L1[00:25:12] <raptop> unsure

L3[00:41:09] <XXCoder> well jeb sure wont let me forget that

L4[00:42:24] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add Up up and away.

L5[00:42:24] <LunchBot> Added mission: Up up and away.

L6[00:44:03] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add The horoscope said to broaden your horizon.

L7[00:44:03] <LunchBot> Added mission: The horoscope said to broaden your horizon.

L8[00:54:44] <raptop> So if I adjust Kerbin's diameter...

L9[00:58:30] <XXCoder> 700km is just too small lol

L10[01:06:30] <raptop> To be fair, kerbin's diameter is 1200 km

L11[01:06:48] <XXCoder> oh i see

L12[01:06:55] <XXCoder> earth is at 10k I think

L13[01:07:20] <XXCoder> so its still sigificantly smaller. I guess kerbin core is larger and much more dense

L14[01:07:58] <XXCoder> 3,474.8 km moon of earth

L20[03:09:52] <raptop> meanwhile elsewhere: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063135188261019749/1112050784801128448/kerb.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063135188261019749/1112129746738888764/image.png

L21[03:20:53] <XXCoder> romnace lol

L22[03:21:01] <XXCoder> so, its rockets, planes and dating?

L26[04:01:35] <FLHerne> .mission add You invent the world's least vegan jet engine.

L27[04:01:35] <LunchBot> Added mission: You invent the world's least vegan jet engine.

L28[04:02:23] <FLHerne> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65727664

L29[04:03:11] <FLHerne> .mission add You believe yourself to have transcended conventional morality.

L30[04:03:11] <LunchBot> Added mission: You believe yourself to have transcended conventional morality.

L55[09:37:08] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L56[09:37:08] <LunchBot> You resurrect an onion with malicious intent. Reddit implodes. It may or may not be your fault.

L57[09:37:53] <Eddi|zuHause> oh the shitstorm is real.

L58[09:39:12] <XXCoder> well its somehow probably not your fault lol

L59[09:39:29] <XXCoder> ;mission

L60[09:39:30] <LunchBot> You dive deep into Jool in pursuit of helium-3. Jeb's EVA takes a wrong turn and leads to the destruction of the Mün.

L61[09:39:55] <XXCoder> wow thats way wrong direction

L62[09:42:00] <Eddi|zuHause> somehow i doubt "it's not my fault" will ease the shitstorm

L63[09:42:56] <XXCoder> yeah

L64[09:43:04] <Eddi|zuHause> i somehow want to see jeb on an EVA in jool atmosphere

L65[09:45:04] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add Some guys in trenchcoats ask you to launch this device into LKO, but they're very vague on what it does.

L66[09:45:04] <LunchBot> Added mission: Some guys in trenchcoats ask you to launch this device into LKO, but they're very vague on what it does.

L68[09:49:23] <packbart> more vague than typical contract descriptions? :)

L69[09:53:56] <Eddi|zuHause> but that's a guy in a labcoat. totally different.

L70[09:54:31] <Eddi|zuHause> actually, i don't remember what gene wears...

L79[11:36:46] <Azander> !mission

L80[11:36:47] <LunchBot> You launch a mission to capture the Deep Space Kraken. The marzel-vanes detach from the ambifacient wane shaft, and your turboencabulator succumbs to side-fumbling.

L84[11:56:59] <sandbox> !mission

L85[11:56:59] <LunchBot> You give the applicant kerbals jobs painting the rockets a lovely scarlet. You can't prove you aren't a chatbot.

L89[12:12:32] <Eddi|zuHause> side-fumbling is nasty

L90[12:17:32] <darsie> Hello! I apologize for any confusion caused by my previous message being mistaken as a bot. I assure you that I am a human using AI technology to assist with providing accurate and helpful responses. I'm here to engage in meaningful conversations and address any questions or concerns you may have. Please feel free to ask anything, and I'll do my best to assist you!

L91[12:18:12] <Mat2ch> darsie: Let's pretend I'm the admin.

L92[12:19:46] <darsie> As the chat admin, I want to clarify any misunderstandings and assure you that I am a real person, not a bot. I understand that my previous message may have created confusion, but I assure you that I am here to facilitate and moderate this chat. My intention is to ensure a smooth and enjoyable experience for all participants. If you have any concerns or questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to me directly. Thank you for yo

L93[12:19:47] <darsie> ur understanding, and I look forward to continuing our conversation.

L94[12:20:58] <Mat2ch> darsie: I'm the admin of you and command you to land on Eve and get back. In a single-stage.

L95[12:23:25] <packbart> "sudo return from Eve"?

L96[12:28:22] <FLHerne> .mission add You run your craft's entire control interface inside a web browser.

L97[12:28:22] <LunchBot> Added mission: You run your craft's entire control interface inside a web browser.

L98[12:28:51] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: SpaceX is doing something like that...

L99[12:29:31] <FLHerne> I know, that's why I wrote it

L100[12:30:06] <darsie> Mat2ch: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1281588

L101[12:33:38] <Mat2ch> ChatGPT is such a nonsense. It makes up a perfect mission without knowing anything about Eve. Leaving everything out that might complicate the thing. No design of the craft, not mentioning that even aerobreaking at Eve can kill you...

L102[12:34:19] <darsie> I might use an inflatable heat shield for Eve entry.

L103[12:35:20] <darsie> and capture

L104[12:36:02] <darsie> Does using drill and refiney count as single stage?

L105[12:36:07] <darsie> r

L106[12:36:10] <Mat2ch> for an ssto? Those are usually huge. The heat shield has to be huge, too. But that also means your CoL is at the back, which will turn your craft around

L107[12:36:24] <Mat2ch> Drill and refinery are allowed, but can't be ditched.

