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L4[00:38:18] <raptop> !mission add You do not secure the doors on your ro-ro ferry.
L5[00:38:18] <LunchBot> Added mission: You do not secure the doors on your ro-ro ferry.
L6[00:39:26] <raptop> !outcome add Your rockets' flight certificates are revoked.
L7[00:39:26] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your rockets' flight certificates are revoked.
L8[00:40:10] <darsie> rocket's?
L9[00:40:36] <darsie> Ohh, are.
L10[00:41:57] <packbart> I use free flight certificates from LetsLaunch
L11[00:43:28] <raptop> Heh
L12[00:43:42] * raptop wonders if there's some silliness possible with a mission or outcome about encrypting rockets
L13[00:46:01] <darsie> !outcome add Wannacry encrypts your rocket access codes.
L14[00:46:01] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Wannacry encrypts your rocket access codes.
L15[00:47:09] <raptop> !outcome add Your guidance computer restarts mid-flight to install updates.
L16[00:47:09] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your guidance computer restarts mid-flight to install updates.
L17[00:48:41] <packbart> It was a scheduled fleet-wide update. Didn't you read the memo?
L18[00:49:35] <packbart> "No flights shall take place while R&D unlocks new tech nodes and updates control software."
L19[00:49:52] <raptop> No launches scheduled during patch Tuesday
L20[00:50:49] <packbart> No maneuvers on weekends
L21[00:52:28] <packbart> Kerbals only number their days and years. They don't even count months
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L27[02:12:19] <JVFoxy> lol.. ok I know I'm late to things but.. just watching the docking video and didn't realize till now Jeb was actually on the Starliner ship
L28[02:17:09] <JVFoxy> huh.. it was kept secret up till docking from what I was reading on an article.. although, wondering how many people predicted it anyways?
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L32[02:52:28] <funkenstein> ;mission
L33[02:52:28] <LunchBot> You attempt to send a RTG through the post. You have made Dres real.
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L35[03:05:16] <funkenstein> ;mission
L36[03:05:16] <LunchBot> Your otters are lydian augmented. gravitation tides rip your body apart.
L37[03:05:28] * raptop blinks
L38[03:05:34] <funkenstein> what lol
L39[03:06:29] <funkenstein> ;mission add Jeb elects to make a rapid unauthorised exit of the ISS.
L40[03:06:29] <LunchBot> Added mission: Jeb elects to make a rapid unauthorised exit of the ISS.
L41[03:07:07] <funkenstein> ;outcome add this lays waste to everything not in sight.
L42[03:07:07] <LunchBot> Added outcome: this lays waste to everything not in sight.
L43[03:20:04] * raptop is still confused by the otters, so have some videos https://www.youtube.com/c/KOTARO_OTTER/videos
L44[03:20:48] <funkenstein> raptop the otters you posted are the reason i decided otters remind me of lydian augmented
L45[03:20:59] <raptop> hmm
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L50[03:42:14] <JVFoxy> geez.. those poor otters. :\
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L74[11:02:49] <funkenstein> I had no attachment point that I could use on the bottom of my landing stage, so I decided to launch it stored upside-down in the fairing, to then switch the control point to normal and pilot it normally. does this work or am I wasting time
L75[11:04:11] <Althego> i would put a cubic octagonal strut to the bottom, and there you go, you have your attachment point
L76[11:05:00] <Althego> you can of course do the upside down thing
L77[11:05:42] <funkenstein> rather, it has four outer engines and tanks and one inner one, the four offset the weight of the one and therefore tthe middle section is far higher than the surrounding four and is not a reasonable attachment oint
L78[11:05:50] <funkenstein> sweet
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L81[11:41:34] <funkenstein> It worked wonderfully
L82[11:42:10] <funkenstein> ;mission add You forgo struts in an effort to cut down on the cost of your vessel.
