L10[13:21:48] <hehe> heyyy

L11[13:23:07] <hehe> anyone here?

L12[13:24:01] <Caitlyn> define "here"

L15[13:28:52] <awweaver> define "anyone"

L16[13:30:53] <Caitlyn> define " "

L17[13:31:15] <awweaver> I think we need to talk to the Space Core abou thtis.

L18[13:31:16] <awweaver> this

L19[13:31:22] <awweaver> me tpye gud

L20[13:32:39] <awweaver> http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/02/02/1621236/wa-bill-takes-aim-at-boys-dominance-in-computer-classes

L21[13:32:41] <awweaver> ....

L22[13:33:00] <awweaver> Cause apparently they want to force people to do stuff they dont want to do.

L23[13:33:12] <awweaver> for a living

L24[13:33:49] <dominikh> that's the definition of school.

L25[13:34:16] <awweaver> Indeed.

L26[13:34:22] <awweaver> But still.

L27[13:34:37] <awweaver> Focus on people actually learning the shit you teach them.

L28[13:41:27] <hehe> so

L29[13:41:36] <hehe> question for somone about the mod:

L30[13:41:53] <hehe> is there a way t find a lost stargate

L31[13:42:03] <hehe> s/t /to/

L32[13:47:00] <Caitlyn> %sed enable

L33[13:47:01] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Enabled SED for this channel

L34[13:47:06] <Caitlyn> Umm... not really no

L35[13:47:24] <Caitlyn> %url enable

L36[13:47:24] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Enabled URLInfo for this channel

L37[13:47:30] <Caitlyn> %yt enable

L38[13:47:30] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Enabled YTInfo for this channel

L39[13:47:40] <hehe> having fun?

L40[13:47:53] <Caitlyn> Umm, maybe?

L41[13:48:06] <Caitlyn> Just enabling features I had disabled because I had another bot in here

L45[15:45:24] <AfterLifeLochie> hehe: No, there is no way to recover a lost Stargate address.

L46[15:46:05] <Caitlyn> I covered that :P

L47[15:46:16] <AfterLifeLochie> Shush you. :p

L49[15:46:31] <Caitlyn> lol

L50[15:47:21] <AfterLifeLochie> Caitlyn: https://github.com/AfterLifeLochie/triggers/tree/master/src/main/java/triggers/dbx

L51[15:48:25] <Caitlyn> I'm scared

L52[15:48:38] <AfterLifeLochie> I hate SQL.

L53[15:48:43] <Caitlyn> Who doesn't?

L54[15:48:48] <AfterLifeLochie> I didn't until now.

L55[15:48:50] <AfterLifeLochie> :c

L56[15:50:07] <hehe> AfterLifeLochie: i mean a lost address as in idk the coords but the gate is there

L57[15:50:18] <hehe> is there a list of gates somwhere

L58[15:50:22] <AfterLifeLochie> hehe: You would need to know the coordinates to determine the address.

L59[15:51:21] <Caitlyn> AKA, no there is no list of gates

L60[15:51:23] <hehe> is that why they are nine digits long not the normal 7?

L61[15:51:36] <AfterLifeLochie> No, they're 9 digits so that we can store data in th em.

L62[15:51:50] <AfterLifeLochie> SELECT substring_index(a.forge, '.', -1) AS forge , COUNT(a.side) AS server, c.num AS client FROM `analytics` AS a

L63[15:51:51] <AfterLifeLochie> LEFT JOIN (SELECT substring_index(forge, '.', -1) AS forge, COUNT(1) AS num FROM `analytics` WHERE side = 'CLIENT'

L64[15:51:51] <AfterLifeLochie> GROUP BY substring_index(forge, '.', -1) ) AS c ON c.forge = substring_index(a.forge, '.', -1)

L65[15:51:51] <AfterLifeLochie> WHERE side = 'SERVER'

L66[15:51:51] <AfterLifeLochie> GROUP BY substring_index(a.forge, '.', -1), c.num;

L67[15:51:53] <AfterLifeLochie> lol wow.

