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L4[00:56:17] <JVFoxy> weee
L5[00:57:36] <JVFoxy> so managed to recover
sci-points from that mun station. But now left wondering what to
do... I still have flying crew reports down near south pole of the
Mun.. I did consider a rover thing. But would it be easier to just
'hover-fly' it?
L6[00:58:41] <SporkWitch> wheels are sketchy
and get sketchier the lower the gravity or more uneven the terrain.
I don't trust them, as a general rule, unless it's something like
Bon Voyage driving them for me out of physics range.
L7[00:59:10] <SporkWitch> Mun's higher
gravity definitely makes a flyer more difficult than Minmus, but if
you're operating it yourself, probably worth it.
L8[01:05:11] <JVFoxy> I get lower gravity,
gotta drive slower, but the mun's body itself is a lot smaller. I
guess I just wonder how long it takes to go from the equator to any
distance
L9[01:05:52] <SporkWitch> in my experience,
anything much over 10m/s in munar gravity is unsafe. Higher gravity
you can get away with more.
L10[01:06:20] <SporkWitch> One thing I
really wish is that there was something to use RCS to keep you held
to the ground automatically, like in Armageddon
L11[01:06:45] <JVFoxy> mun station itself
is at a pretty high orbit. Technically I could lower it down, but I
would need to send a fuel ship over. A lower orbit would mean less
DV to burn to an orbit, but if its not an equatorial, getting a
plane match is a hassle.
L12[01:06:47] <SporkWitch> it's really an
amazing oversight for something so cool AND functional to be
missing.
L13[01:07:40] <SporkWitch> yeah, I tend to
do my kerbin stations just outside the high orbit line, around
260km, but for other bodies I do it nice and low to minimize the
cost of reaching it from the surface.
L14[01:07:43] <JVFoxy> well... could use
thrusters on a separate throttle, but then you constantly using
fuel
L15[01:08:03] <SporkWitch> there's ways to
do it, yeah, just none that are really good, especially since you
also need to manage your orientation manually
L16[01:08:10] <JVFoxy> funny you should say
260.. currently the station I have is just below there
L17[01:08:34] <JVFoxy> I could do a lunar
hopper of some sort..
L18[01:08:46] <SporkWitch> i do the kerbin
one at high orbit because it's not a big difference in getting to
it in the grand scheme, but it's a higher science multiplier for
labs and such
L19[01:09:13] <JVFoxy> I would wanna setup
a base with a fuel station first though. The first landing I did,
the surface was pretty flat, but its small area
L20[01:10:01] <JVFoxy> I thought I ended up
close to that big crater.. but ended up miles off
L21[01:10:01] <SporkWitch> i'm trying to
decide what to do next myself. I finished my kerbin shipyard, but
I'm stuck deciding what to do next for some more science before
setting up the minmus colony, or if i should just get started on
the colony
L22[01:10:21] <JVFoxy> you don vanilla or
with mods?
L23[01:10:46] <SporkWitch> HEAVILY modded.
KSPI and some others to compliment it, plus the usual graphcis
enhancements and QoL.
L24[01:11:12] <SporkWitch> think my
modcount is like 105 or so right now lol
L25[01:11:30] <JVFoxy> oof
L26[01:11:35] <JVFoxy> I would'nt mind
clouds...
L27[01:11:43] <JVFoxy> I am considering a
lifesupport mod
L28[01:11:53] <SporkWitch> even loading
from a ridiculously fast SSD and a Ryzen 9 3950x, it takes about 5
minutes to get to the main menu lol
L29[01:12:04] <JVFoxy> there was that
ground science pack I had been eyeing, waiting for the right
time
L30[01:12:19] <SporkWitch> sorry, according
to ckan i have 141, though some of those are config files for some
of the mods
L31[01:12:42] <JVFoxy> ya I sorta neglected
ckan..
L32[01:13:02] <SporkWitch> just too much
headache to manage mods without a manager for it
L33[01:13:11] <JVFoxy> I mostly vanilla
till I got back into my groove
L34[01:13:46] <JVFoxy> I took a look at the
alarmclock thing for transfer windows.. ugh. Makes me pine for the
mod'd version
L35[01:13:51] <JVFoxy> I miss the
graph
L36[01:14:29] <JVFoxy> if I mod though,
it'll be another game in itself... stream maybe
L37[01:14:31] <JVFoxy> or record
L38[01:14:43] <JVFoxy> you ever looked at
RP0?
L39[01:15:18] <SporkWitch> dpesm
L40[01:15:24] <SporkWitch> don't recognize
that one
L41[01:16:52] <JVFoxy> let me try to find
the thing... its a change up on the research tree..
L42[01:17:34] <JVFoxy> sorry realistic
progression one..
L43[01:18:23] <SporkWitch> oh, is that the
one that moves the probes before the manned capsules?