L83[11:42:10] <LunchBot> Added mission: You forgo struts in an effort to cut down on the cost of your vessel.
L84[11:43:14] <funkenstein> ;outcome add This proves disastrous for your kerbals around Eve.
L85[11:43:14] <LunchBot> Added outcome: This proves disastrous for your kerbals around Eve.
L86[11:47:40] <funkenstein> 2.4 twr is plenty to escape duna, right
L87[11:47:53] <funkenstein> nevermind what am I even saying
L88[11:47:57] <funkenstein> ;mission
L89[11:47:57] <LunchBot> You decide to bring a 90 Kerbal base to Laythe. It turns out that Quantium was involved the entire time, and everything that could go possibly go wrong did, but it all cancelled out and the mission was a success.
L90[12:13:18] <funkenstein> ;mission
L91[12:13:18] <LunchBot> You resolve to rescue all the kerbals you've stranded. You set a new record for minimising delta-v use.
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L94[12:34:08] <Mat2ch> !mission
L95[12:34:08] <LunchBot> Poor punctuation places pronounced pressure on particular pernicious (yet patient) prattle-policing personages. Supernovy explodes, emitting all kinds of deadly radiation.
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L97[13:09:59] <taniwha> 2.4 TWR is enough to escape even a black hole
L98[13:10:47] <taniwha> 2.4 TMR, on the other hand, probably isn't enough to get you off duna
L99[13:15:11] <funkenstein> haha
L100[13:15:21] <funkenstein> whichever KSP means by TWR
L101[13:15:57] <Pinkbeast> I'm torn between saying you can't have 2.4 TMR because it isn't dimensionless and yes we all say TWR when we mean T(W asl on Kerbin)R
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L105[14:16:54] <packbart> local TWR reaches ridiculous numbers in space as displayed by Kerbal Engineer
L106[14:18:28] <Pinkbeast> I switched KER over to surface TWR since it's usually a more interesting number
L107[14:50:55] <funkenstein> lol when your twr reads 7.blank
L108[14:51:15] <funkenstein> Does anyone else here play grand strategy games
L109[14:51:21] <funkenstein> ;mission
L110[14:51:21] <LunchBot> You attach a retroencabulator to your payload. This will be fixed in the next version.
L111[15:00:40] <funkenstein> ;mission
L112[15:00:40] <LunchBot> You hire Rube Goldberg to make your next rocket. You see what a geon looks like from the inside.
L113[15:01:36] <Althego> In theoretical general relativity, a geon is a nonsingular electromagnetic or gravitational wave which is held together in a confined region by the gravitational attraction of its own field energy. They were first investigated theoretically in 1955 by J. A. Wheeler, who coined the term as a contraction of "gravitational electromagnetic entity".[1]
L114[15:13:30] <funkenstein> ;mission
L115[15:13:30] <LunchBot> You try to build a stealth battlecruiser. Why? For the glory of science of course!
L116[15:13:55] <funkenstein> remarkably coherent.
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L125[16:04:57] <funkenstein> ;mission
L126[16:04:57] <LunchBot> You decide to go have lunch, leaving MechJeb to execute your maneuver burns unsupervised. This is fine.
L127[16:29:51] <UmbralRaptop> 🐕🔥 intended, but it might work out
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L130[16:47:38] <Althego> so it didnt go exactly as planned this time either https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/05/21/boeings-starliner-capsule-completes-first-nail-biting-docking-at-space-station/
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L133[17:15:46] * raptop likes TMR (implicitly N/kg)
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L136[18:13:45] <darsie> AKA acceleration
L137[18:14:54] <darsie> Can be expressed in g.
L138[18:15:01] <darsie> hmm
L139[18:15:04] <darsie> kinda
L140[18:22:56] <raptop> I mean, yeah, divide by 9.80665
L141[18:26:58] <Althego> ah scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXEdTtoLJj0
L142[18:32:52] <Althego> hehe i didnt notice there was a kerbal on the starliner
L143[18:33:01] <Althego> only bow in the scott video
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L151[22:56:24] <funkenstein> ;mission
L152[22:56:25] <LunchBot> You try to capitalise your capacity of flux capacitors. You are caught playing KSP at work for the fourth time and fired on the spot.
