OCLogs: 2015-08-02.log

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L3[00:04:32] <osum4est> whats the difference between extending gui and guiscreen?

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L5[00:06:02] <Ri5ux> pig, Just wanted to let you know that I've been using tabula recently... and I'm completely fucking mind-blown. Nice job!

L6[00:06:18] <Ri5ux> Love the auto layout textures function.

L7[00:06:53] <killjoy> I think I just realized a bug in google inbox.

L8[00:07:10] <HassanS6000> okay..?

L9[00:07:25] <killjoy> getting new emails for a topic that is currently being read will be automatically marked as read.

L10[00:07:38] <killjoy> at least on the phone.

L11[00:07:59] <killjoy> just a heads up to any inbox users

L12[00:08:11] <pig> thanks Ri5ux

L13[00:08:19] <pig> someone PRed that auto layout textures function though heh

L14[00:08:26] <Ri5ux> Oh lol :P

L15[00:08:27] <pig> that one's not my doing

L16[00:08:33] <Ri5ux> Still amazing though

L17[00:09:08] <Ri5ux> One thing I cant seem to find though.... is there a way to adjust the dimensions of the texturemap?

L18[00:09:32] <pig> what do you mean?

L19[00:09:38] <tterrag> osum4est: I don't know any reasons to extend GUI

L20[00:09:58] <tterrag> GuiScreen has more utilities and nothing requires a Gui

L21[00:10:00] <Ri5ux> Like um.... My cubes don't fit on the texturemap for one model

L22[00:10:08] <Ri5ux> Too many, and they're too large.

L23[00:10:22] <pig> try edit project

L24[00:10:24] <pig> might be there

L25[00:10:42] <Ri5ux> Oh, yep, it's there. Thanks

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L28[00:19:09] * Mitchellbrine got a diamond in .2s. Am I gud @ mindcraf now?

L29[00:19:12] <Mitchellbrine> :P

L30[00:19:22] <Mitchellbrine> haha

L31[00:19:51] <dangranos> now do that with nether star, stack of it

L32[00:19:59] <Mitchellbrine> um

L33[00:20:05] <Mitchellbrine> nope

L34[00:20:06] <Mitchellbrine> xD

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L38[00:26:48] <killjoy> Mitchellbrine, macros onjoin: /give @p diamond

L39[00:27:02] <Mitchellbrine> glitchless

L40[00:27:23] <killjoy> That's not a glitch, it's a macro/cheat

L41[00:31:18] <Mitchellbrine> 7. Bonus Chests and cheats are not allowed.

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L45[00:45:36] <Manusoftar> im trying to handle a WorldEvent.Load but my listener doesn't seem to be reaching the event -> http://pastebin.com/uTm7bVf1

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L49[00:50:02] <Manusoftar> how should i do it??

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L53[00:51:56] <osum4est> how can i stop a gui from catching keyboard input?

L54[00:53:22] <osum4est> so i can move/utilize my keybindings while the gui is open?

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L57[00:57:34] <tterrag> osum4est: you'd have to manually pass your key input to your keybinds

L58[00:57:41] <tterrag> MC behavior is to block keybinds while a GUI is open

L59[00:57:45] <tterrag> probably best not to override that

L60[00:58:01] <tterrag> Manusoftar: how are you registering?

L61[00:58:18] <osum4est> alright. then is there a way to open a guiscreen as a hud, or something along the lines of that?

L62[01:01:07] <Manusoftar> Never mind, i was intending to catch it with @EventHandler on the main class, now i realized it has to be catched with @SubscribeEvent on the class registered on the MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS

L63[01:01:11] <Manusoftar> thanks anyway!

L64[01:03:22] <tterrag> osum4est: just render a hud with RenderOverlayEvent

L65[01:03:38] <tterrag> a HUD is a HUD, not a GUI

L66[01:06:30] <tterrag> osum4est: it's RenderGameOverlayEvent btw, sorry

L67[01:06:33] <tterrag> and there are a few variants

L68[01:06:37] <tterrag> you probably want .Post

L69[01:07:53] <osum4est> alright, thanks

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L74[01:20:09] <osum4est> using the rendergameoverlay event worked, but it binds my gui texture to the health/hunger bar and such. can i rebind the previous one? or should i draw in a different event?

L75[01:20:23] <tterrag> you need to rebind the previous

L76[01:20:29] <tterrag> just look at what vanilla binds and do that

L77[01:20:42] <osum4est> ok

L78[01:21:06] <tterrag> it's one of the flaws with the event, the vanilla code wasn't changed to assure its texture is bound

L79[01:21:33] <osum4est> ah, yes that would've been helpful

L80[01:22:14] <tterrag> actually it's even stranger because forge completely overrides the vanilla HUD

L81[01:23:21] <osum4est> well i rebound the texture to Gui.icons and i fixed it

L82[01:23:32] <tterrag> mhm

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L88[02:04:14] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20150802 mappings to Forge Maven.

L89[02:04:18] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20150802-1.8.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20150802" in build.gradle).

L90[02:04:28] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L98[02:39:01] <Elec0> 'evening.

L99[02:39:10] <Hubok> ´morning.

L100[02:39:24] <Elec0> Ah, timezones.

L101[02:39:46] <Hubok> There's no place like America/New_York

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L103[02:40:02] <Elec0> Why are you up at 3:40 in the morning?

L104[02:40:13] <Hubok> Trying to get Discourse and Docker to work

L105[02:40:21] <Hubok> And deploying Windows 10 to office PC's

L106[02:40:54] <Elec0> Fair enough. Sounds..exciting.

L107[02:41:30] <Hubok> More like infuriating

L108[02:42:01] <Elec0> Glad I'm not the only one getting annoyed at setting up stuff..

L109[02:42:29] <Hubok> And what're you doing?

L110[02:43:00] <Elec0> Trying to figure out how to get the cofhLib to go into /src/api instead of /src/main and not yell at me about packages

L111[02:44:27] <Hubok> Hah, if only I programmed at a level where I could ever figure that out

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L113[02:45:00] <Elec0> At this point it's mainly just me trying to figure out how to work eclipse correctly, lol.

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L117[03:04:28] <sham1|LOST> good morning peoples

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L119[03:04:50] <Elec0> Greetings

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L159[04:55:47] <Naiten> Back to 1.8 topic... Even if I convert my .obj models to b3d, I'll have to use TESR, right? ISBRH is completely gone?...

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L162[05:00:06] <PaleoCrafter> Naiten, you don't unless you have animations

L163[05:00:28] <PaleoCrafter> the B3D loader is creating normal baked models (basically like JSON, just not JSON)

L164[05:04:21] <VikeStep> are there any classes from minecraft which have the same name but are in different packages? (renamed via MCP)

L165[05:06:38] <Rallias> Anyone have a guide on how to setup vim for MCF dev/

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L167[05:08:16] <Ivorius> MineCraftForum dev?

L168[05:08:21] <Ivorius> Also > vim

L169[05:08:22] <Ivorius> lel

L170[05:08:27] <Rallias> Minecraft forge.

L171[05:08:45] <Rallias> Also yeah.

L172[05:08:46] <VikeStep> you can always use IdeaVim

L173[05:09:03] <VikeStep> It worked nicely for me when I was trying to learn bim

L174[05:09:03] <Rallias> I tried Idea and IdeaVim for a few months, I just can't like it.

L175[05:09:10] <VikeStep> vim*

L176[05:10:48] <PaleoCrafter> there's evim as well :P

L177[05:11:31] <PaleoCrafter> no, it wasn't evim

L178[05:11:48] <PaleoCrafter> ah, eclim

L179[05:12:40] <Rallias> I don't like idea, I don't like eclipse. I'd like to use vim, although I want the error detection shit to work.

L180[05:14:21] <Rallias> Oh. That's a vim plugin.

L181[05:16:04] <VikeStep> rallias, which error detection stuff? what about just gradle setupDecompWorkspace and run it using gradle runClient

L182[05:17:20] <Rallias> VikeStep: Using syntastic, it would try to tell me that Minecraft.whateveroranother() was not valid function.

L183[05:18:13] <VikeStep> does syntastic not support libraries? or is that what you don't know how to set up

L184[05:19:35] <Rallias> I suppose it does, but I can't find the libraries.

L185[05:21:01] <Ivorius> They're in the gradle caches

L186[05:21:04] <VikeStep> ^

L187[05:22:08] <dangranos> vim ftw

L188[05:22:20] <dangranos> though it's not IDE

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L192[05:25:19] <Naiten> Okay, thanks.

L193[05:25:37] <Rallias> dangranos: That's the beauty.

L194[05:26:11] <VikeStep> Rallias, you will find them in the modules-2/files-2.1 folder

L195[05:26:30] <VikeStep> however, it seems that the folder names aren't that consistent

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L200[05:36:12] <sham1> Emacs > vim *raises flameshield*

L201[05:36:30] * dangranos nukes sham1

L202[05:37:00] * Rallias sends oh-my-god particles at sham1

L203[05:37:15] <sham1> But it is better :(

L204[05:37:21] <Rallias> Lies.

L205[05:37:32] <Ivorius> Wow

L206[05:37:40] <Ivorius> Have I been transported to fucking 1995

L207[05:37:45] <Rallias> vim > *

L208[05:37:54] <dangranos> https://xkcd.com/378/

L209[05:38:01] <dangranos> Ivorius, worse

L210[05:38:03] <sham1> You're using IRC, so make it up yourself Ivorius

L211[05:38:21] <Ivorius> There is no system sufficiently prominent to replace IRC

L212[05:38:32] <Rallias> Yes there is.

L213[05:38:34] <Ivorius> So people still use it

L214[05:38:35] <Rallias> pornhub.com

L215[05:38:42] <Ivorius> u so funny

L216[05:39:36] <dangranos> heh

L217[05:39:45] <sham1> Oh dem butterflies

L218[05:39:50] <dangranos> in irc, it's always *insert year with massive flame wars*

L219[05:40:09] <dangranos> hmm

L220[05:40:15] <dangranos> $var or %var%?

L221[05:40:24] <sham1> $var

L222[05:40:37] <sham1> Because Windows' enviorment variables are not that good

L223[05:40:45] <Ivorius> $var never changes

L224[05:40:55] <sham1> Also they are no case sensitive

L225[05:41:44] <dangranos> Ivorius, glorious

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L227[05:45:15] <sham1> Real programmers is kinda like being a real scotsman

L228[05:45:20] <Rallias> Ivorius: my $var >= $main::var

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L240[06:33:27] <sham1> I think that I found a way to make my warp pipes work

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L254[07:55:56] <sham1> THEY WORK

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L260[08:01:26] <Shuetox> Is there any rescale option for blockmodels?

