OCLogs: 2024-06-04.log

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L86[08:43:29] <Deddly> !nextlunch

L87[08:43:30] <LunchBot> Rocket candy.

L88[08:43:50] <Deddly> Tasty

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L93[09:37:36] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L94[09:37:36] <LunchBot> The smuggled corn beef sandwich becomes lodged in the CO₂ scrubbers. Sadly your snacks seem to consist of lamp oil, moth balls, charcoal, bags of sugar, and a kettle. Delicious!

L95[09:38:39] <Eddi|zuHause> the scrubber might have problems scrubbing the charcoal

L96[09:44:38] <FLHerne> .lunch add Corned beef sandwich.

L97[09:44:38] <LunchBot> Added lunch: Corned beef sandwich.

L98[09:44:39] <Eddi|zuHause> but it's quite amazing that the scrubber could identify the components that well :p

L99[09:45:25] <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is corned beef anyway?

L100[09:47:59] <sandbox> !mission

L101[09:48:00] <LunchBot> You design a rocket motor which burns nothing but the engine itself. Out of billions of alternate histories, in two, the mission was a success!

L102[09:49:20] <Eddi|zuHause> that's great, you just have to solve P=NP to find out which alternative to pick

L103[09:54:55] <Deddly> FLHerne, should have added Smuggled corned beef sandwich

L104[09:55:16] <FLHerne> .lunch fixup s/C/Smuggled C/

L105[09:55:16] <LunchBot> New text is: Smuggled Corned beef sandwich.

L106[09:55:24] <FLHerne> .lunch fixup s/C/c/

L107[09:55:24] <LunchBot> New text is: Smuggled corned beef sandwich.

L108[09:55:55] <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: ground-up beef in a tin

L109[09:56:24] <Deddly> Nice

L110[09:56:26] <FLHerne> compacted and heated, keeps forever

L111[09:56:55] <Deddly> It's also a kind of salt-curing process

L112[09:57:17] <Deddly> A great thing to have in your emergency-preparedness kit, actually

L113[10:01:14] <Deddly> The only one I can find in Sweden is 56% meat and the rest an unspecified mix of offal, salt and conservatives. Pretty sure corned beef isn't supposed to have offal in it

L114[10:02:13] <Mat2ch> .oO( in the kit a mobile toilet should be integrated. Also a pump and generator if you are living in Southern Germany )

L115[10:03:23] <Deddly> Mobile toilet? As in a bucket, or what?

L116[10:04:31] <Mat2ch> Hm, you could sell the bucket with emergency food, a flashlight, a radio, batteries and a roll of plastic bags as emergency kit with toilet.

L117[10:04:34] <Mat2ch> Good idea!

L118[10:04:35] <Mat2ch> ;)

L119[10:04:42] <Deddly> Hehe

L120[10:05:00] <Deddly> And fill it with water

L121[10:05:27] <Deddly> What do you need a pump and generator for?

L122[10:05:56] <Deddly> As in a water pump? For dealing with minor flooding?

L123[10:06:30] <Eddi|zuHause> it's a question of what kind of emergency you're preparing for

L124[10:06:47] <Mat2ch> Deddly: Southern Germany has a slight water problem right now.

L125[10:06:58] <Mat2ch> Really just a minor problem

L126[10:07:05] <Mat2ch> Only a few billions in damages

L127[10:07:25] <Deddly> So the pump and generator is for floods?

L128[10:07:38] <Mat2ch> yes

L129[10:08:15] <Deddly> Do they give any recommendations as to how powerful the pump/generator should be?

L130[10:08:19] <Eddi|zuHause> on the one hand, it's bad preparation to prepare for an emergency that has just happened. on the other hand, it could happen again.

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L132[10:08:31] <Mat2ch> I'd suggest a battery bank with solar panels. Because there's always sunshine after the rain

L133[10:08:54] <Deddly> As long as your batteries are high above the flood line

L134[10:09:01] * Mat2ch should stop being such a cynic.

L135[10:09:35] <Mat2ch> Nobody likes cynics. They are most often right.

L136[10:09:36] <Eddi|zuHause> this weekend i went as far north as i could, it was very sunshiny, until i got back home...