L44[01:18:29] <JVFoxy> ya
L45[01:18:32] <JVFoxy> probes before
crew
L46[01:18:52] <SporkWitch> i considered it,
but didn't seem worth it, and running Interstellar, the real
progression is well beyond merely probe vs person
L47[01:18:57] <JVFoxy> they tout it more
based on how research was historically done in the past
L48[01:19:21] <SporkWitch> yeah, i think
the only reason that isn't the stock way is because i don't think
probes were even a thing when i first got in very early on
lol
L49[01:19:39] <JVFoxy> I got into KSP back
when it was 0.18
L50[01:19:57] <JVFoxy> mind you, they still
don't have sounding rockets ;)
L51[01:20:27] <SporkWitch> not famliiar
with those, but i've heard of sounding and it scares me... lol (DO
NOT GOOGLE IT)
L52[01:21:33] <JVFoxy> if it helps, from
wiki: A sounding rocket or rocketsonde, sometimes called a research
rocket or a suborbital rocket, is an instrument-carrying rocket
designed to take measurements and perform scientific experiments
during its sub-orbital flight.
L53[01:22:10] <SporkWitch> weird use of the
term sounding, then; usually sounding is used i nthe context of
SONAR
L54[01:22:19] <JVFoxy> think of it as a
tiny version of a rocket, sometimes can be mistaken for a large
weapon based missile
L55[01:23:04] <JVFoxy> a place in
Churchill, up here in Canada, they launched these rockets all the
time as part of the Aurora lights research
L56[01:24:29] <JVFoxy> basically, they
launch up, and just report back what their science instruments
pickup during the flight. There are also sounding fireworks.
Basically a little rocket that whistles back as it flies.
L57[01:24:42] <SporkWitch> gotcha
L58[01:24:49] <SporkWitch> Launch stream
just went live
L59[01:25:06] <SporkWitch> sorry, mission
control audio, probably; my phone beeped, but the main stream isn't
up yet
L60[01:25:42] <JVFoxy> or at least... from
what I remember ages ago. Some packages said they would 'sound
back'? shrug..
L61[01:25:57] <JVFoxy> oh.. what's
launch'n?
L62[01:26:09] <SporkWitch> starlink, but
night launch might be pretty
L63[01:26:53] <JVFoxy> oh
L64[01:30:03] <SporkWitch> hyped right now.
got a job offer from a company i'm excited for. 6 figures plus
stock. Waiting to hear back from one other, but unless it's
significantly more, i kind of think i'm going with this one since
the name will help me more in the long run
L65[01:31:15] <JVFoxy> ah cool
L66[01:31:21] <JVFoxy> what job if i can
sk?
L67[01:31:24] <JVFoxy> *ask
L68[01:31:39] <SporkWitch> it's a technical
support role in a security software company
L69[01:33:44] <JVFoxy> ah
L70[01:34:01] <JVFoxy> friend used to do
software security and anti virus stuff
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L75[01:47:54] <SporkWitch> it's fun stuff,
and that's why even though it's a support role I'm really leaning
towards this one even if the other gives me a similar offer. It'll
help me get back in the direction I want and out of support.
L76[01:49:12] <JVFoxy> ah
L77[01:50:03] <SporkWitch> still want to
hear the offer or hear them turn me down, though; who knows, maybe
they'll make a ridiculous offer i can't turn down lol
L78[01:51:20] <SporkWitch> definitely
excited though, and looking forward to putting in my notice,
because while my direct boss has always done right by me, the
company as a whole has NOT treated me well
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L112[10:11:04] <Guest01538> hi
L113[10:11:23] <FLHerne> Guest01538:
welcome :-)
L114[10:11:28] <Guest01538> thanks
L115[10:12:59] <FLHerne> it's generally
pretty quiet in here, especially this time of day, but we do answer
KSP questions
L116[10:13:38] <FLHerne> otherwise it's
chat about space stuff or spam LunchBot
L117[10:16:56] <Mat2ch> sooooo, many
static fires lately
L118[10:17:19] <Mat2ch> I bet we will see
more today
L119[10:17:42] <Mat2ch> I wonder if SpaceX
will do a full 33 engine static fire.
L120[10:18:07] <FLHerne> You'd think
so
L121[10:18:17] <Althego> i think they have
to
L122[10:18:34] <FLHerne> hopefully without
junk all over the pad this time
L123[10:18:41] <Althego> hard to start up
those engines, and 33 of them at the same time, you have to test
that
L124[10:19:36] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: The pad
will be cleared by then. :D
L125[10:19:43] <Mat2ch> also the will need
the water deluge system
L126[10:19:50] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: ...one
way or the other?
L127[10:19:58] <Althego> hehe
L128[10:20:00] <Mat2ch> Everything will be
blown away ;)
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L146[15:28:42] <raptop> !mission
L147[15:28:42] <LunchBot> UmbralRaptor
explodes, emitting all kinds of dinosaur DNA. You launch at night
and cannot locate the Sun. Unfortunately, you can locate the
ground.
L148[15:28:57] <Althego> lol
L149[15:29:06] <Althego> but how is
theexplosion am ission
L150[15:29:11] <raptop> Apparently I
messed with the launch time?
L151[15:29:28] <raptop> Also I have no
idea why that's a mission (I didn't add it)
L152[15:29:59] <Pinkbeast> Is there an
!blame or similar for finding out who added what?