L261[08:03:40] <sham1> Getting something to work is so satisfying

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L265[08:14:58] <sham1> Someone please help me so I do not listen to Günther :C

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L267[08:16:09] <Shuetox> Listen to "Kärlekens Alla färjor - detektivbyrån" instead, copy and paste into youtube if you dont have åäö

L268[08:16:28] <sham1> I do in fact have öäå

L269[08:16:48] <sham1> But I will still copy that becayse I am not gonna write that

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L272[08:17:19] <sham1> And this sounds like Sims OST

L273[08:17:37] <Shuetox> oh so that is where i recognize it from? O_o

L274[08:17:46] <Shuetox> me and a friend had a long discussion about where we recognized it from

L275[08:18:04] <sham1> At least it sounds like it could be in a Sims game

L276[08:18:10] <sham1> On the buy meny specifically

L277[08:19:01] <sham1> Anyway, my warp pipes now work

L278[08:19:11] <Shuetox> \o/

L279[08:19:15] <Shuetox> For which mod?

L280[08:19:22] <sham1> My own

L281[08:19:26] <sham1> FluidCraft will be the name

L282[08:19:31] <Shuetox> Ah okai

L283[08:19:34] <sham1> At least it is the working title

L284[08:19:35] <Ivorius> So original

L285[08:19:53] <Ivorius> You need a name :P

L286[08:19:54] <sham1> I am nåt a creative person

L287[08:20:25] <Shuetox> ^most of my ideas dies before i can figure out a name

L288[08:20:55] <Shuetox> i've have several ideas that could fit into diffrent mods but i dont have something i could build an entire mod on :(

L289[08:20:58] <diesieben07> <InserNoun>Craft

L290[08:20:59] <diesieben07> done :)

L291[08:21:20] <sham1> yeh

L292[08:21:24] <Shuetox> GenericCraft

L293[08:21:39] <sham1> VanillaCraft

L294[08:21:46] <Shuetox> Minecraft

L295[08:21:47] <Shuetox> Oh wait

L296[08:21:56] <sham1> That is a good point

L297[08:22:18] <sham1> With how many mods we have in our grips, it is hard to appreachiate vanilla anymore

L298[08:22:29] <Shuetox> vanilla is totally ruined for me

L299[08:22:40] <Ivorius> Yeah, let's just stop modding...??

L300[08:22:49] <Ivorius> Your point is weird

L301[08:23:06] <Shuetox> never said we should stop modding?

L302[08:23:17] <sham1> We need a vanilla appreachiation day™

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L305[08:26:02] <Ivorius> I was talking to sham

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L307[08:26:21] <sham1> And he replied to you

L308[08:30:44] <sham1> I think I could optimize my warp pipes even further, but meh...

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L311[08:32:51] <Unh0ly_Tigg> so far for my class finder program... https://gist.github.com/Unh0lyTigg/97c1fce4aa86a24d1612 so many classes to map...

L312[08:34:00] <Shuetox> what do you need a class finder for?

L313[08:35:13] <Unh0ly_Tigg> I can run it against future versions of minecraft, and get basic class maps like what mcp has

L314[08:37:28] <gigaherz> I still love vanilla

L315[08:37:33] <gigaherz> specially watching OTHERS play

L316[08:37:33] <gigaherz> XD

L317[08:37:54] <gigaherz> the crazy things they build without making use of quarries and creative mode flight in survival ;P

L318[08:38:15] <Unh0ly_Tigg> also, since I don't know if mojang changes obf mappings between snapshot versions, it comes in handy for seeing what changed.

L319[08:38:19] <gigaherz> the crazy automation they come up without machines and power generators

L320[08:39:12] <gigaherz> Unh0ly_Tigg: obf names change every time they compile mc

L321[08:39:26] <gigaherz> (I think)

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L323[08:39:50] <gigaherz> I mean not necessarily randomly selected

L324[08:40:06] <gigaherz> but even if it's just alphabetically a,b,c...,aa,ab,...

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L326[08:40:20] <gigaherz> adding one class, or one method, already shifts everything else

L327[08:40:28] <Unh0ly_Tigg> gigaherz, 1.8.7 and 1.8.8 have the same mapping for the Minecraft class, but 1.8 and 1.8.7 don't.

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L329[08:41:00] <gigaherz> 1.8.1 to 1.8.2 added inner class info, and generics iirc

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L331[08:41:08] <gigaherz> so that may have shuffled EVERYTHING

L332[08:41:25] <gigaherz> no idea, lex is the one doing all the hardwork for us

L333[08:41:54] <sham1> And that is much appreachiated

L334[08:42:03] <Unh0ly_Tigg> what I don't get though, is that I'm using asm 5.0.4 for this, and the compiled form doesn't seem to have the generics available for the various nodes, but the source and javadoc do...

L335[08:42:35] <sham1> Well that is because they are erased

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L337[08:43:18] <Unh0ly_Tigg> but other libraries don't have this issue, and I didn't use to have this issue with asm

L338[08:43:32] <gigaherz> never used asm so /shrug

L339[08:43:45] <diesieben07> generics are just additional code attributes, the bytecode is not affected at all

L340[08:43:56] <sham1> I've used ASM, but not this kind of ASM so *shrug*

L341[08:43:56] <Unh0ly_Tigg> I wonder if lex would be interesting in someone like me (who lives nearby), coming over and helping doing updates (like 1.8 -> 1.8.8) for forge/fml

L342[08:44:02] <diesieben07> which is why the code runs exactly the same if you remove the generics stuff

L343[08:44:54] <Unh0ly_Tigg> though I really dislike the fact that it's Map<K,V>.get(Object), and not Map<K,V>.get(K)...

L344[08:45:15] <gigaherz> yeh the bytecode doesn't care if the object was meant to be List<Integer>, it still just sees a plain old List.

L345[08:45:43] <sham1> Oh that backwards compatibility

L346[08:45:59] <Unh0ly_Tigg> or "public <K1 extends K> V get(K1 key)" even, for Map...

L347[08:46:26] <sham1> Also, I am hungry and there is bacon being made outside ;_;

L348[08:46:43] <diesieben07> unh0ly there is a reason for that

L349[08:46:54] <Unh0ly_Tigg> care to explain that reason?

L350[08:46:59] <diesieben07> say you have a Map<?>

L351[08:47:05] <diesieben07> with your signature you cannot ever call get on that

L352[08:47:56] <Unh0ly_Tigg> well, if it's just "?" and not "? extends ...", shouldn't it treat ? as Object?

L353[08:48:03] <diesieben07> nope

L354[08:48:08] <diesieben07> ? is not Object, ? can be ANYTHING

L355[08:48:13] <diesieben07> it could be String, it could be Integer

L356[08:48:16] <Kobata> I swear that point comes up ever 2 months here

L357[08:48:29] <Unh0ly_Tigg> but Object is the 'root' class

L358[08:48:32] <diesieben07> and since get in your case takes something that is a subclass of whatever that ? is...

L359[08:48:34] <sham1> But isnt everything non-interface a subclass of Object

L360[08:48:37] <Kobata> ? in return signatures can be treated as Object, but in params it means 'nothing'

L361[08:48:44] <diesieben07> and you don't know what ? is you dont know what is valid to pass in

L362[08:48:54] <diesieben07> hence you cannot call it

L363[08:49:01] <diesieben07> since you dont know what types are valid

L364[08:49:27] <diesieben07> Map<?> could be a Map<String>

L365[08:49:41] <diesieben07> and if you allow Object to be passed in the map expects a String still, crash and burn

L366[08:50:00] <Kobata> It's probably easier to think about in terms of adding things for a collection

L367[08:50:24] <diesieben07> not really, since there you DO have the signature add(V value)

L368[08:50:42] <Kobata> Map<K,V>.set(K key, V value) -> Map<?,?>.set(someObject, someOtherObject)

L369[08:51:02] <diesieben07> ahh, yeah

L370[08:51:05] <Kobata> Since you don't know what the ?'s really are, you're breaking type safety (granted, not hard with generics)

L371[08:52:05] <Kobata> But since Object can be assigned to by anything*, some '? List<?>.getFirst()' can be assigned to an Object and treated as that without breaking anything

L372[08:52:33] <diesieben07> and along come value types and break everything :D

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L374[08:52:52] <sham1> But there are no value types (yet)

L375[08:53:06] <diesieben07> they are coming and they are having this exact problem :D

L376[08:53:28] <Unh0ly_Tigg> value types?

L377[08:53:32] <sham1> Yes

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L379[08:53:43] <diesieben07> "Codes like a class, works like an int"

L380[08:53:52] <diesieben07> BlockPos for example

L381[08:54:07] <Unh0ly_Tigg> so along similar lines of how lamdas work for methods?

L382[08:54:09] <PaleoCrafter> think structs :P

L383[08:54:10] <diesieben07> it would work exactly like it does now, but the performance is the same as just passing 3 ints around

L384[08:54:23] <sham1> It acting like int does not make sense if you cannot overload stuffs

L385[08:54:35] <sham1> overloading operators I mean

L386[08:54:49] <Unh0ly_Tigg> I want to be able to overload operators...

L387[08:54:58] <diesieben07> use a non-java language then :P

L388[08:55:00] <sham1> Because in a perfect world you could do blockpos + otherPos

L389[08:55:03] <sham1> Like scala

L390[08:55:10] <sham1> ;)

L391[08:55:22] <Unh0ly_Tigg> so that "list += e" compiles to the same as "list.add(e)"

L392[08:55:24] <gigaherz> that could be done, though

L393[08:55:27] <PaleoCrafter> Scala doesn't have operator overloarding though :P

L394[08:55:32] <sham1> meh

L395[08:55:34] <gigaherz> wihtout using crazy syntax

L396[08:55:35] <Ivorius> ahaha

L397[08:55:43] <gigaherz> jsut implement som INumeric that has .add and such ;P

L398[08:55:44] <sham1> You have method names that look like operators

L399[08:55:50] <Unh0ly_Tigg> groovy has operator overloading, iirc.

L400[08:56:09] <gigaherz> the compiler could simply translate "+" to INumeric<T>.add

L401[08:56:15] <sham1> And because you dont always need those parenthesis

L402[08:56:35] <sham1> wait no

L403[08:56:38] <PaleoCrafter> gigaherz, INumeric is a shit name :P

L404[08:56:38] <sham1> Wrong word

L405[08:56:39] <gigaherz> and ILogic<T>.and/.or

L406[08:56:48] <sham1> Numeric may be better

L407[08:56:54] <Unh0ly_Tigg> IAddable?

L408[08:56:55] <PaleoCrafter> strings are numeric? :P

L409[08:57:04] <Unh0ly_Tigg> Appendable!

