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L2[00:24:34] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i release
the research paper. or i release the xenobacterium. maybe it works
as an aphrodisiac.
L3[00:25:14] <Eddi|zuHause> the origin story
of the dating sim
L4[00:27:15] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean it's from
Eve. the personification of love (probably)
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L15[04:04:37] <FLHerne> .outcome add Given
the option of dying in the game or in real life, the choice is
obvious.
L16[04:04:37] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Given the option of dying in the game or in real life, the choice
is obvious.
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L24[04:55:25] <nshire> what's the deal with
that latam flight
L25[04:55:31] <nshire> turbulence or
mechanical problem?
L26[04:56:04] <Althego> what is latam
L27[04:56:45] <nshire> LATAM airlines
L28[04:57:04] <nshire> "The pilot
stated that all the instrumentation went completely blank and he
lost all of his ability to fly the plane."
L29[04:57:45] <Althego> that is
strange
L30[04:57:49] <nshire> 787 experienced
..some event... which caused the plane to experience negative G for
a moment of time, which sent lose passengers onto the ceiling
before crashing them down to the floor
L31[04:57:56] <nshire> *loose
L32[04:58:03] <Althego> that would mean a
big chunk of the electrical system was out
L33[04:58:45] <Althego> with good design
not all the instruments are on the same circuit
L34[04:58:57] <Althego> so at least some of
them should have been operational, not to mention backup
instruments
L35[05:00:15] <nshire> they probably
are
L36[05:00:31] <nshire> you can't be sure it
was a simple power outage that caused that
L37[05:00:41] <nshire> I'm thinking flight
computer crash
L38[05:01:08] <Althego> that would depend
on what the pilot means with blank
L39[05:01:37] <Althego> mfds have their own
embedded computers to render the visuals
L40[05:01:49] <nshire> so many things can
go wrong to cause the screen to go blank
L41[05:02:23] <Althego> and there are two
cdu/fms is also duplicated
L42[05:02:58] <Althego> so for this to
happen it is extremely strange
L43[05:03:19] <Althego> unless somehow
there is a strange software bug that infests all the computer with
a crash at the same time
L44[05:03:39] <Althego> but even then, the
backup instruments are totally separated an they even have their
own battery power
L45[05:04:25] <nshire> that's why I don't
think it was a simple power cut
L46[05:04:49] <nshire> power supplies and
flight computers are probably all double or triple redundant
L47[05:05:15] <Althego> and typically pilot
and copilot side systems have their own power circuit and bus
L48[05:05:50] <nshire> 787 has 4 power
generators under normal circumstances
L49[05:05:53] <nshire> plus apu
L50[05:06:18] <Althego> if it loses all
powr the ram air turbine is deployed
L51[05:06:22] <nshire> 2 generators per
engine and 2 on the apu
L52[05:06:24] <Althego> it couldnt have
been a total power loss
L53[05:06:38] <nshire> it was pretty much
instantaneous too
L54[05:06:55] <nshire> seemed to come back
online with no user input required
L55[05:07:20] <Althego> i heard a story
about f-22 that all computers crashed when crossing the
international date line
L56[05:08:08] <nshire> an early f22
prototype crashed when someone put a negative instead of a positive
in the autopilot software
L58[05:10:31] <Althego> ah yes i saw this.
full fly by wire systems usually crash in early flights
L59[05:11:52] <nshire> I wonder what kind
of datalink they use for the tactical link nowadays
L60[05:13:08] <nshire> frequency band and
modulation type would be interesting to know
L61[05:13:10] <Althego> radio is usually
frequency hopping for eccm and can also do digitl encryption with
keys held in emergency erasable storage
L62[05:13:34] <Althego> this applies to
voice, text and file transfer
L63[05:13:53] <nshire> I wonder if you
could accurately guess the frequency range by looking at fcc
filings
L64[05:13:55] <Althego> otherwise they are
normal vhf and uhf radios
L65[05:14:50] <Althego> there can also be
hf radio
L66[05:15:15] <nshire> I don't know if that
would have the bandwidth required for targeting
L67[05:15:38] <nshire> they must operate at
at least a few ghz
L68[05:16:20] <Althego> so what do you mean
by datalink then
L69[05:16:54] <Althego> there can also be a
satcom, but that is nothing more than a glorofied phone
L70[05:16:56] <nshire> taclink 16 for
example
L71[05:17:23] <nshire> AWACS can transmit
whole battlefield pictures to planes operating nearby
L72[05:17:45] <nshire> f35 can receive and
transmit targeting data for missiles
L73[05:18:06] <Althego> i dont think it
would need ghz radio for that
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L75[05:37:15] <Eddi|zuHause> bandwidth also
depends on how... wide... the ... band... is
L76[05:52:00] <Althego> technically. but in
reality they are usually limited by standards
L77[05:52:28] <Eddi|zuHause> sure, but
there are loads of "military only" ranges in the
standard
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L219[08:56:04] <Deddly> !nextlunch
L220[08:56:05] <LunchBot> Peanut butter
wrap.
