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L15[03:52:45] <transhohmann> uuugh
L16[03:53:25] <transhohmann> I have 42000 electric charge on this satellite yet I can't even get 52 seconds of flight out of it before it loses power
L17[03:53:36] <transhohmann> it refuses to draw from the batteries
L18[03:53:53] <transhohmann> do probes just not work anymore
L19[03:55:23] <transhohmann> whatever I do, my probes will only draw power from the probe core itself and it will not draw from the batteries
L20[03:59:31] <transhohmann> Cumin, garlic, curry, bsil, rosemary, potatoes, black pepper, cayenne pepper, thai pepper, bell pepper(yellow), caraway, coriander, sesame oil, lime zest and oil, peas, lima beans, broccoli, hand-made garlic sausage, extra sharp white cheddar cheese, monterey jack and colby, feta, and cauliflower
L21[04:04:55] <Althego> i have never seen anything like this. do you have mods?
L22[04:15:27] <transhohmann> ys
L23[04:15:39] <transhohmann> near future electrical I think is what these are
L24[04:15:54] <transhohmann> was always fine in sandbox
L25[04:16:15] <transhohmann> additionally, half of my mechjeb windows went away and I cannot get them back
L26[04:30:33] <Althego> hirys... finally
L27[04:32:38] <transhohmann> I cannot delete near fute electrical because I installed it directly into the game files off of curse forge
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L31[04:43:22] <transhohmann> hello shadowlizard
L32[04:43:41] <Althego> more like a bird
L33[04:44:06] <transhohmann> I automatically thought velociraptors and such
L34[04:44:21] <transhohmann> so condor, eagle, what
L35[04:44:43] <Althego> in both cases they are birds
L36[04:44:59] <transhohmann> I meant which raptor
L37[04:45:40] <Althego> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Dromaeosaurs.png
L38[04:45:41] <transhohmann> ural owls are raptors
L39[04:45:49] <transhohmann> falcons are raptors
L40[04:45:58] <transhohmann> velociraptors are raptors
L41[04:46:22] <transhohmann> I'm familiar
L42[05:00:00] <UmbralRaptop> Dromeosaurs basically extra stabby birds
L43[05:00:18] <UmbralRaptop> Compare with cassowaries
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L48[05:53:11] <transhohmann> cassowaries are radical
L49[05:56:19] <Althego> and australia lost the emu war :)
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L52[06:07:15] <transhohmann> not enough emunition?
L53[06:09:21] <transhohmann> as starting up: ModuleManager 191 patches applied, 15 errors
L54[06:11:06] <transhohmann> related to cryotanksfuelswitcher
L55[06:12:19] <transhohmann> the longest startup I've ever seen
L56[06:15:51] <transhohmann> should I avoid touching cryo tanks then
L57[06:15:55] <transhohmann> ;mission
L58[06:15:55] <LunchBot> transhohmann: You confuse brachistochrone and brachiosaur trajectories. Your parachute fails at the very end of the return to Kerbin, killing your crew.
L59[06:17:31] <transhohmann> the game will not start it is stuck on a hydrogen tank in the loading menu
L60[06:17:38] <transhohmann> screen, not munu'
L61[06:20:30] <transhohmann> I get 15 seconds from game launch to the space center, it has been 10 minutes. I am considering deleting the whole thing entirely
L62[06:24:44] <transhohmann> not because of spite, to redownload it mod free
L63[06:25:03] <transhohmann> and only use ckan from now on
L64[06:25:36] <Althego> the more mods you have the more strange things are going to happen
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L75[09:19:06] <XXCoder> ;mission
L76[09:19:06] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You build a photon engine. Wilhelm screams.
L77[09:19:27] <Althego> hehehe
L78[09:19:40] <XXCoder> yeah must have aimed it at Wilhelm
L79[09:20:48] <Althego> probably so bright you get instant burns
L80[09:29:44] <darsie> A normal flashlight has some dv.
