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L28[05:11:18] <Althego> isnt that days
old
L29[05:11:52] <SporkWitch> potentially; it
hadn't come up on any of my casual feeds, but this video just
popped up from 9 hours ago
L30[05:12:38] <Althego> on 22
L31[05:12:45] <Althego> that is more than a
week
L32[05:12:54] *
SporkWitch shrugs
L33[05:13:07] <SporkWitch> didn't see
anyone mention it here, figured people here might be
interested
L34[05:13:20] <SporkWitch> was new to me,
in any case
L35[05:13:30] <Althego> not much is going
on here these days
L36[05:13:41] <SporkWitch> k?
L37[05:14:20] *
raptop isn't up on the whole non-LTE calculations for hot jupiters,
so can't really comment
L38[05:19:12] <Izaya> non-Long Term
Evolution?
L39[05:20:44] <raptop> Local Thermodynamic
Equilibrium
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L42[05:58:51] <Izaya> I've run into the
flight state bugs before but I never considered exploiting it like
that before lmao
L43[05:59:19] <SporkWitch> i never
encountered it, but i also never really messed with the robotics
parts, but yeah, definitely clever usage haha
L44[06:06:51] <SporkWitch> he did actual,
legit science in this lol. this is glorious
L45[06:07:48] <SporkWitch> (as in, he
performed a legitimate experiment that confirms how you would
EXPECT gravity to work, namely it's a point value at the centre of
a planet, then inverse square rule from there)
L46[06:08:34] <SporkWitch> (expect it to
work in a game, that is)
L47[06:11:12] <Althego> hehe
L48[06:18:19] <SporkWitch> someone in the
comments suggested exploring the sun, and he replied thinking that
some of the aerodynamic and thermal bugs might make it possible and
he's going to look into it haha
L49[06:18:36] <Althego> lol
L51[06:19:27] <Althego> as usual i liked
the first half, didnt like the second half
L52[06:20:02] <SporkWitch> the character
drama of it was quite enjoyable, the science was just nonsense for
the most part. The end was a little forced, though, I'll give
you
L53[06:24:04] <SporkWitch> though now it's
got me wondering if you could theoretically trigger some fission
reactions to give some extra life to a star... at an elementary
level it makes sense (fission being the opposite of fusion, though
the things we use for fission are obviously much heavier than what
the sun can fuse). Feels like it should be theoretically possible,
just functionally implausible (how do you do helium
L54[06:24:15] <SporkWitch> fission, and at
a scale to "rejuvenate" the sun?) heh
L55[06:24:28] <SporkWitch> and no, i'm not
pondering this seriously, more just curious what the numbers would
look like heh
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L61[08:52:59] <RSpace> Greetings
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L65[09:17:36] <Mat2ch> Soooo, Duna has a
black hole inside of it. Right? :D
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L67[09:18:55] <Althego> as al planets
L68[09:19:09] <Althego> if you look under
the surface you can see its strange glow
L69[09:20:53] <Mat2ch> Spooky. But the
spooky season is over.
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L81[13:47:48] <sandbox> huh, that was
strange
L83[13:49:19] <sandbox> I was all ready for
it, then it was 10 minutes later
L84[13:56:18] <Mat2ch> ready for?
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L86[14:39:45] <Althego> for leet
probably
L87[14:41:09] <darsie> mhm
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L89[14:41:16] <ThatOneGuy> Top of the
Mornin!
L91[14:41:30] <ThatOneGuy> Well, Its
morning for me
L92[14:41:36] <darsie> 1541
L93[14:42:09] <ThatOneGuy> 3:41 pm
L94[14:42:14] <ThatOneGuy> ?
L96[14:43:11] <ThatOneGuy> you good?
L97[14:43:20] <darsie> no
L98[14:43:25] <darsie> I'm evil.
L99[14:43:37] <ThatOneGuy> nice to meet
you, evil
L100[14:43:40] <darsie> .
