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L30[07:38:41] <Mat2ch> raptop: I hate being reminded of Moby Dick. I have a copy here, it's boring to read.

L31[07:39:13] <Althego> i tried to read it once

L32[07:39:24] <Althego> it i gave up in the very beginning

L33[07:39:28] <Althego> it was too boring

L34[07:45:48] <xxcoder> old stories have a LOT of prose

L35[07:46:02] <xxcoder> my current book have that, very agressively

L36[07:46:28] <xxcoder> "That hideous strength" third book of series. not great reading, and I wont have a copy when im done

L37[07:57:17] <packbart> I prefer audio books read by a good narrator. I've got too few eyes to dedicate one set to reading a book :)

L38[07:57:46] <packbart> I recently got through much of the Stainless Steel Rat series. a very pompous rat :>

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L45[09:07:32] <Deddly> !mission

L46[09:07:32] <LunchBot> You use thermite as your SRB propellant. Just imagine how much worse it would be for your space program if you *hadn't* unlocked additional launch sites before that test.

L47[09:14:19] <Mat2ch> hehe

L48[09:15:00] <Mat2ch> also thermite could work if you use a slow cooking variant and add something that turns to vapor when heated that much

L49[09:16:12] <darsie> .outcome fixup s/Just imagine how much worse it would be for your space program if you *hadn't* unlocked additional launch sites before that test./Just imagine how much worse it would have been for your space program if you *hadn't* unlocked additional launch sites before that test./

L50[09:16:12] <LunchBot> New text is: Just imagine how much worse it would have been for your space program if you *hadn't* unlocked additional launch sites before that test.

L51[09:21:58] <packbart> hm. why? it still isn't worse

L52[09:22:29] <packbart> my grammatical feel thinks "would be" is correct :)

L53[09:26:41] <packbart> I just think that would be would be better here than would have beeen would have been. scnr.

L54[09:26:43] <sandbox> that would be correct

L55[09:27:51] <packbart> "I just think that would be would have been better than would have been would be." - that one. anyway...

L56[09:29:08] <sandbox> or would've

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L58[09:30:30] <packbart> just wait until someone was going to have been inventing a time machine

L59[09:31:02] <FLHerne> IMO either is correct, "would be" reads better

L60[09:31:31] <FLHerne> it's either about the hypothetical past occurrence or the hypothetical present situation

L61[09:32:01] <FLHerne> blowing up your pad with thermite is definitely something that would have ongoing effects

L62[09:33:09] <FLHerne> and the ongoing loss of a pad is probably more important than the actual explosion, so long as it was cleared first so as to avoid a Nedelin-style catastrophe

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L64[10:36:15] <sandbox> !mission

L65[10:36:15] <LunchBot> You check the checklist. Your cargo exothermically polymerizes at an exponentially-increasing rate.

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L67[10:45:35] <packbart> [x] Check.

L68[10:48:50] <darsie> .mission add Staging - check. Comms - check. Electric - check. Crew - check. Engineer - meh.

L69[10:48:51] <LunchBot> Added mission: Staging - check. Comms - check. Electric - check. Crew - check. Engineer - meh.

L70[10:50:31] <darsie> .mission fixup s/Staging - check. Comms - check. Electric - check. Crew - check. Engineer - meh./Staging - check. Comms - check. Electric - check. Crew - check. Engineer - unused monopropellant./

L71[10:50:32] <LunchBot> New text is: Staging - check. Comms - check. Electric - check. Crew - check. Engineer - unused monopropellant.

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L76[11:46:52] <Deddly> !mission

L77[11:46:52] <LunchBot> You write mission plan in Haiku. You install Principia.

L78[11:47:24] <Deddly> Interesting result

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L82[12:03:24] <Mat2ch> Ah, great, the forum is broken

L83[12:04:21] <darsie> Von nun an gings bergab.

L84[12:04:42] <darsie> .outcome add Von nun an ging's bergab.

L85[12:04:43] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Von nun an ging's bergab.

L86[12:05:42] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9v2XBNVRtw

L87[12:10:58] <packbart> "Last year, we were on the brink of the abyss. This year, we made a big step forwards!"

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L89[12:37:04] <sandbox> 1337

L90[12:59:30] <darsie> .

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L96[14:33:33] <Mat2ch> I want to love ion engines, but 30 minutes for a single burn is just too much

L97[14:37:38] <sandbox> you need to have them in pairs :p

L98[14:42:32] <darsie> We need a multi burn departure/arrival mod. Hmm, maybe someone said we have that.

L99[14:43:13] <Mat2ch> sandbox: more like four of them.

L100[14:43:14] <darsie> Mat2ch: There's persistand thrust mod or so.

L101[14:43:35] <darsie> The fewer you have the higher your dv.

L102[14:45:41] <sandbox> Mat2ch, I was implying Twin Ion Engines

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L110[16:48:15] <Judge_DedD> !nextlunch

L111[16:48:15] <LunchBot> Spaghetti bolognaise.

L112[16:48:23] <Judge_DedD> I obey

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L117[17:26:12] <Judge_DedD> !outcome add Something went wrong. Please try again.

L118[17:26:12] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Something went wrong. Please try again.

