L13[03:12:18] <Guest65512> Will the Breaking Ground Expansion packl work with 1.12?

L15[03:25:38] <Izzy> yup

L35[04:59:39] <RoboFreak> docking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lCOXZQ4ucs

L39[06:22:42] <Althego> there seem to be some minor issue and they are patching the docking code to progress

L41[06:41:32] <Althego> hehe no video of the capture lol

L46[08:03:35] <NervousGuest36675> o/

L47[08:38:36] <X> Is there an ETA on the first patch?

L48[08:38:42] <X> or next patch?

L49[08:45:52] <NervousGuest36675> "in the coming weeks"

L50[08:46:10] <NervousGuest36675> multiple teams are working on it

L75[13:04:31] <Guest52252> is https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com broken ?

L76[13:06:44] <Althego> hehe looks ugly, probably missing formatting

L77[13:07:46] <sandbox> yep

L79[13:16:27] <Mat2ch> https://kerbal-forum-uploads.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/css_built_17/341e4a57816af3ba440d891ca87450ff_framework.css.gz?v=94e5df57651677822349

L80[13:16:35] <Mat2ch> <Error><Code>AccessDenied</Code><Message>Access Denied</Message>

L81[13:16:42] <Mat2ch> someone didn't pay the bills or so ;)

L82[13:24:36] <packbart> ah, I was wondering why the forum looked broken but didn't check

L83[13:57:38] <Mat2ch> Someone noticed and it's back up

L84[14:04:32] <packbart> I don't like mods called BetterSomething because they usually aren't

L85[14:18:11] <packbart> ah, there's the "open letter" lgg was talking about

L86[14:18:19] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/214100-an-open-letter-from-the-ksp1-mod-developer-community-to-the-ksp2-player-base-and-development-team/ )

L98[18:29:04] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAkApUbevaA Starlink

L100[18:38:03] <darsie> got it

L101[18:39:52] <darsie> That wobble is very Kerbal :).

L102[18:40:23] <Althego> yes i had the same thought too

L103[18:40:41] <Althego> in reality it was rolling shutter

L104[18:49:07] <Althego> very nice landing

L105[18:51:36] <Mat2ch> I only watch it for the landings. :D

L106[18:51:40] <Mat2ch> They are still impressive

L107[19:01:33] <Althego> i almost missed it. had i failed to kill the boss in dead space on the first try, i wouldnt have finished the game before the launch. and i completely forget about it, only saw your message about it when i quit

L116[19:57:45] <FLHerne> packbart: I'm stunned by how many different modders have signed that

L117[19:57:57] <FLHerne> usually getting people to do things like that is like herding cats

L118[19:58:26] <FLHerne> perhaps this exposes that the entire KSP modding scene is two people and some mice in a lab coat, using a lot of aliases

L119[20:09:22] <SporkWitch> honestly, the LETTER feels too early. The devs have been clera that they'll be actively supporting modding, just not immediately. They need to limit it at first to focus testing and get good bug reports; if you're modding the stuff they're testing, it means your results are useless in fixing the issues.

L120[20:09:40] <packbart> well, linuxgurugamer accounts for about 90% of the mods mentioned in the list? :)

L121[20:11:25] <packbart> SporkWitch: the marketing blurb about "modding on day one" made some angry, I guess, when there was no support or documentation of any sort

L122[20:12:13] <SporkWitch> i believe that was BEFORE they were made to do early access; everything points to the original plan being a straight-to-1.0 release

L123[20:13:37] <packbart> yeah, in countdown terms we're still in the negative numbers. we're in the wet dress rehearsal now

L124[20:13:55] <packbart> so it's arguably not "day one", yet :)

L125[20:23:22] <packbart> I need a mod to calculate the decoupler dV. maybe I can get KER to do it

L126[20:24:12] <umaxtu> I'm not super upset about all of the promised features being available at the start of early access or even the lack of official modding support as long as they aren't blocking it

L127[20:24:29] <Althego> it is early access

L128[20:24:40] <Althego> did they want to mod it on day one?

L129[20:24:48] <Althego> let them cook :)

L130[20:25:40] <packbart> one could also argue that they made the early access version so expensive that only hard fanbois would buy and it not the general public

L131[20:26:27] <Althego> i think i have to wait until april or possibly may until i can build my next computer

L132[20:26:30] <packbart> and I didn't even get exclusive textures for my parts!1

L133[20:26:35] <Althego> and then it would make sense to buy ksp2

L134[20:27:17] <SporkWitch> that's potentially part of it: more serious people more likely to submit good bug reports. I think it also is about how far along everything else is; i don't think they're planning on a really long early access period, and so the thinking is lower risk and shorter EA period means higher starting price.

L135[20:27:20] <packbart> (ony ea orders get the "retro" part variants or somesuch ;)

L137[21:23:43] <packbart> "The game had a real bad time when I tried putting the KSC on gilly" :> The flat runway probably sticks too far out

L138[21:23:55] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/212032-habitable-gilly-112x/ )

L139[21:51:29] <darsie> I'm going to cheat a little to find a class I comet. save frequently and analyse save files automatically.

L144[22:58:42] <raptop> !mission add You attempt to invent plasmabraking maneuvers.

L145[22:58:43] <LunchBot> Added mission: You attempt to invent plasmabraking maneuvers.

L147[23:00:48] <raptop> !mission

L148[23:00:48] <LunchBot> Having started a moderately successful space company, you decide manufacturing electric cars is the obvious next step. Gauss and Jordan eliminate you.

L149[23:01:34] <raptop> (the cars are now in reduced row-echelon formation)

L153[23:13:28] <Azander> !mission

L154[23:13:28] <LunchBot> You install an Adobe product on your computer. kmath stares at you.

L155[23:13:43] <Azander> No adobe here

L156[23:13:48] <Azander> hate those people

L157[23:13:50] <SporkWitch> damn, nice pairing lol

L160[23:20:53] <NGC3982> !mission

L161[23:20:55] <LunchBot> You drop two probes, but one slams into the other on the second orbit. KwirkyJ removes the entry about KwirkyJ removing the meta entries. Meta-ception.

L162[23:29:12] <raptop> People who haven't been seen here in years =\