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L1[00:00:02] <SporkWitch> i would definitely say i'm not a skiddie; traditionally, skiddies can barely even modify scripts they're handed, and even then rarely have a clue what 99% of it is actually doing. I'm sufficiently competent that if someone tells me what it's SUPPOSED to do, plus what it's ACTUALLY doing, I'm usually at least able to pick out the flaws, if not outright offer corrections, sometimes even in
L2[00:00:33] <Izaya> I'm in the depressing situation where I'm most productive in bash
L3[00:00:41] <SporkWitch> languages i've never interacted with (such as one customer I had at my last job, and me with zero LUA experience, but I went out of scope and took a look anyway, because hey, interesting problem and ensuring a good customre experience)
L4[00:01:09] <Izaya> Lua is super simple to pick up unless it's abusing metatables
L5[00:01:23] <Izaya> very pleasant
L6[00:01:36] <SporkWitch> honestly, i've been using python for my shell scripting for years; it's REALLY good for anything but the absolute most simplistic stuff (e.g. having a generic config files across multiple distros, so checking which distro you're on to specify the correct powerline path)
L7[00:01:51] <SporkWitch> yeah, i've just never touched it, except for that one time lol
L8[00:02:38] <SporkWitch> another time, in a CTF, I managed to solve one of the prolog challenges with an injection exploit, despite having never touched prolog before (heck, I'm not even sure if i'd heard of it prior lol)
L9[00:03:00] <Izaya> FUN SPACE FACT
L10[00:03:33] <Izaya> for the Buran orbiter, they had a university create an OS and SDK suited to their needs
L11[00:03:37] <Izaya> they called it PROLOGUE
L12[00:03:46] <SporkWitch> interesting
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L14[00:03:58] <Izaya> the CIA got wind of this and got up the french for selling them Prolog
L15[00:04:03] <SporkWitch> i was referring to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog
L16[00:04:04] <Izaya> (which they hadn't)
L17[00:04:13] <Izaya> :D
L18[00:05:38] <SporkWitch> i mean, given their close CCP ties, it's not like they'd have bothered buying it anyway, they'd just get the spec from the third party these idiotic companies contract in china to do everything, and then cry when identical products are released at half the price, since they don't have to recoup R&D since they just steal it
L19[00:06:13] <SporkWitch> does remind me of the hilarity of trying to restrict PGP under the laws relating to international arms trades and embargoes lol
L20[00:07:28] <Izaya> added a check to make sure the processor is powered on before losing the election
L21[00:07:43] <SporkWitch> though my memory could be fuzzy; i was young back then, and i'm not sure when the US sold _everything_ out to the CCP in the delusional belief that doing all of their R&D for themthen handing them the blueprints would somehow make them NOT want to destroy and dominate the rest of the world...
L22[00:07:56] <SporkWitch> hehe, probably a good idea lol
L23[00:08:12] <Izaya> it'd be funny if a processor was shut down and the computer that should be running the maneuver node decides not to because "they'll handle it" and then nothing happens when it gets to the node
L24[00:08:17] <Izaya> but that's a quickload I can avoid
L25[00:32:37] <Izaya> I should write a script to have spacecraft lower their Pe to 22km right above the KSC, so I can have them deorbit in the background rather than having to babysit them for 20 minutes while they land
L26[00:33:32] <umaxtu> or train a cat to do it
L27[00:33:52] <Izaya> if I had a cat, I'd give that a go
L28[00:33:57] <Izaya> :<
L29[00:34:12] <SporkWitch> orbit doesn't actually degrade if it's out of physics range, and I think once Pe goes below a certain point it just gets yeeted
L30[00:34:34] <Izaya> yup, but if you have Stage Recovery and enough parachutes/fuel, it will simulate a landing
L31[00:34:43] * Izaya taps forehead
L32[00:34:53] <SporkWitch> ah; i never got around to figuring out how that works or behaves
L33[00:35:00] <Izaya> that way I could recover these tourists without actually needing to look at it
L34[00:35:58] <Izaya> tl;dr once a vessel/stage drops below the altitude KSP would destroy it, SR will check if it has enough parachutes and/or thrust and fuel to do a soft landing, and do a recovery
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L49[02:51:54] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/0b3d.jpg
L50[02:52:58] <raptop> Pondering the craters?
L51[02:53:10] <Izaya> indeed
L52[02:53:16] <Izaya> I think I want my next Mun base to be in a crater
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L54[03:01:53] <Izaya> Though in my game, the farside canyons have very high ore concentration...
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L61[05:38:57] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/9cdb.jpg
L62[05:52:11] <Althego> nice station
L63[05:52:15] <Althego> are those rings rotating?
L64[06:03:01] <Izaya> yup
L65[06:03:04] <Izaya> counter-rotating, even
L66[06:04:40] <Izaya> top ring is actually the main payload of the nuclear shuttle, as seen on the right here https://shadowkat.net/tmp/cb9d.jpg
L67[06:04:55] <Izaya> 8 kerbals to and from the mun in style
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L98[14:59:46] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgzzjpqLeb4
L99[15:11:10] <umaxtu> no boom
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L102[15:22:04] <lordcirth> Izaya, shiny! What graphics mods?
L103[15:44:32] <SporkWitch> ooof, 1k to completely redo my cooling loop...
L104[15:44:57] <umaxtu> your pc?
