gigaherz> i just used obsidian?

L1026[15:40:59] <shortybsd> obsidian pick, then sharpened with diamond. yes

L1027[15:41:09] <gigaherz> at least in the Pioneers pack, it can mine ardite and cobalt

L1028[15:41:34] <shortybsd> yup that's it, just verified in game

L1029[15:42:37] <gigaherz> Terra Swoop Force is the best adventure map I have played in ages

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L1031[15:46:11] <MrSlick> Where do I get the LogHelper class?

L1032[15:47:14] <gigaherz> never heard of it

L1033[15:48:23] <TehNut> LogHelper is usually a class that modders make

L1034[15:48:27] <TehNut> It's not provided to you

L1035[15:48:33] <MrSlick> oh

L1036[15:48:46] <Biochemic> but it always has a similar Structure

L1037[15:48:52] <MrSlick> I was just thinking since it seems everyone has one that there is a standardized one

L1038[15:49:07] <gigaherz> why not just use MyMod.logger.whatever("message")

L1039[15:49:22] <gigaherz> where whatever = debug/warn/error/...

L1040[15:49:34] <MrSlick> idk

L1041[15:49:54] <Biochemic> Because people think, it's too complicated, long whatever

L1042[15:49:59] <Biochemic> you know their resons :D

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L1046[15:57:32] <FusionLord> diesieben07, your response in ... Helped me Thanks. http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=19948.0

L1047[16:02:15] <FusionLord> anyone know what class renders the hotbar?

L1048[16:02:21] <williewillus> GuiIngame

L1049[16:02:28] <williewillus> and/or GuiIngameForge

L1050[16:05:56] <williewillus> gigaherz: the visuals of maps have gotten so much better from models

L1051[16:06:16] <gigaherz> yeh but it's not specifically the models

L1052[16:06:23] <williewillus> in general too

L1053[16:06:33] <williewillus> most of the effects i don't even know how they're done anymore :P

L1054[16:07:02] <gigaherz> it's BIG, so much detail, etc

L1055[16:09:26] <FusionLord> thoughts on scissoring slots? http://puu.sh/oCPaU/7255de9cb5.png

L1056[16:09:45] <williewillus> im really bad at elytra flying ... :P

L1057[16:10:08] <gigaherz> really? it's quite easy ;P

L1058[16:10:22] <gigaherz> feels natural to me ;p

L1059[16:10:46] <gigaherz> point down, you gain speed and lose altitude faste

L1060[16:10:47] <gigaherz> r

L1061[16:10:55] <gigaherz> point up, and you lose speed but gain some altitude

L1062[16:10:57] <williewillus> pointing is strange to me

L1063[16:11:01] <williewillus> i keep pressing keys

L1064[16:11:23] <diesieben07> FusionLord, better would be to scale properly :p

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L1067[16:11:33] <diesieben07> maybe

L1068[16:11:46] <gigaherz> FusionLord: I considered something like that

L1069[16:11:48] <FusionLord> diesieben07, they're 2 blocks wide :/

L1070[16:12:04] <gigaherz> decided to just scale down

L1071[16:12:38] <diesieben07> or use a separate item model

L1072[16:13:25] <gigaherz> you could cut and rotate the model externally, and load one that is purposefully scaled to fit exactly in theslot, without having to somehow "hack" the scissoring rect into the item rendering

L1073[16:13:25] <gigaherz> ;p

L1074[16:13:48] <FusionLord> meh... probably right, because right now, it is overriding vanilla classes, is patching @ run time a thing that can be done?

L1075[16:14:13] <FusionLord> easily *

L1076[16:15:02] <diesieben07> plus, probably not the best for performacne to scissor for every single slot

L1077[16:17:13] <gigaherz> well using shaders, it could be done so that a first pass paints the pixels corresponding to each slot with an identifier, into the stencil buffer, and then the actual rendering draws with the stencil function set to compare for numbers equal to their slot ID hmm

L1078[16:17:31] <gigaherz> but meh, mc doesn't work that way ;p

L1079[16:17:43] <diesieben07> wheee advanced opengl

L1080[16:17:45] <diesieben07> right over my head

L1081[16:19:14] <gigaherz> stencil buffer is normally used for performing "inside/outside" tests, so like, you draw all the water volumes into the gpu, set to increment the stencil buffer every time they draw

L1082[16:19:29] <gigaherz> then when you draw the final scene, all the vertices with "odd" stencil count, are underwater

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L1099[17:07:40] <LatvianModder> Am I doing Capabilities rcorrectly? https://github.com/LatvianModder/Silicio/tree/1.9/src/main/java/latmod/silicio/api/tile/energy

L1100[17:07:44] <LatvianModder> And implementation: https://github.com/LatvianModder/Silicio/blob/1.9/src/main/java/latmod/silicio/tile/TileESU.java

L1101[17:08:30] <williewillus> why does "canReceiveEnergy" not retuyrn bool :P

L1102[17:08:36] <williewillus> and yeah that's the idea

L1103[17:08:58] <LatvianModder> so you can.. er... I had a VERY GOOD reason, ok? :P

L1104[17:09:06] <LatvianModder> I just forgot it

L1105[17:09:07] <williewillus> comment your public interfaces xD

L1106[17:09:30] <gigaherz> looks fine, as far as capbilities go

L1107[17:09:34] <williewillus> also I'd move CapabilitySilEnergyTank into the mod, no API users should need it (they should do CapabilityInject themselves)

L1108[17:09:46] <williewillus> and you might get confused people trying to call register()

L1109[17:09:49] <williewillus> which would be very bad

L1110[17:10:00] <LatvianModder> yeah, I had comments.. but then I rewrote the api and forgot to re-add them

L1111[17:10:06] <LatvianModder> yeah, good point

L1112[17:13:11] <LatvianModder> Oh, I remebered why not a boolean - so you can return a smaller value. I should rename it to getMaxEnergyReceived()

L1113[17:14:01] <gigaherz> your capability is basically the same that I did in CapabilityCore btw ;P

L1114[17:14:35] <LatvianModder> You mean energy api?