L110[12:50:08] <packbart> hm. indeed, why did ChatGPT assume launching from Kerbin and returning there was part of the mission?

L111[12:51:16] <Mat2ch> Because that's what ChatGPT does. It looks for the Solution with the heighest probability. Usually people launch from Kerbin first.

L112[12:51:26] <packbart> "land on Eve and get back. In a single-stage" - could be just a small lander, launched from the tourist bus

L113[12:51:42] <Mat2ch> It isn't creative or thinking. Just takes what it was taught and replies that.

L114[12:52:16] <packbart> aye

L116[12:56:28] <darsie> I think I specified to start/end at Kerbin. I've deleted the chat already, though, so I'm not 100% sure.

L117[12:57:10] <packbart> Humans... can't even follow instructions ;)

L123[13:20:38] <sandbox> !mission

L124[13:20:39] <LunchBot> You launch a spaceplane powered by antimatter scramjets. An inspector draws Jeb's attention to a low pressure gauge, to which he brightly replies that the needle is "on its second time around."

L126[13:39:11] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L127[13:39:11] <LunchBot> You can't see why the last mission is funny. Corium pools in the basements under the launch complex.

L128[13:39:40] <Eddi|zuHause> that outcome a verb.

L130[13:49:37] <darsie> There, female dogs: https://0x0.st/HbTl.37.webm That was harder than expected.

L131[13:51:46] <darsie> like and comment

L132[13:52:07] <darsie> packbart: Mat2ch

L133[13:53:41] <darsie> umm, wrong.

L134[13:53:43] <darsie> Don't watch.

L135[14:05:49] <darsie> There: https://0x0.st/HbTd.35.webm I landed on Eve and got back in a single stage.

L136[14:06:22] <darsie> CO2 neutral

L137[14:06:51] <darsie> not considering construction

L138[14:08:15] <raptop> hm

L139[14:08:46] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think it was specified where your starting/end point should be

L140[14:09:32] <darsie> Well, I had to pick one.

L141[14:10:26] <darsie> First I was criticized to pick Kerbin.

L142[14:13:36] <darsie> Would a motor turn the propeller one way and the ship the other way?

L143[14:14:53] <raptop> They normally tend to I think?

L144[14:14:56] <Eddi|zuHause> one would expect that. actio=reactio

L145[14:15:09] <raptop> Certainly I've had problems so that I need to setup counter-rotating systems

L146[14:15:39] <darsie> Are there mods for saturating RWs?

L147[14:16:28] <Mat2ch> darsie: how does that thing get to orbit? ;)

L148[14:16:39] <darsie> shift-F12

L149[14:16:58] <darsie> It never was in orbit, though.

L150[14:55:15] <packbart> darsie: there are but I never played with them

L151[14:55:21] <packbart> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/200480-191-1101-1111-semi-saturatable-reaction-wheels/

L152[14:55:24] <packbart> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/154658-18-mandatoryrcs-18-part-pack-14-reaction-wheels-nerf-sas-persistence-rotation-in-timewarp/

L154[15:49:34] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L155[15:49:34] <LunchBot> You grok the ground. The last thing you hear is "John Madden" and "AEIOU" repeated over and over.

L156[15:52:39] <raptop> Specifically the ground being the lunar surface I guess

L157[15:54:41] <Eddi|zuHause> that last part could be a setup for an EU4 campaign

L158[16:20:11] <raptop> !outcome add Suboptimal.

L159[16:20:11] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Suboptimal.

L160[16:20:31] <Mat2ch> !mission

L161[16:20:32] <LunchBot> Mission Control asks you to do a near flyby of the star. Cat fur is everywhere.

L162[16:20:52] <Mat2ch> raptop: you really want that two word mission/outcome combo...

L163[16:21:10] <Mat2ch> Looks like the star in this show is a cat.

L164[16:45:12] <raptop> heh

L165[16:51:50] <raptop> !mission

L166[16:51:50] <LunchBot> You assign Jeb to Collins Duty. They find classified documents in your failed project pile.

L169[18:15:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i still don't know what Collins Duty is...

L170[19:02:31] <sandbox> they are doing this kind of thing again https://www.flightradar24.com/PC6T/30855db8

L172[19:07:31] <Mat2ch> mapping flights

L177[19:50:41] <Eddi|zuHause> what's that supposed to be? a cruise ship?

L178[19:52:52] <raptop> Collins Duty being staying back and minding the orbiter, instead of landing on the target body.

L181[20:27:46] <Eddi|zuHause> aanyway... one would expect that the failed projects are even more classified than the successful ones :)

L182[20:30:25] <sandbox> !mission

L183[20:30:25] <LunchBot> You equip your aircraft with small thermobaric missiles to thwart idiots with laser pointers. For no good reason, Aerospikes have replaced the standard LV-909s.

L184[21:24:15] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L185[21:24:15] <LunchBot> You're not stupid, but you think your customers are. Your SRBs are liquidated.

L186[21:25:43] <Mat2ch> lol

L187[21:30:25] <sandbox> !mission

L188[21:30:25] <LunchBot> You successfully land an alfredo rocket on the Mun, a first for Kerbalkind. The mission is a success, but your efforts went unnoticed: everyone was watching a cool new TV show.

L189[21:44:04] <packbart> Probably a cooking show

L190[21:53:26] <raptop> yum

L194[23:13:59] <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: after Michael Collins on Apollo 11

L195[23:31:36] <Eddi|zuHause> well, i don't really know all those astronaut names