L13[05:05:39] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkZx-SbwLac

L14[05:05:59] <Althego> Scott Manley - New PC Building!!!

L21[06:49:46] <Funkenstein> ;mission

L22[06:49:46] <LunchBot> Your otters are lydian augmented. There has to be blood. There always has to be blood. What is the point if there is no blood?

L23[07:00:49] <raptop> khornite otters

L24[07:01:31] <SporkWitch> blood for the blood god; skulls for the skull throne!

L25[07:01:52] <raptop> also a lot of squeeks and chirps for some reason

L26[07:02:38] <SporkWitch> rats and mice are pernicious and adaptable

L30[08:31:30] <Althego> zombanwa

L35[10:39:24] <Mat2ch> Althego: As a youtuber this is a business expense... :D

L36[10:40:08] <Mat2ch> But building a new computer without knowing what KSP2 needs is bold

L38[10:40:52] <packbart> just put in two of everything

L39[10:41:07] <Mat2ch> SLI is dead sadly.

L61[17:05:38] <SporkWitch> Mat2ch: i think a big reason for that is that thanks to the rise of consoles as the primary development focus for most games, there's just nothing really pushing PC hardware. The only thing since Crysis to even try is Star Citizen, and even that is at least partly an optimization issue, not simply pushing things. As a result, no point to SLI, so why put in the work to keep supporting it?

L64[18:04:17] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: with SLI I think the userbase was just too small to justify the costs

L65[18:04:56] <SporkWitch> the userbase was small for three reasons: 1) expensive, 2) almost no games supported it, 3) even fewer games needed / benefited from it

L66[18:05:10] <Althego> just like raytracing now :)

L67[18:05:37] <SporkWitch> the games that do support it look freaking gorgeous, though

L68[18:06:01] <SporkWitch> Althego: ^

L69[18:06:09] <Althego> opinions vary on that

L70[18:06:27] <Althego> also heavily decreases framerate

L71[18:06:48] <SporkWitch> definitely a performance trade-off, though everything i have that supports it still runs 45+

L72[18:08:17] <packbart> I bought Shadow of the Tomb Raider to test the RTX-stuff on my 2080S and it is impressive. But it makes the GPU whine and squeal horribly :)

L73[18:08:20] <SporkWitch> now if only elden ring were playable >_< regardless of settings, it has crippling frame stutter

L74[18:22:43] <umaxtu> SporkWitch: valve did some sorcery to get Elden Ring running smoothly on the steamdeck

L75[18:23:06] <SporkWitch> don't have a steam desk though :( lol

L76[18:29:42] <umaxtu> VRR supposedly helps. I didn't really notice that many issues in the hour i've played

L77[18:30:24] <SporkWitch> i spent about 30 minutes or so fighting with it, before i gave up and refunded, which is usually my rule, so i still have a few more tries to wait and see if it's better in a few months.

L78[18:30:33] <umaxtu> doubtful

L79[18:31:07] <SporkWitch> it's a well-known and widespread issue, from the search results, so there's reason to think they're working on it

L80[18:31:29] <SporkWitch> I may just get it on PS4, though. Apparently PS4 version running on PS5 has the best overall graphics and performance currently

L81[18:31:42] <umaxtu> they don't have a great track record for fixing frame pacing issues.

L84[18:47:16] <darsie> Sometimes KSP runs at 10- fps.

L85[18:48:18] <Mat2ch> At negative FPS!

L86[18:49:01] <darsie> ;outcome add Your speed becomes negative.

L87[18:49:02] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your speed becomes negative.

L88[18:50:45] <darsie> vv/2a=distance you have to start decelerating to stop at your rendezvous.

L89[18:52:15] <Mat2ch> !mission

L90[18:52:16] <LunchBot> Icefire gets fed up with silly missions and outcomes. You miss your scheduled burn.

L91[18:52:25] <Mat2ch> Icefire is no more.

L94[18:53:37] <darsie> Will KSP2 have an option to switch between s and ydms?

L95[18:53:54] <darsie> Is there such a mod for KSP?

L96[18:54:25] <SporkWitch> i'm not sure what you mean be these initialisms

L97[18:55:17] <darsie> seconds, years, days, minutes, seconds.

L98[18:55:32] <darsie> Kerbal Space Program

L99[18:56:18] <SporkWitch> ah, i'm not aware of any such mod. I would assume KSP2 will just be using standard YYYYMMDD-HH:MM:SS (ISO format)

L100[18:56:38] <darsie> months?

L101[18:56:39] <SporkWitch> it's the most logical format, since it's sequential from largest to smallest, and it can continue indefinitely when greater precision is needed

L102[18:57:24] <SporkWitch> years months days - hours minutes seconds, and then decimal for as much precision as needed

L103[18:57:39] <darsie> How many months in a year?

L104[18:58:00] <SporkWitch> not sure; might be on the wiki. i only know a day is 6 hours on kerbin

L105[18:58:46] <SporkWitch> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Time

L106[19:00:01] <darsie> 65.22 Muns/year

L107[19:00:13] <SporkWitch> 66.23 months in a kerbin year, 426.08 kerbin days in a year

L108[19:01:29] <darsie> doing math with ymdhms sucks.

L109[19:02:36] <darsie> Has anyone even tried doing that without converting to s or so?

