OCLogs: 2016-01-04.log

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L93[01:02:48] <killjoy> Oh my.... I just found some code...

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L95[01:02:56] <killjoy> if (connection.isClosed() || connection == null)

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L111[01:41:18] <masa> esper pls...

L112[01:42:12] <Upthorn> esper be like "nah"

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L114[01:42:34] <Drullkus> killjoy: Holy snap. Codes!

L115[01:42:39] <Zaggy1024> fricken heck

L116[01:42:45] <Drullkus> Frackin hack

L117[01:42:53] <Zaggy1024> fry still hasn't properly fixed XZ block offsets in his pipeline

L118[01:42:59] <killjoy> frucking hick

L119[01:43:41] <Zaggy1024> his offsets still always take into account Y position for XZ offsets

L120[01:43:49] <Zaggy1024> soo...http://i.imgur.com/Dv8PXB7.png

L121[01:44:11] <Zaggy1024> thought I told him that was the problem

L122[01:44:54] <Zaggy1024> *a problem

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L124[01:45:19] <Zaggy1024> there was actually a bigger issue at the time, but I think I also told him that it was taking Y into account when it shouldn't

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L126[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20160104 mappings to Forge Maven.

L127[02:00:06] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20160104-1.8.9.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20160104" in build.gradle).

L128[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L147[02:42:56] <solidDoWant1> if I say this.nbt = (nbt == null ? null : (NBTTagCompound) nbt.copy());, this.nbt is gaurenteed to be a new copy, no way related to the origonal nbt, right?

L148[02:43:14] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> yes

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L157[03:09:52] <VikeStep> I learnt something new about Java today https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/exceptions/tryResourceClose.html

L158[03:09:59] <VikeStep> I've been manually closing things all this time

L159[03:10:17] <killjoy> Well I think I just helped my friend port his plugin to sponge

L160[03:10:31] <killjoy> I abstracted away all the bukkit so now it's easy to do sponge

L161[03:10:53] <killjoy> "damn. This is much easier with abstract methods"

L162[03:11:06] <ThePsionic> Oh nice VikeStep, TIL

L163[03:11:22] <killjoy> java 7

L164[03:12:04] <VikeStep> I've been using C# at work for a while and realised a lot of things I like with C# that I thought weren't in Java

L165[03:12:04] <ThePsionic> I code with java 8 compat so idgaf

L166[03:12:06] <VikeStep> this was one of them

L167[03:12:11] <killjoy> closeQuietly(c) > try {if (c != null) c.close();}catch(IOException e){}

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L210[04:34:19] <ThePsionic> eugh

L211[04:34:29] <ThePsionic> jumper in front of my train, missed my test

L212[04:34:34] <ThePsionic> great start of the year

L213[04:37:19] <luacs1998> ThePsionic, heh

L214[04:37:34] <ThePsionic> don't heh me :c

L215[04:37:38] <luacs1998> the rube goldberg machine my school used to take attendance crashed today

L216[04:37:51] <luacs1998> it didn't like 2016 :(

L217[04:37:54] <ThePsionic> lmao

L218[04:38:25] <ThePsionic> So everyone wasn't at school today

L219[04:39:42] <luacs1998> to the system

L220[04:39:52] <luacs1998> classes went on as per normal :(

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L222[04:40:13] <ThePsionic> that's too bad :P

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L232[05:11:31] <Wuppy> o/

L233[05:11:36] <Drullkus> \o

L234[05:11:51] <Wuppy> how's peeps today

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L240[05:36:14] <Wuppy> ugh such a busy day :V

L241[05:36:19] <Wuppy> and that without any programming

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L246[06:00:54] <PaleoCrafter> welp, wouldn't have thought I'd see snow this winter

L247[06:05:20] <Wuppy> :O

L248[06:05:22] <Wuppy> where

L249[06:06:28] <PaleoCrafter> northern Bavaria :P

L250[06:09:41] <Wuppy> eww bavaria

L251[06:09:44] <Wuppy> my least favorite beer

L252[06:09:56] <Wuppy> and that's coming from someone who has had Maes :P

L253[06:10:30] <PaleoCrafter> you wot mate

L254[06:10:41] <Wuppy> they dont sell bavaria beer in bavaria?

L255[06:10:52] <PaleoCrafter> of course they do

L256[06:11:13] <PaleoCrafter> oh, Bavaria as in the Bavaria brand

L257[06:11:25] <PaleoCrafter> no, never seen that around here :P

L258[06:11:54] <Wuppy> ah... they sell it here, it's the worst beer out there

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L272[07:15:15] <OrionOnline> Guys are TE only ticked on the Server side in 1.8.9?

L273[07:16:41] <OrionOnline> And is there a way to make them tick on the Client side?

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L279[07:28:55] <Lumien> Orion they still tick client side

L280[07:29:27] <OrionOnline> He

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L282[07:29:42] <OrionOnline> When i put a break point at the first line of my update method and check for world.isRemote

L283[07:29:46] <OrionOnline> it is always false....

L284[07:30:14] <ghz|afk> maybe the breakpoint is only active on that thread?

L285[07:30:21] <OrionOnline> Let me check

L286[07:30:23] <madcrazydrumma> Does the ServerTickEvent work exactly the same as the ClientTickEvent? I've registered it and all but my code does not run

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L288[07:30:55] <OrionOnline> Nope it suspends on all threas

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L290[07:33:17] <OrionOnline> I will be back, need to get my brother from school, will debug this then.

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L293[07:36:21] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, you there pal?

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L296[07:43:36] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: I happen to be here, yes

L297[07:45:16] <madcrazydrumma> Can you see whats up with my code? I explained the problem above ^ http://pastebin.com/ChkQ94h8

L298[07:46:02] <gigaherz> @EventHandler is for the lifecycle stuff in your @Mod

L299[07:46:19] <gigaherz> you want @SubscribeEvent for the stuff you register using MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS

L300[07:46:55] <madcrazydrumma> Ahh okay

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L302[07:47:50] <sham1> @EventHandler and @SubscribeEvent

L303[07:47:58] <sham1> Totally not names that are easy to mix up...

L304[07:48:04] <sham1> in their intent

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L306[07:48:19] <gigaherz> blame Java for allowing you to import inner classes by name

L307[07:48:20] <gigaherz> ;P

L308[07:48:25] <gigaherz> it's really @Mod.Eventhandler

L309[07:48:39] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, okay its still not decrementing anything :P

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L311[07:48:44] <sham1> But why 2 annotations for something so similar

L312[07:49:00] <gigaherz> that I don't know

L313[07:50:41] <madcrazydrumma> ;_;

L314[07:50:49] <gigaherz> in my ender-rift mod I chose not to import EventHandler directly

L315[07:50:50] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/EnderRiftMod.java

L316[07:50:56] <gigaherz> so I have @Mod.EventHandler clearly visible

L317[07:50:56] <gigaherz> ;P

L318[07:51:04] <madcrazydrumma> Ahh okay :P

L319[07:51:16] <sham1> I use @Mod.EventHandler as well thanks to IDEA

L320[07:51:20] <madcrazydrumma> But i have no idea why it doesnt decrement

L321[07:51:25] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: really it couldbe many things

L322[07:51:33] <gigaherz> do you call EVENT_BUS.register for it?

L323[07:51:47] <gigaherz> is Mod.PUBLIC_FIELD actually not null?

L324[07:51:53] <madcrazydrumma> EVENT_BUS

L325[07:51:56] <madcrazydrumma> yeah its not null

L326[07:53:14] <gigaherz> and it's on 1.8.9?

L327[07:54:01] <gigaherz> because ServerTickEvent is an fml event so in 1.8 or 1.7.10, it would belong on the fml event bus

L328[07:54:43] <gigaherz> the buses were merged in 1.8.8

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L330[08:00:34] <madcrazydrumma> Yeah

L331[08:01:16] <panda_2134> Is there any mod that backports the json model system to 1.7.10?

L332[08:01:29] <madcrazydrumma> Well im using forge version 1.8-11.14.4.1563.mdk

L333[08:01:33] <fry> -_-

L334[08:01:45] <sham1> fry's not amused

L335[08:03:04] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: then use the fml bus

L336[08:03:10] <dangranos> hm

L337[08:03:20] <dangranos> i freeze at "Texture creation - stitching"

L338[08:03:24] <gigaherz> panda_2134: not that I know of, but if you want to do it ;P

L339[08:03:45] <panda_2134> Haha

L340[08:03:55] <panda_2134> But i dont have time

L341[08:04:14] <panda_2134> You know, there is tons of homework...

L342[08:04:37] <gigaherz> then you'll have to convert the json models to ISBRH classes if you want to backport ;P

L343[08:05:09] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, I have a counter that decrements once per tick, but how do i make it so it would act in seconds? Would i have to use a separate counter and count 20 then decrement?

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L345[08:05:35] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: yes, or use maths

L346[08:05:53] <panda_2134> Just %20 and see whether it equals to 0 or not...

L347[08:06:03] <panda_2134> I think that works

L348[08:06:09] <gigaherz> just do... seconds = (counter+19)/20;

L349[08:06:16] <gigaherz> and oyu'll have a seconds counter rounded upward

L350[08:06:40] <gigaherz> or just "seconds = counter/20" if you want to round downward

L351[08:07:02] <madcrazydrumma> well I have a variable duration which i decrement once per tick through a mutator method

L352[08:07:08] <panda_2134> You can simply use mod...

L353[08:07:20] <Quetzi> you also want to check which tick phase you're in

L354[08:07:23] <gigaherz> panda_2134: then you still need two variables

L355[08:07:37] <madcrazydrumma> What do you mean Quetzi?

L356[08:07:42] <gigaherz> I was just suggesting to /20 when reading the value

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L359[08:08:08] <Hea3veN> fry: https://gfycat.com/AptLateAnemone

L360[08:08:16] <Hea3veN> that's animating the bones from code

L361[08:08:40] <fry> nice

L362[08:09:16] <panda_2134> My idea... will it work? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ixXKWSKI

L363[08:09:26] <madcrazydrumma> Should i register my tick handler in pre-init? Its still not being called

L364[08:09:38] <panda_2134> @gigaherz

L365[08:10:11] <gigaherz> panda_2134: yeah, I assumed that the counter was used elsewhere

L366[08:10:17] <gigaherz> to display seconds

L367[08:10:39] <gigaherz> but I see your point too

L368[08:10:43] <panda_2134> gigaherz: use t/20 instead

L369[08:10:46] <panda_2134> I think

L370[08:11:00] <gigaherz> if(t%20 == 0) { seconds = t/20; }

L371[08:11:05] <gigaherz> well

L372[08:11:08] <gigaherz> if(t%20 == 0) { seconds = t/20; do stuff }

L373[08:11:34] <fry> Hea3veN: take a look at this at some point: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/pull/2331 :P

L374[08:11:50] <panda_2134> Ok You are right ,too XD

L375[08:11:58] <panda_2134> I misunderstood you

L376[08:12:29] <Soni> how do I delay some code until the end of the current tick?

L377[08:12:42] <Hea3veN> fry: yeah, it's on my todo list

L378[08:12:59] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/KSjPtFS2

L379[08:13:04] <madcrazydrumma> So like this giga?

L380[08:13:33] <HassanS6000> Halp: I'm getting a crash when trying to show a player his inv + enderchest inv

L381[08:13:39] <HassanS6000> https://gist.github.com/hsyyid/3aca9e36728c8d1aae98

L382[08:13:45] <HassanS6000> https://gist.github.com/hsyyid/d4c8af821931d99234b5

L383[08:14:08] <HassanS6000> I'm opening a GUI chest and showing it. Works fine, until I try and move something or even press a slot

L384[08:14:43] <madcrazydrumma> IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: 50, Size: 45

L385[08:16:17] <HassanS6000> ye

L386[08:17:06] <HassanS6000> Also, I wanna make this server-side only

L387[08:17:23] <madcrazydrumma> Isnt the GUI client side though?

L388[08:18:30] <HassanS6000> madcrazydrumma, I think there's a way to display the GUI on client, but the container and such is all server side. Then I'd like to save this inventory via NBT - the enderchest is just a test, I'd rather make a new inventory which I read and wrtie

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L390[08:20:44] <madcrazydrumma> Hmm

L391[08:20:58] <madcrazydrumma> Maybe its better to create you're own inventory

L392[08:21:19] <madcrazydrumma> That way you can handle the NBT better yourself

L393[08:22:11] <HassanS6000> madcrazydrumma, ye I will

L394[08:22:16] <madcrazydrumma> ^^

L395[08:22:32] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, http://pastebin.com/KSjPtFS2

L396[08:22:41] <HassanS6000> madcrazydrumma, lol I fixed it

L397[08:22:47] <madcrazydrumma> How HassanS6000? xD

L398[08:22:50] <HassanS6000> all I need to do is player.displayGUIChest(player.getInventoryEnderChest());

L399[08:22:53] * HassanS6000 facepalms

L400[08:23:00] <madcrazydrumma> oh goddamn xD

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L402[08:23:48] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: dude I told you it's NOT @EventHandler! it's @SubscribeEvent!

L403[08:24:39] <madcrazydrumma> AHHH ;_;

L404[08:24:47] <madcrazydrumma> I changed it and neither worked rip my life

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L406[08:28:04] <madcrazydrumma> alright gigaherz it runs but it doesn't count in seconds xD it goes down so fast

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L412[08:37:59] <Soni> fry, can your animated model system be used for particle effects?

L413[08:38:26] <fry> no idea

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L418[08:42:59] <madcrazydrumma> Why does my counter go down so fast in my tick event even though i do % 20 for checking once every 20 ticks?

L419[08:43:46] <Rockers> Depends on the type of tick event...

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L421[08:44:36] <madcrazydrumma> server

L422[08:44:43] <Rockers> I could be wrong, so don't hold me on it, but I think certain event ticks don't get called every 20th of a second.

L423[08:44:56] <madcrazydrumma> Oh hm

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L425[08:45:25] <diesieben07> mad, you also have to check event.phase, every tick event is fired twice, once before vanilla logic (PRE) and once after (POST)

L426[08:45:55] <madcrazydrumma> so how would i go about checking the phase

L427[08:46:21] <diesieben07> do you knw how2java? :D

L428[08:46:26] <madcrazydrumma> ya man

L429[08:46:28] <diesieben07> because that's home.

L430[08:46:30] <diesieben07> *how

L431[08:46:36] <madcrazydrumma> lysm

L432[08:46:53] <diesieben07> read the damn event class man

L433[08:46:58] <diesieben07> it's not hard to figure this shit out

L434[08:47:35] <Rockers> EventPriority ~~

L435[08:47:44] <diesieben07> you guys...

L436[08:47:58] <Rockers> What?

L437[08:48:10] <diesieben07> the heck are you talking about?:D

L438[08:48:41] <Rockers> e.getPhase() == EventPriority.EVENTPRIORITYHERE

L439[08:48:55] <madcrazydrumma> Yeah I just did that

L440[08:49:12] <diesieben07> the fuck Rockers

L441[08:49:17] <diesieben07> this has nothing to do with EventPriority

L442[08:49:41] <madcrazydrumma> getPhase() returns an event priority

L443[08:50:04] <diesieben07> yes, that is not what you want though.

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L445[08:50:20] <diesieben07> why would this have to do anything with priorities?

L446[08:50:28] <madcrazydrumma> Do i want Phase#END

L447[08:50:28] <madcrazydrumma> ?

L448[08:50:29] <diesieben07> TickEvent has a field called "phase"

L449[08:51:01] <diesieben07> you have to choose if you want END or START

L450[08:51:29] <madcrazydrumma> if(event.getPhase().equals(Phase.START)) { ?

L451[08:51:48] <diesieben07> that will never be true, since event.getPhase() returns an EventPriority

L452[08:51:49] <madcrazydrumma> or this if(event.phase == Phase.START) {

L453[08:51:51] <madcrazydrumma> ^

L454[08:51:55] <diesieben07> diesieben07> TickEvent has a field called "phase"

L455[08:52:11] <Rockers> Oh, I'm looking at a totally different event xd

L456[08:52:27] <Rockers> Ignore me.

L457[08:52:38] <madcrazydrumma> I did Rockers <3

L458[08:52:48] <Rockers> ~~{@

L459[08:53:58] <Rockers> How difficult would it be to implement a custom shader for a block, if it's even possible diesieben07?

L460[08:54:09] <sham1> ask fry

L461[08:54:17] <sham1> He knows more about rendering

L462[08:54:25] <Rockers> Alright.

L463[08:54:41] <diesieben07> ...

L464[08:55:05] <Rockers> Unless diesieben07 knows of course.

L465[08:55:28] <sham1> :P

L466[08:55:32] <sham1> All this pinging

L467[08:55:39] <Rockers> I was intending on doing something like this. http://motel-magazine.com/room/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/page14.moonstone.jpg

L468[08:55:39] <diesieben07> why would I? seriously, what is it with people being a chat room and asking specific people?

L469[08:55:51] <diesieben07> instead of just ... asking and waiting for *anyone* to answer.

L470[08:55:54] <Rockers> Because you went "..."

L471[08:56:03] <madcrazydrumma> Even with the event phase its still not going every second D:

L472[08:56:06] <diesieben07> no, that was AFTER you pinged me :P

L473[08:56:10] <madcrazydrumma> ^

L474[08:56:13] <diesieben07> anyways, i am just salty because its fucking freezing here

L475[08:56:16] <diesieben07> madcrazydrumma, show your code.

L476[08:56:22] <Rockers> I'm not used to IRCs lol

L477[08:56:29] <sham1> How freezy is it die

L478[08:56:30] <Rockers> Anyway, brb

L479[08:56:30] ⇦ Parts: Rockers (rockers300@host86-131-138-242.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) ())

L480[08:56:35] <diesieben07> -5°

L481[08:56:37] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/32DQsi8E

L482[08:56:41] <diesieben07> and the stupid trains break down

L483[08:56:44] <diesieben07> i dont mind the cold

L484[08:56:46] <madcrazydrumma> Its 31 degrees here in the seychelles diesieben07

L485[08:56:50] <sham1> I just endured -16C today

L486[08:56:53] <diesieben07> i mind the incompetent german trains

L487[08:57:18] <diesieben07> sitting in a train that is already a replacement train and should have departed 20 minutes ago

L488[08:57:57] <sham1> and getting maglevs to Europe would be so awesome but...

L489[08:58:15] <madcrazydrumma> Hahaha xD

L490[08:58:33] <diesieben07> madcrazydrumma, you have to increment counter *always*, even when counter % 20 is 0

L491[08:58:40] <madcrazydrumma> really?

L492[08:58:41] <diesieben07> just do if (counter++ % 20 == 0)

L493[08:58:46] <diesieben07> yes of course

L494[08:58:48] <madcrazydrumma> ohh ye

L495[08:58:50] <madcrazydrumma> fml

L496[08:58:57] <sham1> Forge ModLoader

L497[08:59:25] <sham1> Also god damn it Ubisoft

L498[08:59:40] <madcrazydrumma> What did ubisoft do to you?

L499[08:59:53] <sham1> Tetris Ultimate

L500[09:00:14] <madcrazydrumma> lmao

L501[09:00:26] <sham1> Why cant we get good, official Tetris games to PCs

L502[09:00:29] <madcrazydrumma> diesieben07, okay now lets see - it decrements once and then stops xD

L503[09:00:40] <madcrazydrumma> Could it be the phase?

L504[09:01:18] <diesieben07> no, shouldn't be

L505[09:01:29] <diesieben07> where the heck is this counter field located at even?

L506[09:01:38] <diesieben07> are you sure you don't modify it anywhere else?

L507[09:01:43] <madcrazydrumma> Nope

L508[09:01:46] <madcrazydrumma> Its in my mod file

L509[09:02:15] <madcrazydrumma> wait woops the duration field is in the mod file

L510[09:02:18] <madcrazydrumma> the counter is nowhere else

L511[09:02:24] <diesieben07> what

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L513[09:02:44] <diesieben07> just post *all* the code related to it not just some snippet

L514[09:02:44] <madcrazydrumma> I just declare 'int counter = 0' at the top

L515[09:03:33] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/DJiLM5R6

L516[09:04:18] <madcrazydrumma> http://pastebin.com/BLHMF4mA

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L518[09:05:24] <diesieben07> no idea man

L519[09:05:26] <diesieben07> that looks alright

L520[09:06:10] <madcrazydrumma> ahh fuck

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L522[09:06:42] <diesieben07> use the debugger and see whats happening

L523[09:07:16] <madcrazydrumma> Yeah ill give it a go and see what i can scrap

L524[09:07:34] <madcrazydrumma> couldn't i also set counter to equal 0 in the loop at %20 so it doesnt take up space?

L525[09:08:06] <diesieben07> an int always takes up 4 bytes no matter the value

L526[09:08:27] <madcrazydrumma> that the same for every paradigm?

L527[09:08:38] <diesieben07> paradigm?!

L528[09:08:40] <sham1> in java

L529[09:08:44] <sham1> yes

L530[09:08:58] <madcrazydrumma> just a thought xD

L531[09:09:15] <gigaherz> hey any of you used JEI in a dev env?

L532[09:09:16] <sham1> In C and C++ (the languages that heavily inspired java and gave it a lot of syntax)

L533[09:09:17] <sham1> depends

L534[09:09:20] <madcrazydrumma> that's not the same necessarily for a functional language though hey?

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L536[09:09:27] <madcrazydrumma> Ahh okay

L537[09:09:45] <sham1> Java is a mixed paradigm with a heavy emphesis on OOP

L538[09:10:04] <madcrazydrumma> Yeah i know that ^

L539[09:10:22] <sham1> And being functional has nothing to do with it

L540[09:10:28] <sham1> Haskell has a 32-bit integer type

L541[09:10:34] <madcrazydrumma> Is it just the way the language is written?

L542[09:10:40] <sham1> Yes

L543[09:10:41] <sham1> ish

L544[09:10:47] <madcrazydrumma> ^ alright then :p

L545[09:10:51] <gigaherz> everything in a language is "how it was chosen"

L546[09:10:51] <gigaherz> ;P

L547[09:11:19] <sham1> that

L548[09:11:22] <gigaherz> eitehr because it made sense at the time, because of backward compatibility

L549[09:11:28] <gigaherz> or because the creator liked it that way

L550[09:11:36] <sham1> === makes no sense to me

L551[09:11:40] <madcrazydrumma> Ahh fair enough ^^ xD

L552[09:11:45] <madcrazydrumma> This stupid counter fuck me man

L553[09:11:53] <gigaherz> === is a way to write equivalence

L554[09:12:01] <gigaherz> in maths, it's 3 lines one above the other

L555[09:12:06] <sham1> Ye

L556[09:12:08] <madcrazydrumma> YAS

L557[09:12:10] <madcrazydrumma> ficed it

L558[09:12:12] <madcrazydrumma> fixed*

L559[09:12:13] <gigaherz> but when representing that symbol in programming

L560[09:12:15] <gigaherz> you often use ===

L561[09:12:18] <sham1> But in usual languages you represent it with ==

L562[09:12:45] <gigaherz> it's different

L563[09:12:46] <gigaherz> semantically

L564[09:12:51] <williewillus> gigaherz: yes, I started adding JEI integration to Botania yesterday

L565[09:12:53] <gigaherz> like in java == means reference equality

L566[09:13:02] <gigaherz> but it could have a === that calls a.equals(b) for you

L567[09:13:10] <madcrazydrumma> How can i send a message to all players in server? MinecraftServer.getServer.addChatMessage doesnt work

L568[09:13:11] <gigaherz> williewillus: is there a dev jar, or some maven?

