OCLogs: 2022-07-03.log

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L5[00:37:44] <funkenstein> ;mission

L6[00:37:45] <LunchBot> You create a hyperdrive powered SSTO out of genetically modified macaroni noodles. Your efforts are mostly remembered through a humorous webcomic.

L7[00:38:09] <funkenstein> I've gotten that combo before

L8[00:38:17] <funkenstein> ;mission

L9[00:38:17] <LunchBot> You perform gastric bypass surgery on the Deep Space Kraken. You are not going to space today.

L10[00:38:55] <funkenstein> presumably because I'm already in deep space tending to the kraken?

L11[00:41:36] <funkenstein> I was planning to send a plane to laythe by rocket,but I noticed I was short on dv

L12[00:41:56] <funkenstein> can you coast to the surface onb duna or no

L13[00:42:51] <raptop> probably not

L14[00:42:57] <raptop> something something quick save?

L15[00:43:52] <funkenstein> alright. any idea on what I'm doing wrong with my spaceplanes? Or should I wait til flherne is aroumd

L16[00:44:11] <funkenstein> I remember them being a plane person

L17[00:44:50] <raptop> I'm semi-okay with them, so I guess a screenshot could be helpful

L18[00:49:40] <Pinkbeast> Duna's atmo is way too thin

L19[00:53:42] * raptop really should be used to 0.05 atm duna, but I keep on expecting 0.2 atm

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L21[00:55:50] <funkenstein> lolol

L22[00:59:17] <funkenstein> https://imgur.com/a/rucJSC3

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L24[01:01:56] <funkenstein> https://imgur.com/a/ToeWG0J

L25[01:02:34] <funkenstein> those are the only engines that could get the thrust up to 1

L26[01:02:41] <funkenstein> the twr

L27[01:02:45] <raptop> yeah, I'd be worried about the glide ratio

L28[01:03:31] <funkenstein> not enough wing. but I cant't seem to make a craft much smaller and I don't have wings that are very large yet

L29[01:03:38] <Pinkbeast> Are these images in a really weird aspect ratio? But if I did want to glide down on Duna, I'd have huge wide wings with the strength/size ratio very low, not big engines

L30[01:04:48] <raptop> The images imply a triple monitor setup, I think(!)

L31[01:05:08] <Pinkbeast> Even so, Kerbin's a _very_ oblate spheroid in the first

L32[01:05:15] <raptop> I mean, I guess there's putting together wings from multiple panels if they're available

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L34[01:11:12] <funkenstein> they are and they do.

L35[01:11:25] <funkenstein> I got it to 1.01 twr

L36[01:11:49] <funkenstein> but it's teeny and has very little potential for travel beyond the atmosphere

L37[01:12:00] <Pinkbeast> Why a >1 TWR on a glider?

L38[01:12:21] <funkenstein> the idea was to glide down to laythe's surface and then fly back home

L39[01:12:28] <funkenstein> using a plane

L40[01:12:42] <Pinkbeast> OK, but to fly up doesn't need a >1 surface TWR

L41[01:13:05] <funkenstein> however I was too short for laythe so I wondered about heading to duna

L42[01:13:08] <Pinkbeast> (with wings)

L43[01:13:09] <funkenstein> I

L44[01:13:10] <funkenstein> what

L45[01:13:12] <funkenstein> oh

L46[01:13:43] <funkenstein> I feel foolish

L47[01:14:17] <Pinkbeast> Eh, I think we were both talking at cross purposes

L48[01:14:44] <funkenstein> well I have now learned how to take off with only one wing

L49[01:14:55] <Pinkbeast> (I've a Laythe descent-and-ascent plane in the current game, glider to jet to drop the wings and jet and a rocket stage to orbit)

L50[01:58:12] <funkenstein> can you show me screenshots lol

L51[01:59:22] <funkenstein> so you glide down, drop your wings on the ground, fly back up on smaller wing and intake air, then drop those wings as well and use the rocket stage?

L52[02:00:58] <funkenstein> also I haven't got much beyond the 5th tech tier

L53[02:01:11] <Pinkbeast> Not right now, re screenshots, but no - same wings down and up, and when the jets flame out the whole wing-and-jet drops and a rocket stage goes to orbit.

L54[02:01:40] <Pinkbeast> (and this is with a ton of mods, but ones that don't give better performance than stock AFAICT. And in a FAR world.)

