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L9[03:34:23] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L10[03:34:23] <LunchBot> Your boss doesn't understand the concept of asynchronous communication -- annoying enough in normal email, but now you're on Laythe... Perhaps you should have double checked your staging first.
L11[03:34:58] <Eddi|zuHause> is it suggesting i should have ditched the boss during staging?
L12[03:35:09] <Althego> hehe
L13[03:35:21] <raptop> I think this means that due to a communications error, there was a staging error and now you're stranded on laythe
L14[03:35:29] <raptop> ...or in orbit
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L17[03:48:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i think i like my interpretation better
L18[03:51:30] <XXCoder> boss stage is annoying
L19[03:52:43] <raptop> heh
L20[03:55:18] <Althego> hehe boss stage
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L38[09:45:50] <sandbox> !mission
L39[09:45:51] <LunchBot> You state that a plan to shoot a laser at the asteroid is like “shooting a b.b. gun at a freight train.” You exceed kmath's flood limit.
L40[10:05:23] <packbart> A stream of pellets will eventually erode the rock
L41[10:06:02] <darsie> And/or increase the asteroid's mass.
L42[10:07:01] <darsie> Shooting an asteroid with a laser will increase it's mass temporarily.
L43[10:07:10] <darsie> its*
L44[10:20:00] <NGC3982> how?
L45[10:20:53] <Althego> or it will decrease it by evaporating a part of the asteroid
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L48[10:30:16] <darsie> NGC3982: m=E/cc
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L57[11:08:03] <NGC3982> energy divided by the speed of light times two?
L58[11:08:58] <darsie> Yes. Derives from E=mcc
L59[11:09:08] <darsie> no, squared, not times 2.
L60[11:10:02] <NGC3982> ah, so illuminating something effectively adds mass to it?
L61[11:10:14] <darsie> If it absorbs teh light, yes.
L62[11:10:21] <NGC3982> that's exciting
L63[11:10:32] <darsie> :)
L64[11:10:39] <Mat2ch> it really is exciting the molecules...
L65[11:10:41] <NGC3982> it seems rather counter intuitive
L66[11:10:44] <darsie> Raditing the heat away reduces mass.
L67[11:10:53] <NGC3982> but that seems to be the math so why not
L68[11:11:02] <packbart> it's a bit virtual, too
L69[11:11:32] <Mat2ch> mass is virtual as well. Not what we all think
L70[11:11:40] <Mat2ch> we think of it being like lifting a stone or something
L71[11:11:42] <darsie> Shining light onto matter also imparts impulse. I've changed Jupiter's orbit several times with my green laser.
L72[11:11:44] <Mat2ch> but that's not mass...
L73[11:11:57] <Althego> lol
L74[11:12:14] <Althego> a tiny change
L75[11:12:21] <darsie> :)
L76[11:12:31] <NGC3982> but, in reality, would evaporating something actually decrease the mass in the long run? given how that particular paper that went viral described that it wouldnt really help to -nuke- asteroids since they would simply reform again, evaporating stuff from asteroids to reduce mass seems hard work
L77[11:12:44] <packbart> darsie: well, eventually all those probes on slingshot orbits are going to slow down even Jupiter!1
L78[11:12:57] <NGC3982> i guess you would need to transport the vapour away or convert it to radiation or something
L79[11:13:01] <darsie> packbart: Not eventually. They do so every time.
L80[11:13:28] <darsie> NGC3982: If teh evaporated stuff leaves the asteroid, the remnant is lighter, yes.
L81[11:13:43] <NGC3982> but it's in space and the asteroid has gravity
L82[11:14:09] <darsie> If someone shines a laser on Earth, evaporating some water, Earth gains mass due to the energy gained, assuming the water does not leave Earth.
L83[11:14:14] <NGC3982> evaporated stuff will either reform with the asteroid or will need to be transported away, right?
L84[11:15:00] <darsie> If Voyager shines radio waves on Earth, Earth gains mass.
L85[11:15:11] <packbart> is a vaguely asteroid-shaped cloud of rocks better or worse than one large rock?
L86[11:15:11] <Mat2ch> NGC3982: Depends on the energy
L87[11:15:31] <Mat2ch> if it reaches escape velocity, it's gone.
L88[11:15:36] <NGC3982> yes
L89[11:15:40] <NGC3982> "transported away"
L90[11:15:51] <Mat2ch> If not then it can enter orbit or will just fall back
L91[11:15:54] <NGC3982> what do you call the process where atoms turn into energy?
L92[11:16:00] <Mat2ch> the question is: How long will it take to get back
L93[11:16:13] <NGC3982> a part of evaporation is converting something into heat
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L95[11:16:25] <darsie> packbart: For mining a rubble pile may be easier.
L96[11:16:30] <NGC3982> and heat is radiation and ..massless?
L97[11:16:35] * NGC3982 is confusing himself
L98[11:16:45] <Mat2ch> I'd define evaporation differently.
L99[11:16:53] <Mat2ch> Making something so hot it turns into a gas
L100[11:17:01] <darsie> Heat is energy. Doesn't have to be radiation.
L101[11:17:04] <Mat2ch> the atoms are still there
L102[11:17:07] <NGC3982> ah
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L104[11:17:30] <darsie> Heat can transfer from one thing to another. Or radiate through space.
L105[11:17:44] <packbart> binding energy is magic
L106[11:17:51] <Mat2ch> But redirecting asteroids will be most likely the solution. Discorver them early, send some controllable mass near it, let gravity do the redirect
L107[11:18:35] <darsie> That requires an ion drive. An impact is probably much easier.
L108[11:19:06] <darsie> ISRU ion propulsion would be cool.