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L82[10:27:06] <transhohmann> photon engines mod for ksp with flavour text promising it's not just a very expensive flashlight
L83[10:33:05] <Deddly> darsie, I remember a while back we calculated in here how much thrust the sun would produce if you were to somehow direct all of its energy in a single direction.
L84[10:33:31] <Deddly> It was miniscule, but not non-existent :)
L85[10:33:50] <darsie> Need low dv solutions.
L86[10:34:19] <Deddly> I'm sure it has a *lot* of delta-v
L87[10:38:52] <Izaya> There's a matter-energy conversion photon propelled spacecraft in Project Hail Mary
L88[10:38:54] <Izaya> pretty cool
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L94[12:37:17] <Althego> leet time
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L98[13:12:32] <UmbralRaptop> Uh, 9.08 μN/㎡ for a perfectly reflective sail at 1 au
L99[13:14:33] <UmbralRaptop> If you're somehow emitting solar luminosity in one direction, your thrust is 1.28 EN
L100[13:15:09] <UmbralRaptop> First being 1361 W/㎡ * 2 / c
L101[13:15:54] <UmbralRaptop> Second is 3.83e26 W / c
L102[13:16:36] <darsie> UmbralRaptop: What do you type for m2?
L103[13:16:59] <darsie> aha
L104[13:17:28] <darsie> At 90 deg angle.
L105[13:17:39] <darsie> hmm
L106[13:18:53] <UmbralRaptop> darsie: Unicode abuse. Arguably I should be using ²
L107[13:19:05] <darsie> better
L108[13:19:52] * UmbralRaptop once again wishes that more places supported vim digraphs
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L110[13:45:55] <SporkWitch> UmbralRaptop: are you on windows or linux?
L111[13:46:44] <SporkWitch> If Linux, your DE almost certainly has native compose key support. If windows, there's a great FOSS tool called "wincompose" to provide compose key support on windows
L112[13:48:06] <raptop> SporkWitch: depends wildly on what I'm using, this computer is using linux (albeit the current DE has really poor compose key related functionality), my alter-ego above is on android "linux", and there's another computer sitting next to me running windows
L113[13:48:51] <SporkWitch> well android the keyboard at least has some digraphs built in heh. I typically run KDE on my workstations, which has excellent compose key support
L114[13:49:32] <SporkWitch> i do still need to figure out how to set up a dead greek sequence, i just never seem to find the time
L115[13:50:19] <raptop> For Greek, I typically switch keyboards
L116[13:51:27] <SporkWitch> compose key has maps already for greek alphabet, but no obvious way to initiate the sequence. the config file references a "dead greek" key, much as the usual sequences use the compose key.
L117[13:51:28] <raptop> Well, aside from the phone situation, which took a lot of effort but ended up solved nicely: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wwhTHbZAHjjvvs8d9
L118[13:53:24] <raptop> But on a desktop/laptop, I usually end up with something like this: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fff6bMx7oFqKyq917
L119[13:53:51] <raptop> (One of the standard Greek layouts is basically QWERTY!)
L120[14:03:41] <SporkWitch> i'm very confused right now. only change to my spaceplane was switching from the FAT455 wings and tailfins to the Big-S ones, and it has MUCH less control authority
L121[14:07:17] <NGC3982> i just understood that name.
L122[14:15:30] <umaxtu> I'm using a planck keyboard. so I don't have a compose key.