L410[08:57:09] <diesieben07> no interfaces for this stuff, pleaaase

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L412[08:57:18] <gigaherz> anyhow

L413[08:57:29] <diesieben07> http://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/operator-overloading.html

L414[08:57:30] <gigaherz> appendable sounds horrible for actual numbers

L415[08:57:30] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, encoding everything in a specific interface is shit as well :P

L416[08:57:31] <gigaherz> XD

L417[08:58:26] <gigaherz> okay option 2

L418[08:59:03] <Unh0ly_Tigg> @Operator(Operators.PLUS_EQUALS) (or Operators.APPENDING_ADD)

L419[08:59:15] <gigaherz> public BlockPos operator+(BlockPos other)

L420[08:59:18] <gigaherz> like C#? ;P

L421[08:59:21] <sham1> or just have the += be encoded like $plus$eq

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L423[08:59:32] <gigaherz> C# doens't allow overloading +=

L424[08:59:39] <sham1> Well

L425[08:59:39] <gigaherz> it simply encodes as a = a+b

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L427[08:59:45] <PaleoCrafter> gigaherz, why the operator keyword though? :P

L428[08:59:49] <PaleoCrafter> it's totally useless :P

L429[08:59:53] <gigaherz> PaleoCrafter: to disambiguate

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L431[09:00:03] <PaleoCrafter> just allow infix notation and be done with it :P

L432[09:00:06] <gigaherz> also because C++ did it like that first

L433[09:00:07] <gigaherz> XD

L434[09:00:10] <gigaherz> okay then ...

L435[09:00:19] <gigaherz> public infix BP +(BP other) ?

L436[09:00:28] <PaleoCrafter> get rid of the fucking keywords

L437[09:00:39] <gigaherz> so you'd allow ALL methods to be infix?

L438[09:00:42] <PaleoCrafter> sure

L439[09:00:45] <gigaherz> ewh

L440[09:00:51] <sham1> def +(other: BlockPos)

L441[09:00:53] <sham1> there

L442[09:00:56] <gigaherz> ewh!

L443[09:01:02] <PaleoCrafter> allows for nice DSLs :P

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L445[09:01:20] <gigaherz> sham1: sorry but I dislike the design choices of scala's syntax

L446[09:01:20] <gigaherz> ;P

L447[09:01:30] * diesieben07 points to kotlin again

L448[09:01:32] <gigaherz> not that they are bad, I just don't like them XD

L449[09:01:44] <PaleoCrafter> Kotlin doesn't go far enough, diesieben07 :P

L450[09:01:46] <sham1> Well "public BlockPos +(BlockPos other)"

L451[09:01:49] <sham1> there

L452[09:01:56] <diesieben07> yes it does.

L453[09:02:36] <diesieben07> shit like foo \/- bar should not exist anywhere but in your crazy scala/haskell/whateverthefuck :P

L454[09:02:39] <sham1> That is sorta java'd version of that scala syntax if we ignore the fact that a method called + in scala gets reduced into $plus in bytecode

L455[09:02:49] <diesieben07> for the general Java programmer (which is what kotlin is aimed at) this is way enough

L456[09:03:31] <PaleoCrafter> you at least should have the option to go hardcore though :P

L457[09:03:45] <sham1> eh

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L459[09:03:48] <diesieben07> No :)

L460[09:03:51] <sham1> That is not always a good thing

L461[09:04:04] <diesieben07> the point of a language is also to guide you to good code

L462[09:04:32] <diesieben07> and if you want to go hardcode neither kotlin nor java are the language for you.

L463[09:04:44] <sham1> Even though scala's coding style is very nice and can produce very good code if you are good at it

L464[09:04:58] <diesieben07> and the advantage of Kotlins approach is that you can do myList[3] = hello on a JAVA list.

L465[09:05:04] <sham1> Like Java also can have very good code if you do not mind the boilderplate

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L479[09:59:09] <Wuppy> lol, if you ask for a job, don't do it on facebook

L480[09:59:25] <Wuppy> and especially don't leave in spelling mistakes or forget capital letters

L481[10:00:38] <Ivorius> In other news, don't forget to wear pants in public

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L485[10:06:16] <Wuppy> Ivorius, I just read exactly that

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L490[10:27:32] <Unh0ly_Tigg> so, lets say you have a Collection<String> in java 8, and you want to find the max length of a string (for padding purposes), calling ".stream().map(String::length).distinct().reduce(0, Math::max)" on said collection, will give you the max length... which I think is really cool.

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L492[10:28:25] <Unh0ly_Tigg> it doesn't even create any temp local variables in the code you write...

L493[10:29:30] <williewillus> erm, how do I get a player's gamemode?

L494[10:29:36] <williewillus> 1.8

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L496[10:30:45] <williewillus> nvm, got it

L497[10:30:54] <williewillus> player.itemInWorldManager.getGameType

L498[10:30:55] <PaleoCrafter> Unh0ly_Tigg, can't you just do stream().map(String::length).max(Integer::max)

L499[10:31:11] <Unh0ly_Tigg> meh

L500[10:31:14] <PaleoCrafter> :P

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L502[10:32:14] <Unh0ly_Tigg> PaleoCrafter, you do know that Integer.max just calls Math.max...

L503[10:32:33] <Unh0ly_Tigg> also, max returns an optional, reduce doesn't

L504[10:32:55] <PaleoCrafter> I don't know the Streams API very well :P

L505[10:33:05] <PaleoCrafter> I'd do strings.maxBy(_.length).length :P

L506[10:35:01] <Ivorius> Also, IntStream

L507[10:35:09] <Ivorius> You don't really want a Stream of Integer, do you?

L508[10:35:23] <Unh0ly_Tigg> going from a collection of strings...

L509[10:35:52] <Unh0ly_Tigg> didn't feel like doing the conversion of Stream<Integer> to IntStream

L510[10:36:01] <Ivorius> toIntStream

L511[10:36:19] <Unh0ly_Tigg> meh

L512[10:36:46] <Ivorius> I just wish primitives could be generics

L513[10:36:53] <Ivorius> Soon-erino-ish

L514[10:36:56] <Unh0ly_Tigg> autoboxing...

L515[10:37:00] <Ivorius> Ew

L516[10:37:06] <Ivorius> And no, it's not the same

L517[10:37:12] <tterrag|away> That's why we have trove

L518[10:37:18] <Ivorius> Trove is a hack

L519[10:37:21] <Unh0ly_Tigg> to each they're own then...

L520[10:37:26] <Ivorius> A fix for a problem we shouldn't have

L521[10:37:37] <tterrag|away> regardless

L522[10:37:48] <tterrag|away> It works as an interim solution

L523[10:38:04] <Unh0ly_Tigg> you feel like primitives should be available for generics, tell that to the people who make/maintain the language...

L524[10:39:29] <PaleoCrafter> Project Valhalla is a thing :P

L525[10:40:34] <diesieben07> and they actualy just made a major step forwards

L526[10:40:38] <Unh0ly_Tigg> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/valhalla/

L527[10:40:45] <diesieben07> List<any> is now a thing

L528[10:41:12] <Unh0ly_Tigg> If I click on the Generic Specialization link near the top, I get a 404...

L529[10:41:17] <PaleoCrafter> will any also be accessible outside of generics? :P

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L531[10:43:02] <diesieben07> hopefully...

L532[10:43:22] <diesieben07> although that doesnt make any sense really

L533[10:44:12] <PaleoCrafter> well, you can't do anything with it

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L535[10:44:52] <PaleoCrafter> but otherwise you also can't really retrieve anything from a List<any>, can you?

L536[10:45:18] <tterrag|away> Maybe as a dynamic variable type

L537[10:45:25] <diesieben07> mhmm true

L538[10:45:29] <tterrag|away> like lombok's val

L539[10:45:41] <diesieben07> not sure what you would do with it though...

L540[10:45:48] <diesieben07> like... you could get something out, now you have an "any"

L541[10:45:55] <diesieben07> what do you do with that? you cant pass it to anybody...

L542[10:46:01] <williewillus> i'm not sure "any" was the right keyword

L543[10:46:08] <williewillus> but that's still up for change

L544[10:46:13] <PaleoCrafter> tterrag|away, val is just type inference

L545[10:46:40] <tterrag|away> also, what's the difference between List <any> and List <?>

L546[10:46:53] <diesieben07> List<?> is old syntax for List<ref>

L547[10:47:00] <Unh0ly_Tigg> PaleoCrafter, http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~briangoetz/valhalla/specialization.html#opt-in that has info on the any keyword.

L548[10:47:04] <tterrag|away> ...what?

L549[10:47:07] <diesieben07> List<ref> cannot be List<int>, List<any> can

L550[10:47:14] <tterrag|away> oh

L551[10:47:18] <tterrag|away> I see

L552[10:47:23] <diesieben07> its for backwards compat ...

L553[10:47:39] <diesieben07> (because old code assumes everything is Object)

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L562[11:00:57] <AtomicStryker> hi. is there a known issue with world.getEntityByID on 1.8 clientside or something? i get a null result despite using a correct ID with an entity that definitely is created at that point

L563[11:02:03] <Ivorius> Threading issue?

L564[11:02:32] <AtomicStryker> threading how

L565[11:02:52] <diesieben07> yeah, if using packets in 1.8 you need to take this into account: http://mcforge.readthedocs.org/en/latest/networking/simpleimpl/

L566[11:02:58] <diesieben07> (see the warning section)

L567[11:03:29] <AtomicStryker> ok. what the hell. thanks

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L569[11:06:16] <AtomicStryker> so wait i dont actually have to "get" a thread listener i just have to use Minecraft.getMinecraft

L570[11:06:56] <diesieben07> yes, on the client

L571[11:06:59] <diesieben07> or on the server the WorldServer

L572[11:07:16] <diesieben07> its like a poor mans ExecutorService

L573[11:07:38] <AtomicStryker> hmm odd my existing code was using a static reference to Minecraft.thePlayer

L574[11:07:50] <AtomicStryker> that *should* have worked

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L576[11:08:22] <Kobata> I've seen that threading thing work fine ignoring it for a while, then cause all sorts of random havoc

L577[11:12:14] <AtomicStryker> im still getting a null return on the getEntityByID call

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L579[11:12:22] <diesieben07> show more of your code then.

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L581[11:14:33] <AtomicStryker> http://pastebin.com/9rR0phBN

L582[11:14:44] <AtomicStryker> that print to console says its the netty thread all right

L583[11:15:13] <diesieben07> where do you call that method? directly from your packet handler?

L584[11:15:20] <diesieben07> because thats what it looks like.

L585[11:15:53] <AtomicStryker> aye. so how do i get it to run on the thread if just referencing Minecraft.getMinecraft isnt it

L586[11:16:14] <diesieben07> Minecraft.getMinecraft.addScheduledTask(<myRunnable>)

L587[11:16:19] <tterrag|away> Minecraft is the ITreadListener

L588[11:16:24] <tterrag|away> ^^

L589[11:16:28] <diesieben07> will execute the runnable on the main thread

L590[11:17:01] <AtomicStryker> sweet jesus and this affects all packets? i have made ZERO adjustments to minions mod

L591[11:17:05] <AtomicStryker> how is that even working

L592[11:17:23] <AtomicStryker> wait

L593[11:17:28] <AtomicStryker> would using a proxy fix this

L594[11:17:32] <tterrag|away> You probably have some lurking race conditions

L595[11:17:33] <AtomicStryker> because all that is run through a proxy

L596[11:17:39] <diesieben07> a proxy?

