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L9[05:31:59] <Death> finally picked up KSP
and man my brain is not built for hjklni
L10[05:35:38] <Althego> only used for
docking
L11[05:35:50] <Althego> but that is hard
already
L12[05:36:06] <Althego> remember dockign is
so hard nasa failed the first time
L13[05:38:07] <Death> only used for docking
and even then there's docking mode.
L14[05:38:47] <Althego> i never understood
what the reason for docking mode was
L15[05:38:51] <Althego> never used it
L16[05:39:58] <Death> functionally, it
makes wasd<shift><ctrl> be hjklni, i think?
L17[05:42:25] <Death> which also means
i'm less likely to accidentally <shift> myself into the
other craft.
L18[06:42:51] <Death> on my 10th or so
attempt at orbital flight (in career mode) and the new biggest
annoyance is that "space" isn't "go
faster". i've now lost 3 orbital candidates at apoapsis
because i hit space instead of z
L19[07:19:03] <FLHerne> Death: oops
L20[07:19:30] <FLHerne> I've
definitely done that before, but not for a while
L21[07:19:56] <Death> good news! i got into
orbit.
L22[07:20:08] <FLHerne>
congratulations
L23[07:20:08] <Death> bad news! i stayed in
orbit.
L24[07:20:31] <FLHerne> lol, time for Jeb
to get out and push
L25[07:20:44] <Althego> hehe
L26[07:20:46] <FLHerne> (believe it or not
that can actually work)
L27[07:20:55] <Althego> yes, you can
actually push it back into the atmosphere
L28[07:20:59] <Althego> a bit hard to
do
L29[07:21:09] <Death> that's??
what's he pushing off of?
L30[07:21:11] <Death> newton, help?
L31[07:21:20] <Althego> but every time you
go back into the cabin, the suit rcs system is refilled for
free
L33[07:21:37] <FLHerne> Death: mysteriously
infinite jetpack propellant
L34[07:21:39] <Death> was gonna say, no
amount of monopropellant in the world could do that
L35[07:21:50] <Death> but also... i
didn't have astronauts leveled up yet.
L36[07:21:54] <Death> was saving up to get
maneuvers
L37[07:21:55] <Althego> heh
L38[07:22:03] <Althego> they are fine up
there
L39[07:22:09] <Althego> you can get them
later
L40[07:22:26] <Death> i ended up
restarting. doesn't hurt to get practice in.
L41[07:22:40] <Death> (but... i'm not
practicing matching orbits again. that can wait.)
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L46[08:44:12] <Mat2ch> I managed to have
KSA run yesterday. Looks great, feels great, but needs a lot of
polishing
L47[08:46:26] <Althego> it is very early
access
L48[08:47:13] <Mat2ch> Oh yes
L49[08:47:30] <Mat2ch> And my gpu was
screaming because of the load :D
L50[08:50:37] <Death> honestly my
impatience for KSA to be a lot more polished is what got me to just
go for KSP
L51[08:57:02] <Mat2ch> KSP is fine if you
want to fly around in small crafts.
L52[08:57:28] <Mat2ch> It will annoy you if
you go for huge stations or crafts to go around the Kerbol
system
L53[09:15:11] <Death> ya i got space
engineers for that, i just really wanted something that felt like
"lower tech" space travel, orbital science, etc.
L54[10:27:02] <FLHerne> yeah, KSP is still
a great game
L55[10:27:07] <FLHerne> are you 1 or
2?
L56[10:28:37] <FLHerne> .mission
L57[10:28:37] <LunchBot> You invent and
deploy a virally-distributed antihypoxiant that will make Kerbals
almost impossible to kill. You watch powerlessly as Danny2462
destroys Kerbin again.
L58[10:29:00] <FLHerne>
'almost'
L59[10:29:08] <Althego> hehe
L60[10:29:16] <Althego> almost, aside from
danny
L61[10:32:13] <Death> ksp 1
L62[10:32:41] <Death> i misstaged my stage2
again :(
L63[10:33:21] <Mat2ch> you can lock
stages
L64[10:33:23] <Death> this time was a bad
build, not pilot error
L65[10:33:26] <Mat2ch> so the space
doesn't work
L66[10:33:38] <Death> i thought i had split
up radials from stage 2
L67[10:33:47] <Death> i had not, i
suppose.
L69[10:35:39] <Mat2ch> Dang, 8 years
ago
L70[10:35:51] <Mat2ch> I have heard it once
or twice, but still remember it
L71[10:36:43] <FLHerne> I always found it
funny when some staging blunder caused my SRBs to fire off into the
distance like missiles
L72[10:37:18] <FLHerne> easily done with
how minor craft edits can mess up the staging order
L73[10:37:39] <Death> yeah i added an extra
fuel and for some reason that did it
L74[10:39:21] <Death> damn. i got into
orbit. forgot my drogues. should be fine. i hope.
L75[10:39:36] <Death> i'll just go
broadside in atmo to burn speed lmao
L76[10:39:38] <Mat2ch> drogues are a
gimmick mostly.
