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L17[09:53:02] <Deddly> !mission

L18[09:53:02] <LunchBot> You ask someone what is their K/D on KSP. Bill whines like a coil for the whole mission.

L20[09:54:52] <Mat2ch> looks like Bill got PTSD...

L21[09:55:19] <Deddly> Yeah. Bill appears to have some latent memories from his previous lives.

L22[09:55:41] <Althego> hehe

L23[09:56:15] <Deddly> Reminds me of some high-speed rover testing I was doing once. Every time the craft exploded, I would quickload and the pilot would be screaming

L24[09:56:40] <Althego> lol

L25[09:57:10] <Deddly> It happened over and over

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L31[11:30:46] <packbart> I have this ancient screenshot from bug report tests that poofed Bill Kerman over and over again. :) https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspbx.jpg

L32[11:31:09] <packbart> changing some physics tick settings caused Bill to load into the scene before the atmosphere or something like that

L33[11:31:24] <Althego> lol

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L41[14:53:14] <Deddly> !mission

L42[14:53:14] <LunchBot> You consult with Lunchbot to launch a new startup. You are trapped in a time loop.

L43[14:53:30] <Deddly> !startup

L44[14:53:30] <LunchBot> Chainsaw made from Fully Recyclable Plastic

L45[15:10:50] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4XiALgZ7Hc

L46[15:11:07] <Mat2ch> so wild to see mods still being released for KSP1

L47[15:11:30] <Mat2ch> I did a Mun mission a few days ago. I didn't bring enough fuel...

L48[15:21:46] <packbart> why not? nobody can release their idea as KSA mod, yet and KSP2 sort of fizzled out

L49[15:22:59] <packbart> it also helps that KSP1 is stable now and last year's mod release still works, etc

L50[15:50:46] <darsie> packbart: ppl can and do make mods for KSA. I guess. There are modding forums: https://forums.ahwoo.com/

L51[15:51:07] <Deddly> Very cool.

L52[16:16:05] <packbart> darsie: yeah, but KSA itself isn't quite where KSP1 is now

L53[16:16:16] <darsie> mhm

L54[16:16:49] <Deddly> I downloaded the first release of KSA but it doesn't work on my machine

L55[16:16:58] <darsie> They churn out new versions frequently. Gotta run the newest one ...

L56[16:17:17] <darsie> Don't see much difference. Don't read the release notes much.

L58[16:56:08] <xxcoder> "You anger Batman. This really rocks Newton's cradle." what am I, Joker?

L63[17:32:51] <KrazyKrl> Fun fact: Plastic isn't recycled because the ethane that comes as a byproduct of methane production is close to 1/10 the cost of recycling.

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L67[18:04:41] <Mat2ch> KrazyKrl: most plastic types are hard to recycle as well. If you think about regular packaging, it's usually a layer of multiple plastics which all have different properties and cannot be simply separated.

L68[18:04:48] <Mat2ch> PET on the other hand is easy to reuse

L69[19:01:57] <packbart> Plasma it all and let the massdiribitor sort out the elements

L70[19:14:53] <Mat2ch> the current way is to just burn it and let the trees make new cellulose out of it...

L71[19:23:50] <packbart> I was thinking of a more general mattter recycler in space. Dump loads of entropy into it, then let the recombined stuff somehow spread into different orbits by mass. Magic.

L72[19:24:42] <Mat2ch> have you thought about a black hole to solve all your problems?

L73[19:24:53] <Mat2ch> !mission add You create a black hole to solve all your problems.

L74[19:24:53] <LunchBot> Added mission: You create a black hole to solve all your problems.

L75[19:25:06] <packbart> nah, we don't get anything back from a black hole. well, nothing much usable.

L76[19:25:31] <packbart> I am already concerned by all those space probes carrying rare metals off into deep space, never to return to earth

L77[19:26:04] <packbart> not that vaporizing gold in the atmosphere makes it any more usable but at least it stays here! :)

L78[19:29:42] <Mat2ch> it's tiny compared to what amounts we have on earth

L79[19:30:06] <Mat2ch> also we might some day go space mining and bring stuff back

L80[19:31:28] <packbart> well, they say that about Jupiter's orbital energy, too. I tell ya, we have one probe too many swing by a gas giant and finally brake it down into our orbit!1

L81[19:31:36] <packbart> numerically, that is a sound concern

L82[19:32:02] <Mat2ch> hehe

L83[19:35:48] <packbart> so according to the automated search summary, the metal fog from vaporized spacecraft stays in the upper atmosphere for years

L84[19:36:06] <packbart> no chance of iron-plated leaves down here. nor new gold veins, either

L85[19:38:00] <packbart> entropy only ever goes up

L86[19:41:26] <packbart> "Recent research suggests we are inadvertently building a conductive shell around the planet."

L87[19:42:40] <packbart> well, at least them aliens won't be able to zap us inside our Faraday Planet

L88[19:50:48] <packbart> "We are effectively conducting an uncontrolled geoengineering experiment, and we won't see the full results (the "Phase 3" effects on magnetic fields and ozone) until the mid-century." - Now the chatbot got me concerned! Better close the session...

L89[19:51:52] <packbart> !mission

L90[19:51:53] <LunchBot> Your space center gets searched for contraband rocket parts. This is so successful that you're promoted to management. You sit at your comfortable, safe desk - far away from any explosions or toxic chemicals - and try to convince yourself it's a win.

L91[19:52:42] <packbart> I don't know why or how but ok.

L93[20:07:03] <Mat2ch> No contraband rocket parts found, because you hid them very well

L95[20:48:00] <packbart> well, I upgraded from hiding the toxic chemicals

L96[20:48:31] <packbart> (usually, I hid them in large explosions)

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L115[22:30:44] <xxcoder> muhahaha A self-help book tells you to never look back. This seems wise, because all the things you might crash into are in front of you. Putting your rocket into reverse actually made the problems worse.

L116[22:32:13] <raptop> That's a good combo

L117[22:32:29] <xxcoder> yep

L118[22:41:44] <raptop> The bot has Wickwick event entries, though I guess that's no longer possible

L119[22:41:47] <raptop> probably

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