L109[11:19:27] <darsie> Like mining magnesium and pushing the asteroid around with it.
L110[11:19:33] <packbart> some molecules attract two other molecules at specific sites, a third at another, some energy bounces across and the two first molecules bind together while the third drops off some Phosphorus
L111[11:19:42] <packbart> ze mind boggles
L112[11:20:21] <packbart> enzymes are magic users
L113[11:20:27] <darsie> I write cc instead of c^2 because it's easier/faster.
L114[11:20:41] <packbart> well, there is a ²
L115[11:20:45] <packbart> :)
L116[11:21:03] <darsie> ²
L117[11:21:19] <darsie> windows-shift-6-2
L118[11:21:30] <darsie> cc
L119[11:21:58] <darsie> 9.80665 m/ss
L120[11:23:11] <darsie> mm is ambigous
L121[11:23:28] <darsie> cc could be centi c.
L122[11:23:44] <darsie> 10 cc :)
L123[11:23:52] <darsie> Instead of 0.1 c :)
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L125[11:37:02] <darsie> 1337
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L127[11:41:52] <Izzy> well.
L128[11:42:01] <Izzy> the Radeon Pro W4300 cannot run KSP with scatterer.
L129[11:42:07] <Izzy> it can run it without scatterer just fine though.
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L131[11:56:14] <Izzy> in addition, while doing so, it keeps your coffee warm!
L132[11:57:30] <Izzy> Need to figure out how to unlock the settings on it so I can undervolt it, because it is toasty with stock settings.
L133[12:45:51] <sandbox> !mission
L134[12:45:51] <LunchBot> You speak the Discouraging Word. The skies cloud ominously. You succeed catastrophically.
L135[12:48:53] <XXCoder> whoo
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L137[12:53:05] <KrazyKrl> ;8ball should i install my new CPU now, instead of tonight?
L138[12:53:05] <LunchBot> I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
L139[12:53:41] <KrazyKrl> ;8ball are you actually Val in disguise?
L140[12:53:41] <LunchBot> Нет.
L141[12:59:33] <KrazyKrl> reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuW0_jryrwk
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L143[15:05:22] <BadCoder> ;8ball why do you talk in russia
L144[15:05:22] <LunchBot> .
L145[15:05:29] <BadCoder> dot? seriously?
L146[15:05:32] <BadCoder> alr
L147[15:06:37] <Althego> why do you talk anywhere else? for communication
L148[15:07:31] <darsie> .
L149[15:08:13] <darsie> 8ball is for yes/no questions.
L150[15:08:50] <darsie> ;8ball Does Spock win against lizard?
L151[15:08:51] <LunchBot> By Friday at the latest.
L152[15:12:13] <raptop> !8ball Will it rain?
L153[15:12:14] <LunchBot> When hell freezes over, or just after.
L154[15:12:19] <raptop> whelp
L155[15:13:13] <Althego> to me cold held would be more of a hell than hot hell
L156[15:14:57] <darsie> Wanna go to Mars?
L157[15:15:17] <Mat2ch> !8ball Will it get colder soon?
L158[15:15:17] <LunchBot> Not likely.
L159[15:15:21] <Mat2ch> Dang
L160[15:15:48] <Mat2ch> !8ball Will this summer be as hot as last year?
L161[15:15:48] <LunchBot> Of course not.
L162[15:15:56] <Mat2ch> Good.
L163[15:16:35] <FLHerne> Very good
L164[15:16:45] <FLHerne> too hot here already
L165[15:16:50] <Althego> yes, it will be hotter :)
L166[15:16:52] <Mat2ch> There's still a loop hole.
L167[15:17:03] <Althego> havent you noticed that recently the last year is the hottest year on record?
L168[15:17:07] <Mat2ch> !8ball Will this summer be hotter than last year?
L169[15:17:07] <LunchBot> It's bound to happen eventually.
L170[15:17:25] <Mat2ch> Althego: I have seen that.
L171[15:17:29] <Mat2ch> And that it could get hotter
L172[15:17:52] <Mat2ch> but this year the first heat wave is two weeks later than last year.
L173[15:22:23] <raptop> something something randomly sampling from exp((μ-x/σ)²), but μ is slowly increasing
L174[15:23:48] <Althego> hehe it has been a while since i last saw that
L175[15:24:39] <Althego> there was an 1/σsqrt(2pi) or something like that too
L176[15:26:24] <raptop> Yeah, I'm ignoring basically all the constants that get it to integrate to 1
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L184[20:51:19] <KrazyKrl> ;8ball are you going to give me a good ;mission?
L185[20:51:26] <KrazyKrl> blargh
L186[20:51:48] <XXCoder> aw the fun bot is out
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L189[21:29:09] <Mat2ch> !mission
L190[21:29:18] <Mat2ch> still out :(
L191[21:31:02] <raptop> The bot's owner decided to take it down because of stuff in another channel
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L193[21:39:27] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: Sad :(
L194[21:48:03] <XXCoder> sucks :(
L195[22:22:55] <FLHerne> tbh it'll probably be back (again) sometime
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L197[22:33:27] <raptop> I assume you're looking for a way to jan-proof it or something
L198[22:46:43] <FLHerne> nah, there's no vandal-proofing a completely user-content-driven bot
L199[22:47:06] <FLHerne> I guess I could add user bans that aren't trivially circumvented
L200[22:47:40] <FLHerne> but mostly it wouldn't make a point to kill it for five minutes :p
L201[22:48:11] <FLHerne> I'd bring it back just here but I'm on my phone in bed now :p
L202[22:52:23] <raptop> hah
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