L6[00:34:43] <funkenstein> 787 comin' out of the sky

L7[00:35:11] <funkenstein> carry me down to the house of dead souls, come on!

L8[00:35:21] <funkenstein> ;mission

L9[00:35:21] <LunchBot> You commission a combination memorial obelisk/space elevator. In the ensuing investigation, you maintain that that mountain, quote, "came out of freaking nowhere."

L10[00:37:53] <raptop> Oh, yeah, the memorial obelisk lore

L11[00:43:21] <raptop> The idea being that it gets taller and taller as kerbals die and their names are added to it. So eventually it becomes tall enough to use as a space elevator.

L12[00:50:26] <darsie> Scott has a soiled t-shirt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChrBSMMrXD4

L16[02:02:29] <funkenstein> ;mission

L17[02:02:29] <LunchBot> The Lord of Boosters shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of kerbal progeny. Chaos will be sewn from their passage. The hatch is obscured.

L18[02:41:26] <raptop> A livestream from some fire-prone desert for if you're like me, and have a lack of clear weather https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q6DTouuLX0

L44[05:51:49] <funkenstein> ;mission

L45[05:51:49] <LunchBot> You send Stalin Kerman to Duna to colonise a red planet. As you move from LKO to KEO your space ship gains potential energy and you wonder if that increases its mass, too, because E=mc^2.

L50[07:05:41] <Izaya> tfw you spend like two minutes trying to figure out why your rocket won't translate before realising you left the control point on hibernate

L52[08:05:14] <XXCoder> ;mission

L53[08:05:14] <LunchBot> You decide to solve your problems by using regular expressions. Esper has a netsplit.

L54[08:05:39] <XXCoder> I did it so badly it turned into insbility of irc networks. good to know

L57[08:30:41] <funkenstein> ;mission

L58[08:30:41] <LunchBot> You quadruple check your staging before the flight just in case. Your computer crashes so hard you get whiplash and detached organs.

L59[08:31:03] <funkenstein> Hey! That sounds like my last launch!

L60[08:34:53] <Izaya> Nuclear shuttle fully assembled and on its way \o/ https://shadowkat.net/tmp/7fac.html [cw ussr inspired flag]

L61[09:00:34] <funkenstein> it's beautiful, kerbrad

L71[11:22:57] <flayer> ooof

L72[11:23:38] <darsie> .

L74[11:37:56] <sandbox> 1237

L79[12:05:12] <Pinkbeast> Assuming a) no Breaking Ground propellors and b) that kerbals are to go to orbit in pods not external command seats, any idea roughly what the minimum weight for a 3-kerbal Eve ascent vehicle would be and how to go about building one?

L80[12:05:44] <Pinkbeast> (I have a c. 100t multi-stage plane-to-rocket design which works assuming nothing goes wrong. Something usually goes wrong.)

L85[12:58:02] <FLHerne> Pinkbeast: That sounds pretty good tbh, excluding things in the category of weird physics hacks

L86[12:58:24] <Pinkbeast> FLHerne: Well, ideally it would be less prone to going wrong

L87[13:01:06] <Mat2ch> !mission

L88[13:01:06] <LunchBot> You feed your kerbals catnip to see what will happen. The Great Will Of The Macrocosm reverts the mission to launchpad.

L89[13:01:30] <Mat2ch> !mission

L90[13:01:30] <LunchBot> You skim Jool's atmosphere. Danny2462 thinks you're crazy.

L91[13:01:47] <Mat2ch> Crazy for not trying to land on Jool!

L92[13:01:56] <FLHerne> most of the entries in "lightest EAV" threads seem to be wide-but-short rockets with lots of radial asparagus staging

L93[13:02:03] <FLHerne> and Vectors

L94[13:02:38] <FLHerne> "something usually goes wrong" would describe any of my attempts at spaceplanes, I never did master flying them

L95[13:06:03] <flayer> i got one using panthers and cheetahs that's surprisingly good

L96[13:09:05] <flayer> and my panther based vtol science jet works surprisingly well too

L97[13:45:18] <funkenstein> ;mission

L98[13:45:18] <LunchBot> For seasonal reasons, you adjust your clock by one (1) hour. This unsurprisingly causes a resonance cascade.

L99[13:52:33] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: Hm, when it's getting a bit colder again, I can give you a craft file of a working one

L100[14:06:57] <Althego> cringe: http://www.telemetry.space/

L101[14:11:09] <cringe> hmm, no detailed ethos

L102[14:11:32] <cringe> nice to see some data coming down tho

L103[14:12:41] <Althego> there is urine tank level :9

L104[14:13:32] <cringe> hmm, hasn't loaded for me

L105[14:14:54] <cringe> some data is better tha no data at all, i'll take that as a good sign of things to come

L106[14:15:18] <Althego> you have to wait for a while to get everything

L107[14:15:26] <Althego> i guess it updates as data is coming in

L108[14:16:11] <cringe> at least these folks have a trello and a slack where i could go bug em

L109[14:16:31] <Althego> hehe

L110[14:17:16] <Althego> heh it could cache the data server side

L111[14:17:33] <Althego> so at least there is something if there was no update yet

