L1[00:23:58] <FLHerne> partick: Hi

L2[00:25:05] <FLHerne> Welcome to #KSPOfficial :-)

L3[00:25:20] <FLHerne> (it's quiet but usually eo

L4[00:25:37] <FLHerne> *usually people show up eventually)

L10[01:30:06] <raptop> !8ball go advance things a bit in that one campaign?

L11[01:30:06] <LunchBot> Yes, definitely.

L14[01:37:02] <raptop> Also, I feel silly for not taking advantage of how you can move the navball to one side

L15[01:37:36] <raptop> Shame that the stock UI still seperates out the orbit info into two mutually exclusive tabs

L37[08:32:21] <Althego> zombanwa

L38[08:34:52] <XXCoder> ;mission

L39[08:34:53] <LunchBot> You decide to solve your problems by using regular expressions. The kraken attacks during a cutscene.

L40[08:35:05] <XXCoder> dang angered by regular expressions

L41[08:35:12] <XXCoder> too logical or something I guess

L42[08:38:30] <Althego> https://xkcd.com/1171/

L43[08:41:14] <XXCoder> hah

L44[09:00:04] <Mat2ch> the Vega C launched today didn't perform well :|

L45[09:00:25] <Althego> yes the line was curving fown instead of up

L46[09:30:25] <Mat2ch> They said there was a pressure leak or something in the second stage so it underperformed

L47[09:30:38] <Mat2ch> and I guess that's when they aborted and the third stage didn't fire at all

L50[11:30:43] <Althego> zombanwa again

L51[11:33:01] <darsie> .

L52[11:49:21] <NeckoGecko> zomba-what?

L53[11:54:45] <Mat2ch> some hololive content

L54[11:59:46] <NeckoGecko> Holol... WHAT? xD

L55[12:00:10] <NeckoGecko> I dont understand both of these words :D

L56[12:00:22] <Althego> good, it is better for you that way

L57[12:02:38] <Mat2ch> NeckoGecko: in that case you either just let it go or use a search engine. But beware of what you might find :D

L58[12:07:10] <NeckoGecko> sounds pretty... threating o_o

L60[12:37:22] <Althego> local leet time

L61[12:41:15] <NeckoGecko> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

L62[12:47:08] <darsie> .

L66[14:38:52] <ThatOneGuy> Merry Christmas!

L67[14:39:43] <Althego> in a few days

L68[14:46:56] <ThatOneGuy> well, yeah

L69[14:47:05] <ThatOneGuy> u right

L70[14:47:31] <darsie> calendar keeping was unreliable. Nobody knows when Christmas actually is/was.

L71[14:48:22] <Althego> but the original should be now, on the shortest day

L72[14:49:35] <darsie> That would be an unlikely coincidence.

L73[14:50:32] <Althego> not a coincidence, christians intentionally reused the already existing date

L78[15:15:13] <ThatOneGuy> !mission

L79[15:15:13] <LunchBot> You attempt to fire your rockets without advance notice, against union layoff agreements. Your capsule answers 404 and leaves without you.

L80[15:15:42] <ThatOneGuy> *Freezes*

L81[15:17:10] <raptop> whelp

L83[15:25:38] <raptop> !mission

L84[15:25:38] <LunchBot> You suddenly realize that everything is a simulation and you can do whatever you want without consequences. The friendship drive charges.

L85[15:26:07] <raptop> I like the implication that now everyone is friends with everything else

L86[15:49:51] <packbart> haven't charged the friendship drive in a while. There's a war on in the bubble now

L87[15:52:25] <raptop> What happens if you enable autopay on your friendship drive?

L88[15:53:52] <packbart> Thargoids steal all your credits

L95[19:23:41] <ThatOneGuy> Im BAAACKKK... :)

L97[19:26:23] <ThatOneGuy> !mission

L98[19:26:23] <LunchBot> You post a series of 2-4 hour long youtube videos about your unique physics discovery and how there is a shadowy conspiracy trying to stop you. Jeb is awarded a goldish medal for bravery.

L99[19:26:59] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch

L100[19:26:59] <LunchBot> Bacon and fried tomato sandwich.

L101[19:27:20] <Althego> so the bacon is raw but the tomato is fried?

L102[19:27:26] <raptop> Just don't eat a can of mystery goo

L103[19:27:45] <Althego> never make a sandwich smoothie, much less try to drink it

L104[19:28:28] <ThatOneGuy> Submarine-smoothie

L105[19:28:40] <Althego> making an icecream out of the blended sandwich is right out

L106[19:29:15] <ThatOneGuy> hey, are you guys open to a discussion about one of ksp2's mechanics?

