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L5[00:46:14] <funkenstein> ;mission
L6[00:46:14] <LunchBot> You add another
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regulars on #KSPOfficial. You feel the warp overtake you. It is a
good pain.
L7[00:48:29] <funkenstein> ;mission add You
realise Kerbals are DENSE.
L8[00:48:29] <LunchBot> Added mission: You
realise Kerbals are DENSE.
L9[00:48:55] <funkenstein> Metaphorically as
well as literally.
L10[00:53:10] <raptop> It's all fun and
games until you realize that kerbals cast neutrino shadows
L11[00:53:42] <FLHerne> ;outcome add After
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moves for every planetary body.
L12[00:53:43] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
After a few hours of button-mashing, you invent the perfect Kerbal
dance moves for every planetary body.
L13[00:54:17] <FLHerne> they can't be all
that dense if they float
L14[00:54:56] <SporkWitch> you forget how
dense kerbin water is
L15[00:55:09] <SporkWitch> 5 tonne capsule
bouncing like it's a trampoline and never stopping
L16[00:55:50] <FLHerne> most parts float
about as deeply as you'd expect in water
L17[00:56:14] <FLHerne> so if Kerbals and
water are usually dense, so is everything else, and then I'm not
sure that means anything :p
L18[00:56:26] <SporkWitch> float yes, but
they BOUNCE
L19[00:56:35] <FLHerne> real large objects
in water bob around quite a bit
L20[00:56:50] <SporkWitch> they don't get
launched back into the air, though lol
L21[00:56:58] <SporkWitch> i'll take a clip
sometimes, it's kind of nutty
L22[00:57:00] <FLHerne> my 5-ton home
bounces around pretty well for a minute or so if some idiot in a
RIB ignores the speed limit
L23[00:57:20] <FLHerne> even after the
actual wake has passed
L24[00:57:32] <FLHerne> lots of energy,
relatively little damping
L26[01:08:05] <FLHerne> they're designed
with a bow shape to make sure they fully submerge and level out
underwater so that doesn't happen
L27[01:08:21] <SporkWitch> FLHerne: now
repeat that first bounce for more than 15 minutes without losing
height
L28[01:08:53] <FLHerne> ok, yeah, there
should be *some* damping
L29[01:09:08] <FLHerne> I've never seen
that happen though
L30[01:09:19] <FLHerne> and I've dropped
quite a few craft in the oceans :p
L31[01:10:01] <Izaya> Anyone know a mod
that contains a 0.625m hub/node? The Tantares size 0.5 ones need a
node cap for each side if you want to put a Jr port on them
L32[01:12:18] <SporkWitch> i'm pretty sure
it's one of the mods that affects the water to give it slight
waves, and because of KSP's wonky physics (excluding orbital
mechanics) it just keeps launching it, whereas, as you say, it
SHOULD just bob lightly
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L39[01:50:12] <Tank2333> ;mission
L40[01:50:13] <LunchBot> After rigorous
observations, you discover what Kerbals really eat. Your ship
dubsteps itself to destruction.
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L42[02:12:00] <raptop> !mission
L43[02:12:01] <LunchBot> You build a micro
surfboard so you can surf the microwaves. You're barred from
further flights due to government legislation imposed by a
competing space program.
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L78[13:19:55] <funkenstein> Izaya I always
love your round rockets, and this little bol is no
exception./
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L82[14:09:09] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
Kmath rises up and kills all the Kerbals.
L83[14:09:09] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Kmath rises up and kills all the Kerbals.
L84[14:09:27] *
raptop presses F to pay respects to Kmath
L85[14:09:49] <raptop> (...and Kountown.
and Deddly's mod/log bot. And...)
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L88[14:11:27] <dnsmcbr> 👀
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L99[17:28:22] <raptop> !outcome add
Unfortuantely, the KAL-1000 can't do that for Dave Kerman.
L100[17:28:22] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Unfortuantely, the KAL-1000 can't do that for Dave Kerman.
