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L3[00:58:02] <Neal> 3000ms lag to esper

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L17[03:17:34] <packbart> also https://sattrackcam.blogspot.com/2023/11/where-did-starship-fragments-end-up.html

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L25[06:46:59] <Neal> any word on whether it was an FTS that killed starship

L26[06:54:14] <Althego> probably, it was way past max q

L27[06:54:24] <Althego> neither spacex nor elon said anything on twitter

L28[06:56:15] <Althego> here is scott's video if you havent seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2C7xE9Mj4

L29[07:01:09] <Neal> seems plausible it was blown up to prevent large debris from falling on africa

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L44[11:42:03] <Mat2ch> oh, I think the Starship booster ran fuel rich. It left so much unburnt carbon behind that you could see a black cloud

L45[12:20:08] <darsie> I don't think that's intentionaly (if it actually happened). I guess they want more CO/H2. Soot particles have extremely low Isp.

L46[12:21:20] <darsie> Hmm, but the exhaust gases do drag them along.

L47[12:21:59] <darsie> CH4 is also lighter than CO2.

L48[12:22:10] <darsie> Or CO

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L50[12:28:39] <Mat2ch> there's a black cloud trailing behind if you rewatch the stream

L51[12:28:49] <Mat2ch> maybe better to see from a different angle

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L53[13:50:04] <FLHerne> .mission add Yu switch tu fonetic speling.

L54[13:50:05] <LunchBot> Added mission: Yu switch tu fonetic speling.

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L59[15:25:54] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: It's wirdli reedabel

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L63[18:18:05] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L64[18:18:06] <LunchBot> You water your rocket garden with a J-404 Panther in wet mode. Bananas are now wildly out of scale.

L65[18:25:29] <FLHerne> .mission add You don't cut corners, but you ergonomically round them.

L66[18:25:30] <LunchBot> Added mission: You don't cut corners, but you ergonomically round them.

L67[18:26:37] <Eddi|zuHause> you build a colani rocket?

L68[18:27:24] <Pinkbeast> Hope he turned out to be better at rockets than locomotives

L69[18:29:47] <Eddi|zuHause> i have a colani laptop

L70[18:31:21] <Pinkbeast> http://computermuseum.wiwi.hu-berlin.de/cat.php?id=lapt34&type=Laptops ?

L71[18:31:23] <Mat2ch> 10.4" display. How luxury

L72[18:32:26] <Mat2ch> back in the day when there were big plastic brackets around the display, because the keybard was so huge.

L73[18:32:36] <Mat2ch> These days it's the other way around

L74[18:33:00] <Pinkbeast> (this re https://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/05/extravagant-designs-by-luigi-colani.html which, IDK, he may have been good at other things but that is not a shape you can make a steam locomotive)

L75[18:33:55] <Althego> lol

L76[18:35:56] <Mat2ch> Why does this remind me of B&O audio stuff?

L77[18:36:12] <Mat2ch> Function follows design...

L78[18:37:45] <Pinkbeast> Not convinced by the rockets lower down either - the reason it's a stupid locomotive is that (unlike automobiles) almost all the available volume is made up of engine and fuel, and much the same is true of rocketry.

L79[18:38:04] <Pinkbeast> There's a limit to how pretty you can make something that really has to be a great big cylinder.

L80[18:43:30] <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: yes, exactly this design, there was a tower design as well

L81[18:44:54] <Pinkbeast> Fortunately laptops don't have to be great big cylinders :-)

L82[18:45:12] <Althego> hehe

L83[18:45:18] <Althego> imagine the cylinder laptop

L84[18:45:25] <Althego> it would roll on the desk

L85[18:45:45] <Pinkbeast> Actually the last place I worked still had some of the cylindrical desktop Macs

L86[18:46:19] <Althego> oh the what was it trashcan that overheated?

L87[18:47:26] <Pinkbeast> That's the one

L88[18:48:34] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8th2J3c88mU

L89[18:49:43] <Pinkbeast> (oh and while I'm complaining, the leaning-over wheels, who came up with _that_ one?)

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L101[23:48:38] <FLHerne> .outcome add Your pressurized cylindrical fuel tanks are somehow wobbling like wet noodles. You'd think any visible flex would result in buckling and collapse, but apparently not.

L102[23:48:39] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your pressurized cylindrical fuel tanks are somehow wobbling like wet noodles. You'd think any visible flex would result in buckling and collapse, but apparently not.

L103[23:49:09] <Az> !mission

L104[23:49:09] <LunchBot> You petition the KSC cafeteria to serve nuclear pasta. You are filled with deuterium.

L105[23:49:31] <Az> Guess I convinced them

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