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L10[02:46:46] <darsie> .outcome add Bob gets doored.

L11[02:46:46] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Bob gets doored.

L12[02:56:15] <xxcoder> backdoored 😳

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L39[09:21:08] *** Judge_DedD changes topic to ' Kerbal Space Program official channel | KSP2 current (final?) version: 0.2.2.0 | Rules: http://tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Backup channel is ##KSPOfficial on libera.chat | Forum is back up'

L40[09:37:38] <Judge_DedD> !mission

L41[09:37:38] <LunchBot> You try to make an emergency flare using one of the countless bicycle frames found on the Mun. Danny2462 steals all your kerbals.

L42[09:38:08] <Judge_DedD> I have so many questions

L43[09:39:16] <Judge_DedD> !mission fixup s/Mun/Mün/

L44[09:39:16] <LunchBot> New text is: You try to make an emergency flare using one of the countless bicycle frames found on the Mün.

L45[09:40:07] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: as I said, I want an option: Keep this empty! :)

L46[09:40:35] <Mat2ch> The rescue mission isn't hard, landing on Pol is easy. The transfer times and getting the encounters right are the annoying part.

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L51[10:34:02] <sandbox> !mission

L52[10:34:02] <LunchBot> You refer to the EAS-1 External Command Seat as the "comfy chair". ed is no longer the standard editor.

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L57[10:58:09] <Izzy> I gather there was a new POSIX version recently, and it mandates the latest version of C rather than like, C89

L58[10:59:13] <Izzy> I know the jab doesn't land any more now that clang exists but maybe a certain POSIX-compliant desktop OS will finally update their gcc from 2003? :p

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L73[13:20:53] <Mat2ch> "Build an outpost on Gilly". Yes, where's the rope to strap it down?

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L76[13:31:25] <Althego> there is an element that can anchor something down

L77[13:31:54] <Althego> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Stamp-O-Tron_Ground_Anchor

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L79[13:37:01] <Judge_DedD> !mission

L80[13:37:01] <LunchBot> You invent a time machine powered by consuming alternate universes that "probably don't want to exist so much." You become distressed upon learning that Darth Kerman is your father.

L81[13:37:29] <Judge_DedD> That would be in keeping with my character, apparently.

L82[13:49:18] <Judge_DedD> I wonder why I wouldn't blink an eye at the thought of eradicating untold billions of lives and yet be surprised to learn that my parents weren't shining examples of humanity.

L83[13:50:09] <Althego> hehe

L84[13:50:12] <Althego> darth kerman

L85[13:57:01] <Mat2ch> Althego: I think you need a Kerbal to put it there and you can't just place it remotely

L86[13:57:18] <Mat2ch> "To use the Ground Anchor, a Kerbal must equip it in their inventory when going on EVA."

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L88[14:14:11] <Mat2ch> Two outposts left. The next is Minmus and the last... well

L89[14:24:00] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Sun?

L90[14:24:15] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Jool?

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L92[14:31:11] <Mat2ch> Eve.

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L98[14:55:15] <Mat2ch> Aaaaand the forum has a bad gateway. ;)

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L105[15:45:57] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/a/mef8jTu

L106[15:46:04] <Mat2ch> There it is. And a reminder what I haven't done yet.

L107[15:48:27] <Mat2ch> I think I have an ascend craft still in orbit around Eve. I could try and salvage it

L108[15:50:25] <Althego> hehe return from the surface

L109[15:50:42] <Althego> not as hard as it used to be, when it was 14000 m/s delta-v

L110[15:50:52] <Althego> now it is just sometinhg like 9000

L111[15:50:57] <Mat2ch> "just"

L112[15:50:59] <Mat2ch> ;)

L113[15:51:41] <Althego> also there ar betteer engines, you can start from mountain top and you can also use electric props to lift you up to higher atmosphere, where rocket engine efficiency is better

L114[15:57:31] <Mat2ch> Hm. I have a modded plane that uses a nuclear engine that uses the atmosphere for propulsion. I could try getting it to Eve and back...

L115[15:57:57] * Deddly_Darth_Kermansson scoffs

L116[15:58:17] <Althego> that is probably going to work great

L117[15:58:22] <darsie> Mat2ch: How is outpost defined? Something a Kerbal can get in, like a capsule or command seat?

L118[15:58:26] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Hyperedit works too ;)

L119[15:58:43] <Mat2ch> Deddly_Darth_Kermansson: hyperedit is a bit broken lately

L120[15:58:55] <Mat2ch> darsie: it's just "dock two vessels together"

L121[15:59:16] <darsie> are these stock missions?