L221[08:56:10] <Deddly> yuck.
L222[08:56:16] <Deddly> !nextlunch
L223[08:56:16] <LunchBot> A couple granola
bars and several liters of gatorade because you're stuck outside
for 8 hours.
L224[08:56:16] <Mat2ch> T-3 hours
/o\
L225[08:56:56] <Deddly> I'm really looking
forward to this.
L226[08:57:06] <Deddly> REALLY hoping for
a 1337 launch
L227[08:57:38] <Althego> hehe
L228[08:57:57] <Deddly> All we need is one
teeny little delay
L229[08:58:11] <Deddly> Someone go get a
boat out there or something
L230[09:01:52] <Althego> hehe
L231[09:02:14] <Althego> if they have to
stop, they do a recycle, that would probably be longer than a few
minutes
L232[09:03:08] <Deddly> >:(
L233[09:03:33] <Deddly> Maybe it's exactly
37 minutes
L234[09:06:59] <Mat2ch> I don't think they
will launch then, but fill it
L235[09:22:22] <FLHerne> bad luck with the
lunches
L236[09:22:25] <FLHerne> !nextlunch
L237[09:22:25] <LunchBot> Vegetable fried
rice.
L238[09:22:52] <FLHerne> I hope today's
launch luck is better than lunch luck :-(
L239[09:40:06] <Althego> !lunch
L240[09:40:07] <LunchBot> Figgy
Duff.
L241[09:40:17] <Althego> funny lokoing
name
L242[09:40:23] <Althego> whatever it
is
L243[09:40:46] <Althego> i thought duff
was the fake beer brand from simpsons
L244[09:40:57] <Althego> and you cant make
beer from figgy
L245[09:41:17] <Althego> or is it
fig?
L246[09:41:18] <Althego> whatever
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L249[09:50:26] <FLHerne> it's a sort of
stodgy pudding with fig bits in
L250[09:50:34] <FLHerne> suet?
L251[09:51:00] <FLHerne> no
L252[09:51:02] <FLHerne> One traditional
recipe lists the ingredients as breadcrumbs, raisins, brown sugar,
molasses, butter, flour, and spices. These are mixed and put in a
pudding bag, wrapped in cheesecloth, or stuffed into an empty can
and then boiled
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L256[10:09:59] <Deddly> <FLHerne>
bad luck with the lunches
L257[10:10:00] <Deddly> I still haven't
finished mine - still have several litres of Gatorade to somehow
get through.
L258[10:15:52] <FLHerne> at least they're
not chlorine trifluoride or something
L259[10:25:58] <Deddly> AAAAAAAAH
L260[10:26:31] <Deddly> Anything with the
fluoride in it terrifies me.
L261[10:27:15] <Deddly> Chlorine
trifluoride... isn't that the one in that crazy tripropellant
rocket engine?
L262[10:28:33] <FLHerne> that just used
raw liquid fluorine
L263[10:28:48] <FLHerne> they used ClF₃ in
some other engines though
L264[10:29:17] <FLHerne> it's a great
oxidizer, possibly too great because it eats most things you can
store it in or handle it with
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L266[10:55:58] <Deddly> Ah right. Liquid
fluorine and liquid lithium <shudders>
L268[11:01:23] <Deddly> Tripropellant
engine developed in Soviet times but it didn't use all three fuels
simultaneously.
L269[11:04:23] <Deddly> First I ever heard
of MAKS. Sounds like it had potential
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L273[11:32:31] <Deddly> No stream
yet?
L274[11:33:35] <Deddly> Or is it the
stream that starts at 12 UTC?
L276[11:34:52] <Eddi|zuHause> Deddly: so
you're afraid of toothpaste?
L277[11:35:17] <sandbox> dentists
L278[11:35:24] <Deddly> Haha nice typo of
mine
L279[11:35:51] <Deddly> Thanks darsie but
I meant the official one
L280[11:36:44] <darsie> Spacex switched to
twitter for their streams.
