L2[00:12:01] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale tastes suspiciously metallic.

L3[00:12:01] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale tastes suspiciously metallic.

L4[00:12:22] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale tastes suspiciously metallic.

L5[00:12:23] <LunchBot> "Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale tastes suspiciously metallic." is already a known outcome!

L7[01:32:53] <X> Are these supposed to be space suits?

L8[01:33:18] <X> Because I don't think they'd last very long in space with their midriff showing like that.

L9[01:34:00] <X> Maybe they're parkas.

L10[01:34:56] <X> I guess you could last longer in a cold environment with some skin showing.

L11[01:37:53] <X> How would you like to be one of the people just dancing the entire time on the platforms in the air as they're going up and down?

L13[01:41:16] <packbart> depends on the pay, I guess

L14[01:55:21] <X> They probably make like 100-150 dollars an hour.

L15[01:55:30] <X> But probably only get a few hours of work.

L16[01:58:20] <X> paid dancers received $712 for show day and $45 per hour for their rehearsal time, as well as a $30 per diem

L17[01:58:30] <X> But apparently a bunch of dancers are volunteer dancers too

L41[09:22:20] <Althego> lol matt lowne lost to tim dodd in dance dance revolution

L42[09:33:23] <darsie> .

L46[12:29:48] <Althego> ;mission add You are tasked with finding a radioactive capsule in the desert.

L47[12:29:48] <LunchBot> Added mission: You are tasked with finding a radioactive capsule in the desert.

L48[12:32:46] <darsie> http://0x0.st/oITg.JPG

L49[12:33:55] <Althego> is that all radioactive?

L50[12:33:55] <darsie> The tritium light is a radioactive capsule.

L51[12:33:58] <darsie> yes

L52[12:34:26] <Althego> i can recognize the uranium galss

L53[12:34:51] <Althego> and the clocks and watches probably have glowing paint

L54[12:35:09] <darsie> The phosphors have been destroyed by radiation.

L55[12:35:13] <darsie> or something

L56[12:35:52] <Althego> the capsule thing happened in australia not long ago

L57[12:36:10] <darsie> TIL

L58[12:36:34] <darsie> Did it fall out of the sky?

L59[12:36:46] <Althego> no, literally fell down from a truck

L60[12:37:00] <Althego> and being a few mm in size they had to look for it really hard to find it

L61[12:37:31] <darsie> Radiation quickly drops with distance.

L62[12:38:03] <Althego> doesnt help when humans find something intersting and take it home

L63[12:39:32] <darsie> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff7kYW3VIAAZ4Vp?format=jpg&name=large

L64[12:39:40] <Althego> ah yes

L65[12:39:45] <Althego> i love this

L66[12:39:49] <darsie> :)

L67[12:39:50] <Althego> the stop and run away

L68[12:39:55] <Althego> er drop and run away

L69[12:40:12] <Althego> because what is inside normally is so deadly you get a deadly dose in a matter of seconds

L70[12:40:33] <darsie> Has decayed a lot since then.

L71[12:42:08] <darsie> I think satellites or so with RTG have deorbited.

L73[12:43:33] <Mat2ch> But usually deorbit into the pacific where nobody is

L74[12:43:50] <Mat2ch> the RTG should be restistant enough to not break up in the atmosphere

L76[14:15:14] <SporkWitch> water is also an extremely effective insulator against radiation. Why we use it in reactors (not just for cooling), as well as Robinson's idea of circling one of the hab modules with the water tanks, as a "storm shelter" in case of a solar flare on the way to Mars.

L77[14:15:58] <SporkWitch> https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

L78[14:22:50] <darsie> green radiation passes fairly well through water.

L79[14:22:58] <darsie> ;)

L80[14:23:34] <SporkWitch> yes, well, we're not really worried about non-ionizing radiation, are we? :P

L82[14:25:07] <darsie> Actually, I shone a 100 mW green laser beam into my eye many times.

L83[14:25:27] <darsie> ... while it was reflected around with a rotating mirror.

L84[14:25:50] <SporkWitch> you didn't need your eyesight when you get older, anyway, heh

L85[14:29:49] <Mat2ch> safety third.

L86[14:30:05] <darsie> I did a thought experiment first.

L87[14:31:35] <darsie> If my eye covers 1/100 of the circle with a radius of darsie-mirror, then on average I'd absorb only 1/100 the power - 1 mW, which should be safe. So I had to test it.

L88[14:33:12] <darsie> Also shining a fs pulse of a MW laser should be safe (I havent mathed this, yet.).

L89[14:33:25] <darsie> ... in your eye

L90[14:34:13] <darsie> OTOH there's pulse laser ablation ...

