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L15[01:17:31] <UmbralRaptop> !mission add
You engage in undefined behavior.
L16[01:17:31] <LunchBot> Added mission: You
engage in undefined behavior.
L17[01:17:52] <UmbralRaptop> !outcome add
The garbage collector deletes your rocket.
L18[01:17:53] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The
garbage collector deletes your rocket.
L19[01:22:26] <JVFoxy> someone been playing
a bit too much Space Engineers?
L20[01:23:14] <JVFoxy> Although.. its more
called 'trash removal' there
L21[01:25:33] <UmbralRaptop> Jusst adding
programming-related silliness
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L35[07:49:51] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L36[07:49:52] <LunchBot> You replace your
TPS with surplus ERA. You are thrown out the airlock.
L37[07:50:57] <Eddi|zuHause> dangit, should
be a better imposter next time
L38[07:51:21] <Althego> those test
procedures must be taken really seriously
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L41[09:01:53] <Mat2ch> Stream on for hours
:D
L42[09:05:31] <Althego> need to generate
content for income
L43[09:05:48] <Althego> but starting this
many hours before the event seems to be useless content
L44[09:06:08] <Althego> there is also
L46[09:07:32] <Mat2ch> It's just the NSF
community having fun together
L47[09:07:42] <Mat2ch> also they can
overanalyze every single venting that way :D
L48[09:08:15] <Mat2ch> They have almost 22k
viewers
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L50[09:47:53] <Mat2ch> There's a Starship
plushie?!
L51[09:48:07] <Althego> there is a starship
lighter
L53[09:48:48] <Althego> it isnt
ergonomic
L54[09:49:22] <Mat2ch> and 10 sites to
allow to load JavaScript from. They can build rockets, but not
websites :D
L55[09:49:34] <Althego> hehe
L56[09:49:53] <Althego> the crew dragon uis
is soem webpage running in chrome
L57[09:50:05] <Mat2ch> 175 USD for a small
batch series is a rather good price. I expected more
L58[09:50:34] <Mat2ch> I know and I hate
it.
L59[09:50:55] <Mat2ch> There are so many
good toolkits out there to make good UIs and they chose
HTML+JS
L60[09:51:43] <Mat2ch> What better to take
than an over complex system, where you will never be able to
understand how it works and has an unknown memory fingerprint
and...
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L65[10:34:53] <Mat2ch> Official stream
link.
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L69[11:37:00] <darsie> 1337
L71[11:51:20] <Althego> and this is
labpadre
L72[11:51:40] <Althego> now darse you can
collect them all into one page again
L74[11:55:53] <Althego> added the
links
L75[11:56:09] <darsie> thx
L76[11:56:27] <Althego> i also have a 5th
one with a vtuber :)
L77[11:58:09] <darsie> put it there
:)
L78[11:59:59] <darsie> :)
L79[12:01:24] <Althego> you can never know
the name order
L80[12:01:47] <Althego> because of course
it is reversed in the username compared to the full name
L81[12:16:58] <Althego> added angry
astronaut too
L82[12:18:37] <darsie> :)
L83[12:19:35] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Good
news, guys! They can't bite through the hardsuits!
L84[12:19:36] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Good news, guys! They can't bite through the hardsuits!
L85[12:20:55] <Mat2ch>
*staresatthesoftsuite*
L86[12:25:06] <Mat2ch> Almost to
T-1h!
L87[12:25:17] <Mat2ch> I think they really
could launch today
L88[12:26:43] <Althego> they almost did
last time too
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L90[12:27:27] <Mat2ch> Yeah, but then a
valve froze
L91[12:27:37] <Mat2ch> I guess that is
fixed now and all other valves checked as well
L92[12:29:00] <Izzy> SpaceX really leading
with their best foot forward, opening with an explosion shot
L93[12:31:45] <Mat2ch> well, they have to
clear the launchpad for the next booster. There are several ways to
do that.