L101[14:44:18] <Althego> beyond good and
evil
L102[14:44:25] <ThatOneGuy> well,
then
L103[14:44:31] <Althego> part 2 never came
despite the hype a few years ago
L104[14:44:38] <ThatOneGuy> whys is darsie
evil
L105[14:45:12] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L106[14:45:12] <LunchBot> You attempt to
re-create the Orion mission and synchronise it with the real-world
livestream. Things start to get ugly.
L107[14:45:26] <ThatOneGuy> ha
L108[14:45:55] <Althego> actually pretty
up to date mission
L109[14:46:45] <darsie> Because I'm not
good and evil is teh antonym to good.
L110[14:47:59] <ThatOneGuy> okay, temmie,
what do you do that is evil, because all of us here have commited
gencide of an alien race
L111[14:48:14] <ThatOneGuy> im preety sure
we are all evil
L112[14:49:11] <SporkWitch> that's a false
dichotomy, darsie. evil is not good, but not good is not
necessarily evil
L113[14:49:37] <ThatOneGuy> yeah, you
could be chaotic good :)
L114[14:50:18] <ThatOneGuy> oh hey
sporkwitch
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L117[14:52:34] <ThatOneGuy> I havent seen
FLHerne on lately, anyonlse has?
L118[14:52:51] <SporkWitch> was on a few
hours ago
L119[14:52:58] <ThatOneGuy> Dang
L120[14:53:12] <ThatOneGuy> Well, you see
him tell him I said Hi
L121[14:53:22] <FLHerne> I'm always on
:p
L122[14:53:30] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L123[14:53:32] <ThatOneGuy> sup
L124[14:54:08] <FLHerne> Moved my boat
today, Christmas dinner later, still bloody cold
L125[14:54:21] <FLHerne> you know,
December things
L126[14:54:46] <ThatOneGuy> Well, Wv is
getting cold here
L127[14:56:33] <ThatOneGuy> were are the
rest of yall partying?
L128[14:56:36] <FLHerne> November was
unseasonably warm
L129[14:56:52] <FLHerne> December...isn't,
so far :p
L130[14:56:53] <ThatOneGuy> We had a few
good weeks here and there
L131[14:57:05] <darsie> I didn't flush the
toilet.
L132[14:57:10] <FLHerne> UK here
L133[14:57:14] <FLHerne> darsie:
what
L134[14:57:23] <ThatOneGuy> WHO TF STARTS
A COVERSATION LIKE THAT
L135[14:57:24] <SporkWitch> it's
annoyingly 8° right now; give me winter, dammit
L136[14:57:29] <darsie> I didn't flush the
shit.
L137[14:57:30] <FLHerne> oh, evil
L138[14:57:39] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L139[14:57:46] *
SporkWitch washes darsie's mouth with soap
L140[14:57:53] <darsie> I didn't flush the
feces.
L141[14:58:01] <ThatOneGuy> sporkwitch:
okay , Gray
L142[14:58:16] <ThatOneGuy> woah
L143[14:58:28] <ThatOneGuy> gettin
personal :)
L144[15:00:31] <darsie> Because flatmates
don't wash the knives.
L145[15:01:04] <ThatOneGuy> how come the
lounge in blocked on the computer, but i can still acsess this chat
room
L146[15:01:24] <darsie> lounge?
L147[15:01:34] <darsie> This is IRC.
L148[15:02:08] <ThatOneGuy> My computer
says TheLounge in white and orange on the yop left
L149[15:02:18] <ThatOneGuy> *top* not
yop
L150[15:03:44] <ThatOneGuy> Nvrm i just
did some research
L151[15:03:55] <ThatOneGuy> forget my
question
L152[15:07:00] <ThatOneGuy>
sooooooooooooooo
L153[15:07:21] <ThatOneGuy> how has your
guys's weeks been
L154[15:08:47] <darsie> R-rated
L155[15:09:10] <ThatOneGuy> f*** this s***
im out
L156[15:09:34] <ThatOneGuy> sporkwitch?
how about you
L157[15:09:51] <SporkWitch> It's generally
considered rude to ping people for no reason
L158[15:11:56] <ThatOneGuy> my bad
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L165[17:42:58] *
raptop x_x
L166[17:49:49] <ThatOneGuy> 0_0
L167[18:08:41] <ThatOneGuy> well
L168[18:13:49] <FLHerne> hi again
L169[18:13:58] <FLHerne> I don't know what
that was about
L170[18:14:35] <raptop> Anyway, boosters
are boring. All hail the LV-909!