L597[11:17:48] <diesieben07> @SidedProxy? network proxy?

L598[11:17:52] <AtomicStryker> yeah

L599[11:17:55] <Kobata> If you look at MC's packets they made the wierdest way of 'fixing' all their code

L600[11:17:57] <diesieben07> neither of those matters

L601[11:18:06] <diesieben07> packet handler is called on netty thread, period.

L602[11:18:20] <Kobata> It calls a function that checks the thread, if it's not the right one, queue up calling the same function that called it then throw an exception

L603[11:18:31] <AtomicStryker> hm so do i want a runnable or callable

L604[11:18:42] <diesieben07> runnable, you just want to run something

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L606[11:18:50] <diesieben07> callabe you want if you need to return a value

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L610[11:23:50] <AtomicStryker> ok, it works now, thanks

L611[11:23:53] <AtomicStryker> this is quite horrifying

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L614[11:34:02] <sham1> why6 does it horrify you

L615[11:36:37] <AtomicStryker> the fact i updated all of my mods and didnt know this

L616[11:36:57] <AtomicStryker> some of which use quite a lot of packets

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L618[11:39:47] <Ivorius> I wish that would happen to me

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L621[11:40:52] <gigaherz> Ivorius: what? updating mods?

L622[11:41:16] <Ivorius> Waking up to realize my mods are already updated

L623[11:41:30] <gigaherz> o_O

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L625[11:41:47] <gigaherz> I don't think that's how that sentence was meant to be read XD

L626[11:42:25] <AtomicStryker> are there any useful vanilla render types to use or do i have to do all of them myself

L627[11:42:39] <PaleoCrafter> render types aren't what they used to be :P

L628[11:42:50] <PaleoCrafter> but vanilla has some useful JSONs you can use as parents :P

L629[11:42:53] <Ivorius> Still, that's how I read it :P

L630[11:43:56] <gigaherz> AtomicStryker: as for json model bases, minecraft:block/cube, block/cube_all (one texture for all faces), and builtin/generated -- the essentials ;P

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L633[11:46:44] <AtomicStryker> does anyone know the difference between tallgrass and tall_grass

L634[11:46:51] <williewillus> (also pls use a "standard_item" model for item models and not respecify all the transforms in every. single. item. model. like mojang did)

L635[11:47:01] <williewillus> no idea why they chose not to use their own system 0.o

L636[11:47:22] <gigaherz> one would assume builtin/generated, which is the basis for the items, to already include the basic transforms

L637[11:47:23] <gigaherz> XD

L638[11:47:31] <PaleoCrafter> you don't have to specify any transforms with Forge :P

L639[11:47:40] <MattDahEpic> AtomicStryker, one is 1block tall tallgrass and the other is 2 block tall tallgrass

L640[11:47:43] <PaleoCrafter> but yeah, it's weird that they didn't add a default

L641[11:47:58] <williewillus> bleh I wrote my jsons before i knew forge format existed :p

L642[11:48:17] <gigaherz> so I started a local game of ARK

L643[11:48:26] <gigaherz> with values adjusted to remove most of the grindy gameplay

L644[11:48:39] <gigaherz> and it's quite a lot more enjoyable than playing on a public server

L645[11:48:39] <gigaherz> XD

L646[11:48:41] <PaleoCrafter> default transforms were one of the first things introduced (unrelated to the Forge blockstates) :P

L647[11:49:31] <williewillus> oops :p

L648[11:49:51] <williewillus> so you just specify nothing and it uses the "default" vanilla ones?

L649[11:50:00] <PaleoCrafter> yep

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L651[11:55:35] <williewillus> an item in my mod places blocks for the player but I want to make it compatible with protection plugins what exactly should i do or check for?

L652[11:55:47] <williewillus> the mechanisms to fire place events don't seem that friendly

L653[11:57:19] <diesieben07> if you do it inside onItemUse the placement event already fires for you.

L654[11:57:22] <AtomicStryker> use the forge block break event and tell anyone complaining to suck eggs and use that

L655[11:57:53] <Wuppy> does anyone know a great mouse for around 25 euros?

L656[11:58:07] <Wuppy> I'm thinking about getting the Trust GXT 25 and I'm looking for some alternatives

L657[11:58:22] <gigaherz> meh

L658[11:58:28] <gigaherz> I'm a fan of the logitech G500

L659[11:58:32] <gigaherz> but sadly it's not made anymore

L660[11:58:34] <diesieben07> anything by logitech

L661[11:58:53] <diesieben07> i had this one: http://www.logitech.com/de-de/product/corded-mouse-m500?crid=7 its a bit more expensive tho

L662[11:59:14] <AtomicStryker> logitech has REALLY gotten worse

L663[11:59:27] <Wuppy> I'd rather get something a bit cheaper than that diesieben

L664[11:59:30] <AtomicStryker> i used to say "any logi" but then i had a couple that really disappointed

L665[11:59:53] <AtomicStryker> of course, then i tried a roccat something and that was just as bad

L666[12:00:04] <MattDahEpic> !gm km.a

L667[12:00:20] <gigaherz> this one seems nice Wuppy: http://www.pccomponentes.com/aerocool_templarius_gladiator_gaming_mouse.html

L668[12:00:21] <diesieben07> performance MX by logitech, best mouse evar :P

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L671[12:00:32] <AtomicStryker> anyone willing to write some of these forge format jsons for me *bats eyelashes*

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L673[12:00:37] <gigaherz> this one, fancy: http://www.pccomponentes.com/genesis_g66_gaming_2000_dpi.html

L674[12:00:54] <diesieben07> these "gaming mice" always feel horrible to me

L675[12:00:57] <Wuppy> what about the m6900?

L676[12:01:02] <Wuppy> gigabyte

L677[12:01:28] <gigaherz> hmm seems ok

L678[12:01:29] <gigaherz> http://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte_m6800_raton_gaming_usb_1600_dpi.html

L679[12:01:30] <MattDahEpic> awwwww yis scored a 3 letter username

L680[12:01:33] <gigaherz> not bad price

L681[12:01:39] <PaleoCrafter> http://www.amazon.com/Sharkoon-Shark-Force-Gaming-000SKSFB/dp/B00L6HCXRE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1438534879&sr=1-1&keywords=shark+force this on'es pretty nice, imo

L682[12:01:50] <gigaherz> thign is, I really really love unlockable wheels

L683[12:01:53] <gigaherz> that can free-spin

L684[12:01:55] <gigaherz> and none of those have one ;P

L685[12:02:16] <diesieben07> paleo, that thing looks awful

L686[12:02:21] <Wuppy> that one sure does look... interesting PaleoCrafter

L687[12:02:30] <williewillus> diesieben07: even if it's for example a power item that does world.setBlockStates manually? Events are still done for me?

L688[12:02:31] <PaleoCrafter> meh, it does its job :P

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L690[12:02:43] <PaleoCrafter> and it was cheap :P

L691[12:02:46] <gigaherz> looks uncomfortable XD

L692[12:02:51] <gigaherz> it probably isn't

L693[12:02:53] <gigaherz> but it looks so

L694[12:02:54] <diesieben07> afaik yes, willie. all they patch is onItemUse in ItemStack

L695[12:02:59] <PaleoCrafter> it really isn't :P

L696[12:03:35] <PaleoCrafter> and look, it even is available in pink :P

L697[12:03:40] <Wuppy> must have

L698[12:06:00] <Kobata> williewillus: There's patches in most of the low-level state set functions that capture changes on demand

L699[12:06:21] <MattDahEpic> why does my world have a backup subfolder?

L700[12:06:25] <Kobata> So when you're in a function that has the place-capture enabled it will know about everything you do

L701[12:06:42] <PaleoCrafter> MattDahEpic, did you open it with missing blocks?

L702[12:07:02] <MattDahEpic> PaleoCrafter, its a 1.8 world moved to 1.9snap

L703[12:07:16] <PaleoCrafter> oh, hm

L704[12:07:30] <PaleoCrafter> vanilla 1.8?

L705[12:07:52] <MattDahEpic> yup

L706[12:08:00] <PaleoCrafter> then I have no clue :D

L707[12:08:01] <williewillus> anything in it? :p

L708[12:08:16] <MattDahEpic> a copy of the world as it was before the switch

L709[12:08:18] <PaleoCrafter> I only know that forge creates a backup whenever you open a world with missing blocks

L710[12:09:39] <Wuppy> is Genesis an acceptable mouse company?

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L713[12:21:35] <StephJ2Fan> any help with this error log? http://pastebin.com/DnqZ4JD3

L714[12:21:45] <StephJ2Fan> I swear it's telling me OpenGL is broke

L715[12:23:08] <MattDahEpic> StephJ2Fan, i see no rendering in there... its packets

L716[12:23:53] <StephJ2Fan> okay so is it a mod doing it, MattDahEpic?

L717[12:25:12] <MattDahEpic> its not telling me anything besides java.lang.NullPointerException: Ticking memory connection

L718[12:25:13] <MattDahEpic> at cpw.mods.fml.common.network.internal.FMLProxyPacket.func_148833_a(FMLProxyPacket.java:101)

L719[12:25:50] <MattDahEpic> StephJ2Fan, mc version?

L720[12:26:11] <heldplayer> Minecraft Version: 1.7.10

L721[12:26:16] <MattDahEpic> !gm func_148833_a 1.7.10

L722[12:26:31] <MattDahEpic> its processPacket

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L724[12:29:02] <StephJ2Fan> okay thanks for the help.

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L759[14:16:08] <Manusoftar> im facing this initialization error -> http://pastebin.com/LTEwXL2t wtf does it mean the AbstractMethodError???

L760[14:16:52] <Manusoftar> Im developing my mod on Eclipse and when i press play on Eclipse it works fine, but when i try to actually run it on the game itself it crashes!

L761[14:17:13] <Manusoftar> !gm func_71560_a

L762[14:17:44] <williewillus> what's tico's oredict name for slimeballs?

L763[14:18:14] <gigaherz> if it's not ballSlime, I'll be disappoint

L764[14:18:39] <gigaherz> (by which I did mean to imply I have no idea)

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L766[14:19:21] <williewillus> vanilla registers it as just "slimeball"

L767[14:19:26] <williewillus> vanilla forge

L768[14:19:38] <Manusoftar> guys help!

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L770[14:20:31] <diesieben07> Manusoftar, you MUST use gradlew build to build your mod.

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L772[14:20:46] <Manusoftar> uh?

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L774[14:20:59] <Manusoftar> i did export to jar from Eclipse... is that wrong??