L105[15:45:01] <SporkWitch> yeah
L106[15:46:00] <SporkWitch> got a leak where the return from the radiator is. it's minor, and it's positioned in a way no components are at risk, but it's still a problem, and it's resulted in bubbles in the loop that i just can't get rid of, after months of trying. put my idle temp from 45C to 60-70, and i'm breaking 80 under load
L107[15:46:30] <Althego> 80 is still usable
L108[15:46:34] <Althego> not ideal though
L109[15:47:28] <SporkWitch> also have a bit of buildup in the CPU block, so basically saying screw it and i'm replacing everything. new CPU block, adding a GPU block, larger and stronger pump/res (which should hopefully make it easier to work air out and not accidentally ingest air; the current pump/res has the return tube close enough to the intake that sometimes it actually sucks air right back into the loop, rather than
L110[15:47:30] <Althego> and this is why i will not have water in my next pc. it is honestly at the point where next gen hw almost requires it, but for the simplicity and easier maintenance i can still go with air
L111[15:47:34] <SporkWitch> ending up at the top of the res where it can be bled off
L112[15:49:02] <SporkWitch> replacing the radiator with a 480 (have a 240 now), and then of course need some extra fans for the larger radiator, splitters for the fan power just in case, and of course soft tubing and fittings
L113[15:51:26] <SporkWitch> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08P3Z4KTZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_13?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
L114[15:51:32] <SporkWitch> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08F3134SW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_12?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
L115[15:51:37] <SporkWitch> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NFDY2WB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?smid=A3UTX2N9QZM4AA&psc=1
L116[15:51:42] <SporkWitch> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00099E0O4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
L117[15:51:49] <SporkWitch> it adds up fast lol
L118[15:52:17] <SporkWitch> i was going to do separate loops for CPU and GPU, but then i saw how fast the price was going up heh. might do it later, depending on the thermals once this is all set up
L119[15:58:44] <umaxtu> you should replicate LTT's peltier monstrosity
L120[15:59:15] <SporkWitch> i was actually doing some googling yesterday to see if there'd been any improvements with peltiers for PC cooling lol
L121[15:59:35] <SporkWitch> conclusion: no, still not worthwhile and way too much trouble
L122[16:00:23] <SporkWitch> i'm not a huge LTT fan, though. He does okay, but he has a lot of bad takes too, and he's got way too much animosity to any cooling solution that isn't air
L123[16:00:58] <SporkWitch> honestly this water cooling setup has been great overall, the main mistake was going with hard tubing for my first time doing it; i'm correcting that mistake by going with soft tubing now
L124[16:01:41] <umaxtu> you gonna dye it/
L125[16:01:42] <umaxtu> ?
L126[16:02:02] <SporkWitch> i have some UV dye that i got for the existing setup; plenty left because it goes a long way
L127[16:02:26] <SporkWitch> not going to do it right now, but i do need to replace the existing UV lights with a good UV cold cathode
L128[16:02:41] <SporkWitch> the ones i have now aren't that great and put out way more visible purple and not a whole lot of UV
L129[16:02:54] <SporkWitch> the tubing does say it's resistant to UV and safe to use
L130[16:05:13] <SporkWitch> umaxtu: that's the current build https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/812736295814168623/971466914138292244/PXL_20210518_155349194.MP.jpg?width=512&height=910
L131[16:05:34] <SporkWitch> Sadly, the fluid doesn't actually glow that brightly, because those UV LEDs are really poopy
L132[16:05:51] <umaxtu> nice!
L133[16:06:04] <SporkWitch> actually that pic is a little out of date, as that's from when I was still using the GTX1060; it's got an RTX3080 now
L134[16:06:28] <SporkWitch> i probably don't NEED the water block on it, but its fans are REALLY loud lol
L135[16:06:46] <SporkWitch> like to the point of competing with the engines in KSP at my normal volume level lol
L136[16:07:43] <SporkWitch> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/812736295814168623/971466866432282624/PXL_20211024_001218263.jpg?width=960&height=540
L137[16:10:21] <SporkWitch> in any case, so much for putting most of this check into savings heh. the existing setup is making me sufficiently nervous to just do it, though
L138[16:30:38] <Althego> zombanwa
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L142[17:18:31] <LunchBot> Pączki and coffee.
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L146[17:33:49] <SporkWitch> decided to go with this pump instead, since it's PWM, so I don't need to tilt the case and get a screwdriver to adjust the pump speed. Combine with a flow meter with 3-pin output, and the mobo should be able to control the pump speed to achieve desired flow based on temps. the water block has a temp sensor, and i'm adding an in-line sensor that I'm thinking i'll put either at the radiator output
L147[17:33:57] <SporkWitch> or the reservoir input https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B082NLHQLP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&psc=1
L148[17:34:35] <SporkWitch> bumps the total up to 1089, but should be an overall good setup and more easily managed (not least because of the soft tubing to make it easier to work bubbles out)
L149[17:42:59] <SporkWitch> and of course, because of the urgency my paycheck is late lol
L150[17:43:12] <SporkWitch> (payday's officially friday, but it had been coming in consistently by wednesday at noon lol)
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L160[19:44:23] <SporkWitch> yeesh, nearly 1300 after shipping and taxes, and teh GPU block won't be here until between november 2nd and 25th! >_<
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