L1115[17:14:46] <gigaherz> yes

L1116[17:15:04] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/CapabilityCore/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/capabilities/api/energy

L1117[17:15:27] <LatvianModder> Its purposely ment to not work with any other energy api. It has RF bridge block, but I dont want this to be another RF mod :P

L1118[17:15:52] <gigaherz> heh

L1119[17:16:10] <LatvianModder> Ha, yeah, its pretty much the same as yours

L1120[17:16:27] <LatvianModder> And thats how the RF api Should have looked

L1121[17:16:31] <LatvianModder> But no.

L1122[17:16:44] <gigaherz> hence why I did CapabilityCore -- to show everyone how RF should look like.

L1123[17:16:56] <gigaherz> I doubt it will be used to replace RF

L1124[17:16:58] <gigaherz> but meh

L1125[17:17:01] <gigaherz> I tried.

L1126[17:17:47] <LatvianModder> I at least hope CoFH will do the same

L1127[17:18:17] <LatvianModder> Or.. You know.. We could all completly stop using old mods and make a whole set of new ones :P

L1128[17:18:26] <williewillus> yeah right

L1129[17:18:29] <williewillus> like that'll happen :P

L1130[17:18:42] <LatvianModder> Not with that attitude! :D

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L1135[17:24:30] <MrSlick> How do you register a FML event in 1.9?

L1136[17:24:51] <gigaherz> the fml bus goes merged int othe forge one

L1137[17:25:01] <gigaherz> just use MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS for everything fml too

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L1140[17:25:07] <Gavle> hi

L1141[17:25:11] <MrSlick> okie

L1142[17:25:11] <gigaherz> hello

L1143[17:25:18] <Gavle> I have a question

L1144[17:25:22] <Gavle> You can add fuels to the Compression Dynamo in this section. Fluid names only, as they are registered in Minecraft.

L1145[17:25:32] <Gavle> How do I retrieve a fluid's registered name?

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L1147[17:26:43] <MrSlick> Did I do it right? MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register(new Config());

L1148[17:27:16] <gigaherz> assuming Config contains event methods, yes

L1149[17:27:22] <MrSlick> sure then :P

L1150[17:27:45] <gigaherz> Gavle: well... aside of writing a mod t hat lists them, not sure

L1151[17:27:46] <gigaherz> XD

L1152[17:28:02] <Gavle> hmmmm

L1153[17:28:11] <gigaherz> hmmm

L1154[17:28:15] <gigaherz> you could use an NBT mod

L1155[17:28:19] <gigaherz> or NBT editor

L1156[17:28:26] <gigaherz> and put a bucket of that fluid in your inventory

L1157[17:28:39] <gigaherz> or in a tank

L1158[17:29:03] <williewillus> or if mod is open source

L1159[17:29:05] <williewillus> look at the code

L1160[17:29:06] <williewillus> :P

L1161[17:29:14] <gigaherz> that too

L1162[17:29:23] <LatvianModder> FTBUtils 1.9 now have ingame nbt edit feature btw :D

L1163[17:30:17] <LatvianModder> As for 1.7.10 i have that old nbt mod somewhere around, I updated it myself since the author seems to have disappeared

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L1165[17:31:09] <MrSlick> Oh shoot, the config gui works now

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L1167[17:31:35] <Gavle> willieaway, do you happen to know what to look for in the code?

L1168[17:32:36] <LatvianModder> Which fluid you want to find?

L1169[17:32:48] <Gavle> Heavy and Light Oil from Magneticraft

L1170[17:33:03] <Gavle> I want to add them as fuel for the Compression Dynamo from Thermal Expansion

L1171[17:34:14] <gigaherz> boo it's not opensource

L1172[17:34:20] <LatvianModder> Hmm.. Maybe Inventory Tweaks can shows a tooltip or smth

L1173[17:34:40] <LatvianModder> gigaherz: nothing is closedsoure for a modder

L1174[17:35:08] <gigaherz> sure but I'm not going to decompile Margneticraft just to read what string they used for the fluid

L1175[17:35:20] <Gavle> Magneticraft has a Github, i think

L1176[17:35:40] <gigaherz> for the API only

L1177[17:35:45] <gigaherz> https://github.com/cout970/Magneticraft-API-and-Issues

L1178[17:36:10] <Gavle> ah

L1179[17:36:11] <LatvianModder> Boo

L1180[17:36:23] <Gavle> Boo indeed

L1181[17:36:29] <LatvianModder> I dont understand people who have closedsource mods >.<

L1182[17:36:58] <LatvianModder> Its not like they have gov secrets there...

L1183[17:37:40] <Gavle> I have Government Secrets in my head

L1184[17:38:02] <gigaherz> but hopefully you dont' write them into mods?

