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L2[00:57:23] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L3[00:57:23] <LunchBot> You try to create a
mission plan without harming Kerbals. Clone vats decant Kerbals you
had killed by a mission. Again.
L4[00:58:00] <Eddi|zuHause> does killing
kerbals hurt them? asking for a friend.
L5[01:02:56] <xxcoder> depends on how they
was killed lol
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L26[08:04:39] <Deddly> !mission
L27[08:04:39] <LunchBot> You use drainage
pipes after having run out of fuel lines. The crash was
uneventful.
L28[08:04:58] <Deddly> Nominal crash
FTW
L29[08:05:42] <Althego> hehe
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L32[08:27:46] <Deddly> !nextlunch
L33[08:27:47] <LunchBot> Peptide Cake, with
mint frosting.
L34[08:29:43] <Deddly> MMMMmmmm!
L35[08:33:05] <Althego> hehehe
L36[08:33:15] <Althego> cellular peptide
cake
L37[08:34:05] <Mat2ch> Data sends his
regards.
L38[08:53:12] <darsie> .nextlunch add
Müsli
L39[08:53:12] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Müsli
L40[08:53:27] <darsie> .nextlunch add
Müsli
L41[08:53:27] <LunchBot> "Müsli"
is already a known lunch!
L42[08:53:31] <darsie> .nextlunch
Müsli
L43[08:53:31] <LunchBot> Müsli.
L44[08:53:35] <darsie> .nextlunch ü
L45[08:53:35] <LunchBot>
Reislinsengemüse.
L46[08:53:38] <darsie> :)
L47[08:54:26] <darsie> .nextlunch add
Dodo
L48[08:54:27] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Dodo
L49[08:55:01] <darsie> .nextlunch add
invasive feral Australian camel
L50[08:55:01] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Invasive feral Australian camel
L51[08:55:17] <darsie> .nextlunch add
invasive goldfish
L52[08:55:17] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Invasive goldfish
L53[08:55:30] <darsie> .nextlunch add
rich
L54[08:55:30] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Rich
L55[08:55:50] <darsie> .nextlunch add
plants
L56[08:55:50] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Plants
L57[08:56:17] <darsie> .nextlunch add
Panzerkeks
L58[08:56:17] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Panzerkeks
L59[08:56:30] <darsie> .nextlunch add
dihydrogen monoxide
L60[08:56:30] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Dihydrogen monoxide
L61[08:57:31] <darsie> .nextlunch add
gagh
L62[08:57:31] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Gagh
L63[08:59:11] <darsie> .nextlunch add
Starch with proteins, fat, minerals, vitamins and fiber
L64[08:59:11] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Starch with proteins, fat, minerals, vitamins and fiber
L65[08:59:39] <darsie> .nextlunch del
Starch with proteins, fat, minerals, vitamins and fiber
L66[08:59:39] <LunchBot> Deleted lunch:
"Starch with proteins, fat, minerals, vitamins and
fiber"
L67[09:00:00] <darsie> .nextlunch add
Carbohydrates with proteins, fats, minerals, vitamins and
fiber
L68[09:00:00] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Carbohydrates with proteins, fats, minerals, vitamins and
fiber
L69[09:00:21] <darsie> .nextlunch add
huel
L70[09:00:21] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Huel
L71[09:00:41] <darsie> .nextlunch add
dog
L72[09:00:41] <LunchBot> Added lunch:
Dog
L73[09:06:14] <sandbox> !mission
L74[09:06:14] <LunchBot> You push tech
advances at a rate faster than ethics can sometimes maybe keep up
with. You run out of rations and start eating landing legs.
L75[09:20:19] <Mat2ch> !nextlunch
L76[09:20:19] <LunchBot> そば
L77[09:20:21] <Mat2ch> !nextlunch
L78[09:20:21] <LunchBot> Egg-fried rice on
buttered toast with pepper.
L79[09:20:31] <Mat2ch> I wont neither
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L82[10:04:29] <FLHerne> .mission add A
stranger asks you to steer their craft. You object that you have no
idea how to operate one but are told "you can steer a boat and
this is just like a space boat."
L83[10:04:29] <LunchBot> Added mission: A
stranger asks you to steer their craft. You object that you have no
idea how to operate one but are told "you can steer a boat and
this is just like a space boat."
L85[10:05:54] <Mat2ch> at least the street
was flat afterwards. :D
L86[10:06:32] <Mat2ch> and clean by the
looks of the trailer.
