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L15[01:48:11] <SporkWitch> plot twist:
Kerbals are defense contractors. It explains everything! lol
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L18[02:16:05] <Pinkbeast> SporkWitch: But -
for the other oddities of kerbal spaceflight - their engineering is
superb. Their engines light every time, their decouplers decouple.
Things don't just fall off.
L19[02:17:26] <SporkWitch> i dispute the
decouplers decoupling; i regular have to hit it an extra time to
make it go off lol
L20[02:18:15] <Pinkbeast> Their space
program would be perfect if it wasn't for the idiot who designs the
rockets (the idiot looks very like me, hm)
L21[02:19:01] <SporkWitch> That's like the
a-hole who's always drinking all my beer! He looks like me
too!
L22[02:19:37] <Pinkbeast> Ah, that's the
beer mugger, who when you go out for a quiet pint hits you over the
head and takes all the money out of your wallet
L23[02:35:55] <UmbralRaptor> Infinite
reignitions, can plausibly deep throttle to <1% with no Isp loss
at all, and bells rugged enough to land on. Kerbal engines are
amazing
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L25[02:40:30] <SporkWitch> fair point,
we'll stick with the KSP2 dev's conclusion: they're Warhammer 40k
Orks
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L31[02:59:51] <Pinkbeast> Their tanks don't
leak. They don't need ullage motors. Their reaction wheels are...
well, leaving aside "magical", they must have some truly
amazing bearings.
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L47[07:58:16] <Izaya> Mappa B 1 executes
its mid course correction burn on the way to the Mün, with a Munar
eclipse sweeping across Kerbin in the background.
https://shadowkat.net/tmp/4fa8.jpg [cw ussr inspired
flag]
L48[07:59:40] <Althego> wait, it is
visible?
L49[07:59:50] <Althego> is it a mod?
L50[07:59:52] <Izaya> yeah
L51[08:00:00] <Izaya> I want to say it's
PlanetShine but I could be wrong.
L52[08:00:32] <Althego> one annoying thing
is, that in ksp, the eclipses are quite ocmmon, but nothing gets
dark. you are just peacefully doing stuff in the sunshine, wait
,why is the charge running low? oh because sun is blocked, but cant
see it
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L54[08:22:30] <funkenstein> ;mission
L55[08:22:30] <LunchBot> After making some
money with your junkyard, you also start selling rocket parts. Your
propellant choices end up on Derek Lowe's blog.
L56[08:22:37] <funkenstein> ;mission
L57[08:22:37] <LunchBot> You attempt to
aerobrake Jool in Eve's atmosphere. The Kraken bakes and then
devours Gilly.
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L59[08:25:33] <funkenstein> ;mission
L60[08:25:33] <LunchBot> You misread tako
as taco, and attempt to eat the kraken. Nothing more hard exists in
the universe.
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L63[08:39:06] <XXCoder> so kraken is super
hard eh
L64[08:39:10] <XXCoder> ;mission
L65[08:39:10] <LunchBot> You decide to glue
a rocket on top of a whale. The resulting flame war goes on for
days.
L66[08:39:20] <XXCoder> and no wonder
too
L67[08:48:11] <funkenstein> zif the kraken
is hard it can be madebrittle !
L68[09:07:04] <Althego> whale on top of the
rocket would make sense
L69[09:07:09] <Althego> but rocket on top
of the whale...
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L72[10:08:27] <Mat2ch> I missed a SpaceX
launch? :(
L73[10:08:43] <Althego> oh no
L74[10:08:46] <Althego> i missed it
too
L75[10:08:54] <Althego> i even knew it was
today
L76[10:09:10] <Althego> and it was just
after the daily meeting
L77[10:09:13] <Althego> i could have
watched it
L78[10:10:06] <Althego> there are two other
ones in a few days
L79[10:10:11] <Althego> all 3
starlink
L80[11:02:43] <funkenstein> ;mission add
You make a MK-I pizza.
L81[11:02:43] <LunchBot> Added mission: You
make a MK-I pizza.
L82[11:02:56] <funkenstein> (1.25 m)
L83[11:03:46] <Althego> mark one pizza?
that is practically from the 19th century, way outdated
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L87[11:12:18] <funkenstein> that is
freaking gorgeous, what mods do you have on
L88[11:12:32] <Izaya> uuuuuuuuh a lot
L89[11:12:45] <Izaya> let me grab the
relevant ones
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L93[11:36:39] <Mat2ch> !pizza
L94[11:36:40] <Mat2ch> oh, wait
L95[11:36:42] <Mat2ch> !mission
L96[11:36:42] <LunchBot> You forget that
while kerbals don't need to eat, you do. You receive a sixpack of
Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale (with zero asbestos!) instead.
