OCLogs: 2024-04-19.log

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L9[03:16:03] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L10[03:16:03] <LunchBot> You clear away the junk parts nobody touched in 3 years. Eddi|zuHause explodes, emitting all kinds of deadly simulation games.

L11[03:16:21] <Eddi|zuHause> wow.

L12[03:21:25] <XXCoder> wow

L13[03:21:41] * XXCoder moves chair a little futher away explosive eddi

L14[03:21:57] <XXCoder> *from

L15[03:24:01] <Eddi|zuHause> i've been playing fallout 76 for the free week... so...

L16[03:38:24] <XXCoder> lol

L17[03:38:26] <XXCoder> ;mission

L18[03:38:26] <LunchBot> During an emergency, you activate the Emergency Medical Holographic Program. UmbralRaptor spoons you to death as punishment.

L19[03:38:45] <XXCoder> wow umbral sure hates that halogram doc

L20[03:43:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i can certainly see how some people might find him annoying

L21[03:45:19] <XXCoder> yeah lol

L22[03:45:31] <XXCoder> liked him overall though

L23[04:26:41] <Eddi|zuHause> the best part was when they used him on the enterprise E

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L34[08:37:16] <sandbox> !mission

L35[08:37:16] <LunchBot> You attempt to play marbles with asteroids. You are forced to atone for your crimes against Physics, kerbalkind, and The Kraken.

L36[08:37:30] <sandbox> heh

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L38[09:29:29] <darsie> 4 FPS in the VAB :(. I've restarted several times, even saved in the VAB to avoid something triggering low FPS. Trying reboot ...

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L41[09:33:37] <darsie> 35 FPS

L42[09:56:52] <darsie> .outcome add You get high.

L43[09:56:52] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You get high.

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L45[10:50:59] <FLHerne> .mission add You take off despite your brain being inoperative, contradicting the Minimum Equipment List.

L46[10:50:59] <LunchBot> Added mission: You take off despite your brain being inoperative, contradicting the Minimum Equipment List.

L47[10:52:04] <Althego> hehe

L48[10:52:12] <Althego> minimum equipment, you need a pilo wit ha brain

L49[11:30:35] <darsie> https://0x0.st/Xojl.png

L50[11:31:01] <darsie> .mission add You don't check your staging.

L51[11:31:01] <LunchBot> Added mission: You don't check your staging.

L52[11:31:55] <darsie> .mission add You check staging, electric, comm, engineer, crew.

L53[11:31:55] <LunchBot> Added mission: You check staging, electric, comm, engineer, crew.

L54[11:32:06] <darsie> .mission staging

L55[11:32:06] <LunchBot> You quadruple check your staging before the flight just in case.

L56[11:32:11] <darsie> hehe

L57[11:32:13] <darsie> .mission staging

L58[11:32:13] <LunchBot> You insist that a rocket that solely uses horizontal staging is "unrealistic" and "would never be seriously considered".

L59[11:32:27] <darsie> .mission staging

L60[11:32:27] <LunchBot> You invent butterfly staging.

L61[11:32:30] <darsie> .mission staging

L62[11:32:30] <LunchBot> You invent salami staging.

L63[11:32:32] <darsie> .mission staging

L64[11:32:32] <LunchBot> You invent badger staging.

L65[11:32:34] <darsie> .mission staging

L66[11:32:35] <LunchBot> You experiment with mixed vegetable rocket staging.

L67[11:32:38] <darsie> .mission staging

L68[11:32:38] <LunchBot> In the mission simulator, you fix your staging while fixing your staging.

L69[11:32:45] <darsie> .mission staging

L70[11:32:45] <LunchBot> In an attempt to fix your staging, you fractalize your staging instead.

L71[11:32:49] <darsie> .mission staging

L72[11:32:49] <LunchBot> You forget to check yo' staging.

L73[11:33:19] <darsie> .mission del You don't check your staging.

L74[11:33:19] <LunchBot> Deleted mission: "You don't check your staging."

L75[11:33:40] <darsie> .mission engineer

L76[11:33:40] <LunchBot> You sleep through a lecture in the Kerbal Institute of Engineering.

L77[11:33:42] <darsie> .mission engineer

L78[11:33:43] <LunchBot> On your way home you are low on propellant, so you tell an engineer to go on EVA and remove some superfluous parts like landing legs.

