L69[18:42:38] <packbart> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/207391-emuv/ - that looks useful for EVA construction

L70[18:43:00] <packbart> (a command chair with RCS, SAS and a docking port)

L71[18:43:37] <Althego> how cute

L72[18:44:02] <Izaya> oooh it's like a suit port but working with the limitations of KSP

L73[18:46:02] <packbart> dock a pallet of materials to a Kerbal, move over to construction site

L74[18:56:23] <raptop> shiny

L75[19:02:04] <darsie> .

L76[19:02:26] <darsie> Probably >50 kg ;)

L77[19:07:58] <darsie> How much volume/mass can it take?

L78[19:38:43] <FLHerne> trace: one present application of gemstones to protect against abrasion is waterjet cutter nozzle tips

L79[19:39:04] <FLHerne> they use artificial... rubies, I think?

L80[19:39:55] <FLHerne> so the jet that's cutting through up to a metre of steel doesn't instantly destroy the nozzle

L81[19:41:36] <trace> FLHerne, why I am asking, is because we know already several applications for diamonds, but what if we can have gigatons of diamonds, then we surely find new use cases for them

L82[19:41:46] <FLHerne> Lots of small diamonds, mostly artificial ones also, are used in diamond-tipped drills and saws and sharpening plates and so on

L83[19:42:08] <trace> at planets as mercury could exist huge diamonds maybe

L84[19:42:45] <trace> we could find ressources in space for that we would need to invent use cases, because we never had that ressource

L85[19:42:55] <FLHerne> I can't think of many uses for huge diamonds, they do shatter easily

L86[19:43:01] <trace> as well as we did not knew for what to use oil

L87[19:43:07] <FLHerne> Your idea of windows wasn't bad

L88[19:43:23] <trace> :)

L89[19:43:53] <FLHerne> Apple were trying to grow artificial sapphires big enough to make phone screens, which would be pretty much unscratchable

L90[19:44:24] <FLHerne> didn't work so far, but I think they use it on the Watch

L91[19:44:59] <FLHerne> more brittle than good-quality glass when dropped though

L94[19:47:29] <FLHerne> Diamonds are rather chemically inert, so there's not much prospect of making other useful materials out of them, nor using them as a feedstock or catalyst for any chemical process

L95[19:47:39] <trace> Apple could produce diamonds for the purpose of scratching phone screens ugly ( I am kidding :D )

L96[19:47:43] <Althego> you can set them on fire

L97[19:48:03] <FLHerne> (unlike oil, which does all kinds of neat stuff)

L98[19:48:09] <trace> Althego, but what if you build normal glass around the diamond

L99[19:48:26] <FLHerne> yeah, but there are easier things to set on fire :p

L100[19:48:46] <Althego> not really hard

L101[19:48:48] <trace> FLHerne, souls (kidding)

L102[19:48:49] <Althego> they burn normally

L103[19:49:44] <FLHerne> Ok, but we have plenty of other things that burn at lower temperatures and are easier to come by

L104[19:50:11] <Althego> but cant be too inert if you can just burn it

L105[19:51:32] <FLHerne> Well, it's fancily-arranged carbon... hmm you're probably right

L106[19:52:10] <Althego> was it nile red who made carbonated drink with burned diamond?

L107[19:52:40] <FLHerne> I remember in some KSR book they had space-elevator cables made of some extruded diamond crystal

L108[19:52:56] <FLHerne> not sure if that's a realistic thing

L109[19:53:14] <Althego> i think nothing is stroing enough what we currently have

L110[19:53:20] <Althego> not even carbon nanotubes

L111[19:54:04] <FLHerne> but that would have to be artificial, and again if you need carbon there are easier ways to get it

L112[19:55:00] <FLHerne> I thought some nanotubes would be if we had any means of producing then on a large scale

L113[19:55:53] <Althego> Available materials are not strong enough to make an Earth space elevator practical.[4][5][6] Some sources have speculated that future advances in carbon nanotubes (CNTs) could lead to a practical design.[2][7][8] Other sources have concluded that CNTs will never be strong enough.[9][10][11] Possible future alternatives include boron nitride nanotubes, diamond nanothreads[12][13] and macro-scale single crystal graphene.[14]

L114[19:56:14] <Althego> diamond nanothreadf

L115[19:56:23] <Althego> sounds cool

L116[19:56:26] <Althego> whatever it is

L117[19:56:43] <FLHerne> My friend is working on a process to produce carbon nanotubes at industrial scale, but the tradeoff is they're too short for any structural purpose

L118[19:57:13] <FLHerne> might be useful for some microelectronics or in paint

L119[19:57:25] <Althego> molecules are generally too short for anything, yet somehow can for mbigger objects

L120[19:57:41] <FLHerne> also, last I heard it still doesn't actually work reliably :p

L121[19:58:37] <FLHerne> Yeah, but these would be really tiny

L122[19:59:35] <Althego> what do we need for fancy batteries? graphene?

L123[20:00:29] <FLHerne> You'd be better off with normal oil-derived polymers, but they have some interesting electrical properties

L124[20:00:45] <FLHerne> Yes, grapheme batteries are a thing

L125[20:00:48] <FLHerne> n

L127[20:33:40] <raptop> grapheme batteries are truely a triumph of solid state linguistics

L128[20:41:37] <NGC3982> solid state linguini

L133[23:30:02] <raptop> !outcome add Senator William Proxmire provides an accurate description of the value of your research.

L134[23:30:02] <LunchBot> raptop: Added outcome: Senator William Proxmire provides an accurate description of the value of your research.