L107[19:29:40] <raptop> I guess, though such discussions are hit or miss

L108[19:29:53] <ThatOneGuy> alright, give me a sec

L109[19:32:49] <ThatOneGuy> The way SoI's are set up in KSP1 are a bit unusual, to say the least, but it is unique and rather useful. However, with KSP2 coming out and having Interplanetary travel, we have been arguing about how a star systems SoI will work. I would assume that it would work like a planet's SoI, with it changing to the dominant body when you leave the planets

L110[19:32:50] <ThatOneGuy> gravity. However, there is no "Dominant Body" in the nothingness between systems. I think that we will experience a period of no gravity, and just be able to "stop", essentially. My friends think that instead of there being no gravity towards an area, that it will just snap into place, like planet orbit to Kerbol orbit.

L111[19:33:06] <ThatOneGuy> . I think that my theory is correct but does have problems by saying that I could travel into the vast nothingness of space, and just keep going with no orbit to anything, and thiers is saying that no matter how far away I get from either, I will always be orbiting one.

L112[19:34:40] <raptop> I wouldn't be surprised if Kerbol etc get SOI boundaries with interstellar space(tm), but would want to wait to see what the devs do

L113[19:35:49] <ThatOneGuy> Idk, because that would mean a potentially infinite "Box", if you will.

L114[19:36:25] <raptop> The distance limits in KSP1 are really just precision related

L115[19:36:56] <raptop> Like there's no hard limit

L116[19:37:05] <ThatOneGuy> That would mean limitless systems made by mod communites, as well as space to exceed even the largests values of speed

L117[19:37:12] <ThatOneGuy> oh

L118[19:38:07] <ThatOneGuy> yeah, but eventually is an overflow, right? The Kraken is a fine example of this.

L119[19:38:21] <ThatOneGuy> And they said the were killing the Kraken

L120[19:40:31] <ThatOneGuy> IDK, i know its not important, but at this point, im pretty curious. This is going to be a really important part of the game.

L121[19:40:35] <raptop> There have been multiple attempts at Kraken slaying in the past, we'll see if they succeed this time

L122[19:40:43] <ThatOneGuy> lol

L123[19:41:04] <ThatOneGuy> Im just really exited

L124[19:41:05] <Althego> imagine the field day danny is going to have with the first available version :)

L125[19:41:12] <raptop> Anyway, is it really the dev's fault if a player just keeps on going into the void, or uses a script to generate a million-part craft?

L126[19:41:27] <ThatOneGuy> no, but

L127[19:41:34] <ThatOneGuy> actually, just no

L128[19:41:57] <ThatOneGuy> I just like to think about these things

L129[19:43:05] <ThatOneGuy> Its like shower thoughts, but cooler and extra meaning less

L130[19:44:34] <raptop> I'm somewhat concerned that the devs are too wedded to keeping the parts similar to KSP1, including how we arguably have too many engines chasing too few roles

L131[19:45:58] <raptop> Or, adding the Skipper meant that a cluster of 2 or 3 LV-T30/LV-T45 engines never makes sense. And similarly, why use 2 Skippers when you can use 1 Mainsail?

L132[19:46:07] <ThatOneGuy> well, according to the forums, they realized that, and are now making players aware of EVERY minor detail so you can get more use out of them

L133[19:47:04] <ThatOneGuy> Oh, the whole "why use mo engines on a shuttle when I can use 3 vectors" thing

L134[19:49:47] <ThatOneGuy> honestly, you have a point. MOAR boosters insnt just a saying, its the way the game is played. The amount of realism is just up to how much you want to limit yourself

L136[20:13:26] <FLHerne> ;mission add You spend ages describing to a computer what common sense is.

L137[20:13:26] <LunchBot> Added mission: You spend ages describing to a computer what common sense is.

L138[20:16:54] <raptop> !mission

L139[20:16:54] <LunchBot> You try to jetpack from the surface of the Mun to orbit for the 13th time. You maintain complete control over the craft during your descent into terrain.

L140[20:17:05] <raptop> kerbal, craft, close enough

L147[22:35:36] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Tradition would dictate that what happens next is fall, and ruin, and betrayal that leaves a bitter taste in one’s mouth until death clears it away.

L148[22:35:36] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Tradition would dictate that what happens next is fall, and ruin, and betrayal that leaves a bitter taste in one’s mouth until death clears it away.

L149[22:42:37] <raptop> DDG doesn't know anything about that quote

L150[22:46:37] <FLHerne> raptop: blog https://sigridellis.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/winter-solstice-camelot-station-2/

L151[22:46:40] <FLHerne> poem https://sigridellis.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/winter-solstice-camelot-station-by-john-m-ford/

L152[22:46:48] <FLHerne> I like it but it's strange

L153[22:47:07] <raptop> hm

L154[23:31:39] <FLHerne> > You invent a new kind of snack, unsurpassed in the history of Kerbalkind. Jeb chokes to death on a KitKat, but gets better.

L155[23:33:28] <raptop> yum

L156[23:51:00] <darsie> How does Jeb get better after dying?

L157[23:51:57] <raptop> Death cannot stob Jeb. Only the Kraken.