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L7[02:22:31] <packbart> linuxgurugamer doing
a 40 minute burn on stream ;)
L8[02:24:02] <raptop> hah
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L11[02:25:23] <darsie> Xenon?
L12[02:26:06] <packbart> Sending a probe to
JNSQ-Edna on Nukes
L13[02:40:01] <raptop> JNSQ-Edna sounds
like an off-brand Sedna
L15[02:57:01] <packbart> I was more
reminded of Maniac Mansion's Edna
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L18[03:54:21] <packbart> "Rapid
Unplanned Retirement" - well, that's one way to say "Dead
Kerbal"
L19[03:55:11] <raptop> Rapid Unplaned
Demise -- keeping the acronym the same
L21[03:55:49] <raptop> twitch: a weird
place where raids are in fact good things
L22[03:56:29] <packbart> indeed
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L26[04:33:50] <XXCoder> ;mission
L27[04:33:50] <LunchBot> Increased
frequency of Vermiscious Knid attacks force you to abandon your
ship. Long after moving on to another project, you hear the
explosion.
L28[04:34:03] <XXCoder> well of course it
exploded
L29[04:34:08] <XXCoder> it was under
attack!
L30[04:35:37] <raptop> >.>
L31[04:41:49] <XXCoder> it sure took them a
long while which allowed me to return and make few projects
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L39[06:05:29] <NeckoGecko> o_O
L40[06:06:29] *
raptop hands NeckoGecko an RT-10 SRB
L41[06:07:43] <NeckoGecko> @raptop:
Greetings, comrad! :)
L42[06:08:58] <NeckoGecko> What should I do
with that solid booster? I fear no man, but that thing... it scares
me
L43[06:09:04] <Althego> lol
L44[06:09:22] <raptop> Anyway, given that
the channel skews towards the US and it's 2209-0109 here, it might
be a bit quiet
L45[06:09:42] <raptop> Well, you can pretty
easily get a small payload into the upper atmosphere with it!
L46[06:10:41] <NeckoGecko> Nah, I'm not
from US, and not even from "main" europe, so I'm here for
6+ hours, just as almost everyday :)
L47[06:11:46] <NeckoGecko> I also were on
this channel a years ago, when SalVager was still active here
:D
L48[06:12:24] <NeckoGecko> And I still see
familiar nicknames here. Glad that some things are never change
=)
L49[06:13:37] <raptop> there is that
L50[06:15:31] <NeckoGecko> Not sure that I
type anything correct, English is not my native, sorry. But I'm
trying :D
L51[06:21:13] <JVFoxy> <-Canadian..
c.c
L52[06:23:20] <NeckoGecko> Free hugs for
fluffy @JVFoxy x)
L53[06:23:29] <JVFoxy> uh hellos
L54[06:24:49] <raptop> hugs are good
L55[06:24:56] <raptop> ...though I should
probably sleep x_x
L56[06:26:32] <NeckoGecko> Why not?
Sleeping is alway good. Trust me, I have a reasons to know :D
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L67[09:49:55] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Your
program seems to be working fine, and then it tries to display a
string that should say “Hello world,” but instead it prints
“#a[5]:3!” or another syntactically correct Perl script.
L68[09:49:55] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Your program seems to be working fine, and then it tries to display
a string that should say “Hello world,” but instead it prints
“#a[5]:3!” or another syntactically correct Perl script.
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L82[11:56:47] <dnsmcbr> Deddly: FLHerne is
talking about you behind your back - i advise you spank him
L83[11:57:04] <dnsmcbr> Deddly: also -
nukular war?
L84[12:03:33] <Althego> kikkerikii with a
dog
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L86[12:03:44] <Althego> good, i dont get
the point
L87[12:03:50] <Izaya> ;outcome add You
mistype the "Hello world!" example program into the
flight sequencer and get an output of "Hellorld!"
instead.
L88[12:03:50] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You
mistype the "Hello world!" example program into the
flight sequencer and get an output of "Hellorld!"
instead.
L89[12:07:54] *
Deddly spanks FLHerne
L90[12:09:01] <Deddly> dnsmcbr, nuclear war
is great fun at parties
L91[12:37:00] <darsie> 1337
L92[12:37:55] <Althego> that dnsmcbr looks
like some asm mnemonic
L93[12:38:16] <dnsmcbr> Althego: I
disemvowelled dansemacabre
L94[12:39:07] <dnsmcbr> Question there is:
What would instructing a processor to danse macabre do?
L95[12:39:51] <Althego> illegal instruction
probably makes it halt
L96[12:39:56] <Althego> or reboot
L97[12:42:32] <Mat2ch> !mission
L98[12:42:32] <LunchBot> You spend ages
describing to a computer what common sense is. Wernher von Kerman
ejects you from R&D on the nose of an SRB.
L99[12:42:48] <Althego> fitting
L100[12:42:56] <Althego> common sense is
stupid
L101[12:43:09] <Althego> no scientist
would go with that
L102[12:43:33] <Mat2ch> !outcome add A
penguin enters your office and installs Linux on all your rocket
control computers.