L68[15:52:01] <Caitlyn> you can dial gates in the same dim as you with only 7 characters still

L69[15:52:19] <hehe> so you only need the first 7?

L70[15:52:21] <hehe> also

L71[15:52:22] <Caitlyn> 9 is only required to address gates outside your current dim

L72[15:53:31] <hehe> can there be a decorative block that has the chevrons so i can make somthing like an Abydos cartouche

L73[15:54:02] <hehe> not really the place but wanted to see what you thought before i submit it to ideas

L74[15:54:08] <AfterLifeLochie> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaCraft/issues/155

L75[15:54:18] <Caitlyn> ^

L76[15:54:20] <AfterLifeLochie> Caitlyn: I should work on a feature search thing.

L77[15:54:25] <Caitlyn> heh

L78[15:55:11] <hehe> sweet

L79[15:55:19] <hehe> also (searches for other one)

L80[15:55:30] <AfterLifeLochie> You should note that things "2.0-release" will come out firsrt.

L81[15:55:44] <AfterLifeLochie> Then "2.1-future-features" will come out once the main stuff is stable.

L82[15:56:02] <hehe> i freeking love this mod

L84[15:56:52] <hehe> it does not say but would that come with a divece to close the iris form the other bus

L85[15:59:33] <AfterLifeLochie> You'll be able to control it with redstone or a Computer, probably.

L86[15:59:56] <AfterLifeLochie> The GDO reciever will probably be a block which you can configure to output different redstone signals.

L87[16:00:08] <AfterLifeLochie> (It'll probably also be a computer peripheral/device too, I imagine)

L88[16:00:12] <Caitlyn> and then I'll stick an OC interface on it :P

L89[16:00:17] <Caitlyn> and maybe a CC interface

L90[16:00:18] <Caitlyn> maybe...

L91[16:00:18] <AfterLifeLochie> Exactly. :p

L92[16:00:27] <AfterLifeLochie> Well, I've been thinking about that.

L93[16:00:31] <AfterLifeLochie> I can add a layer of abstraction

L94[16:00:39] <AfterLifeLochie> So all we have to do is @ComputerFunction(<name>)

L95[16:00:46] <Caitlyn> Oh?

L96[16:00:46] <AfterLifeLochie> And the wrappers will Do The Work.

L97[16:00:47] <Caitlyn> Neat..

L98[16:01:00] <Caitlyn> Since we return the same data for both mods it makes sense

L99[16:01:07] <AfterLifeLochie> Yep.

L100[16:01:08] <Caitlyn> atm it's just a bunch of duplication

L101[16:01:13] <AfterLifeLochie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyBNR8ThrNQ

L102[16:01:13] <MichiBot> AfterLifeLochie: Machines should work; People should think | length 24s | rated 5.00/5.00 | 1075 views | by nelsonminar

L103[16:01:20] <AfterLifeLochie> Fantastically terrifying video is relevant.

L104[16:01:21] <Caitlyn> and that means more chances of me effing something up

L105[16:01:24] <AfterLifeLochie> Thanks IBM.

L106[16:01:32] <Caitlyn> lol

L107[16:01:41] <AfterLifeLochie> This is how IBM marketed their new products in the old days.

L108[16:01:50] <AfterLifeLochie> New dictation products, printers, transcription tools, etc.

L109[16:01:56] <AfterLifeLochie> I'll find the full clip

L111[16:02:07] <AfterLifeLochie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IZw2CoYztk

L112[16:02:07] <MichiBot> AfterLifeLochie: "Paperwork Explosion" | length 4m 59s | rated 4.99/5.00 | 78075 views | by hensoncompany

L113[16:02:11] <Caitlyn> wtf

L114[16:02:11] <Caitlyn> lol

L115[16:02:19] <AfterLifeLochie> It's very.. yeah.