L137[10:11:25] <Mat2ch> And I'd say 20000 l/h or better should be enough

L138[10:12:41] <Mat2ch> Kärcher sells a pump in something they call "Flood box". They know...

L139[10:13:24] <Eddi|zuHause> also depends on a) where the water is coming from, and b) whether you want to get it out right as it comes in, or just out afterwards

L140[10:15:23] <Mat2ch> you always want to get the water out as soon as it comes in. The fewer water damage, the better. I have cleaned up a partially flooded cellar once. Please never again.

L141[10:18:56] <Mat2ch> Luckily there was a sump where most of the water ran in first and where it was relatively easy to get out again.

L142[10:19:56] <Deddly> Did the water cause a lot of damage?

L143[10:36:50] <Mat2ch> We were really lucky back then. It was mainly fresh water, because the water mains in the street had broken, so not much dirt, like what you'd get if a creek floods.

L144[10:37:32] <Mat2ch> And we found out before it had time to flood the whole basement. There were some cardboard boxes damaged with old cloth inside, nothing of real value.

L145[10:38:28] <Mat2ch> and no damage to the walls either, because we were fast enough to get the water out again (ok, the fire department did that)

L146[10:47:59] <Eddi|zuHause> we had a slight crack in one of our water pipes, took us ages to find the actual cause

L147[10:49:19] <Eddi|zuHause> the water had gathered below the floor for maybe months

L148[11:01:09] <Eddi|zuHause> the way our house is arranged along a slope makes it very unlikely that outside floods will affect us, and water will never really gather much above the floor level as there's natural exits for it.

L149[11:01:46] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L150[11:01:46] <LunchBot> The mission director is handed instructions on a napkin. The kill-counter rolls over, resulting in a net gain in live kerbals.

L151[11:05:10] <Deddly> Glad you guys managed to avoid serious damage

L152[11:32:58] <Deddly> !nextlunch

L153[11:32:58] <LunchBot> None Pizza with Left Beef.

L154[11:35:05] <Deddly> Huh. It's real

L155[11:35:20] <FLHerne> not especially compelling though

L156[11:35:43] <Deddly> Indeed

L157[11:36:14] <FLHerne> .lunch pizza

L158[11:36:15] <LunchBot> Chicken and waffle pizza.

L159[11:36:37] <FLHerne> is this some unfamiliar meaning of 'waffle', or another stupid pizza

L160[11:37:00] <FLHerne> https://weirdandwildpizza.com/2019/08/03/chicken-and-waffle-pizza/

L161[11:37:12] <FLHerne> that looks weird, but less awful than I thought it would

L162[11:38:35] <darsie> 1338

L163[11:41:58] <Deddly> Huh. I would try it

L164[11:42:02] <Deddly> !mission

L165[11:42:03] <LunchBot> After countless meetings and delays, you finally decide the name of the next rocket to be "Big Bertha". Due to budget cuts, your rocket is made of cheap rushed 3d-printed parts and disintegrates upon launch.

L166[11:42:35] <Deddly> Shouldn't have spent so many resources on those meetings, I guess

L167[11:43:47] <FLHerne> I managed to flood the engine room of my home through stupidity a few months ago

L168[11:44:02] <FLHerne> fortunately there's a watertight bulkhead so everything else was ok

L169[11:44:25] <Deddly> Your home has an engine room? Do you live on a ship?

L170[11:47:07] <FLHerne> more of a boat

L171[11:49:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i saw an explanation video once about "none pizza with left beef"

L172[11:57:48] <Deddly> That's cool, FLHerne

L173[11:58:01] <Deddly> Longboat?

L174[12:02:29] <Deddly> !quote

L175[12:02:29] <LunchBot> "Abrams addressed the matter by debuting a deleted scene of actor Benedict Cumberbatch's character Khan taking a shower."

L176[12:03:23] <FLHerne> narrowboat

L177[12:03:40] <FLHerne> what matter

L178[12:04:25] <FLHerne> > The film was criticized for a scene with actress Alice Eve's character Carol Marcus in her underwear, which was called "wholly unnecessary" and "gratuitous".

