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L40[06:51:24] <UmbralRaptop> x_X
L41[06:51:34] <X> hello
L42[06:51:48] <X> How is the most umbral of raptor's laptops?
L43[06:51:50] <UmbralRaptop> \o
L44[06:52:10] <UmbralRaptop> (technically this is a phone)
L45[06:52:24] <X> Sorcery
L46[06:52:52] <X> I remember the days back in 2006 when I had to bring my laptop around everywhere.
L47[06:53:23] <X> It was a convertible.
L48[06:56:57] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, there were IRC clients for Treos
L49[06:58:20] <X> Wasn't the blackberry out by then, however?
L50[07:00:56] <UmbralRaptop> yeah, that too
L51[07:04:04] <X> I had some cheap flip phone, then some super tiny flip phone, then the charm, then the pearl, then the curve, then the z10, then the z30, then the iphone 6, then the 7, then the 12.
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L55[07:22:16] <packbart> the Nokia N900 was great. a pocket computer running a Debian-based OS
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L57[08:23:07] <Kalpa> The rise and fall of Symbian OS
L58[08:24:44] <packbart> meh. Maemo wasn't perfect but you could easily apt-get install openvpn and xchat and had a mobile connection to the same irssi(-proxy) IRC session
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L82[15:11:24] <Redshield5> Does anyone know if there are any plugins that calculate interplanetary phase angles?
L83[15:11:38] <Redshield5> I tried to download protractor and apparently it doesn’t work with new versions of KSP
L84[15:12:01] <Redshield5> But estimating these phase angles visually is just not going to cut it for me anymore
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L88[15:18:27] <packbart> MechJeb computes it internally for planetary transfers, not sure if it's displayed anywhere. Astrogator and Kerbal Alarm Clock maybe
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L90[15:21:32] <packbart> ah, I'm too late, anyway
L91[15:21:46] * packbart would have pointed at https://triggerau.github.io/TransferWindowPlanner/images/TWPMainWindow.png
L92[15:26:12] <darsie> horizons displays angles.
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L106[17:43:26] <FLHerne> .mission add You plug your computer into a cheap Chinese power adaptor driven by a lawnmower engine.
L107[17:43:26] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added mission: You plug your computer into a cheap Chinese power adaptor driven by a lawnmower engine.
L108[17:44:07] <FLHerne> .outcome add Surprisingly, nothing has yet gone catastrophically wrong.
L109[17:44:07] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added outcome: Surprisingly, nothing has yet gone catastrophically wrong.
L110[17:44:46] <Althego> lol scott, spherical space pizza
L111[17:56:16] <darsie> Why would a spacecraft need a solar system "GPS"? They have stars and planets. Maybe signal delays give you more accurate distance/location.
L112[17:56:28] <Althego> i think you dont need that
L113[17:56:48] <darsie> And once you know your trajectory you can use GMAT to predict it.
L114[17:57:17] <Althego> there was some video, maybe anton petrov, somehow you can use quasars for positioning
L115[17:57:24] <darsie> But that won't tell you the inaccuracies so you can do correction maneuvers.
L116[17:57:50] <raptop> I mean, you want to use quasars etc for setting up the reference system since they should be far enough to have a parallax of 0
L117[17:58:51] <raptop> But I'm not 100% up on the way astronomical coordiate systems are established >_>;;
L118[17:59:50] <darsie> There are two use cases. You want to arrive at your destination and you want to point you antenna correctly.
L119[18:22:53] <darsie> The reflection of Scott's circular light in his eyes is ... interesting :).
L120[18:33:47] <raptop> Ring shaped lights are popular for that purpose
L121[18:34:04] <Althego> so why are they ring shaped?
L122[18:34:18] <Althego> maybe you can stick a camera through the middle?
L123[18:34:54] <darsie> To soften shadows, I think.
L124[18:35:40] <raptop> Probably
L125[18:35:59] <raptop> though as a sometimes umbralraptor, I feel obligated to stab things with shadows
L126[18:36:47] <darsie> You could drown htings with soft shadows.
L127[18:37:20] <raptop> I guess one could also mess around with light boxen/diffusers
L128[18:45:19] * raptop will continue to use "boxen" until it becomes a valid plural in English
L129[18:45:57] <sandbox> sandboxen
L130[18:46:25] <raptop> exactly!
L131[18:50:44] <packbart> Schattenboxen!
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L140[20:59:07] <darsie> In RO/RSS I used separate procedural computers for first and second stage, but there wasn't enough avionics. I had to have the whole control with the first stage avionics.
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L142[20:59:30] <darsie> Adn another time for the second stage.
L143[20:59:40] <darsie> Adn another time for just the second stage.
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L145[21:00:07] <darsie> Adn extra avionics for the second stage.
L146[21:05:54] <raptop> O_o O_O o_O
L147[21:12:03] <darsie> I tried to correct.
L148[21:16:25] <packbart> Kerbal rockets just pull a long wire through space. all the avionic are safe at the KSC
L149[21:17:24] <darsie> Won't work without crew or computer.
L150[21:17:38] <darsie> s/or/and
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L159[22:31:08] <raptop> This feels like a KSP flag https://twitter.com/AstroBioGeek/status/1508924239457538054
L160[22:31:33] * raptop pokes Izaya's power grid with a liquid metal fast reactor
L161[22:31:41] <Izaya> please do
L162[22:32:02] <Izaya> at least the battery is charging now
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L164[22:40:17] * a_flayer sighs
L165[22:42:15] <a_flayer> i can't really play ksp1 anymore
L166[22:42:32] <a_flayer> 8000+ hours and its just not that interesting anymore
L167[22:42:38] <darsie> mhm
L168[22:43:07] <darsie> I eventually got breaking ground and did a few things with it.
L169[22:44:17] <a_flayer> yeah i'm through with that too
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