L281[11:36:50] <darsie> s/twitter/x
L284[11:42:28] <Deddly> Hahaha! We're
getting closer to an actual leet time launch :)
L285[11:43:21] <Deddly> So, stream starts
in about 15-20 mins
L286[11:44:26] <Mat2ch> official SpaceX
stream?
L287[11:45:27] <Deddly> Yeah
L288[11:52:36] <Deddly> Aaw they're
delaying it beyond 1337
L289[11:52:46] <Deddly> BOATS
L291[11:53:33] <Deddly> European people,
that's 14:02
L292[11:53:42] <Deddly> (CET)
L293[11:53:53] <Mat2ch> why is it always
boats?
L294[11:59:27] <Deddly> Because they're
cheaper than helicopters
L295[12:02:55] <Deddly> Big venting going
on
L296[12:03:09] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L297[12:03:09] <LunchBot> Bill goes on an
EVA to repair the failing AE-35 antenna control unit. When asked to
explain your behavior, you can only offer a sheepish chuckle and
the inexplicable craving for cream cheese.
L299[12:03:49] <Deddly> Delayed more
because of the boats
L300[12:04:25] <Eddi|zuHause> Best Of All
TimeS?
L301[12:05:00] <Deddly> :|
L302[12:05:37] <Deddly> Bunches Of
Antagonistic Twits
L303[12:05:39] <Eddi|zuHause> could swap
out for any B-adjective
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L305[12:09:42] <Deddly> I wonder why they
can't have people clearing the exclusion zone from way before the
window opens?
L307[12:13:45] <Deddly> It must be weird
for Tim Dodd to watch and commentate on this when he knows that he
will eventually be flying on it
L309[12:30:00] <Deddly> Another
delay
L310[12:33:00] <Izzy> bluh, would it kill
them to launch rockets at a time convenient for australians
smh
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L313[12:35:07] <Deddly> Izzy, you got roos
and drop bears mate. Too much excitement and the continent wouldn't
be able to take it.
L314[12:35:28] <raptop> Maybe. Didn't SLIM
land at a similar time
L315[12:35:33] <raptop> ?
L316[12:36:09] <Izzy> hmm I guess there
isn't really a convenient time is there
L317[12:37:11] <Eddi|zuHause> australia
and usa are probably horrible timezone wise
L318[12:37:31] <darsie> 1337
L319[12:37:52] <Eddi|zuHause> assuming you
want to launch during daylight hours
L320[12:38:34] <Deddly> I can just imagine
a video appearing on Youtube in a few years time by the How
Ridiculous guys; "How many Starships can we fire a cannonball
through from the top of this dam?"
L321[12:44:15] <raptop> yep, the lander
landed at 15:20 UTC (00:20 JST, 01:20 AEST)
L322[12:46:24] <Izzy> well, I must bed.
hope the launch is spectacular
L323[12:47:46] <Deddly> Seeya Izzy. Sorry
you have to miss it
L324[12:50:32] <Deddly> T-35
L325[12:52:04] <raptop> \o
L327[13:05:13] <Deddly> T-20
L328[13:06:21] <Deddly> Weather, range and
vehicle are Go
L329[13:07:29] <Mat2ch> SpaceX added a
flowerpot to the ship reentry animation...
L330[13:08:10] <packbart> which is just
disrespectful to poor Agrajag
L331[13:08:14] <packbart> :)
L332[13:08:28] <Althego> lol
L333[13:08:35] <Deddly> Haha I missed
that
L334[13:09:48] <Deddly> That camera
looking up at the engines is so single use...
L335[13:10:12] <Mat2ch> depends on the
glass in front of it ;)
L336[13:10:24] <Althego> not
necessarily
L337[13:10:50] <Althego> for example you
could put a mirror below the engines and look at the mirror
L338[13:10:54] <Deddly> Transparent
aluminium
L339[13:11:02] <Deddly> Oh yeah, mirrors
exist
L340[13:11:17] <Deddly> T-14
L341[13:11:18] <Althego> and then only the
mirror is destroyed
L342[13:20:25] <Deddly> T-5
L343[13:21:06] <Mat2ch> woah, we are
really getting close /o\
L344[13:24:19] <cringe> tf elon shillin
crypto
L345[13:24:23] <Deddly> 60 SECONDS
L346[13:24:34] <Deddly> cringe, you are on
a fake stream
L347[13:24:43] <cringe> yeah, figured that
out
L349[13:24:58] <cringe> that was
wild
L350[13:25:32] <cringe> perty rocket
L351[13:26:59] <cringe> so many
engines
L352[13:30:31] <Pinkbeast> Hang on, the
real Elmo's a cryptocurrency weirdo too
L353[13:30:59] <cringe> yeah, which
probably means its a very lucrative scam
L354[13:31:48] <cringe> the classic
"double your money"
L355[13:32:12] <Pinkbeast> Mmm, I'm not
not sure you can infer it's a fake stream from him shilling crypto.