L123[14:16:24] <umaxtu> probably can add one with some fimrware tweaks but I haven't gotten around to it
L124[14:21:50] <SporkWitch> umaxtu: does it not follow standard HID protocols? Most stuff works by simply replacing the behaviour of a key with that of compose; i generally use caps lock, since there's pretty much never a reason to use caps lock (and through the same software, I can set it so hitting both shift keys together behaves as caps lock normally would)
L125[14:27:01] <umaxtu> yeah. but I've only got 47 keys to work with
L126[14:28:39] <umaxtu> did see a comment on a reddit thread that suggested using holding down the spacebar as a compose key
L127[14:43:38] <raptop> only 47 keys? cursed cursed cursed
L128[14:49:47] <Althego> legit caps lock use: you want to write fortran that looks good :9
L129[14:50:10] <SporkWitch> legit mental issues: you want to write fortran lol
L130[14:50:40] <Althego> it is alive and well
L131[14:50:45] <Althego> not to mention lot of legacy code
L132[14:50:58] <SporkWitch> didn't say otherwise lol
L133[15:04:44] <Althego> i got the suspected negative result
L134[15:06:07] <SporkWitch> well, new spaceplane got orbit with around 1.8km/s dV left over and maintain control throughout. little trouble at initial takeoff, but makes it up to speed and lift takes over
L135[15:06:24] <SporkWitch> now to rescue two kerbals and see if it lands... lol
L136[15:06:39] <Althego> hehe
L137[15:06:50] <Althego> the landing can be hard with the com movement
L138[15:07:07] <SporkWitch> i was careful with the CoM heh
L139[15:07:23] <SporkWitch> i'm also using nuclear hybrid engines, so only use fuel once i'm out of enough air
L140[15:07:42] <SporkWitch> makes for less shift
L141[15:08:22] <SporkWitch> the mk4 parts also have room for fuel storage inside them, making it much easier to minimize the shift in weight, since it starts off fairly well distributed
L142[15:10:04] <SporkWitch> grrrr, annoyingly the two kerbals i need to rescue are on almost the same orbit, so no efficient rendesvous sequence. gonna have to get altitude, dive in to get one, go back up, and grab the other lol
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L144[15:42:49] <packbart> they tend to do that in low orbit
L145[15:43:14] <Althego> yes, sometimes i collect 3 that way
L146[15:43:26] <packbart> hence the optimization by darsie et.al. to only fly-by with a probe, then let the Kerbals find their own ride home
L147[15:50:54] <darsie> I call my probe 'wakeup'.
L148[15:52:14] <darsie> Only takes little dv for an encounter, then they can do https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Jetpack_deorbit .
L149[15:54:21] <darsie> I have a rocket in polar Mun orbit to fly over stranded Kerbals on the surface. Then they jetpack to orbit, enter the capsule to refuel their jetpack, jetpack to LKO, refuel again at the station, and jetpack deorbit. :)
L150[15:54:58] <darsie> It's hard to jetpack from Mun surface to orbit.
L151[15:55:10] <darsie> Gotta fly shallow and head first.
L152[15:56:51] <SporkWitch> i lucked out with my launch, only raised my ap to 150 and it gave me a 1km encounter in 1 hour. about to try the same for the next one, that's slightly behind in the orbit. should be able to just dip back down in a couple orbits, pick him up, then deorbit. then we find out if i added enough speedbrakes to land this thing lol
L153[15:57:44] <SporkWitch> here's hoping the second didn't spawn in a hatch-less container like the one yesterday lol
L154[15:58:42] <SporkWitch> (a bunch of MKS parts have a crew capacity of 1, because of how its habitation mechanics work, so that by being more "spacious" it increases hab time, but they don't have hatches so you can't get in or out unless it's connected to something that does have a hatch lol)
L155[16:11:27] <SporkWitch> noice, managed an encounter in just 35 minutes for the second one :)
L156[16:11:37] <SporkWitch> guess i lucked out with their orbits after all lol
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L159[16:20:30] <packbart> there's a mod for that. "KSP Rescue Pod Fix" allows only whitlisted parts for rescue contracts
L160[16:20:40] <SporkWitch> packbart: thanks for the tip!
L161[16:20:52] <SporkWitch> and lucked out, second kerbal was also in a part with a hatch
L162[16:21:08] <packbart> it's a common problem with SSPXr parts, too. some of the station parts can hold kerbals but don't have a hatch
L163[16:21:22] <SporkWitch> packbart: any advice on setup for the mobile workshop? tried 8 ruggedized wheels, but holy crap does it move and turn slow...