L101[17:32:17] <Mat2ch> !mission
L102[17:32:17] <LunchBot> You fill out
paperwork equal to the GLOW of your rocket. You have read so many
contract descriptions that you forget basic sentence structure,
needless to say, this is where you come in.
L103[17:35:11] <raptop> Absurd, yet
fitting
L104[17:35:53] <Mat2ch> is broken sentence
my structure it from reading
L105[17:37:20] <Mat2ch> Does "Gonna
Make You Sweat" still count as 80s music? Apparently it was
recorded 1989, but released in 1990...
L106[17:40:46] <SporkWitch> decade-based
genres tend to be blurry because you have overlap at the beginning
and end
L107[17:45:32] <Mat2ch> In my quest to
build the ultimate 80s music collection I stumbled upon Steel
Panther and no, I can't post anything from them here. :D
L108[17:46:49] <SporkWitch> lol
L109[17:50:22] <packbart> They're living
The Spinal Tap dream
L110[17:52:03] <Mat2ch> But when was the
last time you heard "Freeze Frame"? Tell me!
L111[17:52:28] <packbart> in some weird
"funny videos" show on TV
L112[17:52:53] <Mat2ch> ouch.
L113[17:56:32] <Althego> in the age of the
internet those shows are not necessary anymore
L114[17:56:47] <Althego> or rather they
never were, but there are more ways
L115[17:58:31] <Mat2ch> I think I put
"Don't Leave Me This Way" into the mix.
L116[17:58:37] <Mat2ch> even though it is
late 70s.
L117[17:58:45] <SporkWitch> America's
Funniest Home Videos was a cultural touchstone for decades. MANY
families for whom that was part of the nightly ritual. For my own
family, it was the MASH rerun, then the new episode of Star Trek
TNG
L118[17:59:22] <Althego> way better
choice
L119[17:59:35] <SporkWitch> we watched
AFHV too lol
L120[17:59:39] <Mat2ch> TNG was a really
good choice
L121[17:59:52] <Mat2ch> I only watched the
re-runs back then :/
L122[18:00:12] <SporkWitch> so was MASH,
though after getting the DVD set, I can't watch it any other way
now. The DVDs came with two audio tracks: the one from tv, and one
that's the same but with the laugh track removed. SOOOO much darker
and more powerful without the laugh track
L123[18:01:09] <Mat2ch> I forgot about
those fake laugh tracks /o\
L124[18:01:40] <Mat2ch> Married with
children had them... and then in the last episode they showed the
studio and there were real people laughing...
L125[18:01:51] <SporkWitch> the sign of a
bad comedy is the need for them. the sign of a great comedy is when
it's good in spite of them.
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L128[18:02:10] <SporkWitch> sure, but even
then there's usually an indicator light that tells them TO laugh
lol
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L132[19:24:11] <funkenstein> mat2ch I
istened to freeze frame a day or two ago becauseI like it lol
L133[19:27:37] <funkenstein>
;mission
L134[19:27:37] <LunchBot> You build a ship
for the stated purpose of outrunning its own mass. Dinosaur
invasion beginns.
L135[19:27:56] <SporkWitch> ;outcome fixup
s/beginn/begin/
L136[19:27:57] <LunchBot> New text is:
Dinosaur invasion begins.
L137[19:28:01] <Althego> probably
outrunning its own mass is not possible
L138[19:28:02] <funkenstein> ;outcome
fixup s/beginns/begins/
L139[19:28:03] <LunchBot> No
recently-mentioned outcome found matching
"beginns".
L140[19:28:06] <funkenstein> oh
L141[19:28:12] <SporkWitch> i'm faster
than you :P
L142[19:28:21] <funkenstein> hey, I can't
type
L143[19:28:33] <Althego> but i remember
some youtube video where they discussed quantum chesire cat
phenomenon, where the mass moved separately from the charge
L144[19:28:36] <Althego> or was it
spin?