L153[15:30:34] <raptop> Not really, given
what the mission database has gone through
L154[15:30:46] <raptop> Unless you have
5-10 year old logs?
L155[15:31:05] <Pinkbeast> Damn it. The
outcome feels like I wrote it and I wanted to know if I did
:-)
L156[15:31:41] <Pinkbeast> Oh - asked on
r/kerbalacademy, going to ask on the forums, but I am wondering how
large a vehicle (dimensions not partcount) it's practical to
construct
L157[15:50:47] <Deddly> !mission
L158[15:50:47] <LunchBot> You poke a
discussion with a stick to see if it is dead. David Bowie's
"Space Oddity" plays from an unknown source...you are
slightly unsettled.
L159[15:51:00] <Deddly> Seems legit
L160[15:51:10] <Deddly> !nextlunch
L161[15:51:10] <LunchBot> Instant
noodles.
L162[15:51:16] <Deddly> Yum
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L164[15:52:12] *
raptop tries to make sure that even the joke nextlunches are
reasonable suggestions
L165[15:52:21] <raptop> !nextlunch
arbitr
L166[15:52:21] <LunchBot> Nachos with an
arbitrarily large selection of toppings.
L167[16:09:47] <Mat2ch> I bet someone in
here is keeping a log for eternity.
L168[16:10:11] <Mat2ch> Me bet is on
Deddly
L169[16:10:33] <Pinkbeast> So do I but it
ain't me :-)
L170[16:11:39] <SporkWitch> my bouncer
logs all and so does my client, but that's mostly because i prefer
the behaviour of it filling in the chat logs on connection,
regardless of whether i was disconnected from all clients or
not.
L171[16:11:59] <SporkWitch> it's not like
i think there's dirt or something i need to save here lol
L172[16:12:59] <FLHerne> I have a log, but
it doesn't go back far enough to blame that outcome on
anything
L173[16:13:15] <FLHerne> from the order of
outcomes.txt, it's one of the ones inherited from kmath
L174[16:13:33] <FLHerne> which I believe
came via bees grepping them out of his logs
L175[16:13:49] <raptop> ^that's what
happened
L176[16:17:13] <SporkWitch> think today's
mission will be developing a reusable transport and lander for the
local kerbin system. think i've got the parts i have in mind
unlocked now
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L179[17:31:05] <FLHerne> ;mission add You
must develop a reusable transport and lander for the local Kerbin
system.
L180[17:31:06] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You must develop a reusable transport and lander for the local
Kerbin system.
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L182[17:31:51] <JVFoxy> zoom zoom... or
something. mm coffee
L183[17:39:42] <darsie> SSTO with LKO fuel
station with Minmus fuel.
L184[17:42:35] <JVFoxy> 'tall
order'?
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L186[18:03:54] <Mat2ch> !mission
L187[18:03:54] <LunchBot> You taunt
KwirkyJ. The Mün dust makes you bleed, so you set off in search of
Even Crazier Spacedust.
L188[18:04:15] <Mat2ch> KwirkJ... a name I
haven't seen in a long time
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L192[19:03:26] <SporkWitch> i can't figure
out how to power this plasma engine >_< lol
L193[19:12:43] <JVFoxy> solar
panels?
L194[19:12:58] <SporkWitch> i need to
generate 60MW lol
L195[19:13:09] <SporkWitch> trying to make
the ELF Plasma engine work lol
L196[19:13:24] <JVFoxy> oh.. mod'd
L197[19:13:32] <SporkWitch> I'm thinking I
might just not have sufficiently efficient reactors to generate
what i need
L198[19:13:51] <SporkWitch> Might have to
try experimenting with beamed power. Hadn't really messed with
that, I tend to prefer self-contained stuff.
L199[19:14:03] <JVFoxy> more reactors,
guessing more heat dissipation too.
L200[19:14:05] <SporkWitch> (not to
mention it's just tedious to set up constellations of
satellites)
L201[19:14:36] <SporkWitch> (not to
mention time, since to be really efficient, you want your solar
farm pretty close to the sun)
L202[19:16:55] <SporkWitch> i think i must
be doing something wrong, since as far as I can see the reactor i'm
using SHOULD put out 20MW, but it's only giving me 4
L203[19:17:36] <JVFoxy> might be bug or
its self throttling?
L204[19:17:39] <JVFoxy> check heat
levels?
L205[19:17:53] <darsie> 60 MW
continous?
L206[19:17:58] <SporkWitch> heat looks
stable, but maybe it's just showing that i had the minimum?
L207[19:18:22] <SporkWitch> a lot of the
KSPI stuff does self-throttle based on capacity and draw, up to a
limit (need a minimum or things melt down or explode)
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L214[20:07:52] <SporkWitch> think i
figured it out. the reactor puts out a total of 30MW, but it's 25MW
in the form of charged particles, and only 5MW in the form of
thermal, so even though the thermal generator is capable of more,
it's not getting enough to do so. I'll need to figure out which
reactor gives more thermal power
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