L110[19:03:17] <SporkWitch> interestingly, a kerbin month is only about 6 days long

L111[19:03:31] <SporkWitch> (though i guess that would be "munth")

L112[19:04:28] <darsie> A munth should be Kerbin sideral period/Mun synodic period, I think.

L114[19:05:50] <SporkWitch> 426.08 days divided by 66.23 months gives 6.433338 (and a bunch further) days

L115[19:06:09] <SporkWitch> just going by the maths on the wiki, and assuming it's basing the months on the mun

L116[19:06:40] <darsie> I got 65.22 Muns/year, the wiki says 66.23

L117[19:07:27] <darsie> Obviously a munth is from full Mun to full Mun.

L118[19:07:47] <darsie> And since orbits are circular there's no variation.

L119[19:08:46] <SporkWitch> i assume it's assuming a month as a full orbital period of the mun, rather than trying to calculate lunar cycles

L120[19:12:14] <darsie> Are Kerbal days sideral or synodic?

L121[19:12:28] <SporkWitch> not sure

L122[19:12:43] <darsie> On Earth they are synodic.

L123[19:13:05] <darsie> We keep noon at 12 pm, kinda.

L124[19:13:49] <SporkWitch> per the wiki i linked above, noon is always 0:00:00

L125[19:14:02] <darsie> Where?

L126[19:14:15] <SporkWitch> i linked it above, right before you sent 65.22Muns/year

L127[19:14:20] <darsie> At the KSC?

L128[19:15:47] <darsie> This is because humans usally refer at a 24 hours long solar day, while Kerbals usually refer to a 6 hours long stellar day.

L129[19:16:53] <darsie> Noon on Kerbin always occurs on hour 0 minute 0 and second 0 where the day and year are variable. (Year ?, Day ?, 0:00:00)

L130[19:16:55] <darsie> what?

L131[19:17:34] <SporkWitch> given the grammar on much of it, i think the author just added the mention of day and year to feel like he sounded more intelligent lol

L132[19:18:29] <darsie> Did you just guess her gender?

L133[19:19:40] <darsie> s/guess/assume

L134[19:22:03] <SporkWitch> it is standard convention in english to use masculine when the sex of the individual is unknown. This stems back to when we dropped the more explicit masculine signifiers, e.g. wereman and wyfman became just man and woman, with man being both masculine and neuter

L135[19:22:42] <SporkWitch> This is also why in writings where you see reference to "man" as a plural it refers to mankind, meaning humans, not just male humans

L136[19:30:31] <Deddly> In Swedish, it the other way around in some contexts. Just because someone uses "he" or "she" doesn't automatically mean someone is assuming gender.

L140[20:05:57] <Althego> kikkerikii

L141[20:06:01] <Althego> but i want to sleep

L142[20:06:44] <darsie> sleep

L143[20:06:52] <darsie> Your eyelids are heavy.

L144[20:06:57] <darsie> You feel warm.

L145[20:07:43] <Althego> yes, as soon as i get into the bed. which is 1 step away

L147[20:21:47] <Mat2ch> Technically it's not politics. There is a livestream about that balloon :D

L148[20:28:12] <packbart> what's Scott Manley's opinion?

L149[20:28:52] <Mat2ch> Not Deep Space enough for him.

L150[20:29:09] <darsie> Didn't land on Mars.

L151[20:30:04] <darsie> We could ISRU fill a balloon with H2 on Mars.

L152[20:30:14] <darsie> Over and over again.

L153[20:31:00] <darsie> If we always land on a spot with water.

L154[20:31:09] <darsie> Or extract it from air.

L160[21:45:38] <raptop> !mission

L161[21:45:38] <LunchBot> You invent a rocket powered by lightning. You misstep, causing the building you're in to collapse.

L163[21:55:28] <darsie> scott

L164[22:18:52] <Mat2ch> !mission

L165[22:18:52] <LunchBot> Instead of tea, you brew TEA-TEB. Bananas are now wildly out of scale.

L166[22:22:24] <FLHerne> I don't

L167[22:22:30] <FLHerne> see how that follows

L168[22:27:26] <Izaya> start using rhinos for scale instead https://social.shadowkat.net/media/38bcdfb86338dc570616e84c8fbaa98616e63e2871fada9c7f33c5f23cd7ea8b.jpg

L169[22:42:18] <Mat2ch> We could also use apples

L170[22:48:14] <darsie> http://0x0.st/oCfr.JPG

L171[22:49:30] <darsie> Now, do you deduce the size of the apple or the cube from the other?

L172[22:51:27] <darsie> I did not click the steam launcher today.

L173[22:56:41] <Mat2ch> We just don't and eat the apple.

L175[23:13:47] <darsie> found one

L176[23:14:12] <darsie> Wow, it's even prograde.

L177[23:14:15] <darsie> Class I comet.

L178[23:17:50] <raptop> ~~how many bananas is that?~~

L179[23:18:09] <Mat2ch> wait what. The balloon was the first confirmed aerial kill of a F-22? lol :D

L180[23:18:09] <darsie> 0

L182[23:22:05] <darsie> http://0x0.st/oCfH.png prograde class I comet

L185[23:41:09] <Rokker> Mat2ch: 1-0 k/d