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L1[00:06:36] <raptop> !outcome add You lose your forklift certification.

L2[00:06:36] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You lose your forklift certification.

L3[00:06:45] <raptop> !fixup s/programmable magic/programmable magic./

L4[00:06:59] <raptop> !fixup mission s/programmable magic/programmable magic./

L5[00:07:07] <raptop> hm

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L24[04:50:24] <Althego> heh no virgin orbit launch today

L25[05:06:20] * TheKosmonaut pokes raptop with a pointed stick

L26[05:39:20] <raptop> ow

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L28[07:40:18] <XXCoder> ;mission

L29[07:40:18] <LunchBot> You upgrade R&D. Red5 ends your mission with The People's Elbow.

L30[07:40:33] <XXCoder> .. okay lol

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L33[08:47:20] <FLHerne> raptop: LunchBot adds punctuation if it's missing, or ought to

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L44[11:37:10] <Althego> leet time

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L46[12:34:19] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0HnrG6xafU

L47[12:34:35] <Althego> already launched

L48[12:37:11] <sandbox> 1337

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L50[14:43:30] <FLHerne> ;mission add The Wickwick Event occurs.

L51[14:43:30] <LunchBot> Added mission: The Wickwick Event occurs.

L52[14:51:07] <FLHerne> ;mission add You try to unfold an Atlas.

L53[14:51:07] <LunchBot> Added mission: You try to unfold an Atlas.

L54[14:51:45] <FLHerne> hm, atlases don't really fold

L55[14:51:52] <FLHerne> ;mission del Atlas

L56[14:51:52] <LunchBot> Deleted mission: "You try to unfold an Atlas."

L57[14:52:09] <FLHerne> ;mission add You crack open an Atlas.

L58[14:52:10] <LunchBot> Added mission: You crack open an Atlas.

L59[15:02:52] <raptop> Cracking open an Atlas with the boys

L60[15:02:59] <raptop> (It's a cold one from the LOX)

L61[15:03:52] <raptop> ...anyway, googling "wickwick event" isn't helpful?

L62[15:32:51] <packbart> it's those Falk maps with patented unfold-once technology

L63[15:34:31] <packbart> raptop: maybe. what events does a finnish childrens book publisher trigger in general?

L64[15:35:23] <raptop> packbart: A CK-class restructuring event, where everyone becomes a moomin?

L65[15:35:23] <packbart> bing would like to know if I meant "Warwick Events", "Your sustainable event partner"

L66[15:36:05] <raptop> ...

L67[15:36:16] * raptop flips sign. Zero [0] days since I have confused Sweden and Finland

L68[15:37:11] <packbart> "I can see both Boeing and Bechtel hoping for a Wickwick event before the SLS clears the tower. The pork would reach monumental proportions!"

L69[15:37:28] <raptop> ???

L70[15:37:41] <packbart> the Internets seem to be undecided how much a RUD needs to blow up before it's a Wickwick Event. ( https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=1484968&start=80 )

L71[15:38:50] <raptop> ah

L72[15:47:18] <packbart> !mission

L73[15:47:18] <LunchBot> You attempt to sue Jebediah Kerman. The Kraken dines on your vessel.

L74[15:47:34] <packbart> Jeb got some tough lawyers

L75[15:47:48] <packbart> !mission

L76[15:47:48] <LunchBot> Goliath National Products has contracted you to develop the world's first orbit-capable, man-rated, slingshot launcher! Suddenly, you discover all your kerbals are BadS.

L77[15:48:08] <packbart> well, then. we've got a full crew

L78[16:40:43] <FLHerne> raptop: AIUI, the Wickwick event is a SLS failure of significant magnitude to result in its cancellation

L79[16:41:48] <FLHerne> which is a thing I've publically wished for for a couple of years, so I find it amusing that it has a name now

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L82[17:12:29] <raptop> FLHerne: I'm concerned that the only way that can happen is if it kills a couple of senators

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L86[18:13:07] <packbart> nah, they've got enough of those

L87[18:13:21] <packbart> launch pads are rare goods

L88[18:13:54] <packbart> (so they'd rub their hands and bid for new contracts to build another one)

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L92[19:36:55] <Althego> another launch today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGnlt-vto7o

L93[19:38:17] <Mat2ch> Interesting. Seems to be a good day to launch something

L94[19:38:47] <Althego> one was scrubbed

L95[19:38:56] <Althego> 4 launches in 25 hours

L96[19:40:25] <Althego> i didnt know the coins of the united states are so confusing because they dont have the value written on them

L97[19:49:56] <raptop> The most confusing thing about coins is that we have a shortage of some kinds (notably quarters)

L98[19:53:22] <Althego> here we dont even have 1 and 2 coins anymore because they are t wo expensive to produce. so everything operates by rounding to closest 5

L99[19:57:03] <FLHerne> raptop: perhaps 'Ballast' Nelson will take another joyride

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L106[20:38:32] <raptop> ...I'll accept that

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L109[21:23:54] <funkenstein> which of the two links is the updated delta v map

L110[21:24:18] <funkenstein> chvneee or gbolsst

L111[21:25:09] <raptop> ...if they're both post 1.1 or so, it's fine?