L112[14:17:41] <Althego> but irone tank was 15%

L113[14:21:43] <cringe> bookmarks updated, cheers

L114[14:21:54] <cringe> excited to see someone doing something

L115[14:26:40] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: I mean, I've built plenty of spaceplanes that *work*, often with plenty of performance margin (single-stage to Minmus, say)

L116[14:27:09] <FLHerne> it's just that I'm terrible at flying them, so half the time I get stuck in that not-making-progress zone about 20km altitude

L117[14:27:18] <FLHerne> or just flip and crash :p

L118[14:40:15] <Pinkbeast> Atmosphere Autopilot will fly almost anything, but the transition from spaceplane to rocket often gets exciting

L120[15:02:35] <Pinkbeast> . o O (actually maybe kOS can stop the discarded section immediately pitching up and hitting the rocket)

L121[15:06:19] <SporkWitch> separatrons are your friend

L122[15:07:34] <taniwha> or you could try flying upside down

L123[15:08:14] <SporkWitch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUZxSf_P2r0

L124[15:08:16] <SporkWitch> lol

L125[15:08:25] <Pinkbeast> I tried that (separatrons), and the Space-Y rocket decouplers. I have invented a wide range of ways the discarded section can bump the next stage off course! The frontiers of science are being pushed back!

L126[15:09:03] <Pinkbeast> flying upside down> that's an interesting idea but I suspect the discarded stage will then immediately pitch up and etc

L127[15:11:59] <SporkWitch> i kind of want to see this rocket now; i've never really had issues with separation as long as i got my staging right and positioned things properly

L128[15:12:13] <taniwha> as for seperatrons: https://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot3124.png

L129[15:12:17] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: the trick is to gain speed in the lower parts. You start out pretty level until you reach Mach 1, then climb slowly. You should be at Mach 3 at 10 km height. Then go almost flat and accelerate further. When you reach 20 km you should be at 1200 to 1300 m/s. Now glide up until the engines don't produce thrust anymore and use something rocket powered for the last few m/s.

L130[15:13:56] <Pinkbeast> SporkWitch: Not at the games machine, but the basic problem is the rocket stage is on top of, even slightly behind, the plane; this means it can get _down_ onto Eve using the heat tolerance of the spaceplane parts on the belly. So there's a lot of scope for the discarded stage to collect the rocket stage.

L131[16:27:59] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjE_YCl5xcg Kerbal Space Program 2 Timing Update

L132[16:29:44] <darsie> Early 2023

L133[16:41:52] <darsie> How much is that in real time?

L134[16:46:27] <raptop> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L135[16:52:04] <Mat2ch> always next year.

L136[16:58:03] <Mat2ch> I always wonder why make a video when a short message should've been enough?

L137[17:01:00] <darsie> Perhaps there was a short message. I saw the video because I watched youtube.

L138[17:02:09] <darsie> Can't see it on https://www.kerbalspaceprogram.com/news

L140[17:52:36] <raptop> !mission add Due to a clerical error, your NERVA engines are subcontracted out to NERV.

L141[17:52:36] <LunchBot> Added mission: Due to a clerical error, your NERVA engines are subcontracted out to NERV.

L142[17:52:42] <raptop> (This is Izaya's fault)

L144[17:59:38] <packbart> EVA science experiments suddenly become energetic

L146[18:18:18] <XXCoder> ;mission

L147[18:18:19] <LunchBot> You replace the atmosphere of your spacecraft with aerogel. David Bowie is disappointed in you. You are a very poor Starman.

L148[18:18:53] <XXCoder> I forgot the first step: gene edit kerbals to breathe aerogel

L151[18:42:21] <Izaya> raptop: oh dear, the NTRs are going to have a mental break

L152[19:05:00] <raptop> I guess we'll find out what the Isp of LCL is

L156[20:31:51] <raptop> !outcome add You're unsure where to bury the survivors.

L157[20:31:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You're unsure where to bury the survivors.

L165[23:19:28] <raptop> !mission add Inspired by classic sci-fi, you create the Torment Nexus.

L166[23:19:29] <LunchBot> Added mission: Inspired by classic sci-fi, you create the Torment Nexus.

L168[23:38:47] <Azander> !mission

L169[23:38:47] <LunchBot> You try your newly discovered "flubber" as a different form of lithobraking. Civilisation is destroyed by an unknown probe you hailed while it was approaching Kerbin.

L170[23:43:43] <raptop> It's all your fault

L171[23:43:52] <raptop> (...and maybe that of the aliens who built the probe. maybe)

L172[23:48:33] <Azander> heh

L173[23:48:52] <Azander> I was just following procedure!

L174[23:49:15] <raptop> If it doesn't look like Luna III, it's not the True Probe (all hail)!

L175[23:54:51] <raptop> !outcome add Your kerbals are reduced to a goo^H^H^Hsoup-like homogenate in under 30 seconds.

L176[23:54:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your kerbals are reduced to a goo^H^H^Hsoup-like homogenate in under 30 seconds.