L1185[17:38:18] <gigaherz> I mean itwould be weird if your mods looked like

L1186[17:38:24] <gigaherz> int area_51_is_a_hoax = 0

L1187[17:38:30] <Gavle> lel

L1188[17:38:32] <gigaherz> int area_52_is_where_the_aliens_are = 1:

L1189[17:38:41] <Gavle> that is what my mod is like

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L1191[17:38:55] <LatvianModder> #nsa_is_watching_us

L1192[17:39:05] <gigaherz> bool bush_did_911 = true;

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L1194[17:40:09] <LatvianModder> jet_fuel_cant_melt_steal_beams = true

L1195[17:40:17] <gigaherz> it can't

L1196[17:40:19] <gigaherz> that's the thing

L1197[17:40:22] <gigaherz> it doesn't need to XD

L1198[17:40:36] <gigaherz> that's whole conspiracy theory is pointless

L1199[17:40:53] <LatvianModder> Ye? |:I

L1200[17:41:01] <gigaherz> WAY before steel melts

L1201[17:41:03] <gigaherz> it becomes soft

L1202[17:41:17] <gigaherz> it doesn't need to melt steel beams

L1203[17:41:24] <gigaherz> because it's already hot enough to make them soft as butter

L1204[17:41:48] <masa> Gavle: I have a small debug mod caleld TellMe, it can show you the NBT from TEs (tanks) for example by just right clicking on it with a gold nugget

L1205[17:41:59] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

L1206[17:42:01] <gigaherz> watch that vid

L1207[17:42:02] <gigaherz> ;p

L1208[17:42:07] <LatvianModder> I need to regenerate.. See ya on 'morrow!

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L1210[17:44:43] <Gavle> masa, link to the mod?

L1211[17:44:53] <masa> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/tellme

L1212[17:45:06] <MrSlick> Can I have a list of things that didn't change from 1.7 to 1.9?

L1213[17:45:28] <masa> uhh...

L1214[17:46:08] <MrSlick> *things that didn't change concerning making mods

L1215[17:46:31] <diesieben07> Uhm, the @Mod annotation? :D

L1216[17:46:32] <diesieben07> events?

L1217[17:46:35] <masa> yeah sure let's list ALL the thousands of things that didn't change :p

L1218[17:46:48] <diesieben07> the game is still coded in java? :D

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L1222[17:47:39] <MrSlick> Not really what I meant :P I meant things like making a creative tab or registering blocks (these are just examples, I know registering blocks changed)

L1223[17:47:41] <gigaherz> MrSlick: the @Mod class, the proxies, the most basic parts of Item/Block classes

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L1225[17:48:00] <gigaherz> the Gui stuff (GuiHandler, GuiScreen, GuiContainer)

L1226[17:48:07] <gigaherz> creativetabs haven't changedeither

L1227[17:48:18] <gigaherz> neither has the networking -- xceptfor the threading

L1228[17:48:25] <MrSlick> neat

L1229[17:48:42] <MrSlick> Is registering items in 1.8 the same in 1.9?

L1230[17:48:49] <gigaherz> no, it's closer to 1.7

L1231[17:48:53] <MrSlick> darn

L1232[17:49:07] <gigaherz> the registry changes happened recently

L1233[17:49:08] <gigaherz> in 1.9

L1234[17:49:16] <gigaherz> and haven't been backportedto 1.8

L1235[17:49:36] <MrSlick> I see, so I just need to look through 1.9 mods to find out how to do this then?

L1236[17:49:46] <gigaherz> it's easy enough

L1237[17:49:48] <gigaherz> used to be

L1238[17:49:53] <gigaherz> GameRegister.registerItem(theItem)

L1239[17:49:55] <gigaherz> it's now

L1240[17:49:58] <gigaherz> GameRegister.register(theItem)

L1241[17:50:12] <gigaherz> xcept

L1242[17:50:18] <gigaherz> pre-1.8

L1243[17:50:25] <gigaherz> you had to specify the name in the register call

L1244[17:50:39] <gigaherz> during 1.8, setRegistryName was introduced to items and blocks

L1245[17:50:52] <gigaherz> which allowsyou to bind the name to the block/item directly

L1246[17:50:59] <gigaherz> so that it doesn't need to be explicit in the register call

L1247[17:51:11] <MrSlick> mhm

L1248[17:51:16] <masa> https://github.com/maruohon/enderutilities/blob/master/src/main/java/fi/dy/masa/enderutilities/setup/EnderUtilitiesItems.java#L298-L299

L1249[17:51:24] <gigaherz> which hopefully removes that retarded "getUnlocalizedName.substring" habit some modders have

L1250[17:52:15] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Enderthing/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderthing/items/ItemRegistered.java

L1251[17:52:22] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Enderthing/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderthing/blocks/BlockRegistered.java

L1252[17:52:27] <gigaherz> I made these two classes

L1253[17:52:35] <gigaherz> that I useas base classes for all ym items and blocks

L1254[17:52:46] <gigaherz> you'll note in the Block one, I have a createItemBlock method

L1255[17:52:53] <gigaherz> this is because one of the changes in the new registry

L1256[17:53:03] <gigaherz> ist hat blocks don't get an item version by default anymore

L1257[17:53:06] <gigaherz> you have to "opt in" to it

L1258[17:53:31] <gigaherz> and a lot of modders aren't even aware it's possible to have a block without item

L1259[17:53:34] <MrSlick> I see

L1260[18:07:29] <MrSlick> Is there an open source 1.9 mod that possesses a really good structure for classes and folders?

L1261[18:08:55] <gigaherz> depends on what you consider good structure

L1262[18:09:00] <gigaherz> I like mystructure ;p

L1263[18:09:20] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Enderthing/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderthing

L1264[18:09:24] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower

L1265[18:09:24] <MrSlick> :P

L1266[18:09:35] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift

L1267[18:10:03] <MrSlick> First thing I notice: doesn't use the common/client/proxy folder structure suggested by the docs.