L87[10:06:48] <FLHerne> at least one bit of
sticky-out kerb became a bit flatter than it was before :p
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L89[10:07:34] <FLHerne> all the junk in the
trailer came with it to start with
L90[10:08:49] <Mat2ch> oh, ok... looked
like you were trash collecting...
L91[10:09:54] <FLHerne> Jodders is simply
not a tidy person
L92[10:10:05] <FLHerne> and also steam
engines need a lot of stuff
L93[10:10:19] <Mat2ch> hehe
L94[10:10:56] <FLHerne> all the pipe stuff
is for extracting water from fire hydrants, rivers or any other wet
stuff encountered, the coal and steam oil are obvious
L95[10:13:18] <FLHerne> Deddly: is
"Rich" a lunch?
L96[10:13:19] <FLHerne> oh,;a
L97[10:13:30] <FLHerne> oh, as in "eat
the" ?
L98[10:14:30] <FLHerne> I would like
predominantly reasonable lunches, even if not everyone likes all of
them :p
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L116[14:19:17] <sandbox> !mission
L117[14:19:17] <LunchBot> You hurt
yourself in confusion while rummaging through your collection of
RonCo products. Just past Max-Q, you discover that your FTS is
really a Firmament Termination System.
L118[14:22:34] <FLHerne> .outcome add The
world is a better place, not only for your direct contributions,
but through the people you inspired. They will continue your
work.
L119[14:22:34] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
The world is a better place, not only for your direct
contributions, but through the people you inspired. They will
continue your work.
L120[14:29:34] <Deddly> <FLHerne>
Deddly: is "Rich" a lunch?
L121[14:29:39] <Deddly> I have no idea. it
wasn't me
L122[14:30:09] <Deddly> It's no Swedish
dish I've heard of
L123[14:33:02] <Deddly> FLHerne, is was
darsie :)
L124[14:33:14] <sandbox> Rich?
L125[14:33:21] <FLHerne> so it was,
sorry
L126[14:33:39] <Deddly> No worries
L127[14:35:51] <Deddly> !lunch add A large
bowl of very rich deep-fried cookie dough ice-cream with waffles
and drizzled with a generous dollop of golden syrup and
butterscotch sauce.
L128[14:35:51] <LunchBot> Added lunch: A
large bowl of very rich deep-fried cookie dough ice-cream with
waffles and drizzled with a generous dollop of golden syrup and
butterscotch sauce.
L129[14:36:11] <Deddly> Now THAT'S
rich.
L130[14:42:12] <darsie> Rich is a lunch.
Eat the rich.
L131[14:42:56] <darsie> FLHerne:
L132[14:43:15] <FLHerne> .lunch del
Rich
L133[14:43:15] <LunchBot> "Rich"
doesn't uniquely specify a lunch, deletion failed!
L134[14:43:19] <FLHerne> hm
L135[14:45:09] <sandbox> Rich Tea
biscuits
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L140[15:02:26] ***
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L141[15:38:39] <Deddly> I think FLHerne
just discovered a vulnerability
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L144[16:43:46] <Deddly> !mission
L145[16:43:46] <LunchBot> Due to a
merchandising agreement between Mel Brooks and George Lucas; your
plan of a Spaceballs Space Program is denied. You are eaten by a
Grue.
L146[16:44:19] <Deddly> Well that's
unfortunate
L147[16:46:19] <raptop> There were
probably some intermediate steps
L150[17:12:04] <Deddly> (Talking about
votes)
L151[17:13:20] <raptop> hm
L152[17:13:34] <raptop> Incidentally, I
think the dicsord should do something similar with putting KSP1
above KSP2
L153[17:13:46] <Pinkbeast> The distinction
between options 2 and 3 is not immediately obvious
L154[17:13:52] <Deddly> Go ahead and
suggest that to Dakota, raptop
L155[17:14:08] <Deddly> Pinkbeast, I
agree. I don't really know what it means myself
L156[17:14:52] <Pinkbeast> I asked, we'll
see
L157[17:15:10] <Deddly> Ha, me too
L158[17:15:15] <Deddly> Exactly the same
tiem
L159[17:15:17] <Deddly> time
L160[17:15:18] <Pinkbeast> jinx
L161[17:28:26] <Pinkbeast> aha and our old
friend 502 Bad Gateway
L162[17:30:24] <Althego> hello darkness my
old friend
L163[17:39:01] <Deddly> I've come to talk
with you again
L164[17:53:20] <raptop> If there's a news
cycle about the lunar gateway having a hardware issue, someone had
better make a 502 error joke
L165[17:56:16] <Althego> a lunar gateway
should be a circle, you step in here and you arrive at the
moon
L166[17:58:11] <raptop> ah, yes, project
stargate
L167[18:01:12] <Althego> lunar gateway for
lunar getaway
L168[18:22:51] <Deddly> !mission add You
attempt to make a lunar gateway that is just a circle for people to
step through to arrive at the moon.