L91[14:34:58] <darsie> Usually, laser ablation refers to removing material with a pulsed laser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_ablation

L92[14:36:08] <SporkWitch> ablation is actually the lore reason in BattleTech for the invention of pulse lasers. Where a traditional laser fires a continuous beam until the capaciter is drained, the vaporised material acts to block some of that incoming beam, reducing its overall effectiveness. Enter pulse lasers: rather than a continuous stream, it pulses rapidly, to allow some of the vaporised material to disperse,

L93[14:36:18] <SporkWitch> allowing more of the weapon's energy to impact the target directly

L94[14:37:55] <SporkWitch> (incredible amount of detail and lore in BattleTech, that most people don't notice, though that's probably due in large part to how long Microsoft had the rights to it and butchered it, like they do everything they touch)

L98[17:03:45] <packbart> https://turmbau.uni-mundsburg.de/ for tidal force enthusiasts ;) (the final camera setup probably won't show much of the river to capture the 250m tall tower being built near my office)

L104[17:39:02] <sandbox> Scott Manley "I remember Napster..... I worked there."

L105[18:09:32] <Kalpa> Interesting, why are people remembering Napster

L106[18:10:39] <sandbox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPhJbKBuNnA

L107[18:11:34] <Mat2ch> I remember Napster. For reasons...

L108[18:11:34] <Kalpa> Yes, I watched Tom Scott's newest as well.

L109[18:12:25] <Kalpa> Oh, Manley has used the YT comments section, I see.

L110[18:12:48] <Mat2ch> Tom... I wanted to watch a short video. Not 15 minutes! (I will do later ;)

L111[18:34:50] <Kalpa> So, do you people remember how only a decade ago people still used IRC?

L112[18:35:00] <Althego> hehe

L113[18:38:00] <Mat2ch> IRC will be only then really dead when the last bridge gets switched off. ;)

L114[18:40:09] <raptop> We aren't people?

L115[18:40:35] <SporkWitch> you're a raptop

L116[18:40:54] <Kalpa> I remember I once was pals with raptop over on G+

L117[18:41:01] <Kalpa> I'm still unsure how that came to be.

L118[18:41:10] <raptop> hmm

L121[18:48:20] <Althego> hehe

L122[19:28:44] <FLHerne> Kalpa: remember when only now people still use IRC?

L123[19:49:12] <Kalpa> The slow death of IRC.

L124[19:49:51] <SporkWitch> that's more due to mismanagement by the server admins and major channel mods, than a lack of people. Look at what happened to freenode. It wasn't for lack of people using it, it was the terrible changes in management style.

L125[19:51:34] <sandbox> F

L126[19:52:39] <Kalpa> Freenode was the last huzzah of IRC really

L127[19:53:05] <Kalpa> The masses moved to alternative platforms increasingly since late '00s (once arguably better, more modern solutions became available)

L128[19:53:35] <SporkWitch> i was on there for decades, Eternal September was bad, but the last 10 years or so were REALLY bad, as they caved to the cancer, and even started encouraging people with google questions to NOT try to help themselves or contribute anything to the process

L129[19:53:35] <Kalpa> Discord has wholly taken over the role what quakenet had back in say mid-'00s

L130[19:54:20] <SporkWitch> unfortunately; discord's terrible, too. it's not even a good voice chat solution, but it's completely replaced the superior mumble, and even teamspeak is still better

L131[19:54:38] <SporkWitch> (Mumble > TS2 > TS3 > Discord > Roger Wilco > Ventrilo)

L132[19:54:42] <Kalpa> A friend used to run a dedicated ventrilo server

L133[19:55:03] <Kalpa> He eventually shut it down and we kinda migrated to a discord of our own

L134[19:55:59] <SporkWitch> it's basically forced at this point. The convenience of making an account one time and not needing to make new ones to join other servers is very hard to surmount. You need interoperable systems like XMPP to come close, and those are harder than a centralized platform

L135[20:00:07] <FLHerne> People have been doom-mongering about the death of IRC for the entire time I've used it

L136[20:00:14] <FLHerne> probably before that

L137[20:01:04] <SporkWitch> oh i don't see it going anywhere, just that it'll be the hardcore like us that really hate the new stuff lol

L138[20:02:43] <packbart> non-binary Usenet is still alive with one or two handful of users worldwide ;)

L139[20:04:51] <packbart> anyone need a peer?

L140[20:42:10] <SporkWitch> never got into usenet myself. I have run XMPP servers before. Back when I was really active in EVE Online and running a 700 member alliance, I combined SimpleMachines forums, the EVE API, Mumble, and XMPP, to all use the account created on the forums, and use the API to automate granting and rescinding roles and access based on your roles in-game in the organisation

L143[21:00:45] <packbart> I wouldn't recommend getting into it nowadays, anyway. There's only weirdos and spam left ;)

L144[21:01:11] <packbart> I got into BBS networks and Usenet before I had a "live" internet connection and it fell off pretty fast afterwards

L145[21:01:33] <packbart> I used to get my news by bike, riding to my sysop to swap disks

L146[21:02:01] <packbart> (ah, bikes! luxury! we didn't 'ave bikes, no siree!)