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L2[00:19:37] <raptop> ;mission impact factor
L3[00:19:37] <LunchBot> raptop: No mission found matching "impact factor".
L4[00:19:42] <raptop> hrm
L5[00:20:09] <raptop> ;outcome impact factor
L6[00:20:09] <LunchBot> raptop: Your confusion of impact factor with impact parameter results in the destruction of several Elsevier and Springer offices.
L7[00:24:21] <XXCoder> ;mission
L8[00:24:21] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You attempt to pick a gimbal lock. Sie Kraken ist nicht zufrieden mit.
L9[00:24:35] <XXCoder> picking an concept yeah no wonder
L10[00:25:28] <raptop> It was an attempt at silliness with the word "lock"
L11[00:25:40] <XXCoder> indeed heh
L12[00:25:44] <raptop> ;mission chaff
L13[00:25:44] <LunchBot> raptop: You fire off large amounts of chaff and flares in an attempt to escape a gimbal lock.
L14[00:25:50] <raptop> compare: ^
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L20[01:40:35] * darsie sends a Klaw Jr. to retrieve the Duna probe.
L21[01:40:52] <darsie> from LKO.
L22[01:47:10] <Izaya> I have a KSP update, is this just linux steam being odd or is there really something after 1.12.2? Didn't see anything on the news page.
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L26[01:56:25] <raptop> Izaya: minor update, notably fixes to some robotic part behavior
L27[01:56:38] <raptop> (so I think base game, but the fixes are mostly relevant to breaking ground?)
L28[01:57:40] <Izaya> ah I see
L29[01:57:44] <Izaya> does that make it 1.12.3?
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L32[02:01:57] <raptop> Yeah, it does
L33[02:02:10] <raptop> hrm, my /topic update was probably too subtle
L34[02:02:26] <Izaya> Oh, missed that entirely, sorry
L35[02:02:36] <Izaya> Also, damn, my KSP version and Minecraft version are no longer synchronised then
L36[02:04:31] <umaxtu> thats an older minecraft version
L37[02:05:01] <raptop> Isn't minecraft at 2.x or something?
L38[02:05:15] <umaxtu> 1.18.1 I think.
L39[02:05:23] <raptop> huh
L40[02:05:27] <umaxtu> but they've reset the version count a couple of times
L41[02:06:00] <X> There are robotic
L42[02:06:14] <X> Parents in KSP
L43[02:06:16] <X> Right now?
L44[02:06:25] <X> Sorry, my keys are off my fingers.
L45[02:09:16] <Izaya> The mods I use are only updated to 1.12
L46[02:09:18] <Izaya> (.2)
L47[02:10:24] <raptop> X: there have been mods with them for ages (infernal robotics I think?), and more recently with the Breaking Ground DLC
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L50[02:23:06] <darsie> All right, looks like I explored Duna enough. Got a Dres mission.
L51[02:23:46] <darsie> Hehe, explore the Sun :).
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L53[02:24:38] <darsie> Sure, why not, put a satellite in Sun-Kerbin-L1 :).
L54[02:26:51] <darsie> Some Eve and Gilly missions, still.
L55[02:36:53] <raptop> uh
L56[02:36:59] <raptop> Is this a mission in Principia?
L57[02:39:10] <darsie> Nah, just dock two vessles in Sun orbit.
L58[02:39:46] <raptop> ah
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L85[06:06:49] <Izaya> This feels like cheating, but man is it nice. https://shadowkat.net/tmp/5Con.jpg
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L87[06:08:35] <packbart> what's the cheating part?
L88[06:09:06] <packbart> isn't capture-to-rendezvous the way to go?
L89[06:09:28] <Izaya> It certainly seems to be! It's much easier than my usual orbit-orbit transfer method :D
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L92[06:14:10] <packbart> even MechJeb can do it. sometimes it needs a bit nudging, though, or else it would set a collision course to the surface
L93[06:14:40] * packbart sings "Everything MechJeb can do, you can do better"
L94[06:15:44] <Izaya> no mechjeb here, just kOS
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L96[06:28:16] <packbart> yeah, I sometimes like to use MJ for missions that need multiple maneuvers/rendezvous, like ground base assembly on a moon.
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L103[08:50:47] <Izaya> I enjoy the rendevous part; I mostly use kOS to automate node execution
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L106[10:01:08] <goblin> this ladder design is impossible... turns out the Pegasus I can be placed upside down
L107[10:01:31] <goblin> Kerbals then turn upside down in the middle of walking a ladder
L108[10:01:51] <Althego> lol
L109[10:02:13] <Althego> never noticed that
L110[10:02:15] <goblin> also appears the right combination of attaching ladders can create massive ejection forces capable of destroying at least solar panels
L111[10:02:19] <Althego> the extending ladders dont do that
L112[10:02:37] <Althego> can you still fly with a ladder?
L113[10:03:25] <goblin> Althego, hm, what do you mean?