L569[09:13:30] <williewillus> there's a maven https://github.com/mezz/JustEnoughItems

L570[09:13:48] <gigaherz> oh hey

L571[09:13:51] <gigaherz> I didn't notice that bit

L572[09:15:32] <sham1> Aww

L573[09:15:36] <sham1> So no cheating items in

L574[09:15:46] <gigaherz> ?

L575[09:15:51] <madcrazydrumma> Anyone? :3

L576[09:16:02] <sham1> "nothing but items and recipes"

L577[09:16:08] <gigaherz> sham1: cheating is part of "items" ;P

L578[09:16:19] <williewillus> madcrazydrumma: ServerConfigurationManager.sendChatMsg (get a SCM from MinecraftServer)

L579[09:16:36] <sham1> inb4 how

L580[09:16:45] <gigaherz> I don't know

L581[09:16:51] <gigaherz> I can't even make the item list show up

L582[09:16:51] <gigaherz> XD

L583[09:16:52] <OrionOnline> Is there a way to make my TE tick on the client side?

L584[09:17:03] <williewillus> there's item cheating

L585[09:17:04] <sham1> it does

L586[09:17:06] <williewillus> it's off by default

L587[09:17:06] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: they do

L588[09:17:13] <OrionOnline> mine does not gigaherz

L589[09:17:15] <sham1> TEs tick on both sides

L590[09:17:17] <williewillus> hit the settings button in the lower right and enable item cheating

L591[09:17:19] <sham1> Show your code then

L592[09:17:20] <gigaherz> you have to manually use if(!isRemote) to avoid it

L593[09:17:20] <gigaherz> XD

L594[09:17:27] <OrionOnline> nope

L595[09:17:31] <gigaherz> well I do

L596[09:17:32] <gigaherz> XD

L597[09:17:33] <williewillus> they do for me :p

L598[09:17:38] <williewillus> anyways show code

L599[09:18:25] <gigaherz> hmmm it worked in a new world

L600[09:18:32] <gigaherz> I wonder if it's because it was created before JEI was installed

L601[09:18:37] <gigaherz> or because it's a creative mode world

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L603[09:19:11] <gigaherz> yep works in creative

L604[09:19:23] <OrionOnline> Wait now it starts working again...

L605[09:19:27] <gigaherz> mezz: could it be that JEI doesn't show up in a save created without JEI?

L606[09:19:52] <gigaherz> wait what

L607[09:19:53] <gigaherz> now it works

L608[09:19:54] <gigaherz> wtf

L609[09:20:01] <OrionOnline> Yes now it works

L610[09:20:06] <OrionOnline> I restarted the client

L611[09:20:11] <gigaherz> I did not...

L612[09:20:13] <gigaherz> I just switched saves

L613[09:20:20] <OrionOnline> And whopa now the TE ticks on the client side......

L614[09:20:47] <sham1> :P

L615[09:20:56] <gigaherz> hmmmm

L616[09:20:58] <sham1> I dont want to say I told you so but...

L617[09:21:04] <gigaherz> how do I make an item NOT show up in JEI?

L618[09:21:05] <sham1> I told you so

L619[09:21:09] <gigaherz> XD

L620[09:21:15] <gigaherz> structure blocks are internal ;P

L621[09:21:20] <OrionOnline> sham1, i know that they tick on both side

L622[09:21:34] <OrionOnline> But i did not get the line "Ticking Client Side" in the log

L623[09:21:38] <OrionOnline> Yet now i do.

L624[09:22:56] <sham1> :P

L625[09:23:10] <sham1> Technical blocks

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L627[09:28:45] <williewillus> anyone have access to the latest 1.8.9 thaumcraft 5 beta?

L628[09:28:57] <williewillus> I need you to check the registry name of an item

L629[09:29:44] <williewillus> specifically, the inkwell

L630[09:29:58] <fry> inkwell?

L631[09:30:36] <williewillus> botania has an integration for thaumcraft 4's "thaumcraft:ItemInkwell" which apparently doesn't exist in tc5? :p

L632[09:30:52] <fry> what did that item do? :P

L633[09:31:27] <gigaherz> google doesn't have anything by that name

L634[09:31:31] <williewillus> idk :p haven't played with tc4 or 5. Last I played thaumcraft was 3 back in ultimate xP

L635[09:31:40] <gigaherz> hmm xcept

L636[09:31:45] <gigaherz> maybe it's the scribling tools?

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L638[09:32:33] <sham1> would make sense

L639[09:32:34] <gigaherz> yep

L640[09:32:46] <gigaherz> they speak about the inkwell when thalking about the ink pot with the feather

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L643[09:36:48] <sham1> so the scribling tools

L644[09:37:18] <gigaherz> that would be my guess

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L646[09:38:46] <williewillus> woohoo playable fps in a modpakc for once because 1.8 :p

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L648[09:39:58] <sham1> I get 300+ on 1.7.x FTB

L649[09:40:02] <sham1> Heh

L650[09:41:16] <williewillus> try pioneers' beta and see how many you get

L651[09:41:33] <williewillus> https://github.com/BBoldt/ThePioneers

L652[09:42:11] <sham1> multimc

L653[09:43:11] <Rallias> Which forgegradle version should I be using with MCF for 1.8.8?

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L655[09:43:50] <williewillus> sham1: what about MMC? :p

L656[09:43:56] <sham1> meh

L657[09:44:12] <williewillus> what do you use, the vanilla launcher?!

L658[09:44:13] <williewillus> :p

L659[09:44:43] <sham1> curse

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L661[09:45:01] <williewillus> gross

L662[09:45:17] <Flashfire> Does anyone know how to set the biome id of a predetermined area in the surface dimension at generation?

L663[09:45:20] <sham1> it gives people points for downloads

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L665[09:46:35] <williewillus> yup it was scribing tools

L666[09:46:37] <williewillus> thanks guys

L667[09:47:11] <gigaherz> [16:43] (Rallias): Which forgegradle version should I be using with MCF for 1.8.8?

L668[09:47:14] <gigaherz> 2.1 snapshot

L669[09:47:47] <gigaherz> see -> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/build.gradle

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L671[09:48:37] <Rallias> Thanks.

L672[09:48:46] <Rallias> Now... to figure out forge 1.8.9.

L673[09:48:59] <gigaherz> it's very similar to 1.8

L674[09:49:14] <gigaherz> the only two biggest changes are ITickable (new name for IUpdatePlayerListBox)

L675[09:49:15] <Rallias> gigaherz, Now... to figure out forge 1.8

L676[09:49:23] <gigaherz> and the tesellator

L677[09:49:27] <gigaherz> ah that's a whole other story ;P

L678[09:49:39] <Flashfire> And then there's some method name changes

L679[09:49:55] <williewillus> 1.8 is fun :p

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L681[09:50:40] <Flashfire> If anyone knows of any mods that do the same thing (set surface biome id) that are at least 1.7, that would help too

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L683[09:52:46] <Elec332> 1.8.8 -> 1.8.9 doesnt really have changes, only new mappings

L684[09:52:48] <Rallias> So... is there a means to have forgegradle just use the latest mappings?

L685[09:52:58] <Rallias> Rather than have to specify a mappings?

L686[09:53:05] <Elec332> Not one that I know of

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L688[09:53:29] <Rallias> (getting "Error: MISSING REPLACEMENT DATA FOR MAPPING_CHANNEL", assuming a lack of a mappings= line in minceraft{} is the cause)

L689[09:53:58] <Elec332> I aslways use snapshots

L690[09:54:14] <williewillus> yeah just choose a fairly recent one

L691[09:54:17] <Elec332> and whenever I feel like it, I update it to the current date

L692[09:54:18] <williewillus> I'm on Dec 29

L693[09:54:34] <Elec332> dafuq

L694[09:54:42] <Elec332> why am I on stable_20?

L695[09:54:51] <Elec332> -_-

L696[09:54:58] <Elec332> let me get today's snapshot :P

L697[09:55:22] <williewillus> that's 1.8.0 mappings.... :p

L698[09:56:38] <Rallias> Ok... is there a non-ganky 1.8.9 tutorial site?

L699[09:56:51] <Rallias> (that doesn't involve videos)

L700[09:57:41] <Elec332> try a 1.8.8 tutorial

L701[09:57:48] <Elec332> its that same as 1.8.9

L702[09:57:52] <Elec332> the*

L703[09:57:53] <williewillus> not 1.8.9 but TheGreyGHost's Minecraft by Example is pretty great from 1.8.x

L704[09:57:58] <williewillus> otherwise just read other 1.8 mods

L705[09:58:08] <williewillus> <plug> Botania and Aura Cascade and ProjectE </plug>

L706[09:58:31] <Rallias> ProjectE has a ganky license.

L707[09:58:33] <gigaherz> Wuppy has a 1.7 to 1.8 porting tutorial

L708[09:58:44] <gigaherz> http://www.wuppy29.com/minecraft/modding-tutorials/forge-modding-1-8/

L709[09:58:56] <gigaherz> and 1.8 knowledge carries over to 1.8.9

L710[09:59:03] <williewillus> how does our license relate to learning to port? :p

L711[09:59:06] <williewillus> and blame sin for that

L712[09:59:08] <williewillus> :D

L713[09:59:13] <Rallias> I'm not touching code I can't use.

L714[09:59:29] <gigaherz> use != learn from ;P

L715[09:59:36] <williewillus> seeing as all you'll be able to make use of is vanilla lines... :p

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L717[10:00:27] <Rallias> gigaherz, Considering how the whole world is basically analfucky about copyright, that's not a distinction I'm particularily fond of making.

L718[10:00:42] <gigaherz> I know

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L721[10:03:27] <Nitrodev> Hi

L722[10:04:00] <sham1> so

L723[10:04:10] <williewillus> so

L724[10:04:31] <Nitrodev> so what

L725[10:04:52] <OrionOnline> Why are breakpoints in Runnables not hit?

L726[10:05:16] <sham1> is the runnable ever ran

L727[10:05:24] <OrionOnline> I think it should be

L728[10:05:28] <OrionOnline> ONe sec will try

L729[10:06:03] <sham1> You gone to the library yet

L730[10:06:13] <OrionOnline> Yes why?

L731[10:06:19] <sham1> not you

L732[10:06:20] <sham1> Nitro

L733[10:06:23] <sham1> But nice to hear :P

L734[10:06:26] <OrionOnline> :P

L735[10:06:30] <Nitrodev> they aren't open till the 7th

L736[10:06:44] <Nitrodev> so not yet but i will

L737[10:07:13] <sham1> Hmm

L738[10:07:31] <sham1> Been eyeballin' a java book to get

L739[10:07:35] <sham1> I presume

L740[10:07:40] <sham1> And propably some other stuff

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L742[10:07:47] <sham1> Reading is always fun

L743[10:07:53] <Nitrodev> yeah

L744[10:08:04] <madcrazydrumma> How could I check if the player has say 65 of an item in his/her inventory?

L745[10:08:10] * sham1 proseeds to continue reading Les Misérables

L746[10:08:10] <madcrazydrumma> So 1 stack + 1 item

L747[10:08:18] <Rallias> How do I set the heap size when running setupDecompWorkspace from Idea?

L748[10:08:40] <madcrazydrumma> Rallias, can't you set it after the workspace is created?

L749[10:08:54] <sham1> you scan all the itemstack inside your player's inventory and if that itemstack contains that one item, add its stacksize to your counter

L750[10:09:11] <Rallias> madcrazydrumma, I honestly have no clue.

L751[10:09:21] <sham1> yes you can

L752[10:09:31] <sham1> When IDEAing

L753[10:09:41] <sham1> You import the gradle file as your project

L754[10:09:58] <sham1> Then after it has set itself up you run setupDecompWorkspace

L755[10:10:03] <sham1> And then you are happy

L756[10:10:18] <Rallias> I'm happy with exceeding my max heap size.

L757[10:10:28] <sham1> run from your CMD...

L758[10:10:30] <Quetzi> i add org.gradle.jvmargs=-Xmx1200M to a gradle.properties file

L759[10:10:53] <Rallias> Thank you.

L760[10:12:25] <Rallias> Mmm, needed quotes, but that seems to have worked.

L761[10:14:56] <madcrazydrumma> sham1, how do i get the stacksize from the item?

L762[10:15:09] <sham1> itemstack has a field

L763[10:15:19] <sham1> and before you say anythinbg

L764[10:15:28] <sham1> All items in your inventory are itemstacks

L765[10:15:31] <madcrazydrumma> Oh i was looking for an accessor method xD

L766[10:15:33] <madcrazydrumma> Yeah i know that ^

L767[10:15:47] <madcrazydrumma> thePlayer#getInventory() returns an array of itemstacks

L768[10:16:22] <sham1> yeah

L769[10:16:35] <sham1> MC does not really show that great java idioms

L770[10:16:57] <madcrazydrumma> ^^ i hate the mc code

L771[10:17:25] <madcrazydrumma> its not even just java idioms its OOP in general

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L773[10:17:51] <sham1> True enopugh

L774[10:17:54] <sham1> But OOP is so large

L775[10:17:59] <sham1> as a general thing

L776[10:18:20] <madcrazydrumma> Let me rephrase.. "as an imperative idiom"

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L778[10:20:02] <madcrazydrumma> sham1, http://pastebin.com/8sSqcvgh - getting a null pointer on this: if(i.getItem().equals(item)) {

L779[10:20:27] <Overreacted> Hey again, what is the use of IRecipe#getRecipeSize()?

L780[10:21:00] <madcrazydrumma> Overreacted, returns the size of the recipe area

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L782[10:21:20] <Overreacted> what size? Say if I return 10, what difference does it make?

L783[10:21:43] <madcrazydrumma> what extends IRecipe?

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L785[10:22:10] <Nitrodev> you can return any number between 1 and 9

L786[10:22:17] <Nitrodev> if i remember coorectly

L787[10:22:41] <Nitrodev> but it literally returns the size of your recipe

L788[10:22:49] <madcrazydrumma> ^^

L789[10:22:58] <Overreacted> Yet RecipesArmorDyes returns 10

L790[10:23:05] <sham1> Hmm

L791[10:23:09] <sham1> Quite curious

L792[10:23:11] <Nitrodev> i haven't seen that

L793[10:23:16] <madcrazydrumma> Me neither

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L795[10:23:33] <Nitrodev> i'm pulling up my project

L796[10:23:44] <Overreacted> I don't know what you exactly mean with 'size', I've read somewhere that it is only used for sorting recipes

L797[10:24:02] <Overreacted> http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=22542.0 right here

L798[10:24:10] <madcrazydrumma> any idea sham?

L799[10:24:37] <Nitrodev> the size the recipe takes

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L801[10:24:57] <Overreacted> So if it takes up more size, it will...?

L802[10:25:18] <Nitrodev> more the size of the craftin table? It would probably crash

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L804[10:25:55] <Overreacted> but it doesn't really define how many items you can put in the grid

L805[10:26:52] <Nitrodev> how many items in a single grid?

L806[10:27:57] <Overreacted> yup if I for instance return 3 in my recipe, I can still fill all the crafting grid slots

L807[10:28:27] <madcrazydrumma> Anyone help with my issue? xD

L808[10:29:07] <Overreacted> As soon as I understand what you are trying to do with that ItemStack i : inv

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L810[10:29:35] <madcrazydrumma> Iterate through the player's inventory

L811[10:29:55] <madcrazydrumma> Simple java isnt it?

L812[10:30:06] <Overreacted> Probably, I'm really not that good

L813[10:30:26] <Nitrodev> time to pull the files from the git repo

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L815[10:30:33] <madcrazydrumma> lmao

L816[10:31:25] <Overreacted> but I would do for(int i = 0; i < player.inventory.length; ++i)

L817[10:31:39] <Nitrodev> Overreacted, many have said this to me aswell so learn atlest the basics of java before starting to make mods

L818[10:31:44] <Overreacted> and then get the current Itemstack as in ItemStack i = player.inventory[i]

L819[10:32:14] <Overreacted> I know the basics of Java

L820[10:32:18] <Nitrodev> okay

L821[10:32:40] <Overreacted> It's just that I never saw a for loop like that

L822[10:33:06] <Overreacted> and that's not necessarily bad

L823[10:34:06] <madcrazydrumma> Hahaha

L824[10:34:16] <madcrazydrumma> For loops are done like this when dealing with objects

L825[10:34:24] <Overreacted> oh and madcrazydrumma before you try to check if an ItemStack.getItem() equals an item, don't you nee d a != null check first?

L826[10:35:02] <gigaherz> ItemStack.areItemsEqual(a,b)

L827[10:35:05] <gigaherz> does null-check for you

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L829[10:35:08] <madcrazydrumma> Would i need the != null check even when i check the length of the inventory? Why would you have an empty itemstack?

L830[10:35:24] <Overreacted> Okay okay

L831[10:35:45] <Overreacted> I'll stop trying to give advice then :P

L832[10:35:58] <ZaggyMobile2> for (Blah blah : blahs) compiles to blah=blahs[i]

L833[10:36:17] <sham1> or iterator

L834[10:36:20] * Overreacted takes notes

L835[10:36:25] <gigaherz> also you probably shouldn't rely on using .length and [i], you should be using the IInventory interface

L836[10:36:28] <sham1> depending on if your thing is implementing iterable

L837[10:36:28] <ZaggyMobile2> Well, i mean for arrays

L838[10:36:33] <sham1> yeah :P

L839[10:36:34] <gigaherz> player.inventory.getSizeInventory(), player.inventory.getStackInSlot(i)

L840[10:36:55] <madcrazydrumma> Example gigaherz?

L841[10:36:58] <ZaggyMobile2> Indeed

L842[10:37:03] <gigaherz> I just said it

L843[10:37:03] <gigaherz> ;P

L844[10:37:08] <Overreacted> yeah I just quickly whipped that up out of my head just now tbh

L845[10:37:26] <gigaherz> which btw are quite poorly named

L846[10:37:32] <madcrazydrumma> So a for loop like Overreacted wrote using getSizeInventory

L847[10:37:41] <gigaherz> those really are just .size() and .get(i) from the common list access style

L848[10:37:42] <gigaherz> ;P

L849[10:37:43] <madcrazydrumma> Ohwait let me take a look at what they return

L850[10:37:48] <madcrazydrumma> oh ffs mojang

L851[10:37:52] <madcrazydrumma> microsoft*

L852[10:38:02] <gigaherz> ?

L853[10:38:03] <ZaggyMobile2> They return int and ItemStack

L854[10:38:13] <sham1> microsoft had nothing to do with IInventory

L855[10:38:17] <sham1> That was mojang

L856[10:38:18] <gigaherz> getSizeInventory and getStackInSlot are mcp names

L857[10:38:26] <madcrazydrumma> Oh ignore me and sham

L858[10:38:34] <gigaherz> we don't really know the original names

L859[10:38:39] <gigaherz> my guess is .size() and .get(i)

L860[10:38:40] <gigaherz> XD

L861[10:38:40] <madcrazydrumma> ^^

L862[10:38:52] <ZaggyMobile2> For an interface?

L863[10:38:57] <sham1> would make sense

L864[10:39:00] <madcrazydrumma> But in theory shouldn't my code work giga?

L865[10:39:11] <gigaherz> no idea I didn't look

L866[10:39:11] <ZaggyMobile2> I would think they'd be a little more specific no?

L867[10:39:15] <madcrazydrumma> lmao

L868[10:39:16] <gigaherz> ZaggyMobile2: why?

L869[10:39:38] <gigaherz> the closest you make it to List<T> the easier it is to use

L870[10:39:43] <ZaggyMobile2> In case something is implementing two interfaces with similar functions

L871[10:39:50] <OrionOnline> Dang i need to redo my whole multiblock system in 1.8

L872[10:40:01] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: I feel your pain ;p

L873[10:40:08] <OrionOnline> Thanks

L874[10:40:09] <gigaherz> I just ported a multiblock to 1.8.9

L875[10:40:26] <OrionOnline> For some reason my multiblocks are not staying connected anymore on world load....

L876[10:40:47] <OrionOnline> Or other, they stay connected, but the client somehow messes up.

L877[10:40:57] <gigaherz> ZaggyMobile2: if you have two list-style interfaces in the same object, you are probably doing it wrong ;P

L878[10:41:09] <ZaggyMobile2> Maybe

L879[10:41:17] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, http://pastebin.com/8sSqcvgh - getting a null pointer on this: if(i.getItem().equals(item)) {

L880[10:41:18] <madcrazydrumma> my old code ^

L881[10:41:23] <OrionOnline> I would probably better change the way structure are written to disk

L882[10:41:28] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: don't do that

L883[10:41:31] <ZaggyMobile2> Don't use equals

L884[10:41:33] <gigaherz> use ItemStacks.areItemsEqual

L885[10:41:38] <gigaherz> use ItemStack.areItemsEqual *

L886[10:41:46] <OrionOnline> And then send that over

L887[10:41:47] <ZaggyMobile2> Nah just use ==:P

L888[10:42:02] <gigaherz> areItemsEqual checks for null

L889[10:42:05] <gigaherz> and compares metadata

L890[10:42:16] <ZaggyMobile2> Mm, metadata, yeah

L891[10:42:24] <madcrazydrumma> Oh

L892[10:42:31] <gigaherz> it even checks the wildcard value

L893[10:42:33] <ZaggyMobile2> I guess I was reading his code at face value

L894[10:42:41] <madcrazydrumma> I didn't know the mc code had that :P

L895[10:42:45] <gigaherz> and if you need to compare nbt

L896[10:42:58] <gigaherz> there's also ItemStack.areItemStackNBTEqual or something along those lines

L897[10:43:09] <gigaherz> which again

L898[10:43:12] <gigaherz> it poorly named

L899[10:43:17] <gigaherz> and the original from mojang probably has

L900[10:43:18] <madcrazydrumma> xD

L901[10:43:20] <gigaherz> ItemStack.compare

L902[10:43:25] <gigaherz> and ItemStack.compareNbt

L903[10:43:38] <madcrazydrumma> So this: if(ItemStack.areItemsEqual(i, new ItemStack(item))) { ?

L904[10:43:41] <ZaggyMobile2> Crowdsourcing problems!

L905[10:43:58] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: hmf

L906[10:44:07] <gigaherz> is the comparison really only with an item?

L907[10:44:08] <gigaherz> if so

L908[10:44:08] <ZaggyMobile2> Compare is a different thing giga :P

L909[10:44:27] <gigaherz> if(i != null && i.getItem() == item)

L910[10:44:34] <gigaherz> if you aren't going to compare metadata

L911[10:44:43] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: what is "item"?

L912[10:44:44] <ZaggyMobile2> Which you really should

L913[10:44:54] <gigaherz> you probably want a specific item

L914[10:44:58] <madcrazydrumma> Well if my code encounters leaves which can have metadata then what should i do?

L915[10:44:59] <gigaherz> including subitems with metadata values

L916[10:45:01] <madcrazydrumma> ^

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L918[10:45:28] <gigaherz> new ItemStack(Items.leaves, 1, OreDictionary.WILDCARD_VALUE)

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L921[10:45:37] <gigaherz> or was it the other way around?

L922[10:45:52] <shadekiller666> preorders for the Oculus Rift start in 48 hours: https://www.oculus.com/en-us/blog/oculus-rift-pre-orders-to-open-on-jan-6/

L923[10:45:53] <shadekiller666> :D

L924[10:45:59] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: nice

L925[10:46:02] <gigaherz> I don't want one, though ;p

L926[10:46:03] <ZaggyMobile2> Make your method take an item stack

L927[10:46:16] <shadekiller666> why not giga?

