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L11[09:08:29] <Mat2ch> xxcoder: The logic error is: You have to lift the hose as well ;)

L12[09:35:11] <darsie> Deliver propellant to a flying rocket with a hose?

L13[09:35:48] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFJVw9eT0M

L19[15:13:52] <xxcoder> Mat2ch: indeed, though maybe shorter hose, counterweighted, attached to pole as tall as can be lol

L20[15:26:16] <Mat2ch> xxcoder: What about adding a flying gas station to the rocket?

L21[15:26:37] <xxcoder> lol

L24[16:31:37] <Althego> as i heard, one american politician held back orbital refueling for decades

L25[16:37:05] <xxcoder> yeah? what was rationale?

L26[16:39:20] <Althego> money

L27[16:57:54] <KrazyKrl> ;outcome add Will there be survivors? Will Jeb ever get to land on Jool? Will they ever figure out why the astronaut complex smells like that? Find out next mission on Missionball-K!

L28[16:57:55] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Will there be survivors? Will Jeb ever get to land on Jool? Will they ever figure out why the astronaut complex smells like that? Find out next mission on Missionball-K!

L29[17:02:24] <xxcoder> lol

L30[17:03:22] <xxcoder> new silly fuel hose idea: geostationary fuel tank in space supplying fuel to rocket as it rockets up lol. reeling in hose so rock dont have to drag it up

L31[17:04:10] <xxcoder> rocket

L32[17:09:51] <Mat2ch> We are so close to space elevators here. Soooooooo close

L33[17:10:12] <xxcoder> one difference here is hose only have to support itself

L34[17:10:22] <xxcoder> which is still huge problem lol

L35[17:16:12] <packbart> not to mention that long hose crashing through all the satellites on lower orbits that happen to be in the way :)

L36[17:16:23] <xxcoder> indeed

L37[17:16:53] <xxcoder> if we ever figure portals, even if limited to 1 cm hole diameter, it would be world changing

L38[17:17:01] <xxcoder> rocket that dont carry its fuel

L39[17:17:12] <xxcoder> fuel is like 99.99% of mass lol

L40[17:17:25] <KrazyKrl> i mean... if you take kerosene at 0.8g/cm^3, atmospheric pressure could support 8334.7598 cm^3 of it... which means you only need a cylinder with a diameter of about 17 nanometers to suck kerosene into geostationary orbit.

L41[17:17:39] <packbart> aye. laser data transmission through portals

L42[17:17:47] <xxcoder> indeed

L43[17:18:09] <xxcoder> voyagers, but you can have data now

L44[17:18:27] <xxcoder> with tiny enough computer modules, even computer-wise upgradable

L45[17:19:06] <packbart> the time differential could be a problem, though, if time moves significantly slower or faster on the other side of the portal

L46[17:19:15] <packbart> I wouldn't want to stick an arm through it

L47[17:19:41] <xxcoder> yeah. sad its extremely abstract and have no real connection to known physics

L48[17:20:08] <packbart> wormholes that connect absolute coordinates in the universe would be a bit useless, too

L49[17:20:30] <packbart> you'd have to brake down from galactic speed, travel through the hole and then get up to the speed of your destination again

L50[17:20:48] <xxcoder> dangerous too, if one was formed in front of earth, its travel direction wise

L51[17:21:22] <packbart> yeah. so, warp drives it is then

L52[17:21:48] <xxcoder> its also why time machines probably is very dangerous

L53[17:23:10] <KrazyKrl> the other problem is the fact that the portal also transmits gravity and causality.

L54[17:23:34] <xxcoder> you guys have been following that portals youtube channel?

L55[17:23:56] <xxcoder> they recently released spheric portal video and it was interesting

L56[17:24:28] <xxcoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1W6zVJ7Yow

L57[17:24:40] <xxcoder> probably want to watch earlier videos first though

L58[17:26:34] <xxcoder> guy dont attempt to sell it as real or anything, they are just trying to play around and try design consient math logic around portals

L59[17:27:22] <xxcoder> I would laugh so hard if portals was discovered.. and it works exactly same as the axioms that video author figured out lol

L60[17:27:39] <xxcoder> also means sadly, no infinite free energy

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