L179[12:04:46] <FLHerne> (Star Trek Into Darkness)

L180[12:06:25] <Deddly> Oh yeah, narrowboat. Stupid me

L181[12:06:39] <FLHerne> to be fair they are proportionally long

L182[12:06:46] <FLHerne> although mine not so much

L183[12:07:22] <Deddly> Narrowboats are awesome

L184[12:07:56] <Mat2ch> Deddly: you can find FLHerne in a youtube video about narrowboats as well ;)

L185[12:08:30] <Deddly> Cool

L186[12:08:52] <FLHerne> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-69062137 I have a brief cameo appearance in this one too :p

L187[12:09:07] <FLHerne> somehow that was about three hours of filming for two minutes of video

L188[12:09:27] <FLHerne> Jon and I got a lot of practice reversing so they could film yet another take of the same thing

L189[12:16:40] <Mat2ch> 15 external scripts. Wow. You'd think the BBC has money for some good web devs...

L190[12:17:08] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: you are the one with the hat? :D

L191[12:18:13] <FLHerne> yes

L192[12:18:24] <Mat2ch> Gotten old. :P

L193[12:18:32] <FLHerne> apparently people don't recognize me without the hat now

L194[12:18:50] <Mat2ch> There's an older boater at the end of the video, who also wears a hat :D

L195[12:19:09] <FLHerne> I'm not Hans

L196[12:19:16] <FLHerne> there's only one Hans :D

L197[12:19:34] <Mat2ch> hehe

L198[12:19:46] <FLHerne> quite a lot of boaters wear some kind of wide-brimmed hat, they're practical

L199[12:22:15] <FLHerne> oh, here's the one with the hat comment https://www.flherne.uk/files/Malus_Ryders_Green.mp4

L200[12:23:15] <sandbox> "quite a lot of "boaters" wear some kind of wide-brimmed hat, they're practical"

L201[12:23:42] <sandbox> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boater

L202[12:24:02] <FLHerne> sandbox: ironically, no-one wears those because they aren't practical :p

L203[12:30:50] <Mat2ch> I understand nothing. The accent is just to hard :D

L204[12:31:07] <sandbox> huh?

L205[12:31:41] <Mat2ch> in the video FLHerne posted

L206[12:31:48] <sandbox> accent?

L207[12:32:50] <sandbox> I didn't find any of it difficult to understand

L208[12:35:06] <Mat2ch> I have a hard time understanding everything he says

L209[12:42:47] <FLHerne> (presumably this is about the second one, not the BBC report)

L210[12:43:28] <Mat2ch> it is

L211[13:12:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i've understood maybe 3 words

L212[13:19:43] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L213[13:19:43] <LunchBot> You start a large and very expensive campaign to reduce public fear of the word "nuclear". Blood for *all* of the Blood Gods.

L214[13:20:27] <Eddi|zuHause> but is it *nuclear* blood?

L215[13:21:02] <Eddi|zuHause> (red blood cells famously have no nucleus)

L216[13:21:20] <Mat2ch> "And here we go. Malus coming through, following(?) Atlas. About 10 minutes behind Mike we are all making fun now(?). <not understandable> I never even noticed, cause he hasn't got his hat on. And then <whatever> pulling it through. <not understandable>"

L217[13:21:59] <Mat2ch> I had to listen to it several times to understand this much

L218[13:23:10] <Mat2ch> I guess FLHerne could fill in the rest easily :D

L219[13:28:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure i heard the word "boating" in one of the <not understandable> parts

L220[13:32:20] <Mat2ch> hehe

L221[13:32:26] <Mat2ch> I think a "pint" was in there, too.

L222[13:32:34] <Mat2ch> Not sure how many pints the speaker had before, though

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L224[13:45:09] <sandbox> !mission

L225[13:45:09] <LunchBot> The Mun hatches just as you land on it, birthing Kerb knows what. So you use the remains of crashed kerbals for ballast.

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L228[14:24:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i had that happen in stellaris

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L230[14:50:40] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L231[14:50:40] <LunchBot> You reaction wheels turn your rover into a 3-meter kikkerland wind-up. The customer ambassadors are requested to listen for any unusual noise and vibration once the journey commences.