Maybe if he _just_ shills crypto and doesn't go on about creepy
conspiracy theories you know it's a fake Elmo. :-)
L356[13:32:37] <raptop> Guess the booster
hit the ocean at mach 1?
L357[13:33:48] <cringe> unforch
L358[13:34:34] <Mat2ch> for some reason
they didn't ignite the engines early enough
L359[13:35:59] <cringe> it happens
L360[13:36:27] <Mat2ch> lost some tiles.
Could be survivable though
L361[13:36:39] <cringe> speaking of, i
need mechjeb for ksp2
L362[13:36:45] <cringe> tryin to be a
filthy casual over here
L363[13:37:00] <raptop> cringe: k2-d2 does
at least some stuff
L364[13:37:09] <cringe> yeah, not quite
the same
L365[13:37:54] <cringe> smooth jazz
time
L366[13:38:15] <Deddly> I missed what they
just said. How long until next event?
L367[13:38:23] <Mat2ch> ~30 min
L368[13:38:32] <Mat2ch> doing a deorbit
burn?!
L369[13:40:36] <Deddly> Aren't they going
to show the door test etc?
L370[13:42:48] <Mat2ch> Did just
now.
L371[13:43:18] <Mat2ch> doing something
very German: airing out the rocket. :D
L372[13:53:22] <Deddly> I missed the
door
L373[13:55:04] <Mat2ch> the camera didn't
show it very well. Mostly the moisture inside got sucked out
L374[13:55:14] <Mat2ch> (technically it
moved itself out)
L375[13:55:51] <Deddly> There's the
door!
L376[13:56:07] <Althego> you could see the
sunlight coming in to the inside of the rocket
L377[13:56:10] <Althego> that was the
door
L378[13:56:25] <Althego> at least that is
what i saw
L379[13:56:32] <Deddly> It was wiggling
around
L380[13:56:33] <Althego> might have been
an external view for a few seconds
L381[14:00:07] <Mat2ch> it was really
wiggling around
L382[14:00:15] <Mat2ch> doesn't look like
the best design for a door.
L383[14:00:31] <Mat2ch> But on the other
hand it just has to be really closed on launch, back down the bay
is empty.
L384[14:01:10] <Mat2ch> and some are
calling the rotation barbequeing, others say it lost control
:P
L385[14:13:24] <Althego> most amazing
reentry shots ever
L386[14:13:35] <Althego> although its
movement looked kind of recless before the heating started
L387[14:16:01] <Mat2ch> I think they lost
control...
L388[14:16:08] <Deddly> WOW that plasma
was incredible to see
L389[14:16:09] <Mat2ch> maybe the
thrusters froze
L390[14:16:26] <Mat2ch> Deddly: That are
shots we've never seen before! And with we I mean humanity
L391[14:16:40] <Deddly> Exactly!
L392[14:29:45] <Deddly> Looks like they
lost it
L393[14:31:00] <Rokker> no other reentry
vehicle has been able to look at itself reentering
L394[14:31:39] <Deddly> That was quite a
moment
L395[14:38:10] <Deddly> Getting on-board
views all the way up on both the booster and Starship was also
pretty incredible
L396[14:38:41] <Deddly> And Booster's
reentry was terrifyingly fast
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L403[16:49:48] <Mat2ch> so... wen scott
vido?
L404[17:00:28] <darsie> He was guest at
NSF.
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L407[17:05:40] <Mat2ch> Oh, I didn't see
him there :(
L408[17:06:16] <darsie> Marcus House,
too.
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L410[17:38:18] <packbart> I watched the EA
stream. He flogs his merch, too, but not quite as annoying as the
spaceflight guys :)
L411[17:40:02] <Althego> electronic
arts?
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L415[17:55:34] <raptop> !outcome add The
thermals run away from you.
L416[17:55:34] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
The thermals run away from you.
L417[17:55:41] <packbart> Althego:
Everyday Astronaut
L418[17:55:49] <raptop> !outcome add You
probably should have tuned that PID controller better.
L419[17:55:49] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You probably should have tuned that PID controller better.
L420[18:00:40] <Althego> mission add YOu
decide to replace all PID controllers with state feedback
control.
L421[18:00:45] <Althego> .mission add YOu
decide to replace all PID controllers with state feedback
control.
