OCLogs: 2023-11-06.log

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L1[00:16:44] <FLHerne> The resulting spacecraft fleet uses far too much gravity at once, tripping the breaker.

L2[00:16:52] <FLHerne> .outcome add The resulting spacecraft fleet uses far too much gravity at once, tripping the breaker.

L3[00:16:52] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The resulting spacecraft fleet uses far too much gravity at once, tripping the breaker.

L4[00:21:31] <FLHerne> hm

L5[00:23:23] <FLHerne> .outcome fixup s/breaker./planetary breaker. At least you can reset it yourself -- if you overloaded the main solar fuse it would need a tech callout from the gravity company.

L6[00:23:24] <LunchBot> Format for `fixup` should be s/<old>/<new>/

L7[00:23:27] <FLHerne> .outcome fixup s/breaker./planetary breaker. At least you can reset it yourself -- if you overloaded the main solar fuse it would need a tech callout from the gravity company./

L8[00:23:27] <LunchBot> New text is: The resulting spacecraft fleet uses far too much gravity at once, tripping the planetary breaker. At least you can reset it yourself -- if you overloaded the main solar fuse it would need a tech callout from the gravity company.

L9[00:23:30] <FLHerne> bleh

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L12[01:02:08] <raptop> Urgh, I don't want to think of what the next gravity bill is going to be

L13[01:15:48] <Izzy> this will be terrible for the economy

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L15[01:51:54] <packbart> we're never going to pay back the increasing entropy debt, anyway

L16[02:29:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i think that's one of the laws of thermodynamics :p

L17[02:30:11] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L18[02:30:11] <LunchBot> You launch the KASA Marmite Explorer. FLHerne's spacebar breaks.

L19[02:30:43] <Eddi|zuHause> a bar brawl in the space bar about marmite? :p

L20[02:30:57] <Izzy> too many stages required to get enough dV out of yeast extract

L21[02:47:13] <XXCoder> ;mission add You try to lower gravity to save money.

L22[02:47:13] <LunchBot> Added mission: You try to lower gravity to save money.

L23[02:47:24] <XXCoder> ;mission

L24[02:47:24] <LunchBot> You use Blackboard to explain your findings to your fellow kerbals. Scolar_Visari no longer recognizes you as a Son (and/or Daughter) of Kerbin.

L25[02:47:40] <XXCoder> hmmm

L26[03:27:55] <Eddi|zuHause> you might have done a blasphemy or something equally outrageous

L27[03:37:29] <XXCoder> hymm maybe one of symbols was offensive'

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L33[04:23:57] <XXCoder> ;mission

L34[04:23:57] <LunchBot> You research quantum flubber sneakers. AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'outcome'

L35[04:24:13] <XXCoder> it quantium tunneled away

L36[04:25:39] <Althego> jeje

L37[04:25:44] <Althego> hehe

L38[04:25:58] <Althego> a python outcome

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L57[11:32:47] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L58[11:32:47] <LunchBot> You ask "what's the worst that could happen?" out loud. The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus.

L59[11:32:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i deserved that.

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L61[11:33:57] <Althego> hehe

L62[11:39:31] <sandbox> !mission

L63[11:39:32] <LunchBot> You outsource the assembly of your rockets to a group of garden gnomes on steroids. A hungry red fox gets loose in your capsule, eats all your snacks, and bites you when you try to stuff it back into the cargo bay.

L64[11:42:22] <packbart> could have been worse, could have been a big bad wolf

L65[11:42:54] <Eddi|zuHause> or an evil stepmother.

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L69[14:04:42] <KrazyKrl> ;outcome add Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

L70[14:04:42] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

L71[14:15:01] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome file

L72[14:15:01] <LunchBot> The linux file manager starts on boot.

L73[14:15:57] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add FileNotFound.

L74[14:15:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: FileNotFound.

L75[14:36:23] <Mat2ch> !mission

L76[14:36:23] <LunchBot> You replace your rocket's wiring with a Type III superconductor. Betty gives you a sink rate of ★★⯪☆☆.

L77[14:36:36] <Althego> what is type 3 superconductor?

L78[14:37:50] <Mat2ch> I have no idea. But Betty is not interested in it

L79[15:28:06] <Eddi|zuHause> google only knows III-V semiconductors

L80[15:29:08] <Althego> completely different

L81[15:29:39] <Mat2ch> the joke is that there is no type II superconductor.

L82[15:30:31] <Eddi|zuHause> so it's like "these amps go to 11" type of joke?