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L85[13:22:21] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L86[13:22:21] <LunchBot> You install DangIt! The energy release catalyzes a vacuum metastability event.

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L90[14:22:26] * darsie arrives at Eve again.

L91[14:44:22] <Eddi|zuHause> so, do i stop playing fallout 76 after the free trial ended, or do i give in to the addictive-making strategies and pay for it?

L92[14:58:19] <sandbox> I never tried it

L93[15:00:07] <sandbox> I had a dream about the tv show, it was a good dream

L94[15:00:13] <Eddi|zuHause> as far as i understood it, they made a free week on behalf of the tv series release

L95[15:00:30] <Eddi|zuHause> and the accompanying steam sale ends in 2 hours

L96[15:01:31] <sandbox> one of the vault dwellers figured out that the vaults were an experiment

L97[15:02:02] <sandbox> I haven't seen any of the show

L98[15:02:56] <Mat2ch> uh, SPOILERs

L99[15:03:58] <sandbox> weird if that actually happens in the show

L100[15:05:19] <Eddi|zuHause> the vaults were actually run by glados the whole time? :p

L101[15:13:18] <darsie> HS-I Deluxe exploded due to overheating. 70 km from Eve capture

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L104[15:58:11] <darsie> Dang, my inflatable heat shield is stuck again. Can't adjust my orbit, cause it's blocking engine exhaust ..

L105[15:58:36] <darsie> A kerbal could get out and push.

L106[15:59:44] <darsie> .mission outcome add A Kerbal gets out and pushes.

L107[15:59:44] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "outcome add A Kerbal gets out and pushes.".

L108[15:59:52] <darsie> .mission add outcome A Kerbal gets out and pushes.

L109[15:59:52] <LunchBot> Added mission: outcome A Kerbal gets out and pushes.

L110[16:06:21] <darsie> EVA is disabled due to an obstacle.

L111[16:11:55] <darsie> At full thrust I could burn away the heat shield with 6 Vectors.

L112[16:12:17] <darsie> But then I can't land at Eve.

L113[16:12:59] <darsie> Have to load a previous t

L114[16:13:01] <darsie> state.

L115[16:51:13] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that was the right command :p

L116[16:51:42] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L117[16:51:42] <LunchBot> You attempt to do a return flight from Jool. The spirit of your demolished rocket has gone to big jeb's junkyard in the sky. But it will soon be reincarnated in a VAB near you!

L118[17:16:35] <Eddi|zuHause> the stars you see in the sky are the souls of past rockets.

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L121[17:28:15] * darsie quits KSP2.

L122[17:28:28] <darsie> closes?

L123[17:30:31] <Eddi|zuHause> well i successfully resisted purchasing fallout 76

L124[17:30:33] <Althego> so how is ksp2 lately?

L125[17:30:44] <Althego> i guess still slow

L126[17:30:49] <Althego> because they mostly gocus on features

L127[17:55:18] <darsie> I get 20-35ish FPS if it doesn't drop down to 3-10.

L128[17:55:37] <darsie> On low graphics settings with a 1660 Ti.

L129[17:55:47] <darsie> I miss proper maneuver planning.

L130[17:56:57] <darsie> Rolling a fallen over rocket on Minmus was awsome. I could see water seeping through the cracks in the ice and hear it.

L131[17:58:11] <Eddi|zuHause> people always talk about "low FPS" but it's never specified if it's because of GPU limitations or CPU limitations

L132[17:59:02] <Althego> 1660 ti is not exactly a champion, so 30 fps is not too bad

L133[17:59:37] <darsie> 30 FPS very playable. But dropping to 4 in the VAB sucks.

L134[18:00:03] <darsie> Then I have to restart it to get more.