L103[12:43:34] <LunchBot> Added outcome: A
penguin enters your office and installs Linux on all your rocket
control computers.
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L107[13:03:22] <Deddly> !nextlunch
L108[13:03:22] <LunchBot> Carbonara.
L109[13:03:28] <Deddly> yum
L110[13:04:16] <Althego> there was one
chinese launch and one spacex launched moved a day
L111[13:04:54] <Althego> but we still have
a possible rs1 from abl space and a virgin orbit launch from the
uk
L112[13:05:36] <Althego> because of this
tomorrow (in some timezones) two spacex launches within an
hour
L113[13:05:40] <Althego> different coasts
though
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L116[13:18:59] <Althego> hehe booster
chasers
L117[13:19:09] <Althego> new discovery
cahnnel documentary :)
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L119[14:39:03] <dnsmcbr> Althego: I vote a
memory thrashing routine designed to degrade the cache + ram
asap
L120[14:39:39] <Althego> those dont
degrade by usage
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L124[14:56:24] <ThatOneGuy> Top of the
rocket to ya!
L125[14:56:32] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L126[14:56:32] <LunchBot> You try to build
a spinning ring ship after seeing Interstellar. Epsicles
abound.
L127[14:57:06] <Althego> what is an
epsicle
L128[14:57:16] <ThatOneGuy> about to look
it up
L129[14:57:24] <Althego> epicycle?
L130[14:57:51] <ThatOneGuy> the original
name for a popsicle, apperentley
L131[14:58:23] <ThatOneGuy> so,
kerbsicle?
L132[14:58:53] <Althego> are you
classified as kerbal? negative, i am a kerbsicle
L133[15:06:37] <ThatOneGuy> lol
L134[15:06:58] <ThatOneGuy> Affirmative,
kerbsicle inbound.
L135[15:07:21] <ThatOneGuy> *WHAM* (runs
into solar panels)
L136[15:10:32] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L137[15:10:33] <LunchBot>
Blueberries.
L138[15:11:02] <packbart> !nela
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L141[15:15:50] <ThatOneGuy> Hey, a new
bot!
L142[15:16:09] <ThatOneGuy> Also, will the
launch be on cable?
L143[15:16:40] <darsie> Which cable?
L144[15:17:00] <darsie> I use cat5
cables.
L145[15:17:17] <ThatOneGuy> oh, hey
Darsie
L146[15:17:24] <darsie> .
L147[15:17:46] <ThatOneGuy> I meant, like,
television
L148[15:17:58] <darsie> ok
L149[15:18:09] <ThatOneGuy> my internet at
home is uassuly about 2.5 mbps
L150[15:18:23] <darsie> Can you transmit
TV with radio?
L151[15:19:39] <ThatOneGuy> uh,
prob.
L152[15:19:55] <ThatOneGuy> gotta go,
english class
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L154[15:21:38] <sandbox> what is
SSTV?
L155[15:22:07] <packbart> noise ;)
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L159[15:42:47] <raptop> ooh
L160[15:42:57] <Althego> (she cant fly
planes)
L161[15:44:41] <Althego> she said it, and
i think so too, ksp is not an intersting game to stream, because
you spend most of the time in the editor
L162[15:45:03] <raptop> unfortunately
probably accurate
L163[15:48:32] <darsie> Some stream
sometimes abridged versions of flights/missions/bugs.
L164[15:48:47] <darsie> Like SSTO Eve and
back or so.
L165[15:49:20] <Althego> as long as the
streamer talks the game is secondary
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L167[15:51:40] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L168[15:51:40] <LunchBot> Egg-fried rice
on buttered toast with pepper.
L169[15:51:58] <ThatOneGuy> I have
returned eating... That.
L170[16:05:50] <FLHerne> it's a good
lunch
L171[16:11:12] <ThatOneGuy> lol
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L175[16:51:48] <ThatOneGuy>
sooooooooooooo.....
L176[16:52:30] <FLHerne> what?
L177[16:55:26] <SporkWitch> darsie: were
you being serious when you asked if you can transmit TV with radio?
Think that through a moment and then look at history; cable TV
wasn't invented until the 80's lol
L178[16:57:08] <ThatOneGuy> lol
L179[16:58:16] <Althego> i thinks he knows
that, but i dont exactly get what that conversation was about
L180[16:58:49] <Althego> probably was a
counter joke to the launch being on cable
L181[16:58:51] <Mat2ch> maybe darsie meant
"receive"
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L183[17:00:05] <SporkWitch> Althego: never
know these days, the new generations seem to take some things for
granted and not think stuff through (heck, I've literally played
FPS games with with people that didn't understand the concept of
calling out clock directions because they've never even seen an
analog clock...)
L184[17:00:24] <Althego> hehe
L185[17:00:35] <Althego> how is t hat even
possible
L186[17:01:09] <Althego> somewhere they
had to see an analog clock. a railway station, an airport,
whatever
L187[17:01:46] <SporkWitch> no one wears
watches any more and they have smartphones strapped to their hands
from like 5 years old, never any cause to look at one or
learn
L188[17:02:37] <Althego> to be honest i
find analog clocks hard to read
L189[17:02:40] <SporkWitch> Americans also
do a lot less rail and air travel than others, and i'm pretty sure
most subways in the US have had digital displays for decades; I
know they're all digital in DC
L190[17:02:52] <Althego> it takes so much
more effort than to just read the numbers
L191[17:03:17] <SporkWitch> sure, but they
were a product of their time. Watch a video on just how a
mechanical watch works, it's incredible.