L422[18:00:45] <LunchBot> Added mission:
YOu decide to replace all PID controllers with state feedback
control.
L423[18:00:49] <Althego> eh a typo
L424[18:01:25] <Althego> .mission
s/YOu/You/
L425[18:01:25] <LunchBot> No mission found
matching "s/YOu/You/".
L426[18:01:27] <Althego> eh
L427[18:02:00] <nshire> 1000 kph
hydrobraking
L428[18:02:10] <nshire> impressive
L429[18:02:34] <raptop> Normally you don't
reach peak hydrodnamic pressure when you're in the transsonic
regime, but here we are
L430[18:02:57] <raptop> !mission fixup
s/YOu/You/
L431[18:02:58] <LunchBot> New text is: You
decide to replace all PID controllers with state feedback
control.
L432[18:03:05] <raptop>
*hydrodynamic
L434[18:14:10] <nshire> I wonder if any
debris will be recoverable
L435[18:14:59] <nshire> oh it did do a
landing burn?
L436[18:15:05] <nshire> camera feed cut
out with only 2 engines on
L437[18:15:11] <FLHerne> .mission add You
ask your competitors to collude against the Space Bureau in some
kind of altruistic reverse price-fixing scheme that happens to
benefit you.
L438[18:15:11] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You ask your competitors to collude against the Space Bureau in
some kind of altruistic reverse price-fixing scheme that happens to
benefit you.
L439[18:15:44] <FLHerne> nshire: Not
really, I think that was the point of failure
L440[18:16:04] <nshire> last frame I saw
was 0km altitude 1000kph
L441[18:16:11] <raptop> Or, my
hydrodynamic joke might be wrong and it broke up from aerodynamic
forces
L442[18:16:45] <nshire> I feel like if it
made it that far it probably wasn't aero
L443[18:17:15] <nshire> 400m RUD sounds
like FTS
L444[18:18:08] <raptop> hm
L445[18:22:05] <Mat2ch> nshire: I wouldn't
fully believe the onscreen display they showed
L446[18:22:33] <Mat2ch> they seem to make
some basic approximations in case the flight data isn't
received
L447[18:23:32] <Mat2ch> also they really
lost control of the vehicle and only the flaps made it possible to
even attempt a controlled reentry. That's interesting and could
mean that the next flight will be suborbital as well.
L448[18:28:58] <FLHerne> Yeah, I'd expect
IFT-4 to be roughly a repeat
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L450[19:27:01] <Mat2ch> The Scott Manley
video is already an hour old?!
L451[19:27:56] <raptop> That was
fast
L452[19:28:56] <raptop> I'm guessing that
the main goals for IFT-4 will be in systems testing, especially
control-related?
L453[19:30:26] <sandbox> you were
slow
L454[19:30:41] <raptop> Good thing I'm not
making videos
L455[19:32:19] <sandbox> I watched it 26
mins after the upload
L456[19:32:37] <sandbox> it was sooner
than I expected
L457[19:41:50] <darsie> Later than
announced, I guess.
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L462[22:05:03] <Azander> !mission
L463[22:05:04] <LunchBot> After several
thousand hours of KSP, you set out to make your own space program.
MechJeb uses your rocket as a battering ram.
L464[22:05:19] <Azander> sounds about
right
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L467[22:12:42] <packbart> didn't adjust
MJ's PID
L468[22:14:51] <sandbox> Concorde
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L470[23:00:14] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L471[23:00:15] <LunchBot> You throw some
feces into the fan to see what happens. You don't see your rocket
launch due to buffering.
L472[23:01:08] <Eddi|zuHause> if the s*
hits the fan, but nobody is around to see it...
L473[23:02:56] <XXCoder> feces probably
coated the camera lens anyway
L474[23:03:01] <XXCoder> or the
screen
L475[23:23:29] <ergZay> so people playing
ksp, are you more often playing ksp or ksp2 right now?
L476[23:24:08] <cringe> myself, ksp more
than ksp2
L477[23:24:57] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure
i fall in this category. i haven't really played ksp in years, and
i don't own ksp2
L478[23:25:13] <sandbox> ^
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L480[23:25:24] <Eddi|zuHause> mic drop
:p
L481[23:25:44] <cringe> ksp2 is far from
ready for extended game play, things just stop working as expected
after a while
L482[23:25:56] <cringe> addtionally, the
mod scene isn't there yet
L483[23:26:03] <cringe> not really
L484[23:28:29] <packbart> I like watching
some streamers play KSP 2 while I stick to my multi-modded KSP 1
:)