L169[18:22:51] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You attempt to make a lunar gateway that is just a circle for
people to step through to arrive at the moon.
L170[18:25:32] <Deddly> !mission
L171[18:25:32] <LunchBot> You ask someone
what is their K/D on KSP. taniwha explodes, emitting all kinds of
launchpads.
L172[18:26:52] <Deddly> He's actually
still here in the channel.
L173[18:27:24] <Mat2ch> Why do I have the
feeling Dakota wants to see the world burn and doesn't care anymore
about what the management might say?
L174[18:27:36] <sandbox> my cat's food
says "K/D"
L175[18:30:04] <raptop> Unless you're a
cleric or necromancer, I'm pretty sure your cat's K/D is NaN
L176[18:30:56] <Deddly> Mat2ch, What makes
you say that?
L177[18:47:53] <Mat2ch> Deddly: Keeping
KSP2 at the top shows what the current important product is.
L178[18:48:10] <Mat2ch> Every manager will
want to have the newest stuff at the top.
L179[18:48:11] <Eddi|zuHause> if i'm
remembering stargate lore enough, a stargate on the moon would
probably have the same basic coordinates as one on earth, and only
one can be active at the same time
L180[18:49:03] <Deddly> Mat2ch,
Interesting thought. Mind you, KSP 1 is a much more successful
product, it would seem
L181[18:49:42] <Mat2ch> Deddly: Exactly.
What does this tell us about the state of KSP 2...
L182[18:50:25] <Deddly> I think the state
of KSP 2 is pretty obvious by now. We've seen picture shared of the
community managers packing up their boxes.
L183[18:54:45] <Deddly> Of course, we
don't know anything for sure beyond that
L184[18:55:28] <Deddly> But one of
Dakota's boxes from packing his desk was labelled "Dakota's
hopes and dreams"
L185[18:58:13] <Mat2ch> So Dakota will
reorder the forum, throw away the key and leave.
L186[19:00:21] <Deddly> "¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"
L187[19:01:34] <Mat2ch> at last present
for us.
L188[19:03:12] <sandbox> I used to be able
to read katakana
L189[19:03:20] <Althego> i didnt say it
would need to be a stargate, just a circle
L190[19:03:43] <Althego> the portals in
outcast would work well too
L191[19:03:45] <Mat2ch> SDWH?
L192[19:03:49] <Mat2ch> Small diameter
wormhole?
L193[19:07:45] <Deddly> The portals in
Portal would work very well to get to the Moon.
L194[19:08:35] <Althego> as demonstrated
in the game
L195[19:09:10] <Deddly> ^
L196[19:09:43] <Deddly> They also work as
an easy way to give the Moon an atmosphere
L197[19:10:02] <sandbox> that was kind of
the whole point of the moon rocks
L198[19:13:24] <Deddly> !outcome add You
discover that the Apollo missions were a secret clandestine
government project to bring back material suitable for supporting
stable portals.
L199[19:13:25] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You discover that the Apollo missions were a secret clandestine
government project to bring back material suitable for supporting
stable portals.
L200[19:14:27] <Mat2ch> uh, the Moon would
never keep an atmosphere. You have to build a sphere around the
atmosphere first. ;)
L201[19:14:55] <Althego> it could keep an
atmosphere if it was cold enough
L202[19:15:47] <Mat2ch> but how do we get
the giant AC up?
L203[19:16:14] <Deddly> It could support
an atmosphere for a while, right?
L204[19:17:17] <Althego> for a whikle is
relative, probably thousands of years, that is long time in human
terms
L205[19:18:28] <Deddly> Wikipedia says
that NASA says that the Moon supported a relatively thick
atmosphere for a period of 70 million years.
L206[19:18:47] <Althego> more than
enough
L207[19:18:52] <Deddly> Relatively thick
is relative
L208[19:19:03] <Deddly> Twice as thick as
Mars' atmosphere is today
L209[19:19:16] <Althego> then not
enough
L210[19:19:40] <Deddly> But NASAs portals
don't have to stop there
L211[19:20:44] <Deddly> You just have to
make sure the portals aren't ejecting the atmosphere at more than
Lunar escape velocity
L213[19:32:39] <Mat2ch> woah. Never seen
this. So well made!
