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L21[03:03:54] <raptop> !mission

L22[03:03:54] <LunchBot> You go to Clavius crater. You are caught playing KSP at work for the fourth time and fired on the spot.

L23[03:04:15] <raptop> Playing KSP on the moon would certainly be something

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L26[03:17:59] <XXCoder> yeah though they probably is not obliged to return you to earth

L27[03:21:13] <raptop> as long as "fired" doesn't mean "covered in TEA-TEB" or something

L28[03:22:21] <Izzy> fired as in fired into a return trajectory

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L30[03:27:17] <raptop> whee!

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L32[03:49:57] <XXCoder> ;mission

L33[03:49:57] <LunchBot> Jeb goes on strike, claiming that every time he flies his mind is psychically controlled by giant beings from another universe. You crash so hard that KSP crashes so hard that your gaming device explode. Government will be forever mystified on crater that you was at.

L34[03:50:20] <XXCoder> wow jeb managed to kill his controller

L35[03:51:16] <raptop> I'm amazed that that combination worked

L36[03:51:42] <XXCoder> yep

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L84[17:37:43] <X> So there's an update?

L85[17:38:06] <raptop> There's an update. ~1.9 GiB download

L86[17:38:27] <X> They didn't post patch announcements on steam

L87[17:38:30] <raptop> Lots of bugfixes and performance improvements, see the forum for the longer list of patch notes

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L99[19:55:26] <packbart> hm. updated KSP, launched rover, reverted to launch. Game crashed.

L100[19:55:35] <packbart> I

L101[19:55:50] <packbart> I'll keep watching others play KSP2 for now, I think :)

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L108[21:25:25] <Revelator> Sad that ksp2 isn't part of the spring sale

L109[21:25:48] <Revelator> Perfectly understandable considering it came out weeks? ago though

L110[21:27:02] <raptop> yeah

L111[21:27:03] <darsie> It's winter.

L112[21:27:22] <darsie> Is spring sale in winter?

L113[21:27:58] <raptop> Okay, technically we're almost a week from the equinox

L114[21:28:07] <darsie> Or summer, depending on latitude.

L115[21:28:43] <darsie> It was 8 C today in Vienna.

L116[21:28:52] * raptop checks the weather station on the roof of a nearby building. 57.3 F

L117[21:28:59] <darsie> F

L118[21:29:19] <raptop> like 14 C

L119[21:30:05] <darsie> Is spring sale in winter?

L120[21:30:57] <darsie> Ima ask ChatGPT ...

L121[21:31:24] <raptop> Compare with how sometimes there are christmas sales before halloween?

L122[21:31:38] <darsie> mhm

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L124[21:36:40] <Mat2ch> Mar 16 - Mar 23, 2023: Steam Spring Sale

L125[21:36:50] <darsie> thx

L126[21:36:51] <Mat2ch> Sale, yay

L127[21:37:02] <Mat2ch> What do I not buy this time?

L128[21:37:22] <darsie> Becuase you don't have Windows.

L129[21:40:01] <Mat2ch> Most games run with Proton

L130[21:40:21] <darsie> Yeah, works for some.

L131[21:41:25] <Mat2ch> It's more about the fact that I need to rest and not play another game...

L132[21:41:41] <Mat2ch> doing too much work this year and last year and not getting a proper break

L133[21:41:42] <darsie> spring equinox on March 20th, 2023, at 09:03 UTC

L134[21:47:34] <Mat2ch> and then summertime. I hate summertime.

L135[21:48:14] <darsie> Go to Iceland.

L136[21:48:43] <Mat2ch> My neighbours get up an hour earlier and make noise and everyday I will get torn out of sleep. I will suffer sleep deprevation all summer and will hate it.

L137[21:50:23] <raptop> stabbity

L138[21:51:09] <darsie> Go to Antarctica.

L139[21:51:25] <darsie> It's dark there when it's Summer in the North.

L140[21:52:01] <Mat2ch> It's not about the sun. I have roller shutters to keep it out. It's the noise...

L141[21:52:21] <darsie> Go to space.

L142[21:52:35] <Mat2ch> yeah

L143[21:52:38] <darsie> :)

L144[21:52:50] <Mat2ch> if someone would look for a long haul space trucker, I would apply.

L145[21:53:03] <darsie> Mars?

L146[21:53:26] <Mat2ch> I'm talking long haul. So different stars at the other end of the galaxy. ;)

L147[21:53:35] <darsie> k

L148[21:54:08] <darsie> You could hop on a nearby star and wait for conjunction.