L164[16:23:22] <packbart> nah, I use the 8 ruggedized, too. and sometimes add small rockets to get it over the hills ;)
L165[16:24:12] <packbart> my base variant is similar to https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspc.jpg - ISRU converter and drill, a fuel cell array and something to klaw into the base (the extensible tunnels from SSPXr work well, too)
L166[16:24:44] <SporkWitch> that wheel setup is identical to how i did mine heh
L167[16:25:10] <packbart> it makes journeys courtesy of BonVoyage, I only need to adjust its final position with manual controls
L168[16:25:32] <SporkWitch> i keep forgetting to install that; how in the hell is bonvoyage not stock functionality, given how rover wheels are realistically slow? lol
L169[16:25:55] <SporkWitch> do you find it's sufficiently heavy to roll around on minmus?
L170[16:27:10] <packbart> hm. ah, that variant has two rows of RCS thrusters on top and I enable "rover stability" in MechJeb ;)
L171[16:27:22] <SporkWitch> ah, i don't use mechjeb heh
L172[16:27:37] <packbart> the stability assist tries to orient the rover parallel to the surface at all times
L173[16:27:55] <SporkWitch> might have to look into it if it has a sane rover control preset, though it feels like overkill for such simple functionality
L174[16:28:33] <SporkWitch> wish you could set RCS to SAS-only, as well, like you can reaction wheels
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L181[17:26:48] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr5eccZdIyk
L182[17:30:02] <darsie> .
L183[17:33:45] <Mat2ch> watching watching
L184[17:37:08] <SporkWitch> so the airbrakes are definitely helping, though for some reason i cannot figure out, two of them aren't deploying...
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L187[18:09:05] <SporkWitch> well, i'm down to 10km and below 400m/s, seem to have good control authority still, now to just fly it to the runway and see if i can actually land... lol
L188[18:18:19] <SporkWitch> (stupid customers making me pause every 2 minutes lol)
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L191[18:33:08] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: soooo, playing while working, yes? :D
L192[18:33:41] <SporkWitch> sure, if i'm idle
L193[18:33:49] <Mat2ch> :D
L194[18:34:03] <Mat2ch> Problem for me is: I don't make any money if I'm not working.
L195[18:34:08] <Mat2ch> sooooo
L196[18:34:23] <Mat2ch> I play games as well sometimes. Screw the money, I need some fun
L197[18:34:28] <SporkWitch> the one benefit of being hourly
L198[18:34:51] <SporkWitch> they don't pay me enough to look for extra work; if i was salary things would be different
L199[18:35:18] <Mat2ch> you could take another full time job, like some others in the US are doing and, uh, do that :D
L200[18:35:54] <Mat2ch> There are people in the US having three fulltime jobs, juggeling them around, the companies don't know about it and they get three salaries...
L201[18:36:04] <SporkWitch> i believe it
L202[18:36:57] <Mat2ch> it's easy to get into a company like HP or IBM, be some developer, do 3-4 hours of coding a day, sometimes even less, but nobody will ask
L203[18:38:26] <Mat2ch> and since you have two other jobs you can afford to lose a job...
L204[18:41:29] <Mat2ch> The Astra launch is continuing!
L205[18:43:49] <packbart> !nela
L206[18:43:50] <Kerbot> packbart => Rocket 3 - VCLS Demo-2 - Mon Feb 07, 2022 18:00:00 UTC (L+00:42:57) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/vcls-demo-2a for info/stream
L207[18:44:53] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr5eccZdIyk
L208[18:45:09] <Mat2ch> T-5 min
L209[18:45:57] <Mat2ch> I was tempted to fire up KSP today and use some MK4 parts to build an SSTO...