L94[12:31:46] <Mat2ch> :D
L95[12:33:26] <Izzy> the comment about 150
tons being 150, 000 1L bottles of water amused me
L96[12:33:41] <Izzy> like, yup, 150t = 150
000 kg, by definition
L97[12:33:43] <Althego> because americans
use short tons
L98[12:33:52] <Althego> this is metric
tonnes
L99[12:34:21] <Althego> for everybody else
it is obvious
L100[12:34:49] <Izzy> is just funny
:3
L101[12:35:19] <umaxtu> the difference is
what? 10 percent?
L102[12:35:32] <darsie> vtuber stream
started
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L106[12:48:52] <Althego> spacex stream s
tarted too
L107[12:52:35] <Mat2ch> Tanks and the
beach are filling ;)
L108[13:04:15] <Neal> I hope it at least
gets far away from the pad before it explodes
L109[13:11:48] <umaxtu> and over the
water, yeah
L110[13:14:42] <Mat2ch> I say there will
be no fireball
L111[13:14:56] <Mat2ch> and the booster
will land in a way that it can be hauled away.
L112[13:15:20] <Mat2ch> or better, it will
stick upright in the ocean and people will have to think hard and
long how to get it away from there :D
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L114[13:34:23] <Neal> u hoh
L115[13:34:32] <Neal> things are
explosing
L116[13:37:32] <Neal> rapid unplanned not
separation
L117[13:39:07] <Mat2ch> Yeah, they flipped
before separation?
L118[13:41:28] <Neal> don't think that was
supposed to happen
L119[13:41:34] <Neal> front failed to fall
off
L120[13:43:44] <goblin> I could do that in
KSP
L121[13:43:54] <Mat2ch> I did that in
KSP!
L122[13:43:56] <Mat2ch> ;)
L123[13:46:05] <Neal> I wonder if it
failed to sep because of excessive sidelsip
L124[13:50:16] <Mat2ch> A mate mentioned
that they might not have an active separation system. They put the
whole thing into a spin and release the clamps...
L125[13:51:34] <Althego> i think becasue
there were too many engines out, it didnt have enough authority to
keep its heading and flipped
L126[13:51:38] <Althego> pretty much
kerbal way
L127[13:51:58] <Althego> what was
concerning when it started to spin it didnt explode
L128[13:52:27] <Mat2ch> yeah, the engines
were out rather unevenly
L129[13:52:39] <Mat2ch> at the end it
looks like it goes sideways
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L132[14:10:53] <goblin> also, normally
when you start spinning there's a momentary lag when the game
calculates which part should explode first, but it was all smooth
here
L133[14:11:03] <Althego> hehe
L134[14:12:33] <goblin> wikipedia reads
"SpaceX then engaged the onboard flight termination system
resulting in a commanded destruction of the vehicle at T+
3:59.", but no source
L135[14:16:11] <Althego> not even elon
said that
L136[14:16:35] <Althego> unless they have
an internal leak it is not public
L137[14:17:47] <UmbralRaptop> yeah, that
feels like plausible speculation
L138[14:17:48] <Mat2ch> jep. It's very
likely it got terminated, but could have broken up on it's own
also
L139[14:18:01] <Mat2ch> *its
L140[14:18:21] <Althego> based on the fact
that it was spinnign for a minute before it exploded, it could have
been aero stress too
L141[14:18:40] <Althego> when it started
to spin out it should have exploded on its own
L142[14:18:50] <Althego> maybe they waited
intentionally to collect data
L143[14:19:06] <Mat2ch> Or that spin is
really the detachment process right now.
L145[14:20:54] <Mat2ch> So you get into a
spin, after the first 360° you release the ship on point, which
should now fly straight, then you wait another 180° and boost
back.
L147[14:21:27] <Althego> collateral
damage
L148[14:21:36] <goblin> Mat2ch, wouldn't
conservation of angular momentum then cause the separated bit to
spin in the other direction?
L149[14:22:23] <Althego> no it would spin
in the same direction
L150[14:22:28] <Althego> at least in ksp
:)
L151[14:22:43] <Mat2ch> goblin: if the
point it's rotating around isn't on the ship it should fly straight
iirc.
L152[14:23:28] <Mat2ch> But I will fire up
KSP now to test that theory ;)
L153[14:26:55] <Mat2ch> I could also just
paint a diagram showing the force vectors, but...