L232[14:56:45] <Eddi|zuHause> not a clue what that's supposed to be :p https://kikkerlandeu.com/products/le-pinch-wind-up

L233[15:04:05] <Althego> lol

L234[15:04:14] <Althego> i guess it is moving with the little legs

L235[15:04:30] <Althego> but i like strandbeest mo

L236[15:04:31] <Althego> re

L237[15:04:44] <Althego> ah there is a video

L238[15:04:52] <Althego> it is moving its legs and vurbing its body

L239[15:14:08] <sandbox> have you ever watched a really interesting series of videos on youtube only to get to the end and discover that barely anyone else watched it?

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L242[15:18:00] <Eddi|zuHause> sure

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L257[19:27:55] <FLHerne> No thanks to the Kerbals, though, they always squeal when you try to remove redundant anatomical systems to save weight.

L258[19:28:00] <FLHerne> .outcome add No thanks to the Kerbals, though, they always squeal when you try to remove redundant anatomical systems to save weight.

L259[19:28:00] <LunchBot> Added outcome: No thanks to the Kerbals, though, they always squeal when you try to remove redundant anatomical systems to save weight.

L260[19:34:45] <Althego> .outcome add The rocket explodes, scattering its pieces, and nobody can say if it was caused by the trouble with tribbles or the kerfuffle with kerbals.

L261[19:34:45] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The rocket explodes, scattering its pieces, and nobody can say if it was caused by the trouble with tribbles or the kerfuffle with kerbals.

L262[19:35:06] <raptop> !words add Kerfuffle

L263[19:35:16] <raptop> hrm

L264[19:36:33] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L265[19:36:33] <LunchBot> At several points Bill appears uncomfortable with what's being asked of him, but he lacks the assertiveness to clearly express his discomfort, and at no point does he question any of Jebediah's dubious ideas. The explosion is so large even suclearnub's parents believe it's real.

L266[19:43:05] <raptop> Yeah, that figures

L267[19:53:27] <raptop> !startup

L268[19:53:28] <LunchBot> Coniferous Oat Advising

L269[19:53:34] <raptop> uhuh

L270[19:55:38] <Eddi|zuHause> aren't conifers poisonous?

L271[19:56:22] <raptop> Well, pinecones are safe enough to eat

L272[20:04:57] <sandbox> I'll pass

L273[20:05:27] <Althego> lol who would want to eat a pinecone

L274[20:05:41] <Althego> it is dry and really hard

L275[20:05:49] <darsie> You can buy Pinienkerne in the supermarket.

L276[20:05:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i think it's about the seeds inside the pinecone

L277[20:06:22] <darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_nut

L278[20:06:37] <raptop> It's mostly about the seeds, though in another channel we have silly bets about eating pinecones if an aerospace thing happens/doesn't happen

L279[20:07:18] <Althego> ah if you get the seed from it, ok that may work

L280[20:07:39] <darsie> All parts of Taxus except the red meat are toxic.

L281[20:07:55] <Althego> i like to chew on watermelon seeds. i like the taste. maybe it is not bad either

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L283[20:20:52] <Guest08435> Why hasnt anyone at IG or PD made an announcement about anything?

L284[20:20:58] <Guest08435> It's been a month!

L285[20:21:54] <Eddi|zuHause> how should we answer that?

L286[20:22:16] <Eddi|zuHause> either they don't know what they're doing yet, or they do and are holding back

L287[20:22:19] <Guest08435> hmm, few options. Speculation, frustration, actual proof. You take your pick.

L288[20:24:16] <raptop> Take2 seems to think that saying nothing at all won't convince everyone that KSP2 is cancelled, or something

L289[20:24:56] <Guest08435> It really seems that way, is the publisher able to make them not communicate anything with us at all regarding the status of the game?

L290[20:25:38] <raptop> That's my understanding

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L292[20:26:28] <Guest08435> Well great, it seems like they're going to keep their mouth shut until they all get laid off huh?

L293[20:26:35] <raptop> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L294[20:26:40] <Guest08435> Meanwhile take2 is silently closing PD as well.

L295[20:27:23] <Guest08435> Well, guess I'll pop back in, in another couple of months. Such a shame to see this happen to such a great game with so much educational value.

L296[20:27:44] <Eddi|zuHause> of course an employer can make the employees not talk about anything.

L297[20:28:14] <raptop> Yeah, take2 is getting rid of a lot of in progress games

L298[20:28:34] <Guest08435> It was my understanding that the publishers controlled the selling, marketing and funding of games. Not so much as leading everything else, guess I was mistaken.