L83[15:31:14] <Althego> well, there can be, we just dont know it yet. type ii was a surprise too

L84[15:40:59] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L85[15:40:59] <LunchBot> You outsource the assembly of your rockets to a group of garden gnomes on steroids. Kerbals nuke Earth from orbit, just to be sure.

L86[15:41:39] <Eddi|zuHause> the overclocked gnomes seem to have gotten out of hand

L87[15:47:12] <Mat2ch> Garden gnomes should be nuked from orbit.

L88[16:09:05] <FLHerne> .outcome add It's fortunate that your cargo includes a shipment of carbide-tipped circular saws.

L89[16:09:05] <LunchBot> Added outcome: It's fortunate that your cargo includes a shipment of carbide-tipped circular saws.

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L93[18:12:48] <sandbox> !mission

L94[18:12:49] <LunchBot> You run out of duct tape. Bob is perturbed.

L95[18:29:47] <Eddi|zuHause> one would assume Bill is the duct tape guy

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L98[19:05:19] <Mat2ch> !mission add You take the mission assignment to intercept an asteroid too serious.

L99[19:05:19] <LunchBot> Added mission: You take the mission assignment to intercept an asteroid too serious.

L100[19:11:59] <packbart> inter-ception!

L101[19:12:20] <darsie> what?

L102[19:17:28] <raptop> !mission

L103[19:17:28] <LunchBot> You attempt to ascend from Kerbol's surface. You miss your skew-flip and collide wtih Eve at 40 km/s.

L104[19:17:53] <raptop> Okay, it's pretty funny that *that* is where things go wrong

L105[19:22:06] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L106[19:22:06] <LunchBot> You submit a budget request using a mix of Comic Sans and Papyrus. You hit a bubbled Steven Universe with your spaceplane.

L107[19:35:02] <Mat2ch> who the heck is Steven Universe?

L108[19:35:59] <Althego> i hate the algerian font with passion

L109[19:36:09] <Althego> i never got why people hated comic sans

L110[19:36:19] <Althego> but algerian, mand i hate that

L111[19:37:01] <Althego> probably because it wasnt unicode and many people liked it, and made all sorts of signs with incorrect accents, since it lacked ő and ű

L112[19:38:50] <Mat2ch> Nah, I just hated it because it's not "clean".

L113[19:41:38] <packbart> Steven can summon an incredibly durable bubble. The bubble encases him and others that he is protecting.

L114[19:41:48] <packbart> https://steven-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Steven_Universe_(character)

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L117[20:19:18] <Eddi|zuHause> there was a time when comic sans was used completely unironically, before it became a meme to hate on it

L118[20:43:00] <FLHerne> .mission You are pressured into consuming just one wafer-thin mint.

L119[20:43:00] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "You are pressured into consuming just one wafer-thin mint.".

L120[20:43:04] <FLHerne> .mission add You are pressured into consuming just one wafer-thin mint.

L121[20:43:05] <LunchBot> Added mission: You are pressured into consuming just one wafer-thin mint.

L122[20:46:53] <darsie> .mission mint

L123[20:46:53] <LunchBot> You taste Minmus to see if it really is mint ice cream.

L124[20:46:56] <darsie> .mission mint

L125[20:46:56] <LunchBot> You start a business selling Minmus mint ice cream.

L126[20:46:58] <darsie> .mission mint

L127[20:46:58] <LunchBot> You taste Minmus to see if it really is mint ice cream.

L128[20:47:00] <darsie> .mission mint

L129[20:47:00] <LunchBot> You start a business selling Minmus mint ice cream.

L130[20:47:02] <darsie> .mission mint

L131[20:47:02] <LunchBot> You are pressured into consuming just one wafer-thin mint.

L132[20:48:45] <raptop> !outcome cil

L133[20:48:45] <LunchBot> Apple's largest production facility is mysteriously melted by boosters.

L134[20:48:48] <raptop> !outcome cila

L135[20:48:49] <LunchBot> You converted Minmus from mint to cilantro.

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L138[21:15:27] <Eddi|zuHause> is that a monty python reference?

L139[21:16:12] <raptop> the wafer-thin mint looks like one

L140[21:16:23] <raptop> the cilantro is one of the many bad outcomes I've added

L141[21:16:39] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i meant the wafer one

L142[21:17:10] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L143[21:17:10] <LunchBot> You grab a kerbal with two Klaws. You install automated farming and manufacturing equipment, break down Kerbals and use their biomass for other purposes.