L928[10:46:35] <gigaherz> well mostly because I believe it a gimmick

L929[10:47:08] <shadekiller666> i guess we'll see where it is in 6 months

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L931[10:47:17] <gigaherz> but also because the last thing I want

L932[10:47:20] <gigaherz> is more immersion

L933[10:47:24] <Overreacted> I personally hope it'll be a success

L934[10:47:33] <shadekiller666> i don't believe VR will fail this time around

L935[10:47:36] <gigaherz> losing myself scares me

L936[10:47:37] <ZaggyMobile2> To me it just seems a little less advanced than I'd like

L937[10:47:50] <shadekiller666> theres a shit ton of support already

L938[10:47:53] <gigaherz> so anything that threatens to remove my link with reality, is something I'd rather avoid

L939[10:48:03] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, so no idea? XD

L940[10:48:09] <gigaherz> heck I feel wrong just by using earplug-style headphones

L941[10:48:11] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: what?

L942[10:48:16] <Overreacted> How would it remove your link with reality? If it gets too much you just put it off

L943[10:48:17] <ZaggyMobile2> He told you madcrazy

L944[10:48:18] <gigaherz> you didn't REALLY explain yourself

L945[10:48:28] <gigaherz> I replied with the best i can do with the limited information

L946[10:48:35] <gigaherz> [17:45] (gigaherz): new ItemStack(Items.leaves, 1, OreDictionary.WILDCARD_VALUE)

L947[10:48:35] <Overreacted> As long as you have enough self-awareness tho

L948[10:48:44] <Overreacted> Wouldn't recommend it to lucid people

L949[10:48:44] <gigaherz> that's how you make an itemstack that allows any metadata value

L950[10:49:16] <ZaggyMobile2> Madcrazy, your method should take item stacks, not items

L951[10:49:18] <shadekiller666> seems Oculus Touch won't ship until the second half of this year... GG Oculus

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L953[10:49:27] <gigaherz> what's Oculus Touch?

L954[10:49:57] <madcrazydrumma> So new ItemStack(item, 1, OreDictionary.WILDCARD_VALUE) is all i need?

L955[10:50:01] <madcrazydrumma> for the comparison*?

L956[10:50:03] <Overreacted> probably like a movement remote or something

L957[10:50:08] <Overreacted> idk lemme research it

L958[10:50:33] <shadekiller666> https://www.oculus.com/en-us/touch/

L959[10:50:41] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: .....

L960[10:50:45] <Overreacted> yup, basically some kind of joysticks

L961[10:50:48] <gigaherz> no it's not ALL you need

L962[10:50:52] <Overreacted> to control in-game actions

L963[10:50:56] <gigaherz> I never give copypaste code

L964[10:50:59] <gigaherz> I make an effort to avoid it

L965[10:51:02] <madcrazydrumma> I dont copy paste code

L966[10:51:04] <gigaherz> I give you hints

L967[10:51:14] <gigaherz> and leave it to people to figure out how to make use of them ;P

L968[10:51:18] <Overreacted> oh and it's also a movements detection remote

L969[10:51:20] <madcrazydrumma> Would i have to create different cases?

L970[10:51:23] <shadekiller666> "We think Touch will set the bar for VR input"... uhh, not if HTC gets the Vive out before Touch... :P

L971[10:51:48] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: if you want to detect "any leaf", you probably want to use ore dictionary though

L972[10:51:52] <gigaherz> since that would include mod leaves

L973[10:52:00] <madcrazydrumma> What about any other item meta?

L974[10:52:01] <shadekiller666> overreacted, from what i've heard the tracking on them is good enough you can reach out and grab them with the headset on

L975[10:52:11] <Overreacted> I like the design, but seriously, whats up with the armband?

L976[10:52:14] <gigaherz> well I don't know what you want!

L977[10:52:15] <ZaggyMobile2> Madcrazy, make your method take an ItemStack as a parameter rather than an Item if you care about metadata!!

L978[10:52:23] <gigaherz> explain EXACTLY what you need

L979[10:52:27] <gigaherz> and I'll be able to give you a better answer

L980[10:52:28] <Overreacted> Won't people think they need to put them around their wrists?

L981[10:52:29] <shadekiller666> overreacted, ever thrown a Wii remote?

L982[10:52:30] <Overreacted> lmao

L983[10:52:37] <Overreacted> uhm no why would I

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L985[10:52:48] <shadekiller666> oh, the big circle things?

L986[10:52:52] <Overreacted> ye

L987[10:53:01] <Elec332> Hmmm, I've got an issue. Whenever this block is placed, it writes the player (owner) data to the tile, however, the next tick, that data (UUID) is always null, after a lot of debugging I niticed that when the tile is placed, it is "another " object than on the tick (looking at the hashcode)

L988[10:53:07] <shadekiller666> thats where the tracking LEDs are

L989[10:53:15] <Overreacted> ok

L990[10:53:17] <Elec332> http://prntscr.com/9lzw4k

L991[10:53:24] <gigaherz> Elec332: are you by any chance setting the data on the client?

L992[10:53:28] <shadekiller666> oh, and the inside of them have some sensors to detect when you're pointing

L993[10:53:28] <Elec332> No

L994[10:53:32] <gigaherz> or reading the data from the client when it's only set on the server?

L995[10:53:35] <Elec332> no

L996[10:53:42] <Elec332> I always skip the client

L997[10:53:42] <Overreacted> I guess they represent the digital "wrists"

L998[10:53:43] <Nitrodev> okay so why shouldn't i use static?

L999[10:53:45] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, The player sends a command: /command <itemname> - i get the item and i want to check the stack size total for all the same items

L1000[10:53:57] <gigaherz> Elec332: do you change the block meta/state?

L1001[10:54:00] <shadekiller666> and they're not large enough to fit around anyones arm

L1002[10:54:02] <Elec332> with: if (world.isremote) return;

L1003[10:54:09] <Elec332> No

L1004[10:54:28] <Elec332> The block has no meta/state, everything happens in the tile

L1005[10:54:30] <gigaherz> so all you do is assign data to the TileEntity after placing?

L1006[10:54:33] <Overreacted> Hmmm now that you say detectors it kinda makes sense

L1007[10:54:33] <Elec332> yes

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L1009[10:54:39] <gigaherz> well that doesn't make sense then

L1010[10:54:42] <Elec332> no

L1011[10:54:47] <Elec332> thats my problem :P

L1012[10:54:52] <gigaherz> the TE is only recreated when the blockstate changes

L1013[10:54:57] <Elec332> hmmm

L1014[10:55:15] <shadekiller666> tbh, i'm a little bit more excited for HTC Vive/Steam VR than i am for Oculus

L1015[10:55:30] <Overreacted> me too for Steam VR

L1016[10:55:59] <gigaherz> Elec332: if that were the case, all you'd have to do is override shouldRefresh

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L1018[10:56:12] <gigaherz> and return oldState.getBlock() != newState.getBlock()

L1019[10:56:21] <shadekiller666> i mean, they'll all work on every VR app, because it would be hilariously stupid if they didn't...

L1020[10:56:22] <Elec332> Ill try that

L1021[10:56:26] <gigaherz> instead of the default implementation that returns "true" always for mod-defined blocks

L1022[10:56:31] <Overreacted> So much game titles could design innovative new gameplay experiences with VR tho

L1023[10:56:32] <ZaggyMobile2> How do you set the te elec?

L1024[10:56:35] <shadekiller666> but i like Vive's tracking method more

L1025[10:56:41] <Elec332> Thats extremely annoying :P

L1026[10:56:43] <ZaggyMobile2> Err, change the data I mean

L1027[10:56:50] <Overreacted> imagine the market if you release a long-awaited game sequel or whatever on this platform

L1028[10:57:16] <Overreacted> as long as you dont screw up the key gameplay, you're good to go

L1029[10:57:16] <Elec332> ZaggyMobile2 The block doesnt have a state/meta (other than default/0)

L1030[10:57:29] <ZaggyMobile2> shouldUpdate shouldn't ever be called of the block state didn't change

L1031[10:57:35] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, my turn my turn xox

L1032[10:57:38] <gigaherz> Elec332: it was done that way because many big mods used to implement sub-blocks where each subblock would require a different TileEntity

L1033[10:57:44] <ZaggyMobile2> I didn't say metadata did I?

L1034[10:57:52] <shadekiller666> overreacted, they've scienced the shit out of how all this is going to work lol

L1035[10:57:58] <Elec332> Aha, I get that :)

L1036[10:58:08] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: aha so the player says the item

L1037[10:58:15] <Elec332> ZaggyMobile2 Its on a tile

L1038[10:58:15] <gigaherz> as a string?

L1039[10:58:22] <Overreacted> Haha, ok well

L1040[10:58:29] <ZaggyMobile2> Yes but how do you change the data?

L1041[10:58:29] <Overreacted> I'm going to eat now so cya for a while

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L1043[10:58:38] <ZaggyMobile2> On the te?

L1044[10:59:05] <Nitrodev> i was told i shouldn't use static in my code i want a reason for it

L1045[10:59:11] <madcrazydrumma> yeah gigaherz

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L1047[10:59:24] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: so like /countof minecraft:dirt ?

L1048[10:59:34] <madcrazydrumma> yeah

L1049[10:59:37] <gigaherz> Isee

L1050[10:59:39] <gigaherz> well

L1051[10:59:43] <ZaggyMobile2> IIRC there was/is a problem where setTileEntity invalidates both the old and the new TEs

L1052[10:59:45] <gigaherz> you probably want a version of the command

L1053[10:59:49] <gigaherz> that has also the metadata value

L1054[10:59:50] <gigaherz> ;P

L1055[11:00:01] <gigaherz> like /countof minecraft:dye 7

L1056[11:00:04] <shadekiller666> Vive is scheduled to release in April

L1057[11:00:13] <gigaherz> in that case

L1058[11:00:15] <madcrazydrumma> xD

L1059[11:00:16] <gigaherz> what I would do is

L1060[11:00:19] <ZaggyMobile2> Elec, you see that?

L1061[11:00:26] <IoP> Nitrodev: statics are bad. always bad, avoid if possible.

L1062[11:00:38] <gigaherz> ItemStack what = new ItemStack(item,1, WILDCARD_VALUE); if no meta is provided

L1063[11:00:40] <gigaherz> and

L1064[11:00:44] <Nitrodev> okay so they are just bad what a reason

L1065[11:00:49] <Nitrodev> more please

L1066[11:00:53] <gigaherz> ItemStack what = new ItemStack(item, 1, number); if the number is provided

L1067[11:01:18] <ZaggyMobile2> He should look at the give command for its item parsing

L1068[11:01:24] <madcrazydrumma> Okay ill give it a go :3

L1069[11:01:25] <gigaherz> Nitrodev: there is one and only one reason why singletons are preferred over statics

L1070[11:01:35] <ZaggyMobile2> It probably parses NBT as well

L1071[11:01:48] <gigaherz> if you have a singleton, you can replace the singleton with a proxy, and switch between implementations on the fly

L1072[11:01:53] <gigaherz> while static methods don't allow it.

L1073[11:01:58] <OrionOnline> Is there a way to see the Log Markers in the actual Log??

L1074[11:02:09] <Nitrodev> and i didn't understand a word

L1075[11:02:10] <madcrazydrumma> As a string i can do 'str.contains(":");' right?

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L1077[11:02:19] <madcrazydrumma> my java brain isnt working today

L1078[11:02:29] <Nitrodev> mine either madcrazydrumma

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L1080[11:02:51] <madcrazydrumma> rip

L1081[11:03:10] <OrionOnline> Is there some form of a ConcurrentList in java?

L1082[11:03:14] <ZaggyMobile2> That should work if you're using it the way it's meant to be used

L1083[11:03:24] <gigaherz> Nitrodev: you know how forge has the client proxy and server proxy thing?

L1084[11:03:32] <Nitrodev> yes

L1085[11:03:38] <gigaherz> that's why.

L1086[11:03:45] <gigaherz> if you called things directly

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L1088[11:03:54] <gigaherz> you wouldn't be able to load the right code depending on the situation

L1089[11:04:03] <gigaherz> the proxy allows making that switch seamlessly

L1090[11:04:11] <ZaggyMobile2> Those proxies are singletons, in case you didn't know

L1091[11:04:14] <IoP> damn Nitrodev already knows more about modding than i do

L1092[11:04:17] <gigaherz> a singleton

L1093[11:04:23] <gigaherz> is a concept of a class that only ever has one instance

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L1095[11:04:28] <gigaherz> hence the "single" part of the name

L1096[11:04:56] <Nitrodev> IoP, quit the sarcasm

L1097[11:05:04] <ZaggyMobile2> What would you call blocks sharing classes though? :P

L1098[11:05:25] <shadekiller666> holy crap... Oculus has boasted that they've wanted to be the most affordable VR headset on the market... but its rumored that the price point will be around $500 usd, or "at least $300"

L1099[11:05:27] <williewillus> OrionOnline: synchronize with a wrapper, synchronize yourself, or use CopyOnWriteArrayList

L1100[11:05:32] <ZaggyMobile2> Wow nitro, loosen up maybe?

L1101[11:05:37] <shadekiller666> where the fuck does that put Vive?

L1102[11:05:42] <OrionOnline> williewillus, okey

L1103[11:05:42] <gigaherz> ZaggyMobile2: in that case, the class is a template, but the instances are still singletons ;P

L1104[11:05:51] <shadekiller666> and why the fuck is it $500?

L1105[11:05:53] <gigaherz> sorta

L1106[11:05:54] <ZaggyMobile2> Ah I suppose

L1107[11:05:59] <Nitrodev> ZaggyMobile2, i thought this was a hostile chatroom

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L1109[11:06:09] <gigaherz> Nitrodev: only if you make it so

L1110[11:06:10] <ZaggyMobile2> Only sometimes

L1111[11:06:20] <Nitrodev> suuuuure

L1112[11:06:24] <gigaherz> Lex dislikes drama, so he'll slap the heck out of anyone being unnecessarily hostile ;P

L1113[11:06:38] <ZaggyMobile2> You're helping make it become one

L1114[11:06:42] <ZaggyMobile2> :P

L1115[11:06:42] <IoP> Nitrodev: that was truth. i've skipped that thing(too lazy to find good examples) and my 'mods' do not have any special code for client/server

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L1117[11:06:44] <Nitrodev> but i'm just going to stay with static and if i got issues with it i'll remove it

L1118[11:07:01] <Nitrodev> IoP, Oh sorry then :P

L1119[11:07:09] <gigaherz> IoP: soi you don't register items or blocks?

L1120[11:07:11] <gigaherz> so*

L1121[11:07:22] <gigaherz> or wait, are you on 1.7.10?

L1122[11:07:24] <williewillus> don't be hostile have a tiny potato https://imgur.com/fjGtz36

L1123[11:07:26] <Nitrodev> you can register iwth static

L1124[11:07:28] <williewillus> or 30

L1125[11:07:33] <madcrazydrumma> williewillus, lmao

L1126[11:07:35] <gigaherz> in 1.7.10 and older, you could get away with not using a proxy

L1127[11:07:41] <gigaherz> if you didn't have a TESR or ISBRH

L1128[11:07:47] <madcrazydrumma> Im not using a proxy xD

L1129[11:07:48] <Nitrodev> what are those

L1130[11:07:57] <ZaggyMobile2> Those are potatoes?

L1131[11:07:58] <madcrazydrumma> TileEntitySpecialRenderer or something

L1132[11:08:00] <gigaherz> TESR = Tile Entity Special Renderer

L1133[11:08:05] <IoP> "mods" i have only wrote mods which break the game or can be used to debug shit

L1134[11:08:06] <gigaherz> the thing that draws the book in an enchanting table

L1135[11:08:08] <williewillus> ZaggyMobile2: Botania's tiny potato :p

L1136[11:08:09] <gigaherz> or the beam in the beacons

L1137[11:08:11] <williewillus> it's a joke block

L1138[11:08:20] <gigaherz> ISBRH = the system in 1.7.10 and older

L1139[11:08:25] <williewillus> but he has tons of easter eggs depending on what you name the potato

L1140[11:08:26] <gigaherz> that was used to generate models for blocks

L1141[11:08:36] <williewillus> "generate models" heh

L1142[11:08:36] <ZaggyMobile2> Lol nice

L1143[11:08:38] <ThePsionic> williewillus: wat

L1144[11:08:52] <ThePsionic> i like it but wat

L1145[11:08:58] <gigaherz> williewillus: well pretty much, the ISBRH replaced the IBakedModel ;P

L1146[11:08:58] <ZaggyMobile2> Well it was kind of generating models

L1147[11:09:05] <gigaherz> was replaced by*

L1148[11:09:07] <williewillus> ThePsionic: have you guys seriously not played botania :p

L1149[11:09:11] <ThePsionic> nope

L1150[11:09:22] <ZaggyMobile2> Model's on the form of raw arrays on the gpu or something

L1151[11:09:35] <gigaherz> nah

L1152[11:09:37] <IoP> gigaherz: also aww block/items... that requires artwork

L1153[11:09:42] <ZaggyMobile2> *models in

L1154[11:09:44] <gigaherz> ISBRH would use the Tesellator

L1155[11:09:45] <PaleoCrafter> did the shader work, williewillus? :P

L1156[11:09:54] <gigaherz> to add items to the display lists

L1157[11:10:11] <gigaherz> IoP: wow you limitedyourself a lot :O

L1158[11:10:13] <williewillus> the pool? I'm gonna come back to that, got the item models working, and then I got distracted by JEI integration :p

L1159[11:10:24] <PaleoCrafter> lol

L1160[11:11:02] <gigaherz> oh yeah speaking about JEI

L1161[11:11:09] <gigaherz> I asked earlier but I don't know if anyone answered

L1162[11:11:16] <gigaherz> is there a way to skip an item int he NEI/JEI list?

L1163[11:11:19] <gigaherz> the*

L1164[11:11:31] <williewillus> ask mezz

L1165[11:11:40] <gigaherz> the block doesn't have a creative tab assigned, but it still shows up in the panel

L1166[11:11:51] <ThePsionic> JEI being a toned-down NEI?

L1167[11:11:58] <gigaherz> sortof yes

L1168[11:12:00] <Nitrodev> williewillus, you use static in your 1.8 port mods right?

L1169[11:12:01] <williewillus> faster, leaner, no coremodding :p

L1170[11:12:10] <ThePsionic> Neat

L1171[11:12:11] <williewillus> what do you mean I "use static"?

L1172[11:12:17] <gigaherz> it's an item/recipe browser

L1173[11:12:23] <gigaherz> a-la TMI/NEI

L1174[11:12:30] <Nitrodev> well i can see many static keywords in your coed

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L1176[11:12:35] <gigaherz> but skipping all the stuff on the left side of the inventory

L1177[11:12:35] <gigaherz> ;P

L1178[11:12:36] <Nitrodev> in git repos

L1179[11:12:42] <ThePsionic> goood

L1180[11:12:44] <ThePsionic> just lookup

L1181[11:12:45] <gigaherz> no day/night buttons, no creative mode shit

L1182[11:12:51] <ThePsionic> v good

L1183[11:12:59] <gigaherz> just the items and recipes

L1184[11:13:05] <ThePsionic> v v good

L1185[11:13:11] <ThePsionic> mezz++

L1186[11:13:28] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, getting an issue - it keeps saying there are no items in the inventory :s

L1187[11:13:33] <williewillus> Nitrodev: uhhh "using static" doesn't mean much, every programmer needs to use both static and instance members

L1188[11:13:37] <williewillus> so not sure waht you're asking

L1189[11:13:46] <Nitrodev> okay

L1190[11:13:48] <Nitrodev> nvm then

L1191[11:14:20] <gigaherz> Nitrodev: the beauty of programming is to juggle all the features and know when it's worth making use of them ;P

L1192[11:14:34] <williewillus> the fact that you asked that is worrying though, read up on static members and how they're used :p

L1193[11:14:39] <ZaggyMobile2> Static is good when you have code that is not local to a class and won't be overridden

L1194[11:14:47] <Drullkus> lol

L1195[11:14:52] <ZaggyMobile2> Such as math Functions

L1196[11:14:56] <gigaherz> there isn't really "bad" things in a language

L1197[11:14:59] <PaleoCrafter> actually, you want to reduce the amount of static stuff as much as possible, generally

L1198[11:15:04] <williewillus> ^

L1199[11:15:10] <williewillus> unless its stuff like utils

L1200[11:15:26] <gigaherz> but making a ton of singletons that you don't need, is also bad

L1201[11:15:30] <ZaggyMobile2> Utils is what I was talking about

L1202[11:15:42] <IoP> also static imports... grepping a keyword is not good

L1203[11:15:43] <ZaggyMobile2> So the code can be inlined

L1204[11:15:53] <shadekiller666> launching a gopro out of a cannon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLuU1MwI8GY

L1205[11:15:54] <gigaherz> coding is a balancing act between kludges and overengineering

L1206[11:15:54] <gigaherz> ;P

L1207[11:16:17] <gigaherz> and IDE refactoring buttons are the safety net

L1208[11:16:26] <Drullkus> lol shadekiller666

L1209[11:17:34] <ZaggyMobile2> I've probably done what you would call overengineering :P

L1210[11:17:45] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, says the items not found: http://pastebin.com/zAh8d23Z

L1211[11:19:14] <Nitrodev> https://github.com/Nitrodev/Warehouse-Storage

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L1213[11:19:24] <Nitrodev> there have a look and say if i'm using too many statics

L1214[11:19:54] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: just a note

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L1216[11:20:01] <gigaherz> if you use ":" to separate the meta number

L1217[11:20:08] <gigaherz> what will happen if the user says like

L1218[11:20:22] <gigaherz> ... /check modname:itemname ?

L1219[11:20:27] <gigaherz> ;P

L1220[11:20:29] <madcrazydrumma> yeah i realised x_x

L1221[11:20:42] <PaleoCrafter> just use vanilla's give syntax? :P

L1222[11:20:44] <gigaherz> you should probably make the number a second argument

L1223[11:21:04] <gigaherz> so that it becmes /check mod:item meta

L1224[11:21:07] <gigaherz> with a space

L1225[11:21:18] <madcrazydrumma> yeah but the thing is i already have other args afterwards and the command would look silly

L1226[11:21:34] <gigaherz> hmm then @n

L1227[11:21:39] <madcrazydrumma> yeah

L1228[11:21:42] <gigaherz> minecraft:dye@4

L1229[11:21:56] <gigaherz> which is how ItemStack.toString prints it

L1230[11:21:56] <madcrazydrumma> But what else is the issue?

L1231[11:22:21] <gigaherz> I don't know

L1232[11:22:43] <gigaherz> how do you get the item from the string?

L1233[11:23:02] <madcrazydrumma> Item item = getItemByText(sender, itemID); - a method provided by CommandBase

L1234[11:23:08] <madcrazydrumma> Got told to use it by someone here

L1235[11:23:13] <gigaherz> aha

L1236[11:23:19] <OrionOnline> what was the type id of a NBTTagList with NBTTagCompounds? 10 Right?

L1237[11:23:30] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: Constants.NBT.*

L1238[11:23:42] <gigaherz> don't use the numbers directly ;P

L1239[11:23:52] <OrionOnline> Which package?