L122[15:59:21] <Mat2ch> yes

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L124[16:05:02] <Mat2ch> darsie: https://imgur.com/a/FiGBYwK

L125[16:08:24] <darsie> ic

L126[16:24:08] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> So an outpost is basically any two dockable rovers?

L127[16:26:44] <Althego> i think the mission ascks for specific conditions

L128[16:26:50] <Althego> like wheels or docking ports

L129[16:26:58] <Althego> antenna and power generation

L130[16:32:43] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Hmm

L131[16:37:51] <Mat2ch> nope, it's just docking

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L136[17:04:51] <FLHerne> .mission add To improve immersion, you swap your mind into KSP and Jeb's into your human body. He finds Earth vehicles very fun to pilot.

L137[17:04:51] <LunchBot> Added mission: To improve immersion, you swap your mind into KSP and Jeb's into your human body. He finds Earth vehicles very fun to pilot.

L138[17:05:53] <FLHerne> .mission add You plan to make things up as you go along.

L139[17:05:53] <LunchBot> Added mission: You plan to make things up as you go along.

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L145[17:20:42] <sandbox> !mission

L146[17:20:42] <LunchBot> You use an infinite universe to hard-code the value of π. Tradition would dictate that what happens next is fall, and ruin, and betrayal that leaves a bitter taste in one’s mouth until death clears it away.

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L148[17:25:47] <raptop> !quote John Carmack,

L149[17:25:47] <LunchBot> Because of an error by John Carmack, the value of pi in doom is 3.141592657.

L150[17:26:13] <raptop> !quote fixup s/pi in doom/π in Doom/

L151[17:26:13] <LunchBot> New text is: Because of an error by John Carmack, the value of π in Doom is 3.141592657.

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L161[17:53:39] <sandbox> 1.666

L162[18:02:37] <raptop> That would get some very weird geometry

L163[18:02:45] <raptop> compare/contrast with hyperogue?

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L179[18:35:33] <Althego> do we know how to combat wheels jumping?

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L181[18:37:14] <raptop> I know there are things you can do with spring/shock sttings, but I don't think bouncing on loading has ever been fixed? Unless there's something in a community fixmod

L182[18:46:42] <Althego> this is an older plane, i tried to replace the gear with the current ones, maybe there is a difference, does not help. the same landing gear seems to be working ok.

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L186[18:58:39] <Althego> nuilt it again from scratch, still jumping

L187[18:59:03] <Althego> ok this is a constructin that flew well without sas and worked well in previously, not in this one

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L191[19:14:08] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Althego, Possibly spawning below ground? Or possibly under-dimensioned wheels for the job. Does it still jump if you empty it of fuel?

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L193[19:34:41] <Althego> the plane is just 6.575 t with 3 small landing gear

L194[19:39:24] <Althego> itdoesnt like the position. elswhere they are ok

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L198[19:48:45] <raptop> !outcome add The PDF of your mision report is bigger than the nation of Germany.

L199[19:48:46] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The PDF of your mision report is bigger than the nation of Germany.

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L201[20:07:56] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Althego, Which landing gear?

L202[20:08:50] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> If it's the LY-01 or LY-05, the answer is that, no, it never got fixed

L203[20:18:21] <Althego> ly-01 small landing gear

L204[20:19:09] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> There's the problem

L205[20:19:35] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Unfortunately, LY-01 is a deadly weapon.

L206[20:20:05] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> !mission add You install an LY-01 landing gear on your craft.

L207[20:20:06] <LunchBot> Added mission: You install an LY-01 landing gear on your craft.

L208[20:25:27] <Althego> side effect, i redesigned it as twin engine, now it can do 600 instead of 360

L209[20:25:36] <Althego> still with early nodes

L210[20:32:29] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Nice

L211[20:53:59] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> I see the LY-01 mostly as a short-term upgrade from landing skids. It'll do the job until something better is available.

L212[21:31:46] <Mat2ch> Something causes my planes to skid sideways when I load them on the runway.

L213[21:31:54] <Mat2ch> If I take off and land again everything is fine

L214[21:31:59] <Mat2ch> I guess I installed to many mods.

L215[21:32:05] <Mat2ch> also Eve is hard.

L216[21:40:59] <xxcoder> ;mission

L217[21:40:59] <LunchBot> You replace all clocks in the KSC with decimal time clocks. The radioactive fallout will take decades to clean up.

L218[21:41:14] <xxcoder> dangerous clocks

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L222[22:47:59] <Deddly_Darth_Kermansson> Still using glow-in-the-dark clock hands made of radium, eh?

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