L210[18:46:04] <packbart> "Hold my beer" means "Abort". I see
L211[18:47:19] <packbart> "switch over your grafana sources" - shiny dashboards
L212[18:47:25] <SporkWitch> Mat2ch: mine's doing good so far. will find out shortly if it can land heh
L213[18:49:59] <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/940318464147611718/Screenshot_20220207_134845.png
L214[18:50:19] <Mat2ch> abort
L215[18:50:20] <SporkWitch> have a nuclear reactor hiding inside for power. the radiators like to have heat bars, but it's actually stable without melting
L216[18:50:25] <Mat2ch> probably it for today then.
L217[18:50:37] <Mat2ch> Phat boy :D
L218[18:50:55] <SporkWitch> I also put an antenna on the crew section's top hatch, to force them to use the internal one, which i have connected to ladders that can reach the floor of the cargo bay or the ground
L219[18:52:15] <Mat2ch> Why do they have to get out to use the antenna?
L220[18:52:40] <SporkWitch> they don't. i used it to obstruct the top hatch so they wouldn't use it.
L221[18:53:03] <SporkWitch> i want them exiting the crew module in the cargo bay, not the dorsal exterior
L222[19:10:10] <SporkWitch> came up about 150km short, having to slow cruise through the lower atmosphere. i could speed it along by turning it into a suborbital hop, but i don't want to pick up speed i'll have to shed again and overshoot lol
L223[19:16:25] <Judge_Dedd> <UmbralRaptop> If you're somehow emitting solar luminosity in one direction, your thrust is 1.28 EN <-- what's "EN"?
L224[19:17:19] <raptop> Exanewton
L225[19:17:32] <Althego> lol
L226[19:17:40] <Judge_Dedd> Also, my understanding is that a solar sail doesn't ride photons. Am I wrong? Solar wind isn't just light
L227[19:17:43] <Althego> holo Exa Newton
L228[19:18:07] <raptop> Althego: ...am I a vtuber now?
L229[19:18:16] * raptop apparently really needs to up my JP skills
L230[19:18:49] <raptop> Judge_Dedd: Depends on the design, but my understanding is that most designs are mostly running under photon pressure
L231[19:19:19] <Althego> so is the solar wind that small?
L232[19:19:45] <Judge_Dedd> Huh. I was sure there was more to it than that
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L234[19:20:49] <Althego> wiki says the solar wind pressure is negligible if you compare it to the radiation pressure
L235[19:21:08] <Althego> nanoPascal vs microPascal
L236[19:24:09] <Judge_Dedd> Everything I see on solar sails says it's the photons
L237[19:24:39] <Judge_Dedd> So can someone help me grasp what 1.28 EN is?
L238[19:24:53] <Judge_Dedd> exanewtons, but what's an exanewton?
L239[19:25:07] <Judge_Dedd> I mean, I san see the maths, but I can't visualise it
L240[19:25:18] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: can't you just click on the hatch where they should use?
L241[19:26:18] <SporkWitch> no? O.o i'll test when i get to the ground
L242[19:26:25] <raptop> 1.28 EN is 1.28e18 Newtons. Which is a lot o force, but you'll get vaporized first
L243[19:26:32] <raptop> *a lot of force
L244[19:27:30] <raptop> I mean, you could probably get 1 m/s^2 levels of acceleration on a decently large asteroid if you ignore the whole thermal thing
L245[19:29:09] <Judge_Dedd> So making a solar laser actually has a useful application that I can use to deflect attention from my real motives?
L246[19:29:25] <raptop> Yes
L247[19:29:40] <Althego> hehe
L248[19:31:51] <SporkWitch> i'm maintaining about 275m/s at ~15% thrust and it still wants to gain altitude while flying level heh
L249[19:32:08] <SporkWitch> as long as i can actually land this once i get to the runway, i think i've got a really good design here
L250[19:32:43] <Judge_Dedd> SporkWitch, cool! Got any pics you can share?