L145[19:28:36] <funkenstein> I hunt and
peck in a fancy way
L146[19:28:56] <SporkWitch> been a while
since i kept on weird physics stuff, so couldn't say
L147[19:29:09] <SporkWitch> a lot of it
seems to use "what the bleep" as a real source lol
L149[19:34:05] <funkenstein>
;mission
L150[19:34:05] <LunchBot> You try to build
a space shuttle. You are executed for treason. There are NO
FAILURES in the People's Glorious Space Program!
L151[19:34:49] <funkenstein> I can't
decide whether the middle bit is connected to the outcome or the
mission
L152[19:35:08] <funkenstein>
;mission
L153[19:35:08] <LunchBot> You make a very
bad pun. You give up.
L154[19:35:17] <Althego> hehe
L155[19:35:54] <SporkWitch> i suspect it's
part of the outcome. Killing people for acknowleding, rather than
burying, is a very commie thing to do, historically, and commies
LOVE calling themselves "the People's" whatever.
L156[19:35:58] <Izaya> funkenstein:
tantares parts are wonderful for building round rockets :3
L157[19:36:13] <SporkWitch> *acknowledging
rather than burying failures
L158[19:36:21] <funkenstein> Thnks
L159[19:36:25] <Izaya> though I'm looking
forward to unlocking the really big Kerbal Atomics/CryoTanks tanks,
so I can have a giant sphere with a NTR on one end and a docking
port on the other
L160[19:36:53] <packbart> !mission
L161[19:36:53] <LunchBot> You design and
build a complete space program using nothing but cans of Spam. You
increase the orbital debris count tenfold.
L162[19:37:06] <Althego> as expected
L163[19:37:10] <packbart> Spam! In!
Spaaaace!
L164[19:37:14] <Izaya> You do, however,
solve world hunger for non-vegetarians
L165[19:37:18] <funkenstein> Spamce
L166[19:37:39] <SporkWitch> the round
tanks in MKS/KSPI are definitely nice, and have the added benefit
of logistics support, so you can transfer things between nearby
vehicles (this is the preferred method of initially loading a craft
constructed using the orbital shipyards, since it spawns it nearby,
not docked, so you'd need to use a tug to dock and transfer
normally, if you didn't have a tank that supports MKS
logistics)
L167[19:37:46] <funkenstein> Also, I love
meat but cannot stand spam.
L168[19:37:58] <SporkWitch> many would
debate whether spam is meat lol
L169[19:38:21] <Pinkbeast> Makes sense, I
like to read but only if the letters aren't in a random smooshed-up
order
L170[19:38:51] <funkenstein> I think it
could be classified as "organic meat-type product"
L171[19:38:56] <SporkWitch> Izaya: you
can't fix hunger for vegetarians and vegans, they're ALWAYS hungry,
because by definition they don't eat right
L172[19:39:51] <funkenstein> Also it's not
as if plants aren't ALSO living and in fact alive to some degree
when you eat then.
L173[19:39:56] <funkenstein> them*
L175[19:40:01] <Althego> "that's my
secret, i'm always hungry" :)
L176[19:40:30] <Izaya> I, for one, welcome
the emergence of acceptable plant-based imitations of meat
L177[19:40:32] <funkenstein> Furthermore
milk doesn't require hurting the cow, so why vegans why
L178[19:40:52] <SporkWitch> just the
opposite, NOT milking the dairy cow actively harms the cow
lol
L179[19:40:58] <funkenstein> I welcome
cricket-based protein powder, but my partner finds it foul.
L180[19:41:05] <Althego> you still need to
impregnate it, and then slaughter the offspring
L181[19:41:06] <funkenstein>
precisely
L182[19:41:09] <SporkWitch> because it
tastes nasty lol
L183[19:41:24] <funkenstein> Cow tiddy
hurts if ya don't milk it.
L184[19:41:37] <Althego> isnt that the
same for humans?
L185[19:41:40] <funkenstein> yep
L186[19:41:42] <SporkWitch> and then after
you slaughter the offspring, you BUTCHER the offspring, and eat it
and make leather goods from it.