L112[21:25:17] <funkenstein> I'm just trying to figure out if 1500 dv is enought to return from duna/ike

L113[21:25:42] <funkenstein> it looks like I need 1450, is that right

L114[21:26:06] <raptop> If by return you mean get to LDO (presumably to rendezvous with a return craft)

L115[21:26:11] <FLHerne> funkenstein: both maps pretty much agree

L116[21:26:47] <funkenstein> oh, I meant to return from orbit of duna to the surface of kerbin

L117[21:26:50] <funkenstein> or ike

L118[21:26:59] <FLHerne> one gives pretty-much-optimal Δv values for atmospheric takeoffs, the other one is closer to what normal people will achieve

L119[21:27:23] <funkenstein> I have a capture that brings me through the sois of both

L120[21:27:46] <raptop> 1300+360+250+130 = 2040 m/s; 1450+360+250+130=2190 m/s, so no where near enough to get a Kerbin intercept from Duna

L121[21:27:56] <funkenstein> woof

L122[21:28:05] <funkenstein> alright

L123[21:28:27] <FLHerne> raptop: orbit of duna, surely don't add the 1300?

L124[21:28:35] <funkenstein> I tried too hard to keep the craft under 30 tons

L125[21:28:41] <raptop> Oh, I thought he was starting from Dunaś surface

L126[21:28:49] <funkenstein> she

L127[21:28:54] <raptop> *she

L128[21:28:56] <funkenstein> orbit of 1mm

L129[21:28:59] <funkenstein> Mm

L130[21:29:05] <raptop> Hrm, high orbit

L131[21:29:07] <FLHerne> 1450 should be ok I think

L132[21:29:19] <funkenstein> or, if I do it at ike, 560k

L133[21:29:39] <funkenstein> alrighty

L134[21:29:43] <funkenstein> thanks

L135[21:29:46] <funkenstein> ;mission

L136[21:29:47] <LunchBot> You fill all your tanks with soda pop. A small dog accidentally eats the subsequent interstellar war.

L137[21:30:02] <raptop> Anyway, 1500 m/s for getting home from a high orbit is probably enough, unsure if dropping your periapsis would reduce overall costs

L138[21:30:24] <funkenstein> kosmischund

L139[21:31:31] <funkenstein> it might, but I was hoping to get a science jr report from orbit of both planets, so I would like to keep my current trajectory

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L142[22:15:19] <funkenstein> whoops, vessel two is now orbiting the sun

L143[22:16:13] <funkenstein> ;outcome add You aim for home, but catch the Sun. Very inspirational.

L144[22:16:13] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You aim for home, but catch the Sun. Very inspirational.

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L146[22:16:47] <raptop> Please remember to wear oven mitts or similar thermal protection while holding a star

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L149[22:20:04] <funkenstein> quite

L150[22:21:22] <funkenstein> Introducing new and improved SunGrabbers, for grabbing your HOT, HOT Sun!

L151[22:23:04] <funkenstein> i HOPE THERE'S ENOUGH SNACKS FOR 3 YEARS

L152[22:23:12] <funkenstein> oh geex,m caps lock

L153[22:23:18] <funkenstein> geez*

L154[22:24:40] <funkenstein> ;outcome add A rogue M comes out of nowhere, smacking into you.

L155[22:24:40] <LunchBot> Added outcome: A rogue M comes out of nowhere, smacking into you.

L156[22:43:28] <darsie> A very light red dwarf might be 300 K on the surface.

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L159[22:43:50] <darsie> There might be life on its surface.

L160[22:45:12] <darsie> Heavier elements would sink in the hydrogen, though.

L161[22:47:46] <raptop> 300 K sounds like a Y dwarf

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L163[23:03:45] <Pinkbeast> After a bunch more Elcano I've concluded Moho is a really silly shape

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L165[23:39:13] <packbart> !mission

L166[23:39:13] <LunchBot> You search for the fabled Gas Planet II. You make two important discoveries in rapid succession: Your glasses have been on the floor all this time, and that marker you've been burning along is actually the retrograde one.

L167[23:39:33] <raptop> oh no

L168[23:40:16] <packbart> sooo, with the glasses on, I see only one Gas Planet

L169[23:40:49] <packbart> retrograde orbits are the cool kids' orbits, anyway

L170[23:41:08] <packbart> prograde is such a burgeois orientation

L171[23:42:16] <raptop> All hail the damocloids

L172[23:51:42] <funkenstein> 24.23 twr

L173[23:51:53] <funkenstein> a happy dance ensues