L77[10:40:00] <Mat2ch> if you have a
regular capsule it will generate so much drag you will only need
the regular parachutes
L78[10:43:20] <Death> y'know, i
thought i was going overkill with heat shield for low orbit
L79[10:43:40] <Death> but i was heavy
enough w/ only one parachute (and the +2 capsule, which is why i
was worried) that it actually broke the shield
L80[10:43:49] <Death> BUT didn't break
the cabin
L81[10:43:59] <Althego> drogues are great
on duna, because they open early
L82[10:44:52] <Althego> also in unlucky
cases they can still help you, i usually clip one tiny drogue under
the normal one
L83[10:45:40] <Althego> on normal 100%
heating, heat shield is not too useful for low kerbin orbit.
because of that i normally dial up heating to the max, 120%, then
it becomes useful
L84[10:46:26] <Mat2ch> Even from Mun I
hardly use any heat shield.
L85[10:46:43] <Mat2ch> But most of the time
I have some spare fuel and do a short breaking manouver as
well
L86[10:49:14] <Death> yeah i felt like
braking maneuvers felt like overkill coming from Mun. i had a lot
of fuel extra, i could actually end up in a low orbit around...
kerbal earth
L87[10:49:25] <Death> kerbin. that's
the name.
L88[10:49:48] <Althego> you always need a
bit of extra fuel anyway for piloting error
L89[10:50:57] <Death> yeah but enough to go
from Mun to Kerbin orbit seemed like a bit much
L90[10:50:58] <FLHerne> .outcome add
Declaring "Never Again!" you establish a comprehensive
multi-level regulatory framework to prevent a repeat. It never
happens again, but nor does anything else.
L91[10:50:58] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Declaring "Never Again!" you establish a comprehensive
multi-level regulatory framework to prevent a repeat. It never
happens again, but nor does anything else.
L92[10:51:03] <Death> but it got me back,
so. /shrug
L93[10:52:10] <Death> I guess I should
start throwing up satellites tomorrow.
L95[10:56:01] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: That
doesn't look safe at all!
L96[10:56:19] <Mat2ch> I remember Davids
video about crossing some delta and even that didn't feel
right.
L97[10:56:49] <Mat2ch> I've been on
boats on the sea before, but all of them were built very
differently to a narrow boat
L98[11:09:05] <FLHerne> .outcome add
You'd have asked someone to hold your beer, but you're in
microgravity so it just floats there.
L99[11:09:05] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You'd have asked someone to hold your beer, but you're in
microgravity so it just floats there.
L100[11:09:43] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: yeah,
narrowboat hulls aren't really the right shape for waves
L101[11:10:35] <FLHerne> they tend to be
very stable (too stable, really) until there's enough swell
for the baseplate to come out of the water, and then they slam up
and down horribly
L102[11:11:04] <Mat2ch> that video looked
like slamming up and down horribly
L103[11:11:18] <Mat2ch> they
should've waited for better conditions before trying
that
L104[11:11:47] <FLHerne> agreed on both
counts
L105[11:12:07] <FLHerne> Emma is coming
back the other way this morning and it should be smoother
L106[11:12:16] <FLHerne> hm, actually she
should be at sea now
L107[11:14:11] <Mat2ch> no AIS? ;)
L108[11:14:31] <FLHerne> it wouldn't
get much use on a narrowboat
L109[11:14:49] <Mat2ch> I know :)
L110[11:14:51] <FLHerne> the only inland
boats I know have it are the Casper River barges
L111[11:15:05] <FLHerne> which are
basically narrowboats but scaled up 3x in each dimension
L112[11:15:41] <Mat2ch> probably using the
service to keep track of the boats
L113[11:15:51] <Mat2ch> it's
commercial, I guess
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L116[11:17:01] <FLHerne> yes, and
occasionally they work down to Hull or Grimsby where it's
required
L117[11:17:24] <FLHerne> hm, might be
required for large craft on the lower Trent even
L118[11:19:22] <Mat2ch> if I remember
correctly you can get AIS senders as small as handheld radios
L119[11:19:45] <Mat2ch> might be something
to consider when crossing a large body of water
L120[11:27:04] <Mat2ch> well, the smallest
thing for this is not handheld and expensive. Wow
L121[11:27:12] <Mat2ch> ok, it's
marine tech. Everything is expensive there
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L134[16:18:29] <raptop> !mission
L135[16:18:29] <LunchBot> You collide a
Proton and an Electron rocket in the hopes of speeding up the
Neutron R&D process. You fail so hard that all the energy above
absolute hot breaks the fabric of spacetime and invades another
universe.
L136[16:21:44] <Mat2ch> What do we learn
from this? Never bring a Proton and an Electron rocket too close to
each other.
L137[16:23:33] <raptop> Peter Beck:
accidental supervillan
L138[16:24:11] <Althego> remember elon
used to have twitter picture with a pinky at his mouth holding a
plush cat
L139[16:24:22] <Althego> so he is the
intentional one then
L140[20:06:20] <Mat2ch> !mission
L141[20:06:20] <LunchBot> You have your
software team start vibe-coding the mission-critical software.
Bill, Bob, Jeb, and Val take one look at your rocket and all
promptly tender their resignations.
L142[20:06:39] <Althego> lol
L143[20:06:42] <Althego> as they
shoul
L144[20:06:55] <Mat2ch> I'd run as
well. Fast and wide.
L145[20:07:04] <Mat2ch> *Fast and
far.
L146[20:07:18] <Althego> which is also the
recommended method against metal fires
L147[20:08:10] <Mat2ch> Metal fires are
better than vibe-coded software.
L148[20:08:26] <Althego> at least they
burn out at some point
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L150[20:13:03] <Mat2ch> Althego gets
it...
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