L114[10:04:12] <Althego> it used to be so, if you put something above the ladder so that the kerbal couldnt climb higher, then when trying to climb, a phantom force was created on the kerbal's head, and that lifted the whole craft
L115[10:04:59] <goblin> hm. Not sure then ;-)
L116[10:05:45] <goblin> on the flip side, it appears Kerbals can turn left/right on ladders, sometimes being able to seamlessly walk from one ladder to another, perpendicular one
L117[10:06:07] <Althego> i never tried branching ladders
L118[10:09:18] <goblin> but sometimes they get teleported to the other end of a ladder (talking about the one on science lab). And sometimes they just fall off
L119[10:10:01] <FLHerne> Yeah, I've done the upside-down ladder thing
L120[10:10:30] <FLHerne> they can be very finicky to get right
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L122[10:25:19] <Althego> the ladder flying doesnt seem to work anymore
L123[10:25:53] <Althego> i just tried it
L124[10:29:10] <goblin> perhaps the force only works on the kerbal now
L125[10:29:17] <goblin> try launching the kerbal so it hits the ship ;-)
L126[10:31:29] <Althego> but the docking port drive probably still works
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L128[11:13:32] <goblin> Newton would not approve this
L129[11:16:05] <Althego> there is even a wiki page for it lol https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Docking_Port_Drive
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L132[11:32:45] <flayer> ugh, my phone stopped working
L133[11:33:12] <darsie> No more spying.
L134[11:33:39] <darsie> Fortunately it's not yet illegal for your phone to stop working.
L135[11:34:01] <Althego> but it is illegal for you to fix it :)
L136[11:34:33] <darsie> OTOH, in some places contact tracing may be mandatory.
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L138[12:42:00] <FLHerne> ;outcome add Nothing more hard exists in the universe.
L139[12:42:00] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added outcome: Nothing more hard exists in the universe.
L140[12:46:46] <bees> FLHerne: You force a game engine that was intended for casual iOS games to run a space sim. That wasn't supposed to explode.
L141[12:47:50] <Izaya> Oh that's fascinating. Accidentally left "Infinite Propellant" on after testing a design and it made my spaceplane flip around during launch
L142[12:47:59] <Izaya> Guess the weight distribution changing makes a lot of difference.
L143[12:51:54] <bees> Izaya: You outsource the assembly of your rockets to the General Products Corporation. Jebediah saves the day, but is annoyed at having to deplete his booster stash.
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L149[13:47:25] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/YF3h.jpg
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L151[14:07:56] <FLHerne> bees: You don't really need to send these, the bot does it on-demand :p
L152[14:08:48] <bees> FLHerne: You create a space station in the shape of a giant green eyeball. This time it isn't as bad as when you tried it with the lemons.
L153[14:09:56] <FLHerne> Has bees been replaced by a bot that replies to everyone with missions?
L154[14:10:20] <FLHerne> Lemon eyeball station does sound unpleasant
L155[14:10:21] <Althego> hehe
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L159[17:18:55] <umaxtu> FLHerne: maybe we've corrupted him, and he has been sent to siberia
L160[17:22:36] <bees> umaxtu: You decide to determine whether ClF3 or FOOF is the better oxidizer. This does not confirm Half-Life 3. Quite the opposite, in fact.
L161[17:23:29] <Althego> both eradicate everything so, including software developers
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L164[17:24:27] <umaxtu> FOOF sounds cuter though
L165[17:24:48] <Althego> o2f2
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L174[18:03:33] <darsie> O2F2
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L178[18:21:01] <Althego> ;mission
L179[18:21:01] <LunchBot> Althego: You realise you have been playing KSP for 24 hours straight. The neutrino burst alone is lethal.
L180[18:21:08] <Althego> hehe my favorite
L181[18:21:10] <Althego> the outcome
L182[18:22:10] <sandbox> has anyone here actually played KSP for 24 hours straight?
L183[18:22:36] <Althego> i am pretty sure i went up to 16
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L186[18:27:17] <bees> Althego: In a fit of hunger, you attempt to eat a porkchop plot. Dinosaur invasion begins.
L187[18:29:19] <raptop> Correct, and we will start by devouring the mammals
L188[18:30:51] <Althego> maybe they attack the porkchop plots instead
L189[19:03:56] <raptop> That reminds me, I should probably mess around with GMAT someday
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L199[20:24:55] <raptop> Is part-clipping still heretical?
L200[20:25:18] <bees> raptop: You experiment with dozens of small engines on your craft, EVE online style. You are pulled over by the Physics police.
L201[20:26:32] * raptop feels like bees is using ;mission as a way to generically respond to people
L202[20:28:00] <bees> raptop: You begin another ;mission. Fortunately, Kerbals are expendable.
L203[20:28:09] <Althego> hehe
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L206[22:10:01] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEEmnC3XPd4
L207[22:10:11] <Mat2ch> DART launch!
L208[22:12:10] <Mat2ch> That is a fake Space X channel, which is verified. Wowo
L209[22:18:25] <raptop> o_O
L210[22:22:32] <darsie> SpaceX, Space X
L211[22:22:39] <darsie> It's different :).
L212[22:22:49] <sandbox> Space Y
L213[22:23:02] <darsie> Kevin Space Y
L214[22:23:34] <raptop> Obviously you should watch the launches on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/clearusui
L215[22:23:53] <darsie> :)
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