L154[14:33:14] <packbart> so they did
incorporate the classic KSP flip-stabilized flight? it's one of the
lesser known tricks of successful spaceflight
L155[14:39:15] <UmbralRaptop> heh
L156[14:40:05] <Althego> flip stabilized
flight?
L157[14:40:46] <packbart> isn't that what
typical KSP rockets do? flip over once, yet still reach orbit
L158[14:41:09] <Althego> not if i can help
it
L159[14:41:42] <packbart> ah, well. that's
hard mode :)
L160[15:24:47] <Neal> Mat2ch, theres no
way they would plan on doing a full spin at approaching orbital
speeds
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L162[15:28:05] <Tristen> rip SN24 and
B7
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L164[15:42:28] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L165[15:42:28] <LunchBot> You use KSP
rocket data in your final project for your statistics class.
Yargnit tells you everything you're doing wrong.
L166[15:43:14] <Eddi|zuHause> is that i'm
doing it wrong, or they telling me wrong?
L167[15:46:38] <darsie> Telling you what
you do wrong.
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L169[16:05:47] <Eddi|zuHause> that's
difficult to parse
L170[16:06:38] <Althego> seemed ok to
me
L172[16:07:24] <Althego> to this day i
cant understand the horse sentence
L173[16:08:57] <UmbralRaptop> That one
feels like it's missing a word
L174[16:11:06] <Eddi|zuHause> but those
are sentences that make no sense if they're read any other way,
however this one, i read as "<X> tells you <Y>
wrong" which is technically a valid sentence
L175[16:14:16] <FLHerne> pedantically, the
meaning you read should be ... <Y> wrongly
L176[16:15:03] <FLHerne> although I admit
in similar sentences some people would say "...
wrong."
L177[16:33:34] <Mat2ch> Neal: yeah, after
NSF mentioned that they probably lost one of the hydraulics power
units on ascend it's more likely they couldn't steer anymore
L178[16:33:53] <Mat2ch> any the clamps
holding the Ship down might be hydraulic as well, that's why it
wasn't released.
L180[17:09:58] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: the
clamps are GSE-side, no active component on the rocket
L181[17:10:07] <FLHerne> they just clamp
the lip things above the engines
L182[17:11:29] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Some
baffles added to your O'Neill cylinder prevent the unwanted
hurricanes.
L183[17:11:29] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Some baffles added to your O'Neill cylinder prevent the unwanted
hurricanes.
L184[17:17:34] <Mat2ch> FLHerne:
GSE?
L185[17:18:49] <goblin> Althego, "The
horse, which was raced by some other past the barn earlier, now
fell"
L187[17:21:22] <Mat2ch> whoops.
L188[17:22:05] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: oh,
ground support equipment. I meant the clamps that hold the ship to
the rocket, not the rocket to the pad.
L189[17:22:12] <goblin> ... and the space
between "Pig" and "And" and "And" and
"Whistle" is too small
L190[17:22:41] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: oh, I see
what you mean now
L191[17:22:51] <FLHerne> that makes
sense
L193[17:24:52] <Mat2ch> someone made a
comparison
L194[17:27:37] <sandbox> I looked out the
window earlier and I noticed the trail of a plane heading south, I
looked it up and it wasn't what I expected, I'm in Scotland and it
was going from Tokyo to Paris
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L197[18:25:29] <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't
sound that unusual
L198[18:25:48] <Eddi|zuHause> the longer
the trip, the further north the "shortest path"
goes
L199[18:26:14] <Althego> also currently
airplanes cant fly above russia
L200[18:26:47] <Althego> they could do
that or decades after the cold war
L201[18:26:56] <darsie> Russian airplanes
fly over Russia.
L202[18:27:26] <Althego> but nothing
else
L203[18:27:35] <darsie> Including
airplanes stolen by Russia.
L204[18:28:05] <darsie> A Ukrainian drone
flew to Moscow.
L205[18:28:40] <Althego> yes, still no
civilian traffic flying over for a shorter route
L206[18:28:54] <darsie> Why not?
L207[18:30:08] <darsie> Did Russia close
the airspace to them?