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L56[02:09:48] <funkenstein> nice

L57[02:10:10] <funkenstein> no idea what that means but nice. I don't know how to mod my steam iteration

L58[02:10:53] <Pinkbeast> KSP isn't DRMed, you can copy the entire install and then use https://github.com/KSP-CKAN

L59[02:11:15] <Pinkbeast> FAR is Ferram Aerospace Research, models the shape of your ship in the air.

L60[02:11:26] <Pinkbeast> Planes fly more like planes.

L61[02:11:28] <funkenstein> I have ckan, used it on my other iteration

L62[02:12:02] <Pinkbeast> Er, so you have used Steam to create a whole new install you can't mod?

L63[02:12:28] <funkenstein> but I have no idea how to deal with the copying and all that. I'm terrible with computers (my mom thought they would inspire violence somehow)

L64[02:12:41] <funkenstein> yes

L65[02:12:54] <Pinkbeast> ... stop using Steam and have an install you can mod?

L66[02:13:36] <funkenstein> but the install was from igggames and I want the updated version

L67[02:14:04] <Pinkbeast> Uh, I wouldn't admit to having a yarred install here

L68[02:14:19] <Pinkbeast> ... but you can just copy the entire directory out of steam

L69[02:15:31] <funkenstein> and I know this iteration is moddable I just don't know howq to copy it over to ckan or whatever and the other iteration is functional but broken somehow, it says all the mods I want to install are installed but they will not actually load into the game

L70[02:16:08] <funkenstein> I can't even interact with the mods outside of the search list

L71[02:16:13] <funkenstein> blah blah'

L72[02:16:17] <Pinkbeast> Leaving aside the unmentionable install, you can just find the entire KSP directory in your steam directory, copy and paste it elsewhere, it'll work.

L73[02:16:29] <funkenstein> ok

L74[02:16:42] <funkenstein> is the directory a window I can open

L75[02:17:04] <Pinkbeast> Windows calls directories "folders"

L76[02:17:28] <funkenstein> okay then

L77[02:17:54] <funkenstein> so I look under steam in the file manager thing

L78[02:18:14] <Pinkbeast> I'm starting to wonder if you're perhaps playing a prank

L79[02:18:20] <funkenstein> why

L80[02:19:40] <Pinkbeast> Well, Windows hasn't had a "file manager" for some time.

L81[02:20:36] <funkenstein> whatever it's called, the only windows I'm familiar with is xp and this computer is weird to me

L82[02:21:04] <Pinkbeast> And what _is_ this computer?

L83[02:21:12] <funkenstein> I miss the red x in the corner aa

L84[02:21:27] <funkenstein> it's something my partner built, uuumm

L85[02:22:49] <funkenstein> it's windows for sure, I know it's got a ryzen 7 3thousand something, an nvidia gforce graphpics card, a tuff gamoing board that I don't recall the model of, some fans

L86[02:23:08] <Pinkbeast> Does it have a Start menu?

L87[02:23:16] <funkenstein> for sure

L88[02:23:41] <funkenstein> I'm not even 25 yet I shouldn't be this inept

L89[02:23:56] <Pinkbeast> Does that let you get to Computer, or "This PC"?

L90[02:24:51] <funkenstein> it shows a menu of "most used," "life at a glance," and "play and explore"

L91[02:25:37] <Pinkbeast> What do you see in the "file manager thing" ?

L92[02:26:07] <funkenstein> well now I can't find that

L93[02:26:20] <funkenstein> ah

L94[02:26:26] <funkenstein> file explorer, whatever

L95[02:27:04] <funkenstein> recently used, quick access, downloads, etc etc

L96[02:27:27] <funkenstein> exxcept it calls them frequent folders

L97[02:27:58] <Pinkbeast> Right, but can you find C: ?

L98[02:28:17] <funkenstein> local disc, got itr

L99[02:28:31] <funkenstein> it* now find steam?

L100[02:28:53] <funkenstein> wait, it's not showing much

L101[02:28:56] <Pinkbeast> Probably C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\

L102[02:29:22] <funkenstein> hey hey it's like and address

L103[02:29:28] <funkenstein> an*

L104[02:30:15] <Pinkbeast> Look, I cannot explain this tonight. But it can be done.

L105[02:30:18] <funkenstein> "steamchina" sounds sus

L106[02:30:23] <funkenstein> I'm sorry

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L114[03:43:29] <Izaya> you can use CKAN to copy your instance I'm p sure

L115[03:43:36] <Izaya> oh, gone

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L118[04:04:15] <funkenstein> ;mission

L119[04:04:15] <LunchBot> You dive deep into Jool in pursuit of helium-3. You forget about the mission and get lost in wikipedia for the next 12 hours.