L187[19:41:54] <funkenstein> Milk your
cowgirls, they need it
L188[19:41:55] <funkenstein> lol
L189[19:42:46] <funkenstein> sldo you mske
the offspring walk across a hard line of shadow, which they
hate
L190[19:43:03] <Mat2ch> funkenstein: nice!
Any more suggestions? ;)
L191[19:43:38] <funkenstein> mat2ch To
which??
L192[19:44:13] <Mat2ch> funkenstein: Songs
from that time ;)
L193[19:44:15] <SporkWitch> most places
the methods are actually quite humane. They're careful to keep the
still-living ones isolated, and to make the deaths fast and
painless. The problems crop up when you're talking about Halal
slaughter, which REQUIRES incredibly inhumane methods of killing.
Literally they hang it upside down and slit the throat, letting it
bleed out while still alive and as aware as a cow can be.
L194[19:44:44] <FLHerne> ``
L195[19:44:57] <SporkWitch> (never mind
that the certifying agencies for Halal meat have repeatedly been
found to be funneling the money they charge for certification to
terror groups)
L196[19:47:00] <funkenstein> Dying in your
arms tonight, Levon by elton john, Twilight zone by golden earring,
movig in stereo by the cars, Lunatic fring by red rider, poison by
bel biv devoe
L197[19:48:36] <funkenstein> Get tothat by
funkadelic, literally anything by giorgio moroder, putting out fire
by david bowie
L199[19:49:03] <funkenstein>
(mat2ch)
L200[19:49:27] <Althego> hehe
L201[19:52:43] <Mat2ch> funkenstein:
ohhhhh, thanks!
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L204[20:05:48] <Mat2ch> funkenstein: I've
never heard Twilight Zone before, but I love it!
L205[20:25:30] <Izaya> kOS makes me feel
dumb
L206[20:26:35] <Mat2ch> Don't use it. It's
a weird programming concept. Use the interface and write a real
script with a loop you control
L207[20:26:54] <Izaya> ?.?
L208[20:28:04] <Mat2ch> kRPC
L209[20:28:50] <Izaya> oh
L210[20:29:01] <Izaya> looked into that,
doesn't support current Lua, went back to kOS
L211[20:29:35] <Izaya> the language
doesn't matter either way though, the problem is that I'm terrible
at maths
L212[20:31:30] <Mat2ch> hehe
L213[20:32:12] <Izaya> trying to write a
function to predict the distance to a landing site at an arbitrary
point in the future and I'm getting stuck in the weeds of reference
frames
L214[20:38:47] <Mat2ch> The future is
maybe too much future
L215[20:42:35] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
The future is the future now.
L216[20:42:35] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
The future is the future now.
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L220[21:08:44] <Izaya> screw maths, I'm
brute-forcing it with a maneuver node and trajectories
L221[21:33:37] <funkenstein> ;mission add
You screw maths, and brute-force it with a maneuver node and
trajectories.
L222[21:33:37] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You screw maths, and brute-force it with a maneuver node and
trajectories.
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L224[21:53:57] <Izaya> just about got my
suicide burn setup going though :D
L225[21:56:07] <Izaya> got within 500m of
my planned landing site, too
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L229[22:17:22] <Pinkbeast> Izaya: I
fine-tuned mine which turns out to mean given the heavy TWR on
Orion-powered landers I just get to spend more time going "oh
Kerb light the engines off it's too late aaargh"
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L231[22:38:20] <FLHerne> ;outcome add It’s
ludicrous nonsense. It’s not even a solution to the stated problem.
It’s just a bigger and grander version of the original problem,
running in parallel.
L232[22:38:20] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
It’s ludicrous nonsense. It’s not even a solution to the stated
problem. It’s just a bigger and grander version of the original
problem, running in parallel.
L233[22:38:45] <FLHerne> [credit to Shamus
Young, RIP :-(]
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