L1268[18:10:26] <gigaherz> for the proxies

L1269[18:10:30] <gigaherz> I have IModProxy

L1270[18:10:34] <gigaherz> and then client/ClientProxy

L1271[18:10:37] <gigaherz> and server/ServerProxy

L1272[18:10:55] <gigaherz> the common code is just in the @Mod class

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L1274[18:11:05] <MrSlick> mhm

L1275[18:11:21] <gigaherz> I'm not the kind of dev who has

L1276[18:11:22] <gigaherz> ModItems

L1277[18:11:25] <gigaherz> ModBlocks

L1278[18:11:27] <gigaherz> ModConstants

L1279[18:11:27] <gigaherz> etc

L1280[18:11:29] <masa> big surprise, I like my directory/package structure... :p

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L1282[18:12:08] <gigaherz> I also don't really like to have overly isolated stuff by cramming everything relatedto a block inside the block class

L1283[18:12:24] <Biochemic> I think there is no "Good for everyone" File/Folder structure

L1284[18:12:43] <MrSlick> I see

L1285[18:12:51] <Biochemic> it actually depends on how well you can work with ^^

L1286[18:13:18] <gigaherz> ifyou compare my EnderRift mod file with the Elements of power one

L1287[18:13:29] <gigaherz> you'll notice that the latter got too big to manage

L1288[18:13:42] <gigaherz> so I split the preInit into multiple functions

L1289[18:13:58] <Ivorius> Biochemic: Maybe not, but there is definitely 'good' and 'bad' with some :P

L1290[18:14:11] <gigaherz> there's underengineering

L1291[18:14:14] <gigaherz> overengineering

L1292[18:14:17] <gigaherz> and then everything in between

L1293[18:14:45] <masa> I don't like it when everything is crammed into the main class, it looks messy and is harder to find stuff...

L1294[18:15:00] <gigaherz> underengineering = so little structure/design that you hurt yourself by how messy everything is

L1295[18:15:22] <Biochemic> Ivorius: but not "Good for everyone", i know there are good and bad examples, but is't up to the mod and it's author

L1296[18:15:24] <gigaherz> overengineering = so much structure/design that you hurt yourself from unnecessary interfaces/organization

L1297[18:15:28] <gigaherz> everythign in between = good code

L1298[18:15:59] <Biochemic> i agree

L1299[18:16:04] <gigaherz> I have erred both sides.

L1300[18:16:08] <Ivorius> I can tell you I absolutely despise BlockMyMod classes and similar

L1301[18:16:15] <Ivorius> It goes against everything encapsulation stands for

L1302[18:16:34] <Ivorius> One of the worst class designs to get popular in modding

L1303[18:16:43] <Zaggy1024> what does the gem icon mean on mods now?

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L1305[18:16:56] <gigaherz> Zaggy1024: "updates available"

L1306[18:17:04] <Zaggy1024> ah

L1307[18:17:13] <Zaggy1024> the text when you select it doesn't really draw attention to itself but all right

L1308[18:17:35] <Zaggy1024> I figured it was probably updates but didn't notice it said updates were available in the description

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L1310[18:17:49] <Zaggy1024> mainly because it's in the middle of some other text

L1311[18:17:51] <gigaherz> I did that icon

L1312[18:17:57] <gigaherz> someone else wrote the code ;P

L1313[18:18:07] <Zaggy1024> oh, it's not hte fault of the icon code :P

L1314[18:18:43] <Zaggy1024> btw, why is scrolling so inconsistent in the mod menu?

L1315[18:18:51] <Zaggy1024> seems to really like just stopping randomly :\

L1316[18:20:34] <gigaherz> hmm I don't have enough mods to check that

L1317[18:21:42] <Tazz> wtf and eclipse isnt even loading my assets wtf

L1318[18:21:59] <gigaherz> were you the one who had issues with assets in eclipse?

L1319[18:22:03] <Zaggy1024> giga, it also happens with the forge description

L1320[18:22:37] <Zaggy1024> kinda seems like it's got a timer which prevents scrolling immediately after a scroll event is handled or something

L1321[18:22:42] <Tazz> gigaherz, in intellij

L1322[18:23:26] <Zaggy1024> maybe it's to prevent goofy mice from scrolling doubly far or something, but it seems like the delay is too strong

L1323[18:23:36] <gigaherz> eh I meant to write IDEa

L1324[18:23:36] <gigaherz> Xd

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L1326[18:24:01] <gigaherz> Tazz: if you have issues in two separate IDEs, it may indicate that the issue is either on the assets, or how you load them ;p

L1327[18:24:35] <gigaherz> Zaggy1024: yep it's very inconsistent

L1328[18:24:49] <Tazz> gigaherz: this.getClient().getRenderItem().getItemModelMesher().register(item, 0, new ModelResourceLocation("herbarium:" + id, "inventory"));

L1329[18:24:59] <gigaherz> that's the old method

L1330[18:25:19] <Tazz> gigaherz, enlighten me on the newer method?

L1331[18:25:21] <gigaherz> I wish those tutorials updated already

L1332[18:25:27] <Tazz> Im relatively unfamiliar with 1.8.9 modding

L1333[18:25:47] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Survivalist/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/survivalist/client/ClientProxy.java#L119

L1334[18:25:57] <gigaherz> but you have to call it during pre-init

L1335[18:28:37] <gigaherz> Zaggy1024: hmm it's exactly as inconsistent in 1.8.9

L1336[18:28:39] <gigaherz> so it's nothing new

L1337[18:28:42] <Zaggy1024> indeed

L1338[18:28:51] <Zaggy1024> I just never complained about it before :P

L1339[18:29:07] * Zaggy1024 is looking for the culprit now

L1340[18:29:11] <Tazz> gigaherz, java.io.FileNotFoundException: herbarium:blockstates/journal.json

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L1342[18:29:49] <gigaherz> resources/assets/herbarium/blockstates/journal.json ?

L1343[18:29:56] <Tazz> no models

L1344[18:30:12] <Tazz> blockstates for items too?