L153[22:57:05] <funkenstein> ;outcome add You are caught playing KSP at work and promoted on the spot!
L154[22:57:05] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You are caught playing KSP at work and promoted on the spot!
L155[22:58:52] <funkenstein> ;mission add You are smacked on the bottom by a sassy asteroid
L156[22:58:52] <LunchBot> Added mission: You are smacked on the bottom by a sassy asteroid
L157[23:06:33] <taniwha> that feels much more like an outcome than a mission
L158[23:07:36] <funkenstein> _-_
L159[23:08:14] <funkenstein> ;outcome add This proves disastrous for you and the population of Dres
L160[23:08:15] <LunchBot> Added outcome: This proves disastrous for you and the population of Dres
L161[23:08:30] <taniwha> my rule of thumb is: missions: you do something. outcomes: something happens (maybe to you)
L162[23:08:55] <taniwha> that would definitely be an outcome :)
L163[23:10:23] <funkenstein> Yes, but sometimes things just happen to you, one after the other. Like a...series of unfortunate events.
L164[23:10:37] <taniwha> a series of outcomes
L165[23:11:19] <taniwha> basically, mission: in your control. outcome: not in your control
L166[23:11:45] <taniwha> willful vs unwillful
L167[23:12:48] <taniwha> it would help greatly if the bot had some actual context
L168[23:13:12] <taniwha> previous outcomes selecting possibilities for subsequent missions
L169[23:14:31] <taniwha> one thing to consider is the Apollo 13 mission ended the moment the O2 tank exploded
L170[23:15:19] <taniwha> after that it was a series of "you attempt to get home" and various outcomes (with the eventual outcome of getting home)
L171[23:15:48] <taniwha> rbh, I blame the bot
L172[23:17:46] <raptop> It's a silly feature that just has been ported across multiple bots because it makes people laugh
L173[23:18:33] <funkenstein> ;mission
L174[23:18:33] <LunchBot> Your instruments blow up on the pad. And that's terrible.
L175[23:18:52] <funkenstein> I think it could be used for writing prompts as well
L176[23:18:57] <taniwha> it's good when the missions work as missions out outcomes work as outcomes. Mixing them up just makes for double outcomes like that
L177[23:19:28] <funkenstein> ;outcome taniwha
L178[23:19:28] <LunchBot> Taniwha deletes your recently added ;mission due to your bad grammar.
L179[23:19:37] <funkenstein> ;mission taniwha
L180[23:19:37] <LunchBot> Here comes a taniwha!
L181[23:19:56] <taniwha> (or double missions, but I haven't seen too many outcomes that should be missions)
L182[23:19:57] <raptop> hm
L183[23:20:03] <raptop> !mission raptop
L184[23:20:03] <LunchBot> Following UmbralRaptop's advice, you switch from CSV to FITS for storing your tabular data.
L185[23:20:35] <raptop> !outcome raptop
L186[23:20:35] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "raptop".
L187[23:20:49] * raptop vanishes in a cloud of 0s and 1s
L188[23:21:01] * Pinkbeast inspects the cloud carefully
L189[23:23:48] <taniwha> no argument that it can be good for inspiration, nor that it can be quite funny, but I find that scrambled missions breaks the spell
L190[23:25:57] <taniwha> all the best combos have been "you do something" "something happens", regardless of absurdity (though the more absurd, the better, in general)
L191[23:27:12] <taniwha> of course, that's my opinion (not worth much), but at least you'll understand where I'm comeing from when I pipe up about these things
L192[23:28:45] <taniwha> (and that "here comes a taniwha" should be an outcome :P )
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