L116[16:02:23] <Caitlyn> IBM No...

L117[16:02:26] <Caitlyn> IBM stahp

L118[16:02:37] <AfterLifeLochie> The full clip makes some more sense.

L119[16:02:42] <AfterLifeLochie> But the farmer guy is.. strange. :p

L120[16:03:16] <Caitlyn> loool

L121[16:03:19] <Caitlyn> yeaah

L122[16:03:28] <AfterLifeLochie> "Paperwork explosion! *BOOM*".

L123[16:03:37] <Caitlyn> the 60's man

L124[16:03:40] <Caitlyn> the 60's...

L125[16:03:41] <AfterLifeLochie> IKR?

L126[16:03:58] <AfterLifeLochie> So yeah, when you hear the line "Do The Work"

L127[16:04:02] <AfterLifeLochie> Now you know where it comes from. :p

L128[16:04:05] <Caitlyn> lol

L129[16:04:32] <AfterLifeLochie> Ironically, that clip was sampled into a music track.

L130[16:05:57] <Caitlyn> I think I want a refund

L131[16:06:26] <AfterLifeLochie> It's great, right? :D

L132[16:06:46] <Caitlyn> I need a refund and a fucking adult

L133[16:06:48] <Caitlyn> that's what I need.

L134[16:06:52] <AfterLifeLochie> From 3:36 to 4:32 was sampled.

L135[16:06:56] <AfterLifeLochie> Into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUDKGyXpitw

L136[16:06:57] <MichiBot> AfterLifeLochie: Machines Can Do The Work by Fatboy Slim Vs Hervé (Live Visuals).mov | length 5m 3s | rated 4.90/5.00 | 240990 views | by officialfatboyslim

L137[16:07:12] <AfterLifeLochie> It's fantastic.

L138[16:07:15] <Caitlyn> HA

L139[16:07:18] <Caitlyn> Nice....

L140[16:07:26] <AfterLifeLochie> So yeah, gg wp IBM.

L141[16:07:37] <AfterLifeLochie> One of the most horrific advertisements I've ever seen

L142[16:07:42] <AfterLifeLochie> But at the same time, the single most catchy one.

L143[16:09:25] <Caitlyn> lol

L144[16:12:07] <AfterLifeLochie> I really don't know how I'm going to go with 1.8.

L145[16:13:13] <Caitlyn> 1.8 is a cluster fuck

L146[16:13:24] <AfterLifeLochie> Lex isn't really helping that either.

L147[16:13:29] <AfterLifeLochie> If coremods disappear, we're up shit creek too.

L148[16:13:40] <AfterLifeLochie> At which point I will probably be responsible for breaking out of FML.

L149[16:13:48] <Caitlyn> they won't

L150[16:13:57] <Caitlyn> <@LexManos> Coremods: I fucking hate them, but they are a nessasary evil. Forge will NEVER nativly support sush things as the Rift. As such Coremods to add cool new features are great. However I hate how they are used by some people in the community to screw things up. So, do i wish I could moderate them so that only those who have a good reason to do them use them? Yes. Can I, or will I ever do anything that prevents people from making

L151[16:13:58] <Caitlyn> <@LexManos> Coremods? No Will I take steps to protect FML from coremodding? Possibly, I have not decided yet, but if I do it will ONLY be FML/Forge as there are proper channels to go through if you want changes made to them.

L152[16:14:09] <AfterLifeLochie> Uh, you realize now that cpw is gone, there's nobody to stop him?

L153[16:14:33] <Caitlyn> we don't coremod to modify FML/Forge...

L154[16:14:34] <Caitlyn> so

L155[16:14:42] <AfterLifeLochie> Actually, in 1.8 we might have to, so.

L156[16:14:42] <Caitlyn> We're safe if he holds to that

L157[16:14:47] <Caitlyn> Why?