L251[19:32:52] <SporkWitch> should be perfect for ferrying supplies and such up to my 250km kerbin station, and from there i can manufacture proper starliners for interplanetary stuff
L252[19:33:04] <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/940318464147611718/Screenshot_20220207_134845.png
L253[19:33:25] <Judge_Dedd> Huh, I was expecting a lot of engines
L254[19:33:40] <Judge_Dedd> Ah yeah, it's not stock :)
L255[19:33:46] <SporkWitch> VERY not stock lol
L256[19:33:50] <Judge_Dedd> What engines are those?
L257[19:34:20] <Judge_Dedd> I do like a nice streamlined, compact design. Nicely done
L258[19:34:57] <SporkWitch> they're the nuclear hybrid engines. use arbitrary atmosphere as reaction mass until you can't feed them enough, then they can be toggled to use liquid fuel; think a rapier, but instead of the toggle being oxidizer or not, it's toggling fuel or not
L259[19:35:14] <Judge_Dedd> Ooh.
L260[19:35:27] <SporkWitch> i tried making a mk2 first, but scaling them down they aren't nearly as effective. at this scale (their default 2.5m) they work wonderfully
L261[19:35:44] <SporkWitch> takes them a bit to spool up, but once they get going they put out a lot of oomph.
L262[19:35:58] <Judge_Dedd> KSP really lacks 2.5m spaceplane engines
L263[19:36:24] <SporkWitch> that picture is misleading on size. those engines are 2.5m each, the tailfins are Big-S default size, and the wings are Big-S wings scaled up once
L264[19:36:59] <SporkWitch> main hull is mk4 from KSPI. single mid-size cargo bay, crew cabin, short fueselage, and the tail adapter.
L265[19:37:13] <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/940329466520031253/unknown.png
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L267[19:38:09] <Judge_Dedd> I mean, even so, your design looks like something that might actually be built someday, and I like that
L268[19:38:10] <SporkWitch> that's inside the cargo bay. you can see the interior portion of the crew cabin (which also extends the cargo a bit, but doesn't have a bay door). I attached a battery, reaction wheel, and nuclear reactor to the wall to provide power. Overkill, but nice to not have to worry about things, and leave room to expand with power-hungry stuff later
L269[19:38:22] <SporkWitch> i tend to try for it; i'm not good at making crazy designs lol
L270[19:38:45] <SporkWitch> i'm also using FAR; i lose my mind with stock aerodynamics thanks to 30 years of realistic flight sims lol
L271[19:39:12] <Judge_Dedd> Crazy designs have their place. I made a fully functioning Borg Cube... but I prefer nice-looking stuff :)
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L273[19:39:32] <SporkWitch> i make a distinction between replica pieces and legit "i came up with something crazy" lol
L274[19:39:55] <Judge_Dedd> I wonder if my Borg cube design still works... all the engines were internal
L275[19:53:31] <SporkWitch> still haven't gotten to find out if this thing can land or not... i hate mondays, no downtime lol
L276[19:53:51] <SporkWitch> i've only even gotten ONE ticket that's actually even my job to handle, the rest have been improprer escalations that i'm forced to work anyway
L277[19:54:47] <SporkWitch> off the top of your head, what's the orientation of the desert runway?