L97[11:37:15] <Althego> hehe
L98[11:37:32] <Althego> you did get some
drink at least
L99[11:37:52] <Althego> leet time
L100[11:39:46] *
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pizza
L101[11:40:30] <Althego> and with that you
start the 3rd pizza war?
L102[11:43:09] <Azander> !mission
L103[11:43:10] <LunchBot> You code an IRC
bot that spews random lines when prompted. All ends in failure when
you find all of your scientists have been eating the
propellant.
L104[11:43:35] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop: Uhh,
I can lay them on top of each other and add some burger
sauce!
L105[11:43:56] <Althego> eating the
propellant? rocket candy?
L106[11:44:03] <Azander> oookay. the first
part of that is true. I did code an irc bot to spew random
lines
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L108[11:51:38] <UmbralRaptop> mmm… rocket
candy…
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L110[12:02:22] <Althego> but why is there
no rocket chocolate?
L111[12:16:17] <flayer> good
question
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L113[12:25:14] <Izaya> rocklate
L114[12:26:20] <Althego> hehe
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L116[13:05:04] <Althego> guh
L117[13:07:22] <darsie> 3
L118[13:07:24] <darsie> -3
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L134[17:54:32] <SporkWitch> clearly NASA
is responsible for how long KSP2 is taking
https://xkcd.com/2204/ (dunno how i missed this one
when it released, was pretty sure i was still following xkcd
closely back then)
L135[17:59:16] <Mat2ch> Maybe you didn't
and just don't remember. 3 comics a week for 2 years are around 300
comics you have to remember.
L136[17:59:47] <darsie> I don't fully get
it.
L137[18:00:19] <darsie> could go to
explain-xkcd ...
L138[18:00:40] <SporkWitch> true, but i'm
usually pretty good about having a topical one handy for any
situation lol. I've followed it religiously almost since the start
(and at one point went backto catch up, which was much easier 20
years ago lol), though kind of stopped the last 5 or so
L139[18:01:45] <SporkWitch> darsie:
needless to say, KSP is very popular at NASA. The comic is about
the original planned release date of KSP2 and its alignment with
the NASA missions planned for the same time window. They're talking
to a KSP2 begging to push it back because of everyone calling out
sick to play KSP2 on launch day
L140[18:02:12] <SporkWitch> *talking to a
KSP2 dev
L141[18:02:17] <darsie> mhm. Why is the
dev team offering NASA a moon?
L142[18:02:49] <SporkWitch> he's ignoring
them and speaking to the KSP fans about how much of what's been
stated for KSP2 is in direct response to what fans wanted
L143[18:03:18] <SporkWitch> basically
exacerbating the problem the NASA characters are complaining about
lol
L144[18:03:28] <darsie> hmm
L145[18:03:39] <darsie> :)
L146[18:05:48] <darsie> When is this
launch window?
L147[18:09:48] <SporkWitch> this was the
original planned release back in like 2020 or something
L148[18:10:03] <SporkWitch> (isn't the
date in the comic or the mouseover text?)
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L151[18:55:54] <darsie> I might need a
better computer for KSP2.
L152[18:56:37] <darsie> now i7-3770,
GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 16 GB RAM
L153[18:56:38] <SporkWitch> what are you
running right now?
L154[18:57:03] <SporkWitch> GPU will
probably be an issue even at low settings, yeah; i'd imagine the
CPU and RAM sufficient, though not ideal.
L155[18:57:32] <SporkWitch> I'm fairly
confident i'll be able to turn the settings down with my GTX1060
and be fine, but I also have CPU and RAM that are total overkill
for literally anything for the next few years.
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L157[19:07:08] *
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L158[19:07:13] <SporkWitch> mean!
L159[19:07:21] <flayer> its how i show
affection
L160[19:07:37] <flayer> but yeah, i need a
new computer for ksp2
L161[19:07:39] <SporkWitch> that's what
amber "the chocolate factory" heard said... :P
L162[19:26:23] <Mat2ch> oh well, how many
generations of computers will we see before KSP2 lands?
L163[19:26:29] <Mat2ch> 2? Even 3?
L164[19:27:22] <SporkWitch> still not even
a rought release date byond "2022" so no way to know.