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L122[05:25:07] <Althego> owl is singing

L123[05:28:10] <raptop> ...who labels a water bottle "ethanol"?

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L136[07:22:39] <XXCoder> ;mission

L137[07:22:39] <LunchBot> You stir the tanks. Bill crashes into Ike at 7800 m/s.

L138[07:22:57] <XXCoder> must have ben potent mixture

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L149[10:43:51] <Izaya> funkenstein: I'm p sure you can use CKAN to copy your instance elsewhere

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L153[12:23:06] <packbart> raptop: better than not removing the "juice" label from bottles filled with paint thinner :)

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L156[14:10:34] <Althego> kikkerikii

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L158[15:12:08] <darsie> .

L159[16:04:23] <SporkWitch> didn't get the job :(

L160[16:04:43] <darsie> Which job?

L161[16:05:18] <SporkWitch> one i had a second interview for the other day. Seemed to go really well, but got an email yesterday saying they decided not to proceed :(

L162[16:05:47] <darsie> Did you misfire spells?

L163[16:06:22] <Althego> bought a spork to a knife fight :)

L164[16:06:38] <Althego> brought, annoying ly smilar words

L165[16:06:47] <SporkWitch> dunno. sent them an email back thanking them for their time and asking for feedback; hopefully they answer

L166[16:06:49] <darsie> lightyear

L167[16:19:39] <Althego> not much buzz around buzz lightyear :)

L168[16:21:25] <SporkWitch> went woke, went broke

L169[17:23:39] <packbart> huh. there is actually news about Buzz Lightyear. I didn't know there was a new movie with some fallout over voice actors

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L171[17:39:10] <packbart> !mission

L172[17:39:10] <LunchBot> You see that one of your control rods is stuck and manually pull it up. Your ship is too wide to complete your mission.

L173[17:39:55] <packbart> well, duh. that means it's too low too pull the rod up

L174[17:40:20] <packbart> typical pancake design

L175[18:03:00] <Mat2ch> packbart: yeah, because Tim Allen was to voice in the animated movies and now it is Chris Evans.

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L192[21:34:34] <funkenstein> what is ythe best autostrut setting for radially attached boosters, and why is it grandparent part?

L193[21:35:31] <SporkWitch> i generally use heaviest for those, since they'll usually strut to the main booster; wouldn't want them on grandparent, as i'd think that would be less stable given how far away it is, i'd expect it to CAUSE wobble

L194[21:47:35] <funkenstein> hmm

L195[21:48:17] <funkenstein> with heavy I set a little bit of wobble, but with all the triangles I get with grandparent, I see stiff rockets

L196[21:49:08] <funkenstein> ;mission\

L197[21:49:14] <funkenstein> ;mission

L198[21:49:14] <LunchBot> You invite all four orange suits, the KSC staff, and a few dozen gray suits into an among us tournament. Your satellite is repurposed by the NSA to spy on librarians.

L199[21:50:51] <funkenstein> ;outcome add You burn up exiting the atmosphere, exploding at 50,200m

L200[21:50:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You burn up exiting the atmosphere, exploding at 50,200m

L201[21:51:00] <funkenstein> ;mission

L202[21:51:01] <LunchBot> You try to raise money to upgrade your computers on the ground and on your craft. In theory, the mission is a complete success!

L203[21:53:42] <funkenstein> grandparent part appears to make the smae pattern as heaviest part, but taller

L204[21:54:18] <funkenstein> I get a two dimensional star with heaviest, grandparent looks the same from above but from the side it is a latticework

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L208[22:56:07] <Azander> !mission

L209[22:56:07] <LunchBot> You try a rover race with DarkMultiPlayer. Kerbn cannot into spaec today.

L210[22:57:36] <funkenstein> ;mission

L211[22:57:36] <LunchBot> You decide to proceed with the launch, despite the knife storm. You don't get FAR.

L212[23:16:41] * raptop has not been throwing knives around!

L213[23:16:42] <raptop> !Mission

L214[23:16:48] <raptop> !mission

L215[23:16:48] <LunchBot> You attempt to fix all grammatical errors in kmath's missions. But Althego already fixed it incorrectly. Full Stop.

L216[23:17:02] <raptop> That's worryingly coherent

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