L1345[18:30:12] <gigaherz> is there another error aside of that one?

L1346[18:30:13] <Tazz> o_O

L1347[18:30:25] <gigaherz> forge adds the ability to use blockstates for items

L1348[18:30:32] <gigaherz> but it won't complain if there's already an item model that matches the name

L1349[18:30:56] <gigaherz> so, is there some other error loading the actual model?

L1350[18:32:30] <Tazz> https://gist.github.com/s0cks/9e256b1ead280512a5e4e54da133e694

L1351[18:32:37] <Tazz> full stacktrace

L1352[18:32:52] <gigaherz> :/

L1353[18:33:12] <gigaherz> and you said you do have "resources/assets/herbarium/models/item/journal.json" ?

L1354[18:33:19] <Tazz> yes

L1355[18:33:22] <gigaherz> make sureit's /item/ and not /items/

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L1357[18:33:29] <Tazz> 100% sure its item

L1358[18:33:38] <Tazz> its even on github if you dont believe me rofl

L1359[18:33:48] <gigaherz> nono I'm just troubleshooting

L1360[18:33:55] <Tazz> this literally happens every damn time I start picking up a mod idea

L1361[18:34:08] <vox> tterrag: Yo, if you're around I'd like to talk to you about rendering for CTM

L1362[18:34:14] <Tazz> I cant get any work done because Im trying to figure out whyI cant get my assets to load

L1363[18:34:25] <Tazz> then I just give up on the project because it wont load the assets

L1364[18:34:29] <vox> I have no idea how to do custom rendering now without IIcon or a TESR which I don't want to do

L1365[18:34:55] <Tazz> vox, GlStateManager available?

L1366[18:35:18] <gigaherz> vox: you use smart models.

L1367[18:35:25] <TehNut> Tazz: It's trying to load from models/item/blockstates/journal.json

L1368[18:35:31] <vox> Explain?

L1369[18:35:34] <gigaherz> ISmartBlockModel/ISmartItemModel on 1.8.9

L1370[18:35:39] <gigaherz> or just IBakedModel on 1.9

L1371[18:35:49] <vox> Okay, yeah I have a class inheriting from that

L1372[18:35:51] <Tazz> TehNut, I even renamed it to make it blockstates and it didnt work

L1373[18:35:59] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/williewillus/57d7093efa80163e96e0

L1374[18:36:00] <Tazz> same error

L1375[18:36:04] <gigaherz> there's some info about custom models there

L1376[18:36:10] <vox> Thanks!

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L1378[18:37:03] <gigaherz> gotta go

L1379[18:37:04] <gigaherz> work tomorrow

L1380[18:37:06] <gigaherz> night ppl

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L1383[18:39:12] <Zaggy1024> lol wow, I had no idea you could drag scroll

L1384[18:44:02] <Tazz> ffs

L1385[18:44:05] <Tazz> its still not loading

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L1387[18:47:36] <Tazz> and they are there

L1388[18:47:53] <Tazz> wtsf

L1389[18:47:58] <Zaggy1024> ah yup

L1390[18:48:15] <Zaggy1024> Mouse events are being handled by both GuiScreen.handleInput and GuiScrollingList.drawScreen

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L1393[18:50:53] <Zaggy1024> the proper solution I suppose would be to defer the handling to the scrolling list when it's hovered

L1394[18:51:20] <Zaggy1024> but then any mods that use the scrolling list would have to change their classes extending GuiScreen if that were fixed

L1395[19:00:31] <tterrag> vox: ?

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L1397[19:01:45] <vox> How're you doing rendering for CTM in the new version of Chisel?

L1398[19:02:07] <vox> Just extending an IBakedModel and returning your own quads?

L1399[19:02:15] <tterrag> mostly

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L1401[19:03:30] <Zaggy1024> what does CTM actually stand for?

L1402[19:03:44] <vox> Connected Texture.... something that no one's sure about

L1403[19:03:47] <Zaggy1024> haha

L1404[19:03:54] <vox> Mapping maybe, but we don't know

L1405[19:04:10] <diesieben07> it probably originally stood for connected textures mo

L1406[19:04:11] <diesieben07> mod

L1407[19:04:19] <vox> Yeah probably

L1408[19:04:57] <vox> tterrag: btw, what's up with Chisel-Team vs Chisel-2?

L1409[19:05:38] <tterrag> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/3id95c/an_update_on_chisel/

L1410[19:05:42] <tterrag> read that and my first reply, if you want

L1411[19:06:37] <Zaggy1024> ayy

L1412[19:06:47] <Zaggy1024> fixed the scrolling input

L1413[19:06:59] <vox> thanks

L1414[19:07:15] <Zaggy1024> although to put this in Forge would break scroll wheel scrolling in any mods using GuiScrollingList

L1415[19:07:46] <Zaggy1024> I suppose I should still make the PR and just let Lex decide

L1416[19:08:08] <tterrag> you knwo forge itself uses that

L1417[19:08:30] <Zaggy1024> yes...

L1418[19:08:33] <Zaggy1024> that's how I tested it

L1419[19:08:42] <Zaggy1024> I don't use it in my mod

L1420[19:08:51] <tterrag> what are you doing exactly?

L1421[19:09:23] <Zaggy1024> just making the mouse event handling in GuiModList defer to a new GuiScrollingList.handleMouseInput

L1422[19:09:29] <synthetica> Hi!

L1423[19:09:46] <Zaggy1024> "if (modList.handleMouseInput())

L1424[19:09:46] <Zaggy1024> return;"

L1425[19:09:47] <Zaggy1024> :P

L1426[19:10:21] <Zaggy1024> no skipped scrolling with that code in :]

L1427[19:10:47] <tterrag> oh so it actually scrolls smoothly?