Once we get at least quarter estimate, we can guess
L165[19:36:55] <Pinkbeast> I'm quite
content with KSP1
L166[19:37:49] <darsie> I'm pretty much
done with KSP1.
L167[19:38:09] <darsie> Haven't captured a
huge comet, yet.
L168[19:38:23] <Pinkbeast> Haven't roved
around all the worlds
L169[19:38:44] <darsie> 4 NERV comet
pusher tends to be unstable.
L170[19:39:01] <SporkWitch> for me i'm
mostly excited for the base-building and in-orbit construction. The
mods on KSP1 are good, but not ideal, and very clunky to use. It
just opens up so many options for creativity and missions.
L171[19:39:32] <darsie> RSS/RO/RP1 was a
PITA again last I tried.
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L176[20:12:36] <Guest39894> Hello Space
friends,
L177[20:12:36] <Guest39894> i am a Kerbal
noob and tried a mission to build an Akku 200 (Ring) on an old
satelite in space. - I can fly to the satelite with an engineer,
but how can assemble the akku?
L178[20:12:54] <Guest39894> Can you please
help me?
L179[20:13:15] <Pinkbeast> Probably you
want to dock or Klaw it on
L180[20:15:00] <Guest39894> Docking is not
possible, because there is no port. Okay, i try the claw -
thanks
L181[20:19:57] <SporkWitch> always a good
idea to leave at lease one free docking port on anything you think
you might possibly want to expand later or leave in space. They're
cheap and light, so easy to add
L182[20:20:15] <SporkWitch> You can even
use a docking port in staging, so you can use it to drop off the
last engine
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L185[20:23:42] <SporkWitch> That can work,
though it's not ideal for a permanent thing. Forget if it's a
limitation of one of the mods I use, but you can't transfer fuel or
personnel through a claw
L186[20:24:25] <SporkWitch> (some of my
mods are to add some realism while keeping things fine, like not
letting you move kerbals through pieces that you couldn't logically
move through, and can't transfer items or fluids without a logical
connecting path)
L187[20:24:35] <darsie> I thought
engineers can put stuff on nearby vessles, don't need to connect
them. Can also use EVA thrusters to get to it.
L188[20:25:40] <SporkWitch> yes and no.
there are rules about weight and not all things can be stored. So
you can reposition some non-storable things if they were already
attached, and gravity allows for it.
L189[20:26:32] <raptop> In general, proper
rings and structures with loops need docking ports to work
L190[20:27:17] <darsie> What is Akku 200
(ring)?
L191[20:27:38] <darsie> hmm
L192[20:27:55] <SporkWitch> not finding
anything on google
L194[20:28:50] <darsie> Ok. That's a disc
to me.
L195[20:29:24] <darsie>
s/Luftwiederstand/Luftwiderstand
L196[20:30:06] <SporkWitch> ah,
battery
L197[20:31:09] <SporkWitch> I think you
can put those in storage, but if not, you can definitely just mount
it somewhere and use an engineer to reattach it where you
want
L198[20:34:14] <Guest39894> with the
engineer i can reattach parts to the satelite, when it is connected
through a claw. Right?
L199[20:34:35] <SporkWitch> technically
you don't need to connect it, but it will make life easier since
you don't need to worry about them drifting apart while you're
working.
L200[20:35:47] <Guest39894> how far away
can i working without connecting?
L202[20:37:38] <Pinkbeast> Coo, vanilla
KAS, I forgot that existed now
L203[20:43:17] <SporkWitch> yeah, forget
when they added it
L204[20:46:12] <raptop> Looks like it was
added in 1.11 (2020-12-17)
L205[20:47:31] <SporkWitch> still REALLY
clunky, but hey, it's there. Why I'm hopefully that they really
smooth the interface and interaction for orbital and base
construction in KSP2 (remember a few months ago when I was using
UKS and whatnot and the "expansion" phase of doing the
addition made the physics go crazy and spun the station apart?
lol)
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L207[21:12:33] <Pinkbeast> I'm still in
1.9
L208[21:14:29] <raptop> For RSS
purposes?
L209[21:20:04] <Pinkbeast> No, just the
overall way that if you play KSP intermittently and keep updating
you basically spend all your time fiddling with your mod set
L210[21:22:44] <Pinkbeast> I guess now
1.12 is officially Final I could take that step
L211[22:13:09] <Azander> any word on KSP2
? or is it till "when we get it done" ?
L212[22:14:17] <sandbox> done when it's
done
L213[22:14:59] <darsie> It'll be done 10x
faster than fusion power.
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