L149[21:54:46] <Mat2ch> There is one important question I have.

L150[21:54:51] <Mat2ch> Do I need a towel?

L151[21:54:57] <darsie> sure

L152[21:56:34] <packbart> The ice truck route to Saturn and back takes a few years

L153[21:56:59] <darsie> It's only 1 local year.

L154[21:58:05] <darsie> Will KSP2 have solar sails? Laser propulsion?

L155[21:59:14] <raptop> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L156[21:59:51] <Mat2ch> Well, I need a warp drive and artificial gravity for my ship..

L157[22:01:53] <packbart> Remember the Cant!

L158[22:06:17] <Mat2ch> Cant?

L159[22:08:51] <packbart> "The Canterbury ("Cant") was a former colony ship which was converted to function as an ice hauler traveling among the Belt and Outer Planets in service of the Pur'n'Kleen Water Company."

L160[22:09:08] <packbart> ( https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Canterbury_(TV) )

L161[22:14:54] <Mat2ch> Ah, I remember that.

L162[22:15:24] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIMaf8X0FlM

L163[22:15:31] <darsie> Rocket Lab - 'Stronger Together' Launch

L164[22:15:33] <Mat2ch> Had a sad ending that ship.

L165[22:15:47] <sandbox> I "don't" remember

L166[22:16:28] <Mat2ch> If you haven't watched The Expanse yet, you should get used to getting spoilered ;)

L167[22:16:57] <packbart> The (audio)books are quite good, too, I think

L168[22:18:40] <Mat2ch> I hope they make the three last books into a show, too.

L169[22:18:43] <Mat2ch> I just love space.

L170[22:19:00] <Mat2ch> I miss those days where TNG was running daily

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L172[22:20:34] <packbart> the later space fights might be a bit big and boring for a TV series

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L174[22:21:09] <darsie> switch to 1080p manual and kill the buffer with 2x speed.

L175[22:21:15] <packbart> a torpedo is going to hit your ship in a few days and there's no maneuever to avoid the rendezvous

L176[22:23:07] <sandbox> I remember when my tv used to pick up the neighbour's satellite as they had one of those transmitter things

L177[22:23:19] <sandbox> I used to watch some TNG on it

L178[22:24:26] <sandbox> that and The Simpsons

L179[22:24:49] <sandbox> late 90s so it was when it was still good

L180[22:25:07] <Mat2ch> I still wonder about the mechanics of getting out of warp and into orbit

L181[22:28:51] <packbart> just press "J"

L182[22:30:09] <Mat2ch> hrhr

L183[22:30:16] <Mat2ch> gnight everyone

L184[22:30:33] <packbart> (ED's frame shift drive is equally weird - it shifts spacetime around the ship and yet you still see everything, even the planet behind you moving away faster than light)

L185[22:31:27] <raptop> It's amazing what you can do with the power of friendship

L186[22:32:03] <packbart> well, in the Elite galaxy lightspeed is just a unit of measure and more a general suggestion than some hard limit

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L188[22:34:34] <darsie> t-5

L189[22:49:27] <Azander> in KSP2 VAB, how do you move up/down your vehicle ?

L190[22:49:37] <Azander> move the camera up/down

L191[22:49:57] <SporkWitch> middle mouse and drag; in vertical mode it goes up and down, and in plane mode it moves side to side

L192[22:50:05] <packbart> or middle-click on a part

L193[22:50:42] <darsie> mouse wheel or page up/down keys.

L194[22:50:50] <Azander> :(

L195[22:51:01] <Azander> Nasty UI interface option :(

L196[22:51:06] <Azander> Thanks!

L197[22:51:15] <sandbox> I hope nobody tells you the quit key

L198[22:51:20] <darsie> middle mouse button drag zooms, IIRC.

L199[22:52:16] <packbart> I haven't spent much time in the KSP 2 VAB, yet, tbh. But I watched others use it :)

L200[22:53:45] <darsie> You can grab the rocket by the root part and drag it anywhere, or grab it anywhere with left shift.

L201[23:15:38] <packbart> and now the stream ended

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L203[23:31:59] <darsie> which?

L204[23:32:22] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIMaf8X0FlM is still running at t+52

L205[23:33:45] <packbart> it stopped here at some time and always at the same time. it works now

L206[23:59:56] <packbart> looks like Jake's getting even worse performance on Linux/Proton with the new patch. I still hope we'll see an official Linux version someday