L1428[19:10:50] <Zaggy1024> yeah

L1429[19:10:54] <Zaggy1024> well

L1430[19:11:03] <Zaggy1024> smoothly as in it doesn't miss any events

L1431[19:11:16] <Zaggy1024> it doesn't smooth the scrolling in the same way that browsers do nowadays :P

L1432[19:11:27] <tterrag> right

L1433[19:11:28] <tterrag> I know

L1434[19:11:32] <Zaggy1024> indeed, I figured

L1435[19:11:32] <tterrag> the mod list scrolling is infuriating

L1436[19:11:37] <tterrag> if you fix that, then good :P

L1437[19:11:37] <Zaggy1024> yep

L1438[19:11:43] <vox> diesieben07: Reading the thread that tterrag posted, confirmed it was originally "Mod" and now is "Mapping" (by Vaz)

L1439[19:11:54] <diesieben07> :D

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L1442[19:21:55] <Zaggy1024> ah another problem is the scroll amount per event was being clamped to between -1 and 1

L1443[19:23:56] <diesieben07> Zaggy1024, may i ask what you are doing? :D

L1444[19:24:13] <Zaggy1024> making GuiScrollingList handle the mouse wheel properly

L1445[19:24:56] <diesieben07> sounds like a case for GuiScreenEvent.MouseInputEvent

L1446[19:25:35] <Zaggy1024> hmm.

L1447[19:25:53] <Zaggy1024> I suppose.

L1448[19:25:59] <diesieben07> and then Mouse.getEventDWheel

L1449[19:26:12] <Zaggy1024> indeed

L1450[19:28:13] <Zaggy1024> that would solve the compatibility problems

L1451[19:29:58] <diesieben07> yeah

L1452[19:32:48] <Zaggy1024> so how would scrolling half the height of the box be? or should it be a fixed scroll distance?

L1453[19:33:37] <Zaggy1024> (I'll admit I like fast scrolling a bit too much so I'm a bit biased)

L1454[19:33:45] <diesieben07> really not sure

L1455[19:34:00] <diesieben07> the problem is that there is no unit on getEventDWheel

L1456[19:34:03] <diesieben07> its just... some number

L1457[19:34:14] <Zaggy1024> isn't it system-defined pixel scrolling amount?

L1458[19:34:18] <diesieben07> Nope.

L1459[19:34:22] <Zaggy1024> huh...

L1460[19:34:32] <diesieben07> actually wait

L1461[19:34:33] <Zaggy1024> do you get a scroll of 120 for one notch?

L1462[19:34:34] <diesieben07> what is that?

L1463[19:34:43] <diesieben07> also what is "one notch"?

L1464[19:34:50] <diesieben07> i can un-click my mousewheel :P

L1465[19:34:57] <diesieben07> what about scrolling on a touchpad with 2 fingers?

L1466[19:35:17] <Zaggy1024> most of the mice I've used have notches on the scroll wheel

L1467[19:35:26] <diesieben07> so does mine, but it can un-click

L1468[19:35:27] <Zaggy1024> and on a touchpad I assume it gives smaller numbers with more events

L1469[19:35:50] <Zaggy1024> although actually I may be able to use my phone to test it using VNC

L1470[19:36:14] <Zaggy1024> crap

L1471[19:36:19] <Zaggy1024> it's not scrolling in smaller increments

L1472[19:37:57] <Zaggy1024> would you be willing to test it to see how it handles smaller scrolling increments?

L1473[19:38:06] <Zaggy1024> (once I actually put up the PR that is)

L1474[19:38:36] <diesieben07> sure

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L1476[19:41:41] <Zaggy1024> uh-oh, there's some leaking GL state it looks like

L1477[19:41:41] <diesieben07> ping me in the PR :P

L1478[19:41:42] <Zaggy1024> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30868783/ShareX/2016/05/2016-05-01_19-41-24.mp4

L1479[19:41:53] <Zaggy1024> (watch the logo)

L1480[19:42:00] <diesieben07> fun :D

L1481[19:42:09] <Zaggy1024> don't think I did that though :P

L1482[19:42:46] <diesieben07> gotta sleep now :D

L1483[19:42:50] <Zaggy1024> okay

L1484[19:43:09] <vox> Night!

L1485[19:44:38] <Zaggy1024> indeed, good night

L1486[19:44:47] <Zaggy1024> I forgot to say that, gj me :P

L1487[19:48:16] <Zaggy1024> lol I got the scroll event to get up to 400

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L1489[19:50:35] <vox> For a block that's 3/16ths of a block tall, I should render as part of the CUTOUT layer, correct?

L1490[19:52:05] <Zaggy1024> no

L1491[19:52:14] <Zaggy1024> that's only if you have boolean alpha

L1492[19:52:19] <Zaggy1024> like leaves

L1493[19:52:27] <Zaggy1024> fully transparent or opaque

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L1496[19:53:30] <zenith> So I need iron nuggets in my mod, and I would like to only add my own if there aren't already iron nuggets. Any suggestions as to the best way to do that?

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L1498[19:57:56] <vox> ore dictionary?

