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L9[03:27:17] <Izzy> I feel less bad about my
programming troubles given how much trouble everyone IRL has with
their spacecraft software
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L11[03:28:08] <Althego> hehe
L12[03:28:19] <Althego> lot of neglected
real life problems in a game
L13[03:28:34] <Althego> for example you
dont need to worry about fuel sloshing in ksp
L14[03:29:29] <Althego> early apollo
landers had undesired oscillations in the control loop causing lot
of actuation in the rcs system
L15[03:29:37] <Althego> because of the
fuel
L16[03:32:22] <Izzy> I'm sure there's a mod
for use with RO that implements it ;)
L17[03:32:33] <Mat2ch> RSS tries to at
least simulate it for igniting the engines.
L18[03:40:21] <Izzy> My issue is that I'm
... number-blind? Don't have the intuitive understanding that would
make the sort of numerical control programming kOS involves
easy.
L19[03:40:38] <Althego> probably nobody has
that
L20[03:40:59] <Izzy> most people are better
at it than me x-x
L21[03:41:00] <Althego> pid is one of the
most deceptive controllers, looks easy, and in reality tuning it is
hard
L22[03:41:29] <Izzy> no I mean any maths at
all, I'm awful at it
L23[03:41:58] <Izzy> I brute-force
everything and let the game do the maths
L24[03:42:18] <Izzy> rather than
calculating orbits I adjust manuever nodes and check the results
the game gives me
L25[03:43:10] <Althego> that is also true
of most people in genral, math is hard
L26[03:43:37] <Althego> also there is no
royal road in mathematics
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L31[05:54:25] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L32[05:54:25] <LunchBot> You launch the
largest rocket possible from the smallest and least improved pad.
You wonder what Jebediah most fears -- that dead Kerbals can send
messages to the living, or that they can't.
L33[05:55:31] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
neither?
L34[05:55:59] <Althego> he fears
nothing
L35[05:56:12] <Althego> or maybe the
possibility he cant fly again
L36[05:56:36] <Eddi|zuHause> probably not
true either, but he doesn't seem like the type that worries about
this stuff
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L40[06:28:00] <Althego> the stream from
yesterday was killed off just now, so this is a new one
L41[07:07:05] <sandbox> !mission
L42[07:07:05] <LunchBot> You accidentally
refer to interstellar space as The Furthest Ring. The Queen is
yeeted off of the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
L43[07:07:21] <sandbox> which queen?
L44[07:09:58] <packbart> The Queen of The
Furthest Ring
L45[07:13:48] <Mat2ch> Uh, thanks for the
link!
L46[07:16:10] <Mat2ch> "Standing down
from today's launch attempt, next available opportunity is
Saturday, September 2"
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L53[09:46:47] <darsie> .mission fixup s/off
of/of/
L54[09:46:47] <LunchBot> No
recently-mentioned mission found matching "off of".
L55[09:46:58] <darsie> .outcome fixup s/off
of/of/
L56[09:46:58] <LunchBot> New text is: The
Queen is yeeted of the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
L57[09:47:06] <darsie> dang
L58[09:47:20] <darsie> .outcome fixup
s/yeeted of/yeeted off/
L59[09:47:20] <LunchBot> New text is: The
Queen is yeeted off the surface of the earth at 8km/s.
L60[09:47:51] <darsie> .outcome fixup
s/earth/Earth/
L61[09:47:51] <LunchBot> New text is: The
Queen is yeeted off the surface of the Earth at 8km/s.
L62[09:48:49] <darsie> .outcome fixup
s/8km/8 km/
L63[09:48:50] <LunchBot> New text is: The
Queen is yeeted off the surface of the Earth at 8 km/s.
L64[09:54:27] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L65[09:54:27] <LunchBot> You plan a mission
while debating hot button issue in chat. Unfortunately your
heatshield doesn't block neutrinos.
L66[09:54:46] <Eddi|zuHause> button was too
hot?
L67[09:55:05] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission fixup
s/hot/a hot/
L68[09:55:05] <LunchBot> New text is: You
plan a mission while debating a hot button issue in chat.
L69[09:55:10] <Althego> what is hot
button?