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L173[19:18:35] <Mat2ch> !mission
L174[19:18:35] <LunchBot> You drop an LV-N
Atomic Rocket Motor into Jool in an attempt to ignite it into a
second star. Oh well, these things happen.
L175[19:19:02] <Mat2ch> They do, they
do...
L176[19:19:27] <Althego> there was a video
about this
L177[19:20:14] <Althego> what was the
guy's name, made amazing ksp videos
L178[19:22:26] <Althego> nassault
L180[19:24:21] <Althego> even after all
these years these videos are still great
L182[19:32:00] <Althego> now make it for
duna
L183[19:32:21] <Althego> i pretty much
failed with every iteration of the electric prop airplane i tried
to make for duna
L184[19:32:22] <SporkWitch> darsie: you
see that speedrun i posted the other day? He used a helicopter for
his retrieval craft as well. Thought it was really smart and
efficient, given that thick atmosphere. Massive ΔV savings.
L185[19:32:23] <darsie> :)
L186[19:32:45] <Mat2ch> woah, 8 years ago
was that short film
L187[19:33:16] <Althego> one of my long
dreams was a foldable wing airplane for duna. that arrives in an
aeroshell and unpacks itself. and it simply cant fly because the
atmosphere is so uselss
L188[19:33:19] <Mat2ch> but lighting up
Jool as sun that close to Laythe would burn it up :D
L189[19:33:20] <darsie> SporkWitch:
no
L191[19:33:48] <Althego> Mat2ch: yes, and
all the others, like gravioli, or jeb, bob and bill, etc
L192[19:34:07] <Mat2ch> ravioli? :D
L193[19:34:07] <darsie> I flew with
gliders on Duna.
L194[19:34:27] <Althego> you know in ksp,
the negative gravioli detector
L195[19:34:53] <Althego> that is why not
gravity but gravioly
L196[19:34:54] <Althego> i
L197[19:41:35] <Mat2ch> but now I want
ravioli, even though I always have stomache ache afterwards
:D
L198[19:41:43] <Althego> hehe
L199[19:42:04] <raptop> Eat it with
lactase or something?
L200[19:42:05] <SporkWitch> mushroom
ravioli with a cream sauce sounds awesome right now
L201[19:42:37] <Mat2ch> raptop: it's about
the whole quality of that stuff when it comes from the can ;)
L202[19:42:48] <raptop> ah
L203[19:43:05] <SporkWitch> yeah, tinned
pasta is not exactly great heh
L204[19:44:49] <darsie> SporkWitch: Pretty
cool.
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L218[23:03:30] <Mat2ch> !mission
L219[23:03:30] <LunchBot> You attempt to
perform chemistry on your orbital elements. During your rescue
mission you find Tim Curry who escaped to space.
L220[23:17:41] <JVFoxy> so.. will KSP1 end
up going into the gravesite when KSP2 comes out? :\
L221[23:18:13] <raptop> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L222[23:18:28] <raptop> Certainly I expect
KSP2 to get a lot more talk, regardless of features
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L224[23:29:12] <transhumanist> whats the
difference between scale and rescale in the KSP code?
L225[23:35:12] <JVFoxy> raptop well given
how dead here and a few other places are the past long while, any
sort of talk would be nice..
L226[23:35:21] <Izaya> I, for one, will
probably still play KSP for at least a good few years after KSP2's
release
L227[23:35:30] <Izaya> KSP has a big mod
back catalog...
L228[23:35:41] <JVFoxy> lol.. so many
missions I never finished
L229[23:36:00] <transhumanist> seems from
what I read that neither of these can be used to scale an object, I
would like to scale a balloon by a huge number for a Venus
game
L230[23:36:04] <JVFoxy> well to be honest,
part of it was due to a lot of the updates happening and my being a
tad.. 'slow' in game
L231[23:36:45] <Izaya> Plus, gotta wait
till KSP2 is on sale at least
L232[23:36:45] <JVFoxy> transhumanist you
trying to scale mod a part in game?