L192[17:03:31] <Althego> actually most
people find it easier
L193[17:03:45] <Althego> probably because
they just want to know the approcimate time
L195[17:04:00] <Althego> but i want to
know the exact time, and that is why it is so hard for me
L198[17:06:32] <SporkWitch> i actually
have a mechanical pocket watch with transparent face, and the back
also opens to both function as a stand and so you can see the
workings inside
L199[17:07:57] <Althego> lol fox mom put
chat into a space hemet
L200[17:13:13] <FLHerne> what does that
even mean
L202[17:13:32] <Althego> bottom left, chat
is in a helmet
L204[17:22:29] <SporkWitch> unnaturally
short loading times :P
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L206[17:35:58] <umaxtu> my load times are
kinda long. idk if that is because I'm running the game off my
NAS
L207[17:37:35] <SporkWitch> that will
definitely be a contributing factor, mine are ridiculous because of
the ridiculous number of complex mods lol
L208[17:37:46] <SporkWitch> takes about 5
minutes or so to get to the main menu after starting lol
L209[17:38:38] <umaxtu> the 10gig
connection to my NAS should eliminate that bottleneck.
L210[17:42:40] <SporkWitch> there's still
overhead that isn't present with a local disk
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L215[18:06:56] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L216[18:06:56] <LunchBot> In order to
prove to your boss that the terminal doesn't accept wildcards, you
issue #rm -rf * in the root directory. Never give up. Never
surrender.
L217[18:07:36] <Althego> hehe
L218[18:07:45] <ThatOneGuy> I dont get
it
L219[18:08:07] <ThatOneGuy> Is this a
reference to something?
L220[18:08:21] <SporkWitch> "Never
give up. Never surrender" is the motto / tag line from Galaxy
Quest
L221[18:08:47] <Althego> never gave up
trying yo prove it
L222[18:08:56] <Althego> and deeted
everything in the proces
L223[18:09:18] <ThatOneGuy> Okay....Ima
look up what THAT is. I swear, I learn more from this chat room
than I do in school.
L224[18:09:27] <Althego> what
L225[18:09:33] <Althego> you dont know
galaxy quest?
L226[18:09:41] <SporkWitch> Galaxy Quest
was a movie with numerous famous actors parodying Star Trek
L227[18:09:52] <ThatOneGuy> Just looked it
up
L228[18:09:55] <umaxtu> and fan
culture
L229[18:09:59] <ThatOneGuy> sounds oddly
familliar
L230[18:10:22] <umaxtu> Galaxy Quest is
over 20 years old at this point isn't it?
L231[18:10:28] <Althego> omg
L232[18:10:38] <ThatOneGuy> unfortunately
yes
L233[18:10:44] <ThatOneGuy> sorry
L234[18:11:12] <ThatOneGuy> I do this to
my dad all the time, he gets legitimately aggravated
L235[18:11:22] <Althego> hehe
L236[18:11:35] <ThatOneGuy> This is why I
dont play jeopardy with him
L237[18:11:51] <umaxtu> well it's his
fault for not showing you quality movies
L238[18:12:07] <ThatOneGuy> wait, you guys
are like 30, arnt you?
L239[18:12:21] <SporkWitch> 37
L240[18:12:27] <ThatOneGuy> Am I the only
one here in school?
L241[18:12:46] <ThatOneGuy> Jesus, I
picked the wrong subject
L242[18:12:49] <Althego> hehe
L243[18:13:12] <umaxtu> I am in a school
right now.
L244[18:13:19] <umaxtu> cause I'm paid
to
L245[18:13:42] <ThatOneGuy> most of you
were around when Apollo took off. Im over here having to deal with
spacex
L246[18:13:59] <Althego> lol not that
old
L247[18:14:10] <Kalpa> Nah, our childhood
was like... the space shuttle
L248[18:14:11] <ThatOneGuy> JK, but
still
L249[18:14:16] <ThatOneGuy> lol
L250[18:14:32] <ThatOneGuy> I wish more
people were like me
L251[18:14:45] <ThatOneGuy> It sucks being
a rocket nerd
L252[18:14:58] <Deddly> Being a rocket
nerd is AWESOME
L253[18:15:11] <ThatOneGuy> Alright, cant
argue with that
L254[18:15:26] <ThatOneGuy> but everybody
looks at me like im crazy
L255[18:15:35] <ThatOneGuy> people do that
to you?
L256[18:16:23] <Althego> what is this
"people" you talk of
L257[18:16:29] <umaxtu> mostly when I
start ranting about crossovers
L258[18:16:34] <Deddly> I suppose they
would give me odd looks if I started talking about DeltaV and the
oberth effect
L259[18:16:35] <ThatOneGuy> lol
L260[18:17:07] <ThatOneGuy> Family and
friends, as well as anybody who dosn't have a basic understanding
of physics.