L70[09:55:44] <Eddi|zuHause> a thing that
is likely to cause split opinions and hot debates
L71[09:55:48] <raptop> the sort of issues
that get into loud angry arguments. Often politics related
L72[09:56:45] <Eddi|zuHause> sort of
related to "pressing buttons" as an analogy to trigger
someone to respond emotionally
L74[09:56:54] <Mat2ch> and you shouldn't
think of a computer button here, but of a real button. That is red
hot.
L75[09:57:08] <Mat2ch> iirc
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L84[13:01:33] <KrazyKrl> ;outcome add
Luckily the asbestos isn't flammable.
L85[13:01:34] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Luckily the asbestos isn't flammable.
L86[13:03:30] <raptop> You know exactly
what oxidizers are about to come up
L87[13:06:28] <Althego> it is, if you use
the correct materials :9
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L91[13:49:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm seeing an
"F" in my mind
L92[13:52:47] <Althego> in some
variations
L93[13:54:07] <Eddi|zuHause> you mean,
like, different fonts?
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L96[13:55:26] <Althego> like FOOF and
ClF3
L98[14:08:15] <XXCoder> ;mission
L99[14:08:15] <LunchBot> You decide to do
nothing today. [DATA EXPUNGED]. Most of the remains were never
recovered.
L100[14:08:23] <Althego> hehe
L101[14:08:28] <XXCoder> man should have
gotten busy
L102[14:08:32] <Althego> what dangerous
nothing
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L106[14:24:50] <Mat2ch> raptop: Weird
reality you peaked into.
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L110[14:59:50] <raptop> XXCoder: Maybe it
was just something else breaching containment
L111[15:00:11] <raptop> Mat2ch: It'll
probably be good eventually. In the mean time, KSP1 has neat
stuff
L112[15:01:40] <XXCoder> maybe, but my
idleness made it worse
L113[15:24:21] <Azander> !mission
L114[15:24:21] <LunchBot> Jeb's
hibernation suit fails mere weeks into his return journey from
Eeloo. Through years of total isolation in the blackness of space,
his mind is warped beyond recognition. A landing leg fails, pinning
Bob to the terrain.
L115[15:24:53] <XXCoder> not too bad
considering how bad jeb mind was warped while he was piloting
L116[15:25:35] <Azander> maybe he thought
he was an engineer for a while
L117[15:26:08] <raptop> For all we know,
Jeb could have sabotaged the landing leg
L118[15:26:23] <XXCoder> even so still not
too bad lol
L119[15:36:29] <Eddi|zuHause> my bet is on
jeb having torture fantasies
L120[15:36:42] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L121[15:36:42] <LunchBot> You claim that a
gravity turn is a hard 45 degree pitchover at 10 km altitude.
Luckily, the micro black hole dissipated quickly.
L122[15:37:12] <XXCoder> few steps
missing, but probably spin ship too fast and it turned into
microblackhole
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L125[16:49:35] <Eddi|zuHause> well,
usually my rockets just disassemble during ascend, if i rotate them
too fast...
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L130[18:33:53] <X> All my rockets broke so
I just gave up
L131[18:34:10] <X> I'll wait for someone
more competent than I to make some heavy lift rockets that work on
bad machines.
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L133[18:35:12] <Eddi|zuHause> moar
struts!
L134[18:35:48] <Eddi|zuHause> (or more
aerodynamic surfaces to minimize shear forces)
L135[18:43:23] <packbart> or maybe a good
machine
L136[18:57:18] <X> That was understatement
lol I have 12th gen i7 and a 3070. It should run fine.
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L139[19:37:33] <Eddi|zuHause> that's like
10 years newer than my machine
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L150[23:00:32] <Izzy> yeah, 4770 and R7
260X in a trenchcoat here
L151[23:01:07] <Izzy> ngl I never really
get to heavy lift rockets, kinda just build everything in orbit
from 10t segments
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L153[23:38:11] <X> my other machine is a
4770k and a 2070s with at least one stick of bad ram
L154[23:42:54] <Izzy> this is a SFF
optiplex so I'm somewhat restricted for GPU choice; ended up with a
W4300, and hey, the RAM kit I got for it had one bad stick :D