L158[16:15:05] <AfterLifeLochie> Because of the clusterfuck which is client-side rendering.

L159[16:15:16] <AfterLifeLochie> Stencilbuffers are now really restricted things.

L160[16:15:19] <Caitlyn> theres been a couple of PRs merged for models and stuff recently

L161[16:15:28] <Caitlyn> IDK what all has changed though

L162[16:15:37] <AfterLifeLochie> Pretty much everything.

L163[16:15:57] <Caitlyn> No, I meant with the recent PRs :P

L164[16:16:00] <AfterLifeLochie> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaCraft/blob/master/src/main/java/lc/client/opengl/BufferTexture.java

L165[16:16:06] <AfterLifeLochie> This would become impossible.

L166[16:16:39] <AfterLifeLochie> I think he thinks that the majority of people are dumb and therefore have no idea how to work opengl.

L167[16:16:51] <AfterLifeLochie> When you forget that Mojang are the ones using immediate rendering the whole freaking time.

L168[16:17:05] <AfterLifeLochie> With very little buffering or caching up until recently.

L170[16:18:54] <AfterLifeLochie> Going forward, I think things are going to get messy.

L171[16:19:07] <AfterLifeLochie> I'll have to figure out how to do painted blocks again too... right after I got that working. :x

L172[16:21:07] <Caitlyn> lol fml..

L173[16:21:21] <Caitlyn> I switched my settings dialog to a modal.. and couldn't close it

L174[16:21:34] <Caitlyn> turns out I was calling settings.setVisible(true); which was reopening it after it closed

L175[16:21:46] <AfterLifeLochie> lol

L176[16:22:38] <Caitlyn> On the plus side http://puu.sh/fojxl/266509050c.png it's starting to work..

L177[16:23:26] <AfterLifeLochie> woot :D

L178[16:23:54] <Caitlyn> gson was being a bitch... I switched to org.json...

L179[16:24:04] <Caitlyn> and 8 lines later I had a working display

L180[16:24:11] <Caitlyn> and 4 of those 8 were setting the variables

L181[16:28:48] <Caitlyn> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/80662/i-cant-access-websites-that-use-https-instead-getting-the-message-your-connec this is effing nuts

L182[16:29:10] <AfterLifeLochie> Yeah

L183[16:29:13] <AfterLifeLochie> That's common actually.

L184[16:29:37] <Caitlyn> ISPs MITMing https by *requiring* customers to install their CA?

L185[16:29:43] <AfterLifeLochie> Yeah

L186[16:29:44] <AfterLifeLochie> :P

L187[16:29:45] <Caitlyn> I know companys and stuff can do so

L188[16:29:48] <Caitlyn> but entire ISPs?

L189[16:29:49] <Caitlyn> fuck that

L190[16:29:54] <Caitlyn> someone would get shot 'round here

L193[16:37:57] <AfterLifeLochie> "I DETEST the idea of giving modders direct access and encouragement to use GL directly. There should be a better way."

L194[16:37:59] <AfterLifeLochie> Yay.

L195[16:38:44] <Caitlyn> o_O

L196[16:39:08] <AfterLifeLochie> I'm looking at all the pull requests for 1.8 FML

L197[16:39:45] <AfterLifeLochie> "You can't use techne or Wavefront models for Items anymore as of now."

L198[16:46:14] <AfterLifeLochie> Yeah, there's either going to be a lot of mods writing ASM hooks and patches

L199[16:46:17] <AfterLifeLochie> Or they just won't update.

L200[17:00:54] <Caitlyn> Syntax error on token ";", { expected after this token

L201[17:00:54] <Caitlyn> wat

L202[17:02:34] <AfterLifeLochie> lol

L203[17:13:39] <Caitlyn> Ugh LC.com expires in 14 days..

L204[17:13:45] <Caitlyn> wonder if my taxes will get here before then :D