L775[14:21:18] <williewillus> yes, it doesnt get reobfuscated

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L777[14:22:36] <Manusoftar> oh i see

L778[14:23:03] <Manusoftar> would it be enought to run a gradlew build or should i write any config files???

L779[14:23:40] <williewillus> it should be enough

L780[14:23:50] <williewillus> your jar will be in build/libs/

L781[14:24:08] <Manusoftar> ok im on it, thanks!

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L783[14:27:11] <Manusoftar> there should be a way to configure the gradlew build directly on Eclipse so you can build your mod withouth having to open a dos command and manually run the gradlew thing...

L784[14:28:01] <diesieben07> use a proper IDE and you can ;)

L785[14:28:13] <diesieben07> also cmd is NOT dos.

L786[14:30:47] <Lex_> you can with the gradle eclipse plugin {or any IDE with support for gradle}

L787[14:30:51] <Lex_> but either way

L788[14:30:53] <Lex_> this works

L789[14:33:16] <sham1> CMD is not DOS indeed, it just looks like the old dos' command prompt

L790[14:33:30] <gigaherz> well

L791[14:33:39] <gigaherz> really, command.com wasn't "dos" either

L792[14:33:49] <gigaherz> it was a dos program, yes, but it wasn't "dos" in the same sense bash isn't linux

L793[14:33:50] <gigaherz> XD

L794[14:33:59] <gigaherz> but calling it a "dos window"

L795[14:34:04] <gigaherz> or "dos commands" stuck

L796[14:34:24] <heldplayer> Nobody said command.com is dos either

L797[14:34:31] <gigaherz> yes, I did.

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L799[14:34:41] <gigaherz> eh

L800[14:34:42] <gigaherz> no wait

L801[14:34:43] <sham1> Well in case of BASH it is very widely used with Linux so the confusion can be easilly explained

L802[14:34:48] <PaleoCrafter> command.com is damage free hanging ;)

L803[14:34:48] <gigaherz> sorry brainfart

L804[14:35:18] <gigaherz> sham1: just like calling cmd.exe, which is designed to replicate the functionality of command.com, "dos"

L805[14:35:27] <gigaherz> that was my point

L806[14:35:39] <gigaherz> but yeah

L807[14:35:44] <gigaherz> cmd hasn't been dos, since win9x

L808[14:35:45] <gigaherz> ;P

L809[14:36:00] <gigaherz> and i can't remember it win9x had a cmd.exe or not

L810[14:36:17] * gigaherz boots the win98 VM

L811[14:36:37] <williewillus> you can force it back into immediate DOS mode on boot :p

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L814[14:37:33] <gigaherz> UGH win98 takes SO LONG to boot

L815[14:37:33] <gigaherz> XD

L816[14:37:54] <sham1> why do you have win98 VM for

L817[14:38:17] <gigaherz> yup win98 didn't have a console per se

L818[14:38:28] <gigaherz> it was command.com running in a MS-DOS window

L819[14:38:33] <gigaherz> sham1: fun :D

L820[14:38:36] <gigaherz> nostlagia

L821[14:39:09] <gigaherz> I also have some windows 1.01 in a folder somewhere

L822[14:39:10] <gigaherz> XD

L823[14:39:24] <gigaherz> although that one is fun alone

L824[14:39:33] <gigaherz> I never used windows 1 in an actual computer XD

L825[14:39:49] <gigaherz> (I mean running as the proper main "OS")

L826[14:40:03] <williewillus> did you ever watch that video where they upgraded a windows 1 install all the way to 7

L827[14:40:11] <gigaherz> (Windowsd 1 wasn't an OS, it was only a visual frontend to DOS, sorta)

L828[14:40:17] <gigaherz> williewillus: yes XD

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L830[14:45:34] <Sannholm> !dcc

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L833[14:47:58] <williewillus> is there a vnailla attribute for jumpboost?

L834[14:48:38] <diesieben07> nope, hardcoded to the potion

L835[14:48:53] <williewillus> boo, applying the potion it is

L836[14:48:58] <PaleoCrafter> Mojang ._.

L837[14:49:13] <PaleoCrafter> you could use LivingJumpEvent :P

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L839[14:50:16] <osum4est> how do i get the system time and mc time?

L840[14:50:18] <williewillus> another thing that needs to become an attribute/have attribute modifiers

L841[14:50:21] <williewillus> step height

L842[14:50:40] <williewillus> rn mods are just reading and writing off the player.stepHeight field and that's gotta cause some conflicts between different items that modify it

L843[14:50:42] <diesieben07> osum4est, System.getCurrentTimeMillis() and world.getWorldTime

L844[14:50:50] <osum4est> thx

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L849[14:55:00] <Chompzki> Is there a way to solve overlaping between a gui object and NEI? having problems to come up with a good way to solve this...

L850[14:55:27] <Ivorius> Probably NEI API

L851[14:55:29] <PaleoCrafter> depends

L852[14:55:35] <PaleoCrafter> items in the NEI panel?

L853[14:56:11] <PaleoCrafter> (are those overlapping?)

L854[14:56:14] <Ivorius> I believe it also automatically wraps around your GUI by their width and height attributes

L855[14:56:32] <Chompzki> Not overlapping the items on the right side. Overlapping with the buttons on the left.

L856[14:56:45] <PaleoCrafter> I don't think you can do anything about that

L857[14:57:02] <PaleoCrafter> apart from lowering the general GUI scale temporarily, lol

L858[14:57:08] <Chompzki> That sucks

L859[14:57:15] <Chompzki> xD

L860[14:58:14] <Chompzki> At the moment the player has to hide NEI if they want to see my gui properly when looking in a inventory... but if you don't hold a certain item my gui won't show.

L861[14:58:52] <Chompzki> So if i can't adapt the two sides... is there a way to hide certain NEI parts?

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L865[15:01:30] <MattDahEpic> idiot crashed into fiber routing box at end of street, everyone came out and yelled at him almost simultaiously

L866[15:01:37] <williewillus> lol

L867[15:01:53] <williewillus> did that include you ;p

L868[15:02:09] <MattDahEpic> yup

L869[15:02:27] <MattDahEpic> i was the one who called the isp to get it repaired

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L871[15:07:51] <osum4est> the gui allows you to draw a horizontal or vertical line, but can it draw a line between any two points?

L872[15:08:07] <diesieben07> sure

L873[15:08:23] <diesieben07> a line is just a very thin rectangle, so draw 4 vertices and your good ;)

L874[15:08:36] <PaleoCrafter> or draw a line :P

L875[15:08:50] <MattDahEpic> 1.9snap is spamming my server console with [20:08:35] [Server thread/WARN]: Tried to add entity with duplicate UUID 7470e8ae-b98e-4919-87bf-43d569ffe9bd

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L878[15:10:29] <osum4est> but i can't draw a really thin tilted rectangle can i?

L879[15:10:34] <osum4est> it only allows two points

L880[15:10:59] <osum4est> unless i can then rotate it?

L881[15:11:02] <diesieben07> what does?

L882[15:11:13] <osum4est> drawTexturedModelRect

L883[15:11:44] <diesieben07> yeah you need to use the tesselator directly

L884[15:11:56] <osum4est> oh

L885[15:12:06] <osum4est> got it

L886[15:12:11] <PaleoCrafter> and just use the line drawing mode :P

L887[15:12:39] <PaleoCrafter> GL11.GL_LINES

L888[15:12:41] <MattDahEpic> yay slot.weapon.offhand exists!

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L892[15:24:22] <williewillus> and apparently it's slot number -106

L893[15:24:24] <williewillus> because mojang

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L896[15:29:20] <MattDahEpic> well i scored a 3 letter mc username

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L899[15:31:04] <Devoenix> http://pastebin.com/7yswkCGH

L900[15:31:07] <Devoenix> crash report

L901[15:31:44] <diesieben07> itemphysic mod needs creativecore. Read the installation instructions for the mods you use.

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L903[15:32:04] <williewillus> MattDahEpic: what'd you get?

L904[15:32:04] <MattDahEpic> shot down

L905[15:32:08] <Devoenix> .. could've sworn i dragged that in >.>

L906[15:32:25] <MattDahEpic> williewillus, i got qkm

L907[15:32:36] <Devoenix> guess i didn't

L908[15:32:37] <Devoenix> eh

L909[15:32:41] <MattDahEpic> !gm qkm.a

L910[15:32:45] <MattDahEpic> dang

L911[15:33:00] <williewillus> lel

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L913[15:34:22] <minecreatr> is onBlockPlaced called before or after the tile entity is created?

L914[15:35:17] <diesieben07> it is called before the Block is placed.

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L920[15:45:17] <osum4est> what is the int that fontRender.drawString returns?

L921[15:45:48] <tterrag|away> length perhaps? not sure

L922[15:45:56] <tterrag|away> !gm FontRenderer.drawString 1.7.10

L923[15:46:02] <killjoy> It returns an int?

L924[15:46:08] <PaleoCrafter> looks like the width it has taken

L925[15:46:15] <tterrag|away> nothing in the javadocs

L926[15:46:18] <tterrag|away> but I'd assume width yes

L927[15:46:18] <diesieben07> no ti doesnt

L928[15:46:24] <diesieben07> it returns x + width

L929[15:46:28] <PaleoCrafter> ah, yeah

L930[15:46:36] <PaleoCrafter> so the end of the string

L931[15:46:39] <diesieben07> yes

L932[15:46:44] <osum4est> alright, thanks

L933[15:46:51] <PaleoCrafter> darn mutability

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L935[15:48:13] <tterrag|laptop> ?

L936[15:48:19] <osum4est> its annoying that theres no drawCenteredStringNoShadow

L937[15:48:46] <PaleoCrafter> tterrag|laptop, look at the font renderer :P

L938[15:48:53] <tterrag|laptop> can't atm

L939[15:48:54] <killjoy> Well it's not hard to work around

L940[15:49:00] <osum4est> yeah i know

L941[15:49:06] <osum4est> just kinda annoying

L942[15:49:23] <tterrag|laptop> mojang only implements what they use

L943[15:49:34] <killjoy> Anything not used gets stripped

L944[15:49:37] <PaleoCrafter> ^

L945[15:49:40] <tterrag|laptop> that too

L946[15:49:47] <osum4est> makes sense

L947[15:49:54] <PaleoCrafter> tterrag|laptop, let's just say that it has a lot of unnecessary state :P

L948[15:51:29] <osum4est> wait, can i get the width of what the text will be without actually drawing it?

L949[15:51:50] <PaleoCrafter> getStringWidth

L950[15:52:07] <osum4est> ah

L951[15:52:15] <tterrag|laptop> but that's the absolute width, of course

L952[15:54:04] <osum4est> meaning the width of the string not the x coord + width, right?

L953[15:54:18] <tterrag|laptop> right

L954[15:54:27] <osum4est> good

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L956[16:04:25] <williewillus> how do I add a layerrenderer to a player?