L261[18:17:10] <Deddly> The kind of people
I choose as friends respect the fact that people have different
interests
L262[18:17:11] <ThatOneGuy> so
everybody
L263[18:18:00] <ThatOneGuy> Not really an
option for me. You would think that more people in WV would be
intrested in rockets
L264[18:18:09] <Deddly> So what are you
actually studying, ThatOneGuy?
L265[18:18:53] <ThatOneGuy> Nothing. Im in
the middle of nowwhere. There is nothing to study. Everything I
know is self taught or read.
L266[18:19:19] <ThatOneGuy> turns out that
WV is really poor. I need to move.
L267[18:19:45] <Deddly> Well, you said you
were at school, so you must be studying something, no?
L268[18:19:54] <ThatOneGuy>
highscool
L269[18:20:00] <ThatOneGuy> yeah
L270[18:20:24] <ThatOneGuy> besides your
typical classes, thats it
L271[18:20:38] <ThatOneGuy> beer,
religion, and sports are king here
L272[18:20:50] <ThatOneGuy> and I hate all
three
L273[18:20:58] <umaxtu> and probably not
good beer
L274[18:21:06] <Deddly> Are you thinking
of going for an education in aerospace or rocketry of some kind?
There are several people on the forums who have been moved to do
that because of their experience from playing KSP
L275[18:21:10] <ThatOneGuy> okay, I dont
hate religion, but I dissagree with it
L276[18:22:03] <ThatOneGuy> I am, I am
aiming for astrophysicist, but I need to move first. No Physics or
Trig classes here.
L277[18:22:12] <ThatOneGuy> And no, its
not good beer
L278[18:22:20] <Althego> remember, there
is no royal road in mathematics
L279[18:22:31] <ThatOneGuy> ROOTBEER is
the only good beer
L280[18:22:41] <ThatOneGuy> yeah, I
know
L281[18:22:58] <ThatOneGuy> It just, im
watching my life fly by,
L282[18:23:12] <ThatOneGuy> and the only
thing I can do is school and games
L283[18:23:23] <ThatOneGuy> That
sucks
L284[18:23:58] <ThatOneGuy> but that is a
story for another day
L285[18:24:01] <Deddly> Have you
considered online classes??
L286[18:24:22] <ThatOneGuy> no internet.
fastest speed at the house is 2.5mbps
L287[18:24:23] <Deddly> Excuse the double
question marks - my keyboard has started to misbehave
L288[18:24:34] <ThatOneGuy> ahaha
L289[18:24:49] <Althego> eh
L290[18:24:49] <umaxtu> there's always
youtube-dlp
L291[18:24:54] <Althego> yes yt
L292[18:24:56] <ThatOneGuy> true
L293[18:25:19] <Deddly> Pretty sure
distance studies have been a thing since before the Internet even
existed
L294[18:25:24] <ThatOneGuy> school is
locked down TIGHT though, no way through lightspeed that I knoww
of
L295[18:25:35] <ThatOneGuy> nope, not
here
L296[18:25:41] <umaxtu> if you want to
learn some low level computer science stuff, I highly recommend Ben
Eater's channel
L297[18:26:10] <umaxtu> it depends on how
they've implemented lightspeed
L298[18:26:12] <ThatOneGuy> I will see if
I can get admin to unblock some of the channels
L299[18:26:40] <ThatOneGuy> every thing is
blocked from youtube to... You know..
L300[18:26:54] <ThatOneGuy> im suprised
that I can still use this
L301[18:27:04] <umaxtu> they might not
unblock him since he did one video where he reverse engineered a
naughty word tv censoring device
L302[18:27:15] <Althego> hehe
L303[18:27:19] <ThatOneGuy> ha i saw
that
L304[18:28:25] <ThatOneGuy> internet might
cut give me a min
L305[18:29:29] <ThatOneGuy> im back
L306[18:29:32] <Kalpa> 'no internet' -
'fastest speed is 2.5mbps' >_>
L307[18:29:47] <Kalpa> And the 9600bps
modem way back when was super high speed...
L308[18:29:51] <Althego> did you know?
there are more people on facebook than on the internet
L309[18:30:08] <ThatOneGuy> how...
L310[18:30:16] <ThatOneGuy> how is that
possible
L311[18:30:19] <Althego> because they dont
know there is more
L312[18:31:07] <ThatOneGuy> im so cofused
(._.)
L313[18:31:28] <Althego> but this was
probably true a few years ago, facebook is in decline now
L314[18:31:59] <Althego> anyway 2.5
megabits, i would have killed for it 20 years ago
L315[18:32:17] <ThatOneGuy> that is a
whole 'nother ....Crap...Show, lets not
L316[18:32:51] <ThatOneGuy> really?
L317[18:33:04] <ThatOneGuy> I can barely
load google..
L318[18:33:09] <ThatOneGuy> Huh
L319[18:33:13] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: they
posted a tiktok clip as youtube short?! If that is the quality
inside the dev team... we're fricked
L320[18:33:20] <raptop> F
L321[18:33:22] <Althego> hehe
L322[18:33:27] <ThatOneGuy> lol
L323[18:34:03] <ThatOneGuy> yall saw then,
did you?
