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L8[05:50:47] <LunchBot> Added mission: You have a stroke, and instead of smelling toast... you begin to hear elevator music.

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L27[17:41:19] <raptop> !outcome add Technically your mission report is a valid email address, so at least something went right.

L28[17:41:19] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Technically your mission report is a valid email address, so at least something went right.

L29[17:44:53] <raptop> !choose science car|car of shame

L30[17:44:53] <LunchBot> science car

L31[17:45:59] <raptop> Eh, it's mostly a car of shame (because the player either has the resources but not the skills to go to Minmus, or they're iffy on the skills and *badly* misspent points)

L32[17:46:36] <raptop> Though at 10% rewards its possible that one might have a legitimate use with comparatively unhinged designs with no wheels

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L35[20:41:22] <FLHerne> raptop: is this the one for getting KSC science?

L36[20:41:53] <FLHerne> I usually build one, you have all that science _right there_ so it seems silly not to

L37[20:48:49] <packbart> linuxgurugamer called this his emergency bank :) https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/169690-112x-kei-kerbin-environmental-institute/

L38[20:49:05] <packbart> (KSC science points at the click of a button)

L39[20:49:54] <raptop> It is. Part of this is that the first landing gear is in the same tier as the LV-909

L40[20:50:21] <raptop> And powered translation wheels are even farther

L41[20:52:15] <packbart> I remember this thing. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspsc1.jpg

L43[21:33:39] <Mat2ch> packbart: lol

L44[21:33:53] <Mat2ch> KSP really brought out the best ideas

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L47[22:03:42] <FLHerne> raptop: I used to build LV-909-powered cars :p

L48[22:03:54] <FLHerne> I think the small jet engines are better now

L49[22:04:25] <FLHerne> .mission translation wheel

L50[22:04:25] <LunchBot> Inspired by the spinny disk thing used in reaction wheels and turbopumps, Wernher invents the "translation wheel". It's an ingenious device to travel on the surface without exploding so often!

L51[22:04:52] <FLHerne> I do still find the KSP progression tree completely insane

L52[22:05:28] <FLHerne> they do literally have rocket engines before ladders, and turbopumps before the wheel

L53[22:15:26] <raptop> if you count the Mk1 capsule, they also have reaction wheels before translation wheels

L54[22:15:38] <raptop> (if you don't they're at the same tech level)

L55[22:16:00] <FLHerne> I do count that

L56[22:16:20] <FLHerne> as someone pointed out you can roll the Mk1 capsule around as a wheel if you really want

L57[22:17:28] <packbart> I think I plugged two of them together. it's a weird spindle drive

L58[22:17:35] <raptop> Incidentally, jetpacks and parachutes for the kerbals are also available before ladders

L59[22:17:53] <raptop> Which feels like some TF2 logic