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L960[16:10:31] <Flashfire> I have a custom skeleton entity and it seems that vanilla mobs are hardcoded to drop their equipment with a fixed chance

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L963[16:11:31] <Flashfire> So I want to know how I can prevent mob equipment from being dropped?

L964[16:11:59] <Flashfire> Specifically the weapon is what I want to prevent

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L969[16:12:59] <diesieben07> LivingDropsEvent

L970[16:13:23] <Laceh> lmfao my sunday afternoon project was creating a faster json deserializer :D

L971[16:13:30] <Flashfire> Thank you diesieben

L972[16:13:43] <PaleoCrafter> faster than what, Laceh? :P

L973[16:13:51] <Laceh> gson :D

L974[16:13:56] <Laceh> albeit json is slow

L975[16:14:02] <Laceh> the results will be in in asecond

L976[16:14:05] <Laceh> Im testing gson and boon

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L979[16:16:39] <Laceh> my lib takes approximately 30+ms

L980[16:16:48] <Laceh> gson takes approximagely 80+ms

L981[16:16:55] <Laceh> and boon takes approximately 80+ms

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L984[16:18:45] <tterrag|laptop> Laceh, no one uses gson for speed

L985[16:18:50] <killjoy> I want to do a PR for the installer that adds better support for version independent tweaks.

L986[16:18:57] <Laceh> ofc not but you use boon for speed

L987[16:19:01] <Laceh> and it still is faster

L988[16:19:36] <tterrag|laptop> what the heck is boon

L989[16:20:31] <tterrag|laptop> can your lib handle generics? does it have type adapters? lenient parsing? etc?

L990[16:20:41] <tterrag|laptop> these are things that make gson more useful, albeit slower

L991[16:20:56] <Laceh> tterrag|laptop: boon is a super fast json parser

L992[16:21:02] <Laceh> and mine handles generics :D

L993[16:21:09] <Laceh> and it has type adapters :D

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L997[16:22:44] <tterrag|laptop> the other thing gson has going for it is that it comes with MC

L998[16:22:48] <tterrag|laptop> which is really all that I care about :p

L999[16:23:47] <Laceh> XD

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L1001[16:25:42] <ELChris414> Hey yo!

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L1003[16:36:54] <williewillus> is there a way to have java 8 written code compile to 7 or 6 level bytecode / how do I set that up if so

L1004[16:37:14] <tterrag|laptop> yes

L1005[16:37:19] <tterrag|laptop> targetCompatability=1.6

L1006[16:37:21] <tterrag|laptop> in build.gradle

L1007[16:37:43] <williewillus> awesome thanks

L1008[16:38:00] <tterrag|laptop> https://github.com/diesieben07/SevenCommons/blob/master/build.gradle#L28-L29

L1009[16:38:01] <tterrag|laptop> like that

L1010[16:38:11] <killjoy> in my experience, only the sourceCompatability can be lower.

L1011[16:38:20] <tterrag|laptop> soureCompat means it'll throw compile errors if you use j8 code

L1012[16:38:26] <tterrag|laptop> targetcompat is bytecode level

L1013[16:38:53] <killjoy> It threw an error: target compat cannot be lower than source compat.

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L1016[16:41:07] <killjoy> javacTask: target release 1.6 conflicts with default source release 1.8

L1017[16:41:28] <shadekiller666> apparently the "facing" direction of comparators is towards the input...

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L1019[16:44:10] <williewillus> lol

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L1032[17:15:50] <PaleoCrafter> killjoy, you can use retrolambda, but that's about it :P

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L1034[17:18:22] <killjoy> I don't have an issue with using java 6

L1035[17:19:04] <PaleoCrafter> you should have though :P

L1036[17:19:12] <killjoy> If I really wanted to use lambdas, I'd use scala.

L1037[17:19:13] <PaleoCrafter> at least use 7

L1038[17:20:26] <killjoy> I'll program it, but I won't actually use it.

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L1042[17:26:16] <killjoy> I'll use 1.7 for non-mods

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L1044[17:26:51] <williewillus> is it okay to extend fontrenderer and use that extended instance in one gui?

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L1046[17:27:19] <killjoy> I've seen it before

L1047[17:27:32] <williewillus> okay just making sure there's not like hidden state in fontrenderer that would prevent that

L1048[17:27:44] <killjoy> But the person who used it is the one everyone hates

L1049[17:27:57] <williewillus> oh lol

L1050[17:29:48] <PaleoCrafter> williewillus, there's a lot of unnecessary state in the font renderer, but fortunately it's not static :P

L1051[17:35:51] <shadekiller666> what is the easiest way to tell if a player has entered a world for the first time?

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L1053[17:37:26] <williewillus> nbt tags on them?

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L1055[17:37:47] <shadekiller666> so set a tag on the player when they enter?

L1056[17:37:59] <williewillus> like a tag boolean hasJoined and when they join set it to true

L1057[17:38:01] <shadekiller666> then check it?

L1058[17:38:04] <PaleoCrafter> I've told you already, IEEP :P

L1059[17:38:05] <shadekiller666> ok

L1060[17:38:13] <williewillus> it will be false if the tag is not present which means they haven't joined before

L1061[17:38:25] <williewillus> so check it before setting it

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L1065[17:52:29] <shadekiller666> anyone have an example of using an IEEP?

L1066[17:54:31] <Zaggy1024> ugh, I'm trying to use the MC profiler to find out what effect my code is having on performance and it's causing a crash in some other code :|

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L1068[17:57:55] <Zaggy1024> hm

L1069[17:58:04] <Zaggy1024> perhaps it's some concurrency problem

L1070[17:58:56] <williewillus> wait are vanilla models limited to 22.5 and 45 degree rotations?

L1071[17:59:01] <williewillus> only?

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L1073[17:59:43] <shadekiller666> willie, 22.5 and multiples of

L1074[18:00:02] <williewillus> what if I need more precise rotations?

L1075[18:00:08] <MattDahEpic> shulkers have cute little spirals on the bottm squeeeee

L1076[18:00:10] <williewillus> do the forge ones allow for that?

L1077[18:00:10] <shadekiller666> 22.5, 45, 67.5, 90 etc

L1078[18:00:22] <shadekiller666> the forge blockstate ones?

L1079[18:00:28] <williewillus> yes

L1080[18:00:31] <shadekiller666> yep

L1081[18:00:37] <shadekiller666> they should

L1082[18:02:59] <williewillus> is there an example of the forge model format anywhere? (or do I just specify it in the forge blockstate?)

L1083[18:03:16] <shadekiller666> one sec

L1084[18:03:19] <PaleoCrafter> there's no 'forge model format', only the blockstates :P

L1085[18:03:39] <PaleoCrafter> https://gist.github.com/RainWarrior/0618131f51b8d37b80a6

L1086[18:03:41] <williewillus> but then how do I specify rotations more precise than what vanilla allows?

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L1088[18:04:36] <shadekiller666> willie, one sec

L1089[18:04:51] <PaleoCrafter> I just linked it, lol :P

L1090[18:05:13] <williewillus> is there an example of that in use .-.

L1091[18:05:47] <PaleoCrafter> it's as simple as "transform": { "rotation": { "axis": degrees } } in a variant :P

L1092[18:06:13] <shadekiller666> willie, look at the "normal" and "inventory" "transform" keys: https://gist.github.com/shadekiller666/7ed83c958474835b1a62

L1093[18:06:46] <shadekiller666> in the "inventory" block, in "transform", "rotation is an array of {}, and each number is in degrees unrestricted

L1094[18:07:10] <shadekiller666> or "rotation" can be just 1 axis, like it is in the "normal" block

L1095[18:07:30] <shadekiller666> for the array version, the rotations are applied in the order in which they are defined

L1096[18:07:47] <shadekiller666> so in that case the "y" would be applied first, then "x", etc

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L1098[18:08:32] <williewillus> ah i get it now

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L1100[18:09:10] <shadekiller666> you can also define "rotation" as a quaternion, but its easier to do it this way

L1101[18:09:11] <williewillus> can we use the forge:default-item/tool/block transforms for things that only have an item form?

L1102[18:09:22] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L1103[18:09:46] <shadekiller666> just use them in the "inventory" key, "normal" applies to the in-world model i think

L1104[18:10:21] <gigaherz> yup "inventory" is for the ItemBlock, while "normal" is for non-stateful blocks in the world

L1105[18:10:37] <gigaherz> by default, "inventory" maps to "normal"

L1106[18:10:51] <gigaherz> but if your block has states, you have to manually indicate which state corresponds to the item in hand

L1107[18:10:56] <gigaherz> or well, which model

L1108[18:11:14] <shadekiller666> for example, the "normal" in the json i linked rotates the block's model 45 degrees in the world

L1109[18:11:40] <williewillus> but i mean like for an item that doesnt even have a block form

L1110[18:12:06] <williewillus> still use this format?

L1111[18:12:21] <gigaherz> an item only exists in inventory form

L1112[18:12:26] <gigaherz> you don't have variants in it

L1113[18:13:00] <gigaherz> I never tried the default transform things though

L1114[18:13:05] <gigaherz> so no idea how they are even supposed to work

L1115[18:13:06] <gigaherz> XD

L1116[18:13:07] <shadekiller666> yes willie

L1117[18:13:12] <gigaherz> but I'd assume so?

L1118[18:13:21] <shadekiller666> item-only ones should work pretty much the same

L1119[18:13:45] <Vorquel> What's the easier way to deal wih angles, shadekiller666?

L1120[18:13:54] <shadekiller666> ?

L1121[18:13:58] <shadekiller666> in the jsons?

L1122[18:14:26] <Vorquel> I was just wondering what the question was that I came in halfway through

L1123[18:14:41] <shadekiller666> https://gist.github.com/shadekiller666/7ed83c958474835b1a62 look at the "rotation" keys

L1124[18:15:17] <Vorquel> What is that, Euler angles?

L1125[18:15:21] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L1126[18:15:40] <PaleoCrafter> don't worry, you can use quaternions too :P

L1127[18:15:41] <williewillus> can I rotate individual cubes in a model more precise than 22.5 or do I need to use submodels and rotate those

L1128[18:15:41] <shadekiller666> "rotation" can be defined in a quaternion, but its easier to use eulers

L1129[18:16:19] <shadekiller666> willie, if you want to rotate individual pieces they'd have to be separate submodels

L1130[18:16:33] <shadekiller666> or an obj but thats not pulled yet

L1131[18:16:44] <PaleoCrafter> uhm... b3d :P

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L1133[18:17:13] <shadekiller666> that too, if you bake the rotation in ahead of time

L1134[18:17:19] <shadekiller666> and iterate through the keyframes

L1135[18:17:33] <PaleoCrafter> well, if it's an item, you can't do anything else anyway :P

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L1137[18:22:10] <Zaggy1024> how does one make the chunk not re-render and update light when my block changes states?