L324[18:34:15] <Althego> users: why cant
you just be normal? dev team: screams on tiktok
L325[18:34:45] <ThatOneGuy>
;iuaryskfb;awjeevbpuylaejhfbvk;caegdvb ;aekuvbsj cq;u.wN????!!!!
People: yes
L326[18:34:59] <Althego> that is not even
valid perl
L327[18:35:06] <ThatOneGuy> SHHHHHH
L328[18:35:15] <ThatOneGuy> it will be
over soon
L329[18:36:28] <raptop> Althego: oof
L330[18:36:32] <ThatOneGuy> so, do any of
you work in areospace
L331[18:37:29] *
raptop does some astronomy-related work, though not
aerospace
L332[18:37:31] <Mat2ch> I think none of us
does
L333[18:37:39] <Mat2ch> none?
Nobody?
L334[18:37:42] <umaxtu> depends if Rokker
counts
L335[18:37:55] <SporkWitch> NASA and
SpaceX are both customers, does that count? lol
L336[18:38:03] <ThatOneGuy> Whats with the
star?
L337[18:38:03] <Althego> i used to program
aircraft simulators, but since then switched to
telecommunication
L338[18:38:06] <raptop> huh, bnums is
offline
L339[18:38:35] <ThatOneGuy> wow, thats
actually pretty cool
L340[18:38:56] <Mat2ch> uh, part of my
last job was to play with simulator hardware. But now I'm in
consulting (nobody wants to know how bad their it security is
:(
L341[18:39:17] <umaxtu> bad. it's
bad!
L342[18:39:31] <ThatOneGuy> Good, because
Grammer is not your strong suit lol
L343[18:39:39] <raptop> grammar security
consulting
L344[18:39:45] <raptop> (wait, that sounds
like a startup)
L345[18:39:46] <ThatOneGuy> actually, I
cant really talk here
L346[18:39:58] <ThatOneGuy> It does!
L347[18:40:15] <Rokker> ThatOneGuy: I
stare at old planes and rockets a lot at work but i don't think
thats what you're looking for
L348[18:40:24] <Rokker> I also study them
a lot in my off time
L349[18:40:35] <ThatOneGuy> what do you
do, though?
L350[18:40:46] <ThatOneGuy> Just
study?
L351[18:41:34] <Rokker> nah I work in a
museum but not in any of the cool hands on stuff
L352[18:41:47] <ThatOneGuy> awwww..
L353[18:42:00] <ThatOneGuy> Thats sounds
cool.
L354[18:42:03] <Mat2ch> ThatOneGuy: Ever
thought off the fact that English might not be my first language?
;)
L355[18:42:08] <Rokker> just operate our
attractions and give tours etc
L356[18:42:21] <Rokker> Mat2ch: ew
L357[18:42:21] <ThatOneGuy> Uhm, no, and
now I feel like an ass
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L359[18:42:53] <Mat2ch> *of :P
L360[18:43:02] <ThatOneGuy> Im trying to
get my dad do get us a tour at the JPL, but he is not having
it
L361[18:44:00] <raptop> Oh yeah, JPL has
kinda restricted access
L362[18:44:15] <ThatOneGuy> I know
L363[18:44:23] <Rokker> ThatOneGuy: I'm
going to Huntsville in spring and I want to see if a family friend
can get me on to MSFC to see the engine park
L364[18:44:34] <ThatOneGuy> thats
cool
L365[18:44:36] <Rokker> but idk if that'll
happen
L366[18:45:01] <darsie> SporkWitch: It was
a pun, because TV isn't radio.
L367[18:45:10] <umaxtu> if you want to
visit Michould, just lose both engines and land on the levee
L368[18:45:36] <umaxtu> er Michoud
L369[18:45:49] <ThatOneGuy> Im also
thinking about faking to be a scholar that way I can get into the
Archives at Nasa, but part of me thinks thats illegal
L370[18:46:49] <Rokker> you're
overthinking it
L371[18:46:59] <ThatOneGuy> wdym?
