L17[03:54:21] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr6XMnH_7RE psyche launch on falcon heavy, in about 10 hours

L23[07:43:11] <XXCoder> ;mission

L24[07:43:11] <LunchBot> You install all of the realism mods. Even Danny2462 thinks you're crazy.

L25[07:43:22] <XXCoder> whoa too much realismn

L26[07:46:08] <Althego> hehe

L40[09:48:11] <Mat2ch> Althego: Thanks for the link. Would've missed that

L41[09:53:26] <Althego> still could be a weather scrub. no tweet from spacex for a while now

L43[11:05:31] <kremlin> hihi, dumb question..

L44[11:06:21] <kremlin> you know how you can't transmit "through a planet" ?

L45[11:06:49] <kremlin> e.g. the face of whatever surface site is to receive isn't pointing at you, you lose your connection?

L46[11:07:27] <kremlin> is the solution to this, to have 3-4 satelites in the same orbit, equally spaced, or something similar?

L47[11:07:31] <kremlin> with large antennas

L48[11:09:35] <Izzy> one could say, build a satellite network?

L49[11:10:02] <kremlin> yes, what is the KSP term for this?

L50[11:10:10] <kremlin> i am looking for e.g. a wiki page

L51[11:10:15] <Izzy> pretty sure it's just called building a satellite network

L52[11:10:21] <Althego> you dont need large antennas. i just put hg-5 on them

L53[11:10:23] <Izzy> I found a spreadsheet to do the maths for the orbits for me on a youtube video

L54[11:10:40] <Althego> and repurpose old contract satellites

L55[11:11:43] <Izzy> at some point I should Fully Automate the satellite deployment because half the time the Ap is on the far side of a given body when I'm setting up a satellite net so I have no connection >.> thankfully I can usually quickload and make a maneuver node for kOS to execute

L57[11:39:11] <darsie> kremlin: 2 sats may suffice.

L58[11:39:31] <darsie> in high orbit

L59[11:40:18] <darsie> I sync their orbital periods to ms precision with KER.

L60[11:42:29] <Pinkbeast> There's a mod to spend monoprop in the tracking station to do very fine orbital adjustments, handy if KSP is in a "maybe I'll make your orbit wander a bit" mood

L61[11:45:08] <darsie> For very tiny orbital period changes I don't blow straight pro/retrograde, but go to (anti)normal and tilt very slightly pro/retrograde.

L62[11:46:04] <darsie> with 0.5% engine thrust and short, minimal throttle pulses.

L63[11:53:42] <kremlin> i c

L64[12:10:26] <FLHerne> kremlin: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Setting_up_a_CommNet_system is a relevant wiki page, but not much detail

L65[12:10:33] <kremlin> FLHerne: tyty

L66[12:11:30] <FLHerne> kremlin: and this with more detail https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Ideal_Orbits_for_Communication_Satellites

L67[12:13:21] <FLHerne> a bit of advice here too https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/CommNet#Connections_through_relays

L69[12:37:01] <sandbox> 1337

L70[12:37:10] <darsie> .

L71[12:37:15] <darsie> 1437

L72[12:45:47] <Mat2ch> Weather 85 % favorable, they say

L73[12:47:31] <darsie> define favorable.

L74[12:48:44] <darsie> In Vienna it's 27 C on October 13. That wipes out a lot of species.

L75[12:52:26] <Mat2ch> 1:30 h left

L76[12:52:28] <Mat2ch> almost

L77[12:52:44] <darsie> then what?

L78[12:52:44] <Mat2ch> It's rather warm here, too.

L79[12:52:49] <Mat2ch> Falcon Heavy launch

L80[12:53:02] <darsie> ahh, psyche?

L81[12:53:10] <Mat2ch> I haven't had to use the heating in here...

L82[12:53:16] <Mat2ch> maybe next week,

L83[12:53:34] <Mat2ch> yes, Psyche

L84[12:53:38] <SporkWitch> it was 30C here just a week or two ago; absolutely ridiculous. I'm near the Canadian border, it should not be 30 in october

L85[12:53:45] <Mat2ch> Last year I had to turn on heating at the end of September...

L86[12:54:05] <Mat2ch> But climate change is a hoax and Earth is flat!

L87[12:54:45] <SporkWitch> AGW isn't a hoax, but the remaining activists are liars and extremists.

L88[12:56:10] <SporkWitch> that question was settled with the Berkley Earth project, which was the last legitimate scientific criticism of the veracity of AGW. But the activist organizations, more accurately their employees, didn't want to find new jobs, so they have to lie and create a need for their ongoing existence to get people to keep paying them, hence all the "world is ending in 10 years" nonsense

L89[13:20:45] <SporkWitch> Everyday Astronaut streaming the Pscyhe Falcon Heavy launch. Stream starting in ~9 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxJv3Ekrl0

L90[13:33:23] <darsie> nasa stream live

L91[13:33:35] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

L92[13:51:23] <kremlin> hmm, is ther a part that just saps power for no reason, to test a nuclaer reactor's performance?

L93[13:51:51] <darsie> kremlin: Any computer draws a little.