L278[19:55:29] <Althego> i think w-e
L279[20:05:19] <SporkWitch> so close the runway but struggling to line up a proper approach >_< lol
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L289[20:13:17] <SporkWitch> i am on the ground... it instantly skid sideways, but i kept it from rolling over lol
L290[20:13:37] <SporkWitch> (literally slid to a stop sliding 90° to my facing direction lol)
L291[20:14:08] <Althego> hehe
L292[20:14:23] <SporkWitch> i'm gonna try to taxi over to the runway so i get 100% refund lol
L293[20:15:18] <SporkWitch> something is definitely screwy with two of the airbrakes, they didn't deploy when brakes were applied, now i'm on the ground and they're deployed... lol
L294[20:15:29] <a_flayer> i'd put some balancers fuel tanks on the tip of the wings and add some landing gear on that
L295[20:15:55] <a_flayer> no more worries about tipping over
L296[20:16:21] <SporkWitch> it wouldn't flip over if it didn't randomly sideslip for no reason lol
L297[20:16:50] <SporkWitch> and i can't turn while taxiing, because it doesn't have any steering on large landing gear >_<
L298[20:22:58] <SporkWitch> the trick is apparently: "phsyics warp to 4x, full brakes, and throttle up so the engine gimbals slowly rotate you" >_< lol
L299[20:26:27] <SporkWitch> Mat2ch: good to know; if i click on the hatch itself, then transfer crew, then EVA, it will try to use that hatch (and tell me it's obstructed if it is). Clicking EVA on the portrait always tries to use the same hatches in sequence, skipping only if obstructed.
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L301[20:32:03] <Judge_Dedd> SporkWitch, does it by any chance go off to the side on take-off as well, if you don't touch the controls?
L302[20:32:26] <SporkWitch> slight drift, but only what i've come to expect from KSP. things rotate when stationary lol
L303[20:32:38] <SporkWitch> it's built fully symmetrically
L304[20:33:03] <Judge_Dedd> Sounds like you might have the brakes set up a little wrong
L305[20:33:51] <SporkWitch> nope; brakes are on defaults. the rear gear are symmetry linked, front was copied from them with symmetry disabled (so it doesn't do the whole placing-two-inside-each-other thing)
L306[20:33:58] <Judge_Dedd> Try increasing brake power to the rear wheels and decreasing it from the front wheel. Yes, I know that's not the way you would want to do it in real life.
L307[20:34:41] <SporkWitch> worth a shot; set the rear to 75% and front to 25%; we'll see what happens next time.
L308[20:34:55] <Judge_Dedd> For the sake of experimentation, you might try turning the brakes completely off for the front wheel, just while testing.
L309[20:35:55] <SporkWitch> might look into realchute as well; apparently it adds proper drogue chutes, and not automatically cutting the chute when you touch ground, so you can use them to slow down
L310[20:37:06] <Judge_Dedd> I'm pretty sure that's possible with Stock as well, if you deploy them after touchdown
L311[20:39:10] <SporkWitch> i wish KVV's exploded view had options to explode all parts, not just chunks separated by dcouplers :(
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L313[20:50:41] <SporkWitch> packbart: the workshop picture you sent, what are those two things on the back? I recognize the drill and fuel cell array, but the other two things
L314[20:56:13] <SporkWitch> raptop UmbralRaptop: did you send Jennifer to visit me? lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/940350237044797490/unknown.png
L315[21:22:58] <raptop> That wasn't me!
L316[21:23:08] <raptop> Maybe you've been blessed by The Kraken?
L317[21:23:22] <SporkWitch> it's moving and shifting around too, it's pretty awesome lol
L318[21:23:33] <Judge_Dedd> Bats
L319[21:23:48] <raptop> Lovecraftian bats
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L324[21:28:23] <SporkWitch> raptop: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/940358293640065054/simplescreenrecorder-2022-02-07_16.26.52.mkv
L325[21:29:16] <raptop> pretty
L326[21:40:08] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: That's what I remembered :)
L327[21:41:00] <Mat2ch> simplescreenrecorder screams Linux somehow
L328[21:41:27] <Mat2ch> and it looks wow. Danny would be jealous.
L329[21:42:06] <SporkWitch> it was one of the tools offered up by the stock screenshot tool in KDE; there was also OBS but that felt like overkill, as i don't stream, just occasionally need 5-10 second clips
L330[21:42:16] <SporkWitch> literally just installed it to get that capture lol
L331[21:43:36] <Mat2ch> sss is great, yes :)
L332[21:43:46] <Mat2ch> OBS is overkill for just recording clips
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