L372[18:47:14] <raptop> NASA has *a lot*
of stuff available online
L373[18:47:29] <ThatOneGuy> Yeah, but its
not the same
L374[18:47:36] <Rokker> most federal
archives are relatively available for the public to visit, you just
have to have a research idea in mind and ask
L375[18:48:06] <Rokker> like anyone can
request to visit my museums archives for documents in our
archives
L376[18:48:07] <ThatOneGuy> Im not just
for knowledge, experiances are always nice to have
L377[18:48:24] <Rokker> and that's
literally on a highly restricted military base
L378[18:48:38] <ThatOneGuy> oh. I really
am overthinking it
L379[18:49:19] <FLHerne> never
underestimate the power of just asking people
L380[18:49:39] <Rokker> now they may say
no, but it literally never hurts to ask
L381[18:49:55] <Althego> hehe amazing, fox
had an epiphany that gravity is still there in space
L382[18:50:01] <ThatOneGuy> That has
proven itself to me time and time again, yet I havent absorbed the
knowledge yet
L383[18:50:04] <FLHerne> scientists and
engineers are often quite happy to show their work to interested
people, especially kids
L384[18:50:09] <Deddly> <ThatOneGuy>
Whats with the star? <-- it's a feature of IRC. Try saying
something starting with /me
L385[18:50:17] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L386[18:50:27] *
raptop performs an action
L387[18:50:35] <ThatOneGuy> nice
action
L388[18:50:37] *
Deddly demonstrates
L389[18:51:15] *
ThatOneGuy Gets it now
L390[18:51:21] *
Deddly applauds
L391[18:51:26] <FLHerne> I remember about
your age I went to a lecture about Darwin's research voyages, and
she mentioned that they had an original octopus that he'd pickled
in the Zoology Department's basement
L392[18:51:39] <ThatOneGuy> wtf
L393[18:51:47] <FLHerne> so obviously I
asked afterwards (a) can you sign my copy of your book (b) can I
see the pickled octopus
L394[18:51:51] <SporkWitch> darsie: tv
originally, literally, was radio... just as wifi is radio (despite
that braindead judge ruling otherwise)
L395[18:52:01] <ThatOneGuy> lol
L396[18:52:13] <FLHerne> you would not
believe how much neat but very creepy stuff they have in the
Zoology Dept's basement
L397[18:52:27] <ThatOneGuy> thats actually
pretty neat
L398[18:52:31] <darsie> Radio is audio, TV
is audio+video.
L399[18:52:39] *
Deddly chokes
L400[18:52:48] *
darsie squeezes Deddly.
L401[18:52:59] <SporkWitch> both of which
were transmitted via radio...
L402[18:53:01] <FLHerne> depends which of
the definitions of the word "radio" you're using :p
L403[18:53:09] <FLHerne> English is a
silly language
L404[18:53:18] <ThatOneGuy> english
L405[18:53:31] <raptop> English is indeed
a silly language
L406[18:53:34] <Althego> camelot, a silly
place
L407[18:53:47] <ThatOneGuy> oh, dear
L408[18:54:02] <raptop> !wisdom add
<FLHerne> you would not believe how much neat but very creepy
stuff they have in the Zoology Dept's basement
L409[18:54:02] <LunchBot> Added quote:
<FLHerne> you would not believe how much neat but very creepy
stuff they have in the Zoology Dept's basement
L410[18:54:08] <Althego> trust me english
is actually realtively nice
L411[18:54:22] <FLHerne> ;8ball are we
going through the entire list of Monty Python lines again?
L412[18:54:22] <LunchBot> Expect total
success.
L413[18:54:23] <packbart> the words are so
very short, though
L414[18:54:23] <ThatOneGuy> Haha
L415[18:55:49] <packbart> I like a good
compositewordspellingfrenzy
L416[18:56:27] <Deddly> English is crazy
because it has more roots than a mathematics textbook
L417[18:56:47] <ThatOneGuy> well, this has
been absolutely pleasant, but, Ive got to get ready for Algebra in
10 min. I sincerely hope I get to talk to yall later. Thank you, by
the way.
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L419[19:00:49] <Deddly> Example of crazy
English: "You used to use used ewes"
L420[19:01:32] <Deddly> You used to be
used to using used ewes
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L422[19:02:35] <Mat2ch> I had to lookup
what ewes are...
L423[19:02:40] <Althego> me too
L424[19:02:41] <darsie> same
L425[19:02:43] <Mat2ch> :D
L426[19:03:05] <packbart> Used ewes?
Ew...
L427[19:03:26] <Althego> lol
L428[19:03:36] <Mat2ch> but you probably
all don't know what Zibbe are as well, so...
L429[19:03:39] <Althego> depends on what
kind of usage
L430[19:19:41] <raptop> packbart: I blame
the kiwis
L431[19:20:24] <Althego> the people of new
zealand?
L432[19:23:03] <raptop> yeah
L433[19:23:13] <raptop> partially this is
a joke about how there are several times as many sheep as
people
L434[19:31:01] <FLHerne> traditionally
that joke is applied to the Welsh
L435[19:31:44] <FLHerne> > Wernher
claims to have a plan to turn the entire astronaut complex into a
rocket... The resulting explosion sends chunks of Duna hurtling
into places unknown.
L436[19:32:46] <Althego> as expected
L437[19:34:40] <packbart> one part mod had
a huge lab with a crew capacity of 40 or so. Its description was
like "When you need to take the whole R&D department into
space"
L438[19:35:24] <raptop> hah
L439[19:40:54] <Deddly> Which one of you
posted the link to that KSP stream where she's learning from
scratch?
L440[19:41:20] <Deddly> How does she have
a degree in this subject and not grasp the most basic things?