L1240[11:24:03] <gigaherz> dunno, I write Constants.NBT and let IDEA tell me

L1241[11:24:05] <gigaherz> ;P

L1242[11:24:09] <OrionOnline> Found it:P

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L1244[11:24:19] <OrionOnline> There were to many when i did Constants.

L1245[11:25:31] <ZaggyMobile2> Wow, didn't realize this constants actually existed in fields somewhere

L1246[11:25:56] <OrionOnline> ZaggyMobile2, me neither :P

L1247[11:25:58] <ZaggyMobile2> *those

L1248[11:26:10] <gigaherz> it's in forge

L1249[11:26:21] <gigaherz> the constants don't exist in the MC jar

L1250[11:26:33] <ZaggyMobile2> Inlining sucks sometimes

L1251[11:26:35] <gigaherz> they were most probably inlined and excluded from the class

L1252[11:26:36] <PaleoCrafter> It's only existed since 1.7, so :D

L1253[11:26:37] <madcrazydrumma> screw this code ;_;

L1254[11:27:26] <williewillus> madcrazydrumma: what :p

L1255[11:27:29] <ZaggyMobile2> Are there any functions that have been unlined, or does that happen JIT?

L1256[11:27:36] <williewillus> inlining is all JIT

L1257[11:27:39] <ZaggyMobile2> *inlined

L1258[11:27:45] <madcrazydrumma> williewillus, says the items not found: http://pastebin.com/zAh8d23Z

L1259[11:27:46] <ZaggyMobile2> Obviously it's not

L1260[11:27:51] <ZaggyMobile2> Not for constants

L1261[11:28:06] <gigaherz> ZaggyMobile2: dunno about inlining functions,

L1262[11:28:13] <gigaherz> but we do know some functions are excluded on build

L1263[11:28:21] <gigaherz> because the server jar lacks them

L1264[11:28:25] <gigaherz> ;P

L1265[11:28:36] <gigaherz> so inlined or not

L1266[11:28:44] <ZaggyMobile2> That's fine by Mojang isn't it? Not the compiler?

L1267[11:28:54] <ZaggyMobile2> *done

L1268[11:28:59] <gigaherz> well the obfuscator may remove them not the compiler

L1269[11:29:01] <williewillus> madcrazydrumma: have you stepped through with a debugger to see if anything is being picked up?

L1270[11:29:13] <gigaherz> I include obfuscation in the build process

L1271[11:29:13] <gigaherz> ;P

L1272[11:29:25] <ZaggyMobile2> Yeah

L1273[11:29:29] <ZaggyMobile2> So do I

L1274[11:30:00] <williewillus> also I'm rendering a baked model using the blockmodelrenderer, and mymodel isnt being colored for some reason...

L1275[11:30:01] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: you really should put debug prints or breakpoints in there

L1276[11:30:02] <madcrazydrumma> I cant think about debugging right now ;_; haha

L1277[11:30:05] <williewillus> anyone have ideas why?

L1278[11:30:09] <gigaherz> and see if the item you receive is the one you wanted

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L1280[11:30:13] <ZaggyMobile2> But I wouldn't think that would be a function of an obfuscator

L1281[11:30:30] <gigaherz> williewillus: how do you color it?

L1282[11:30:32] <williewillus> item model is fine, rendering baked model in tesr gives a grayscale one (which is one of my variants, but the blockstate does not have that property set)

L1283[11:30:39] <ZaggyMobile2> Willie, using what function

L1284[11:30:58] <gigaherz> the internal functions used to render a model take a color param

L1285[11:31:10] <gigaherz> so using gl.color before drawing is usually ignored

L1286[11:31:11] <gigaherz> ;P

L1287[11:31:16] <williewillus> not glcoloring

L1288[11:31:19] <williewillus> the model itself is not colored

L1289[11:31:26] <ZaggyMobile2> No colors are done by tint index

L1290[11:31:32] <williewillus> i grab the bakedmodel from modelshapes myself then do mc.getBlockRendererDispathcer()..getBlockModelRenderer().renderModelBrightness(model, potato.getWorld().getBlockState(potato.getPos()), 1.0F, false);

L1291[11:31:33] <gigaherz> oh you mean items that need tints

L1292[11:31:57] <gigaherz> you'll have to replicate the tinting system, I guess

L1293[11:32:06] <ZaggyMobile2> No.....

L1294[11:32:16] <gigaherz> whatever function mc uses to set up the tint indices before drawing

L1295[11:32:20] <ZaggyMobile2> It does the tinting internally

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L1297[11:32:40] <ZaggyMobile2> There are no "tint indices"

L1298[11:32:43] <gigaherz> no idea, really ;P

L1299[11:32:49] <ZaggyMobile2> It uses vertex colors

L1300[11:32:52] <gigaherz> ah

L1301[11:33:38] <ZaggyMobile2> Willie you should use the world aware block renderer

L1302[11:34:01] <williewillus> where is that?

L1303[11:34:07] <williewillus> and would it work properly since i

L1304[11:34:07] <Nitrodev> Does the GameRegistry.addRecipe method care about if the letters are lower cased or capital

L1305[11:34:08] <ZaggyMobile2> The one you use probably doesn't call the block's getColorMultiplier

L1306[11:34:10] <williewillus> 'm doing it in a tesr?

L1307[11:34:12] <ZaggyMobile2> In the same class

L1308[11:34:15] <Nitrodev> when making the recipe itself

L1309[11:34:16] <PaleoCrafter> it does, Nitrodev

L1310[11:34:18] <madcrazydrumma> giga, im getting a nullpointer at this line 2 in this snippet: http://pastebin.com/jf1rvZAf

L1311[11:34:21] <williewillus> but the potato doesn't have a color multiplier

L1312[11:34:24] <williewillus> the texture itself is colored

L1313[11:34:27] <Nitrodev> PaleoCrafter, okay good to know

L1314[11:34:39] <ZaggyMobile2> Yes it would work properly, I use it

L1315[11:34:49] <williewillus> actually nvm it's being colored properly

L1316[11:34:51] <ZaggyMobile2> Oh hm

L1317[11:34:53] <williewillus> it's just selecting the wrong baked model 0.o

L1318[11:35:11] <ZaggyMobile2> And you're getting the correct baked model for the current state?

L1319[11:35:18] <williewillus> yeah

L1320[11:35:22] <williewillus> lemme pastebin blockstate json

L1321[11:35:28] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, im getting a nullpointer at this line 2 in this snippet: http://pastebin.com/jf1rvZAf***

L1322[11:35:41] <madcrazydrumma> ignore the *'s

L1323[11:35:49] <williewillus> http://pastebin.com/EYa46Y09

L1324[11:35:50] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: inventory slots can be null

L1325[11:35:54] <shadekiller666> Die Hard is STILL the best Christmas movie

L1326[11:35:55] <gigaherz> you can't just use i.something

L1327[11:35:57] <williewillus> somehow it was choosing the "grayscale" texture

L1328[11:36:01] <gigaherz> without checking if "i" is null

L1329[11:36:03] <ZaggyMobile2> Yes but you're paying the correct block state?

L1330[11:36:04] <madcrazydrumma> so inventory is a list of empty itemstacks also?

L1331[11:36:07] <ZaggyMobile2> Passing

L1332[11:36:13] <gigaherz> yes it contains ALL slots

L1333[11:36:14] <gigaherz> including empty

L1334[11:36:14] <williewillus> i just get the blockstate from the world

L1335[11:36:25] <gigaherz> empty ones are null

L1336[11:36:26] <williewillus> oh wait shoot

L1337[11:36:28] <gigaherz> non-empty ones are not null

L1338[11:36:29] <madcrazydrumma> oh lmao

L1339[11:36:31] <williewillus> I don't call getactualState

L1340[11:36:33] <williewillus> thanks

L1341[11:36:34] <madcrazydrumma> i didnt know that %

L1342[11:36:35] <madcrazydrumma> ^

L1343[11:36:37] <ZaggyMobile2> Hm

L1344[11:37:15] <Nitrodev> how can i make a recipe use a specific stained glass

L1345[11:37:26] <Nitrodev> wait nvm i don't need to know

L1346[11:38:06] <madcrazydrumma> Okay now even with the check gigaherz, it still doesnt print anything even with items in the inventory

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L1349[11:38:56] <glasspelican> Nitrodev: you get the item stack for stained glass then set the damage ammount for the colour you wnat

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L1354[11:41:29] <williewillus> you cant hotswap public static fields? 0.o

L1355[11:41:56] <PaleoCrafter> what do you mean, exactly? :P

L1356[11:42:06] <PaleoCrafter> you can't add or remove any kind of field

L1357[11:42:18] <williewillus> I just tried to hotswap the value of a public static boolean field

L1358[11:42:19] <williewillus> and it failed :p

L1359[11:42:29] <PaleoCrafter> well, it wouldn't have any effect anyway :P

L1360[11:42:41] <PaleoCrafter> the static initialiser is run exactly once

L1361[11:42:57] <PaleoCrafter> you could, however, change the value directly with your debugger

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L1364[11:43:32] <Overreacted> Hey uhm how do I give an item a standard tagcompound?

L1365[11:43:35] <williewillus> if I wanted the TextureAtlasSprite of one side of a bakedmodel how would I get that?

L1366[11:43:46] <williewillus> itemstack.setTagCopmound(new NBTTagCompound()) ?

L1367[11:43:55] <Nitrodev> okay there is a weird problem with my block

L1368[11:43:55] <shadekiller666> uhhh

L1369[11:44:08] <Overreacted> yeah but is there a specific method?

L1370[11:44:32] <Overreacted> as in, is there a method that detects when an itemstack of that particular item is put into the world?

L1371[11:44:38] <Overreacted> or is that an event

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L1373[11:45:30] <Nitrodev> whenever the upper half of my player is right next to the block all i see is black

L1374[11:45:45] <williewillus> next to your block or inside your block?

L1375[11:45:47] <PaleoCrafter> Overreacted, normally you control the creation of your items

L1376[11:45:51] <Nitrodev> next to

L1377[11:46:08] <Nitrodev> i'm pretty usre it's next to

L1378[11:46:12] <PaleoCrafter> and if people use the give command, it's their responsibility to set the data correctly :P

L1379[11:46:14] <shadekiller666> williewillus, not sure that you can, because the TAS is the location of the entire block's texture, and that location is used in conjunction with the uv coordinates to find the proper location on the texture map

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L1381[11:47:00] <Nitrodev> i'm guessing it ahs something to do with the collision box

L1382[11:47:22] <Overreacted> yeah but basically itemstack.getTagCompound().getInteger("amount") returns null in my method, and since getInteger() returns 0 if not initialized and there is indeed an itemstack, the only thing that could be null is the tagCompound

L1383[11:47:34] <Overreacted> when I try to craft it, it needs to get this integer

L1384[11:47:44] <Overreacted> craft it with another item

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L1386[11:47:58] <PaleoCrafter> just never call itemStack.getTagCompound directly but wrap it in a check

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L1388[11:48:17] <Overreacted> Okay i get what you mean

L1389[11:48:19] <Nitrodev> Oh yeah i can't do anything about the bug

L1390[11:48:27] <PaleoCrafter> like getCompound(ItemStack stack) { if(stack.getTagCompound() == null) { // set default compound here } return stack.getTagCompound(); }

L1391[11:48:37] <Nitrodev> Because otherwise the mechanism won't work

L1392[11:48:52] <Nitrodev> the destroying of entities thrown into it that is

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L1396[11:56:44] <Nitrodev> okay i need to find a good example for multiblocks in 1.8.9

L1397[11:57:27] <Nitrodev> any ideas?

L1398[11:57:47] <OrionOnline> Nitrodev, depents on what you mean with multiblock

L1399[11:57:48] <williewillus> anyone familiar with the gl state of TESRs and rendering baked models pls halp: http://pastebin.com/WBt9UJq7 produces this (rotation and offset are wrong): https://i.imgur.com/yGVLsfQ.png

L1400[11:58:05] <williewillus> Nitrodev: gigaherz's ender rift :p

L1401[11:58:43] <gigaherz> well I'm not sure if my mod is a GOOD example

L1402[11:58:44] <gigaherz> ;P

L1403[11:59:07] <Nitrodev> "your" mod?

L1404[11:59:22] <gigaherz> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/233780-ender-rift

L1405[11:59:23] <gigaherz> yes.

L1406[11:59:25] <gigaherz> MY mod.

L1407[11:59:40] <Nitrodev> oh i thought willie said that sorry

L1408[12:00:05] <gigaherz> I did my multiblock in a sortof brute-force way

L1409[12:00:05] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/blocks/BlockEnderRift.java#L129

L1410[12:00:10] <williewillus> gah I hate openGL >.>

L1411[12:00:12] <gigaherz> I scan each and every neighbour explicitly

L1412[12:00:18] <williewillus> the baked model isn't even right without rotation

L1413[12:00:29] <gigaherz> it owuld be much nicer to have a "pattern"

L1414[12:00:33] <PaleoCrafter> btw, williewillus, you can parameterise TileEntity from 1.8.8 onwards :P

L1415[12:00:36] <gigaherz> that you can follow in an iterative

L1416[12:00:38] <gigaherz> way

L1417[12:00:38] <PaleoCrafter> no need for that ugly cast anymore

L1418[12:01:11] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/client/TESREnderRift.java#L12

L1419[12:01:14] <gigaherz> yeah much nicer this way

L1420[12:01:14] <gigaherz> XD

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L1422[12:02:33] <williewillus> with onyl a translate to x, y, z the baked model renders offset by one block in the z direction 0.o

L1423[12:03:05] <gigaherz> how do you export the baked model?

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L1425[12:03:21] <gigaherz> I mean is it json? obj?

L1426[12:03:26] <gigaherz> because for .obj models

L1427[12:03:37] <gigaherz> I have to put them on -1..0

L1428[12:03:41] <gigaherz> for them to export in the 0..1 range

L1429[12:03:49] <gigaherz> Z-wise

L1430[12:03:52] <MattDahEpic> how would one change the size of a magmaslimecube?

L1431[12:04:02] <williewillus> it's a normal json model

L1432[12:04:13] <gigaherz> MattDahEpic: I believe there's a tag for it in the entity

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L1435[12:07:02] <Rockers> Has anyone tried to register armour materials in 1.8.8 yet?

L1436[12:07:35] <williewillus> ugh this is so irritating

L1437[12:07:46] <williewillus> why is this more annoying than rewriting a whole model loader for special flowers

L1438[12:07:51] <williewillus> Rockers: yes

L1439[12:08:15] <Girafi> It's the same as in 1.7.10 ? :p If there is any changes they are very minor.

L1440[12:08:15] <Rockers> It keeps spitting this at me:

L1441[12:08:19] <Rockers> Failed to load texture: textures/models/armor/satanicofferings:enduirium_layer_1.png

L1442[12:08:43] <Nitrodev> it doesn't find the texture

L1443[12:08:45] <Rockers> It should be satanicofferings:textures/models/armor/enduirium_layer_1.png

L1444[12:09:03] <Rockers> In the texture name, I put: ReferenceVariables.MODID + ":enduirium"

L1445[12:09:40] <Nitrodev> can you pastebin the model file

L1446[12:09:53] <williewillus> I just did public static ArmorMaterial manasteelArmorMaterial = EnumHelper.addArmorMaterial("MANASTEEL", "manasteel", 16, new int[] { 2, 6, 5, 2 }, 18);

L1447[12:09:59] <williewillus> and it worked

L1448[12:10:07] <williewillus> no modid or anything

L1449[12:10:15] <Rockers> The model file?

L1450[12:10:25] <Rockers> I thought that was just for the item...

L1451[12:10:27] <williewillus> Nitrodev: this is armor stuff

L1452[12:10:31] <williewillus> there are no models for those

L1453[12:10:36] <Nitrodev> oh nvm then

L1454[12:12:01] <Rockers> If I do it your way, it spits this out:

L1455[12:12:02] <Rockers> Failed to load texture: minecraft:textures/models/armor/enduirium_layer_1.png

L1456[12:12:55] <McJty> Is there some handy function in MC/forge to convert the colors in ItemDye.dyeColors to separate RGB values?

L1457[12:13:15] <McJty> Or do I just do <<16 & 255 for red, <<8 & 255 for green and &255 for blue?

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L1461[12:14:51] <williewillus> not really, I just do EnumDyeColor.getMapColor().colorValue and extract it out of the hex

L1462[12:15:17] <McJty> ok

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L1466[12:20:25] <Rockers> I wonder if I have an outdated version of forge. It might have been a bug?

L1467[12:20:52] <williewillus> did you try with no modid or paths or anything?

L1468[12:21:18] <williewillus> oh actually... botania handles its armor rendering on its own

L1469[12:21:21] <williewillus> so no idea

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L1472[12:21:31] <williewillus> lemme look at PE

L1473[12:22:18] <williewillus> oh we override Item.getArmorTexture

L1474[12:22:35] <williewillus> and return "projecte:textures/armor/<whatever>.png"

L1475[12:22:46] <Rockers> Sorry, I would go and look aswell, if they still weren't doing maintenance work on my internet.

L1476[12:23:00] <Rockers> So, if I override that, it might work...

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L1478[12:26:30] <Wuppy> ugh what a day...

L1479[12:26:34] <Wuppy> I need a beer :PO

L1480[12:27:49] <Rockers> o/

L1481[12:27:50] <Rockers> What ya been busy with?

L1482[12:29:19] <Wuppy> buying stuff and bringing other stuff away

L1483[12:31:54] <Rockers> Welp, I have an outdated version of forge and my internet's too slow to update it atm...

L1484[12:31:58] <Rockers> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.8.8-11.15.0.1655/forge-1.8.8-11.15.0.1655-changelog.txt

L1485[12:32:21] <Rockers> There's nothing wrong with my code after all...

L1486[12:33:06] <Rockers> Is lwjgl a good library?

L1487[12:33:31] <gigaherz> hmf

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L1489[12:33:59] <gigaherz> there is no IBlockState-sensitive get(Un)LocalizedName, is there?

L1490[12:34:10] <Wuppy> woop woop Ima get some of the best beer out there tonight :D

L1491[12:34:16] <Wuppy> Texels beer = best beer :D

L1492[12:35:16] <gigaherz> meh it wouldn't even make sense

L1493[12:35:16] <Rockers> I wouldn't imagine there would be gigaherz, but then again, I'm usually wrong.

L1494[12:35:20] <gigaherz> the name is onlyused for the item form

L1495[12:35:36] <gigaherz> so basically I'd need an ItemBlock that has itemstack-sensitive names

L1496[12:35:45] <gigaherz> and I can't be bothered to do that

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L1498[12:35:59] <Rockers> I just found that I'm 20 versions behind the latest forge for 1.8.8. :D

L1499[12:36:34] <Rockers> Time to stop forge modding until my internet comes back.

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L1501[12:37:23] <Rockers> Why do you need itemstack-sensitive names?

L1502[12:37:33] <gigaherz> well

L1503[12:37:42] <gigaherz> I was improving the WAILA tooltips for my multiblock

L1504[12:38:06] <gigaherz> and I wanted to differentiate the display name for the corners and edges

L1505[12:38:19] <gigaherz> but meh

L1506[12:38:22] <gigaherz> it's ok as it is.

L1507[12:38:26] <Rockers> Sounds like some special block :p

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L1509[12:39:33] <AnnaMayBelle> So not sure if this is a forge issue or something else, but I'm running a forge server, and on respawn after death, all of the chunks around my character seem to vanish. This remains as such until I disconnect and reconnect to the server. Any clues what might be my problem?

L1510[12:39:53] <gigaherz> is there any errors in the logs?

L1511[12:40:03] <gigaherz> client OR server

L1512[12:40:32] <williewillus> both forge server and client right? is one part vanilla?

L1513[12:40:34] <AnnaMayBelle> Not seeing any on the server, lemme check client

L1514[12:40:36] <williewillus> also what forge version

L1515[12:40:52] <AnnaMayBelle> Nope, both are Forge, 1490

L1516[12:41:41] <AnnaMayBelle> And no errors in client either

L1517[12:41:58] <gigaherz> well with no mods, I have no idea what it may be

L1518[12:42:02] <gigaherz> no logs*

L1519[12:42:07] <gigaherz> coudl be any of the mods

L1520[12:42:24] <gigaherz> maybe updating to a more recent forge helps, but I doubt that

L1521[12:42:41] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, does your TESREssentializer not exist on github anymore or did you move it? the bookmark i had for it 404s now

L1522[12:42:53] <gigaherz> hmm

L1523[12:42:57] <AnnaMayBelle> Hrm, it seems to be server only, works fine in single player..

L1524[12:42:58] <gigaherz> shoudl be in the same place

L1525[12:43:02] <gigaherz> maybe I renamed

L1526[12:43:18] <shadekiller666> either way can you link to it plz

L1527[12:43:19] <Rockers> Have you tried doing a binary search?

L1528[12:43:23] <gigaherz> ah no

L1529[12:43:24] <gigaherz> moved

L1530[12:43:24] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/renders

L1531[12:43:27] <gigaherz> it's in there

L1532[12:43:55] <gigaherz> AnnaMayBelle: do you have any mods that mess with chunkloading?

L1533[12:44:02] <gigaherz> stuff like optifine or such

L1534[12:44:13] <shadekiller666> you did move it

L1535[12:44:18] <gigaherz> yep

L1536[12:44:29] <shadekiller666> used to be in /elementsofpower/client/

L1537[12:44:31] <gigaherz> when I unified the model rendering tools

L1538[12:44:41] <gigaherz> I put all of the renderers into their own package

L1539[12:45:10] <gigaherz> you probably want the RenderStuffs class ;P

L1540[12:45:17] <gigaherz> Rendering*

L1541[12:45:23] <shadekiller666> i want to make a digital clock

L1542[12:45:24] <AnnaMayBelle> None I'm aware of, I'm not running ChickenChunks. I am running ForgeEssentials which includes WorldEdit, so maybe that?

L1543[12:45:35] <shadekiller666> and i'm trying to decide how best to do so

L1544[12:45:40] <gigaherz> hmm

L1545[12:45:47] <gigaherz> I need to switch the TESR to using GlStateManager

L1546[12:46:07] <shadekiller666> to test the new group config stuff, and see if i can discover any feature for group configs that i don't currently have

L1547[12:46:13] <gigaherz> AnnaMayBelle: dunno, WE shouldn't break chunk loading :/

L1548[12:46:35] <gigaherz> maybe someone else can help better, I have no idea how to help without something concrete in the logs

L1549[12:46:45] <Rockers> Have you got a total mod list AnnaMayBelle?

L1550[12:46:48] <gigaherz> barring a binary search as someone mentioned

L1551[12:47:09] <AnnaMayBelle> Yeah, that's what I was thinking... It's actually very strange, I can use the /kill command right next to my respawn location, so all the chunks are visibly loaded... But when I respawn, I can literally watch all the chunks around me UNLOAD, starting with the ones closest and moving outward.

L1552[12:47:22] <AnnaMayBelle> Sure! It'll take me a minute to type up my modlist. I can also grab logs of things.

