OCLogs: 2022-01-09.log

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L12[02:32:11] <Izaya> setting the thrust limiter really low on sepratrons has somewhat helped with my complaints about getting kicked into a higher orbit /o/

L13[02:37:28] <darkie> You can also limit the amount of fuel.

L14[02:37:30] <darkie> I think

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L16[03:21:07] <Izaya> true enough, but slow burn full dV is preferable

L17[03:21:30] <Izaya> for deorbiting boosters

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L23[07:19:09] <Izaya> I need to figure out how to write a MM config to add monopropellant fuel switch options to the stack size adapter tanks, I'd be able to streamline half my spacecraft significantly if I could use the otherwise structural tanks for monoprop >.>

L24[07:26:04] <packbart> which of the many fuel switchers do you use? I'm not sure if stock variants work without changing the model

L25[07:26:45] <packbart> hm. or maybe they do now?

L26[07:27:56] <Izaya> B9PartSwitch

L27[07:34:13] <packbart> hm. so a B9_TANK_TYPE for Monoprop probably already exists. then you'd need to add SUBTYPE {} blocks to the part's ModuleB9PartSwitch block (and create that if it doesn't exist)

L28[07:38:19] <packbart> figuring out the volume may be the tricky part

L29[07:51:24] <packbart> Load faster, KSP!

L30[07:52:11] <packbart> (ok, stock KSP without mods loads in 10s. I just had to use the modded thing :)

L31[07:53:33] * packbart plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xHCZNe78FU in a loop while KSP boots

L32[07:54:02] <Izaya> I have other mods that seem to auto-calculate the stuff so it can't be too hard

L33[07:54:14] <Izaya> for LH2 and LCH4 and such

L34[07:54:31] <Izaya> (or if not auto-calculate then use existing values, \o/)

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L36[07:58:15] <packbart> ah, right. if there already is a ModuleB9PartSwitch in the part, you'd only need to add a SUBTYPE { tankType = MonoPropellant }, I guess. the baseVolume should already be set

L37[08:02:17] <packbart> a quick test (without existing tank switch): https://i.imgur.com/TbiOHBF.jpg / https://pastebin.com/txrVwxg5

L38[08:03:59] <Izaya> seems simple enough

L39[08:05:29] <packbart> if the switch already exists, you can remove most of that: https://pastebin.com/jsBY8CXi (untested)

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L49[11:11:20] <darkie> .

L50[11:12:35] <flayer> hey

L51[11:19:17] <Rolf> ;missiom

L52[11:19:21] <Rolf> ;mission

L53[11:19:21] <LunchBot> Rolf: You arrange a date between Kountdown and Cortana. This all ends with Kicks and Mutes.

L54[11:19:33] <Rolf> heck of a chaos lol

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L56[11:22:50] * flayer slaps sandbox

L57[11:23:01] <sandbox> :(

L58[11:23:11] <flayer> its an affectionate slap

L59[11:23:28] * sandbox slaps back

L60[11:23:33] <flayer> <3

L61[11:28:39] * flayer stretches

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L63[11:49:57] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: wait until you see what Danny does...

L64[11:57:31] <bees> Rolf: Jeb divides by zero. You are having a bad problem and will not go to space today.

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L67[13:40:58] <Mat2ch> !mission

L68[13:40:58] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You try to go to orbit with nothing but solid rockets. The robots just look at you like you're an idiot.

L69[13:42:59] <Althego> what robots?

L70[13:47:16] <bees> Althego: Goliath National Products has contracted you to develop the world's first orbit-capable, man-rated, slingshot launcher! You are swarmed by drones, but unfortunately they are from Google and come to consume your soul.

L71[14:33:27] <SporkWitch> Mat2ch: meow?

L72[14:38:17] * darkie tries to go to orbit with just solids. Thumper+Flea

L73[14:42:30] <SporkWitch> darkie: see the video i linked earlier? someone managed a stable orbit using only air-breathing jet engines

L74[14:42:46] <bees> darkie: You tire of rockets, and decide to launch things into orbit with a giant gun. Fortunately, Kerbals are expendable.

L75[14:43:38] <darkie> 30 km Pe.

L76[14:43:50] <darkie> SporkWitch: Yes, I already knew it.

L77[14:44:34] <darkie> missing 36 m/s

L78[14:45:40] <SporkWitch> MOAR BOOSTERS

L79[14:45:52] <darkie> :)

L80[14:45:55] <darkie> Or less payload

L81[14:46:05] <SporkWitch> or both :P

L82[14:47:02] <darkie> A skinnier Kerbal? :)

L83[14:48:42] <SporkWitch> neat history of our discovery / understanding of radiation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_CtD2UnAc

L84[15:07:58] <darkie> Does it have to be outside the atmosphere to be in orbit? :)

L85[15:08:13] <darkie> Or just go around more than once? :)

L86[15:09:07] <SporkWitch> to be a stable orbit, yes. If you don't make it out of the atmosphere you've basically got a suborbital trajectory, since without continuously adding thrust you aren't staying up

L87[15:09:35] <SporkWitch> granted in the real world the line for "out of the atmosphere" is much blurrier than in KSP lol

L88[15:14:21] <darkie> Ditched 45 kg jetpack.

L89[15:22:03] <darkie> Orbit!

L90[15:38:09] <darkie> Does the use of reaction wheels to gain velocity stop it being going to orbit with only solids?

L91[15:38:38] <Mat2ch> SporkWitch: yes, that video. :D

L92[15:38:48] <Mat2ch> Shadowzone, iirc

L93[15:42:36] <darkie> Well, I made orbit, but without jetpack the Kerbal was stranded there. Could be picked up by something, though.

L94[15:45:27] <darkie> crashed

L95[15:47:00] <darkie> ofc I could use a command seat in a fairing instead of a capsule.

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L101[16:59:25] <darkie> How do I activate an RCS thruster with 'fore by throttle'?

L102[16:59:56] <flayer> action groups?

L103[17:00:13] <flayer> there's a bunch of extra things listed nowadays

L104[17:00:21] <SporkWitch> action groups might do it, there are also mods that let you map RCS to throttle

L105[17:00:22] <darkie> Not with the throttle/

L106[17:00:25] <darkie> ?

L107[17:01:19] <darkie> https://i.postimg.cc/Nsw-Jhshs/screenshot510.png

L108[17:04:26] <Althego> kikkerikii

L109[17:06:22] <packbart> darkie: that thruster doesn't look like it can thrust "forward"

L110[17:06:37] <darkie> mhm

L111[17:07:13] <darkie> I'll tilt it ...

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L115[18:14:12] <SporkWitch> darkie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhdrCxin7A0

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L117[18:26:46] <darkie> Wow, Moon, not Mun.

L118[18:26:48] <darkie> :)

L119[18:26:53] <darkie> That's some dedication.

L120[18:27:15] <darkie> Jeb reentered with the RCS thruster after going to orbit on solids only.

L121[18:27:42] <darkie> It found a nice place in the Flea skirt.

L122[18:28:46] <darkie> shroud*

L123[18:43:15] <darkie> Bring a Blueberries on Duna back to Kerbin: https://i.postimg.cc/zJJM3wXm/screenshot515.png

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L125[19:42:56] <Mat2ch> Uhm, they grow on Duna?

L126[19:43:20] <Althego> certainly on mars

L127[19:43:30] <Althego> so i guess that is where they got the ida from

L128[19:43:44] <Althego> they are somewhat bluish spherules

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