L214[19:34:33] <Deddly> Yeah :)
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L219[20:16:41] <Eddi|zuHause> 70 million
years is really not a long time
L220[20:19:05] <sandbox> that's how long
it took to make Jurassic Park
L221[20:21:20] <Deddly> It's long enough
for a studio to develop KSP 3 on location.
L222[20:24:23] <Althego> location? in a
parallel universe with strange gravity and stufF?
L223[20:27:10] <Deddly> Who needs a
parallel universe when you have an atmosphere on the Moon and an
established portal there from the Earth?
L224[20:28:03] <xxcoder> long earth is
interesting book series
L225[20:28:06] <xxcoder> you should read
it
L226[20:28:17] <xxcoder> best? probably
not but interesting concept indeed
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L228[20:35:34] <Deddly> Sounds like an
interesting read
L229[20:41:51] <Deddly> I have never read
Terry Pratchet. I'm told Discworld is definitely worth a read
L230[20:44:37] <FLHerne> yes, but it's
quite variable in genre
L231[20:45:26] <FLHerne> the early ones
are mostly-comedic parodies of things
L232[20:46:12] <FLHerne> later ones stand
on their own feet and are generally better for it IMO
L233[20:46:44] <FLHerne> except a couple
of late books where sadly I think the Alzheimers didn't help
:-(
L234[20:47:07] <FLHerne> Long Earth is
definitely neat
L235[20:48:19] <Pinkbeast> late books>
it kind of came and went as he got more workarounds for his
difficulties - Making Money is very much just Going Postal in a
different hat, but Raising Steam is later and much better
(IMAO)
L236[20:50:24] <Pinkbeast> Deddly: the
first two are not very like the others, although they're worth a
read
L237[20:51:04] <Pinkbeast> (but if you're
not the kind of person who hates reading a series out of order (I
am) I'd maybe not start with them)
L238[20:52:03] <Deddly> Hang on... I'm
trying to get my head around the compound negatives there ;)
L239[20:52:39] <Pinkbeast> "If I
didn't ask the guard on the right if he would not tell the guard
who isn't on the left..."
L240[20:52:47] <Deddly> So... I AM the
sort of person who doesn't like reading out of order, so I SHOULD
start with the first books. Right?
L241[20:53:13] <Pinkbeast> Yes. But if you
are that sort of person (like me) there's no point me suggesting a
different order anyway :-)
L242[20:53:33] <Deddly> Ah :)
L243[20:54:01] <Pinkbeast> There are one
or two series (like Hornblower) where I'd make an argument for
order of publication not in-universe chronological, but in the hope
that that would still satisfy the desire to read them in
order
L244[20:54:47] <Deddly> I think I read
Hornblower in pretty much the chronological order. I didn't know it
was published in any other order
L245[20:55:00] <Pinkbeast> (Discworld
doesn't have a completely clear in-universe chronological order so
the confusion doesn't arise)
L246[20:55:11] <Pinkbeast> Very much; it
started with _The Happy Return_.
L247[20:55:24] <Deddly> I think I started
at Midshipman
L248[20:56:01] <Pinkbeast> This is why
there are one or two oddities like Bush serving with Hornblower for
the first time in The Happy Return but also being the viewpoint
character in Lieutenant Hornblower
L249[20:56:25] <Deddly> It's been so many
years since I read them I don't honestly remember
L250[20:57:02] <Pinkbeast> Well, it
happens. (Also Midshipman's a funny book because he's not being The
Man Alone in command, and Lieutenant a funny one because he's not
the viewpoint character...)
L251[20:58:30] <Mat2ch> Deddly: I'm
currently reading all of the Discworld books.
L252[20:58:37] <Mat2ch> Only thing to do,
when it's too hot to work
L253[20:59:01] <Deddly> Heh
L254[20:59:13] <Mat2ch> Good books, good
stories, not everyones taste probably, but oh well what is
L255[20:59:29] <Pinkbeast> cheese # this
is not true, my dad can't stand cheese
L256[21:00:03] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: I'm
currently in the middle. Will it get confusing?
L257[21:00:40] <Pinkbeast> Mat2ch: because
of the (not quite) Alzheimers?
L258[21:00:44] <FLHerne> Pinkbeast: odd,
Raising Steam is by far my least favourite Discworld book
L259[21:00:53] <Pinkbeast> FLHerne: Huh,
well, de gustibus
L260[21:01:40] <Mat2ch> Pinkbeast: FLHerne
hinted at something like this
L261[21:02:20] <Pinkbeast> Mat2ch: They
won't get confusing; he never became too famous to edit, or at any
rather unlike some other authors he let people edit him when he was
famous. But you might think they're less good.
