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L7[11:37:53] <darsie> 1337
L8[14:55:05] <xxcoder> !mission
L9[14:55:05] <LunchBot> You fix loads of bugs in your craft, but on takeoff they all shake loose and start biting Jeb. A new "rescue-a-kerbal" contract is now available, featuring you as the rescuee-to-be.
L10[14:55:21] <xxcoder> lol
L11[14:55:44] <xxcoder> https://www.arctic-tek.com/store/products/mini-compressor-qx1901vdl-12v-63e0cc7d-66bf-42e8-b025-52fc581e0c64
L12[14:55:58] <xxcoder> this was being discussed in other channel. first thing I thought was...
L13[14:56:00] <xxcoder> "what, is this ac for ants?"
L14[14:59:53] <FLHerne> probably better for fridges
L15[15:00:23] <xxcoder> it IS for those. mini refs
L16[15:00:57] <xxcoder> guy was thinking of making mini portable ac to stay cool while working
L17[15:01:12] <xxcoder> ac suit basically
L18[15:03:03] <Mat2ch> can't be in Germany, you wouldn't be allowed to work with R134A...
L19[15:03:23] <xxcoder> nope
L20[15:04:31] <Mat2ch> https://www.arctic-tek.com/small-dc-a-c they have pre-filled ones as well.
L21[15:05:18] <xxcoder> sharing link
L22[15:06:38] <Mat2ch> they have compressors for Propane as well. But even that isn't allowed to refill yourself here. But 11 kg of propane in a bottle in the living room is fine.
L23[15:07:08] <Mat2ch> I wonder what law they will invent for the CO_2 compressors.
L24[15:07:11] <Mat2ch> Too much pressure?
L25[15:08:04] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: hm, you can get it here still
L26[15:13:44] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: in Germany you are not allowed to work on ACs without being a professional with the training to do so
L27[15:13:55] <Mat2ch> that was ok for the refrigerants that have a huge impact on the climate
L28[15:14:32] <Mat2ch> but with propane this wasn't the case anymore. So they invented a new law, because propane is flammable and it could result in a fire
L29[15:14:43] <Mat2ch> but having an open gas stove in the kitchen isn't a problem
L30[15:17:18] <xxcoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjRoThMyNGA
L31[15:17:28] <xxcoder> interesting. pulse supercooling
L32[15:17:30] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: well, you do need a qualification to work on gas stoves
L33[15:17:44] <xxcoder> its makable even in germany
L34[15:18:04] <FLHerne> and modern gas stoves with flame-failure cutoffs are relatively hard to cause to leak as a user
L35[15:20:57] <FLHerne> it's odd here, in principle it's illegal to work with HFCs without training, but also you can buy HFC refill canisters off the shelf in car parts shops
L36[15:21:18] <FLHerne> I think they only actually care if it's commercial
L37[15:24:01] <Mat2ch> But in gas stoves you have a lot more gas running through than in an AC unit.
L38[15:24:09] <Mat2ch> We're talking about 500g of Propane here. Max.
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L42[16:38:59] <FLHerne> 500g of propane in a room is quite enough to blow your house up
L43[16:42:25] <FLHerne> hm, I'm not sure I calculated that right
L44[16:44:45] <Mat2ch> but even if the AC is leaking, it wouldn't leak out all at once
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L51[19:15:26] <Mat2ch> !outcome add You didn't just burn it all. You uploaded it to the cloud!
L52[19:15:26] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You didn't just burn it all. You uploaded it to the cloud!
L53[19:20:00] <Mat2ch> !mission
L54[19:20:00] <LunchBot> You sacrifice a troll to the Kraken. Not even the astrobaras can save this mission.
L55[19:20:20] <Mat2ch> Not even another troll?
L56[20:02:08] <raptop> ...nothing needs saving. The troll has been Dealt With.
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