L144[21:17:35] <Eddi|zuHause> that is... weirdly coherent

L145[21:18:00] <Eddi|zuHause> but maybe backwards

L146[21:21:51] <raptop> yeah

L147[21:24:30] <darsie> Could a mod spawn arbitrary parts in 'flight'?

L148[21:25:39] <packbart> Possibly. Contracts do

L149[21:25:53] <packbart> or what are you looking for?

L150[21:26:15] <darsie> not sure. Just chatted with ChatGPT about self replicating machines ...

L151[21:27:02] <darsie> Maybe add a part to the game that requires resources to spawn parts.

L152[21:29:03] <packbart> GC or EL

L153[21:29:09] <darsie> hm?

L154[21:29:51] <packbart> GlobalConstructions and Extraplanetary Launchpads are mods that have parts "that requires resources to spawn parts". or whole vessels or subassemblies

L155[21:30:10] <packbart> possibly self-replicating

L156[21:30:59] <packbart> (although they need at least one egineer-in-a-can but that can be an internal can with all hatches obstructed :)

L157[21:31:26] <packbart> nothing a patch couldn't fix, though

L158[21:31:42] <darsie> :) An engineer is fine.

L159[21:31:58] <darsie> Yeah, a launch pad spawns rockets.

L160[21:33:46] <Mat2ch> Duplicating engineers should be possible with some of the habitat mods. :D

L161[21:34:53] <darsie> Engineers spawn all over the place.

L162[21:34:57] <packbart> I only ever built one ISRU base with an internal non-replaceable engineer

L163[21:37:41] <Pinkbeast> "For the love of God, Montresor!"

L164[21:45:51] <packbart> darsie: the main "problem" is that resources are infinite

L165[21:46:25] <darsie> Why is that a problem? We still need to extract them with a drill or so.

L166[21:46:38] <packbart> I could see how to script a vessel that drill for ore (add more converter chain if you want) and once it has a certain amount, makes a copy of itself that seeks out a new place to drill

L167[21:47:05] <packbart> but that will just spawn an infinite number, infi-eventually

L168[21:47:23] <packbart> Kerbin will not be consumed into computronium

L169[21:47:24] <darsie> Yeah, it might grow exponentially.

L170[21:48:30] <darsie> Exponential growth may be incompatible with circular growth.

L171[21:49:37] <darsie> But we don't need too many resources/parts.

L172[21:50:21] <darsie> Putting one replicator on every body might be too boring.

L173[21:53:09] <darsie> Hmm, maybe I could make a Tylo ground<->orbit shuttle with high TWR, refuelling on Tylo.

L174[21:54:21] <darsie> Hmm, I guess that would have to be two stage, like Starship.

L175[21:54:45] <darsie> Need a first stage landing mod.

L176[21:55:12] <darsie> kos automated :)

L177[21:57:06] <Mat2ch> Tylo is easy to do with one stage

L178[21:57:11] <Mat2ch> even without refueling

L179[21:57:24] <Mat2ch> Without the atmosphere it's just a matter of size

L180[21:57:36] <darsie> But a shuttle has to go to orbit and then land, too.

L181[21:57:50] <Mat2ch> Make it even bigger :D

L182[21:58:16] <darsie> It might require more stages, yes.

L183[22:00:47] <darsie> I wondered how realistic a generic orbit (or even deorbit) kos script would be. Calculating the ascent from the stage masses, fuel, engines.

L184[22:02:55] <Izzy> my "deorbit from station" script uses trajectories to aim a craft at the KSC using a node to lower the Pe to just above the atmosphere and another to drop it to 55000 once it's just above the atmosphere

L185[22:03:46] <darsie> Also a script for a fast ascent and dock with station would be cool :).

L186[22:04:30] <darsie> Like rendezvous with the station with the circularization burn.

L187[22:06:23] <packbart> MechJeb used to do that with "launch to rendezvous". I haven't tried it in a while

L188[22:06:53] <Izzy> I haven't got that but I have one that minimises the delay between circularisation and the transfer burn

L189[22:06:55] <packbart> I had a kRPC script for that. Launch with MechJeb, approach station, activate docking autopilot

L190[22:07:16] <Izzy> needs less precision on ascent

L191[22:07:22] <Pinkbeast> MechJeb isn't really doing deep analysis of the ship, though, it just assumes you built something capable

L192[22:07:49] <packbart> aye. parameter adjustments might be needed

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