L119[17:31:10] <sandbox> !mission

L120[17:31:10] <LunchBot> You press the АЗ-5 button, not knowing that your reactor is in an unusual and unsafe state. You experience several dozen anomalies during launch.

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L122[17:58:15] <Judge_DedD> !mission

L123[17:58:15] <LunchBot> You hire thousands of high-stupidity kerbonauts. Your VAB is run over by 5 cats.

L124[17:58:58] <Judge_DedD> I never had those available in the astronaut complex

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L144[20:41:56] <sandbox> !mission

L145[20:41:56] <LunchBot> You abuse sed. May the Missing Gods find you all.

L146[20:42:51] <raptop> No punishment, only a hope that you survive?

L147[20:53:16] <raptop> !mission add You launch a crewed Munar impactor.

L148[20:53:16] <LunchBot> Added mission: You launch a crewed Munar impactor.

L149[20:56:00] <raptop> !outcome add Your craft strikes Moho with so much energy that it blows off the crust, leaving the- wait, that doesn't make sense.

L150[20:56:00] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your craft strikes Moho with so much energy that it blows off the crust, leaving the- wait, that doesn't make sense.

L151[20:56:12] <raptop> (leaving the Moho)

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L159[21:55:13] <raptop> !mission

L160[21:55:14] <LunchBot> You zoom along at 110 m/s in the middle of the ocean with nothing around. KwirkyJ deletes you.

L161[21:55:29] <raptop> And here I thought I was safe!

L162[21:59:01] <Mat2ch> how many knots is 100 m/s? :P

L163[21:59:52] <raptop> Like 150?

L164[22:00:07] <Pinkbeast> 194

L165[22:00:38] <raptop> hrm

L166[22:04:34] <Mat2ch> Fastest sailing boat reached 65.45 kn...

L167[22:04:57] <Mat2ch> so if you zip around on the water with 110 m/s please don't disturb the sailing Kerbals.

L168[22:06:32] <Pinkbeast> I think my RSS Earth boat got up to about 270 m/s

L169[22:07:23] <Mat2ch> Sailing?

L170[22:07:34] <raptop> The amusing thing is that the sailing speed record was set in... 2012

L171[22:08:24] <raptop> And the fastest (500 m) record in the 20th century was 46.52 knots

L172[22:09:05] <Pinkbeast> Mat2ch: Not as such (and that's considerably faster than _Spirit of Australia_) because in KSP you don't have to deal with many of the ways going that fast over water will kill you

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L174[22:11:47] <raptop> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_sailing_record

L175[22:12:36] <Mat2ch> Pinkbeast: well, F5/F9 in real life would be nice to have, too.

L176[22:12:57] <Mat2ch> raptop: The 24 hour distance record is something as well.

L177[22:13:12] <Mat2ch> 907.9 nmi in 24 hours.

L178[22:13:31] <Mat2ch> You could sail from Europe to the US in roughly 50 hours

L179[22:13:41] <Mat2ch> usually it takes at least two weeks.

L180[22:14:25] <Pinkbeast> I did all the Elcano trips without save/load except for game bugs. I wouldn't have built such an absurdly fast craft, but 18Watt's version of the challenge wouldn't allow even a course-holding autopilot, and no way was I sitting at the keyboard for 2 weeks pressing A now and then

L181[22:15:18] <Mat2ch> I admire your dedication. I'd never considered doing this

L182[22:16:22] <Pinkbeast> It was definitely not the most interesting circumnavigation!

L183[22:16:37] <Mat2ch> I did some fast circumnavigations though

L184[22:17:01] <Pinkbeast> The only real points of interest were crossing the routes of the Suez and Panama canals

L185[22:17:01] <Mat2ch> but never had a chance against the physic abusers.

L186[22:17:25] <Pinkbeast> I don't think there's any abuse of the game physics here, just that the ocean is perfectly flat

L187[22:17:35] <Mat2ch> that's not what I meant. :)

L188[22:18:08] <Mat2ch> Flying very fast means you get lots of heat. And some just added parts in a way that had very little air resistance and could tolerate a lot of heat

L189[22:18:45] <Mat2ch> something like: we place this part here, but move it to the front, where it shields all other parts, etc.

L190[22:19:48] <Mat2ch> is it just me or is the forum still broken?

L191[22:20:02] <Pinkbeast> Ah, I see. That boat sails in a FAR world where such shenanigans might not be tolerated. (There were some very fast sea circumnavigations of Kerbin, mostly using Breaking Ground's magic propellors; I did mine in a monster powered by 10 Goliaths, but it was about 2/3 the speed)

L192[22:20:17] <raptop> There's a non-zero chance that the forum hamsters are finally dead

L193[22:20:47] <Pinkbeast> Vexingly last I saw of it was "good news, the forum software license was extended for 6 months"

L194[22:21:28] <raptop> Yeah, I saw that

L195[22:21:29] <Pinkbeast> ... oh, which indeed is still on the front page

L196[22:21:29] <raptop> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L197[22:27:25] <Mat2ch> but can't be clicked on, because something is wrong

L198[22:28:41] <Mat2ch> well, I should go to bed

L199[22:28:43] <Mat2ch> good night

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