L1553[12:47:51] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, i do approve of the name "RenderingStuffs"

L1554[12:47:51] <gigaherz> usea console window ;P

L1555[12:47:55] <gigaherz> cd to the folder

L1556[12:48:04] <gigaherz> and dir /b *.jar

L1557[12:48:15] <gigaherz> or the equ9ivalent ls command in unixes

L1558[12:48:17] <gigaherz> -9

L1559[12:49:22] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: heh

L1560[12:49:27] <AnnaMayBelle> Okay! Never actually tried that before XD

L1561[12:51:33] <gigaherz> yo ucan also get a modlist from the logs, forge lists them during init ;p

L1562[12:52:23] <AnnaMayBelle> Gonna go that route, I'm literally pasting the address of the directory and my command prompt is saying it doesn't exist XD

L1563[12:53:28] <williewillus> near the point of paying someone to figure out openGL crap

L1564[12:53:31] <williewillus> ugh

L1565[12:53:34] <williewillus> (not really but)

L1566[12:53:38] <AnnaMayBelle> adventurebackpack-1.7.10-0.8c AppleMilkTea2-1.7.10_2.8o AppleCore-mc1.7.10-1.1.0 Aroma1997Core-1.7.10-1.0.2.16 Aroma1997s-Dimensional-World-1.7.10-1.1.0.1 AromaBackup-1.7.10-0.0.0.6 BigDoors-1.7.10-1.1.0 BiomesOPlenty-1.7.10-2.1.0.1067-universal Carpenter's Blocks v3.3.7 - MC 1.7.10 Chisel2-2.5.1.44 ChocoCraft-4.1.5 CodeChickenCore-1.7.10-1.0.7.47-universal CustomNPCs_1.7.10

L1567[12:53:38] <AnnaMayBelle> d EnderCore-1.7.10-0.2.0.31_beta FastLeafDecay-1.7.10-1.3 forgeessentials-1.7.10-1.4.3.1095-client fpsplus GardenStuff-1.7.10-1.7.0 GraveStones 1.7.10 -3 Hats-4.0.1 HungerOverhaul-1.7.10-1.0.0 iChunUtil-4.2.2 IguanaTinkerTweaks-1.7.10-2.1.5 ironchest-1.7.10-6.0.60.741-universal journeymap-1.7.10-5.1.0-unlimited malisisdoors-1.7.10-1.13.0 malisisadvert-1.7.10-0.4.3

L1568[12:53:38] <AnnaMayBelle> malisiscore-1.7.10-0.14.0 Mantle-1.7.10-0.3.2b morematerials-0.9.20150615.0-MC1.7-20150621 NEIIntegration-MC1.7.10-1.0.13 NotEnoughItems-1.7.10-1.0.5.118-universal Pam's HarvestCraft 1.7.10k Railcraft_1.7.10-9.8.0.0 SpiceOfLife-mc1.7.10-1.3.0 TiCTooltips-mc1.7.10-1.2.5 TConstruct-1.7.10-1.8.8 TMechworks-1.7.10-0.2.14.100 Waila-1.5.10_1.7.10 WailaHarvestability-mc1.7.10-1.1.

L1569[12:53:38] <AnnaMayBelle> 5 WAILAPlugins-MC1.7.10-0.2.0-23 Wawla-1.3.3-1.7.10

L1570[12:53:41] <McJty> How easy/hard is it to use the ModelBase system for an item renderer in MC 1.8.9?

L1571[12:53:53] <williewillus> hard

L1572[12:54:29] <McJty> Because it was really easy to use it for a TESR?

L1573[12:54:40] <williewillus> well you could use a fake tesr

L1574[12:54:58] <McJty> A TESR for an item?

L1575[12:55:04] <McJty> I mean for rendering in the inventory

L1576[12:55:13] <gigaherz> AnnaMayBelle: pastebin! always pastebin (or gist, or whatever) ;P

L1577[12:55:15] <McJty> The block renders fine in the world with my TESR + ModelBase

L1578[12:55:18] <AnnaMayBelle> Sorry XD

L1579[12:55:26] <williewillus> oh theen just use the temporary TEISR hook

L1580[12:55:28] <williewillus> in ForgeHooksClient

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L1583[12:55:43] <AnnaMayBelle> In fact, here's my launch log: http://paste.ee/p/iybJV

L1584[12:55:47] <williewillus> pass it item + meta + TE class and it'll use the TESR

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L1586[12:55:54] <McJty> williewillus, TEISR?

L1587[12:56:24] <williewillus> ForgeHooksClient.registerTESRItemStack, hooks into vanilla TEISR (TE ItemStack Renderer)

L1588[12:56:25] <McJty> How can a TESR be used without a tile entity being present?

L1589[12:56:38] <williewillus> it passes null :p, up to your tesr to handle it

L1590[12:56:50] <McJty> hmm ok

L1591[12:56:55] <McJty> That's doable of course

L1592[12:57:28] <williewillus> I'm surprised no one has attempted to write a Modelbase to model system loader

L1593[12:57:33] <williewillus> probably bc it's super hard to

L1594[12:58:17] <McJty> I was actually surprised my 1.7.10 TESR that used ModelBase worked out of the box in 1.8.9 :-)

L1595[12:58:22] <williewillus> ugh why is this stupid potato's axis of rotation wrong

L1596[12:58:27] <McJty> One of the few rendering related things that hasn't changed apparently

L1597[12:58:32] <AnnaMayBelle> I'm going to restart my server, connect, use /kill, then post logs of both client and server.

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L1599[12:58:57] <williewillus> seriously anyone good at immediate mode gl? T-T

L1600[13:00:46] <williewillus> oh shit it worked

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L1602[13:01:58] <McJty> ForgeHooksClient.registerTESRItemStack(Item.getItemFromBlock(this), 0, ScreenTileEntity.class);

L1603[13:02:04] <williewillus> yup

L1604[13:02:05] <McJty> Still shows checkerboard for my block in the inventory

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L1606[13:02:10] <McJty> So I'm probably missing something

L1607[13:02:33] <McJty> I'm also getting warnings like:

L1608[13:02:38] <McJty> [20:00:02] [Client thread/ERROR]: Model definition for location rftools:screen#facing=up not found

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L1611[13:02:54] <williewillus> uhhh I think you still need to do the whole standard item registration fare (setCustomMRL)

L1612[13:03:05] <williewillus> I do that then do the tesr thing and it works

L1613[13:03:13] <McJty> ok let me try that

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L1617[13:05:13] <McJty> Ok, the warnings are gone but still checkerboard

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L1619[13:05:50] <McJty> hmm hold on

L1620[13:06:12] <AnnaMayBelle> Okay, so I restarted the server, used the /kill command, got the same results... Chunks unload around myself, I'd fall through the world if I didn't fly. Here's the client log: http://paste.ee/p/R1gll ...and here's the server log: http://paste.ee/p/DCU5x

L1621[13:06:40] <Nitrodev> is there a tutorial on multiblocks for 1.8.9

L1622[13:07:24] <McJty> williewillus, can't get it to work for some reason

L1623[13:07:25] <gigaherz> multiblocks you mean using the same "id" for multiple things?

L1624[13:07:40] <gigaherz> or multiblock structures?

L1625[13:07:41] <McJty> oh wait

L1626[13:07:46] <Nitrodev> structures

L1627[13:08:09] <gigaherz> structures are the same thing, just using blockstates instead of metadata

L1628[13:08:17] <gigaherz> you still build them yourself, and manage them yourself

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L1630[13:09:12] <Nitrodev> that doesn't answer my question

L1631[13:09:38] <McJty> Nitrodev, well it basically means it is the same in older versions of MC. So any tutorial will do

L1632[13:09:41] <McJty> Mostly

L1633[13:09:55] <Nitrodev> okay

L1634[13:10:05] <gigaherz> you combine the tutorial with knowledge about 1.8 blockstates

L1635[13:10:13] <gigaherz> and 1.8 rendering

L1636[13:10:14] <gigaherz> that's all

L1637[13:10:25] <PaleoCrafter> huh, how new is IDEA's feature to disable "unused" warnings for methods with specific annotations? :O

L1638[13:10:31] <Nitrodev> okay thanks

L1639[13:10:37] <gigaherz> PaleoCrafter: no idea, I started using it in idea 15

L1640[13:10:45] <gigaherz> I dind't notice it before that

L1641[13:10:51] <PaleoCrafter> I didn't either

L1642[13:10:52] <McJty> williewillus, do you have some example code I can look at to see what I'm doing wrong?

L1643[13:10:52] <shadekiller666> Nitrodev, this is a Multiblock management system I wrote for 1.8.0 a few months back: https://github.com/RollercoasterTeam/Rollercoaster2/tree/master/src/main/java/rcteam/rc2/multiblock

L1644[13:13:40] <Rushmead> Anyone know how i can refresh my External Swing GUI? https://gyazo.com/537afd8b78f1540e955a8ae547011105 It does this wierd thing.

L1645[13:13:45] <shadekiller666> Nitrodev, it uses a crafting recipe-style registration system to define a "template" for a multiblock structure

L1646[13:14:04] <AnnaMayBelle> Well, I seem to have fixed it, somewhat! The "/p global spawn here" from ForgeEssentials gives me headaches, but /setworldspawn doesn't force all my chunks to unload. No inkling why.

L1647[13:14:14] <shadekiller666> where each layer on the y axis would be a single crafting recipe registration basically

L1648[13:15:12] <shadekiller666> once registered and created, a MutliBlockStructure can use its MultiBlockTemplate to check structure completeness, and even build/destroy the structure all at once

L1649[13:15:20] <Nitrodev> shadekiller666, that is alot of code i would need to understand

L1650[13:15:46] <McJty> Anyone here know if there is some special rule about when registerTESRItemStack has to be called?

L1651[13:15:48] <shadekiller666> most of it is stuff for handling structure rotation and such

L1652[13:15:53] <McJty> Because it seems to be ignored for me.

L1653[13:16:22] <McJty> I'm now calling it in preInit

L1654[13:16:56] <Nitrodev> shadekiller666, maybe so but i've learned to understand the code examples have

L1655[13:17:25] <Nitrodev> but that code is pretty hard to understand

L1656[13:17:25] <shadekiller666> ?

L1657[13:17:32] <shadekiller666> oh

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L1659[13:17:46] <shadekiller666> the checking is handled in MultiBlockStructure

L1660[13:18:09] <shadekiller666> https://github.com/RollercoasterTeam/Rollercoaster2/blob/master/src/main/java/rcteam/rc2/multiblock/MultiBlockStructure.java#L76

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L1662[13:19:53] <shadekiller666> MultiBlockTemplate is basically just a 3D array of BlockStates that gets rearanged for rotated structures and such, to check completeness, the structure itself (the blocks in the world) and the template are both iterated over in the same order checking if they match

L1663[13:20:20] <shadekiller666> if any is found to not match, the method returns false and iteration ends

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L1665[13:20:57] <Nitrodev> okay

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L1667[13:23:30] <McJty> https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/1.8.8/src/main/java/mcjty/rftools/blocks/screens/ScreenBlock.java

L1668[13:23:41] <McJty> That's the code containing my attempt to get my item to render in the inventory

L1669[13:23:46] <McJty> The TESR works fine in the world

L1670[13:23:54] <McJty> So I'm trying to use ForgeHooksClient.registerTESRItemStack

L1671[13:23:59] <McJty> But it doesn't appear to do anything

L1672[13:24:29] <gigaherz> o_O you implement Block, TESR, and IWailaProvider in the same class?

L1673[13:24:45] <McJty> What?

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L1675[13:24:53] <McJty> The TESR is not implemented there

L1676[13:25:13] <gigaherz> ah right

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L1678[13:25:42] <McJty> In the inventory this block renders as a checkerboard

L1679[13:26:32] <VapourDrive> blocks are the worst to get to render :P, are you registering the inventory model in init?

L1680[13:26:56] <McJty> All the registration code for my block is in that code

L1681[13:26:59] <McJty> So probably not...

L1682[13:27:05] <McJty> But what exactly do I need then?

L1683[13:27:11] <gigaherz> VapourDrive: keep in mind this is a special block with TESR ;P

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L1685[13:27:57] <VapourDrive> yeah, I would think that the registration for the inventory model would still need to be done in init, but I'm just learning how to work with the system

L1686[13:27:57] <diesieben07> mc you do have it set as a builtin model, yes?

L1687[13:28:02] <diesieben07> see the vanilla tesr blocks

L1688[13:28:46] <McJty> I never found where the vanilla blocks register their models

L1689[13:28:52] <diesieben07> they don't

L1690[13:28:54] <diesieben07> they are hardcoded

L1691[13:28:56] <Nitrodev> okay since multiblock structures seem a bit too advanced for me i'll do this the other way

L1692[13:29:19] <McJty> But what do you mean by 'have it set as a builtin model'?

L1693[13:29:24] <gigaherz> McJty: "inventory": [{ "model": "builtin/generated" }]

L1694[13:29:34] <diesieben07> and the chest json model for example is just: {

L1695[13:29:34] <diesieben07> "parent": "builtin/entity"}

L1696[13:29:55] <McJty> hmm

L1697[13:30:02] <gigaherz> ah /entity

L1698[13:30:15] <Rockers> Whoop! Whoop! 4Kb per sec!

L1699[13:30:17] <McJty> Let me try that

L1700[13:30:50] <McJty> Hmm no

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L1702[13:31:20] <McJty> But should that go in models/block or models/item?

L1703[13:31:32] <diesieben07> item

L1704[13:31:43] <gigaherz> item, but if you use forge blockstates

L1705[13:31:44] <McJty> I'm a bit confused about when to use what

L1706[13:31:49] <McJty> Because after all this is a block

L1707[13:31:49] <gigaherz> you cna do "inventory": [{ "model": "builtin/entity" }]

L1708[13:32:00] <diesieben07> no it is not :D

L1709[13:32:04] <diesieben07> blocks never ever exist in inventory

L1710[13:32:08] <gigaherz> not when it's in the inventory

L1711[13:32:12] <gigaherz> in the inventory, it's an ItemBlock

L1712[13:32:13] <gigaherz> ;P

L1713[13:32:22] <McJty> But for my other blocks I only have a model in the block directory

L1714[13:32:26] <gigaherz> yes

L1715[13:32:26] <McJty> Not in the item dir

L1716[13:32:34] <gigaherz> but you have a blockstate "inventory" right?

L1717[13:32:44] <McJty> Ok, I get this error now:

L1718[13:32:45] <McJty> [20:32:04] [Client thread/ERROR]: MultiModel rftools:block/screen is empty (no base model or parts were provided/resolved)

L1719[13:33:07] <McJty> gigaherz, yes

L1720[13:33:07] <gigaherz> hmmm when I got that

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L1722[13:33:12] <gigaherz> fry told meto use builtin/generated

L1723[13:33:55] <McJty> Same error

L1724[13:34:06] <McJty> It is trying to go to block/screen and not item/screen

L1725[13:34:16] <gigaherz> weird

L1726[13:34:47] <McJty> I also don't understand why I actually need this json when I do ForgeHooksClient.registerTESRItemStack anyway?

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L1728[13:34:58] <gigaherz> because one does not preclude the other

L1729[13:35:16] <McJty> So I have a screen.json blockstate like this:

L1730[13:35:34] <McJty> https://bpaste.net/show/662b829452b1

L1731[13:35:51] <gigaherz> try to use

L1732[13:35:52] <gigaherz> "inventory": [{ "model": "builtin/entity" }]

L1733[13:35:56] <gigaherz> in the blockstates json

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L1735[13:35:59] <McJty> ok

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L1737[13:36:16] <Rushmead> Can i do the reverse of this " this.entityRenderer.loadEntityShader(viewingEntity);"??

L1738[13:36:27] <gigaherz> reverse??

L1739[13:36:59] <McJty> gigaherz, all makes no difference

L1740[13:37:00] <Rushmead> So i like remove it :P

L1741[13:37:02] <McJty> No matter what I do

L1742[13:37:17] <gigaherz> McJty: sorry then, no idea. never used the TEISR thing :/

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L1744[13:37:31] <Elec332> Whats the problem?

L1745[13:37:39] <Rushmead> Because when i do setRenderViewEntity it doesnt actually render the player...

L1746[13:37:47] <McJty> Elec332, https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/1.8.8/src/main/java/mcjty/rftools/blocks/screens/ScreenBlock.java

L1747[13:37:59] <McJty> Elec332, trying to use my TESR directly for an inventory model for my block

L1748[13:38:04] <McJty> Elec332, but it gives checkerboard

L1749[13:38:10] <McJty> And I get:

L1750[13:38:15] <McJty> [20:36:29] [Client thread/ERROR]: MultiModel rftools:block/screen is empty (no base model or parts were provided/resolved)

L1751[13:38:37] <McJty> In world it renders fine. The TESR works

L1752[13:38:41] <Elec332> There is something for that

L1753[13:38:44] <Elec332> sec

L1754[13:40:09] <Elec332> yep

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L1756[13:40:17] <Elec332> ForgeHooksClient.registerTESRItemStack(Item item, int metadata, Class<? extends TileEntity> TileClass)

L1757[13:40:25] <McJty> Elec332, look at the code I pasted. I do that :-)

L1758[13:40:29] <shadekiller666> fry, whilst testing stuff for the obj loader ive found multiple situations where the fact that IModelStates can only be passed into the custom model loaders via ExtendedBlockStates in Block.getExtendedState() makes it really hard to do the required logic operations needed to determine exactly what to pass into the custom model loader

L1759[13:40:33] <McJty> It is what I'm trying to get to work

L1760[13:40:35] <Rushmead> gigaherz, so basically where the shadow is, is where the player is. https://gyazo.com/16c092ec2c95900666baa3bd526998a5

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L1763[13:41:31] <shadekiller666> for example, yesterday i was trying to make a block that displayed the strength of its redstone input

L1764[13:41:39] <VapourDrive> I already admitted to not really knowing how it works, but my suggestion would be to try to get that line run from init McJty, if you're open to suggestions

L1765[13:41:54] <McJty> VapourDrive, sure. Let me try that

L1766[13:42:18] <shadekiller666> i took a look at the vanilla comparator code to figure out how to obtain the strength value, which is done via World.getRedstonePower() generally

L1767[13:43:07] <shadekiller666> the problem i came across was that getExtendedState doesn't get passed a World instance, but instead gets passed an instance of RegionRenderCache, which makes sense

L1768[13:43:22] <Rushmead> !gm p_181560_1_

L1769[13:43:31] <Rushmead> !gf p_181560_1_

L1770[13:44:13] <McJty> VapourDrive, no difference I'm afraid

L1771[13:44:41] <shadekiller666> but due to the fact that returning an IExtendedBlockState from getExtendedState() that contains an OBJState is the only way to pass information into the OBJLoader from within a block, i didn't have a way of changing the group visibility settings

L1772[13:45:37] <shadekiller666> it might have been possible to do via a TESR and manual baking of the IModel, but i don't feel like "make a TESR" is a good answer for this situation

L1773[13:46:23] <Elec332> McJty, VapourDrive: Did you remember to return true on "isBuildInmodel" in the model?

L1774[13:46:45] <williewillus> McJty: oh I also remembered

L1775[13:46:48] <williewillus> for the tesr thing

L1776[13:46:52] <Elec332> otherwise it indeed doesnt work

L1777[13:47:11] <williewillus> you have to call the hook, call setCustomMRL, and in your json need to do "builtin/entity" as parent (like vanilla TESRS)

L1778[13:47:21] <Elec332> Like I said -_-\

L1779[13:47:39] <williewillus> well, that is in code

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L1781[13:47:48] <williewillus> you can just specify builtin/entity in your json

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L1784[13:48:27] <shadekiller666> fry, there needs to be a more flexible way to send data to the custom model loaders

L1785[13:48:31] <Elec332> It means the same thing

L1786[13:49:00] <McJty> setCustomMRL?

L1787[13:49:15] <gigaherz> setCustomModelResourceLocation

L1788[13:49:17] <gigaherz> for the block

L1789[13:49:32] <McJty> Where does that method live?

L1790[13:49:43] <Elec332> in the block

L1791[13:49:43] <williewillus> https://github.com/williewillus/Botania/blob/MC18/src/main/java/vazkii/botania/client/core/handler/ModelHandler.java#L583

L1792[13:49:55] <gigaherz> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(Item.getItemFromBlock(block), 0, new ModelResourceLocation(...));

L1793[13:49:56] <Elec332> But im not sure about that

L1794[13:50:03] <gigaherz> you haveto call it for any block that you want visible in the inventory

L1795[13:50:24] <williewillus> registerItemModel is down at line 1022 :p

L1796[13:50:37] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/client/ClientProxy.java

L1797[13:50:40] <McJty> Ah I actually know that and do that for my other blocks...

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L1799[13:50:44] <gigaherz> I have it directly in the clientproxy

L1800[13:50:52] <williewillus> and in models/item/<whatever>.json just have { "parent": "builtin/entity" }

L1801[13:50:55] <McJty> Yes it works!

L1802[13:51:04] <williewillus> what was it missing?

L1803[13:51:10] <McJty> setCustomMRL

L1804[13:51:15] <McJty> Note that I still get this error:

L1805[13:51:17] <McJty> [20:50:40] [Client thread/ERROR]: MultiModel rftools:block/screen is empty (no base model or parts were provided/resolved)

L1806[13:51:22] <McJty> Even though all renders fine

L1807[13:51:36] <williewillus> do you have an empty blockstate json for screen?

L1808[13:51:40] <McJty> no

L1809[13:51:46] <McJty> https://bpaste.net/show/662b829452b1

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L1811[13:52:08] <shadekiller666> fry, or some way of tying "custom" data to blockstate variants

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L1813[13:53:28] <williewillus> also, you don't need to have separate model files for everything

L1814[13:53:40] <williewillus> you can just declare the model in blockstate json and then fill all the textures in right there

L1815[13:54:42] <McJty> Anyway, I'll ignore the error for now. In game it looks ok

L1816[13:54:44] <UnReal> Can someone help me with geting the textures to load in Minecraft 1.8.8, i can get the textures to load in the world but i cant get the textures to load in my inventory

L1817[13:55:01] <VapourDrive> The issue of the hour :P

L1818[13:56:48] <VapourDrive> UnReal http://pastebin.com/5GtSH2ti is what I have that works for getting a block to render in both the world and one's inventory

L1819[13:57:06] <VapourDrive> That's called from preInit in my client proxy

L1820[13:57:09] <gigaherz> UnReal: didyou call ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation for each block/item?

L1821[13:57:29] <gigaherz> in older versions of forge you also need ModelBakery.addVariantName

L1822[13:57:40] <gigaherz> but newer 1.8.9 versions do that for you internally

L1823[13:59:08] <UnReal> gigaherz, i did it throw this http://pastebin.com/KhkxQiBv

L1824[14:00:14] <VapourDrive> if you do it that way I think it only works if you call it from init, for some stupid reason...

L1825[14:01:10] <UnReal> -_- i will try the outher way

L1826[14:02:36] <VapourDrive> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation is the "correct" way

L1827[14:02:36] <VapourDrive> The qualms of having a half a dozen different ways to do the same thing :/

L1828[14:03:35] <UnReal> ok VapourDrive i will try that

L1829[14:04:13] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/client/ClientProxy.java

L1830[14:04:16] <gigaherz> that's how I call them

L1831[14:04:16] <gigaherz> ;P

L1832[14:04:30] <gigaherz> I keep using addVariantName because I want the mod to work on older 1.8.8

L1833[14:08:39] <Rushmead> Can someone help me, When i set the renderViewEntity in 1.8.9 it doesnt render the player... code here: https://github.com/Rushmead/MineCamera/tree/MC1.8

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L1835[14:09:10] <Flashfire> Does anyone know a way of making Wither Skeletons spawn in the surface with mob spawners?

L1836[14:09:29] <Flashfire> I tried using a LivingSpawnEvent and setting the type but it seems to set it back to normal after that

L1837[14:09:58] <williewillus> how do you set the type?