L208[18:30:13] <Eddi|zuHause> either
because of sanctions, or because of active war zone, both of which
could have influence on safety
L209[18:30:42] <Mat2ch> darsie: airspace
is closed, yes.
L210[18:30:48] <darsie> By Russia?
L211[18:36:01] <Eddi|zuHause> during the
cold war, there were defined "air corridors" to reach
west berlin, and sometimes there were "civilian" planes
which flew weird zigzag patterns between the edges of these
corridors, trying to make photos and stuff
L212[18:41:00] <Mat2ch> darsie: yes
L213[18:41:14] <darsie> ok
L214[18:42:29] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L215[18:42:29] <LunchBot> You violate the
cosmic censorship principle. You give up.
L216[18:42:50] <Eddi|zuHause> you win some
you lose thome
L217[18:43:01] <Eddi|zuHause> some
L218[18:43:20] <Eddi|zuHause> i wonder why
that is that i sometimes make "phonetic" typos
L219[18:43:23] <Mat2ch> !mission
L220[18:43:24] <LunchBot> You discover
mountain dew in the seas of Eve. You discover physics is a harsh
mistress.
L221[18:43:34] <Mat2ch> I discover a lot
here.
L222[18:44:14] <UmbralRaptop>
concerning
L223[18:44:54] <Eddi|zuHause>
fascinating
L224[18:44:54] <Mat2ch> yeah. I should
divorce physics.
L225[18:45:46] <Althego> i do that too.
because your mother language is phonetic, just like mine
L226[18:48:20] <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't
sound like the right explanation
L227[18:49:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean,
those are words i know how to spell... but sometimes my brain makes
a detour while typing
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L229[18:52:18] <Eddi|zuHause> there's a
difference between "misspellings" (where i don't know any
better) and "typos" (reflexes doing a wrong thing in a
specific moment)
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L233[19:47:36] <UmbralRaptop> !mission add
You launch the largest rocket possible from the smallest and least
improved pad.
L234[19:47:36] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You launch the largest rocket possible from the smallest and least
improved pad.
L235[19:50:35] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add
All that's left is a giant hole in the ground.
L236[19:50:35] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
All that's left is a giant hole in the ground.
L237[19:51:07] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L238[19:51:07] <LunchBot> You attempt to
create a mod to add Lagrange points to the game. You get an
unpleasantly close view of the r-process in action.
L239[19:52:49] <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds
mildly unhealthy
L240[19:53:22] <UmbralRaptop> Don't worry,
this death is multiple orders of magnitude to rapid to be
painful
L241[19:53:28] <UmbralRaptop> *too
rapid
L242[19:54:38] <Eddi|zuHause> the main
question is, to which body did these lagrange points belong?
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L257[23:03:39] <FLHerne> ;outcome add The
size of the paying is inversely proportional to the likelihoods of
surviving for the collecting.
L258[23:03:39] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
The size of the paying is inversely proportional to the likelihoods
of surviving for the collecting.
L259[23:04:47] <Az> !mission
L260[23:04:47] <LunchBot> You find one of
HarvesteR's ancient posts on a forgotten forum. The nuclear weasels
are devoured by the Cosmic Owl, such is the course of nature.
L261[23:13:39] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Lots
of different things appear to go wrong before it blows up, which
means a lot to learn from
L262[23:13:39] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Lots of different things appear to go wrong before it blows up,
which means a lot to learn from
L263[23:14:06] <FLHerne> (from an Ars
comment on the Starship launch)
L264[23:37:37] <FLHerne> ;outcome add You
wake the Captain when the hurricane becomes sapient and grows
missile pods.
L265[23:37:37] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You wake the Captain when the hurricane becomes sapient and grows
missile pods.
L266[23:39:55] <FLHerne> ;outcome add As
long as he doesn't do anything reckless or stupid, Jeb will be just
fine.
L267[23:39:55] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
As long as he doesn't do anything reckless or stupid, Jeb will be
just fine.
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L269[23:51:36] <UmbralRaptop> ...is that
hurricane a reference to anything?
L270[23:54:29] <SporkWitch> now i'm just
thinking of the next sharknado sequel lol