L441[19:41:50] <packbart> because
Youtube
L442[19:42:25] <Althego> she doesnt
L443[19:42:39] <Deddly> She literally just
said she has a degree in this subject
L444[19:42:48] <Althego> and she didnt
mean it
L445[19:43:28] <Deddly> Ah
L446[19:43:34] <Deddly> So the title is
also a joke
L447[19:43:36] <Althego> for entertainment
purposes
L448[19:43:45] <Deddly> Makes sense
now
L449[19:44:29] <packbart> oh, still
live
L450[19:45:15] <Althego> i want to see
heer get into orbit, because after that she can start the
career
L451[19:54:01] <Deddly> That will be a
great moment
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L453[19:59:47] <umaxtu> this one of your
vtubers Althego?
L454[19:59:55] <Althego> yes
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L458[21:15:43] <Althego> heh and she
doesnt launch the orbital rocket from the tutorial because has to
go
L459[21:17:29] <Althego> and tomorrow is
ftl
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L462[21:19:15] <Deddly> FTL should be fun.
Great game
L464[21:26:33] <Althego> next launch
maybe
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L468[21:35:02] <Kerbal_Meister> whats up
guys
L469[21:36:49] <Mat2ch> Not much
L470[21:37:10] <Kerbal_Meister> trying to
install mods rn for the first time
L471[21:37:24] <Mat2ch> Do you use
CKAN?
L472[21:37:30] <Mat2ch> If not you should
use it.
L473[21:37:37] <Mat2ch> Makes managing
mods so much easier.
L474[21:39:04] <Kerbal_Meister> ohh im
going to check it out, right now i just dumped them into the game
data folder but that didnt seem to work
L475[21:42:07] <Deddly> I also highly
recommend CKAN
L476[21:42:19] <Deddly> Especially if it's
your first time installing mods
L477[21:44:00] <SporkWitch> further
recommendation of CKAN, it's basically mandatory
L478[21:44:16] <Izaya> not using CKAN is
like installing software without a package manager
L479[21:44:25] <Izaya> just asking for
trouble
L480[21:44:40] <SporkWitch> (if you're not
familiar with a package manager, think "app store" on a
smartphone)
L481[21:44:42] <darsie> use ckan
L482[21:44:47] <Kerbal_Meister> Just
installed CKAN. This is amazing. I have never seen something easy
and automatic like this.
L483[21:44:58] <darsie> :)
L484[21:45:01] <Kerbal_Meister> No im a
little familiar with software stuff
L485[21:45:10] <Kerbal_Meister> This is so
cool
L486[21:45:14] <SporkWitch> you may need
to tweak the "compatible version" settings, as some mods
have older versions listed as the max supported, but they'll still
work fine anyway
L487[21:46:13] <Kerbal_Meister> This is
great. Thank you so much guys
L488[21:46:43] <Deddly> Awesome. Just
remember not to install too many mods at once, otherwise you might
run into trouble and we won't know which mod is causing it
L489[21:47:12] <Mat2ch> also having too
many mods can slow down KSP
L490[21:47:21] <Mat2ch> and I don't just
mean the loading times :D
L491[21:47:29] <Kerbal_Meister> Yes,
thanks. I only installed MechJeb 2 and KSP Recall for now.
L492[21:47:48] <Kerbal_Meister> Yeah i
have a pretty old PC so im not going to install any graphic mods
XD
L493[21:47:54] <Izaya> Might want to grab
KSP Community Fixes too
L494[21:48:00] <Izaya> It helps with some
base-game memory leaks
L495[21:48:01] <SporkWitch> some
recommended mods that either improve graphics or provide QoL
improvements: Alarm Enhancements, AmpYear (calculates how long your
batteries will last, and how much you need to survive night/dark
side transit), Astronomer's Visual Pack, Distant Object Enhancement
(see things farther away, like ships and planets), Docking Cam,
Engine Lighting Relit (adds emission for engine plumes),
L496[21:48:31] <Kerbal_Meister> What do
memory leaks cause?
L497[21:48:42] <Mat2ch> Kerbal_Meister:
slowdowns... many
L498[21:49:08] <Izaya> the more mods you
have the more extreme they get, too
L499[21:49:24] <Kerbal_Meister> Docking
cam and Alarm Enhancements sound great. Had countless times
Exploding after a 45min. trip....
L500[21:49:26] <Izaya> (generally, anyway.
ideally mods contain no bugs, but haha)
L501[21:49:51] <FLHerne> effect of a
memory leak is that the game steadily uses more and more memory
over time
L502[21:50:02] <Kerbal_Meister> Ah
thanks
L503[21:50:04] <FLHerne> (because it
allocates memory but forgets to free it)
L504[21:50:08] <SporkWitch> Environmental
Visual Enhancements Redux, Maneuver Node Evolved and
ManeuverNodeSplitter (adds some tools to more easily set up nodes
how you want), Parallax (adds more terrain clutter to make things
more interesting), PlanetShine (reflected light from planets
surfaces), Real Plume and Waterfall (improved engine plumes),
SCANsat (adds satellites to create maps of bodies, really fun and
pretty),
L505[21:50:15] <FLHerne> until eventually
it's used all your memory and hangs or crashes
L506[21:50:28] <SporkWitch> and finally,
TUFX and Textures Unlimited, to enable the enhanced texture and
lighting packs.