L1499[19:59:48] <tterrag> zenith: don't do that

L1500[20:00:06] <tterrag> unless you can seamlessly integrate other mods' iron nuggets it will only add confusion

L1501[20:00:32] <zenith> I was thinking of checking for nuggetIron in the ore dict and if it doesn't exist, add mine

L1502[20:00:38] <unascribed> and also let's say your user has a double chest full of iron nuggets

L1503[20:00:41] <zenith> But that would mean I'm registering it later than I should

L1504[20:00:43] <unascribed> and they add a mod with its own iron nuggets

L1505[20:00:50] <zenith> Yeah

L1506[20:00:51] <unascribed> suddenly all those iron nuggets are gone

L1507[20:00:54] <Zaggy1024> wow this is odd...if I click a link and then cancel opening it in the mod description, it stops scrolling

L1508[20:01:07] <zenith> Bah. I suppose I'll just add one then

L1509[20:01:29] <unascribed> yeah, this is what the ore dictionary is for :P

L1510[20:01:45] <unascribed> it doesn't matter if there's 1000 different iron nuggets, they're all equivalent for crafting

L1511[20:01:47] <tterrag> or - say you add a special recipe to get your iron nuggets

L1512[20:01:54] <tterrag> the user expects this recipe to exist

L1513[20:02:13] <zenith> Nah. The recipe is 1 ingot = 9 nuggets, as per usual

L1514[20:03:59] <Zaggy1024> ah right, I need to remove the event handler

L1515[20:04:52] <Zaggy1024> hrm.

L1516[20:05:04] <Zaggy1024> there is no event to handle to unregister the handler...

L1517[20:05:12] <Zaggy1024> so I think my previous solution may be the best one

L1518[20:05:18] <Zaggy1024> well

L1519[20:05:50] <Zaggy1024> actually I meant callback but I don't think there's any way to check if a GuiScrollingList is in a gui anyway

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L1521[20:06:18] <Zaggy1024> so the only way would be to call a GuiScrollingList method from GuiModList which is what I was trying to avoid, so I guess my earlier method of fixing the scrolling is still best

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L1532[20:16:33] <synthetica> Okay, I've tried a couple times today. setupDecompWorkspace works, but doesn't actually have any effect on my project. I mean, it runs fine, but doesn't put the Forge and Minecraft sources in External Libraries and stuff like that. I just don't know what's wrong. It's worked before... thanks for any help.

L1533[20:17:17] <Kodos> Did you actually download the forge src files?

L1534[20:18:16] <synthetica> I have a project of mine that I got from Github. I recently got a new computer so I had to put it on here.

L1535[20:18:38] <synthetica> Anyway, the same thing happens when I download a straight MDK.

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L1538[20:19:34] <IoP> eclipse or idea?

L1539[20:19:39] <synthetica> Idea.

L1540[20:20:17] <IoP> try refreshing gradle

L1541[20:20:38] <synthetica> What do you mean by "refreshing"?

L1542[20:21:34] <IoP> there is that button in gradle panel. let's see what is correct name for it

L1543[20:21:58] <synthetica> Thanks...... I'm stupid. :P

L1544[20:22:32] <synthetica> Sorry.

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L1546[20:25:05] <vox> I can't believe I just made this monstrosity

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L1548[20:26:03] <vox> I have a class called ModelLoaderHelper that takes a Block, a ModelResourceLocation, and a Class (the Model's class, ModelSolarPanell.class for example)

L1549[20:28:00] <synthetica> Okay, that worked. Thank you very much, IoP. I'm sorry for my stupidity for a second there.

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L1551[20:30:03] <tterrag> vox: class based APIs are bad :P

L1552[20:30:24] <vox> :D

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L1554[20:30:54] <IoP> synthetica: np

L1555[20:30:57] <vox> Basically, it not only implements ICustomModelLoader but also sets the CustomStateMapper using ML.setCSM for the block to a dummy internal class

L1556[20:31:13] <vox> And then registers itself in the model loader registry

L1557[20:31:13] <williewillus> sounds overcomplicated

L1558[20:31:21] <williewillus> like almost everythign class based

L1559[20:31:26] <vox> I was tired of doing it by hand :P

L1560[20:31:44] <vox> For every custom model I was writing quite a bit of boilerplate

L1561[20:31:51] <williewillus> you shouldn't be

L1562[20:31:55] <williewillus> it's just jsons

L1563[20:32:35] <vox> Not if you're using BakedModel shenanigans

L1564[20:32:50] <vox> I'm integrating tterrag's CTM into an IBakedModel

L1565[20:32:55] <vox> Almost there

L1566[20:33:10] <vox> So I have to write an ICustomModelLoader anyway

L1567[20:33:20] <vox> So I can return a custom IBakedModel

L1568[20:33:27] <vox> that has a reference to the CTM logic

L1569[20:33:43] <vox> Any better ideas?

L1570[20:34:22] <williewillus> yeah but that should only be one case

L1571[20:34:24] <williewillus> ?

L1572[20:34:43] <vox> I mean, I need a different model loader for each model type

L1573[20:34:46] <vox> Right?

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L1575[20:35:35] <williewillus> what do you mean by model type?

L1576[20:40:56] <vox> I.e. I have a ModelSolarPanel class

L1577[20:41:05] <vox> and a ModelSomeOtherThing class

L1578[20:41:11] <williewillus> you definietly do not make a new model loader for every single block

L1579[20:41:21] <vox> Yes, duh

L1580[20:41:29] <vox> But I do have Models for CTM objects

L1581[20:41:42] <williewillus> so that should just be a "CTMModelLoader"

L1582[20:42:20] <vox> My class is basically that plus the ModelLoader registration

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L1587[20:47:15] <vox> I probably do need to restructure this... it *is* pretty garbage :P

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L1591[21:01:19] <Zaggy1024> heh I found another bug with the scrolling list

L1592[21:01:30] <Zaggy1024> been working at fixing it for a while now because I'm good at getting sidetracked

L1593[21:02:02] <vox> willieaway: Where do you register your PlatformModel in Botania?