L1138[18:22:35] <PaleoCrafter> don't use 3 as flag for setBlockState :P

L1139[18:22:46] <gigaherz> specify a flag, but not make it 3 ;PO

L1140[18:23:30] <Zaggy1024> urgh I'm stupid

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L1142[18:24:07] <Zaggy1024> so I think what was causing the ridiculous lag in my dimensions was that the leaves started out with CHECK_DECAY true and when they set it false it sends a packet to the client to update

L1143[18:24:14] <Zaggy1024> and that caused tons and tons of chunk updates

L1144[18:24:16] <Zaggy1024> >.<

L1145[18:29:00] <MattDahEpic> anyone knows the class name for the 1.9 end city/ship generation

L1146[18:29:05] <MattDahEpic> ?

L1147[18:29:43] <williewillus> okay I'm being really dumb right now. But I want to use the default transform for items without recopying the vanilla one over and over or having a dummy parent json...this is the item *model* json, I register the normal way, and it doesnt work >.>

L1148[18:29:44] <williewillus> http://pastebin.com/mxBkAMAa

L1149[18:29:56] <williewillus> the "forge:default-item" thing

L1150[18:30:29] <PaleoCrafter> that thing only works for blockstates :P

L1151[18:30:40] <PaleoCrafter> and afaik, you don't need to specify any transforms

L1152[18:30:54] <williewillus> i just asked if I could use it on something that only had an item form and was told yes lol

L1153[18:31:02] <williewillus> no, the no-transforms is angled wron

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L1156[18:31:49] <PaleoCrafter> impossibru

L1157[18:32:05] <williewillus> http://gyazo.com/c4f48dbdb88a0ac37554f26a37239373 vs http://gyazo.com/3b069212e8b7a1d833626382ca366d59

L1158[18:32:07] <williewillus> first is default

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L1160[18:32:17] <williewillus> second is whta vanilla respecifies in every json over and over again

L1161[18:32:30] <PaleoCrafter> hm, PR it then :P

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L1163[18:34:08] <shadekiller666> willie

L1164[18:34:28] <shadekiller666> for item-only ones, use a forge blockstate

L1165[18:34:59] <shadekiller666> the "forge:default-item" key only works in jsons marked with "forge_marker": 1

L1166[18:35:17] <shadekiller666> which denotes that forge should load it, instead of passing it to vanilla's parser

L1167[18:35:24] <williewillus> so like instead of registering a item model json to ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation I give it a forge blockstate json?

L1168[18:35:34] <shadekiller666> yep

L1169[18:35:49] <PaleoCrafter> may I tell you that that is fucking counter-intuitive? :P

L1170[18:36:02] <shadekiller666> just put the json in blockstate folder, and name it whatever string you pass to setCustomModelResourceLocation

L1171[18:36:07] <shadekiller666> ya well

L1172[18:36:13] <shadekiller666> i didn't write it

L1173[18:36:42] <Sannholm> !dcc

L1174[18:37:03] <shadekiller666> O.o

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L1176[18:37:18] <shadekiller666> so it seems like world.getTopSolidOrLiquidBlock is broken?

L1177[18:37:56] <shadekiller666> in a flat world with the "water world" preset, it returns the pos of the water block directly above the sand layer

L1178[18:38:07] <shadekiller666> instead of the pos of the top most water block...

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L1182[18:45:20] <williewillus> probably just got misnamed?

L1183[18:46:06] <williewillus> okay more derping, i did this and crashed trying to find builtin/generated :p http://pastebin.com/W1uz8J41

L1184[18:46:46] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, it doesn't work that way

L1185[18:46:48] <shadekiller666> move "model" to the "defaults" block as shown in the gist i linked earlier

L1186[18:48:16] <shadekiller666> and also move the "textures" to "defaults" as well

L1187[18:48:25] <shadekiller666> and leave just the "transform" in "inventory"

L1188[18:48:49] <shadekiller666> also, you might need the "normal" key with just [{}], after it

L1189[18:49:10] <shadekiller666> so that the parser doesn't get angry that something is missing, but i'm not 100% sure about that

L1190[18:49:40] <williewillus> still crashes trying to find builtin/generated in minecraft:block/....not sure if this actually works for items or not lol

L1191[18:50:15] <PaleoCrafter> as I said :P

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L1193[18:51:59] <shadekiller666> i've done it with an item-only before

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L1195[18:55:17] <shadekiller666> aha!

L1196[18:55:28] <shadekiller666> willie: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/master/src/test/resources/assets/forgedebugitemlayermodel/blockstates/TestItem.json

L1197[18:55:58] <shadekiller666> thats the "blockstate" json for an item-only forge blockstate

L1198[18:56:05] <williewillus> forge:item-layer

L1199[18:56:12] <williewillus> completely undocumented yay :p

L1200[18:56:12] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L1201[18:56:15] <shadekiller666> lol

L1202[18:56:53] <shadekiller666> well you have to dig through the example mods on the forge github repo to find it

L1203[18:57:24] <shadekiller666> a good majority of what the forge blockstates can do is in those somewhere, you just have to find them :P

L1204[18:58:03] <williewillus> i hope someone documents it once it stabilizes 0.o

L1205[18:58:58] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L1206[18:59:23] <shadekiller666> thats one thing fry needs to do when he gets back, though he kind of documented the forge blockstates

L1207[18:59:47] <williewillus> wat

L1208[18:59:50] <williewillus> same crash

L1209[19:00:03] <shadekiller666> ?

L1210[19:00:14] <shadekiller666> can i see your json again?

L1211[19:00:15] <williewillus> I'll move it out of the defaults and see

L1212[19:00:36] <shadekiller666> make it look like the last one i linked

L1213[19:00:48] <shadekiller666> the one that referenced "forge:item-layer"

L1214[19:02:08] <williewillus> made it look exact same except for texture name and it crashes

L1215[19:02:11] <williewillus> maybe I'm registering wrong

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L1219[19:05:19] <shadekiller666> wtf, skype is now able to auto-play video advertisements?

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L1221[19:05:45] <shadekiller666> willie, this is the mod file for that TestItem json: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/master/src/test/java/net/minecraftforge/debug/ItemLayerModelDebug.java

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L1228[19:29:24] <williewillus> shadekiller666: yeah i do exactly that :/ this is weird

L1229[19:29:51] <shadekiller666> :/

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L1232[19:33:49] <williewillus> the Forge blockstate deserializer adds block/ in front of everything and I dont see special handling for item-layer so I'm confused as to how that test worked

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L1235[19:36:37] <shadekiller666> O.o

L1236[19:36:46] <shadekiller666> i know that item actually works... wtf

L1237[19:36:55] <shadekiller666> the one that that json is for i mean

L1238[19:37:03] <shadekiller666> it works in my obj loader dev env

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L1241[19:37:38] <williewillus> ah I did ModelLoader.addVariantName for it. That might be why

L1242[19:38:43] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L1243[19:39:41] <shadekiller666> and i found where the game checks for "forge:item-layer" if you look in "client/model/ItemLayerModel" its at the bottom of the class

L1244[19:39:46] <shadekiller666> well bottom of the file

L1245[19:39:53] <killjoy> Have all the 1.7 snapshots dissapeared from the launcher?

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L1247[19:40:24] <williewillus> why does addVariantName break it? becuase it's a item think?

L1248[19:40:51] <williewillus> okay so it loads now but texture is gone :p lemme recheck again

L1249[19:41:28] <gigaherz> addVariant is required for items though?

L1250[19:41:32] <williewillus> mode definition for ...#inventory not found

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L1252[19:42:51] <shadekiller666> O.o

L1253[19:42:56] <williewillus> so more like it took out the model instead of fixing it lol

L1254[19:43:16] <shadekiller666> you are just not having an easy time with this are you?

L1255[19:43:18] <gigaherz> yeah no addVariant == mc won't even try to load the item model

L1256[19:43:44] <williewillus> its not a big deal to not be able to use them for itme-only's but I'm just curious why it seemingly doesnt work for me

L1257[19:43:56] <williewillus> I'm gonna clone forge and see if that works

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L1259[19:44:01] <gigaherz> I really haven't figured out any way to get forge to load a custom item model aside of using my obj loader's registration process

L1260[19:44:13] <gigaherz> and injecting the model in the model bake event

L1261[19:46:27] <shadekiller666> willie, can i see your code and json again?

L1262[19:46:40] <Vorquel> I don't see any snapshots besides 1.9 ones, killjoy.

L1263[19:46:53] <killjoy> That's what I thought.

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L1266[19:48:01] <Vorquel> That must be recent. I remember seeing them just a couple days ago.

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L1268[19:48:49] <williewillus> they only keep snapshots like 5 weeks back on the launcher

L1269[19:49:00] <killjoy> This is why I ask. http://imgur.com/g3jrab1

L1270[19:49:18] <shadekiller666> !gm func_175757_a

L1271[19:49:37] <killjoy> I was testing things and was expecting more than 3 snapshots to show up.

L1272[19:50:15] <williewillus> shadekiller666: https://github.com/williewillus/AdventureBackpack3

L1273[19:50:27] <Vorquel> Well, it's not Lex's fault.

L1274[19:50:59] <shadekiller666> willie, which item are we talking about?

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L1276[19:51:35] <williewillus> CraftingComponent, specifically I only tried doing the forge json for meta 1 (which is backpack_tank)

L1277[19:53:57] <shadekiller666> so in-game is the backpack_tank just rendered as the missing texture?

L1278[19:54:17] <williewillus> if I removed ModelLoader.addVariant model is not found, if i have it, it crashes

L1279[19:54:28] <williewillus> saying "forge:block/item-layer not found"

L1280[19:54:41] <shadekiller666> O.o

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L1283[19:56:26] <Ri5ux> All the shit in my mod.... http://i.imgur.com/XTOaj0X.png

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L1285[19:57:04] <shadekiller666> in the console, when you run the game without ModelLoader.addVariant(), what does it say when it prints the error for the model not being found? ie. the part before the #inventory

L1286[19:57:23] <williewillus> model definition not found for adventurebackpack3:backpack_tank#inventory

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L1288[19:57:43] <Vorquel> Dats some cool stuff Ri5ux

L1289[19:57:48] <Ri5ux> Thanks

L1290[19:58:05] <Ri5ux> HassanS6000 helped with some of it.

L1291[19:59:34] <Vorquel> I feel like I just looked at hundreds of hours of work.

L1292[19:59:44] <Ri5ux> 3 years of work.

L1293[20:00:21] <Vorquel> dang

L1294[20:00:50] <Vorquel> keeping up with mc alone in that timeframe is daunting

L1295[20:01:01] <Ri5ux> :P

L1296[20:01:10] <williewillus> bleh, switch projects for now, I'll look at it later

L1297[20:01:49] <Vorquel> Makes me excited to get started on my next project

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L1299[20:03:20] <shadekiller666> willie, are all of the CraftingComponent.ComponentTypes supposed to be 1 item/model?