L507[21:50:40] <raptop> Obviously I should
just get a machine with a few exabytes of RAM
L508[21:50:47] <Deddly> SporkWitch, he did
just say he's not looking for visual mods
L509[21:50:55] <Izaya> tfw upgraded to
32GB and it's still not enough
L510[21:51:03] <FLHerne> Izaya: I had that
:-(
L511[21:51:06] <FLHerne> although not for
KSP
L512[21:51:11] <SporkWitch> i missed it as
i was already typing
L513[21:51:17] <Deddly> :)
L514[21:51:32] <Izaya> zswap goes a long
way though, it ends up with compression ratios in the 95%
range
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L517[21:52:05] <SporkWitch> I would point
out that Paralax and RealPlume don't seem to have any meaningful
performance impact, but do improve the visuals. Waterfall
definitely stay away if you don't have a good CPU and GPU
L518[21:52:08] <FLHerne> Virgin Orbit
launch in a few minutes
L519[21:52:26] <Izaya> Parallax absolutely
has a performance impact
L521[21:52:55] <SporkWitch> i literally
didn't notice any difference with or without it on my old
GTX1060
L522[21:53:00] <Kerbal_Meister> Guys I
have a gameplay question. I have a small research station on the
North Pole (for fun) and i wanted to drop a rover over there with
some supplies from a rocket (went great). Is there any way to set
up something like an autopilot or something for a precise landing?
Whenever i try to "Set Target" my rocket just aims
straight at it causing it to
L523[21:53:00] <Kerbal_Meister>
crash.
L524[21:53:01] <Izaya> It certainly makes
the game look better, but rendering that extra geometry isn't
free
L525[21:53:05] <FLHerne> I guess perf
impact depends whether you were GPU or CPU-limited before
L526[21:53:38] <SporkWitch>
Kerbal_Meister: you can program your own autopilot with kOS mod, or
you can use mechjeb (its landing autopilot has mixed results)
L527[21:53:47] <FLHerne> if you have a
good GPU and are CPU-limited by physics calculations, the extra
geometry won't cost much
L528[21:53:52] <Izaya> Kerbal Engineering
Redux, Trajectories, and kOS all have something along those
lines
L529[21:54:21] <SporkWitch> trajectories
and KER are really good ones for providing you guidance for a
manual landing
L530[21:54:39] <SporkWitch> KER's suicide
burn timer is also really handy and fairly accurate
L531[21:54:53] <Kerbal_Meister> Thanks
guys. Going to try it out.
L532[21:55:38] <SporkWitch> You might also
look into BonVoyage, which can automate rovers to travel in the
background. Make sure to save before loading in, though, and fiddle
with the settings to figure out what will get it to load in without
exploding heh
L533[21:56:22] <SporkWitch> (strongly
recommended, as you might have noticed wheels aren't exactly
reliable, especially at reasonable speeds, so this makes
exploration much less of a chore)
L534[21:57:09] <Mat2ch> Izaya: oh, I have
to try those community fixes
L535[22:00:40] <packbart> MechJeb's
Landing Guidance can be iffy when the TWR is too high (or too low).
When it works, it sets the craft dow within a few m of the target
(so make sure not to target the base directly, unless it's got a
landing pad :)
L537[22:01:58] <SporkWitch> it also loses
its mind if you do any staging after starting it; i think it does
most of the calculations ahead of time and only makes minor
corrections in-flight, so it can't account for a big TWR change
from either dropping tanks or dropping a whole stage and changing
engines
L538[22:03:25] <packbart> well, the
example above includes staging and control point change after
starting the autolanad
L539[22:04:43] <Izaya> Trajectories also
doesn't cope with staging, apparently it's much harder to simulate
the atmospheric effects on future states of the craft.
L542[22:12:59] <umaxtu> for some reason,
I've never gotten into KOS
L543[22:13:57] <packbart> I like the
terminal but I just can't stomach the syntax
L544[22:14:08] <Izaya> kerboscript is
awful
L545[22:14:09] <packbart> whoever came up
with the kOS language really hated programming
L546[22:14:21] <SporkWitch> it uses
periods instead of semicolons and it drives me insane lol
L547[22:14:50] <packbart> RedOnion's Lua
with kOS nice terminals, that would be a thing
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L549[22:15:13] <Izaya> that'd be
sweet
L550[22:15:16] <Izaya> love Lua
L552[22:17:11] <packbart> I used to
automate much more with kRPC. now I build differently or use
MechJeb ;)
L553[22:17:46] <Izaya> Last I checked,
kRPC didn't work with Lua 5.4, so I didn't go down that route;
something to do with the protobuf libraries.
L554[22:18:38] <packbart> I used the
Python variant to run mining probes and transfer between fuel
tanks
L555[22:19:31] <packbart> (with MechJeb
called from kRPC to do the docking, landing and launches)
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L569[23:25:07] <zayinfinity> kspofficial
you should add more country space agency like Canada and Russia
Japan etc plz
L570[23:27:01] <FLHerne> You can add
custom flags quite easily
L572[23:31:23] <raptop> ^
L573[23:32:50] <FLHerne> > You try a
propellant combination you read about on Derek Lowe's blog.
Delicious!
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