L1838[14:10:03] <williewillus> and how does it go back to normal?

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L1840[14:10:38] <Flashfire> I set it use setSkeletonType(1)

L1841[14:10:55] <Flashfire> Not sure what's setting it back but maybe it's the check for WorldProviderHell

L1842[14:11:23] <Flashfire> That's vanilla code though so I need something that happens after that if that's the case

L1843[14:12:36] <Flashfire> I think it's the onInitialSpawn method that sets it back to normal

L1844[14:13:32] <williewillus> I don't think so, it doesn't touch setSkeletonType?

L1845[14:13:45] <Flashfire> It does

L1846[14:14:00] <diesieben07> only if spawned in the nether

L1847[14:14:01] <Flashfire> At least in 1.8 and 1.8.8

L1848[14:14:08] <Flashfire> Yeah that's what I want to override

L1849[14:14:19] <Flashfire> But I want to avoid creating a new entity class

L1850[14:14:25] <diesieben07> you wnat to spawn non-wither skeletons in the nether?

L1851[14:14:37] <Flashfire> I want to spawn wither skeletons outside of the nether

L1852[14:14:48] <gigaherz> the spawner calls onInitialSpawn

L1853[14:14:54] <gigaherz> AFTER creating the entity

L1854[14:14:58] <gigaherz> which calls setSkeletonType

L1855[14:15:07] <diesieben07> outside the nether... you can just call setSkeletonType

L1856[14:15:15] <diesieben07> the skeleton only calls that IN the nether

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L1858[14:15:31] <Flashfire> I did do that but the only event I know to use for spawn is LivingSpawnEvent and it happens before onInitialSpawn

L1859[14:15:42] <diesieben07> ... and?

L1860[14:15:55] <diesieben07> onInitialSpawn only sets the type IN THE NETHER.

L1861[14:16:05] <Flashfire> Oh, you're right

L1862[14:16:07] <gigaherz> and only if random

L1863[14:16:10] <gigaherz> otherwise defaults to 0

L1864[14:16:23] <Flashfire> But when debugging I see my setSkeletonType code executes but I'm seeing normal skeletons

L1865[14:16:44] <williewillus> did you accidentally do it clientside?

L1866[14:16:50] <gigaherz> are you doing it on the server? ;P

L1867[14:16:53] <Flashfire> I did it on both I think

L1868[14:16:53] <diesieben07> show your code.

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L1870[14:16:59] <Flashfire> Should I do it just on server?

L1871[14:17:10] <diesieben07> only spawn stuff on the server

L1872[14:17:26] <Flashfire> Alright, good to know, I will try that

L1873[14:17:43] <Rushmead> Anyone??

L1874[14:17:48] <williewillus> well dealing with the datawatcher trying to update it clientside will just discard (I think), you want to updateWatchableObject on server

L1875[14:17:54] <williewillus> Rushmead: ?

L1876[14:18:11] <Rushmead> Can someone help me, When i set the renderViewEntity in 1.8.9 it doesnt render the player... code here: https://github.com/Rushmead/MineCamera/tree/MC1.8

L1877[14:18:43] <williewillus> weren't there new hooks to change the viewpoint in 1.8? idk diesieben07 might know :p

L1878[14:18:52] <diesieben07> idk :D

L1879[14:18:57] <Rushmead> yeah

L1880[14:19:03] <Rushmead> setRenderViewEntity

L1881[14:19:07] <Rushmead> BUt that might have broken it

L1882[14:19:28] <Rushmead> As of course it works lovely in 1.7.10

L1883[14:19:35] <williewillus> ah

L1884[14:19:47] <williewillus> the player is not rendered if the renderviewentity is not that player

L1885[14:19:54] <Rushmead> And that would be it.

L1886[14:20:01] <Rushmead> Any ideas on how to fix?

L1887[14:20:16] <williewillus> use the new camera events

L1888[14:20:27] <williewillus> EntityViewRenderEvent

L1889[14:20:28] <Rushmead> Ooh

L1890[14:20:30] <Rushmead> ok.

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L1892[14:20:59] <Flashfire> Still getting normal skeletons

L1893[14:21:07] <williewillus> specifically CamerSetup subclass of it

L1894[14:21:08] <Flashfire> Here is the relevant code: https://gist.github.com/Samuel-Harbord/e62ce17f5f79e685b827

L1895[14:21:23] <Flashfire> It executes as expected

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L1900[14:32:20] <Rushmead> williewillus, not sure what to put in the event

L1901[14:32:58] <Flashfire> He's away at the moment

L1902[14:33:20] <Rushmead> oh

L1903[14:33:23] <Rushmead> didnt see

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L1905[14:33:44] <Flashfire> He comes here a lot though so I'm sure he'll be back sometime soon

L1906[14:35:42] <shadekiller666> :O how long has CameraSetup been a thing?

L1907[14:36:15] <Rushmead> TBH i dont even know.

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L1909[14:37:04] <shadekiller666> a few months ago i was tinkering with camera rotations, specifically for riding rollercoasters

L1910[14:37:16] <shadekiller666> third person is the most difficult

L1911[14:38:41] <shadekiller666> because the camera's origin point isn't locked to the player's head, it just positioned in the correct location with the assumption that the player is standing up

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L1913[14:39:11] <williewillus> I;m not sure how to use the Camera event :p

L1914[14:39:56] <williewillus> flan got it pulled a while back so maybe look at Flan's Mod? https://github.com/FlansMods/FlansMod

L1915[14:41:31] <Flashfire> Still trying to figure out the skeleton thing in case anyone can help (code is above)

L1916[14:42:36] <williewillus> huh wonder why EBXL isn't updated to 1.8

L1917[14:42:51] <williewillus> biome mods should be relatively easy since it's all simple blocks

L1918[14:43:06] <williewillus> actually they didn't even update to 1.7 without asie helping them so I'm not surprised

L1919[14:44:08] <Flashfire> I'm surprised nobody else has done it yet

L1920[14:44:39] <williewillus> I would but my hands are full ;p

L1921[14:45:10] <williewillus> why is TE closed source, anyone remember?

L1922[14:45:40] <PaleoCrafter> reasons

L1923[14:45:49] <williewillus> like? :p

L1924[14:46:06] <PaleoCrafter> probably horrible code :P

L1925[14:46:27] <Flashfire> Has anyone here ever successfully created a custom piston?

L1926[14:47:17] <PaleoCrafter> considering pistons were added by a mod before vanilla added them, sure :P

L1927[14:47:30] <Flashfire> I made one and made it almost identical to vanilla except where I wanted it different but it skips the piston animation and the base turns invisible for a split second when retracting

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L1929[14:47:59] <Flashfire> I think it might be related to the models

L1930[14:47:59] <williewillus> that might be a vanilla issue

L1931[14:48:04] <Flashfire> Or that

L1932[14:48:09] <Flashfire> Hardcoding maybe?

L1933[14:48:20] <williewillus> in 1.8.x thrashing pistons super fast with 1 tick pulses make them disappear sometimes

L1934[14:48:39] <diesieben07> Flashfire, i don't knwo WTF you are doing, but i just subscribed to LivingEvent.SpecialSpawn and did setSkeletonType(1). booya, all wither skeletons in the overworld.

L1935[14:48:52] <Flashfire> Oh, I see

L1936[14:49:01] <Flashfire> Thank you for that, at least I know that code works

L1937[14:50:14] <williewillus> PaleoCrafter: I just use BCV on ThermalExpansion and it just looks like any other mod's code tbh :p

L1938[14:50:28] <williewillus> there aren't even many ForgeDirection.UNKNOWNs in there, contrary to their bitching about it

L1939[14:50:35] <PaleoCrafter> haha

L1940[14:50:55] <PaleoCrafter> well, I can't come up with any other reason to make the mod closed source

L1941[14:51:18] <gigaherz> my guess is they don't want others to be able to profit from their efforts

L1942[14:51:20] <PaleoCrafter> it doesn't have any extraordinary feature other mods don't

L1943[14:51:26] <gigaherz> it's the usual reason for closing the source

L1944[14:51:35] <gigaherz> "I put the hours, it's all mine and no one else's"

L1945[14:51:46] <williewillus> well seeing as I basically saw all of it by a few clicks in BCV...

L1946[14:51:52] <williewillus> and all their other mods are open

L1947[14:51:55] <PaleoCrafter> could at least make it visible source, gigaherz :P

L1948[14:52:03] <gigaherz> yeah

L1949[14:52:12] <gigaherz> but hey... their paranoia, their choice.

L1950[14:52:15] <williewillus> I feel like it's only a problem when they refuse to update ;)

L1951[14:52:28] <williewillus> no one cares that thaumcraft is closed because its polished, high quality, and stays updated

L1952[14:52:30] <gigaherz> yeah Thaumcraft at least updated to 1.8

L1953[14:52:30] <gigaherz> ;P

L1954[14:53:12] <PaleoCrafter> I actually do care that it's closed because of those reasons :P

L1955[14:53:23] <PaleoCrafter> it would sure be great reference material :D

L1956[14:53:31] <williewillus> fry: are you every gonna update your frame mod to 1.8.x? :P

L1957[14:53:37] <VapourDrive> last time I heard Lemming comment on it, it was more of a "why make it open source?" because so much of their other stuff is open, so they already contribute to the whole "Global Resource of Mod Reference Code", but they don't have people just copying TE functionality

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L1959[14:53:39] <williewillus> I actulaly liked it

L1960[14:53:44] <Flashfire> I tried removing the biome code but I still get normal skeletons. D

L1961[14:54:04] <williewillus> that and RIM, I might port RIM to 1.8.x next if they haven't already

L1962[14:54:18] <diesieben07> Flashfire, show the whole event hanlder and where you registrer it.

L1963[14:54:33] <Flashfire> I put it in the main mod class actually

L1964[14:54:46] <Flashfire> I should probably make it its own handler

L1965[14:55:11] <fry> williewillus: maybe

L1966[14:55:19] <fry> if I ever get time :P

L1967[14:56:03] <Rushmead> 1.8.9 setRenderViewEntity WHATEVER breaks everything :(. Sad

L1968[14:58:00] <williewillus> how does it break everything? :p

L1969[14:58:04] <williewillus> it just doesn't render the player

L1970[14:58:12] <williewillus> which makes sense because in vanilla they use it for spectator mode

L1971[14:59:31] <Rushmead> Rawr.

L1972[14:59:51] <diesieben07> Rushmead, is it *your* entity that is set as the view entity?

L1973[14:59:57] <Rushmead> Yeah

L1974[15:00:19] <diesieben07> you can try overriding isPlayerSleeping (yes... stupid name) and returning true. i am not sure what side effects that will haev though

L1975[15:00:32] <diesieben07> but it should make the player render

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L1978[15:03:13] <williewillus> where is that method? 0.o

L1979[15:03:15] <Flashfire> Here is my code https://gist.github.com/Samuel-Harbord/e62ce17f5f79e685b827

L1980[15:03:28] <williewillus> oh ELB

L1981[15:04:09] <diesieben07> i don't see any spawn handlers there Flashfire

L1982[15:04:17] <diesieben07> williewillus, ctrl-alt-shift-n in IntelliJ :P

L1983[15:04:20] <diesieben07> for the future

L1984[15:04:27] <Flashfire> Whoops I pasted the wrong handler

L1985[15:04:43] <williewillus> TIL

L1986[15:04:55] <Flashfire> Updated https://gist.github.com/Samuel-Harbord/e62ce17f5f79e685b827

L1987[15:05:34] <diesieben07> and you get normal skeletons?!

L1988[15:05:47] <diesieben07> also wtf is that instanceof check

L1989[15:06:15] <Flashfire> I fixed that, that was from when I was allowing all handlers so I could find which one was best without restarting the client

L1990[15:06:30] <Flashfire> And yes I get normal skeletons

L1991[15:06:52] <diesieben07> are you sure? you should get withers holding bows with this

L1992[15:07:21] <Flashfire> They seem bright like normal but I will set them to have stone swords to see if I get wither in survivial

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L1994[15:07:44] <diesieben07> that's just... impossible man :D

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L1996[15:11:05] <Flashfire> Since I put the sword code in it's acting weird and allowing all entities through "e.entityLiving instanceof EntitySkeleton"

L1997[15:11:25] <diesieben07> o.O

L1998[15:12:01] <Flashfire> Not sure how but it crashed twice because of that

L1999[15:12:30] <Flashfire> Oh, duh, I accidentally used a hanging indent

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L2004[15:16:43] <Flashfire> Alright, the sword code isn't working either

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L2008[15:22:49] <Flashfire> It doesn't seem like it's applying any changes to event.entityLiving to the actual entity being spawned

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L2011[15:26:48] <gigaherz> hmf

L2012[15:26:53] <gigaherz> what do I add to my mod?

L2013[15:27:02] <gigaherz> I want to add some more features, but I have no idea what to do :/

L2014[15:27:47] <Flashfire> That rift mod you linked yesterday?

L2015[15:27:51] <gigaherz> yes http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/233780-ender-rift

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L2017[15:28:26] <gigaherz> well I also have this

L2018[15:28:26] <gigaherz> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/238659-packing-tape

L2019[15:28:26] <Flashfire> I'll tell you if I think of anything, I'm good with ideas

L2020[15:29:00] <gigaherz> hmm I'll port the packing tape mod to 1.8.9 meanwhile

L2021[15:29:42] <Flashfire> Great modelling job

L2022[15:30:02] <gigaherz> thanks

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L2024[15:32:26] <Flashfire> I have an idea for your packing tape mod

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L2026[15:32:46] <Flashfire> Labels for packages, possibly text that shows above it like a player name

L2027[15:32:56] <gigaherz> hmmm

L2028[15:33:00] <gigaherz> that could be done

L2029[15:33:03] <Flashfire> So you can keep track of what is in what package

L2030[15:33:04] <gigaherz> just a TESR that draws the text

L2031[15:33:17] <gigaherz> the item form already shows it in the tooltip

L2032[15:33:21] <Flashfire> Ah it does

L2033[15:33:28] <Flashfire> Probably not necessary then

L2034[15:33:30] <gigaherz> although I haven't got around to showing a "pretty name"

L2035[15:33:50] <Flashfire> If you're looking for something to do though it would be cool to have a "pretty name"

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L2037[15:34:21] <Flashfire> ie "tools", "redstone stuff", "food"

L2038[15:34:25] <gigaherz> hmmm question!

L2039[15:34:35] <gigaherz> my packing tape mod doesn't make use of any name that changed between 1.8 and 1.8.9

L2040[15:34:51] <gigaherz> think I can make it accept "1.8,1.8.9"? ;P

L2041[15:35:09] <gigaherz> I'll do that, built with the 1.8.9 mdk, and see if it still works in 1.8

L2042[15:35:18] <Flashfire> Can forge mods work with multiple versions?

L2043[15:35:28] <gigaherz> yes, if they don't use changed mappings

L2044[15:35:35] <Flashfire> Oh I see

L2045[15:35:39] <gigaherz> if the low-level srg names changed, it won't work anymore

L2046[15:35:46] <gigaherz> but they try very hard to avoid that

L2047[15:35:49] <Flashfire> Good to know

L2048[15:37:13] <gigaherz> one issue I have with this mod

L2049[15:37:17] <gigaherz> (packing tape)

L2050[15:37:28] <gigaherz> is that I make use of the FACING blockstate property

L2051[15:37:36] <gigaherz> to place the block facing the player

L2052[15:37:45] <Flashfire> Why does it need to face the player?

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L2054[15:37:46] <gigaherz> but I know of multiple mods that use a TileEntity to store the facing

L2055[15:37:53] <gigaherz> it doesn't need to

L2056[15:37:55] <gigaherz> it's for convenience

L2057[15:37:58] <Flashfire> Ah

L2058[15:38:01] <gigaherz> but because mods store the rotation in the TE

L2059[15:38:10] <gigaherz> and use getActualState to return the real facing

L2060[15:38:12] <gigaherz> it doesn't work well

L2061[15:38:20] <gigaherz> hmmm

L2062[15:38:22] <gigaherz> oh I know

L2063[15:38:22] <Flashfire> I didn't know that, I always just use facing

L2064[15:38:39] <gigaherz> I'll use getActualState() multiple times, while using rotateBlock to change the direction

L2065[15:38:47] <gigaherz> until it works ;P

L2066[15:38:56] <gigaherz> hmmm did rotateBlock exist in 1.8?

L2067[15:39:06] <Flashfire> What's the disadvantage of using metadata?

L2068[15:39:19] <gigaherz> they can't have 16 sub-blocks in the same id

L2069[15:39:20] <Thutmose> fairly certain rotate block has been around for a while now

L2070[15:39:31] <gigaherz> Thutmose: I didn't learn of it until a few weeks ago ;P

L2071[15:39:38] <Flashfire> Ah I see, didn't know you had others

L2072[15:39:45] <gigaherz> I do not

L2073[15:39:49] <gigaherz> the contained blocks may

L2074[15:40:06] <gigaherz> I don't have a facing, but the contained block may have one

L2075[15:40:12] <Flashfire> Oh you're storing the properties of contained blocks inside the block?

L2076[15:40:17] <gigaherz> of course!

L2077[15:40:29] <gigaherz> well, the metadata number, use getStateFromMeta ;P

L2078[15:40:33] <gigaherz> I use*

L2079[15:40:42] <Flashfire> I would think to use nbt on the te

L2080[15:42:16] <Flashfire> You obviously know what you're doing though so there's probably a disadvantage to that

L2081[15:45:07] <ThePsionic> http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/caravanpalace/bambous.html

L2082[15:45:09] <ThePsionic> fantastic

L2083[15:46:17] <gigaherz> meh that won't work

L2084[15:46:39] <gigaherz> rotateBlock doesn't just return a blockstate, it changes the world, and that seems wrong

L2085[15:47:04] <gigaherz> if there was some "setBlockFacing()" along with it :/

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L2090[15:57:34] <gigaherz> Flashfire: there

L2091[15:57:34] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2016-01-04_22.57.04.png

L2092[15:57:40] <gigaherz> detailed contents ;P

L2093[15:58:31] <gigaherz> I literally made it query the tooltip for the contents as if they were an ItemStack, and then added some spaces for indentation ;p

L2094[15:59:03] <Flashfire> Awesome

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L2104[16:05:24] <gigaherz_d> okay... time to test

L2105[16:05:37] <gigaherz_d> loading the 1.8 profile with the mod in it

L2106[16:05:41] <Rushmead> diesieben07: btw that didnt seem to work...

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L2154[16:05:53] <gigaherz_d> yay boots

L2155[16:05:58] <gigaherz_d> let's see if it works...

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L2158[16:06:35] <gigaherz_d> okay the item is there...

L2159[16:06:54] <gigaherz_d> :3

L2160[16:06:59] <gigaherz_d> Contains: Warded Jar

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L2176[16:10:36] <SatanicSanta> So is Item#getIcon(ItemStack, int, EntityPlayer, ItemStack, int) only called for the in-hand version? It doesn't seem to be effecting the item on the hotbar.

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L2196[16:18:58] <ThePsionic> http://i.imgur.com/vx3d0GY.png

L2197[16:19:02] <ThePsionic> current mood

L2198[16:20:03] <LexManos> SatanicSanta, Considering the last int is 'usage' its ONLY for when the item is actually being used

L2199[16:20:14] <SatanicSanta> alright then.

L2200[16:21:31] <SatanicSanta> If only there was Item#getIcon(ItemStack, int, EntityPlayer)

L2201[16:21:49] <SatanicSanta> Although I guess I could just get the player through Minecraft.getMinecraft().thePlayer

L2202[16:22:01] <SatanicSanta> since getIcon logically would only be on the client, yes?

L2203[16:22:12] <LexManos> in all honesty

L2204[16:22:17] <LexManos> those method sshould probably be removed

L2205[16:22:23] <LexManos> in favor of the model system

L2206[16:22:28] <LexManos> fry, poke about dat

L2207[16:23:08] <diesieben07> there is actually just one left: getModel(ItemStack stack, EntityPlayer player, int useRemaining)

L2208[16:24:17] <fry> yup, and I thought about using a smart model for that too

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L2210[16:24:51] <diesieben07> would need a new type though, for the player param

L2211[16:24:58] <fry> yup

L2212[16:25:20] <LexManos> Ah then yes that works.

L2213[16:25:41] <LexManos> Smart model wouldnt mimic the vanilal functionlaity to well and require people to do extra work.

L2214[16:25:43] <LexManos> SO meh

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L2216[16:26:13] <SatanicSanta> I don't really know much about 1.8: Why would you replace icons with models entirely? I thought MC only did that for actual modeled/3d rendered blocks and items. So things like clocks and compasses wouldnt have models, right?

L2217[16:26:33] <fry> no, every item is a model

L2218[16:26:43] <SatanicSanta> huh.

L2219[16:26:45] <gigaherz_d> SatanicSanta: 1.8 items are all 3d models

L2220[16:26:48] <gigaherz_d> even when seen "flat"

L2221[16:26:54] <fry> so is every block (except a couple of TESR exceptions)

L2222[16:26:56] <gigaherz_d> they still have the edge and backface

L2223[16:27:07] <LatvianModder> Yeah, "fast graphics" item is still 3d

L2224[16:27:09] <gigaherz_d> like when you hold them in the hand

L2225[16:27:21] <LexManos> about that, did you ever do anything about culling faces in inventory?

L2226[16:27:31] <gigaherz_d> they just don't make a difference between world and inventory anymore

L2227[16:27:46] <LexManos> Yup, EVERYTHING is a model

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L2229[16:28:00] <fry> issue is still open, so no :P

L2230[16:28:29] <SatanicSanta> Yep, getIcon(ItemStack, int) and calling getMinecraft.thePlayer worked perfectly :D

L2231[16:28:32] <LexManos> im not reading issues until you and cpw tell me I can do a RB./

L2232[16:28:38] <SatanicSanta> Now I just gotta figure out why this icon overlay is rendering behind the main icon...

L2233[16:29:57] <LatvianModder> Because its shy and is hiding, duuh

L2234[16:30:35] <SatanicSanta> LatvianModder: It's not very good at hiding given the fact that it's entire being is based around being bigger... http://puu.sh/mjJKQ/394f22854f.png

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L2237[16:31:55] <LatvianModder> What is that? A drill or smth?

L2238[16:31:59] <SatanicSanta> Yes

L2239[16:32:17] <SatanicSanta> Steam Drill. Currently making them upgradable, and the upgrade behind it is the big drill

L2240[16:32:30] <LatvianModder> You know you did good textures when someone guesses with first time from large closeup :D

L2241[16:32:51] <SatanicSanta> Oh, that was flaxbeard I believe.

L2242[16:32:57] <LatvianModder> Er.. From closeup? That doesnt sound right...

L2243[16:33:10] <gigaherz> "from close up"

L2244[16:33:16] <gigaherz> with a space, two words ;P

L2245[16:33:27] <gigaherz> well

L2246[16:33:29] <SatanicSanta> could also say "from a closeup"

L2247[16:33:29] <PaleoCrafter> why are you even still modding for 1.7, SatanicSanta?