L1300[20:03:34] <shadekiller666> and the texture would change based on meta?

L1301[20:03:49] <shadekiller666> similar to vanilla dye?

L1302[20:03:54] <williewillus> yeah

L1303[20:04:46] <shadekiller666> hmm

L1304[20:04:52] <gigaherz> williewillus: at this point, I must offer a look at my obj model loader XD

L1305[20:05:00] <Ri5ux> Mine is better <3

L1306[20:05:21] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/models/ObjModelRegistrationHelper.java#L93

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L1309[20:06:05] <gigaherz> the way I do it is as follows: 1. in my clientproxy, I "register" with my loader the items/blocks that I want to have my own models instead of the normal json processing

L1310[20:06:18] <shadekiller666> hmm

L1311[20:06:20] <gigaherz> 2. on texture stitch, I add all texture references needed by them

L1312[20:06:28] <gigaherz> 3. on model bake, I generate BakedModels for them

L1313[20:07:38] <gigaherz> the ICustomModelLoader method is supported, but not used

L1314[20:07:44] <gigaherz> because I haven't been able to use it for items

L1315[20:08:01] <shadekiller666> let me test something

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L1318[20:11:24] <Ri5ux> Just for the record, "bake" is a terrible term. This isnt homec.

L1319[20:11:36] <gigaherz> it's still used in graphics

L1320[20:11:39] <Vorquel> makes me hungry

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L1322[20:11:59] <Ri5ux> There's gotta be a better synonym to "bake"

L1323[20:12:05] <gigaherz> "baked animations" refer to having a model file with one mesh for each animation frame

L1324[20:12:14] <gigaherz> "baked lighting" refers to precomputed light information

L1325[20:12:24] <Ri5ux> I know what it refers to...

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L1327[20:12:28] <Ri5ux> But bake sounds retarded

L1328[20:12:42] <gigaherz> and well, they bake electronics too

L1329[20:12:42] <Vorquel> I didn't know that. TIL

L1330[20:12:42] <gigaherz> XD

L1331[20:12:50] <Cazzar> If you use any word enough it sounds retarded

L1332[20:13:07] <gigaherz> you bake a circuit board -- literally -- to melt the tin, and put things in place

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L1334[20:13:08] <gigaherz> XD

L1335[20:13:17] <Ri5ux> AKA reflowing

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L1338[20:13:35] <Ri5ux> Honestly reflowModel sounds better

L1339[20:13:39] <Ri5ux> Liek fuck

L1340[20:13:51] <gigaherz> only the first time

L1341[20:13:55] <gigaherz> repeat it 5-10 times in your head

L1342[20:13:56] <gigaherz> XD

L1343[20:14:16] <Ri5ux> At least reflow doesnt refer to the thing I do when i go in the kitchen

L1344[20:14:45] <Ri5ux> I'm just going to name a method washDishes and have it render a model.

L1345[20:14:50] <Ri5ux> Also putInMicrowave

L1346[20:14:54] <shadekiller666> willie, does the sleeping_bag have a model? or is that handled in a different way?

L1347[20:14:57] <Vorquel> eatCake

L1348[20:14:57] <Cazzar> reflow would assume that the model wasn't static to begin with

L1349[20:15:29] <williewillus> shadekiller666: they all have item model jsons, I was just trying the forge thing out with one particular meta value

L1350[20:16:09] <Ri5ux> Hell, flushToilet

L1351[20:16:28] <shadekiller666> hmm

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L1353[20:18:56] <Vorquel> I would use crystalize or unroll, but bake is sensible enough for me

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L1355[20:19:31] <gigaherz> IMO, of all the misuses of bake, it makes more sense than most

L1356[20:19:46] <gigaherz> you take the "ingredients", put them through a process, so that they are ready to consume

L1357[20:19:49] <gigaherz> isn't that baking? ;P

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L1359[20:20:45] <Vorquel> In any case, using an idustry standard term that's a little dumb is better than having to explain your naming convension every time IMO

L1360[20:21:22] <Ri5ux> updateModel isn't good enough?

L1361[20:21:31] <gigaherz> no, it's not updating it

L1362[20:21:38] <Ri5ux> In a way, it is.

L1363[20:21:47] <gigaherz> the bake process converts the model info into BakeQuads, which are then converted into the VBO/displaylist

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L1365[20:25:06] <Ri5ux> Uh, so then convertModel?

L1366[20:25:51] <gigaherz> but convert to? ;P

L1367[20:26:07] <gigaherz> "convert to rendering-ready format" is exatly what "baking" implies ;P

L1368[20:26:10] <Ri5ux> convertModelToQuads?

L1369[20:26:31] <Vorquel> convertModelToBaked or bakeModel for short :P

L1370[20:26:42] <Ri5ux> But then it has bake in it

L1371[20:26:51] <shadekiller666> willie, this is interesting

L1372[20:26:55] <Vorquel> joke

L1373[20:27:21] <shadekiller666> i opened my obj dev env, and added a sub item for the TestItem thats in the example

L1374[20:27:22] <williewillus> ?

L1375[20:27:30] <williewillus> it breaks

L1376[20:27:44] <shadekiller666> and i found a way to get it to load the model for both of them

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L1378[20:28:40] <shadekiller666> but, (and this may be because i'm pointing them to the same json) both meta data values use the same texture

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L1380[20:29:01] <shadekiller666> i might be doing the texture assignment wrong though

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L1383[20:39:12] <Cazzar> Ri5ux: Here's my answer to your issue, it is what it is, get over it :3

L1384[20:39:27] * Ri5ux just likes to complain

L1385[20:40:03] <Cazzar> Hence the last comment :P

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L1387[20:45:28] <shadekiller666> willie, what is the error message when you have ModelLoader.addVariantName?

L1388[20:47:20] <williewillus> simple model definition not found

L1389[20:47:39] <williewillus> Model definition for adventurebackpack3:backpack_tank#inventory not found

L1390[20:49:45] <shadekiller666> hmmm

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L1394[21:03:11] <Flashfire> Is there a way to add multiple color codes to an itemstack name without it messing up on build?

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L1396[21:06:32] <tterrag> Flashfire: use EnumChatFormatting

L1397[21:06:43] <tterrag> class files aren't UTF8

L1398[21:06:47] <tterrag> so the section char won't work right

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L1402[21:15:19] <Flashfire> It didn't let me use that more than once

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L1404[21:16:31] <Flashfire> Nvm I found a workaround, thanks

L1405[21:16:52] <williewillus> EnumChatFormatting.GREEN + "Your text here: " + EnumChatFormatting.YELLOW + " more stuff here" ?

L1406[21:17:39] <Flashfire> I actually wanted both an effect and a color

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L1408[21:18:04] <Flashfire> So I just did chatformattingcolor + "" + chatformattingeffect

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L1426[21:54:21] <killjoy1> For some reason, eclipse didn't error when I used a non-final variable in an anonymous inner class

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L1428[21:54:48] <killjoy1> Does effectively final also count for anonymous classes now in java 8?

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L1430[21:56:45] <gigaherz> I guess they could havechanged the closure semantics for anonymous classes -- my experience with java8 is extremely limited

L1431[21:58:02] <gigaherz> " This was all true for Java 7, keep in mind that with Java 8, closures have been introduced and now it is indeed possible to access a non-final field of a class from its inner class. – Mathias Bader Oct 24 '14 at 14:41 "

L1432[21:58:14] <Laceh> welp rapidjson-java now officially is on par with gson feature wise, and better performance wise :D

L1433[21:58:15] <gigaherz> I had to get to a cached copy because the comment was gone from the live versions

L1434[21:58:35] <gigaherz> it does appear that it has changed, based on this comment

L1435[21:58:43] <gigaherz> butthe fact that the comment is gone COULD mean it was wrong?

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L1439[22:05:58] <killjoy1> Thoughts? https://github.com/MinecraftForge/Installer/compare/master...killjoy1221:master

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L1441[22:07:26] <Mraof> I was trying to get a block from a different mod in my init/load method

L1442[22:07:32] <Mraof> And it didn't exist yet at that point

L1443[22:07:49] <Mraof> So I looked at the decompiled source code and they register it in a static code block

L1444[22:07:59] <Mraof> Why would you do that

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L1446[22:08:34] <killjoy1> heh

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L1448[22:08:57] <killjoy1> Tell us who it was so we can laugh at them :D

L1449[22:09:10] <killjoy1> loljk

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L1451[22:09:21] <shadekiller666> so apparently world.getTopSolidOrLiquidBlock() doesn't actually account for liquid...

L1452[22:09:32] <Mraof> Well it was a block from Nevermine

L1453[22:10:05] <Mraof> (I'm making a small mod to make some nevermine ores usable as materials for tinkers construct)

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L1456[22:11:14] <killjoy1> NeverTinkers'

L1457[22:11:17] <shadekiller666> if you make a superflat world with the Water World preset, then set a blockpos to world.getTopSolidOrLiquidBlock(world.getSpawnPoint()), that blockpos points to the bottom-most water block in the column of blocks

L1458[22:11:25] <Mraof> That might be a better name that what I have atm

L1459[22:11:33] <Mraof> Right now it's just NevermineTiC

L1460[22:12:02] <killjoy1> does aobd support tic?

L1461[22:12:13] <killjoy1> That's probably not the same thing, though

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L1463[22:13:16] <Mraof> aobd?

L1464[22:13:25] <killjoy1> another one bites the dust

L1465[22:13:36] <killjoy1> it adds dusts for all the ores

L1466[22:13:43] <killjoy1> all of them

L1467[22:14:00] <Mraof> Well it looks like it's actually a TIC addon

L1468[22:14:02] <killjoy1> greg would have a field day with that mod

L1469[22:14:05] <shadekiller666> so to get the top-most block, i am using a for loop with an empty body, with the arguments (blockpos.up(); world.getBlockState(blockpos.up()).getBlock().getMaterial().isLiquid(); blockpos = blockpos.up()), and i was wondering if there is another way to do that

L1470[22:14:11] <shadekiller666> like with a lambda or something

L1471[22:15:27] <killjoy1> uh..

L1472[22:15:40] <killjoy1> top most block of what?

L1473[22:15:42] <killjoy1> water?

L1474[22:15:52] <killjoy1> the water's surface?

L1475[22:16:22] <shadekiller666> well, the spawnpoint of a world is always at y 4, and i want to get the top-most block in the world, so the surface of the flat world, yes

L1476[22:16:55] <killjoy1> Ok, I see what you're trying to do.

L1477[22:17:09] <killjoy1> Shouldn't the surface be in the presets?

L1478[22:17:36] <shadekiller666> probably, but idk where to obtain those

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L1480[22:18:08] <killjoy1> Something generator

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