L135[18:04:26] <Eddi|zuHause> my personal pain limit for FPS is really really low, but it generally gets annoying below 12fps

L136[18:08:41] <dnsmcbr> I had to complete XCOM2 on 15-20 FPS. I don't know why or how I managed to do that, but it was pretty shockingly bad

L137[18:10:35] <Eddi|zuHause> i think the slowest i ever had was prince of persia 3, when i didn't have a 3D card. that was like 1 frame every 5 seconds :p

L138[18:11:07] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know why that even ran :p

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L140[19:15:16] <XXCoder> so, 5 spf eh

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L144[19:48:27] <dnsmcbr> When your GPU is so shit it turns into sunscreen

L145[19:48:48] <XXCoder> lol

L146[19:57:43] <Eddi|zuHause> well, that was back when dedicated 3D graphics cards were in their infancy

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L151[20:21:41] <packbart> ah, the distinct *click* of the 3D card hooking into the video cable to do its magic

L152[20:30:19] <darsie> 800

L153[20:31:33] <Althego> never had a 3dfx. i was stuck on a 233 mhz pentium until 2003 or so

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L155[20:33:42] <Mat2ch> By then nvidia had taken over

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L157[20:35:42] <packbart> as far as I remember the bloody Voodoo card never worked that well, anyway

L158[20:35:45] <darsie> 700

L159[20:36:23] <packbart> darsie: landing?

L160[20:36:30] <darsie> Eve Ap aerobraking

L161[20:36:48] <Mat2ch> The Voodoo 5 didn't, but before that everything was great

L162[20:37:03] <Mat2ch> if 3dfx would've done things a bit different, they could still be in the market.

L163[20:38:13] <darsie> Dang, forgot to switch back to quertz, activated engines.

L164[20:38:28] <darsie> Back to 800 km.

L165[20:38:43] <packbart> well. I only remember that it was only topped by the AWE32 for most useless money spend on a card ;)

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L167[20:44:42] <Eddi|zuHause> what was wrong with the AWE32?

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L169[20:45:45] <darsie> https://0x0.st/Xop2.png

L170[20:47:35] <cringe> looks like the doomsday machine from star trek

L171[20:47:51] <Mat2ch> If you didn't need the MIDI part of the AWE32 it was overprized

L172[21:24:14] <darsie> 500

L173[21:27:45] <sandbox_> I got upgraded to the full AWE32 from the budget version because the shop didn't have any in stock

L174[21:28:37] <sandbox_> it was good

L175[21:31:05] <sandbox_> I dabbled with most of the software it came with, and I'm no musician

L176[21:32:55] <sandbox_> I even hooked up my sister's old Yamaha keyboard to it

L177[21:33:24] <darsie> https://0x0.st/Xopy.png

L178[21:35:00] <Mat2ch> 180 USD in 1994 for it. Considering inflation this would be 379.35 USD right now.

L179[21:35:51] <sandbox_> I can't remember how much it was... I do remember how much the whole PC cost

L180[21:35:58] <darsie> I might pay 400 EUR for an RTX 4060.

L181[21:36:13] <Mat2ch> The cheapest audio interface from RME is at around 500 USD

L182[21:37:37] <Mat2ch> but RME is on another level... :D

L183[22:08:50] <Eddi|zuHause> afair there was a "gold" version of the AWE32, that featured actual gold plugin ports

L184[22:09:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i had the "normal" version, and it was certainly not that price range

L185[22:11:35] <sandbox_> I remember getting my sister's old Yamaha keyboard to play DOOM's music through the midi port

L186[22:14:43] <dnsmcbr> MIDI ports were black magic

L187[22:14:57] <dnsmcbr> the weird era when you needed to plug your joystick into a sound card

L188[22:15:49] <Eddi|zuHause> back then i tried plugging my CD drive into the sound card.

L189[22:15:56] <Eddi|zuHause> but i failed getting the driver to run

L190[22:16:12] <Eddi|zuHause> partly because i couldn't understand the manual

L191[22:16:54] <Eddi|zuHause> but the computer's IDE port was already occupied with 2 HDDs

L192[22:17:01] <Eddi|zuHause> and the OS was on the smaller one

L193[22:18:30] <sandbox_> the things we did for fun

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L195[22:48:10] <Eddi|zuHause> to play computer games we had to go uphill! both ways!

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L197[22:57:18] <darsie> I don't think the heat shield will get me down to Eve.

L198[22:59:38] <Eddi|zuHause> experiment with different angles?

L199[23:17:08] <darsie> Well, I could get *down*, if I spent much of my ascent fuel. But I have to get back, too.

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L201[23:37:58] <darsie> I spent about 80% of the fuel. The chutes didn't deploy. All dead. Some parts are ok.

L202[23:38:11] <darsie> I guess I should bring drogue chutes.

L203[23:38:48] <Eddi|zuHause> in KSP1 you could tweak deploy moments, i think? never tried