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L27[11:04:23] <Mat2ch> https://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-025-01104-x

L28[11:04:29] <Mat2ch> Sooooooon we will be all made of plastic

L29[11:19:07] <Althego> and forever chemicals

L30[11:37:00] <darsie> 1337

L31[11:37:28] <packbart> aye

L32[11:37:33] <packbart> !mission

L33[11:37:33] <LunchBot> You attempt to mutate some neutrinos. You spend hours writing a detailed mission report on the forum. It's going to be epic and worthy of a Thread of the Year award. Just as you post it, you get a 502 error and lose everything. You throw a tantrum, hurling heavy objects around. In your anger and dismay, you accidentally break your computer, so you lose the actual mission as well. You throw another tantrum and accidentally burn your house down. Now you're an

L34[11:38:01] <packbart> an what?

L35[11:38:23] <packbart> error: outcome too long for IRC

L36[11:39:00] <darsie> .outcome rock propulsion

L37[11:39:00] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "rock propulsion".

L38[11:39:05] <darsie> .mission rock propulsion

L39[11:39:05] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "rock propulsion".

L40[11:39:31] <packbart> launching on a Bass Booster?

L41[11:39:33] <darsie> .outcome add You run out of fuel on Gilly and revert to rock propulsion.

L42[11:39:33] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You run out of fuel on Gilly and revert to rock propulsion.

L43[11:40:08] <packbart> I like hard rock propulsion

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L62[16:18:55] <Silent_but_Deddly> LOL https://xkcd.com/3093/

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L65[16:27:11] <Mat2ch> !mission add You try to increase your dV by drafting in the exhaust stream of another rocket.

L66[16:27:11] <LunchBot> Added mission: You try to increase your dV by drafting in the exhaust stream of another rocket.

L67[16:40:19] <darsie> Is that a pun on delta formation flying?

L68[16:50:37] <packbart> truck drivers don't like that trick

L69[16:51:44] <packbart> driving closely behind a trailer is said to improve fuel efficiency but the driver can't see the car behind them

L70[16:52:48] <Mat2ch> darsie: it's this: https://xkcd.com/3093/

L71[17:02:24] <Silent_but_Deddly> Nice mission. Also, it really does improve fuel efficiency to drive very closely to a truck/bus. It makes a considerable difference at the cost of safety

L72[17:03:30] <Mat2ch> Technically a trailer does drive really close to the tractor as well...

L73[17:03:35] <Mat2ch> just sayin'

L74[17:03:37] <Mat2ch> ;)

L76[17:16:38] <Silent_but_Deddly> So the solution is to have a coupler at the back of the tailer that cars can link to

L77[17:17:30] <Mat2ch> Not the worst idea.

L78[17:17:41] <Mat2ch> But I guess we are reinventing the train here :D

L79[17:18:17] <xxcoder> wow thats easily the longest mission I ever saw

L80[17:18:52] <xxcoder> trmnl ksp mission outcome is now public lol dunno if any of you guys have it but yeah

L81[17:20:46] <Silent_but_Deddly> What's a trmnl?

L82[17:21:36] <Pinkbeast> Terrible Rocket May Never Launch

L83[17:22:10] <Althego> some kind of e-.ink thingie

L84[17:24:29] <xxcoder> yeah displays plugins. anything you want really. I have weather, ksp mission, rain chances, and random frame of space balls

L85[17:24:58] <Althego> how do the plugins work? bubary or script?

L86[17:25:01] <Althego> vinary

L87[17:25:03] <Althego> eg

L88[17:25:36] <xxcoder> I only made very basic ones, but you can build plugin to render and serve a picture

L89[17:25:55] <xxcoder> basic ones use liquid and html

L90[17:26:32] <xxcoder> ksp mission outcome simply grabs the text file for mission/outcome text contents

L91[17:27:47] <Althego> somehow i thought of balmer saying: developers developers developers developers developers

L92[17:29:43] <Pinkbeast> mushroom mushroom snake

L93[17:29:54] <xxcoder> LOL

L94[17:29:56] <Althego> badger badger badger badger

L95[17:30:33] <Althego> and i always think of the caldari transport ship and the amarr titan and the gallente iteron v

L96[17:32:06] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tweUF7juG4c

L97[17:33:09] <Silent_but_Deddly> Trmnl looks cool

L98[17:39:30] <darsie> Mat2ch: Is that a pun on delta formation flying?

L99[17:40:11] <darsie> Hmm, work for cars.

L100[17:42:42] <Silent_but_Deddly> darsie, it's a mission based on the latest xkcd

L101[17:42:44] <Silent_but_Deddly> https://xkcd.com/

L102[17:43:56] <darsie> I guess xkcd 3093 is a pun on delta formation flying.

L103[17:44:16] <Silent_but_Deddly> Naaw

L104[17:44:26] <Silent_but_Deddly> It's a joke based on drafting

L105[17:44:54] <Silent_but_Deddly> Drafting is driving close behind another vehicle to reduce wind resistance.