L2248[16:33:29] <gigaherz> hmm

L2249[16:33:35] <gigaherz> yeah

L2250[16:33:50] <SatanicSanta> Many reasons

L2251[16:34:20] <ThePsionic> Lemme hear them

L2252[16:34:22] <gigaherz> PaleoCrafter: isn't the reason always the same? "I want my mod to useit on a 1.7.10 modpack" ;P

L2253[16:34:26] <ThePsionic> I want to know this

L2254[16:34:36] <PaleoCrafter> that ain't a reason, gigaherz, and you know it

L2255[16:34:43] <gigaherz> no but it's what people say ;P

L2256[16:34:44] <SatanicSanta> 1. I don't have the time to port all of this code to 1.8. 2. There's a lot of mods that we want to have compat with that still use 1.7. 3. It's very incomplete, and porting to 1.8 would take away dev time for things that I think actually matter.

L2257[16:35:26] <SatanicSanta> Oh, also the villager registry doesn't exist in 1.8 yet iirc.

L2258[16:35:27] <LatvianModder> And, how many of the big mods are in 1.8?

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L2260[16:35:35] <LatvianModder> Are CoFH mods there yet?

L2261[16:35:39] <SatanicSanta> nope

L2262[16:35:41] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: cofh doesn't plan on updating

L2263[16:35:47] <gigaherz> Thaumcraft 5 is there

L2264[16:35:49] <ThePsionic> Because they're poops

L2265[16:35:50] <LatvianModder> Shame

L2266[16:35:50] <gigaherz> ProjectE is there

L2267[16:35:59] <gigaherz> Botania is being ported by willieaway

L2268[16:36:01] <LatvianModder> Can I take over CoFH? :P

L2269[16:36:02] <SatanicSanta> blood magic is not it appears

L2270[16:36:08] <ThePsionic> @/all get your shit together

L2271[16:36:10] <SatanicSanta> botania is only through a port

L2272[16:36:23] <gigaherz> Tinker's is being rewritten for 1.8

L2273[16:36:30] <LatvianModder> By ProjectE dev

L2274[16:36:36] <SatanicSanta> twilight forest is not.

L2275[16:36:41] <smbarbour> SatanicSanta: https://twitter.com/WayofTime/status/683422969335537664

L2276[16:36:42] <gigaherz> everyone's tired of TF though

L2277[16:36:47] <gigaherz> ;P

L2278[16:36:48] <ThePsionic> I'm rewriting WildyCraft for 1.8

L2279[16:36:53] <ThePsionic> So that's something

L2280[16:37:07] <gigaherz> WAILA is on 1.8

L2281[16:37:08] <gabizou> gigaherz i'm not tired of Twilightforest

L2282[16:37:15] <SatanicSanta> ^

L2283[16:37:18] <SatanicSanta> I <3 TF

L2284[16:37:23] <gigaherz> JEI and NEI are on 1.8

L2285[16:37:27] <SatanicSanta> and FSP adds a bunch of support for it.

L2286[16:37:30] <gigaherz> there's a couple minimaps

L2287[16:37:33] <gabizou> though, that isn't to say that there could be more content/biomes stuff in the dimension

L2288[16:37:39] <gigaherz> so really the biggest "hole"

L2289[16:37:41] <gigaherz> are tech mods

L2290[16:37:47] <LatvianModder> I dont really need ThermalExpansion. But I need ThermalFondation

L2291[16:37:48] <gigaherz> cofh, mekanism, IC2, BC

L2292[16:38:05] <gigaherz> there's alternatives in progress

L2293[16:38:27] <SatanicSanta> I don't really plan on updating Flaxbeard's Steam Power to 1.8 at any point in the near future.

L2294[16:38:30] <LatvianModder> We should stop making alternatives... #SaysFTBUDev

L2295[16:38:43] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: it's going to happen

L2296[16:38:51] <LatvianModder> :/

L2297[16:38:52] <gigaherz> ifa closed-source mod author doesn't want to update

L2298[16:38:53] <smbarbour> None of my mods are updated to 1.8 because they all use RF. There's an unofficial update via ProgressiveAutomation, but I have other CoFHLib dependent functions (that apparently are going to be replaced by Forge methods, but I haven't checked if they're in yet)

L2299[16:38:55] <gigaherz> they'll be left behind.

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L2301[16:39:00] <SatanicSanta> GregTech is also not on 1.8, obviously.

L2302[16:39:29] <SatanicSanta> gigaherz: Many of the mods you listed are not closed source.

L2303[16:39:32] <LatvianModder> smbarbour: your mods can use RF in 1.8 too... The api doesnt change much, does it?

L2304[16:39:48] <gigaherz> there's an unofficial port

L2305[16:39:52] <gigaherz> by the author of Progressive Automation

L2306[16:40:01] <gigaherz> everyone I know who has 1.8+ mods with RF use that

L2307[16:40:03] <gigaherz> me included.

L2308[16:40:18] <LatvianModder> Whats the new system name?

L2309[16:40:21] <smbarbour> Yeah, it's really just the other functions (for inventory stuff) that I'm mainly relying on from CoFHLib.

L2310[16:40:25] <gigaherz> unless cofh appears with an official implementation

L2311[16:40:26] <gigaherz> https://github.com/Vanhal/ProgressiveAutomation/tree/1.8/src/main/java/cofh/api

L2312[16:40:30] <gigaherz> this is the de-facto standard in 1.8

L2313[16:41:14] <gigaherz> smbarbour: if it's anything like the RF api

L2314[16:41:24] <gigaherz> it's just a matter of going around replacing all ForgeDirection with EnumFacing

L2315[16:41:31] <gigaherz> and all int x,y,z triplets with BlockPos

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L2317[16:41:45] <LatvianModder> Thr biggest change probably was ForgeDirection > EnumFacing in APIs

L2318[16:41:58] <gigaherz> nah the biggest change would be any api that uses metadata values

L2319[16:42:08] <gigaherz> updating "Block, int" to IBlockState

L2320[16:42:10] <LatvianModder> Booo to those apis

L2321[16:42:35] <LatvianModder> I like BlockPos though

L2322[16:42:43] <gigaherz> I'd like it more if Java did valuetypes ;P

L2323[16:42:59] <gigaherz> as it is now, there's like 3 million BlockPos created per second, or was it per frame?

L2324[16:42:59] <LatvianModder> Like Pos3I or smth?

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L2326[16:43:13] <LatvianModder> Probably second

L2327[16:43:19] <gigaherz> no I mean, classes that don't get stored in the heap, but are passed arron by value in the stack

L2328[16:43:30] <gigaherz> around*

L2329[16:43:32] <smbarbour> The main thing is that the inventory functions are so commonly needed, I'm willing to wait for Forge to have them rather than invent a new wheel for myself.

L2330[16:43:43] <gigaherz> smbarbour: what are the inventory functions?

L2331[16:43:46] <diesieben07> basically BlockPos would be CODED liek it is today but behave internally like int, int, int

L2332[16:44:02] <gigaherz> I never looked at that part of the cofh api

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L2334[16:44:19] <smbarbour> Basic things like checking to see if items can be inserted and adding them to existing stacks where appropriate.

L2335[16:44:25] <gigaherz> oh

L2336[16:44:27] <gigaherz> I have that on my mod

L2337[16:44:30] <gigaherz> my own api for it

L2338[16:44:46] <gigaherz> well, sorta

L2339[16:44:55] <LatvianModder> I have a ton of util/api classes in my FTBLib

L2340[16:44:56] <smbarbour> Things so stupidly common that there should be a common set of functions to do it.

L2341[16:45:35] <gigaherz> my api replaces IInventory with a new interface that has pushStack, pullStack, and extractStack, removing the need for pipes to care about slots

L2342[16:45:48] <gigaherz> it's not meant for managing the internal inventory

L2343[16:46:05] <gigaherz> I do have a wrapper, but it's not full-featured since I didn't use it yet

L2344[16:46:34] <gigaherz> --> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/api/automation

L2345[16:50:12] <smbarbour> This is what I'm waiting on: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/pull/2241

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L2347[16:52:19] <gigaherz> heh

L2348[16:52:26] <gigaherz> that proposal seems unfit for my needs ;P

L2349[16:52:58] <gigaherz> since the my main interest was to remove the concept of slots from the automation interface

L2350[16:53:19] <gigaherz> still better than the vanilla interfaces

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L2353[16:55:48] <gigaherz> that's why the interface I designed looks like this: https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/api/automation/IInventoryAutomation.java

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L2356[16:56:45] <Temportalist> MoxieGrrl: !

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L2367[17:02:38] <LexManos> fry just sety your default compielr to J6 u.u https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/commit/4732acc1c4f2e8a21c33ed8a677017473f907554

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L2370[17:07:49] <fry> I did

L2371[17:08:15] <fry> but every time I run setupForge it sets the project-specific one, and defaults it to 8

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L2378[17:20:04] <SatanicSanta> Alright, I'm officially stuck on this. I cannot figure out how to get an icon to render OVER another icon, rather than behind it. https://beta.paste.ee/p/KYKlv I've looked at like a million different examples of this type of functionality, and it should work.

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L2380[17:22:33] <SatanicSanta> I suspect it's line 33

L2381[17:22:52] <SatanicSanta> But I honestly have no idea. I guess I'll add a println before that line.

L2382[17:23:19] <LexManos> well then delete java 8')

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L2392[17:36:11] <SatanicSanta> Well, rendering a transparent icon as the fallback seemed to do the trick :)

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L2395[17:38:39] <killjoy> I found this test. http://git.io/vuWOe

L2396[17:39:12] <Matthew> 10/10

L2397[17:39:30] <killjoy> 1+1=fish

L2398[17:41:07] <Temportalist> killjoy: wtf? haha XD

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L2400[17:45:34] <LexManos> Reminds me of a old thing I did In school.

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L2402[17:46:29] <LexManos> Got bored, so started doing math replacing all numbers and functions with random names. Had the key on the back of the sheet. Was funny.

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L2408[17:57:17] <shadekiller666> wait... so DefaultVertexFormats.POSITION_TEX_COLOR_NORMAL breaks the obj loader, but if you swap the order in which the UV and COLOR elements are added it works fine?

L2409[17:57:32] <shadekiller666> wonder if thats also a problem with the b3d loader...

L2410[17:58:15] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, what happens if you try and use the vertex format from DefaultVertexFormats instead of your custom one?

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L2415[18:11:21] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: colors/normals come out wrong

L2416[18:11:42] <gigaherz> or well they did when I tried ;P

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L2418[18:12:49] <gigaherz> this linke shadekiller666: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/MC/2015-12-23-0613-12.mp4

L2419[18:12:56] <shadekiller666> thats very strange

L2420[18:12:58] <gigaherz> thisi s how it was supposed to look: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/MC/2015-12-23-0614-04.mp4

L2421[18:13:23] <gigaherz> the custom format in the file is exactly the same as the default one

L2422[18:13:29] <gigaherz> xcept wit hthe order changed

L2423[18:13:37] <shadekiller666> except that you swapped UV and COLOR

L2424[18:13:39] <shadekiller666> ya

L2425[18:14:45] <shadekiller666> ...

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L2429[18:32:30] <shadekiller666> !gm func_181720_d

L2430[18:32:55] <shadekiller666> !gm func_181719_f

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L2436[18:58:13] <gigaherz> hmf, curse is taking a while to review my upload

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L2446[19:10:51] <gudenau> Hello!

L2447[19:11:19] <gudenau> I am attempting to make an OBJ a block now, I managed to make the item render it; but the block is the missing object cube thing.

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L2450[19:12:23] <gudenau> 1.8.9 BTW

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L2452[19:12:42] <gigaherz> what does your blockstates file look like?

L2453[19:12:45] <gigaherz> (pastebin)

L2454[19:13:14] <gudenau> http://pastebin.com/NSxw9UVV

L2455[19:13:32] <gigaherz> errors in the log?

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L2457[19:14:43] <gudenau> The normal stack trace thing, the System.exit thing, missing variant: FNF .../base_machine.obj.json

L2458[19:14:55] <gudenau> [19:13:16] [Client thread/WARN] [FML]: Unable to load block model: 'gud_machines:block/base_machine.obj' for variant: 'gud_machine:base_machine#normal': java.io.FileNotFoundException: gud_machines:models/block/base_machine.obj.json

L2459[19:15:34] <gudenau> Oh, I broke the item rednerer. Yay.

L2460[19:17:04] <gigaherz> hmmm the obj loader isn't accepting that block

L2461[19:17:13] <gigaherz> but you said it worked for an item?

L2462[19:17:18] <gigaherz> or the item form of the same block?

L2463[19:18:01] <gudenau> It was working for the block as an item, until I broke it.

L2464[19:18:10] <gigaherz> is the filename still the same?

L2465[19:18:11] <gigaherz> if so

L2466[19:18:24] <gigaherz> did you change or remove the OBJLoader.instance.addDomain(modid) ?

L2467[19:18:37] <gudenau> Nah, the domain did not change.

L2468[19:18:50] <gigaherz> and if not, did you change the modid to have any non-lowercase character?

L2469[19:18:55] <gudenau> Nope.

L2470[19:19:07] <gudenau> gud_machine

L2471[19:19:37] <gudenau> assets\gud_machine\models\block\base_machine.obj is a thing aswell.

L2472[19:20:46] <gigaherz> uhh

L2473[19:20:51] <gigaherz> 'gud_machines:block/base_machine.obj'

L2474[19:20:55] <gigaherz> 'gud_machine:base_machine#normal'

L2475[19:20:59] <gigaherz> canyou see the typo? ;P

L2476[19:21:01] <gudenau> Oops.

L2477[19:22:15] <gudenau> Yah, that did it.

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L2479[19:25:47] <gudenau> Thanks.

L2480[19:26:05] <gigaherz> np

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L2485[19:46:35] <kashike> is there a way to determine if Forge/FML is running in a dev environment?

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L2487[19:48:38] <Lomeli12> Check if a method/field is using it's MCP name as opposed to it's SRG name.

L2488[19:49:26] <Kithio> Question for anyone willing to answer: What do you use to document/note any ideas or things you'd like to make for a mod / modpack. I'm mostly looking for a software or website I can use to write out things I need added over time.

L2489[19:49:29] <gigaherz> there's a thing somewhre that you can query

L2490[19:49:34] <gigaherz> but I have no idea which one it was XD

L2491[19:50:07] <gigaherz> Kithio: I generally go by memory ;P

L2492[19:50:18] <gigaherz> but just a random google docs document works fine

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L2494[19:50:46] <Kithio> I used to do that but well... After my memory took a very VERY massive hit with my latest ... "mishap" I decided to not go by memory anymore

L2495[19:50:47] <gigaherz> if you want some "task system" you can use the issue tracker at github to document feature requests and TODOs

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L2497[19:51:24] <gigaherz> (or bitbucket if you want a free private repo ;P)

L2498[19:51:41] <Kithio> I'd much rather not make a github or bitbucket project right now since I can't exactly remember my login information >~<... still working on getting my email back

L2499[19:52:02] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, what does the __ in this lambda end up doing? ((IReloadableResourceManager) rm).registerReloadListener(__ -> loadedModels.clear())

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L2503[19:54:10] <gigaherz> does nothing, it's just a dummy varname

L2504[19:54:25] <gigaherz> the method takes an input

L2505[19:54:31] <killjoy> Is there an easy way to convert a 1D list to a 2d array?

L2506[19:54:31] <gigaherz> so I had to give it an input param

L2507[19:54:40] <gigaherz> killjoy: Y*width + X

L2508[19:54:48] <shadekiller666> so it efectively just returns null?

L2509[19:54:55] <shadekiller666> passes null*

L2510[19:55:03] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: no

L2511[19:55:06] <gigaherz> I just ignore the contents

L2512[19:55:37] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/client/RenderingStuffs.java#L48

L2513[19:55:39] <shadekiller666> i'm trying to write this for forge :P needs to be java 6 compilable :P

L2514[19:55:40] <williewillus> ugh just finished a session of crypt of the necrodancer and I can't not use any of my WM keyboard shortcuts without feeling the constant need to tap them more times

L2515[19:55:41] <williewillus> in time

L2516[19:55:44] <gigaherz> this is the non-lambda version shadekiller666

L2517[19:55:48] <gigaherz> I backported ;P

L2518[19:57:40] <gigaherz> ah!

L2519[19:57:40] <gigaherz> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/238659-packing-tape

L2520[19:57:46] <gigaherz> it was reviewed :)

L2521[19:58:01] <shadekiller666> thanks

L2522[20:00:04] <williewillus> your 1.8.9 mod works on 1.8.0?

L2523[20:00:57] <gigaherz> yes

L2524[20:01:06] <gigaherz> it's simple enough that I didn't even need ITickable

L2525[20:01:33] <killjoy> Would this work? http://pastebin.com/LFhEW7Gp

L2526[20:03:12] <gigaherz> killjoy: I guess? but wouldn't it be easier to use a double-for?

L2527[20:03:32] <killjoy> I'm populating the array, not the list

L2528[20:03:46] <killjoy> also the array isn't set yet

L2529[20:03:56] <killjoy> and its size might change

L2530[20:06:13] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/98266ba0396674c95ff8

L2531[20:06:19] <gigaherz> I meant like this

L2532[20:07:17] <williewillus> where in the code are mcmeta files parsed?

L2533[20:07:30] <gigaherz> somewhere in fml XD

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L2535[20:09:17] <williewillus> well in vanilla probably

L2536[20:09:27] <gigaherz> wait mcmeta

L2537[20:09:32] <gigaherz> are the ones for texture animation?

L2538[20:10:33] <williewillus> yeah

L2539[20:10:39] <gigaherz> FallbackResourceManager.java line 103

L2540[20:10:45] <williewillus> also, why can't I search inside the vanilla source jar in IDEA?

L2541[20:10:49] <gigaherz> you can

L2542[20:10:52] <williewillus> every query gives me 0 results

L2543[20:11:04] <williewillus> and yes I included libraries

L2544[20:11:05] <gigaherz> Edit -> find -> find in path -> options -> custom -> Projects and Libraries

L2545[20:11:47] <killjoy> williewillus, did you decomp or dev?

L2546[20:11:52] <williewillus> i got it

L2547[20:11:56] <williewillus> I was searching the directory

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L2550[20:16:52] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, does the ReportedException thats thrown in RenderingStuffs.loadModel() crash the game?

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L2553[20:18:49] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: reported exceptions stop the game with the crash screen

L2554[20:19:02] <shadekiller666> ok

L2555[20:19:47] <gigaherz> (so yeah you may want to handle that more gracefully ;P)

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L2557[20:21:49] <shadekiller666> ya lol

L2558[20:22:49] <shadekiller666> why doesn't Attributes.DEFAULT_BAKED_FORMAT have a NORMAL element?

L2559[20:23:34] * gigaherz shrugs

L2560[20:23:39] <Kithio> Can you use spaces in Github Repo names?

L2561[20:23:49] <gigaherz> Kithio: I don't believe so

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L2563[20:24:13] <gigaherz> if you type "A B"

L2564[20:24:21] <Kithio> Hmm... Do you substitute it for anything? or do you just push it all into one word?

L2565[20:24:23] <gigaherz> it says "Your new repository will be created as A-B"

L2566[20:24:38] <Kithio> yeah I hate dashes I'd prefer it being a single piece of text then

L2567[20:24:42] <gigaherz> I just use TitleCase

L2568[20:24:46] <Kithio> but how would I handle the word "of" since it looks weird

L2569[20:24:48] <Kithio> like

L2570[20:24:54] <gigaherz> just capitalize

L2571[20:25:01] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower

L2572[20:25:04] <gigaherz> I did.

L2573[20:25:15] <Kithio> Alright... I'll just do that instead

L2574[20:25:58] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, you know whats funny, DefaultVertexFormats.ITEM actually has all 5 elements in the correct order :P

L2575[20:26:10] <gigaherz> although I also used dashes

L2576[20:26:10] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift

L2577[20:26:14] <Kithio> and now comes the primary question... What License should I put it at? It's going to be open source

L2578[20:26:24] <Kithio> GNU?

L2579[20:26:38] <gigaherz> depends on how much you care

L2580[20:26:53] <Kithio> Hmm...

L2581[20:26:56] <gigaherz> I mean

L2582[20:27:05] <Kithio> I have read all the licenses available once

L2583[20:27:06] <gigaherz> so you want others to be able to use your code in closed-source projects?

L2584[20:27:12] <gigaherz> do*

L2585[20:27:23] <Lomeli12> Anyone know a nice way of hiding layers in an item model? I have a model with 3 layers and only want the 3 layer's quads to be shown if the item has a certain NBT tag.

L2586[20:27:28] <gigaherz> or do you prefer them to use the same license as you?

L2587[20:27:32] <Kithio> Yeah no I'd rather making sure the mod is always open source. but I don't want people making complete copies of it

L2588[20:27:43] <gigaherz> okay so you want a copyleft

L2589[20:28:35] <gigaherz> GPL is one choice for that

L2590[20:28:42] <gigaherz> however, it won't prevent others from making full copies

L2591[20:29:01] <gigaherz> this is considered an unnecessary limitation and rejected by the FSF

L2592[20:29:05] <Kithio> what was the biggest different between v2 and v3 again? I read them like months ago... can't remember the changes though

L2593[20:29:16] <gigaherz> never managed to figure that out

L2594[20:29:29] <gigaherz> it has better protection in some areas

L2595[20:29:35] <gigaherz> while being a bit less draconian in others

L2596[20:29:38] <gigaherz> or something like that

L2597[20:30:00] <gigaherz> my suggestion would be

L2598[20:30:09] <gigaherz> make code GPLv3, and assets CC BY-SA 4.0

L2599[20:31:01] <Kithio> Alright thanks

L2600[20:36:45] <killjoy> 2d arrays are array[row][col] right?

L2601[20:36:59] <gigaherz> I never managed to figure that out

L2602[20:37:13] <gigaherz> well actually

L2603[20:37:20] <gigaherz> those are just arrays of arrays

L2604[20:37:25] <gigaherz> so technically it doesn't matter

L2605[20:37:57] <gigaherz> what I never figured out is C# multidimensional arrays, which are standalone objects accessed like [x,y]

L2606[20:38:24] <gigaherz> however I do like to picture memory the way I write text

L2607[20:38:38] <gigaherz> where the line index is more significant than the column index

L2608[20:38:51] <gigaherz> so I use array[y][x]

L2609[20:39:22] <killjoy> so array[vert][horz]?

L2610[20:39:45] <gigaherz> dependso n how you allocated it.

L2611[20:40:34] <gigaherz> new X[HEIGHT][] -> array[vertical][]

L2612[20:41:02] <killjoy> I'm trying to get a grid with 6 columns and variable rows

L2613[20:41:26] <killjoy> Bah, I'll just use a Table

L2614[20:42:25] <killjoy> Hm...

L2615[20:43:29] <gigaherz> ah then use a List<Object[]>? ;P

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L2618[20:44:23] <madcrazydrumma> How do i get a player on the server from a username?

L2619[20:44:38] <killjoy> Is the player online?

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L2621[20:45:48] <Lomeli12> look at the getPlayer method in CommandBase

L2622[20:46:22] <killjoy> MinecraftServer.getServer().getConfigurationManager().getPlayerByUsername(username)

L2623[20:47:46] <madcrazydrumma> Cheers killjoy

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L2629[21:08:30] <Ri5ux> The custom model resource location registered on line 47 refuses to load its texture. It's all white. Can someone help me figure out why? https://github.com/Ri5ux/MinecraftTesting/blob/master/src/main/java/com/example/examplemod/ExampleMod.java#L47

L2630[21:09:21] <Ri5ux> The startup log says nothing significant, for the record.

L2631[21:09:43] <HassanS6000> shadekiller666, fry ^

L2632[21:09:56] <williewillus> show jsons

L2633[21:10:09] <Ri5ux> I mean that's a link to the repo...