L299[20:28:52] <Guest08435> But I assume that's also on a per contract basis.

L300[20:31:19] <raptop> something like that

L301[20:31:35] <Eddi|zuHause> the publisher is also responsible for the communication/marketing, obviously

L302[20:32:19] <raptop> FWIW, deddly is the channel founder here and I'm the successor, so unless Take2 sends lawyers to Esper, they can't touch the channel. And somehow I don't think they would go to that much effort

L303[20:32:58] <raptop> astronomers naming things: https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.00935

L304[20:34:35] <Althego> so what does vertecs stand for?

L305[20:34:50] <raptop> oops, I meant to link this elsewhere

L306[20:35:11] <Guest08435> Not going to lie, I tried to comprehend literally anything from what that said and it went straight over my head.

L307[20:35:11] <Guest08435> Eddi|zuHause I just think it's funny that they said we'd have "open communication" and they would share the development process with us but the whole time they slacked super hard on it. - however I admit that there was some good dev posts, but for the most part it was just sad to see it slowly fall apart.

L308[20:35:28] <raptop> The Visible Extragalactic background RadiaTion Exploration by CubeSat (VERTECS) mission

L309[20:35:43] <Guest08435> I think someone named "shadow" something on youtube did a video showing that the game wasn't even made to work with multiplayer, did you guys see that too?

L310[20:36:01] <raptop> ShadowZone? I'm somewhat aware of that

L311[20:36:06] <Althego> shadowzone?

L312[20:36:17] <raptop> His videos ended up getting pinned in the IG discord because of the lack of official communication

L313[20:36:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't really followed KSP2 development

L314[20:36:35] <Althego> shadowzone is quite old ksp player

L315[20:37:48] <raptop> Anyway, KSP1 has tons of mods, and there are things like JNO

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L317[20:38:16] <Guest08435> Well, I was banned from the IG discord, so I can't really talk there anymore - but yeah Shadowzone that's right. It's sad that his video got pinned due to lack of official communication.

L318[20:38:16] <Guest08435> JNO doesn't have green aliens I can lob into space without no care in the world that they die, it's just not the same....

L319[20:38:41] <Guest08435> Yeah KSP1 exists, but the graphics of KSP2, paint, wings, ugh. Just, everything we wanted was finally being done.

L320[20:38:44] <Guest08435> Such a shame.

L321[20:38:57] <Guest08435> Interstellar, colonies.

L322[20:41:18] <Eddi|zuHause> either that will happen, or it won't...

L323[20:41:43] <Eddi|zuHause> that was the same before all the trouble, btw.

L324[20:57:13] <Mat2ch> KSP2 would need a whole rewrite.

L325[21:00:29] <Eddi|zuHause> if KSP2 isn't cancelled, but transferred to another studio, that's probably what will happen

L326[21:09:25] <FLHerne> seems unlikely to me

L327[21:10:00] <raptop> It's *probably* cancelled, but there's always the chance that something good will happen.

L328[21:10:13] <raptop> Still, there are other games

L329[21:11:16] <Mat2ch> I haven't finished my latest KSP "playthrough" though.

L330[21:11:19] <Mat2ch> So it's ok.

L331[21:11:40] <raptop> Yeah, there's always the risk of having these big complex missions and then getting distracted by real life

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L333[21:11:50] <Mat2ch> But I need a mod that lets me align multiple docking ports correctly without gaps.

L334[21:12:00] <Mat2ch> I

L335[21:12:12] <Mat2ch> I'm running away from one of those big complex missions

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L340[22:13:19] <raptop> I sorta wonder what our Guest did to get banned from the IG discord

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L343[23:01:18] <Eddi|zuHause> i was too afraid to ask

L344[23:06:22] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L345[23:06:22] <LunchBot> Bob publishes a memoir that is half full of Bob's absurd rantings of a taco being a sandwich. Boom!

L346[23:06:51] <Eddi|zuHause> that escalated quickly

L347[23:07:25] <Eddi|zuHause> fastest flame war ever?

L348[23:27:57] <XXCoder> he acciently sent in one of very early versions and crashed a rocket to get out of embarrassing book

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