L262[21:02:36] <FLHerne> presumably the
Hornblower conversation means I'm not the only Aubrey & Maturin
fan here :p
L263[21:03:17] <Pinkbeast> FLHerne: I
didn't particularly get on with Aubrey and Maturin, and - well -
they're not doing the same thing. (I quite enjoy Drake's
Leary-Mundy books, which are basically A&M in space)
L264[21:03:36] <Pinkbeast> not doing the
same thing> other than reproducing some of Cochrane's exploits
:-)
L265[21:03:55] <FLHerne> Deddly: re.
Discworld starting with the first books is fine, just if you decide
you hate it skip to, say, Guards! Guards! and try again
L266[21:04:24] <FLHerne> I love almost all
of them, just for slightly different reasons
L267[21:05:03] <Pinkbeast> Mind you I did
read an article in the CS Forester society magazine where the
author says how much he prefers Hornblower to A&M, and I read
along thinking yes, I agree, odd cripes-crikey writing style. Get
to the end and it turns out it was written by Boris Johnson. I felt
dirty.
L268[21:05:57] <FLHerne> hm, I haven't
read those
L269[21:06:58] <Pinkbeast> The first one
or two are in the Baen Free Library (and er, how can I put this,
Drake was one of Baen sane authors) but time may be more the issue
than money
L270[21:06:59] <FLHerne> obviously I've
read Hornblower But In Space, Honor Harrington
L271[21:07:22] <FLHerne> at least until
Weber forgot what he was doing and tried to do Tom Clancy In
Space
L272[21:07:41] <Pinkbeast> Her transition
from "competent officer" to "space Jesus"
L273[21:08:06] <Pinkbeast> If your
protagonist makes Kimball Kinnison look like an underachiever you
might have a problem
L274[21:08:28] <FLHerne> tbf, I get the
impression that he realized that problem and sidelined her a
bit
L275[21:08:48] <FLHerne> after At All
Costs or whenever
L276[21:08:56] <FLHerne> but then it all
gets a bit aimless
L277[21:09:35] <Pinkbeast> Even then he
can't drop it! There's one of the academy books where it turns out
someone has smashed a bunch of records "but not the sailplane
record set by Duchess Harrington" and what, does she literally
have to be the best at _everything_?
L278[21:10:50] <Pinkbeast> I think At All
Costs is the one where the final battle is like the end of a Master
of Orion game where you have a crushing technological advantage and
just press the "blow up their ships" button and that's
moderately fun in a game where you built up to it but it's not very
good reading, even compared to the missile spreadsheets from
previous books
L279[21:11:04] <FLHerne> to be fair, the
sailplane record was in the very first book
L280[21:11:08] <Mat2ch> Pinkbeast: The
Boris Johnson?!
L281[21:11:15] <Pinkbeast> ... and it's
such a pity, the battle in _On Basilisk Station_ is a corker
L282[21:11:25] <Pinkbeast> FLHerne: Right.
But why can no-one beat it?
L283[21:11:31] <Pinkbeast> Mat2ch: I'm
afraid so
L284[21:11:32] <FLHerne> her plaque for it
gets slightly melted on the first HMS Fearless
L285[21:12:28] <Mat2ch> Pinkbeast: So
another politician how should have stuck with doing art...
L286[21:12:35] <FLHerne> eh, it makes a
nice callback
L287[21:13:29] <Pinkbeast> TBH I think the
Bahzell books are the best expression of Weber's Author Sue
problem; at the start of the first book we find out that the Riders
of Rohan^W^W^W horse dudes have a special kind of
"windrider" with a telepathic link with their intelligent
horses (paging Mercedes Lackey) and since Bahzell is from the Horse
Stealer (and eater) hrad... orcish clan, natural enemies of
not-the-Rohirrim...
L288[21:13:46] <Pinkbeast> ... the
experienced Weber reader knows immediately that by the end of the
book, Bahzell will be a windrider
L289[21:15:08] <Pinkbeast> Mat2ch: I think
it's against channel rules for me to express my opinion of Johnson
in more detail, but yes :-)
L290[21:15:39] *
Deddly gets triggered by the word
"politician"
L291[21:21:17] <Mat2ch> hehe
L292[21:42:49] <Mat2ch> Deddly:
politetician!
L293[21:43:01] <Deddly>
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L300[23:29:11] <LunchBot> You experiment
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Deadly Orgone Radiation.
L301[23:31:28] <Eddi|zuHause> that happens
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