L2634[21:10:45] <Ri5ux> But here's the blockstate json: https://github.com/Ri5ux/MinecraftTesting/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/examplemod/blockstates/m41a.json

L2635[21:11:23] <HassanS6000> Ri5ux, this is an OBJ model? Does the mtl load the correct texture? Insure this by opening the obj in the resources with a 3d modeling program and see if the texture loads. If not, fix the MTL reference

L2636[21:11:56] <williewillus> yeah you can only do the "inventory in blockstate json" trick if you use the forge json

L2637[21:12:17] <Ri5ux> Forge json?

L2638[21:12:21] <Kithio> Question: Would you recommend modding for 1.8 or 1.7? If memory serves, a few big modders said they would skip 1.8 and wait for 1.9?

L2639[21:12:32] <Kithio> thus their mods stays for 1.7

L2640[21:12:36] <williewillus> 1.8

L2641[21:12:44] <williewillus> nearly all claims of 1.8 being too hard are moot

L2642[21:12:59] <williewillus> and the gradual flow of mods is ever increasing in rate

L2643[21:13:02] <Ri5ux> 1.7 if you want things to be easy, 1.8 if you want an easy update to 1.9

L2644[21:13:06] <shadekiller666> Ri5ux, cuz your .obj file doesn't have any "usemtl" lines in it... so the obj loader assumed you wanted to use vertex coloring

L2645[21:13:18] <williewillus> Ri5ux: forge blockstate json format? haven't seen it before? 0.o

L2646[21:13:31] <williewillus> https://gist.github.com/RainWarrior/0618131f51b8d37b80a6

L2647[21:13:31] <shadekiller666> so it substituted a dynamic white texture instead

L2648[21:13:47] <williewillus> you want something like http://pastebin.com/kHHpx2iD

L2649[21:13:51] <Ri5ux> williewillus, I just started on 1.8.

L2650[21:13:52] <shadekiller666> ri5ux, theres only one texture for this item right?

L2651[21:14:00] <Ri5ux> shadekiller666 , yeah

L2652[21:14:14] <williewillus> yeah use the forge blockstate format, it will save you a LOT of pain, don't use the vanilla blockstate format

L2653[21:14:44] <Ri5ux> williewillus, Thanks, I'll look into that.

L2654[21:14:49] <williewillus> also, you may find this helpful: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c8uipS3BOe0BQKH6-kVFCQh8BaXOdRn8SFaAa7HmgWU/edit

L2655[21:15:06] <shadekiller666> ok, then between lines 24 and 25 of m41a.obj (right above the first line starting with "f"), add "usemtl Main"

L2656[21:15:41] <shadekiller666> after you've done that you should be fine

L2657[21:16:04] <Kithio> I couldn't care less about difficulty of making /{insert thing here}/ for the mod. I care more about the learning experience then anything else.

L2658[21:16:17] <shadekiller666> the obj loader will read the mtl and grab the texture and have it stitched into the TextureMap

L2659[21:17:26] <Ri5ux> Kithio, Then go with 1.8, you'd rather learn about something that is currently mainstream than something dead like 1.7

L2660[21:17:38] <Kithio> Also - About 1.9... Has anyone actually looked at the snapshots? I kind of feel they're adding a fair amount of really weird things I'd prefer not be there

L2661[21:17:42] <Ri5ux> Thanks shadekiller.

L2662[21:18:03] <williewillus> Kithio: without a doubt this Botania 1.8 port has taught me a TON about the internals of the rendering system

L2663[21:18:17] <williewillus> ehh the 1.9 new stuff can easily be disabled or removed

L2664[21:18:29] <williewillus> like the draw time is just an NBT tag, just listen to all crafting events and set the tag :p

L2665[21:19:30] <Kithio> Two things I don't like :

L2666[21:19:37] <Kithio> - Dual Wielding

L2667[21:19:40] <Kithio> - New Boats

L2668[21:20:33] <Ri5ux> For the record I hate the new entity physics.

L2669[21:23:17] <Kithio> I've played minecraft since... well very short time after the initial public release... Minecraft has changed a fair amount over time but 1.8 to 1.9 just adds some things that makes it feel a bit stranger then when they added the hunger bar initially :P

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L2671[21:32:36] <DrDisconsented> How up to date is the potion tutorial on the wiki?

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L2673[21:37:51] <williewillus> probably not very :p

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L2675[21:42:27] <killjoy> !gf GuiContainer.xSize 1.8

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L2677[21:43:18] <williewillus> but potions should not be difficult, if anything they might've gotten easier with hte potion registry

L2678[21:43:58] <DrDisconsented> I assume you'll create it as a static instance and feed that to the game registry

L2679[21:47:52] <Temportalist> Is there a way to get the current load phase, without being inside the fml event? (i.e. pre-init, init, post-init, running)

L2680[21:47:56] <Temportalist> (MC 1.8.8)

L2681[21:48:11] <DrDisconsented> Or not do that because the constructor already does >_>

L2682[21:49:36] <williewillus> DrDisconsented: you just construct it and it registers :p

L2683[21:49:58] <Lomeli12> Loader.instance().hasReachedState()

L2684[21:50:01] <williewillus> in 1.8+ don't give it an ID, it'll magically find and free potion ID's for you like it does with blocks/items

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L2687[21:51:13] <Lomeli12> or getLoaderState()

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L2691[21:52:09] <Lomeli12> example: if (Loader.instance().hasReachedState(LoaderState.PREINITIALIZATION)) { // do stuff}

L2692[21:52:38] <Lomeli12> also that's a dodgy comment placement on my part.

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L2699[21:57:15] <DrDisconsented> Yep I saw that williewillus

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L2701[22:00:48] <McRafty> new to Forge work, working on a 1.8.8-mod and see method/field/variable names I'd like to give 'real' names to (as opposed to the decompiler generated names). I don't see a mapping file in the (github) source - how do I submit method/field/variable name updates (...for the various versoins)?

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L2703[22:02:18] <tterrag> McRafty: MCPBot_Reborn

L2704[22:02:28] <tterrag> though if you are going to run a lot of commands use #mcpbot

L2705[22:02:31] <tterrag> and !help

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L2707[22:04:32] <bspkrs> McRafty, just fyi, you can only submit mappings for the current version (1.8.9)

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L2709[22:05:29] <McRafty> cool, thanks

L2710[22:08:40] <shadekiller666> dang it...

L2711[22:09:25] <shadekiller666> wanted to use a switch on a string then i realized forge wants to maintain java 6 compile... :/

L2712[22:10:10] <williewillus> off to if else land!

L2713[22:10:10] <bspkrs> just because forge only requires j6 doesn't mean you can't use j7+ features... it just means that your mod won't work for some people

L2714[22:10:27] <tterrag> he's not coding a mod, methinks

L2715[22:10:37] <tterrag> but also, there's no reason string switches can't compile to j6 bytecode

L2716[22:10:40] <tterrag> it's only syntax

L2717[22:11:40] <williewillus> yeah BTS it just generates some fancy int switch lookup table based on the hashcode of each string

L2718[22:13:06] <tterrag> yes

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L2720[22:15:09] <shadekiller666> string switches compile to 1.6?

L2721[22:15:30] <shadekiller666> bspkrs, i'm workin on the obj loader for forge atm :P

L2722[22:17:57] <tterrag> yes, why wouldn't they

L2723[22:20:51] <Temportalist> How does one use ITickable for a tile entity in 1.8.8?

L2724[22:21:02] <williewillus> implement it

L2725[22:21:06] <williewillus> and then implement update()

L2726[22:21:11] <williewillus> done :p

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L2728[22:21:49] <Temportalist> Does it auto register?

L2729[22:21:56] <williewillus> it doesn't register anything

L2730[22:22:10] <Temportalist> But it registers to the MC server.

L2731[22:22:13] <williewillus> when the game ticks it looks at every te, checks instanceof ITickable, and if so calls tick

L2732[22:22:17] <williewillus> ??

L2733[22:22:17] <Temportalist> okay, whatever. Ill just implement haha

L2734[22:22:27] <Temportalist> just making sure there is nothing extra

L2735[22:22:40] <gigaherz> Temportalist: it just works, don't worry how ;P

L2736[22:22:53] <gigaherz> ITickables get ticked, the rest do not.

L2737[22:22:57] <Temportalist> :P

L2738[22:24:02] <gigaherz> if mc/forge is smart, it will add ITickables and non-tickables in separate lists, and loop only through the tickable one ;P

L2739[22:24:18] <gigaherz> but yeah that's beside the point

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L2741[22:25:20] <williewillus> anyone ahve a forge dev env open rn?

L2742[22:25:23] <williewillus> on 1.8.9

L2743[22:25:25] <williewillus> might've found a bug

L2744[22:26:06] <williewillus> place a steve head down, is the texture...fucked :p

L2745[22:27:18] <shadekiller666> gigaherz, i was just thinking about that lol

L2746[22:27:44] <shadekiller666> williewillus, give me a second

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L2749[22:28:40] <gigaherz> williewillus: did you try without mods?

L2750[22:28:42] <gigaherz> it works here

L2751[22:29:07] <williewillus> uh oh then, botania dev env, it doesn't touch the skulls at all... build 1656

L2752[22:29:34] <gigaherz> 1677 here

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L2754[22:36:08] <williewillus> can someone look at here to the end of the calss and tell me what's wrong? Screenshot of incorrect case coming up https://github.com/williewillus/Botania/blob/jei/src/main/java/vazkii/botania/client/integration/jei/petalapothecary/PetalApothecaryRecipeCategory.java#L76

L2755[22:36:14] <williewillus> this is JEI integration btw

L2756[22:38:39] <williewillus> with four it works as expected, with five: https://i.gyazo.com/1193782b3f021f1f2ee3258cc77c07ce.png

L2757[22:38:45] <mezz> williewillus, https://github.com/mezz/JEIAddons/blob/1.8/src/main/java/mezz/jeiaddons/plugins/thaumcraft/infusion/InfusionRecipeCategory.java#L74-L103

L2758[22:40:08] <mezz> to get this http://i.imgur.com/kqg55ez.png

L2759[22:42:03] <williewillus> ah, my newY forgot to flip the - to +

L2760[22:42:13] <Temportalist> Whats JEI?

L2761[22:42:31] <mezz> Just Enough Items for 1.8+ http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/just-enough-items-jei

L2762[22:43:04] <Temportalist> What are plans in relation to NEI?

L2763[22:43:10] <williewillus> it's better than NEI :p

L2764[22:43:14] <Temportalist> haha

L2765[22:43:30] <Cazzar> [/opinion]

L2766[22:43:46] <williewillus> faster, simpler to integrate with, doesn't coremod hack to work

L2767[22:45:30] <tterrag> Cazzar: considering there *is* no NEI for 1.8.8, it is better objectively :P

L2768[22:46:42] <DrDisconsented> Looks like Potion.affectEntity and Potion.preformEffect are not actually used... So I need to make use of the onEntityUpdate event for the effect /?

L2769[22:47:39] <mezz> pretty sure they are used

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L2771[22:49:11] <williewillus> affectEntity is called in vanilla from splash potions only

L2772[22:49:39] <tterrag> probably named badly

L2773[22:49:42] <williewillus> performEffect is called every tick by PotionEffect.onUpdate(Entity)

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L2775[22:50:26] <DrDisconsented> Hmm okay, well neither of them are triggering breakpoints

L2776[22:52:29] <williewillus> woohoo the next BTM is going to be 1.8.9

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L2778[22:52:42] <tterrag> that was determined a while ago :p

L2779[22:53:08] <williewillus> just saw the tweet :p

L2780[22:53:27] <williewillus> but good that means I can run above 20 fps modded

L2781[22:55:11] <DrDisconsented> https://gist.github.com/disconsented/8ba0f0cb963e47c04c9a neither ln 38 or 43 are called. Ideas? (Applied via https://gist.github.com/disconsented/f24821de0071301516de#file-tilecrystal-java-L77)

L2782[22:58:04] <tterrag> 1.7 or 1.8?

L2783[22:58:13] <DrDisconsented> 1.8.9

L2784[22:58:51] <tterrag> diesieben07: return true from isReady

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L2786[22:59:03] <tterrag> default is false

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L2788[22:59:14] <tterrag> reading the code helps :P

L2789[22:59:27] <DrDisconsented> I missed that bit :P

L2790[23:00:19] <DrDisconsented> Yep that got it

L2791[23:00:20] <DrDisconsented> cheers

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L2801[23:04:32] <killjoy> So where is the equiv of mc.thePlayer on the server side? (integrated server)

L2802[23:04:35] <gigaherz> [05:52] (williewillus): woohoo the next BTM is going to be 1.8.9

L2803[23:04:35] <gigaherz> BTM?

L2804[23:04:43] <williewillus> BetterThanMinecon

L2805[23:04:58] <williewillus> killjoy: well it's multiplayer...you have many EntityPlayerMP instances

L2806[23:05:01] <gigaherz> killjoy: there's no "thePlayer" on the server

L2807[23:05:03] <gigaherz> XD

L2808[23:05:06] <killjoy> sigh

L2809[23:05:13] <killjoy> gotta get my name now

L2810[23:05:34] <williewillus> you can cast to integratedServer and acquire the host player, but having such a case is a very 1.2 thing to do :p

L2811[23:05:56] <gigaherz> MinecraftServer.getServer().worldServerForDimension(<dim>).playerEntities

L2812[23:06:13] <gigaherz> there can be multiple players in the integrated server: LAN mode

L2813[23:06:47] <gigaherz> not sure how the server does the tab list, though

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L2815[23:07:57] <killjoy> I'm just using mc.getIntegratedServer()

L2816[23:08:11] <killjoy> It's a client mod, so it shouldn't matter

L2817[23:08:59] <mezz> if it's a client mod then you can use Minecraft.getMinecraft().thePlayer

L2818[23:09:15] <gigaherz> that gives the lient entity though

L2819[23:09:17] <gigaherz> not the server copy

L2820[23:09:20] <gigaherz> client*

L2821[23:09:34] <mezz> so? I don't understand

L2822[23:10:04] <mezz> either it's a client mod or it's not, sounds like it's not if you care about the server

L2823[23:10:35] <gigaherz> oh I see your point

L2824[23:10:58] <mezz> killjoy, what are you doing? heh

L2825[23:11:13] <williewillus> you sound like you have logical and physical client mixed up :p which makes me want to finish my RTD on sides

L2826[23:11:17] <killjoy> interacting with the world/player in singleplayer

L2827[23:11:19] <williewillus> but meh too focused on botania :p

L2828[23:11:34] <killjoy> Just the inventory

L2829[23:11:51] <killjoy> If multiplayer, send packet or chat command

L2830[23:12:07] <williewillus> just do the MP integration for all cases

L2831[23:12:09] <mezz> you should send packets always, treat the server as if it's far away

L2832[23:12:14] <Drullkus> lol

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L2834[23:12:26] <williewillus> special casing the integrated server is EXACTLY how things were done...... in 1.2

L2835[23:12:59] <williewillus> sending a packet to the integrated server just sends it through a memory pipe anyway, not like you have that great of an overhead

L2836[23:13:06] <killjoy> But that would require the client to be configured correctly (enabling cheats)

L2837[23:13:17] <Drullkus> Uh

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L2839[23:13:18] <gigaherz> killjoy: I can't think of a better way than: MinecraftServer.getServer().worldServerForDimension(dim).getPlayerEntityByUUID(Minecraft.getMinecraft().thePlayer.getUniqueID())

L2840[23:13:18] <gigaherz> XD

L2841[23:13:19] <williewillus> you have control of that since it's an SP game

L2842[23:13:20] <Drullkus> LEt's not forget LAN

L2843[23:13:28] <tterrag> gigaherz: jesus christ no

L2844[23:13:29] <killjoy> I'm using the configuration manager

L2845[23:13:37] <gigaherz> tterrag: I know it's fugly

L2846[23:13:38] <tterrag> you're mixing threads doing that

L2847[23:13:41] <tterrag> DON'T do that

L2848[23:13:43] <williewillus> yup

L2849[23:13:54] <williewillus> use packets ALWAYS if you're going across threads

L2850[23:14:12] <gigaherz> well, yo ucan bypass the packet, and directly call world.addScheduledTask

L2851[23:14:18] <williewillus> it's still bad

L2852[23:14:19] <gigaherz> but it's still pointlessly ugly

L2853[23:14:37] <tterrag> how about just code mods like they will always be on both sides

L2854[23:14:43] <tterrag> unless you have a POINT to being one-sided

L2855[23:14:48] <gigaherz> actually, you'd still have to do "MinecraftServer.getServer().worldServerForDimension(dim)" from the client thread, which is unsafe on its own

L2856[23:15:01] <gigaherz> just... packet.

L2857[23:15:02] <williewillus> ????

L2858[23:15:12] <williewillus> why do you even need that again? :p

L2859[23:15:29] <gigaherz> williewillus: how else would you get the world object to add a scheduled task?

L2860[23:15:36] <williewillus> why even UUID anyway, why not just use the entity ID....

L2861[23:15:57] <gigaherz> true

L2862[23:16:11] <gigaherz> still though, it's just wrong ;p

L2863[23:16:14] <ollieread> Shit

L2864[23:16:33] <ollieread> Don't you hate estimating time for coding?

L2865[23:16:34] <williewillus> anyways, the point is: code your mods like you aren't in 1.2, pls

L2866[23:16:45] <gigaherz> ollieread: yes. I know I'm useless at it.

L2867[23:17:05] <ollieread> We've estimated to our end client that it will take 3 days for us to build this particular part of it

L2868[23:17:23] <ollieread> I couldn't sleep (5:17am here) so I just built it in the last 4 hours :/

L2869[23:17:52] <mezz> estimate to boss = double it and add 2 hours. estimate to client = triple boss estimate

L2870[23:18:20] <ollieread> We're like 2 months into this project, so I let my client (not the end client) come up with estimates and then I agree to

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L2873[23:19:04] <ollieread> It's why I charge by the day, so I give estimates, stressing the HUGE emphasis on 'estimate' and then they just pay for days actually worked

L2874[23:19:49] <ollieread> I've learnt that if I say "It'll take an hour or two, don't worry, I won't charge for this", it'll take 2 weeks

L2875[23:20:01] <mezz> heh

L2876[23:20:37] <ollieread> and now I'm going through PaleOff code

L2877[23:20:46] <ollieread> You can tell he prefers Scala :P

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L2879[23:24:06] <williewillus> mezz: is there any plan to be able to search tooltips (or at least registry name)? or was that on purpose for perforance

L2880[23:24:12] <williewillus> *excluded

L2881[23:24:45] <mezz> williewillus, yes I will include a "basic" tooltip search that caches the tooltips for performance

L2882[23:25:03] <mezz> some tooltips will be missing because they require player or time-specific information

L2883[23:25:15] <mezz> and I don't have a player to use when the game is starting up

L2884[23:25:27] <williewillus> cool, i just wanted the ability to search registry name which is useful when developing

L2885[23:25:37] <mezz> ah

L2886[23:25:43] <williewillus> though

L2887[23:25:45] <gigaherz> can't cache on demand? or scan the list asynchronously?

L2888[23:25:46] <williewillus> that only shows on f3+h

L2889[23:25:53] <williewillus> so idk if that's possible if you cache on startup

L2890[23:26:14] <mezz> I may just add a different search modifier for registry like #registryname

L2891[23:26:18] <gigaherz> hmm actually wouldn't you be able to just query as many items as fit in one page

L2892[23:26:34] <gigaherz> and save the data needed to continue scanning if the user presses the page buttons at the top?

L2893[23:26:50] <mezz> gigaherz, I need to search 1 million items. I don't want to do it more than once

L2894[23:27:06] <mezz> async means it is not ready when the player opens the gui to search

L2895[23:27:08] <gigaherz> there aren't 1 million items visible at once on screen though ;P

L2896[23:27:16] <williewillus> ?

L2897[23:27:17] <mezz> not visible, but you are searching all the items

L2898[23:27:22] <williewillus> yeah :p

L2899[23:27:22] <gigaherz> yes but what I mean is

L2900[23:27:25] <gigaherz> when the user types

L2901[23:27:49] <mezz> what you're describing is more like NEI which slows down dramatically on big packs

L2902[23:27:54] <gigaherz> start searching then, but stop searching as soon as you have a page's worth of data, or more than X ms have passed

L2903[23:28:04] <williewillus> that's what NEI does to an extent

L2904[23:28:09] <mezz> I show the number of pages of items

L2905[23:28:12] <williewillus> which makes it slow as shit :D

L2906[23:28:18] <gigaherz> hmm right

L2907[23:28:20] <gigaherz> the page count

L2908[23:28:24] <gigaherz> yea that kills that

L2909[23:28:41] <mezz> every tooltip except like.. the primal charm should be cacheable

L2910[23:29:51] <gigaherz> by the way I was asking earlier, is there some specific method to have an item/block not show up in the list at all?

L2911[23:30:31] <mezz> there's a blacklist from the api, and Item List Edit Mode which lets you hide things in-game and saves it to the config

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L2914[23:35:12] <gigaherz> I guess it was wishful thinking that there would be something that made thinks not show up without requiring use of any API or explicit interactions ;P

L2915[23:35:28] <gigaherz> things*

L2916[23:35:36] <mezz> give item list edit mode a try, you can hide all the facades in a couple clicks

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L2919[23:37:23] <gigaherz> I just want to have my multiblock structure block not be obtainable ;P

L2920[23:37:36] <williewillus> also mezz when hovering over an oredict recipe is it intended that the stack you hover over doesn't cycle like the others?

L2921[23:37:45] <mezz> yes

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L2923[23:38:13] <williewillus> kk

L2924[23:39:03] <mezz> gigaherz, blacklisting is just like this https://github.com/mezz/FlatColoredBlocks/blob/1.8.8/src/main/java/mod/flatcoloredblocks/integration/PluginJEI.java

L2925[23:39:16] <mezz> that's the only file you need

L2926[23:41:08] <gigaherz> I'll keep that open and look at it tomorrow

L2927[23:41:09] <gigaherz> ;P

L2928[23:42:13] <Temportalist> gigaherz: williewillus moxiegrrl__ (& anyone else interested in EsoTeriCraft): we now have chunks which spawn sun resistant mobs

L2929[23:42:26] <williewillus> EsoTeriCraft?

L2930[23:42:35] <Temportalist> 1.8.8 magic mod

L2931[23:42:49] <Temportalist> First module will focus on enhancing (new enchanting)

L2932[23:42:50] <Drullkus> oh hey Temportalist lol

L2933[23:42:56] <Temportalist> o/

L2934[23:43:08] <Temportalist> Leaving soon for sleeeeeppppzzzzz

L2935[23:43:16] <williewillus> cool

L2936[23:43:32] <Temportalist> williewillus: The Nexus: https://gyazo.com/1b09dca6736a800341958d7ddaedf678

L2937[23:43:47] <Temportalist> just need to get it textured now

L2938[23:43:47] <williewillus> is that a static model or tesr?

L2939[23:43:52] <Temportalist> static obj

L2940[23:43:54] <williewillus> nice

L2941[23:43:58] <Temportalist> loaded via blockstate

L2942[23:44:02] <williewillus> all the performances!

L2943[23:44:06] <Temportalist> si

L2944[23:44:25] <Temportalist> and it is *unbreakable* and is a world gen structure

L2945[23:44:38] <Temportalist> one will gen every about 5000 blocks

L2946[23:44:43] <Temportalist> for now

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