L106[17:45:03] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYyehE6GJRE

L107[17:45:08] <darsie> Kitten Space Agency: Just ripping off KSP or making things better? (Discussion)

L108[17:47:00] <darsie> What star system will KSA be? I guess they won't copy the Kerbolar system.

L109[17:47:21] <darsie> Solar system is probably too hard for many.

L110[17:48:15] <darsie> KSP like missions?

L111[17:50:04] <Silent_but_Deddly> Am I the only one who thinks that KSA and the KSP owners are likely still in talks with each other to perhaps work together on this? Not that I know anything behind the scenes, mind you.

L112[17:52:51] <xxcoder> it would be interesting if you could choose the system

L113[17:53:14] <xxcoder> from easy ksp-like system to one just below theorical limit of chemical engines, of 1.3g

L114[17:53:44] <xxcoder> found the longest mission period.

L115[17:53:45] <xxcoder> Bill begins a most heinous series of events, where the other orangesuits participate in a once-in-a-lifetime bout of sheer terror. Bill keeps fiddling, and the orangesuits begin to beg. Bill just won't stop curiously examining the object. If only Bill was not in a cramped command pod along with his crewmates... As Bill began opening the case labeled "LIVE BEES, DO NOT OPEN!"

L116[17:54:08] <Mat2ch> I just looked at the sourcecode of trmnl-display. It's basically an image viewer

L117[17:54:28] <Mat2ch> so something generates an image and the device displays it

L118[17:55:05] <xxcoder> packbart: congats! you did get the longest outcome. heres the whole one

L119[17:55:06] <xxcoder> You spend hours writing a detailed mission report on the forum. It's going to be epic and worthy of a Thread of the Year award. Just as you post it, you get a 502 error and lose everything. You throw a tantrum, hurling heavy objects around. In your anger and dismay, you accidentally break your computer, so you lose the actual mission as well. You throw another tantrum and accidentally burn your house down. Now you're angry.

L120[17:59:35] <Silent_but_Deddly> I think I wrote that one

L121[18:00:46] <Silent_but_Deddly> xxcoder, do you have a list of all of them, or what?

L122[18:00:58] <xxcoder> yeah downloaded mission.txt and outcome.txt

L123[18:01:29] <xxcoder> www.flherne.uk/hacks/missions.txt www.flherne.uk/hacks/outcomes.txt

L124[18:04:47] <Mat2ch> Do I want to use the power of grep to find all missions that don't end in a punctation mark?

L125[18:05:22] <xxcoder> as certain captain says, you have the power lol

L126[18:05:47] <Althego> the power is yours?

L127[18:05:54] <xxcoder> yep

L128[18:05:57] <Althego> i have the power is he man

L129[18:07:24] <xxcoder> yeah. would be funny if they ever met

L130[18:07:41] <xxcoder> "th power is yours" "I have the power"

L131[18:09:19] <xxcoder> ;mission add After certain captain tells you "The power is yours", you check if you can use it to launch rockets.

L132[18:09:19] <LunchBot> Added mission: After certain captain tells you "The power is yours", you check if you can use it to launch rockets.

L133[18:10:14] <Mat2ch> grep -E "^*\.$" -v missions.txt | grep -E "^*\!$" -v | grep -E "^*\?$" -v | grep -E "^*\"$" -v | wc -l

L134[18:10:16] <Mat2ch> only 60

L135[18:10:35] <xxcoder> not too bad, out of 2k or so

L136[18:10:45] <Mat2ch> uh, wait, that expression can get shorter

L137[18:13:40] <Mat2ch> grep -E '^*[\.|\!|\?|\\"]$' -v missions.txt

L138[18:14:06] <Mat2ch> by the power of regexp I force you to give me the lines!

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L140[18:16:46] <xxcoder> xkcd drafting HAH

L141[18:24:38] <Silent_but_Deddly> Hehe

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L147[20:59:13] <packbart> Mat2ch: so, trmnl is a worse info-beamer? ( https://info-beamer.com/ )

L148[21:00:09] <packbart> oh, I think a colleague of mine built something similar with an e-ink display

L149[21:00:33] <packbart> (I work in a IoT/Electronics design shop)

L150[21:06:20] <packbart> ( https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/1732731188301.jpg :)

L151[21:20:22] <Mat2ch> packbart: well, the question is what they are intending there. A device that is so low power that you need to recharge it every few weeks? Then displaying pictures is a good idea

L152[21:20:40] <Mat2ch> the cpu can sleep almost all the time, the e-ink display doesn't need any power

L153[21:42:03] <packbart> true true. Personally, I rarely have a need for static displays

L154[21:42:36] <packbart> I've got one that shows wireless temperature sensors in the neighbourhood ( https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/lcd/mqtt/ )

L155[21:42:54] <packbart> (rtl_433 running on the OpenWRT router)

L158[22:09:23] <Mat2ch> that's funny somehow

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L160[22:10:09] <Mat2ch> I have an ebook reader I sometimes use to show me recipes while cooking

L161[22:10:23] <Mat2ch> but that's it