L1594[21:03:26] <tterrag> you don't register the model

L1595[21:03:30] <tterrag> you register the loader

L1596[21:04:30] <Zaggy1024> ah there we go, fixed it

L1597[21:04:41] <Zaggy1024> the scroll bar wasn't lined up with the end of the scrolling list properly

L1598[21:04:56] <Zaggy1024> just made two methods to get the scroller height and overflow height and now it works :)

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L1615[21:42:29] <williewillus> what do i do to write a double x y z to the network without using 64 bits again? :P

L1616[21:43:07] <williewillus> oh wait nvm I don't need to send the doubles

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L1622[21:50:09] <vox> Alright, night all!

L1623[21:50:30] <vox> Alright, night all!

L1624[21:50:39] <vox> Btw williewillus where do you register your model loaders?

L1625[21:51:16] <williewillus> in preinit

L1626[21:51:25] <vox> Thanks!

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L1631[21:59:01] <Zaggy1024> hehe now I kind of want to add overscrolling

L1632[21:59:03] <Zaggy1024> but that'd be silly

L1633[22:07:08] <Zaggy1024> had to do it just for fun :P

L1634[22:07:38] <Zaggy1024> it's kind of ugly looking because it pulls down while you're dragging but it still looks cool

L1635[22:07:39] <Zaggy1024> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30868783/ShareX/2016/05/2016-05-01_22-07-04.mp4

L1636[22:08:02] <williewillus> is that on all scrollboxes?

L1637[22:10:04] <Zaggy1024> yeah

L1638[22:10:12] <Zaggy1024> I was just playing with it, it's not really worth putting work into

L1639[22:10:30] <Zaggy1024> to make it look good the whole scrolling implementation would have to be smoothed

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L1641[22:10:49] <Zaggy1024> (and perhaps inertial too)

L1642[22:11:10] <Zaggy1024> my only goal when I started this was to make the scrolling more consistent, and I've done that already

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L1644[22:11:21] <Zaggy1024> so I think I'll just make the PR now unless I see any bugs

L1645[22:11:47] <Zaggy1024> (forgot to say, I did revert my overscrolling changes, of course)

L1646[22:12:13] <Zaggy1024> and actually it wouldn't be on vanilla scroll boxes, just the forge ones

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L1649[22:12:27] <Zaggy1024> since the vanilla ones use a more limited implementation AFAIK

L1650[22:13:15] <Zaggy1024> although come to think of it, my fix doesn't affect those vanilla scroll boxes

L1651[22:13:19] <Zaggy1024> they scroll horrendously as well D:

L1652[22:13:53] <Zaggy1024> or at least it seems like they do

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L1655[22:18:02] <Zaggy1024> actually I think the problem is just that they clamp the scrolling amount which causes scrolling more than once in a mouse event makes it scroll less

L1656[22:18:06] <FusionLord> http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/ is down :/

L1657[22:18:59] <Zaggy1024> yup it's the clamping

L1658[22:19:02] <Zaggy1024> gj mojang :P

L1659[22:19:03] <williewillus> up for me

L1660[22:19:05] <williewillus> FusionLord

L1661[22:19:21] <Zaggy1024> I could patch it but I'm not sure if it's worth it

L1662[22:19:37] <FusionLord> williewillus, it just came back up :P

L1663[22:19:48] <williewillus> Zaggy1024: what is your PR about again? :P

L1664[22:20:09] <Zaggy1024> well, initially I was fixing the glitchy scrolling in GuiScrollingList (used by the mods list)

L1665[22:20:12] <FusionLord> and down again

L1666[22:20:27] <Zaggy1024> but I just realized that the scrolling in vanilla scrolling lists is only a little better :P

L1667[22:20:41] <FusionLord> wel /stable/ is

L1668[22:20:55] <Zaggy1024> if you scroll fast enough it doesn't scroll as far

L1669[22:21:13] <Zaggy1024> which can be quite annoying, especially in such a massive list as the languages list

L1670[22:22:24] <williewillus> i think its just you :P its up for me

L1671[22:23:20] <Zaggy1024> doesn't help that the language list scrolls at freaking half an language at a time... >.<

L1672[22:23:38] <williewillus> thats why most people use the grab bar :P

L1673[22:23:42] <Zaggy1024> indeed

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L1675[22:28:20] <FusionLord> williewillus, then can you tell me what the latest mappings for 1.7.10 are

L1676[22:28:33] <williewillus> !!latest

L1677[22:28:34] <MCPBot_Reborn> === Latest Mappings ===

L1678[22:28:34] <MCPBot_Reborn> MC Version Forge Gradle Channel

L1679[22:28:35] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.9 snapshot_20160501

L1680[22:28:36] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8.9 snapshot_20160301

L1681[22:28:36] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8.9 stable_22

L1682[22:28:37] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8.8 snapshot_20151229

L1683[22:28:38] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8.8 stable_20

L1684[22:28:39] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8 snapshot_20151128

L1685[22:28:39] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8 stable_18

L1686[22:28:40] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.7.10 snapshot_20140925

L1687[22:28:41] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.7.10 stable_12

L1688[22:29:12] <FusionLord> Thanks! lol

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L1690[22:33:46] <Matthew> williewillus, '!!latest 1.7.10' would have been beter :P

L1691[22:34:03] <williewillus> didnt know if that was a thing :P

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L1693[22:44:10] <Zaggy1024> jeez...

L1694[22:44:18] <Zaggy1024> the menu is forcibly framerate limited to 30

L1695[22:44:34] <rebecca> I'm looking to commission a few custom blocks, PM me if you're interested in some coding work.

L1696[22:44:40] <Zaggy1024> if I change the limit it makes the scrolling feel fluid as heck

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L1713[23:28:37] <FusionLord> >.> mod request for 1.7.10... no BlockPos :(

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