L233[23:37:28] <JVFoxy> izaya I got sucked
into Space engineers and Empyrion.. although I hit a bit of a
mental wall when it comes to making 'BIG' ships. :\
L234[23:37:57] <transhumanist> JVFoxy: yes
that is the idea
L235[23:38:02] <Izaya> SE is endlessly
frustrating to me. Gave up playing it a while back.
L236[23:38:09] <Izaya> transhumanist: I
have a rescaled tank somewhere, give me a sec
L237[23:38:17] <transhumanist> the
KerbalBalloonsReinflated mode
L238[23:38:29] <JVFoxy> oh.. was going to
suggest tweekscale mod?
L239[23:38:44] <Izaya> oh that's a good
point
L240[23:39:17] <JVFoxy> Izaya I made a
pretty cool small craft in SE. It has a slight pelican feel to it
from the Halo franchise
L242[23:39:47] <Izaya> transhumanist:
rescaleFactor = 2.0 turned the 1.25m donut tank into a 2.5m
one
L243[23:40:00] <Izaya> that just changes
physical size though, not the attributes
L244[23:40:09] <transhumanist> so using
that scales the entire object completely?
L245[23:40:17] <transhumanist> ah right it
doesnt
L246[23:40:18] <Izaya> it scales the model
and attachment points
L247[23:40:22] <JVFoxy> at the moment, its
just a friend and I in coop. There'd been times I wish it was more
than just us though
L248[23:40:33] <transhumanist> what do you
mean by attributes
L249[23:40:42] <Izaya> mass, capacity,
etc
L250[23:42:00] <Izaya> JVFoxy: I ran a
server for a few months for some friends. The headache of that and
the whole "you can do mildly complicated things but no more
than this" really got grating
L251[23:42:32] <transhumanist>
https://bpa.st/ZCDQ << I do see the mass entry
which I can scale (it does not show units but not sure what the
rest of the stuff is
L252[23:44:27] <Izaya> The jump drive was
the worst one. I wanted to use a programmable block to automate it,
but the game doesn't let you do that. So I figured, "okay I'll
make a mod to remove that restriction". Turns out that they've
disabled reflection for the code that implements the jump drive.
The easiest way to get a jump drive that can be controlled by a
computer is to reimplement the whole system
L253[23:44:29] <Izaya> yourself. ._.
L254[23:44:34] <transhumanist> is this all
defined in a doc somewhere?
L255[23:45:14] <transhumanist> I mean each
entry or is it mod specific?
L256[23:45:43] <Izaya> if it's inside a
MODULE section it can be part of a mod, but PART nodes are
standard, as I understand it
L257[23:46:21] <Izaya> The wiki has a lot
of the part config files on it for reference, but I'm not sure if
there's actual docs, sorry.
L258[23:47:39] <transhumanist> when it
says minScale and Maxscale does that mean this is the scale range
that is set to work with it with the scale command ? do you
know?
L259[23:48:00] <Izaya> I don't know about
ModuleKerBalloon, sorry
L260[23:48:21] <transhumanist> its too bad
their hithub doesnt allow posting of questions
L261[23:48:27] <transhumanist>
github*
L262[23:50:08] <JVFoxy> Izaya
'complicated' things in what regards? (which game again?)
L263[23:50:16] <Izaya> SE
L264[23:50:48] <Izaya> it feels like there
are specific ways you're meant to play and going off the rails is
somewhere between poorly supported and actively prevented
L265[23:50:49] <JVFoxy> I've a base on an
ice-roid.. just on the very edge of the gravity well.. lol
L266[23:51:57] <JVFoxy> well ya there was
a few things I noticed couldn't really do.. more to do with hinges
going ape-crazy, then ships with multiple grids not flying like
they should
L267[23:52:25] <JVFoxy> my limit is more
to do with parts variety...