L94[13:52:00] <Althego> maybe some electric motor?

L95[13:52:05] <darsie> Lights, too, IIRC.

L96[13:52:34] <kremlin> kk

L97[13:52:42] <darsie> A refinery if you have ore, too.

L98[13:52:50] <darsie> and receiving tanks.

L99[13:52:59] <Althego> you can put the ore in the tanks in the vab

L100[13:53:03] <darsie> Engineers will increase productivity and energy consumption.

L101[13:54:35] <darsie> reaction wheels if you use them.

L102[13:54:43] <kremlin> Ooh, putting a ton of empty batteries is working

L103[13:54:51] <darsie> yeah

L104[13:55:38] <darsie> Are you playing career? Completed the tech tree?

L105[13:56:31] <kremlin> Science mode

L106[13:56:52] <darsie> KSP1?

L107[13:57:44] <kremlin> yep

L108[13:58:02] <darsie> Go career :)

L109[13:58:37] <darsie> I forgot, what's science mode? That's not sand box, right?

L110[13:58:54] <kremlin> No money but you still have to earn science to unlock the tech tree

L111[13:59:09] <darsie> ic

L112[13:59:56] <darsie> I ran out of money once in career and had to restart.

L113[14:00:28] <kremlin> I tried career but I moved to science b/c I was sick of launching the same boring sats

L114[14:03:08] <darsie> The last few times I started career I had an efficient path to fully upgrade all buildings and complete the tech tree. Quite different from all the messing around with various contracts and getting familiar with KSP.

L115[14:03:21] <kremlin> Hmm, I should give it another shot

L116[14:04:00] <darsie> I could tell you my efficient path, but that might make you miss out on messing with other stuff.

L117[14:29:36] <Mat2ch> Running out of money in career mode? How...

L118[14:30:08] <Althego> you can spend so much that you cant afford the next mission

L119[14:30:10] <Mat2ch> it's quiet easy to get much money: Do the basic contracts. They give you enough money for everything

L120[14:30:34] <Mat2ch> And if you want to max out the science tree... go farming. ;)

L121[14:31:25] <Mat2ch> Get all the science from Kerbin, then go to the Mun, land on every Biome (bring a refueler!), then go back to Kerbin. Now you should have enough science points to get the lab.

L122[14:31:49] <Althego> minmus is a science treasure chest

L123[14:31:56] <Althego> easy to hop around, bigger multiplier

L124[14:31:58] <Mat2ch> Do the same thing with Minmus, but work on the science in the lab. Is tedious, but will max out the science tree, before you even have to go to Duna...

L125[14:32:09] <Mat2ch> *It is

L130[16:56:12] <Mat2ch> My Munlander keeps sliding down the slope of a crater...

L131[16:56:42] <Mat2ch> Someone at the KSC had fun with the teflon gun. Again.

L132[16:59:49] <Mat2ch> (and painted the whole Mun apparently)

L133[17:03:25] <Althego> but you can now nail a docking port to the fround

L134[17:06:40] <Mat2ch> Didn't bring one...

L135[17:06:47] <Mat2ch> I totally forgot about that, too :D

L136[17:07:08] <Mat2ch> Well, time to plant the flag and go home.

L137[17:11:42] <sandbox> am I still the only person who took flags to space?

L139[17:20:42] <Mat2ch> flags to space?

L140[17:21:07] <sandbox> yes

L141[17:21:39] <Mat2ch> how?

L142[17:23:53] <sandbox> it's a secret...

L143[17:24:18] <Mat2ch> technically a flag on the Mun is one in space, too.

L144[17:25:00] <Althego> i think flags can fall

L145[17:25:07] <Althego> then they are just movable objects

L146[17:25:10] <sandbox> you plant them on your ship

L147[17:25:13] <Althego> and you can collect them and take them

L148[17:27:02] <sandbox> build a rocket with a flat piece just above the ground

L149[17:27:20] <sandbox> you can plant as many flags as you like on it

L150[17:28:17] <sandbox> they soon fall off in flight

L151[17:43:26] <Mat2ch> That's sad.

L152[17:43:37] <Mat2ch> But you could build a bucket and keep them in. :D

L153[17:43:44] <sandbox> exactly

L154[17:45:38] <Althego> hehe. in early career once i needed to test a stack separator. but i also didnt want to leave orbital debris, and i didnt have most of the parts. so i built a cage around it from metal plates

L158[17:48:53] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI1DYyz0r1M

L160[18:32:34] <Mat2ch> Althego: I remember doing things like that, too.

L161[18:32:41] <Mat2ch> Or bringing a claw to immediately catch it

L162[18:33:29] <kremlin> ah

L163[18:33:32] <Althego> one of the most horrible retreival missions. had to collect a huge decoupler, you have to eyeball the ring, otherwise you just fly through in the middle

L164[18:33:43] <kremlin> so that is why you do not use weapons grade uranium in a nuclear reactor

L165[18:33:51] <kremlin> (it works too well)

L166[18:35:29] <Mat2ch> Althego: at least somewhat realistic :D